So disappointed it had to end like this
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- So that's it -- I there's nowhere I can legally fly an RC plane, drone or FPV any more. The South Waikato District Council tells you one thing but refuses to give me the same assurances in writing so I'm simply grounded.
I've had over 60 years of joy from this hobby and I'd hoped for a few more but that is clearly not going to be the case. The general apathy within the RC community has sealed the fate of the hobby and I'm just another victim of that.
Sorry guys... I did my best but I just expected too much of others.
And a HUGE heartfelt thanks to those few who did take the time to send off those emails to the council. It's just a shame that this council is a group with zero ethics, morals or honesty and who won't be swayed by a few dozen emails they are now going to ignore. - Sport
If they can't show you law for the requirements they are imposing on you, ignore them. Fly until you're arrested (which may never happen). Any arrest for breaking a nonexistent law, is grounds for a major lawsuit for false arrest. Talk to an attorney to confirm this. Don't give up to bullies who have no law to support their actions against you.
They can't "legally" stop you from flying (as you've stated), if there is no law stopping you. Go fly.
He's been telling everyone else to do that for years.
Lawsuit ? Do you live in Nz?
Exactly. Just go fly. You looked up the rules and they confirmed there is none like that.
I agree, screw them. I do the same. I am 77 been flying since 21 Now my club wants me to do a exam to prove I can fly safely. I told them where to put that exam. Now they threatened to ban me. Well I mow the Grass at the club and maintain the equipment like the big diesel mower and generators, only one that can do it for free, just dare ban me, haha
Bruce doesn't have the dollars nor would there be an attorney that will fight for Bruce if he got arrested for noncompliance.
My only real advice to you is that you have built this channel up from nothing, don't let it die from this. Find a way to make this a positive. Nothing is off the table. There are places all over the world that would love to have you come fly and film. People have travelled to Tokoroa from all over the world to see the famous airfield featured in xjet videos, now go visit them. Make a plan, tell us how much money you need to do it and I bet you will get it done.
Bruce is a true asset to this industry/Hobby. I am sure many of us would support
If they can’t show you any rules, screw ‘em Bruce. Go fly anyway.
I agree with you except for 1 thing...
If he only got a few dozen people to email council, I doubt enough money would flow in to "Start" a glow engine, let alone pay for him to go somewhere.
@@lectro88 sending $20 on GoFundMe is much faster and easier than writing a letter. Just sayin
"I'm a poor fit for the modern world" You and me both brother.
same
and same as well.
Same
The next question is: How are you gonna leave this unfit world? With a bang or a whimper?
@@scaleworksRC Good luck making a bang. Unless you mean literally lmao.
I'm a trained attorney in the United States and an FPV pilot. Are there any attorneys in the hobby (NZ) out there that could assist Bruce in his efforts de novo? I think it's time to come together and help one of the founders of FPV media. The way he is being bullied is pissing me off.
It's a question also of Jurisdiction.
The corporate world has no jurisdiction over a living man.
Anyone hiring you, surrenders that jurisdiction via your registration, but keep it, and they can't feed Justitia and steal your liberty and money.
Not really relevant to my comment, but, uh... ok. @@G-ra-ha-m
Any updates on this?
I hate to say it, but those politicians don't care about messages from people outside of their voting district. So those of us in other countries have no real power to help you.
I also agree the hobby is stuffed, 1000%. And it makes me sad.
I was just about to say the same thing, then I noticed so many people have said it already.
Also, there is a legitimate question on the morality of attempting to manipulate representatives of an area you don't live in.
All said, unless I'm individually asked by someone in an area; I don't get involved.
I say this as someone who is heavily involved in my area and has been a campaign manager three times (all wins) because we needed to kick out the people who were in because they were pulling this sort of nonsense. (Generally worse sorts of things as well.)
Why do you hate to say it? Politicians SHOULDN'T care about messages from people outside their voting district. Can you imagine how abused a system would be if they listened to outsiders?
@@SirSpence99 "... on the morality of attempting to manipulate representatives of an area you don't live in."
While outsider's wishes should not override those who live there, there are no problems getting involved. As I travel around my part of NZ and read council regulations on drones, it seems a bit of copy-paste-modify goes on with these policies. So, a win (even less of a loss) in one jurisdiction could have a wider effect. That aside, pushing back on encroachments to our freedoms is part of a wider battle against our transformation into a permission-first society. Can I even say that? Better ask mummy council.
Cheer up and ignore them.
Ignore them. Carry on regardless
Yup, that would be my response.
Yes and just stop antagonizing them publicly. Just go fly where you want and to hell with the authorities.
time to ignore the frickers and do what you want
@@SimpleDecay hasn't done anything wrong, or the police would be talking to him.
Do not comply there are no council laws being broken anyways and the council has no authority to makes laws and fines.
I feel for you Bruce, I too am old school. Bought up in a time and place in the world when ethics and empathy actually meant something and "for the common good" was a concept that people not only understood but honoured and were willing to back it with not only their words, not even only their actions but indeed their very lives. Unfortunately the past few years have made it absolutely crystal clear that most people only care about themselves and couldn't really give a crumpet about the rest of the world. We are indeed unfortunately from a bygone era and the world has willfully gone to hell in a hand basket.
Don't let them get you down Bruce, you're a great advocate for RC modeling and UAV's, I hope you find a way to stick around and get through the pettiness of others.
