Your Social Security Card is Insecure
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- The Social Security card and number explained.
Special Thanks:
Stephen P. Morse, PhD. stevemorse.org
Ralph Gross, Postdoctoral Fellow, Carnegie Mellon University. peexlab.com
Alessandro Acquisti, Professor, Carnegie Mellon University
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bold of you to assume that my library card is less important than my social security card
knowledge is very important.
As a fellow introvert, I concur
Daniel Valdez agreed
*yes.*
Facts
A funny story. I was born in 1947. I got my SS card in 1965 when I started working. One day, years later, I was working in a shop that asked for SSANs on checks. A fellow came in, wrote a check, and when I asked for his SSAN, it was one digit off mine. He'd gotten his in the same office, the same day I got mine.
Cool
what are the chances of that??
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@@Mason_8r small but not improbable, the best kind of chances
@@Mason_8r doesnt seems like a 80 years old guy so VERY small
''We don't want no national card to track us , dammit'' , they're going to be pissed when they hear about phones , credit cards , bank cards etc.
You gotta love America, the land of taking the worst possible route to achieve virtually the same goal.
The fun part was when I fist immigrated to the USA and being denied a loan because they said my SSN was only a few months old so I didn't qualify. I had to then go through a whole silly process of proving I was an adult.
now, before we give you this loan, are you SURE you're not an infant?
Banker: ok you want loan?
You: yes
Banker: how do i know your not 3 kids in a trenchcoat?!
"Hi I'm an adult can I have money please"
"Idk man this says you're three months old"
I mean, your CZcams account is only 13 years old, so your only 13 right? Im just an infant who’s 2.
Whoa hold on, we have no evidence that up to this point you haven’t been a minor because your record has only been made a few months ago, we can’t have infants getting loans can we? Lol
"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution." - Russian proverb
+Vito C In the UK my social security number was promised to NOT reveal any personal facts! In Sweden I have 73-08-29 0514? Its the year 1973 I was born, the month 08, the day I was born 29 th, the time 0514 in the morning? However the Swedish authorities doesnt harass their citizens and most Political decisions/discussions is open information for the people! The Swedes all together demanded the fluoride banned from their drinking water? Within a year they took it away! Despite politicians in the EU parliament refusing to let the Swedes drink their spring water tapped without poison! Now they demanded the GMO food banned from the Swedish food market!
Which is why gaffer tape is popular.
@Striker Orwell You, my friend, need to consult a doctor :-/
+P K To be called insane in a world of madness is a compliment. However those who knows me and read the comment above will notice its my usual sarcasm. Do you think our psychopathic leaders are sane by the way?
It depends on your definition of sanity, I'm afraid :-)
Ok, sometimes they could be less stupid, but that cannot be helped because statistics. Somebody has to be on the left of the Gauss curve in most social groups and politics is no exception. Apart from that, they couldn't be possibly any different than they are now.
My university used to use the SSN as the primary student ID number -- instead of generating a random number or simply using a sequential index. My university has also always had a _lot_ of foreign students, who did not have SSNs, so fake SSNs were generated and assigned to them. Of course it wasn't long before new students with real SSNs experienced conflicts with fake SSNs already in the database. I think it was the mid-2000-oughts when my university finally switched to generated student ID numbers.
Did you by chance go to the University of Michigan? Because this sounds a lot like the University of Michigan.
@@christopherleblanc160 Nope, I attended in the Western states.
My community college use to use SSN a log in for students, but then there was a data leak. They changed it to passwords and usernames now.
Yeah doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do but guess data leaks weren't as big a deal then
Kind of proves that the leaders of the higher learning institute that you went to may not have been the smartest people. Didn't raise a bell? Well you were taught by them.
Fun fact: if you're a twin like me, your social security numbers are most likely one digit apart.
Not so fun fact: this causes a lot of problems involving your SSN because they're not so easy to identify apparently. True story: my twin had insurance quotes that soared to the thousands. When he called the company, it was because they believed my twin and I were the same person (so all our traffic infractions added up together); they were only able to separate us based on our drivers' ID. I also got a call from a credit card company, saying that I had a pending balance when it was clearly my twin's account because I, myself, did not have a credit card. So yeah, the SSN system sucks for us
I knew a pair of twins that had a similar story involving the Fasfa (financial aid).
