Muscle Cars Banned from Houston Car Meet (The Roman Report)

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • Regular Car Reviews presents a new segment: The Roman Report! In this special report, Roman talks about why muscle cars are now banned from Houston Coffee & Cars, one of the most popular monthly car meets in the United States! What happened that caused Mustangs, Challengers, Chargers, and Camaros to be permanently banned? How can other car shows prevent this from happening?
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:35 Houston Coffee & Cars bans modern muscle cars
    03:45 Brief history of Houston Coffee & Cars
    05:40 Are classic muscle cars banned too?
    07:07 The Hawthorne Effect and Car Meet Show-Offs
    10:40 Ways to prevent bad behavior / Why bans might not help
    11:20 In defense of the ban
    13:33 Closing
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  • @MrScottyBCollects
    @MrScottyBCollects Před 3 měsíci +913

    1:19 How about "Times New Roman"?

    • @timothywing8604
      @timothywing8604 Před 3 měsíci +32

      Okay... that's better than my idea.

    • @dxps26
      @dxps26 Před 3 měsíci +17

      Dodge Calibri

    • @fila1445
      @fila1445 Před 3 měsíci +11

      that's a latest Queens of the stone age album :P

    • @gstorhof1
      @gstorhof1 Před 3 měsíci +14

      New Times Roman

    • @jeraldjoyce2995
      @jeraldjoyce2995 Před 3 měsíci +20

      New Roman Times

  • @sctpoch
    @sctpoch Před 3 měsíci +485

    I suspect that what'll happen at C&C Houston will be more or less what happened when my local car meet did the same thing: the modern muscle cars and rice rockets will just post up in an empty parking lot across the street and have their own car meet, with blackjack and hookers.

    • @2steaksandwiches665
      @2steaksandwiches665 Před 3 měsíci +35

      Where is this show? Asking for a friend… cough

    • @Lui5_torre5
      @Lui5_torre5 Před 3 měsíci +29

      Matter of fact, forget the car meet!

    • @Poorgeniu5
      @Poorgeniu5 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Yup, I heard about that unoffical H2O car meet that caused the deaths of two people.... These clout chasers will do anything....

    • @mindinversions4487
      @mindinversions4487 Před 2 měsíci +4

      aaaahhhhhhh.... forget the blackjack.

    • @shortstories3349
      @shortstories3349 Před 2 měsíci +4

      can't really do that, considering the POST has nowhere to park anywhere around the premises. (That I can recall). Though it wouldn't be surprising that they would make their own elsewhere.

  • @SparkZ1420
    @SparkZ1420 Před 3 měsíci +230

    Pontiac guys sneaking into Houston C&C like 👀

    • @RollinRetro99
      @RollinRetro99 Před 3 měsíci +65

      PONTIAC MENTIONED RAAAAHHHHHHHH, WHAT THE FUCK IS HAVING CARS IN PRODUCTION🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅

    • @updog4L
      @updog4L Před 3 měsíci +3

      Callaway owners too I imagine

    • @spyderf16
      @spyderf16 Před 3 měsíci +27

      I haven't really seen any GTO or G8 drivers being utter dipshits around Houston, but I think anyone buying rebadged Holdens is a different kind of buyer compared to the typical muscle car owner.

    • @panzerfaust5046
      @panzerfaust5046 Před 3 měsíci +20

      @@RollinRetro99 ALL THREE PONTIAC ENTHUSIANTS, UNITE

    • @SparkZ1420
      @SparkZ1420 Před 2 měsíci

      @@spyderf16 👈 I'm one of those guys

  • @montysport94
    @montysport94 Před 3 měsíci +198

    The Houston C&C lost their Vintage Park venue because of some kid in a Genesis Coupe lost control and hit a tree. A separate event lost their Towne Lake venue because some kid spun out and hit a curb trying to show off their moms Tahoe. Seems like if anything they should ban participants under 25, or ban the crowd at the exit with their phones out waiting to catch the next viral crash.

    • @boyracer3477
      @boyracer3477 Před 2 měsíci +14

      I would say they should get three responsible guys from the club. Interview anyone who wants to bring their car to future meets telling them the rules. Give them a pass that is permanent based on their behavior. If they act out, take away the pass.

    • @michaelzepeda5785
      @michaelzepeda5785 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I remember the tahoe one. Think he almost hit a pole 💀. He went into the grass too.

    • @invalidaccount2315
      @invalidaccount2315 Před 2 měsíci

      we need to ban under 25 from a lot more than car meets, can we start with the tech world, every piece of tech they touch they mess up with their know it all attitude which trancends into hiring and recruiting to the point where us serious engineers seriously dont want anything to do with the industry.

  • @fenixlolnope361
    @fenixlolnope361 Před 3 měsíci +127

    banning american muscle from a texas car show is like banning hamburger meat from mcdonalds

    • @666cemetaryslut
      @666cemetaryslut Před 3 měsíci +25

      Modern muscle is like the McRib, it keeps coming around even though seemingly no one likes it.