I'm 64 with severe spine problems' when I was in good shape I always helped when I was asked for help but as I started falling apart things changed with people it made me change who I am my flying days too are numbed so I just try to enjoy those days that are good besides that I just stay to myself it is a sad world I'm glad I was able to live life when it was simpler and people where kinder stay strong Bruce
Hope you get better. I'm 31 with similar problems and am almost unable to function. I've found that physical therapy and excersise is the only way to reduce back/nerve pain. Hope you get help and are able to fly again!
Bruce I am one of the people who really appreciate your effort on this endevour. It is noble to witness your efforts against the authority. When it comes down to it, the only way to win against the enemy is to join the enemy. Run for council. You may be surprised as to the scope of corruption you will be dealing with just as a citizen. Try it and see what happens
It's been tried and failed. The culture within council is so toxic that any "lone voice" gets silenced and their position is made untennable. Braver folk than I have run that gauntlet and been spat out in pieces.
Bruce is not going to be able to do that, when his illness is effectively restricting what he can do on a daily basis. Elections are every 3 years, so that's too far away.
Even if someone who sided with Bruce's plight got voted in, it is still just under 3 years away.
If the Council doesnt care about public opinion, what makes you think they'd care about what even thousands of people from other countries think?
We can't legally fly either. We just do it anyway. Nothing we can do for NZ from the US. You're absolutely dead wrong implying we don't care. Adding blame to your viewers will just turn them away. I get your peeved and beside yourself. Just fly.
Pretty sure he is saying the council don't care. Not the overseas flyers.
@@stuartsmith945I mean he presumably asked for people to email the council in one of his recent past videos. The hobby already being kinda dead to me for what I think are similar reasons means I rarely catch the content anymore so I am somewhat out of the loop. He does say in this video he expected more support which I'm not saying I would or wouldn't have with more details but it is a bit unwise to place blame on viewers for the very reason that the OP mentions.
I'm not even sure it is my place to be emailing elected officials in whole other nations to complain let aline expect them to take my non citizen opinion into account, additionally I'm so disappointed in the current state of politics I don't even contact my own representatives anymore as nothing I say will mean a thing as I cannot realistically challenge their likelihood of re-election.
Unfortunately model flying is such a niche hobby, that almost no one outside the hobby will have any idea of what thw council does.
Is moving a possibility? Flight is your life. Don't let them stop you.
That is not the answer!
As someone who flies at a club about 50 minutes drive (with one of the biggest RC airstrips in the country) from Tokoroa there are many places he can fly if he chose to. The thing with Tokoroa is that it is incredibly cheap to live there, its a tiny town with low rents. We all have to be members of MFNZ and have our wings badges to fly. We just do it. Also have a big park flying scene in my area (you don’t need to be a member to do that).
'The hobby', and you are a big part of getting into it, helped me deal with so much struggle in life. To see this happen to you breaks my heart. Feel hugged, sir! Sending you wishes from the other side of the globe.
It’s not that people don’t care Bruce, it’s that a lot of us are going through the same struggles in life that you are. Poor health, loss of a loved ones, worries of money… don’t take it to heart 😉
I’m truly sorry it has come to this, Bruce. I agree the world has become difficult to understand and I hope you find peace in any way you can. Remember all you’ve accomplished over the years. Even if you feel defeated now, nobody can ever take away all the good you have done. Best wishes for moving forward, I hope you’re flying again soon!
The WEFfers have become difficult to understand.
Ignore, resist, challenge, rebut, stop feeding the enemy.
We are entering a new age, time for the parasites to go. This is OUR world.
I feel your pain Bruce it’s the same here in the UK. Having flown RC since the age of 14 and now aged 76. The hobby has changed oh so much unfortunately not for the good but financial gain and control for others.
Don’t go. You have a huge amount of knowledge please continue to share it. Most people don’t care about watching people fly. They come because you are a beacon of truth and a guy that’s been around the block that has the smarts to help folks.
Bruce, you were one of the first channels on CZcams that I watched about RC airplanes. Fight for this!
Bruce I’ve watched you since I was 12. To me you are the most honest person in this hobby and I just want to say thank you for getting me into everything from pulse jets to planes and FPV drones.
Shame on the bureaucrats for making this so difficult for you of all people. I will try and continue to write to these cretins as well.
Thats criminal , we love you Bruce , you are the grandfather of fpv, the one who largely brought rc/fpv to the internet . Tell us what we can do . The fpv community needs you . Not a good fit for the fpv world ? Thats bullocks . You are the champion of fpv . There are thousands of people who would have never started flying without you .
Apologies that I've not done this before - but I have just e-mailed; so we'll see if this yields any response. As others have said, you've built up a great channel which you can rightly be proud. The videos of antics at the airfield have certainly brightened my days when everything has "turned to custard". Thanks for doing all that you do.
Sue them Bruce! Sue them! Not for money, but for court judgement ordering them to follow the law. I'll help pay!
This is New Zealand Tim, we all have the same rules and its not an issue for the rest of us... My club is 50 minutes drive away, and we are on council land will full support - they even cut our outfield. I can even walk down to my local park and happily have a fly (as many of us do). He has created this issue all for himself. Tokoroa is a tiny town and has probably the clearest drone/rc policy of any council in the country for an obvious reason.