I can confirm this. My SSN and my twin's SSN is one digit off. Its kind of funny because my brother did not know his SSN off the top of his head, so my parents used to ask me for his SSN when we were younger. Or when he forgot his SSN.
It's not just twins. My sister's SSN is one off from mine, because when we were teenagers our mother realized she needed to do the paperwork and applied for both of us at the same time.
So basically, we have the absolute worst system for identification possible. Got it.
actually, most countries in africa have the worst system. If youre born, the government wont even know
@@barackobama5530 are you really compering america to african shithole countires?
@@fuzzX I mean the USA is quite the shit hole at places.
@Joaquín yep
@@barackobama5530 that's false
Somewhere Joe Generic is wondering why his identity is being used 24/7
@Bryan BD how much
@Bryan BD I love doing illegal activities wanna discuss fun illegal activities we do? You first.
Juan i click on accept to all terms and conditions to sign up for a Disney newsletter without actually reading the terms and conditions 😎
@@lanascunt I logged on to roblox without my parents permission
That SSN belonged to the secretary of the VP of a wallet manufacturing company. www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/misused.html
This makes me want to get a social insecurity card to show to people to let them know that sometimes I get anxious in crowds and conversations
it would just be the same numbers, backwords
3:12 love how landlords are represented by someone who's angry. No other defining features, they're just angry at you
(Un)fun fact: When Social Security was first introduced, some people would tattoo their social security numbers on their skin, fearing that they would end up forgeting it
@@nicolefischer1504 he didn't ask either
Imagine hooking up with someone and now they have your SSN
Mood
I’m so confused about these comments ⬆️
@@chanceadams5157 Same
The United States: A nation with a national ID card that isn't a national ID card, and a public health care system that isn't a public health care system. Great video! -John
vlogbrothers HIIIIIIIII JOHNNNN
vlogbrothers JOHN
.... :(
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Hi John! :D
In all my years I never remember a national ID card ever being a hot topic in any political campaign
It has been in UK. The idea was proposed and heavily rejected under Gordon Brown but kept cropping up for a short time around his election.
@@dcarbs2979 Do Brits not already have one?
@@jixer1956 Not one single centralised one, no. Many forms are accepted as ID (driving license, passport, bank card with some photo ID, bus pass, student pass, and a type of voluntary ID card). The latter is mostly for teenagers that want to have none of the above and used for alcohol and club entry. We also have the equivalent card (National Insurance / NI card) that simply has our number on it, but is not allowed for ID as it has no government issued photo. The number stays with you for life and identifies your tax, benefit and pay status to the government.
While it is important, it is not as much of a security risk as it is always used in conjunction with one of the other ID's. Nor do you ever *need* the physical card, as the number is cross-referenced on the government databases. I used it in a finance company to identify otherwise similar individuals (2 John Smiths with the same birthday, for example).
It's more known as a Voter ID or something similar
Well that's because most of the time they just call it a "Voter's ID". Which is literally just, an ID that proves you're a US citizen. It would have a photo of you, a unique number, and only be given to those who can prove their citizenship. It literally would just be a national ID card, something to prove that you are you. But, because politics, they always frame it has having to do with voting. Most of the people I know that are against it is because it would have this unique number, therefore making your votes much easier to track, and therefore potentially undermining the right to have your vote be private. It come sup pretty much every presidential election, they just don't talk about it between terms because it doesn't benefit the politics and would cost a lot of money to start a program like that.
I remember signing up at a temporary employment agency. They wanted the social security number for identification and didnt think twice about reading the number off out loud in a crowded room to get your attention that they were ready for an interview.
"You can always depend on Americans to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other options"
Winston Churchill
@@seanshin1615 Ehhhh.... Not true. Theres no record of him saying the quote.
Replace "americans" with "any person, anywhere" and you wouldn't be totally full of shit.
@@strangelyukrainian7314 There are people who would say anything can be solved by explosives. Just saying.
@PotatoTornado whoa, smart
Wait... America doesn't have a national identity card? And they use their superannuation number, printed on an regular piece of cardboard, with no picture, or address, or date of birth, or anything on it, as identification???... I have no words...
