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  • @OGclasshole
    @OGclasshole Před 2 lety +3777

    As a combat Veteran, when you hear or know a gunman is firing at friendly target, civilian or otherwise the number one priority is to get a visual of the gunman and end the threat, not cower and wait for arbitrary help. Unless you are put manned or out gunned, the police officers definitely weren't. They're just cowards.

    • @glamour3296
      @glamour3296 Před 2 lety +92

      ^same and this

    • @TheLastSane1
      @TheLastSane1 Před 2 lety

      They are 100% cowards, trained to be even. They are taught over and over through training that everyone is an enemy and the only person you can rely on is another person in uniform which is why that little bitch in the video had a taser out when being questioned by parents. Because he lives in perpetual fear like all cops a fear that they imagine is there.

    • @Salad_Pickle
      @Salad_Pickle Před 2 lety +1

      I'm glad someone with perspective says it. If anyone else says it they get shit on. I fail to see why perspective differentiates fact from fiction but far me it from me to argue against the standpoint of an asshat on the web.

    • @Confron7a7ion7
      @Confron7a7ion7 Před 2 lety +211

      I didn't serve a combat roll but even us from the fucking Air Force would have done better.

    • @TheDarkPreacher65
      @TheDarkPreacher65 Před 2 lety +335

      The way we, as military members (I'm a Marine vet, btw), were taught to deal with shooters that were firing on friendlies, is the same way that cops have been trained to deal with this kind of situation since fucking COLUMBINE. Those cops did nothing and 19 kids and 2 teachers are dead. It took the god damned BORDER PATROL to do their jobs for them. Whole damned Ulvalde police force needs to be fired and banned from serving as police nationwide. Don't want to do the job you are tasked with? You don't get to go elsewhere and have the same position.

  • @elijahevans1191
    @elijahevans1191 Před 2 lety +816

    As someone that's from Uvalde, our police department is sorely lacking. they're more concerned about busting kids for Marijuana than they are for actually protecting people.

    • @GioGarnada
      @GioGarnada Před 2 lety +45

      those dangerous kids with their pot, smh

    • @Greenitthe
      @Greenitthe Před 2 lety

      war on drugs my ass, how about we do war on school shootings... oh wait, its midterms, gotta scare people into voting with "they want to take your guns, thoughts and prayers though" this country is rotten to its core

    • @calebkdesign
      @calebkdesign Před 2 lety +31

      40% of the budget goes to the police there from what I've read, if they're still lacking that's sad.

    • @KrazedKoala1
      @KrazedKoala1 Před 2 lety +35

      Most departments are interested in catching grandma going 5 over and collecting revenue than they are building community relations and protecting

    • @rydz656
      @rydz656 Před 2 lety +1

      Hilarious.

  • @rockinslugz
    @rockinslugz Před 2 lety +368

    This proves to me something I'd been worried about for a long time.
    Modern day police are not warriors, they are not soldiers.
    They're just bullies. Absolutely terrified of any real confrontation the moment they aren't in total control.

    • @Sneedmire
      @Sneedmire Před 2 lety

      They're just another street gang.
      Many of us realized this a long time ago, which is why we are baffled at the calls for gun control because that is people just opening themselves up to abuse by this group of individuals.
      The mentally deranged do not care for laws that say they cannot own weapons. Nor do the criminal elements of society.
      Reccomendation: abolish all non-elected police forces, abolish their unions (which protect their bully behavior), and grant citizens the ability to be as armed or better armed than these thugs.
      They are then kept in line by two measures.

    • @NaudVanDalen
      @NaudVanDalen Před 2 lety

      That's like saying that all Muslims are terrorists because you read a story about a Muslim terrorist. It's just one story about a school shooting and a cowardly police unit. Plenty of other cops are brave. I don't know what percentage is brave vs cowardly.

    • @captainsuckbutt3917
      @captainsuckbutt3917 Před 2 lety +8

      Should definitely let them know, their number is on google. It’s easily findable with one simple search.
      There’s only the one police station in their town so you know you’re talking to the right folks.
      It’s perfectly legal and ethical to ask a public servant to explain the actions they are publicly recorded doing.

    • @crimson4066
      @crimson4066 Před 2 lety

      That is an ignorant statement. You can't generalize millions of people as "bullies" when many chose their career to protect others. There are certainly a lot of sh*t cops and leaders in the US, but not all of our politicians, police, etc. are sh*thead bullies.

    • @frogizel2998
      @frogizel2998 Před 2 lety

      1900s police are worse compared to today's. Now there's body cams everywhere so at least pigs can't do pigs shit freely.