Hang in there, Bruce. You have many thousands of fans. When I bought my first quadcopter many years ago, I found both of your channels and learned a great deal. I considered writing an e-mail, but didn't feel that someone in the U.S. would hold any sway with the council. The council simply doesn't care and have taken vendetta against you. I feel that you have a home and wife to protect and going rogue is not possible. Honestly, I would have jumped through whatever hoops were put in front of me just to keep flying with my "friends" and make all appearances of compliance. I mainly fly mid-long range and the vast areas in my state simply provide obscurity and anonymity with little chance of raising any awareness of my activity. I will, however, comply with remote ID and obtain any FAA licenses necessary to maintain all appearances of compliance just to keep flying. Thanks for the inspiration and knowledge that you have shared. I hope that you will find a way to continue flying at Tokoroa Airfield as you have made it famous.
I am going to start teaching a certified course shortly in the construction sector, its called applying common sense to everyday tasks. Its a risk based assessment on everyday decisions.
I am truly grateful for all you have done Bruce, you have done above and beyond. You have reached way beyond NZ, the whole world is listening to what you say.
This is what the council wanted, for you to give up. I think that you should challenge them and not let them get away with it. Drones and model aircraft now, but what next ? It is important to make a stand against the council. We are all behind you.
Jerry
All the best from the UK - yes its a shame some people are wrapped up in them selves - God Bless you and in the words of Winston Never, Never , Never give up!
The council can't make up rules to grief one person.
It can and it does. Councillors only care about who is handing them backhanders. They most most people will keep voting for them no matter what.
Yes; 100% (In Australia we have had corrupt councils be investigated). This council can do nothing to Bruce and I hope he turns it around on them and gets legal advice.@@ptonpc
@@ptonpchow do they enforce rules that don’t exist?
When we have joined the resistance, our silence is a sign of strength and resolve. You have not been let down, but need to be patient.
This behaviour of continually restricting the hobby until it becomes too hard is a world wide phenomenon, unfortunately. You have, however, played an important part in raising awareness. You also had the opportunity to love a hobby when it was free and enjoyable - it's a privilege a new generation will be denied.
Hang in there man! I'm still working on an email. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is still planning to email that council. Maybe everyone thought you didn't need much help with this case since you're clearly in the right. That council shouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Makes me quite unhappy to see you feeling this way Bruce. I've been watching your videos since about 2009 so well over a decade and you've been the most vocal, principled and consistently positive person about this hobby despite all the hardships along the way and there have been many! I can only say thank you for everything you've done and I wish I could have done more to help you over the years. Make no mistake though at this point for people like me, the videos are more about "you" then the "flying" so whatever you decide to do, I'd hate to see you disappear. You will be an enormous loss whether people realise it right now or not. Thanks Bruce.
It reminds me of our local city that passed a law requiring us to purchase licenses for our bicycles in the 60's.
Our town only had about 4000 people total. Every kid knew who's bike was whose so what was the point?
Us kids didn't bother getting the registrations, we knew we could out pedal any fat old cop that dared to try and catch us.
We didn't lock our Stingray bikes up either!
In the end we won by not complying. The cops knew it was too much work to enforce this ordinance without our cooperation and they also knew if they did manage to pinch a bike or two away from us kids that they would have hell to pay once our parents found out!
Brucy mate. You have so many people behind you supporting you. Never forget that. If you need to take time off to rest. Do that. Rest up. But remember you have people all over the world who love what you do and who care deeply about you.
Also if you ever want to move to Australia to retire to get away from the drama queens in NZ. I know a few Queenslanders who'll be more than happy to help out.
What a crock. Strength in numbers to go after that council.
You're an inspiration Bruce. If it means anything to you, you're the kind of person that makes me know that I'm not alone, that the world should and can be better, and there are kindred spirits out there. I'm 34 and even I feel like I'm not meant for this time. I'm not an angel of course, but I'm old school and think we should have some personal responsibility and look out for mates, probably why you've always resonated with me. I protested overzealous COVID lockdowns and mandates and that made me realize just what it's like for no one (seemingly) to care against the might of government overreach. Apples vs Oranges but I know a similar feeling to what you've described in this video. I don't know what happens from here but there's a lot of people who do care about you. I'm a random person on the internet and you've got a friend in me.
Sounds like you need a friendly farmer to give you permission to fly on his private non airfield land and stuff the council, & councils like this need to be reminded that they answer to the public and ignore the voting public at their own peril & dismissal from office.
Agree 100%! My MAC threw me under the bus a couple of years ago for exercising my right to medical autonomy. So, I ditched both the club and the MAAA. I fly from private properties with the owner's permission.
Yes, that sounds great but in reality, for most, it's not the flying alone it's the clubmen ship and comradery that keeps the hobby engaging.
Flying alone is really boring as batshit.
Been there done that .
And any farmer or property owner worth their salt would probably steer clear because of possible legal and financial problems.
Its all great till it turns to shite.
@@ScatManAust 90% of the clubs in NZ are on farm land without issues...
Yes , till something goes wrong.
Thats not to say it will, just saying when things come down to money, property damage, personal injury, personal and professional friendships, things can get ugly.
Like the old saying there is no friends in business @@mikewilson6019
We love you Bruce! Thank you for being the icon of humanity & decency that you are. It’s not you brother 😢 It’s them. You are in my prayers and thoughts. Much love mate.
Just get loads of people to over comply and log thousands of flights with the council
That would never happen, very few locals support Bruce’s nonsense.
@@defyentwhat a terrible comment to make to someone that is already clearly distressed.