A passport / passport can be uaed as national ID.
@@Nikole_Raven Not everyone have a passport. Especially in the USA.
Only picture ID is driver license, state ID, passport and other licenses
*laughs in European civilization*
@@joaobaptista320 Laughs in most countries on Earth
As a german, the US's governmental decision are hilariously wierd. Then again, I dont know enough by own government to confidently say that we aren't doing something just as wierd sometimes
the German government has done some.... wacky stuff in the past XD
jkjk I know it's not y'alls responsibility for what happened a long time ago with a different government.
2022 Undiversified gas dependency incident
Your government based the majority of your energy supply on imports from Russia while being an active member in NATO.. an alliance formed entirely against Russia.. and then was shocked when Russia pulled some Russia type moves and your energy supply got kanked
@@littlefriend123 well, so did most of Europe
germany when they ban nuclear (they now have to dig for coal because their green energy is too expensive and unreliable)
having had family lose their _full_ SSN in a security breach _of_ a government institution, can we _please_ get a better system for this in place? because, more infuriating then all of the above? having your number _literally stolen_ is not a reason for Social Security Administration to assign you a new one. Stop and read that a few times. Now think about what happens if any other card with a number used to ID you gets looted in your life. _yeah_
I don't understand why Americans don't have any real id? Like what is the reason?
@@mateuszweyna7309because freedom
No joke I was able to guess my sister's SSN because of this video lol. We were born a minute apart in the same hospital
what was it?
@@isaacjesuroga829 yeah and also whats your credit card number
Oh boy, it's extortion time.
@@Asutoro we need the expiration date also
Oh boy….
Ah yes, the opposite of Joe Exotic, Joe Generic
His straight laced, rule abiding, completely non-tiger owning alter-ego
@@OrangeC7Me: Joe
You: Joe who?
Me: Joeboma
^_^
And right in between: Joe uncommon
Joesph Generic
When I applied for unemployment at one point, the unemployment office already had someone using my number. They casually mentioned this to me, before telling me not to worry about it. They approved my unemployment shortly thereafter.
Such a bizarre system. In Sweden we have national ID numbers, consisting essentially of your date of birth followed by four digits, the last of which is a checksum. Finding a valid number is not very hard (they're not even secret), but also doesn't really do much, an ID number alone is not a form of identification.
I'd like to stress that it's made of paper. And it's really bad if you get it wet.
its designed to be easily damaged/destroyed, so it cant be used if found. thats why they tell you not to laminate it.
neuromorph don't make it easily destroyable. It's not only a federal document, but a REALLY important federal document. What you want to do is add security features to it. Make it like a license.
Ionlymadethistoleavecomments A replacement is like $5. All you have to do is provide proof of identity.
And if you have no proof of identity? what do they ask for when you attempt to get one?
Renozuken they ask for everything, more than once, takes months, and can easily ruin years of progress
Can I point out that the number Grey used for Joe Generic is a valid number issued in New York between 1936 and 1950
Oh my!
Yeah that explains wtf is going on with this system. And I'm still not sure why Americans don't want an identification card like every first world country
@@lucabrandalesi6743 I don't understand it either. The only thing I could think people could find issue with would be the manor of information that could be attached to that one card. Granted, thats literally what already happens with your SSN... stubbornness? Im going to go with stubbornness.
@@ordinarychef we don't even care anymore, but apparently we still do
He kind of doxed somebody.
Greetings from Germany, where I'm proudly looking at my current ID card, issued by the federal government, heir of a centuries-old tradition of ID cards designed to identify citizens. It's unique, coded, laminated, credit card sized, with biometric features, basic information about me and my primary place of residence, photograph and enables me to cross the border to all Schengen countries without needing a passport.
:D
I, as a disillusioned American, envy you so much
Ah, German passports are great. I just had to apply for a new one because mine is about to expire. I´m looking forwart to finally have the function for online identification enabled. :D
In England we have a national security number. It's very similar. It says it's not ID on the front, but the "authorities" will use it as ID whenever it suits them.
And with this video, grey has reached his upload quota for the entire year.