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen Před 2 lety +120

    Cops: "Let us do our jobs."
    Parents: "Then do your jobs."

  • @CaitlinLyaneLeman
    @CaitlinLyaneLeman Před 2 lety +1316

    I'm a teacher. This entire situation pisses me off. I'm supposed to accept that the cops can't go in to save lives, and at the same time accept the fact that I would 100% die trying to save my students if I were in that situation. I work in a rough neighborhood. I should just sit back and accept the argument that the cops couldn't do shit? Even if one life was saved, it would have been worth it. Its the cops' job to TRY to save lives, to protect and serve, and yet they failed that school, those kids, the teachers, and the entire school community. Its inexcusable.

    • @ace448
      @ace448 Před 2 lety +34

      What’s worse is bet the cops make more

    • @emilyb.8219
      @emilyb.8219 Před 2 lety

      Contrary to popular belief, cops are actually under no obligation to protect people and save lives. The Supreme Court has ruled as much. SHOULD they? Absolutely, especially since they love to portray themselves as selfless heroes. But they don't have to, so they don't.

    • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
      @DJSockmonkeyMusic Před 2 lety +69

      You just need to carry an AR-15 and spare high capacity magazines whenever you're teaching. I carried mine on a sling strap for years when I was in the army, you get used to it pretty quickly, and before you know it, it's just normal. Problem solved! /s
      In all seriousness, I wish you guys could do what we did in Australia. We just don't have guns here. I can't remember the last time I saw a handgun outside of a range, where the gun clubs store "sports" weapons in onsite armouries. There is no legitimate civilian purpose to owning an assault rifle or handgun.

    • @yog-sherkoth1782
      @yog-sherkoth1782 Před 2 lety

      @@DJSockmonkeyMusic it sucks but America was founded through guns and violent revolution. When we split, we once again used guns to reunite and free our citizens. Guns are Americans response to oppressive governments. Guns are part of American culture. I hate to see mass shootings but I'm terrified of what our government will do to its own unarmed population and the level of tyranny the citizens would face.

    • @Lizzard2060
      @Lizzard2060 Před 2 lety

      Hold on now, not "couldn't do shit" . . . ."wouldn't do shit". Big difference. They could have had every cop that was there engage the shooter or at least keep him occupied shooting at cop cars. They could have had every cop go in after him as soon as he went into the school and engage him in a tactical manner to take out any hostile threat to any child. They CHOSE to sit there and do nothing. They had their firearms. This is Texas so half the parents probably had firearms and were ready to go take the person out as well. The cops chose to do nothing. The cops chose to stop the parents from engaging the hostile force and stop them from getting their kids. As a Mom, F That, The other parents and I that I know are driving up to the school doors over any curb you have even if our cars are destroyed or in our old beater trucks to go get the kids and stop the shooter or at minimum draw his attention from the kids to adults. I'll worry about being arrested when my kid is alive and safe and out of harm's way.

  • @beththebubbly69
    @beththebubbly69 Před 2 lety +1960

    Re: pictures of victims
    from the completely removed from privacy standpoint, this is absolutely the best choice. I heard about the parents in texas who have been asked for DNA samples to IDENTIFY CHILDRENS CORPSES like how does anyone read that and it doesnt click in their head how horrific this situation is???????

    • @sallypoe
      @sallypoe Před 2 lety +36

      Omg i hadn't heard that. God please be with these families.

    • @puropsychobilly3995
      @puropsychobilly3995 Před 2 lety +181

      @@sallypoe and where was "god" while all this went down?

    • @ravennc5964
      @ravennc5964 Před 2 lety +130

      It sickens me, but we need pictures of victims and crime scenes and to completely stop naming and showing pictures of the perpetrator.

    • @sifibruh7055
      @sifibruh7055 Před 2 lety +85

      @@ravennc5964 yeah I feel like its easy to only show the perpetrator but this isn't supposed to be easy and maybe if everyone saw the victims they'd actually realize what a disgusting situation this is.

    • @saphired02
      @saphired02 Před 2 lety +29

      They should show each and every victim of all the mass shootings with the family's permission.

  • @JackEverfree
    @JackEverfree Před 2 lety +96

    As a son, grandson, and nephew of an officer here in Oklahoma, every single one of those “officers” should be fired and tried for dereliction of duty.

    • @Teh_Random_Canadian
      @Teh_Random_Canadian Před 2 lety +5

      Should be, highly doubtful they will be though. Some of the blood is on their hands from their cowardice and inaction.