@@wtb567 Terrible or not, it's objectively true. He's obnoxious, and then plays the victim when people don't support him. He's a pity addict who's playing off of your emotions and lack of knowledge around his history.
sorry to say but he is correct.@@wtb567
Hi Bruce I got the same response letter through early last morning. Gutted to see you in this position. I hoped we'd make a difference from the tone of the letter at least we annoyed them a little. But that doesn't help you. I've really admired your stance for the hobby. Will miss your antics on the field with Bill and Ron. You've helped me get through many English winters and summers!! I have my fingers crossed they develop a conscience. They got the tower then you disgusting. Your local politicians should feel very guilty, unfortunately they lost the ability to listen and provide good governance.
Bruce, I wrote the council on your behalf, and got stonewalled and lied to both times. I'm sorry for your situation. I agree with your views, and wish there was more I could do. Thank you for all you have done.
i have done the same for friends trust me when they want any help they don't get it now, it took me 60 years to wakeup, keep up a great channel and don't feel down about life, that's what they want to happen go out and fly drones and don't upload the footage on CZcams, as i don't trust anyone anymore there always someone out wanting to make a name for themselves and to many are two faced
We have lost control over our governments. There is only one thing left we can do. I am getting awfully tired of waiting for people to find the testicular fortitude to fix the issue.
Amen - Our politicians are walking all over us. Albo in Australia spends more time out of the country than in it and hides from the public after the majority of people disagree with his policies
Only because we have let then take control.
@@WayneCook306 I absolutely agree!
Where do we even start? I've been trying to spread word with informational video links and stuff but what do we do? Band together with our arms linked? I don't know enough people that care enough to try to make a difference.
@@228supercow I hear ya brother. We can fill a football stadium to standing room only but cant get that many people to fight for their rights or even their children's wellbeing.
Thanks God for ppl like you Bruce, I really mean it. You have been there for me (and so so many others) for years, you are true legend.
Hard to say what I would do in your shoes, maybe it's worth just ignoring them
Bruce, I have been away from the hobby myself for several months now. It’s definitely not the same as it was five years ago. I want to thank you for being an advocate across the world and not just in New Zealand. I think you also have CZcams working against you because I haven’t seen this video until today. I think it was even missing from my subscriptions. Don’t delete the channel, there’s still a lot of useful information here. I’m sorry for everything that is happening to you and you’re in my prayers.
So sad to hear, Bruce. I think you will rebound somewhat in the coming days. We all look up to you and wish you well. As you say, too bad some people just don’t have that in them. Is it the absolute irruption of absolute power?
Sorry Bruce. I didn’t even get a reply back from them. I live in Colorado. Our city banned all RC’s within city limits. The only field to fly at is about 25 miles away. So I haven’t flown them in 2 years. At 70, I feel like a second class citizen sometimes. I still have my pic above my desk. Of me holding the pic of the airfield flight tower, standing in front on our 14,000’ mtn behind me. 👍 Be proud of what you have stood for and all the info and entertainment you have provided for all of us out here. At our age, it’s truely sad to see how the world has changed. We thank You !!! 👍👍👍
Hey Bruce, so sorry to hear what you're going through, being born physically disabled I kind of understand where you're coming from, I've had to fight all my life for basic rights, so whatever you do, DO NOT GIVE UP, continue the fight, and don't back down. 👍
Bruce - please give us an email script in your video Description, including the email to send it to, and the Subject line, and I'm sure more of us will do it in a heartbeat. I wanted to in your previous video, but was having such a bad day fighting my own fires, that downloading that PDF and finding the councillor's emails, and writing the email got put in the "too hard" basket. Make it easy for us - we'll do it!!
Also - I'd love it if you addressed the Council's current copy-paste reply to the emails that have already been sent to them is addressed. Let's put some heat on them!
Remember he is flying at a full sized airfield. He can easily meet the conditions - he is just being stubborn and using this for clicks.
One of the council's stipulations was for a pilots licence, not a generic full manned licence but for a drone, UAV one! I asked where I could get such a licence but had no reply! Is there such a licence available in NZ? How do you qualify for one, how much does it cost and how long does it take?
Asking for a friend.
PS. I'm still stunned how the council can have property privately owned by the council, the airfield.Rate payers employ the council to administer, a council can't own property and say it's not public?
There is no such thing as a drone license in Nz
Seems to me the answer is:
a) rejoin MFNZ to be able to fly LoS at the airfield (or FPV with a spotter if available)
b) Fly FPV for your own pleasure and don't publish the videos ... noone's coming to your house to watch your Whoop around the garden.
Funnily enough Bruce this is exactly what I do - I barely ever have a spotter ... so I just keep it under wraps and keep myself to myself.
Comply - play the game, take away their power over you .. and then do whatever you like behind the camera.
Square pegs are who makes the world a better place. Dont give up, Bruce!
I feel for you Bruce, I really do. All I can say is never give up, some how, some where, some thing will come right. Stay strong, stay positive.
Bruce i have been selfish by not doing this for you I'm sorry.
I first discovered you in 2020 and your videos have helped me .
The 18th of April 2020 i lost my wife to pancreatic cancer and i now struggle to leave the house,pay the bills and have any fun.
You have been one of my mainstays on CZcams that takes me away from this shitty world for a while each week.
I've just been on trial for having strong morals like yourself.
Believe it or not, i was on trial because people kept letting their dogs use my garden/front door as a toilet.