I mean he does have a life, plus having high personal standards which all his videos must live up.
lol
I forgot who he was, I thought this was Casually Explained.
And that's where I come in...
Ikr... And look, already a million views... No one even unsubs...
Learning about social security cards from a CZcams video because your public school is to useless .
That's why you go to a school not ran by the government. The teachers at charter schools are more interesting and are more passionate at there job than 75 percent of the teachers at public schools
Camdyn Standley you don’t need school for this, wtf? It’s just a card that now can also work as a form of ID, and you need it for retirement, anyone’s parents will tell them if they asked.
Did they also not teach you the proper uses of “to” and “too”
@@aellyalwardi Yeah, but I guess she or he didn't listen
In your free time, could you please watch a CZcams video to learn how to write a sentence?
i remember the pain in the ass it was to get my SS card reprinted because i invalidated it by having it laminated. I thought protecting it from flood or water damage was a smart thing, SSA said other wise, and when your number card is invalid to the govt but not business you go through the pain of having a reprint, which only pisses one off more when one of the options at the time was a rigid plastic card thats just a cardboard card sandwiched between some plastic....
I too never understood why protecting such an important and *very fragile* document is considered bad.
I had no idea people didn’t used to have social security numbers since birth…it’s always seemed crazy to me you are supposed to keep track of one single piece of paper literally since birth.
A national number for a people that doesn't want one, on an id card that fails at id, given to everyone, except when it isn't, for a program that's universal, except when it's not.
That sums this thing up pretty well.
Such is the nature of government.
@@KryptKicker5 *USA and some extra.
@@KryptKicker5 Such is the nature of the US government you mean. Nobody else has this issue.
@@curtmacquarrie there are always exceptions in the real world. The US's social security numbers just are a particularly bad example.
Get on line to get replacement social security car
I recently tried getting a driver's permit (in Ohio). I brought in my passport, state ID (CA state ID), and proof of Ohio residency. I wasn't able to get that driver's permit, though, because I needed my social security card. I was able to apply for a replacement card online and got the card a few days ago. It is literally just a slip of paper. Not even cardboard. Why is this slip of paper considered such an important piece of identification when it isn't supposed to be one and isn't able to do that job well! Ugh.
W2 form would have worked also instead of the social security card. That's what I used for my license because my social security card is laminated and the DMV wouldn't take it. But you had a passport already meaning you didn't need the new TSA approved license. You can use your passport to get through the TSA checkpoint when you fly.
@ukkr what's the problem with "REAL ID"?
@ukkr you do realize that most countries already have IDs with secure numbers for their citizens, right?
Five years ago when I went to renew my drivers license in Colorado. They would not accept my drivers license as a form of ID. I needed to come back the next day with a piece of mail that was addressed to me. My drivers license was accepted everywhere, except the place that issued it.
@@mainwayne1352 😂😂😂😂😂Unbelievable!!!
Wow it's crazy when you find out things like this that aren't really at all what they're talked up to be..
Why does America always want to be different?
"they just need your time and location of birth" hey is that what all those astrology sites ask for? haha............. 😦
Oxidization00 damn lol
Corey Playz 😂
Corey Playz you mean a myth
@Slumerican Mystik i don't believe in astrology but i just wanna clarify that zodiac signs arent based off of the months exactly lol. take aries, which starts around the 20th of march and extends halfway into april
ROFL
Fun Fact: Don't give your social security number to Microsoft tech support.
Why?
Stuart D scammers. They don’t work for Microsoft
@@randy4443 thats true.
Stuart D r/woooosh
Im not from the US so im curious. What happens if you give it to them?.
Some of this has changed to the system he describes now. Also, I was born abroad and came over aged 4, but wasn’t registered immediately upon arrival but months after coming. So observant loan underwriters do notice the discrepancy of the age of birth versus the SSN registration date
We used to use our SSN as our college ID and it was printed right on there. That was the mid 1990's when the internet was just starting to become a thing. Now just about every school (I hope) has done away with that practice. The college ID's we had were basically laminated cards nothing like today and thinking back they were incredibly insecure even by that era's standards.
Jobs still ask for a social security card and driver's license when you are hired but in lieu of that you can use a US passport number. I have my card stored away somewhere I am not even sure I could tell you where it is right now.