    • @jsimmonstx
      @jsimmonstx Před 2 měsíci +21

      They banned hamburger meat from McDonald's decades ago.

    • @drdremd
      @drdremd Před 2 měsíci +9

      Do t worry, there’s no meat in McDonalds patties.

    • @alexbarn3841
      @alexbarn3841 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@666cemetaryslutmodern muscle is objectively better in every possible way than classic muscle. Classic cars are dogshit

    • @666cemetaryslut
      @666cemetaryslut Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@alexbarn3841They drive better but no one cares about them, they are regular traffic.

  • @House_of_Schmidt
    @House_of_Schmidt Před 3 měsíci +133

    They really should prevent crowds from gathering around the exits and entrances to these meets.

    • @nathanchildress5596
      @nathanchildress5596 Před 3 měsíci +18

      You can’t legally ban people standing on the sidewalk, but you can ban assholes doing burnouts.

    • @House_of_Schmidt
      @House_of_Schmidt Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@nathanchildress5596 the police can legally ban people from standing on the sidewalk.

    • @magnusthereddidnithingwrong
      @magnusthereddidnithingwrong Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@House_of_SchmidtThe police could ticket people for doing burnouts or speeding through the parking lot.

    • @RogueCowTurd
      @RogueCowTurd Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@House_of_Schmidt "we're waiting for our friend to come and pick us up, fuck off officer"

    • @nathanchildress5596
      @nathanchildress5596 Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@House_of_Schmidt Only if the sidewalk falls within the private event, otherwise you have a right to be there, and film, and get killed by Mustangs. Just ban the cars who are a problem, it's less messy and no one goes to car shows to look at modern muscle anyway, you can see enough of them on your commute

  • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
    @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před 3 měsíci +98

    Suspensions were not lifted, they were lowered.

  • @e30ogPlayground
    @e30ogPlayground Před 3 měsíci +254

    Thumbs up for Roman

    • @-fuk57
      @-fuk57 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Up, up!

    • @snakeeyes7973
      @snakeeyes7973 Před 3 měsíci

      No u

    • @Spazilton1
      @Spazilton1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      No, its total BS. I as a responsible Mustang Owner in my mid 40s that doesn't do stupid stuff, am now banned and can't attend these events because of the actions of a bunch of stupid kids.

    • @takcleberry
      @takcleberry Před 2 měsíci

      @@Spazilton1he’s only making the video, he’s not the coordinator of Houston cars & coffee or (hope not) the owners doing burnouts

  • @jimmynickelz
    @jimmynickelz Před 3 měsíci +81

    Just moistened the algorithm

  • @Grogzu
    @Grogzu Před 3 měsíci +215

    "classic" is when the owner cares about their cars enough not to do burnouts and revs. (Bonus points for mentioning the Hawthorne Effect).

    • @WhitefolksT
      @WhitefolksT Před 3 měsíci +3

      Naked Dennis Gage bussin in his own hat in the back seat. That's who doesn't do burnouts in a muscle car.

    • @testcrit701
      @testcrit701 Před 3 měsíci +1

      What's the Hawthorne effect?

    • @Grogzu
      @Grogzu Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@testcrit701 Roman explains it in the video quite well. Better than my professors in management science did.

    • @HAL-dm1eh
      @HAL-dm1eh Před 3 měsíci

      That can still be anyone though.

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge Před 3 měsíci +4

      The muscle car is built to get beat on and destroyed if your looking for that go get some luxobarge cruiser

  • @heikkiremes5661
    @heikkiremes5661 Před 3 měsíci +43

    Anything pre-1999 is a classic. Quarter of a century is the cutoff.

    • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
      @flamestoyershadowkill6400 Před 3 měsíci

      Some people use classic to refer to carbirated cars. If it is fuel injection it is not classic

    • @thejay8963
      @thejay8963 Před 3 měsíci +12

      ​@flamestoyershadowkill6400
      Those people are wrong. Ever heard of a TR6 with Lewis fuel injection? Not a modern car. How about the Mercedes 300SL's fuel injection? Definitely nothing but a classic.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 Před 3 měsíci +4

      New Edge Mustang is classic now ❤

    • @ItsJustaMeNow
      @ItsJustaMeNow Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think it should be any car over 30 years, right? a 20 year old car is just old. Kinda how the 60s/70s care were just old in the 80s, but now they're hot.

    • @Nick-ue7iw
      @Nick-ue7iw Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@ItsJustaMeNow 25 years is the standard set by the NHRA and is generally accepted as the cutoff.

  • @deltacharlieecho4732
    @deltacharlieecho4732 Před 3 měsíci +48

    This is a great way to end off the month. I’m currently working on finding both a reliable work car and my next e36/e46 project car and you are the only automotive channel that doesn’t make me feel like a loser for not also having them. If you do this series consistently, I think “And that’s what I think about that” is the most fitting sign off for your combination of content and personality. You speak frankly and unabashedly and that line just seems to pair with the style perfectly.

  • @misterdarkcloud2384
    @misterdarkcloud2384 Před 3 měsíci +45

    a porshe 918 crashed at our local cars and coffee and either seriously injured or killed someone a few years back. It could be anybody.