We got married on our doorstep with a government approved emergency wedding during Covid-19. If you had a terminal illness, you were allowed.
Five days later we lost her so now it's myself and our 11 year old daughter.
You have the same look in your eyes as i do everyday in this video please don't give up.
Could you get say Ken Heron or Originaldobo to help spread the word?
Bruce, stop being a legend in your own mind and just get out and fly like you have doing for years. Just stop harassing them and they will forget you ever existed.
I concur.
This exactly. Half this issue is that of your own making tbh Bruce. If you've kept your head down, stayed quiet and just kept on flying at the airfield, they would never have noticed.
I've followed you and subbed for literally best part of 10 years, even though Xjet has become more of a rant channel than a flying channel. I'll admit I never got a chance to send an email to your council, I work a 65 hour week, I didn't have time, but as others state, why are the council going to listen to someone in the UK way outside their voting area. They won't, I can't effect their chances of re-election. I'm no threat in the slightest.
Being accused of not caring about the hobby really stabbed me in the back Bruce. Way to go to anger some of your backers. Have I tried, yes of course I have. I've emailed my own MPs, the CAA in Britain etc and complained about all of these regulations. What happened... stone wall silence, most didn't even acknowledge the letters. The few that did reply basically said UAV pilots are a minority and they really don't care, because I don't have enough power to threaten their position.
I'm still flying, way out in the hills in the North of Scotland, easily 50 miles from the nearest cop, noone knows I'm here, there's no data signal to give my location away, and I keep safe by checking in with the RAF to make sure there's no low flying exercises that day.
Keep your head down and no-one will bother you.
Unfortunately you decided to poke the bear, and you're paying the price now by having your livlihood being taken away from you.
what he said
Not even "stay quiet" but fight the fight with tolerance and cooperation.
Every interaction I've seen with regard to your campaign with authorities has a very aggressive demeaning overtone.
Noone will negotiate when your facing a person with full body armour and a baseball bat and ready to demean their character.
I've followed your channel for over a decade and loved seeing a new video pop up with building tips and new products. I switched off when you took the negative fork in the road.
@@roadsweeper1I'm busy, I can't help you, but here's a long rant.
I'm grateful for all you've done for the hobby, and educating me. So sorry I didn't make the time / priority to email your council when you asked. Please don't give up. Another path may rev deal itself.
I had the same response bruce and I’m gutted that enough people didn’t want to get involved by writing a few emails about this and supporting you
See ya Bruce, been a hell of a ride and sad to see it end like this.
I suggest you just get a US license. Take the TRUST test through dronetrust and get the recreational license. The letter doesn't say it has to be a NZ license. How's that for turning the tables on them?
Could get a UK one it's free.
@@womble321 Good call! Flyer ID, free and good for 5 years.
Good call! Flyer ID: free and good for 5 years.
I've been subscribed for 15 years Bruce. You do a hard job and more importantly you stick to your guns. You helped me through some tough times, keep telling us how we can help. In the meantime I'm so glad your health hasn't been the thing to cut you down, we're glad to see you still fit. Maybe just join MFNZ and you can fight from within?
Losing a few fingers from Poking the Bear are ya????
I have in front of me a 10" x quad with naze f/c, afro 20a,s, dyc,s for go. It was spoken too by Baseflight. and empowered by a 1300,3s. It gave me much joy and a stepping stone. This would not have happened but for you. Life moves on and there have been many joys, but for this one again ...thank you.
Whatever floats your boat. I have been following his channel for a long time and really appreciates that there is at least someone else that questions all these authoritarian baseless rules and regulations. And i actually like his passion
Don't give up! You have more value than any council member. The wind will return to your sails.
Bruce, I've been watching your videos for 10 years now. You have inspired me in so many ways. I really appreciate all you have done for the FPV community. Depression is no good mate, take care of yourself!
You're an inspiration to me after my late brother, who, like you, was an engineer, a tinkerer, and someone who always believed in fighting for what was right. So please don't give up on this hobby, even though it may appear that you didn't get the support against your council that you expected.
I'm guessing that this lack of support may have been the result of people either not having the time to promptly write to the council (due to life circumstances), or they may not have had a clear idea as to what to say. Or perhaps it was apathy, and the belief that a fight with public servants (i.e. the council) was bound to be futile 🤷🏻♂️
In my case, I prepared a draft, but was unable to get on with it, due to other issues I had to deal with. I was also deterred after reading comments from others (as I recall) that their emails were being blocked. Anyway, my apologies for not writing. For now, I wish you the best for your health. The world really needs more people like you! ✊💪🤞✌️
Bruce, I’ve never seen any drone police in any of your hundreds of videos…. Just keep doing what you do and don’t worry about those clowns
Ahh man no way 😢😢😢love you and your passion for the hobby Bruce. You got me going with the clouds fly and then the skipper haha you probably dont remember but you helped me and i always watched your vids ❤❤❤i have had a bad time of it lately and not been flying but just recently got my mojo back 🔥🔥🔥i was so happy to see you still doing what you love but so disheartened at what the hobby has become 😢i have never been in a position to support any yt channels but i happily pay a sub fee for tv i hardly ever watch 😂😂😂well it is going to be coming to you now my friend. It isnt much but i hope it helps a little each month, what is the best way for you to get it patreon or become a member here?Keep being you my friend you are an amazing person and we need more Bruce's in this world ❤chin up my friend it will get better soon i hope and if it doesnt well f them and fly in a field 🔥🔥🔥cant believe that bloke, he isnt your friend so i wont call him one. 👊🏼
It saddens me to hear your struggle. I hope you find a way to get them flying in the right direction soon.