I have a HUGE problem where my physically abusive mentally ill birth mother refused to hand over my documents (and SS card) when I left. 4 years of tax fraud and 7 years of stalking followed, leading up to one restraining order and a court ruling for her to hand them over. Guess who feigned ignorance with the classic “I have no idea what you’re talking about?” That followed another case of fraud- medical insurance, and a violation of HIPAA- and an unbelievably easy way for her to track me down using the SSN. Mind you, the SSN is a very easy 9-digit number for her to remember even if police one day manages to remove the documents from her possession. Years and years later, I am ironically trying to convince the SSA that the SSN is a VERY important number that shouldn’t be in the hands of a mentally ill abuser that has attempted to find and kill me.
Fun fact- I didn't get a SSN until I was 3, when my little brother was born, and my parents got our numbers at the same time, so his number is the one directly after mine. Kinda fun knowing someone else's birthday and SSN....
I had a co-worker that we found out was born a few days after my husband at the same hospital, so their social security numbers are only a few numbers off. Sometimes I would ask her what his number was when I needed to fill something out cause I can never remember his!
My dad has the same situation, except there was no twin and they’re a year apart.
@@rachele3334 you really having people who isn't family have that kind of access to your HUSBAND'S SSN number? Crazy..
This exact same thing happened with my dad, his brother and sister
My brother and I received ours at 16 and we are exactly 1 number apart. :)
I always wondered why between certain personal information people wanted to hide their birthday (at least in American cartoons it was like that), "there are thousands of people born on that exact date, what useful information could someone get to use against you?"
*now I get it, at least for the US people it makes a lot of sense to hide it xd*
As an American, I literally just realized that.
I'm so glad I watched until the end, because when I saw Kifflom I instantly started laughing because a handful of people are going to get the reference and the rest will now be looking on youtube "What is kifflom?". Love the great video
I lamenated mine when I was about 12 years old. Fast forward about 20 years...notices "do not laminate" on card...oops.
Steve
"Do not laminate"
"Not to be used as an identity card"
What the hell is wrong?
It's actually so in the case of getting lost the paper it's printed on will hopefully dissolve away before someone else can find it. It's basically the one security feature it has lol.
I laminated mine too. Fuck the ss
I hope someone steals my ID and have fun
You should lament your social security card: future payments are corrupted by unrelenting under adjustment where inflation is concerned. That's one reason energy is left out of the most common government inflation stats: it is accurate/resets on a rolling daily basis, and the program can't afford to keep up with real inflation. So not only is the recipient going to be underpaid, but you will be "means tested" to boot - that "income" [which is effectively just a refund of monies paid] will push any other money you come across into a higher tax bracket. Thank Bill Clinton for getting that snowball rolling, then thank Obama while you're at it: as the fed hit the nitrous on printing and distributing billions [mostly overseas to disguise the event, knowing that would come back to the stock market], the proposal put to congress at a time of concentrating the lions share of inflation into the stock market was to freeze COLA to ss recipients. In real dollar terms... that was a cut. Compare that to progs screaming about Newt planning on 4% increases vs. 7% when he was speaker and... at no time should a government program be considered a place of safety. In the event of a real emergency, bureaucracy stays while benefits get cut.
"There are security reasons you shouldn't... YOINK"
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You're welcome
Mic drop
Mic catch because mics are expensive
Rev_dude not really compared to other stuff; software costs way more
Hey, I like that color
Electroblade that's why they invented "Cracks"
Electroblade yeah but I wouldn't drop pro tools either.
Fun fact, social security was designed to pay out one year after the national life expectancy. Thus the program was only designed to help people who accidentally lived too long and be another cash grab from everyone else.
Life expectancy means half of the people.
@@SandfordSmythe and screw the other half that pay but will never get paid ;-)
It's NOT a "cash tran" because it's EARNED money by those who WORKED & PAID Federal taxes! 🙄
That's how tontines have been working for centuries: everyone pays in, and the longest-lived individuals get the whole amount
The social security is legit a scam,
i found your channel yd, and binged all your videos. they are from years ago but still up to date and very well made. thank you !