    • @andrewmaximo4485
      @andrewmaximo4485 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Statistically, it will probably be an altama or Silverado that isn't at the car show.

    • @chrissellshomes150
      @chrissellshomes150 Před 3 měsíci +16

      Correct. It could be "anybody", but we all know who it is typically......

    • @scottjs5207
      @scottjs5207 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@chrissellshomes150 RWD cars with enough torque to spin the tires? That Includes Supras, BMWs, Vettes and even exotics but yeah, I know the one's people like to point out because of how many exist.

  • @vapsa56
    @vapsa56 Před 3 měsíci +90

    In my town of Cary NC, this problem was solved with an entrance fee for all attendees for the car owners to the event organizers. A portion of that fee was then goes to the town to pay for police presence at the event to prevent burnouts and bad behavior. Yes, it has echoes of Mafia protection, extortion money, and of a police state. But we have no bad behavior or burnouts from attendees now. It is a shame that a few bad people always, ALWAYS, ruin it for everyone else.

    • @yungfella8474
      @yungfella8474 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Classic example of bottom quartile law

    • @Kalkas53
      @Kalkas53 Před 3 měsíci

      Look at what's happened to Daytona bike week

    • @christopherscott3120
      @christopherscott3120 Před 2 měsíci +2

      What event are you referring to? I'm heavily into the Triangle car scene and I don't think I've been to an event in Cary since the Echo Park C&C shut down last year. Cary has the reputation of being the most unfriendly town to car events of any in the area.

    • @3404demon
      @3404demon Před 2 měsíci +2

      Our local CofC has talked about this, what has come up is the real problems haven't been these banned cars and many times its not even the participants. People driving by have acted stupid. Last year they had a local police officer there who didn't do anything but block exiting traffic. This year they will have a sheriff. We'll see how that goes.

    • @touayaaj84
      @touayaaj84 Před 2 měsíci

      Not going to lie, when i was stationed at fort bragg, i frequent the Morrisville C&C a lot.

  • @user-fm7zz5cg8h
    @user-fm7zz5cg8h Před 3 měsíci +75

    Im surprised that this was the Muscle car scene and not the 350/370z + infinit scene.

    • @2steaksandwiches665
      @2steaksandwiches665 Před 3 měsíci +48

      Those guys are typically working at the vape shop when the show happens

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 Před 3 měsíci +13

      Meh the VQ will bend a rod before any torque is made

    • @RAD-RC
      @RAD-RC Před 2 měsíci +7

      It's cars and coffee. The muscle car owners have jobs and can wake up for a cars and coffee event. Those guys are the midnight racers.

    • @2steaksandwiches665
      @2steaksandwiches665 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@RAD-RC lot of boomers own muscle cars and they sleep in due to age

    • @maskedbugman
      @maskedbugman Před 17 dny

      Cause it's Texas, every drives challengers, 2500s, Camaros, f-150 and Silverados.

  • @PintoPopProductions
    @PintoPopProductions Před 3 měsíci +25

    You guys attended my local cars and coffee (Blackhawk) several years ago. That show was a victim of its own success, growing until it started taking over the entire shopping center parking lot. Some of the businesses complained about parking, and some of the local Karens up the hill complained about noise. And one particularly famous incident involving an orange BMW that lost control into the median. Someone else organizes a cars and coffee now in a different location, much smaller, and on a Friday because they know that the old guys who are retired can attend it while dumb kids are at school or work. Blackhawk Museum still hosts car shows from time to time, but they are much more strict about it.

  • @mrfoohy11
    @mrfoohy11 Před 3 měsíci +17

    I appreciate this short-form opinion video essay from you. I think this type of video can compliment your RCR stories while also allowing smaller topics to have a moment in the light of Roman.

  • @Jaykwan88
    @Jaykwan88 Před 3 měsíci +22

    I will always like any rwd v8 from a 96 4.6 gt with fckd paint and an exhaust leak to 6 figure mondern day monsters...and I've taken some hideous Craigslist cars to shows as a younger me proud of myself...but imagine being parked next to thousands of way nicer cars and still thinking "they'll like me if I just full send it right now"

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 Před 3 měsíci +7

      People who rev up their engine and do burnouts are annoying. This is coming from someone with a modded V8 (most mods by previous owners.)

  • @beverlyhillbilly7914
    @beverlyhillbilly7914 Před 3 měsíci +22

    This type of behavior is everywhere. Here in NorCal it could come from any type of owner, driving any type of car, at any type of event. And there’s always a crowd big enough egging it on. This whole problem is a deeper car culture problem than most will admit. People love seeing it, no matter how it ends. Social media gets so moist over it. It got to the point where I decided to currently not engage with my local car scene in any way. And that’s sad, because I do miss it. I can’t be the only person deciding this because of a potential bad situation.
    I feel that car enthusiasts coming to this decision is almost worse than the ones causing problems, or these blanket bans that come across as lazy and reactive at best. The people causing problems will always want to come back. Quiet people who behave and want no drama may not. Maybe we can’t have nice things?