I hope you can get through this Bruce . Best of luck
71 yrs.old here, can relate. Bought a Dji Mini 2 three yrs, ago so I would have something to do . Never had it outside the house yet.. Winter time in Texas now,cold an windy, Maybe later. Retired longhaul trucker.
Oh cmon xjet !! My selfish reason to not write to your council is just not knowing them well, and because im so far away from NZ it gave the impression that my email won't do much.
I have the upmost respect for your fight its inspiring ! I think its our civil duty to fight for our rights and kick the oppressors in the ...
Just send it!!!
I've been regulated out of the hobby too, Bruce. I refuse to get any RID and put myself at risk in the crap area I live in. FPV is the only thing that helps me with my disability. Now that the FAA has regulated that away from me, I am falling back to where I was before I started FPV; it is not a good place. I will be lucky to last a year without FPV.
I have fought for this hobby as well since the FAA spoke of getting rid of 336. That was about the time I got back into RC. I left because of the horrible people and now I am being forced out because of the weak, horrible, narcissistic people that have no balls, empathy or common sense.
Millennials and gen Z care about two things: 1. Themselves. 2. Causing problems for everyone.
As for the AMA members and the like, they fall into the same category.
And then there is nearly every single youtuber in the RC aviation and FPV spectrum; they all licked the boots of the tyrants and got their "sweet little RID modules".
Bottom line Bruce... Us Boomers and GenX hobbyists (the real hobbyists) that are the few, the proud, and the true to ourselves and everyone else are the only ones suffering at the hands of the sellouts, narcissists and tyrants.
M😮y thoughts are with you Bruce. I hope you can get through this Bruce
We are with do you Bruce, from the uk . I've watched you for years first quad build ,can't thank you enough
Hi from Hastings. I gave followed your channel for quite awhile. Your videos on the AX110 were really helpful when I built and flew my one. Dispite suffering an eye injury that has left me legally blind, I still forllow your posts with what sight I have left. I fly my mini helicopters with my grandson in our garage. You have so much lnowledge and experience and you have an ability to pass that knowledge on with ease. I understand the disappointment overa friend’s actions, however there are many people like me you have helped. May I encourage you to hang in there. Kind regards. Paul
Politicians and sycophants can be counted upon to act in their own interests.
What is the punishment for breaking the Council's rules?
Deportation to Australia
@@josh3771Transported to the West Island 😂.
I'm not a lawyer, fwiw
Their drone policy: "Offenders can be trespassed and/or prosecuted under the Public Places Bylaw 2017 and/or the Property, Nuisance and Maintenance Bylaw 2017."
Public Places Bylaw is probably now the 2022 version. Apart from trespass and a flying ban, enforcement comes from the Local Government Act 2002. Let's see... actually pretty limited. Unlikely they could legally seize the drone, trespass, and a ban looks to be the worst of it, though maybe a fine to remedy damage/nuisance.
Such a shame that now the world is me, me, me and F you. If john comes to the airfield again I hope he is totally ignored by all others flyers. He is a sad man.
Thank you for all you have done for me ! In my prayers ! Wish I could do something to help , you are way smarter than I am , sorry we let you down sir !
Ive always enjoyed your videos Bruce. I hope this is not the end . You are a champion of the rc world and always keep us model flyers informed of whats going on. Ive been flying rc planes here in Ireland since May 1986 and its a great hobby for sure. But governments are destroying and spoiling everything for us and taking away our enjoyment of something we love dearly and which is a big part of our lives. All through the years , from the 1950s up until recently , model flyers have always took responsibility and looked after their own safety when operating their model aircraft. Why can they the governments of the world not just leave us all in peace to get on with enjoying our hobby. We didn't need any of these rules and restrictions in the past and we certainly dont need them now in our lives. Its all about control and money and Bruce you have always spoken the truth and let the people know how we all are having the wool pulled over our eyes. Its just utterly depressing of the type of world we are living in now. We have never done anyone harm and our hobby of flying model aeroplanes is a good honest wholesome and innocent pursuit that also lets people of all ages take up what is a very unique hobby. I hope Bruce that we do see you and the boys flying again at the airfield. I really do.
If something like this happened to other sports/spare time activities like football, hockey or something similar the media and society would go nuts
Soooo sorry. Go and fly, my friend ! Empty your head of this sh... Just enjoy. ❤
Stay strong Bruce!
I’m glad you finally admitted that you’re a professional victim. Funny how the rest of the country has no issues flying rc. Good luck to you mate. Take care.
Personal beef? Did Bruce step on your dick?
Historically, "professional victims" have been those who fight tyranny...for themselves yes, but also to the benefit of the compliant and complacent sheep plodding along to the slaughterhouse.
Bruce is an educator, an entertaining and knowledgeable one...who does his research (sharing it unselfishly).
Sadly, it's mostly taken for granted...or dismissed/ignored by the good (compliant) sheep distracted with their pursuit of "wealth," comfort, convenience, and entertainment.
Bruce's battle is a microcosm of the Western world's fall...it's descent into the intended serfdom of the "conspiracy theory" Great Reset. This isn't the first great reset in history...
Bruce is a proverbial "canary in the coal mine," a harbinger of the "frog in the kettle" deception most live.