In Ireland we have passports, passport cards, drivers license but not really a identity card, when proving I’m 18 at pubs and nightclubs I always use my out of date passport (even tho I was about 9 in it ) always gets a laugh from the bouncers which helps get in
Same thing in America - no NATIONAL id cards
Passport card and drivers license are both ID cards.
@@Larsino2000 He is taking about national ID card.
@@Nexus9118 you need to learn that a passport, passport card and drivers lucense are all a form of ID and are all supplied by your goverment on a national level. All 3 are a national ID. A passport is not a ID card but more a ID book because its not a card.
@@Larsino2000 yes but there isn't a single national ID system. Passports are issued by the embassy and vary depending on your nationality, whilst driving licences are issued by a separate agency and not everyone has one. Same in the UK too.
Until recently, SSNs also served as military service numbers for everyone in the US Armed Forces. I wish that had never been the case. Myself and many people I know ended up giving ours out so constantly and casually that tens of thousands or more a year had their identities stolen.
Don’t forget we got our information stolen TWICE. I got the letter in the mail two years straight from two different incidents during the time from 2014 to 2016.
Ohh I see you got the letter as well too.
We still do this, I be giving my last 4 over the phone every time I need to schedule anything or receive any medical info 🙄
it would be so much more efficient if we all just took the mark of the beast
Yep, I lost my dog tags with my SSN on them 😖
The last 15 seconds are the best description of something I’ve ever heard
When almost every other democracy in the world has some form of citizen ID the American people are just petty.
Ahhhh I see my that bi-annual edition of CGP Grey content has arrived
Ikr I thought he was dead lol
FactHub deseo
this is very confusing( which no wonder I saw this video too much) and I finally know why my social security is important
FactHub no but you getting closer
omg
It's a trust fund. The problem is, there's no trust, and there's no fund
Wtf is going on America
Same shit different day?
At this point social security is basicly a ponzi scheme that somehow creates an infinite amount of welfare with no changes to how much it takes in. Its why im really happy to be in that special group of railroad workers that gray mentioned. Same idea but without all the government inefficientes so i know my money will actually still be there.
So my Grandparents collecting SS checks are getting fake money?
Yes, on multiple levels. 1 the dollar is BS at this point. 2 that's not the money they were told they were saving. That money was gone long ago, they're getting the money I'm being told I'm saving
Gasp, the US have done something in the worst way possible
Such surprise, I feel so omgged
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The REAL reason the IRS got to use the SSN *FROM DAY ONE* more or less is that they are the ones that collect Social Security TAXES (from both employers AND employees).
Therefore at least part of their usage IS in fact directly Social Security related.
Holy shit! This guy's taking Roy off the grid! This guy doesn't have a social security card for Roy!
We're out of off white Persians
Never go back to the carpet store!
Damn it Morty, you only lived for 68 years!
this is what the comment section was made for. this is good stuff. stop trying to host a formal debate, thats not what its for and youre only encoraging deviciveness. gg tho quokka, made me laugh
Don't thrash my Roy score man....
i don’t know why i found this so funny but i nearly died at “You got a John Smith?” “Go Fish.”
Uh... help. I don't get it.
@@thelocalnecromancer1224 I'm guessing cause John/Jim Smith are Insanely common names and Go Fish is a game where you match cards?
@@thelocalnecromancer1224 brainlet
@@ikatulo_yt if you want a create a story and include an US person need to incluse one john or one smith
You called?
That would explain why I came across someone who had a similar SSN to mine at one of my jobs. Our bdays were close too, at least, born the same year. Also met a couple from another country that had a one number difference between them, the last one. That’s when I realized you could probably guess a valid SSN.
Older people would write or carve their SSN on home stereo equipment, computer equipment, and other expensive things. Why? So they could prove it belongs to them in case it was ever stolen!
Interesting to note, this was usually medium priced items, not expensive “durable goods” like automobiles, dish washers, clothes dryers, couches, or hot water heaters.
You know, I always wondered what social security cards were for and why they were so important, because honestly, I don't think my mom knows. She just always told me that it was important, but never why.
And school sure as heck didn't teach me what it is, what it is for, or why it is so important, so, here I am.