    • @shakyjake2133
      @shakyjake2133 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Couldn't have phrased this better myself. Very well put.

    • @Nick-ue7iw
      @Nick-ue7iw Před 3 měsíci

      It's not just cars. You cant have a nice event ANYWHERE now without some jackass misbehaving and ruining things. So many people out there are desperate for attention, and society has been trained to not stand up and tell the sore thumbs to get f**ked.

    • @JollyGiant19
      @JollyGiant19 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Too many people wanting to play out the original version of Let’s Get It Started with their car

  • @magnusthereddidnithingwrong
    @magnusthereddidnithingwrong Před 3 měsíci +7

    Yo, I'd love to get a regular editorial vid like this on car news. This sort of informative stuff is really in Roman's wheelhouse like with the excellent RCR Car Stories series, and it's absolutely fine for him to give an opinion on current events as well.

  • @Ghostbustingjedi
    @Ghostbustingjedi Před 3 měsíci +104

    I've always wanted to own a Mustang, but I never fit in with the 'stang bro mentality. And now I'm too close to 40, for it to be considered anything but a midlife crisis.

    • @skyraiser9
      @skyraiser9 Před 3 měsíci +30

      It def is a midlife crisis-mobile. I am 41 and just bought one and have wanted to do so since I was a teen, though I got a Ecoboost with the High performance package, so enough to have fun but not a "real" mustang and I def dont fit the 'stang bro look. Heck, I got pulled over by a cop on the way to work 2 days after buying it to make sure I hadnt stolen it and when the officer saw me get out of the car he pretty much went "Oh, nvm, move along"

    • @robertspadaro4329
      @robertspadaro4329 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Get a vintage one. Then you'll be associated with driving it like a granny and being your exact age (or even older lol). They look better, too.

    • @rickc303
      @rickc303 Před 3 měsíci +50

      Imagine letting other's considerations dictate how you spend your money and enjoyment during time living

    • @jinezawa7089
      @jinezawa7089 Před 3 měsíci +39

      Nah, you shouldn't care what other people think, get what you want. You're not spending your own money to get a car for other people to drive, you're spending it to get a car for YOU to drive. You start letting other people decide what you drive, then at the end of it the only thing that'll be "okay" to own is a corolla. Then you'll get blasted for being boring, old, and unimaginative. It ain't worth it

    • @omniphoriusvcf907
      @omniphoriusvcf907 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Just bought an 2014 s197 rag top. I know it's not the car people expect me to have, but it's actually a great car for a 49 year old who doesn't want to drive like an asshole. If you have a V6 and automatic, it's a great cruiser with light, old school American steering. The way to do midlife crisis is to not give a fuck. But you do have to get used to it...I see myself as more of a BMW e30 kind of guy, so it was an adjustment.

  • @expo4266
    @expo4266 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I implore you to make more of these, this made my morning better.

  • @MogoPrime
    @MogoPrime Před 3 měsíci +4

    Really loved this thinkpiece. Looking forward to more monthly Roman thoughts!

  • @rogerwalnut
    @rogerwalnut Před 3 měsíci +1

    I could listen to Roman talk about just about anything. This was great!

  • @seanmetzinger
    @seanmetzinger Před 3 měsíci +11

    I stumbled upon a "car show" that had almost all new (2000s and newer) Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers ... the only two cars that were different and had people surrounding them to look at them was a VW Thang and a DeLorean. Even the enthusiast around the modern muscle cars had that "Seen it, own it" attitude and were flocking to something different.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Everyone wants to see something unique, whether they like to admit it or not. I'm the only local with a Baja bug and it always draws a ton of attention.

  • @davidhein5045
    @davidhein5045 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I appreciate the mix of reporting and discussion

  • @passacaglia28
    @passacaglia28 Před 2 měsíci

    Nick, I never feel like my time is wasted on your content. Keep doing you!

  • @mrlt1
    @mrlt1 Před 3 měsíci

    Another great video, I like the idea of this one. if you can do more that would be cool. Thanks for the great content. It actually helps listening to or watching the videos at work. I work as a technician and a lot of the regular car reviews have got me through some really crappy days. Anyway, have a good one.

  • @Modi_
    @Modi_ Před 3 měsíci +1

    I could listen to roman talk about any topic for 4 hours and not be bored. Just like with james may, you articulate everything perfectly.

  • @jackattack5928
    @jackattack5928 Před 2 měsíci

    I thoroughly appreciate Roman’s even-handed approach to a this situation. Well-considered discussion of a contentious topic.

  • @Unholyhairhole
    @Unholyhairhole Před 3 měsíci

    I'm loving the idea of the Roman Report. I vote let's keep doing that!!