That (from the beginning) deception? It's a 3D evil...Distract, Divert, DIVIDE (and conquer); to which we (seem addicted to) succumb.
What a blessing COVID has been...revealing the "success" of that deception. There's an old hymn, "Trust and Obey"...the Wisdom and Truth of "fearing" God alone.
Instead, we have vividly seen that admonition applied to government alone.
Don't surrender Bruce...it's always a remnant of "professional victims" who've borne the burden of fighting tyranny; keeping the hope of freedom and liberty alive.
To your detractors, "Good luck to you mate. Take care."
The email reply I had said it is their policy that states you must have wings!
Is council policy the same as a by law?
Is policy the same as a lawful regulation?
Might be worth checking out the legality of their ‘policy’
Parliament allows powers for local councils in Local Government Act 2002. This particular Local council has the Public Places Bylaw 2022 that does specifically mention operating according to their drone policy. Not unusual to do this - esp for a situation they might want to revisit soon, delegate to their bureaucracy or keep out of the full glare of the proper democratic process.
he is operating to their drone policy - the published one. The one they're enforcing upon him has not been published and is unable to be seen by anyone. He even did a video where he went to the front desk of the council and the staff there were unable to find what they had referred to in their own letter...@@eturnerx
❤❤ from California, stay in there, Bruce, do not go down the rabbit hole
Be strong Bruce, keep fighting, we are here supporting you! Those who bully you should be ashamed.
At 76 I discovered many years ago, like you have now, that the world is full of users. It's the reason I have only two friends/acquaintances, was four but two died in recent years, even though I am a confident and outgoing person. A friend of my wife's, after she meet me for the first time, asked why I didn't have a much larger social circle, to which I replied " because the majority of people are not worth getting to know". I personally think the majority of shallow, self obsessed and selfish people that make up our societies today deserve the worst excess's that the talked of 'reset' will bring..
Before you potentially abuse me, don't you think you should hear my side of the story? I have an equally debilitating nerve disorder as Parkinson's, but you don't know about that okay-about a month ago. Bruce told one of the other very beloved guys at the field a very serious pack of lies that resulted in me getting a very abusive phone call that put me in a very bad place for the better part of three days. The beloved person rang me the next day and apologised emphatically, but the damage had been done, and from that four weeks ago, Bruce destroyed the atmosphere at the field because of what he did. He was told he needed to call me to sort it out and instead of giving me a ring to apologise. His response to the people that spoke to him was his typical narcissistic brushoff, and not so pleasant comments so I waited for three weeks. I tried to call him. He wouldn't take my calls, so I put a takedown request in.
Any Normal person at that point would have contacted me and said "Hey dude, WTF?" And we could have sorted it there and then and I would've removed the takedown request straight away, but Bruce being Bruce decided the best course of action was not to talk to me because that meant he had to eat humble pie, instead, he came here, and he started to make things worse by dragging my name through the dirt even more, so I put a second takedown request in, but not before I had tried to ring him again and again, he would not answer his phone. I have since removed the second takedown request because I don't want to see his channel shutdown. However, do you think Bruce gives a flying fuck about anybody else's health and the damage he does to other people when he lies like he does? You guys just see what he wants you to see you. Don't see the damage He does off camera, you're not here in NZ dealing with the fallout. Every time he has a totally unnecessary argument with one of the local authorities over something he's usually usually brought on himself just like he brought these takedown requests on himself.. he could have totally avoided all of this drama, but because he thrives on drama, he decided to make it worse.
In this case Bruce is suffering karma as a result of his own actions, I don't wish any harm on him. I was the first person he told about his Parkinsons because most likely he knew I would understand better than most because I've had my own very debilitating nerve disorder for a lot longer than he's had Parkinsons I've spent numerous weeks in hospital hooked up to a Academy infusion because of stress from things like reading comments like yours for example, anything that triggers the nervous system (as Bruce has found out with Parkinson's) put your body in seven kinds of hell. Bruce to this day still has not apologised for the damage. He did a month ago, however I'm told he's going to talk to me because he knows he needs to, and I'm not going to be the one who has his channel shutdown. He could have prevented all of this, but instead, he chose to make drama out of everything and make it worse because drama gets clicks. so I would appreciate it if you would spend a bit more time reading the comments where I've already gone over this 1000 times with people and explained to them the whole story like I have to you now. I didn't deserve the treatment I got from Bruce, i've also told him repeatedly for the last eight years and it's been repeated to him on a weekly basis by all the other guys at the field. He is not to video me under any circumstances unless I give him my express permission at the time and this is all because of my nerve disorder I don't want him sticking the camera in my face. I don't want him making me looking like an idiot. I don't want to be in his videos. I go to the field to hang out with the guys not to be cannon fodder for his channel. Bruce has never respected anybody's requests for privacy and I've let it go for eight years even though it's put me through hell a few times having to deal with the stress of him and his camera not to mention the stress of all the other drama he's caused which has ended up affecting all of us, but all you hear is Bruce crying Wolf and complaining, how nobody locally helps him. Maybe we would if he had a bit more respect for all of us.
CL flying is still yours to enjoy. =)
My heart goes out to you. I hope you find a way to fill the void that these unfair rules and people have created.
