Will Werner be a success at Spurs?
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2024
- A Premier League return for Timo Werner is now looking very likely, but this time the German international has his eyes set on North London and Ange Postecoglou’s Tottenham Hotspur. After a disappointing stint at Chelsea, will Werner’s bad form follow over at White Hart Lane? Or could this be the second coming of ’Turbo Tim’?
With the January transfer window now in full swing, Spurs are looking to strengthen their attacking options, especially with their current injury list. Plus the likes of club captain, Son Heung-min and in form Yves Bissouma leaving for international duty. Can Timo be the answer to Postecoglou’s prayers?
Adam Leventhal is joined by Liam Twomey, Jack Pitt-Brooke and Seb Stafford-Bloor.
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This loan is more about Ange, than Timo. Ange so far has gotten more out of the same players in a hard working style. Timo is a classic example of a player Ange can get the best out of. Timo currently is not starting or playing much in Germany.
We will see, won't we.
Yeah agreed. If ange can kind random J-league players and turn them into diamonds, I trust he can take a 7/10 player and turn him into a 10/10. Ange is easy to trust, but shows he deserves it
@@jord.an6123in the Scottish league!!
Did it alot with some aussies when managing socceroos and probably got rogic's best season out of him during his last year at celtic.
@@jord.an6123 dunno abou 10 lol
Seb has become the final form of football hipster
If he's a spurs fan we don't claim him with that clobber
He's barely a football fan. Wants to talk about anything but the game
@@TheflamingPThat's a pure hipster move
Read this before he appeared on camera and absolutely lost it when he did. Thank you
Sebs always wrapped in his finest fiberz
Nice if he works, cheap if he doesn't. Not a groundbreaking move, but good business by Tottenham. "Low risk" is the perfect way to put it. Best case situation, low risk high reward. Worst case scenario, low risk, no reward.
If it do t work it becomes a waste of salary and 5 months lost and possibly a finish in the top4 lost…let’s hope not coyx
@@johnbuey3931 5 months lost? hows that work?
@@aaronbreeds758 5 months lost for Werner, who wants to get into the germany squad for the euros
Having watched the Spurs V Man United game I immediately noticed that Werner got himself in the place to shoot at goal or distribute to others in a better position but he immediately dithered. Now this his first game and he has not had the hard training that is developing the instinctive passing to players in better space. He seemed to freeze in the game so he will need to be worked hard on being competent and confident playing Ange’s style.
Simply put, I reckon Werner is in Ange’s plans because:
1) their need for depth in the final third. Even when Kane was at Spurs, without him, they were light in this department.
2) the shared (or at least similar) attritutes with Kyogo Furuhashi whom he personally brought in at Celtic. Speed, awareness of space. Ange tends to prefer the raumdeuter CF rather than a complete centre forward in his 4-2-3-1 formation.
If Seb’s on, I’m in
😂 If tottenham are the repair shop then man united are top gear , buying expensive things and innevatably breaking them.
The thing is. Werner isn't coming to Spurs to keep us up or save our season. He has come to aid us in an area that be could prove to be the missing cog. The deal is a great one for Spurs because its a loan and he has a point to prove without any real pressure to prove it. I personally think he will ensure we improve or goals to attempts ratio. Despite what his recent stats might show.
Timo Werner was quite good for Chelsea ( thanks for mentioning the offsides he was sooo hard done by some ridiculous calls ) He scored some important goals for us, always played his heart out and fought for the badge. And he won the CL with us. I think he will be quite good for Spurs
We've seen many bright, young players enter the promised land of Chelsea and become swallowed up, mis-used and completely demoralised. Of all our cursed no.9s, only Morata and Lukaku have regained the kind of form that made us sign them in the first place, and for Morata, it's taken years. It takes someone of considerable character to pull their career back after Chelsea. We seem to dish out a special kind of trauma. I hope Timo succeeds.
Sons problem is he can not break down low block teams. He does run inbto space extremely well when the defender is behind and chasing. Werner offers the ability to dribble past multiple defenders, which would stretch the team for others like son to capitalise.
Missed hearing seb so much 😢
Ange didn't sign him because of his stint at chelsea.
He signed werner looking at the player who was at RB leipzig before he came to chelsea.
With the right system, any player, I repeat any player regardless of his history with any club regardless of the players performance over there, he can become a world best.