  • @airjordankel
    @airjordankel Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks Nick! Always enjoy your commentary. Please consider doing more videos on topics of your choosing

  • @electrofreak0
    @electrofreak0 Před 3 měsíci +31

    If I was running the show, I'd have cars sign up with info and a proper set of rules of conduct. Getting in would require you to submit info about your car such as make, model, color, plate #. Then if someone is being disruptive, you can identify that specific individual and revoke their ticket for future events (or give them temp. suspensions for first time offenders). Of course, the issue here is big corporations not wanting something bad to happen so they don't have bad PR associated with their name b/c that's all that really matters. They could care less if someone is hurt or killed, they just don't want that to be with their name stamped on the flag above it.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 Před 3 měsíci +8

      If they grew the event up, like Hot Rod Power Tour, Cleetus and Cars, Woodward Dream Cruise, LS Fest and held the event at a racetrack or huge stadium parking lot, they could set up one or more supervised events like an autocross, drift course, short drag strip or burnout box and there would be significantly less reason or temptation for anyone to act like a hooligan on the streets near the event, how can a bunch of people who are supposed to enthusiasts and companies that promote ownership of fast street cars expect people to not drive fast on the street, that is the most hipocritical thing I ever heard, if these were all illegal racecars being trailered there to only be shown that would be one thing, this is a celebration of fast street legal vehicles, grow up the event, make more money and give these people a designated place to show off and have fun. If the place where the event happens is against that, move it to somewhere that will accommodate it, the event certainly brings money to the businesses in the vicinity of the event selling fuel, food and so on its horse to say they don't and they need to accommodate the visitors and attendees, even if it means having police block off a section of a side road, setting up concrete barriers, wetting the road and letting people do a rolling burnie with supervision and relative safety, this Fudd attitude is disgusting and stupid.

    • @ra0929
      @ra0929 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Safety, perceived or otherwise, is usually going to be one of the top priorities for an event organizer. There is insurance needed to cover an event, the reputational risk for the organizers and sponsors, plus the litigious fallout if something were to happen.

    • @gregoryholland6126
      @gregoryholland6126 Před 2 měsíci +1

      But that would take effort and thought; can’t have that, gotta react

  • @Anwar74
    @Anwar74 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was really good, loved the conversational feel honestly.

  • @RandomActsOfBlindness
    @RandomActsOfBlindness Před 3 měsíci

    I love when you do videos like this. Keep it up, and be well!

  • @thepsychobilly88
    @thepsychobilly88 Před 2 měsíci

    I enjoyed this segment, would totally not mind hearing/seeing more segments like this :)

  • @mry82
    @mry82 Před měsícem

    Roman, always down to listen to your banter!

  • @davyrando1203
    @davyrando1203 Před 3 měsíci +24

    If it's invitational-only, it's no longer Cars & Coffee. It's now just another big car show. The whole point of Cars & Coffee is to be a more casual car show with a wider, non-gatekept variety of vehicles.
    Perhaps it is time for that car show to no longer be a C&C event.

    • @tman1990
      @tman1990 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Well the mustangs, cameros and challengers owners will just start their own events and not allow any of these other cars and coffee attendees.

    • @thejay8963
      @thejay8963 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@tman1990
      Yeah, it just becomes an arms race of pettiness, which is why I think the overall ban is ridiculous. If something goes down between disgruntled owners and the organizers next time they host it, I have to blame the organizers for banning an entire group and expecting it to play out well.

  • @PenskePC17
    @PenskePC17 Před 3 měsíci +22

    I dont understand why they're not putting out individual bans....oh, wait did you say Challengers? Nvmnd, I understand completely. We got to keep up those ratios for appearance sake.

  • @SkylerStMarie
    @SkylerStMarie Před 3 měsíci +1

    I really enjoyed Romans’s reports, I like that it talks about news involving the car scenes today

    • @AdamG1983
      @AdamG1983 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I love this channel:
      Roman's long form informative reports and Mr. Regular's "B R O W N", and *"HOT DICKS!"*

  • @zachfolts
    @zachfolts Před 3 měsíci +7

    Who else wants an rcr stories on Tommy Fenstemacher

    • @JesusGarcia-en3pj
      @JesusGarcia-en3pj Před 3 měsíci

      Cant stand Roman’s voice enunciating words like “nuanced” “digress” “purgatory”… or the entire middle English language.
      I just skip every Roman review. Except this report. I wanna know whats going on with Houston’s Cars & Coffee.

  • @Kinann
    @Kinann Před 3 měsíci +3

    Hot Rod TV takes some responsibility for this by popularizing doing ridiculous burnouts for the sake of being idiots.

  • @bryanthorne3474
    @bryanthorne3474 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Good report Roman! I love mustangs and think they're a lot of fun. I'm sad and a little frustrated they've been banned, but can kinda understand because so many idiots seem to drive them and have no idea how to control them. I wonder if this policy will spread more widely in the car show world?

  • @ronraddie6162
    @ronraddie6162 Před 3 měsíci

    I highly enjoyed this thank you.

  • @johncallahan118
    @johncallahan118 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hi ! I enjoyed this video. 😃 The title is fine for me. It’s simple, straight to the point.
    You’re doing great. Keep going like this. Take care. 😄

  • @deioaros
    @deioaros Před 2 měsíci

    Good video, well thought out and presented.