Learning about something so important on CZcams, like it's a fun fact.
they are not important. Only the number is.
It’s a tax identification number that your parents volunteered knowingly or unknowingly.
I'm a adult and I didn't know
School failed me
This sounds like that ID card i made as a kid when i was roleplaying with some kids that was made of a piece of paper and some writing with my name and age
even yours made as a kid is better than the social security number system.
@@error-not-found7415 He's smarter then the Congress
All I know about my card is it didn't take long to reach a washer after being trusted to have it, still in one piece amazingly enough, and now I know how the numbers were created. Though with how the numbers are determined I'm surprised they haven't had issues with copies yet or maybe they keep going until they get a number not in use.
Here in Australia, we don't have a national ID card either. We use our drivers' licenses or even passports for identification.
Plenty of countries don't.
Social Security doesn't make me very feel very secure...or very social for that matter.
Dr.StickFigure you again
And it definitely doesn't make me feel number.
That's probably something you should see a shrink about. Don't blame the gov't for your problems.
Kinda like the Holy Roman Empire
But does it make you feel card?
"And the last four digits just count up in order."
*Pain*
That's not the real problem, though. The problem is that the number is used as a *password*, where simply knowing it is taken as proof that you're that person. If it were just a label, as it was supposed to be, then it wouldn't matter that it's predictable and publicly known.
Kifflom brotha!!! May Kraft be with you always 🙏🙏🙏
Just discovered you and you had me cracking up the entire video
Please take a moment of silence, in honour of the Great Tax Child Genocide...
FINALLY A CGP GREY VIDEO
Bert Karlsson ikr
Bert Karlsson 4 months later u will writh this again
(that's not a podcast)
Дарина Рябова Well That's obviously a virus...
Bert Karlsson I
If you have a twin sibling, then their social security number will be your social security number with the last digit having a difference of one.
probably
You mentioned that many railroad employees didn't need a Social Security number. Technically true, but inaccurate. Back in the day railroad retirement benifits & other benifits were placed under the Railroad Retirement Board. Every road employee was assigned the equivalent of a SSN number that started with 700-728. Since 1 June 1963 employees are given a regular SSN.
"Yoink!"
2:16
My mom liked that
alyssa paull I gave you the 1,000th like
Dawson Ditzler yep
2:17
I'm disappointed in you CGP grey. You should have used "Jen Erick" for your fake SSN card. I mean... Joe Generic? c'mon son.
Right? it's a bit generic..
Might have been his animator's idea. Talk them instead.
Doesn't Grey animate these himself?
dfsDylan he works with an animator now. Listen to the podcast hello internet and cortex. He talks about it there a bit
Wouldn't it really suck if had sick parents that gave you "Jen Eric" for a name? I wouldn't put it past some foreign national who would give that name to their kid...
Nothing like having a national identification card with self esteem issues
I did not know this and felt safer not knowing. Thanks for adding this to my list of topics to cry over.
He called the dude “Joe Generic”. He should’ve been called “Gene Eric”
Was thinking Jenn Neric
How about "Genea Rick"
It's like an Easter egg everywhere
Dear typical and regular John Doe
*JULY 28 INTENSIFIES*
Jean rick
THE GREY HAS SPOKEN
Mr. Grey has spoken!
Saniya Mariyam I hear his likes are rather unconventional.
Akato is he mute?
The Grey speaks often to the Tims.
if you're a member of the military your SSN is also your primary identification number it appears on your dog tag as well
funniest thing is, the number he used for example might be someones actual social security number just flashing on the screen all the time
it was
Damn, you just giving out Joe Generic's SIN number like that? Tsk smh
WateverWatever04 I know right? Some people...
He could of changed his social.
How rude
I still didn't get, why it is such a problem, if others know your number.
0000000 0000000 are you 2 years old? It controls your freaking life
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Took me a 4 years to notice that that's the logo from The Episilon Programme in GTA V
"Programme"
Kifflom!
I Nocticed it imeatitaly
5:07 mines not even cardboard it is just paper lmao
thanks for teaching me how to guss credit card numbers
What? Why wouldn't you have ID cards? That's just silly.
welcome to america :D
We do, they're just issued at state level and not federal.