MARK THIS SOMEWHERE, we have seen this multiple times with a lot of players, Lukaku at chelsea and lukaku at inter milan for example
No, not any player, otherwise I’m just waiting for the right manager to turn me into a world class player. If you reckon it can, name the system which turns McTonimay into a world class player and no scoring a few goals for Scotland does not make you that.
tbh Ange probably DID sign him for the player he was at chelsea. Like they said, creating space and stretching out the opposition just by your mere presence is PERFECT for Ange’s system
he signed him because Spurs have limited funds and need a body in to cover the absence of son. This isn't some exercise in precise scouting, it's finding a player who Leipzig are desperate to get rid of because he's bloody useless in front of goal
History tells us Chelsea FLOPS become world class/flourish when they leave the club.
Does it works at the second club after he left his flopped club? Cos he didn’t do too much in Germany.
@@zhilong will soon find out
They brought up the stats ... 95/159 pre Chelsea then 23/89 at Chelsea ... but I also heard somewhere at Chelsea he had 16 disallowed for offside but in that regard, some Chelsea fans have noted some of these were down to their midfield delaying passes ... and of course there were a few sitters missed ... but with that, EVERY striker misses sitters, even Harry K and Sonny have and still do ... and so does Richarlison unfortunately ... the thing about strikers is they need the ability to convert to be considered good or great but before any of that, the absolutely vital talent they must have is to be in a goal scoring position to begin with ... before Chelsea, he was on fire ... being at Chelsea, in all honesty, he wasn't too bad but it could / should have been a whole heap better and it trashed his confidence (but there were a lot of players who had come in for big money to Chelsea around that time, who also underperformed, but for some reason, they rarely get mentioned - funny that) ... but today, he's older and with Ange's hand on his shoulder, a whole new opportunity is before him ... with Harry K for a decade we were guaranteed a goal every two or three opportunities ... there's no player around, or even on the horizon, that comes even close to that so we have to spread the goal scoring around because in the end, it's a team game and they all have to step up ... as a Spurs fan I obviously I hope he goes well and I have a sneaky feeling, if he hits the ground running, scores or assists a goal or two or three in his early games then we'll have a major hit on our hands ... if it doesn't work out then me'eh, in 6 months he goes back
Y'know what would be funny? Hilarious in fact. If Tottenham signed Gallagher and both he and Werner excelled at Spurs.
He is a super player . From a Chelsea fan
Did somebody's cat die? The most morbid sounding football related video I've ever listened to in my life.
Seb!!!
Guys, i am at full Volume on my Macbook and you're not loud enough!
I did find it interesting that all of these 'experts' [one in particular is very long winded and quite tiresome] never mentioned that Timo and Ange have crossed swords before. Timo was in the Leipzig side that played Ange's Celtic in Europe and i do think this may had some impact on Timo coming to Spurs......................The Aussie Spurs Fan..
Yes, coincidentally, he’s scored v Tottenham in the CL too! No wonder he loves our stadium and can’t wait to play there!
Timo,Son and Brenan should be a fun watch. Lot of offsides but a headache for a team with high defensive lines
Timo and richarlison are going to bond over their hate for the linesmen
At Chelsea it was clear he's an excellent attacker: movement and link up at speed, anticipation, penetration, pressing... He just can't hit a barn door. I'd predicted he wouldn't score a single goal at Chelsea prior to his move after watching Spurs vs. RB L in the Champs games. But he's very effective at creating the conditions for goals to be had. My tuppence, at least...
I get it, he is a good attacking force and also good at pressing. But can he finish it well when the team gets back the ball on final third of the pitch?
No 99% of the time
His main role will be a ball carrier up the pitch with the aim to provide assists. Scoring would be a lovely bonus but there is less pressure on him to finish chances. Once it clicks for him in Ange’s system, his confidence will allow to take more shots
Timo Werner has 18 goals in his last 54 games, do the maffs on that, that's a goal a game...innit" - Eni Aluko
He'll be a success and so will Dragusin if they avoid hamstring injuries. Over to Ange!
If we can get the ball to Werner in promising positions he's pace can only be a good thing . . .
No one knows who's choice he was for Spurs, Levy ,the tea lady or AP....you're guessing. As for Timos mindset, watch his welcome to Spurs video.. he's happy to be back in the capital, he wanted to come back to London and knows the difference between Chelscum and North London...he's happy with his role, in that he will be expected to play anywhere as required..importantly he's happy..and look at Chelsea none of there forwards can score..I think he will do well, can't be worse than Richarlison
Richarlison has no composure
Richarlison is streaky. He also seems quite fragile.
this podcast needs Joe Devine reminding Seb to talk to the microphone
and JJ Bull the Bullard saying Pedri is the best player ever because he had him on Football Manager
I'm a Manchester United fan, and have always liked Werner even when he was at Chelsea. I do not wish him luck this coming weekend though😅😁😁😁😁
further evidence then that the majority of United fans knows absolutely nothing about what makes a good player. I'm still hearing that Hojlund is a world class striker in the making
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
Of course is that even a question the guy won lot of titles and scored a lot of goals
Bentacur, Gallagher and Madisson is a greay mid 3
Yay seb😊
Werner will be fine. He's not Mudryk bad.
that's like saying "this moles nothing to worry about, it's not gangrene bad"
The triumph of hope over experience.