  • @Gigacivic
    @Gigacivic Před 3 měsíci

    Times new Roman would be an incredible name and yes please give us more of this!

  • @Pixels_And_Petrol
    @Pixels_And_Petrol Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just want to give my two cents this is very enjoyable and it's great listening material when I'm driving

  • @ElyDooo
    @ElyDooo Před 2 měsíci +2

    Honestly as a VQ owner i would support this even if/when this comes to my locale and they come for G/Z's. I mean, id just park somewhere away from the event and walk just to be able to still have these events at all

  • @chrishuff1419
    @chrishuff1419 Před 3 měsíci

    Oh yeah. The Roman Report and Last Week Tonight are what keeps me informed about the important stuff happening in the world.

  • @adamoboccitto5595
    @adamoboccitto5595 Před 3 měsíci

    This was a fantastic video!!!

  • @MrJommins
    @MrJommins Před 3 měsíci +2

    Very cool I enjoyed the Roman report. And honestly, as far as car shows are concerned all you need is my family of dealerships. Screw the Astros! Sincerely, Joel, Kunkleman, Dealer Principal, Kunkleman Fiat / Mazda / Yugo.

  • @byronjones4635
    @byronjones4635 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I agree with it. I’ve seen quite a few Arizona meets die from behavior such as this and it’s usually either modern muscle or early to mid 2000s Nissans. Unfortunately many drivers of those cars just don’t know how to respect other’s property

  • @5665gopher
    @5665gopher Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you 🙏

  • @BlueCollarExCalifornian
    @BlueCollarExCalifornian Před 3 měsíci +8

    This was really well said. I know it’s slightly off topic but here goes. I can totally understand why they did this because of a huge personal reason is probably gonna sound like a broken record. Last year a friend of mine suggested a local Jeep meetup called “ Jeep’s & Java”. I was a little reluctant to go because my 98 Cherokee is not exactly a pinup model and I’m a huge introvert. Nobody ragged on me about my faded trim pieces or paint chips but rather everyone that went welcomed me with open arms. There are few better sensations than that. There was one time that one of those meetups got me out of a big pit of depression I was in. I think that it’s completely understandable that the big 3 muscle cars were banned because when someone acts rowdy, they risk the future of that one car meet. That car meet I bet has guys like me who don’t have a lot of self-esteem, are shy, and are huge introverts where a car meet helps them breathe for a little while around fellow car enthusiasts. I hope you do more “Roman Reports” :)

  • @iwolchuckup
    @iwolchuckup Před 3 měsíci +4

    Burnouts and revving have been a part of every car meet I've ever been to, I get that this is a big event and the sponsors/non-participating attendees changes it. Could they possibly have a designated 'hooning area' or a planned burnout contest of some kind so people can get it out of their system in a controlled/relatively safe area? I think while some may not like it there are also some, including spectators who come to see that stuff too.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Very few property owners will allow that.
      I've seen it once in my area. A local Quaker steak has a burnout competition once a year after the largest car show in the state and it's pretty regimented.

  • @grant4502
    @grant4502 Před 2 měsíci +1

    As someone whos attended coffee and cars in Houston for the past 10 years, im fine with modern muscle being banned from these events. These cars are nothing special, you see them everyday in Houston. Like how unique can a dodge charger be? Definitely better than the occasional modified chevy cruze I see there tho...

  • @KennyCnotG
    @KennyCnotG Před 2 měsíci

    Roman content is my favourite RCR content. Just soooo good

  • @user-vu9sq9qs8q
    @user-vu9sq9qs8q Před 2 měsíci +1

    Over here in Germany also many complain about burnouts. Going to a modern car meet complaining about that IS just nonsense. It's a ban of fun. 😂

  • @Nevadarain72
    @Nevadarain72 Před 2 měsíci

    There's a car show in Redmond WA called Exotics at Redmond Town Center that does a few things to keep things under control. 1) An approved list of cars that can be part of the display area (viewable on their site), 2) a specific entrance point with security that gets combined with 3) a list of banned individuals/specific cars who behave badly.

  • @theothertonydutch
    @theothertonydutch Před 3 měsíci +6

    I downloaded NFS2: SE and I have never felt more connected to the universe.

  • @dnangelphil
    @dnangelphil Před 3 měsíci +8

    Good morning

  • @davidpistek6241
    @davidpistek6241 Před 2 měsíci

    Been listening and watching for years keep it up

  • @TheKoolkriz
    @TheKoolkriz Před 3 měsíci

    I enjoyed this. The Title is good Roman.

  • @RM61827
    @RM61827 Před 3 měsíci +12

    There is a completely unorganized meet in Rancho Santa Fe (Uber-rich suburb north of San Diego) that happens every Saturday morning, hundreds of people show up and there is literally zero organizing body involved which is likely the only reason the old ladies haven’t shut it down yet. I attend and I’ve personally seen several multi-million dollar vintage Ferraris, 300SL Gullwings, 1920’s coachbuilt cars like Packards, Porsche 959’s, every flavor of 911 you could ever imagine, hell Doug DeMuro personally shows up a lot of the time in his Carrera GT. Yeah we have some bad actors but they typically get the evil eye from those in attendance. It proves it can be done even without big-money sponsorship and I think letting in corporate money is making a deal with the devil, sooner or later there’s a catch when their interests conflict with yours.