Hi Bruce, As you have said that membership of MFNZ is not required under CAA Part 101. what it says is:
A) is the holder of, or is under the direct supervision of the holder of, a pilot qualification issued by an approved person or organisation; or
(B) is under the direct supervision of a person appointed to give instruction in the operation of remotely piloted aircraft by an approved person or organisation; or (C) is the holder of a pilot licence or certificate issued under Part 61 or Part 149.
So you can still fly at the airfield under "direct supervision." E.G. Ron who I believe is a MFNZ member. They can't prosecute you for following CAA Part 101 rules. Let them point out to a magistrate or judge where the requirement of membership of MFNZ is stated in the CAA Part 101 rules.
Very sad to hear news about your situation. Keep fighting and stay strong 💪. I feel like you are my grandfather every time i watch your videos.
Been regular viewer since 2016, was 19yo at that time, when our country introduced local regulations. Just year before that, i bought myself first 3D extra style airplane. Been learning 3D tricks like knife edge, harrier, hover, KE spin, etc. Was hyped and motivated. Participated in learning sessions with chief of local RC modelling club. Year later he advised me to put personal information sticker on my plane. For a reminder... Sticker was free to print, no renewal fees and no sticker was required for models lighter that 500 grams. Also no licensing requirements back then. I didn't put sticker on my plane, because shortly after i came across something very depressing... That was EASA introduced regulations document. Reading this document was so depressing and unreal. In year 2017 model flying was actually completely banned because rules were not sorted (excuse). I still went on field flying my 1.7 kg airplane lol. How dare i, naughty boy 🤪. Later in 2018 after doing a deeper research on regulations i discovered that there was no distinction drawn between model aircraft and drones. Been watching rotor riot episodes and been blaming drone users for regulations. I thought drones were as simple that you just plug battery in and take off. Then I 've build myself 6inch quad and realized there is a huge difference between DJI style camera drones and DIY quads. This really changed my look on the hobby.
Then because of only bad news like RID announcement, military use of hobby drones, EU import duty threats, digital markets act with possible import ban, China export ban, etc. i have been massively stockpiling parts i don't actually need yet, but just to feel safe in this hobby because i have plans to regularly fly for the next 20 years or so. My planes now collect dust because FPV quads offer better flying experience, are much more portable, don't need airfield and are faster to get you in the air. I still didn't obtain any drone related licenses. I don't have motivation to get any. The future of hobby is uncertain. No new youngsters in the hobby. Main reason are regulations. Specifically obstacles like license and things like BVLOS being illegal. Youngsters rather prefer gaming and most i know do vaping, drugs or alcohol. We will soon have marihuana legalized. I have a feeling the world turned upside down. People like you and Louis R. give me faith that there are still people with common sense in this globe.
My motivation to build a career is at low levels because of tyranny laws like drone law. I have studied for mechanical technician. Why? Soon to own CNC machine or any other powered tool you will have to register it and to operate lawnmower will require having a license. That is not conspiracy theory. NYC plan is to start background checks for 3D printer purchases. I can't imagine living in nanny state, owning nothing and be happy (sad). I would rather commit. Such tyrant laws castrate boys remotely. Arnold S. was right about raising generation of wimps. Men are not men anymore. Very sad. I also don't wanna make kids who would suffer in world full of tyrants, Kevins and Karens. I hope and pray things will get better and that there is still light shining at the end of the tunnel. You know we say "hope dies last". For me doing rogue flying is the only way for now. Fly safe and responsible 👍
Bruce, don't make your viewers responsible for your problems. You live in a country where you have allowed the weakest among you to make the rules, and you all continue to vote for that. Me not taking action because you asked for it, when you did this to yourself (literally) is not the same as me not caring about the hobby.
Personally, I care a great deal about the hobby. I build and fly, and am on the executive board of my local RC club. A club that is bringing many new younger people into this hobby every year.
Sorry about your plight, but you did this to yourself.
How the hell is he responsible for the council creating fake rules?!
@@airadaimagery692"How am I responsible" is the real question. You must have missed something.
@@SomeGuyInSandy no body ever said anything about you being responsible. My question had nothing to do with you, it refers to what your talking about. Forget I even approached you, your obviously ate up with self centered issues.
@@airadaimagery692 Hahaha, Listen to you... You simping for mr Simpson and all offended by my original comment! Now you're calling an end because you didn't like me correcting your ignorant response... Laughable.
In the U.K. the ombudsman can investigate councils actions on it seems a wider basis than New Zealand, however I believe that maladministration as well as committee decisions can be challenged via the NZ ombudsman ? Surely the lies and absolute maladministration of the workings of the council must leave some area for challenge via the NZ ombudsman ?
It seems so corrupt otherwise !
TTFN 👋
His wings have not been clipped by anyone other than himself.
@@defyent 100% the rest of us are happily flying at clubs and parks in NZ.
Bruce, the only suggestion I have is comtinue to fly safely as you have been, regardless of what the council say, as long as you follow the CAA rules I don't see an issue.
If the council want to pursue a legal case against you, then so be it, they will look silly in court when you show them you are following the CAA rules.
If not we'll bake a RC plane shaped cake with a file inside and send it to where ever they lock you up!! 😁😲😳👍
I share the same feelings as others in that I felt an email from another nation might seem a bit off base, but I very much sympathize with you're predicament. Being that there is no actual law backing up the council's letter, would there be grounds to sue the council for infringement on your rights, harassment, or similar? Maybe a letter to the council from a lawyer would fix this.
Just go out there and fly
Push the issue
Non violent protest
Channel your inner Ghandi
Thanks!