Look at Chelsea’s goal in the champions league final. That goal happened because Werner made a dummy run and created space for Havertz. Timo will ball out for Spurs & as a Chelsea fan i hate that they got him! Even if he’s bad , he goes back to Leipzig at the end of the loan so it’s a good move for Spurs
This has now been confirmed.
Yes big time!!!!
IF he is played in the same position as he was at Leipzig Yes. Otherwise it does not seem to work for him ..see Chelsea
Spurs haven’t spoken to Chelsea this time round I thought?
Bizarre that this exists and tifo is dead
Do more Spurs stuff please.
Werner’s been out on as a chaos agent
Spending a full episode on a timo werner loan is fuckin crazy
Let’s not forget that even Mo Salah was a flop at Chelsea. Now he can’t stop scoring goals….
Wow, an intelligent click-bait free conversation about football. It'll never catch on 😆
ITS SEB!!!
Players want to be wanted... Ange wants him and went and got him.. he starts at spurs as a wanted man... Good luck Turbo Tim...
Spurs are gonna win the league
2026 Ill be there no matter what
Stop dreaming
@@bean5618 stop crying
@@jimmyf1446 bean don’t care
@@bean5618 are you really mr bean?
South Korea will not go too deep into Asian Cup final rounds
oops.
Let’s hope he’s another salah or KDB chelsea flop
We need Werner at Chelsea !
Sebby!!!
He definitely will. I wish he'd gone to Liverpool. Klopp would have turned him into a great. Chelsea was a disaster for Timo.
Im wondering why RB are so desperate for him to go
Probably the manager isn't keen. I can't believe Ange keeps playing Coy Parrot
Doesn’t fit the system and is on Premier League wages. Leipzig model doesn’t allow that
because he can't finish
❤
Liverpool just bought Nunez instead
95 in 159 is not a natural goal scorer?
This is more waste for the EPL. There are numerous players in the national leagues that play to a better standard.
Chelsea breaks players.
God no...why would he?
If anything is going to convince me he's a good player, it must be at least a 36 minute long video
😅at this point the Atheletic is a parody of itself
NO !
That shop analogy was awful. Who have spurs brought in that theyve improved that has lost their way. Perisic was at inter and hasnt improved. Bentancur is maybe the only one i can think of. Who are these guys talking pure muck.
Players who have improved this season (compared to Conte and Nuno)
- Pedro Porro
- Ben Davies
- Bissouma
- Sarr
- Richardlison
@@sahinayanoglu8063 he said spurs intake players and improve them. That is not the same thing.
@@jimmyf1446 Kulusevski maybe?
@joepower6657 maybe but he was like 20
but i think the analogy kinda fits. a lot of the players were struggling and quite a few of them were written off. that’s what’s beautiful about tottenham, its a team of misfits and imperfect players all working together to create something greater than the sum of their parts.
son- coming off his worse season both physically, mentally, and statistically
Bentancur and Kulusevski- written off at Juventus, then went through a tough season full on injury and poor team performance last year
Bissouma, Sarr, Gio Lo Celso- outsiders looking in under conte, deemed surplus to requirements
Porro, Royale, Davies- All looked at as not good enough for tottenham, now brought together to become great servants to the club
Vicario- the second option behind Raya and filling the huge hole left by Lloris
Maddison- overlooked by England after Leicester’s fall from the top
Every player had problems and were all being overlooked and written off, some less than others. But the club took a chance and reformed them, kinda like repairing the furniture in a shop.
No.
disappointing volume levels
36 minutes of.... probably not based on previous evidence.
he can't finish, I'm sick of hearing excuses for him and that other lemon Darwin Nunez
good lord get these boys some coffee, unwatchable conversation
I think it says more about you that you can't listen to nuanced conversation. Be honest, you prefer banta lads on towk spowrt dant ya, cockaney woide boys like jayson candeh playing the QUACK QUACK soundbite
No, saved you half an hour
lol
He's actually pointing at the badge of his team... Not his ear... But that's just how much he misses the mark...
If you know, you know... 😂😂😂😂
awww ok that was clean haha
It doesn't tske 36 minutes to answer this question. It doesn't even take 36 seconds. The answer is no.
Bring back tifo. This shit is so boring.
That's not even a valid proposition ...success and Spurs are mutually exclusive.
I miss tifo podcast