    • @carpespasm
      @carpespasm Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah guys, it can happen anywhere. As long as the only people for miles are millionaires preening for one another and you're surrounded by state parks and a canyon keeping the riff-raff at bay. Anyone's welcome to show up to the impromptu country club car meet.

  • @SantiagoAntonutti
    @SantiagoAntonutti Před 3 měsíci

    Yooo this section is great, love you Roman. Invitationals also are just an inch from making you pay for entry, on a dodgy website.

  • @chrisk.6531
    @chrisk.6531 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was great, Roman. You valid, don't change the name (or intro istg)

  • @I_will_pet_your_dogs
    @I_will_pet_your_dogs Před 3 měsíci +76

    "Real fart" is my favourite segment of RCR.

  • @randypullman1155
    @randypullman1155 Před 3 měsíci

    Great report, Roman!

    • @randypullman1155
      @randypullman1155 Před 3 měsíci

      Cars and coffee needs to evolve more. Hopefully, one day, it will evolve into something we all can enjoy or not.

  • @RavTokomi
    @RavTokomi Před 2 měsíci +1

    Been getting worse as the whole "takeover" trend makes its way to other gatherings and shows. The banned cars, especially the Dodges, are the cheapest and easiest to get.

  • @JonathanCabot
    @JonathanCabot Před 3 měsíci +12

    thank you roman for talking about cars 👍

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt Před 3 měsíci +12

    Definitely something to think about. With 9000 cars they don't have to worry about who else will show up, if anything it'll make the other stuff easier to see. And windows that don't go down all the way aren't a child-safety thing, they have to do with how much space in the door there is for the window to retract into with the rear wheelwell in the way.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Personally I see it as a win. A line of 20 challengers that are effectively identical isn't exciting.

    • @wykydytron
      @wykydytron Před 2 měsíci +1

      And line of 20 identical bmw, Hondas or whatever is?

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 Před 2 měsíci

      @@wykydytron No.

  • @captainbigboy1063
    @captainbigboy1063 Před 2 měsíci

    I was at that event in my Jurassic Jeep and with a friend in a Jurassic explorer. It was the day they actually permanently banned muscle cars. Unlike events before that it was complete disorganization and chaos, it was supposed to be 80s 90s retro day and we were supposed to have reserved spots for movie vehicles. nothing. they gave the spots to random vehicles (although the Delorean made it) complete opposite of last year's 80s 90s themed show. Hopefully it'll be better next year.

  • @VoreAxalon
    @VoreAxalon Před 2 měsíci

    I love these Roman analysis videos

  • @motohddk
    @motohddk Před 3 měsíci

    amazing report!

  • @samueltorodeltoro
    @samueltorodeltoro Před 3 měsíci

    Nice addition

  • @kllntime101
    @kllntime101 Před 3 měsíci

    I hope you end up doing more of these

  • @oldgranite6467
    @oldgranite6467 Před 3 měsíci +2

    How about "All Roads Lead to Roman"?

  • @karmatose
    @karmatose Před 3 měsíci

    I enjoyed this.

  • @ScarletSwordfish
    @ScarletSwordfish Před 3 měsíci

    Good ep.

  • @colincraigo5793
    @colincraigo5793 Před 3 měsíci

    Requiring owners of these specific muscle cars to register or get/request an invite to event is a smart alternative to just flat-out banning them. Like you said, it then allows the organizers to hold people accountable.

  • @stephen3164
    @stephen3164 Před 3 měsíci +2

    As a S197 owner, modern Stangs, Cameros, and Doges can stay home. Don’t need them at a car show. Let’s see more interesting cars instead.

  • @BassOutcast
    @BassOutcast Před 2 měsíci

    RCR, are you gonna do more bike content? Some fans aren't that into cars but really love your motorcycle videos!

  • @peatyxxjxxx1494
    @peatyxxjxxx1494 Před 3 měsíci

    Makes sense. I go to car shows to see the unique and interesting cars you don’t see in everyday traffic.

    • @jsimmonstx
      @jsimmonstx Před 2 měsíci

      Car shows used to be this - Either classics, race cars, or customs - nothing civilian. One problem is that "custom" has been eased to include people that swapped out shift knobs and wheels.

  • @kilovwdude6457
    @kilovwdude6457 Před 2 měsíci

    Dude I went to cars and coffee at the post here in Houston at the beginning of the month and I've never seen so many burnouts! I was scared the venue was gonna kick everyone out

  • @jorgejefferson8251
    @jorgejefferson8251 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I've read posts online asking why people bring modern cars to the typical car shows that give out trophies. I explained that the majority of car shows use the entry fees and food sales for donations to local charities and the generated revenue would suffer greatly if modern cars were excluded. Most modern car owners who attend don't expect to get a trophy because they know the local car clubs that normally run the events are biased more towards the classic cars that they own. Some of the car shows have instituted separate categories for more modern cars. I've only been to one cars and coffee event and it was a different animal all together.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Well often there's no sense in giving them a trophy. Your 3 year old car is stock and pretty? Okay so?