    • @MightyDragoon
      @MightyDragoon Před 2 lety +2

      @@Teh_Random_Canadian sounds like a normal cop to me

    • @Max-xs8dv
      @Max-xs8dv Před 2 lety +1

      But they won't be. This has happened at many school shootings. Most school shootings end when the shooter decides to end it.

    • @whocares269
      @whocares269 Před 2 lety +1

      Do you have three different relatives in law enforcement or is your family tree a circle?😉

  • @jellis_sojealous7614
    @jellis_sojealous7614 Před 2 lety +169

    The video of the parents outside the school is absolutely disgusting. Current active shooting training says attack the threat immediately. It’s been this way. Those cops failed.

  • @superfluousnscrupulous9458
    @superfluousnscrupulous9458 Před 2 lety +2782

    It's terrifying to know that the officers didn't do anything and then lied about it when law enforcement had ample time to intervene and stop the massacre. We even saw that when the lone border patrol agent went into the building and ended the conflict minutes after arriving

    • @BC-ny3zb
      @BC-ny3zb Před 2 lety +322

      Wait until you find out that they went in and rescued their own kids, brought them outside, and then waited while the other children died.

    • @gamingeagle19
      @gamingeagle19 Před 2 lety

      Cops lie all the damn time. It's basically part of their job to lie their ass off...about everything.

    • @cicic5340
      @cicic5340 Před 2 lety

      @@BC-ny3zb exactly, the idiot police officer left the kids for dead oh but his kid was fine.

    • @PunisherSM
      @PunisherSM Před 2 lety

      Cops lie as easily as they breathe to cover their own ass.

    • @ZennExile
      @ZennExile Před 2 lety +44

      They are literally trained not to risk their own lives for any reason.

  • @joycedonnelly9987
    @joycedonnelly9987 Před 2 lety +1879

    Pro police people say “support the police, they put their lives on the line for us!” Then turn around and say “what do you expect them to do?? They can’t just run in and risk their lives!!!1!”
    As a police wife, this is absolutely tragic, pathetic, and such a disgrace. My husband said “those cowards are no longer cops in my eyes, they don’t deserve that title”

    • @mrcaterpillow9926
      @mrcaterpillow9926 Před 2 lety +135

      This absolutely, Like i completely understand. The Cop needs to look out for themselves in scenarios there is no doubt in my mind about it... But they NEED to put the lives of other people above their own. That's the whole point of being a cop. When you become a cop, you accept that you will be giving your fucking life to protect someone elses. A Fireman cannot just decide 'Ah, nah don't feel like going to the fire' when there's an alarm.

    • @greatkentuckian9032
      @greatkentuckian9032 Před 2 lety +19

      I don't know what you are talking about. I've seem many pro police people complain that these officers were cowards and said that they should even be put in prison for their cowardness.

    • @Ray-zv8in
      @Ray-zv8in Před 2 lety +49

      All these cops who acted completely inappropriately and cowardly will suffer no consequences. I think one the worst things is how powerful the police unions are. Unless a cop does something majorly wrong they’re not going to bear consequences. This is completely unlike most jobs, there’s a complete lack of accountability

    • @brittanykay1079
      @brittanykay1079 Před 2 lety +5

      Right, doesn’t look like their putting their life on the line

    • @Rexwizord
      @Rexwizord Před 2 lety +2

      Nobody cares

  • @LuigiTheHeadcrab
    @LuigiTheHeadcrab Před 2 lety +52

    I cant imagine the hell of being one of those parents... knowing their child could have been saved if the cops only did their job. My heart is breaking for them, and the parents begging the cops to let THEM in breaks it even more.

  • @taylorf7221
    @taylorf7221 Před 2 lety +87

    Every bullet that was shot at cops would’ve been one less that would’ve hit kids. The terrible handling of the situation is just outrageous and unacceptable. They need to be fired, or hold accountable. They have shown they are inadequate for the job. Your ONLY job is to protect those innocent kids. They failed. They don’t deserve to keep their job.

    • @tenin982000
      @tenin982000 Před 2 lety +2

      legally they don't have to. i know it sucks to say it that but it's true

    • @captainsuckbutt3917
      @captainsuckbutt3917 Před 2 lety

      Should definitely let them know, their number is on google. It’s easily findable with one simple search.
      There’s only the one police station in their town so you know you’re talking to the right folks.
      It’s perfectly legal and ethical to ask a public servant to explain the actions they are publicly recorded doing.