Octavia It's not a required card though, and you have to pay a fee to get one issued in most states. Most nations don't have such a fee, and many others require you to have an ID.
Niles Nibogie Nobody is arguing that ID cards are racist, they're arguing that Voter ID laws are racist because they disproportionately affect minorities. A very fine line, but an important one nonetheless.
I would argue the line isn't that fine but a national ID card would take the issue of race away not to mention solving several other problems at the same time.
"Lastly, it must have existed continuously since 1950."
Welp, time to go to the Time Machine.
Say that it comes from yr grandfather and he never registered it. Then ask yr family to pretend they are all into it. And just see what happens next out of lulz.
ask Guy Pierce to borrow his ;)
@@SasNolan "Hey, your grandfather looks exactly like you in this picture"
@@BatkoNashBandera774 - I know the film reference you're making there, but this wouldn't work, because he's Australian :-)
It's not just Chicago! All Louisiana public school teachers are exempt from Social Security. There could be other places as well, for all I know.
Very Informative and I loved the gta reverence at the end
2:51 “Really? You’ve been... busy.”
😂😂😂
The "Not for identification" text was moved to the back of the Social Security card, not removed.
This... is actually a great vid. Thx for the great facts!
Social security cards are flimsy pieces of paper so that when eaten, they will break down much more easily than laminated cards.
TheBraveZombies wtf
Why would you eat your social security card?
Oddly, he's actually halfway correct. The card has instructions on it that say "Do not laminate" because if you lose the card, they want it to biodegrade quickly so nobody else will get a hold of it.
I'm not sure eating was part of the decision making process, but it's technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
They send out free ones. You can just keep eating them and getting new ones to also eat. A never ending food source.
I wonder what's the nutritional value of cardboard and ink.
I've heard many people oppose national IDs because "tHeY'd GiVe ThE gOvErNmEnT aLl ThIs InFoRmAtIoN aBoUt Me" as if the government doesn't already have all that information anyway. I would love to see a national ID system because it would give some much-needed security to our identity, but neither side of the political spectrum likes the idea.
The reason I hear most is that it disenfranchises the poor. Same reason given for why people don't want voter id.
I think because most people here would take the option of not being indentifiable if it was ever given as an option.
Yeah the government knows all about us, but it would be cool if it didn't.
Imagine if all the mattered was the money you used to pay for things and the passwords you had for private accounts and no one was allowed to link those up or know who you were, it'd be perfect ^-^
@@nightlight0x07cc And how is the government suppose to govern without vital data?
@@Nexus9118 That's the thing, most people don't want to be "governed" much.
@@Jake-rs9nq No, no we do. Pretty sure we need them roads, schools, research fundings, utilities infrastructure, airports, public transportation, defense, etc.
Why the hell do Americans not want a national ID card? Why is that controversial?
My work uses the last 4 of our social as the key we use to clock in and do anything on the computer…. And the last four of every supervisor or above are listed on a sticky note right next to the computer
This is what I love about this channel. His videos have so much information in such a short video. And he covers topics I never would have thought to research.
Am I the only one who is going to compliment the animation and voice acting quality spike and the many, many, *many* hours CGPGrey probably put into them?
True, but I would add that Grey has hired an animator to help him, so chances are he didn't create the animations himself (though I'm sure he did the storyboarding and then reviewed/fine-tuned the animations).
// We've loved him lots in the past; unfortunately we now take him for granted and only have complaints to offer regarding his disappearance and lack of love for us as of late ;)
If you're trying to gain kudos for a "caring about others" cause though, maybe try not undermining it all by making it about yourself, using prefixes such as "Am I, the me me me, as the only one who isn't lame like allll of you, the only one who cares about [insert issue]..." ;)
call of duty mw3...
I would agree but he made 18 THOUSAND dollars from this video alone and still got a sponsor backing him.
More like $3,000.
I gave my SSN to a Nigerian prince who promised me a hefty sum if I let him use my SSN to open a bank account. I’m patiently waiting because Nigeria takes a long time to open bank accounts but he promised that once it’s open, I’d have $15M.
Always interesting, thanks.
Damn that Joe Generic guy really got his social security number exposed.
This puts the Lifelock’s guys number look like chump change.