    • @jsimmonstx
      @jsimmonstx Před 2 měsíci

      The show organizers support it by having classes for those cars. If not for modern muscle, car shows would be overrun by corvettes (which leads to the largest collection of New Balance sneakers you'd ever want to see) or JDM stuff, or not have many cars at all, because the classics are getting hella expensive.

  • @Thohean
    @Thohean Před 2 měsíci

    I went to a car meet a few weeks ago in Houston and this exact problem shut down the car meet. Cops came and told everyone to leave.

  • @LaneMy3rs
    @LaneMy3rs Před 3 měsíci

    You pretty summed it up with the way I would fix it

  • @Rubedo222
    @Rubedo222 Před 3 měsíci

    This was great, I'd like to see more of these. They can even be shorter if you don't have a lot of time to dedicate to them. The anything in the news format has a lot of possibilities.
    As to C&C Houston, hopefully they find a more just way to deal with troublemakers but I definitely understand why they did what they did. Even if money wasn't on the line, safety is and if people got hurt because of dudebros acting out in public then that would be the organizers' first concern. And beyond safety, there could also be police and legal trouble to come along with it. Individual invites or registrations to have a record of who is there and who can then be banned if need be sounds like the best solution.

  • @jackalnerf6230
    @jackalnerf6230 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is why classic guys have our own meets and don’t let new car guys in. Often times they are totally different kinds of people who have unique cars for opposite reasons. I drive my little Falcon because it legitimately makes people smile, seems that new muscle guys get a messed hellcat to piss people off.

    • @existinginaspace8347
      @existinginaspace8347 Před 2 měsíci

      My 69 Falcon was loud, anoying, and slow. I loved pissing people off with it. Especially since I work night shift in a residential area and drove it to work.
      Make friends with the PD around you and you won't get noise complaints

    • @jackalnerf6230
      @jackalnerf6230 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@existinginaspace8347 Oh mine is loud and slow, but it makes people excited not angry. I dunno when you owned yours but maybe there's a statute of limitations on when people decide a car is too old to be mad at.

  • @mark63366
    @mark63366 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is how a risk adverse corporations shrink customers and profits. This is how competing events gain ground.

  • @idaho_girl
    @idaho_girl Před 3 měsíci

    Love The Roman Report!

  • @TannCo2
    @TannCo2 Před 3 měsíci

    I enjoyed this video.

  • @Hazdazos
    @Hazdazos Před 3 měsíci +8

    This is how you know the Horsepower Wars of the last decade or two has gone way, way too far. Modern cars have a disgusting amount of power and are sold to people with zero self control and no other legal outlet to have some fun with their cars. We need more racetracks and more drag tracks or these people who have spent way too much on their overpowered cars will find other ways to get the thrills they want. We can pretend otherwise and take draconian actions, but people ultimately need some way to blow off some steam.

    • @Nick-ue7iw
      @Nick-ue7iw Před 3 měsíci +6

      Trouble is the NIMBYS have shut down most tracks because of "muh noise". Then they complain of street racing.

    • @servicerifle16
      @servicerifle16 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@Nick-ue7iwlike Laguna Seca?

    • @izzy031096
      @izzy031096 Před 2 měsíci

      Bro just burnout pads will do

  • @aletron4750
    @aletron4750 Před 3 měsíci +2

    honestly it sucks i agree, but american muscle cars have a notorious reputation for a reason

  • @seafooddiablo5686
    @seafooddiablo5686 Před 2 měsíci

    As a modern muscle car guy i see both sides its exactly why i dont bring my camaro to events i just come in my cx5 and am just a spectator looking for cool and unique builds. Built > bought

  • @timothywing8604
    @timothywing8604 Před 3 měsíci

    Maybe the "Roman Roundup"? (Get it? 'Cause Mustangs?) Anyway, good piece, Roman! I support this new segment.

  • @johnboynb
    @johnboynb Před 3 měsíci +1

    YEAH!!! The Roman Report!!!!! Wooooooooooooooo........ (foams at mouth and falls over)

  • @jmanke6057
    @jmanke6057 Před 2 měsíci +1

    People showing off uncontrolled wanting to out do the last guy. Then add some drivers not understanding all their vehicle operations.
    A big issue is traction control “drivers” in vehicles that have it forget how it function and forget to turn it off (a device that modulates brakes for traction) isn’t intended for use under high level power use if brakes grab it can put vehicle out of control with hazardous results. Perhaps contest only in controlled areas or reminding show and coffee not exhibition outside of controlled areas or not at this show? Show and coffee only! My Mustang I say only at the track it disappoints kids but if we go to the track they get a new respect

  • @Sunday_Woodward
    @Sunday_Woodward Před 3 měsíci

    Good video.
    My only comment is that I’m confused by how you guys determine which video is for RCR and which is for R&R.