    • @anthonygoad4214
      @anthonygoad4214 Před 2 lety +2

      I would trade the lives of every cop in that department for the life of even one of those children. Those cops are cowards and should be in jail. The sad thing is they will probably have one person take a fall and they will keep their taxpayer funded jobs.

    • @partysqu1d
      @partysqu1d Před 2 lety +1

      @@tenin982000
      I'm not sure if that is the case.
      I don't know what was said on the 911 calls or the dispatches, but it can be inferred that they knew that there was an active shooter.
      I also have not seen any case law that affects the following, but will gladly eat humble pie if that exists, and welcome correction in the event thereof.
      According to Texas' Code Of Criminal Procedure Title 1, Ch 2, Art 2.03 titled "Neglect of Duty", it can be argued that the officers deserve punishment for neglect considering the academy that trains them had a course on active shooters weeks prior, and goes into great detail regarding the importance of time and isolating, distracting, and/or neutralizing the threat; even if it means putting oneself in harms way.
      That response has been the same for the past 2 decades. Depending on the department's regulations regarding adherence to training and testing, Texas Penal Code Title 2, Ch 8, Sec 8.03 Mistake of Law would likely neutralize any argument that they may have.
      They knew what their duty was, and legally they have to see to it or get slapped with Neglect of Duty whether they know about Art 2.03 or not.
      It definitely sucks because it takes so much effort from so many people against a likely corrupt legal justice system, but so long as good people with proper credentials take the right actions, there may be hope to utilize it for the benefit of the people rather than let the unfit officers continue exploiting it.
      Worth it to try, though.

    • @BlueWoWTaylan
      @BlueWoWTaylan Před 2 lety

      @@tenin982000 Fuck legality at this point. If they are 'legally' not suppose to protect fucking children then police has no reason to exist.

  • @icekraze07
    @icekraze07 Před 2 lety +2179

    Phil, can you talk about the fact that some of the officers went right in and got their own kids out of the school and returned to the cops outside the school. This was confirmed by a member of law enforcement while he continued to defend their actions.

    • @dancaine3975
      @dancaine3975 Před 2 lety +1

      Facts - those cops need to be fired, they are obviously incapable of doing their job - to protect ALL people.

    • @ryansbayliss
      @ryansbayliss Před 2 lety +295

      Tell me there's a source on this, it's so shocking my brain refuses to accept it

    • @emilymfv
      @emilymfv Před 2 lety

      What the actual fuck????? I really hope this is not true because otherwise, that cop is a complicit murderer in my eyes. That is an extremely selfish and disgusting action. Every single one of those kids lives matters, no one deserves to die or should be required to be the child of an officer for them to survive a fucking mass shooting

    • @dancaine3975
      @dancaine3975 Před 2 lety +169

      @@ryansbayliss There is, one of the officers confirmed in on the news, let me see if i can get you a link.

    • @lukeseguin1875
      @lukeseguin1875 Před 2 lety +108

      @@ryansbayliss confirmed by a lt olvarez mediate has a drudge front page article on it for easy access.

  • @BoggyLex
    @BoggyLex Před 2 lety +320

    The fact that one mother heard about the shooting, drove FORTY MINUTES FROM WORK, was handcuffed by athorities for yelling at the authorities, and ultimately, once uncuffed, ran in and got her own child says quite a lot about the action of the police there. The parents had more urgency(for obvious reasons) than their law enforcement and it's sicking. As a parent of a soon-to-be kindergartener, I am terrified now of the coming Fall.

    • @mrssirens
      @mrssirens Před 2 lety +11

      I'd straight up home-school my kids. No way would I send them into a school, the list of school based shootings is massive, at least 4-8 pages long.

    • @paddington1670
      @paddington1670 Před 2 lety

      I once was an American LOL. sorry you guys have to put up with so many gun tragedies, shouldnt happen in this day and age when no other developed countries have this issue, and yet still allow guns. Dumbest arguments ive ever heard come from your pro gun lobby, as if they need to invent the wheel to fix this issue. No, everyone else already solved it, LOOK AROUND.

    • @TheRedAzuki
      @TheRedAzuki Před 2 lety +1

      @@mrssirens Isnt mass shootings in US 1-2 per day now? and school shootings is like every other week.

    • @chrisw443
      @chrisw443 Před 2 lety

      Home school. They may not survive public school.

    • @JewishGirlRox
      @JewishGirlRox Před 2 lety

      Where did you see this?

  • @gaflor44
    @gaflor44 Před 2 lety +25

    You know, so many people try to protect cops but it’s situations like this over and over again that show how our law enforcement fails to actually protect the people. I know there are good individual cops, but we need to look at the system of law enforcement and repair it. This is so tragic, heartbreaking, and anger-inducing.

  • @Pistachios36
    @Pistachios36 Před 2 lety +19

    I cannot imagine the grief of these parents who were kept from rescuing their kids. Absolutely disgraceful

  • @alhassani23
    @alhassani23 Před 2 lety +471

    There was an interview when this happened where the officer kept saying how fast everyone went in, and it sounded odd but could not put my finger on it. Now it makes sense.
    I'm not a cop, but I did 3 tours overseas. I will say with confidence that in the situation I'm going in. Either I'm dying or the shooter is, but no way in hell I'd sit there and wait. Cowardice.

    • @Thimble-berry
      @Thimble-berry Před 2 lety +30

      Yes, I saw a fairly early interview with an officer who kept repeating how brave the officers were who responded to the shooting, while paying almost offhanded remarks to the victims and their families. It felt off, and I couldn't help but feel like it was a 'doth protest too much' situation; like he was insisting on something most people weren't even arguing about yet.

    • @Zman44444
      @Zman44444 Před 2 lety +24

      I’ve never been in combat. Let alone in a fight. I don’t have a kid.
      But I do understand that having a kid changes a lot of things. And hell, I can definitely see myself in blind rage n fear, running towards the school and towards the shooter.
      I’m thoroughly upset with the officers. Isn’t like… part of the job getting into sticky, dangerous situations? I mean.. they carry weapons for a reason!

    • @jzzisk
      @jzzisk Před 2 lety +5

      Amen brother.

    • @Lizzard2060
      @Lizzard2060 Před 2 lety

      @@Zman44444 A few comments. First, PD are trained to not become overwhelmed and fearful in such a scenario which is why they train for being shot at and have body armor. Second, I am a parent and while I would be extremely emotional at first I would need to "get it together" and do some deep breathing and regulate my emotions because acting without thinking is how you die in these situations. I have a goal I deeply care about which is my kid but I do need to think about how I will actually reach said goal in a tactical way where other students, faculty, and I don't get harmed if possible in obtaining such a goal. Believe me my feelings would be like "Go in and F the dude up" but that's not a strategic move. You can't be using your emotions to think in this situation. You have to be able to regulate yourself or you are basically unsafe to have around and that is the concern of having civilians go in. Some may be capable and even have training and some may get people shot. No blind rage N fear. Deep slow breaths and tactical thinking, planning, and decision making. In movies when the cop is scared and he is behind a wall or barricade so he doesn't get shot and takes a deep breathe and then is able to go after the bad guy. . . . .he needed to regulate himself to be able to act on his training and not his emotions because reality is gunshots are loud and scary and it hurts to be shot and death is scary.

    • @Rigel_Chiokis
      @Rigel_Chiokis Před 2 lety +6

      Canadian Forces veteran here and I'd be right beside brother. One of us might die, be he is definitely going down.

  • @cluv4466
    @cluv4466 Před 2 lety +510

    The things that are coming out about the Texas shooting are completely insane to me… I’m so damn angry.

    • @alexclo5901
      @alexclo5901 Před 2 lety +18

      I want jail sentences. what do we have police for?

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Před 2 lety +2

      I wish I could be, but I'm not. I have no anger left to give.

    • @ZennExile
      @ZennExile Před 2 lety

      that's why the media is bombarding you with this. They know it will make you angry. They want you outraged and waiting for the next segment so they can sell you products and brands during the breaks. And bonus, you'll automatically attempt to focus that anger on the nearest and most convenient outlet. Your brain is designed to make that happen with no conscious effort whatsoever. So you're guaranteed to take a tribal political position and blindly defend it against reality. Doesn't even matter which one.
      See, Democrats win if more people vote. Always. Republicans win if less people vote. Always. Because it's a tribal divide between the two most common personality types. There's no center in a tribal conflict. So outrage is used in the media to push you toward political fervor. As long as you are "mad at the other team". They always win.
      It's a con. 19 kids is a horrific loss. But you're still more likely to die of a shark attack in Oklahoma than of gun violence. 30,000,000 kids are in school at any given moment in the United States. 30 MILLION. We lost 19 to a failure in social services because a deranged child was done with life and wanted to make the world feel their pain. We can't prevent things like that from happening without reading people's mind and criminalizing thought.

    • @alexclo5901
      @alexclo5901 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ZennExile Dude I was mad about this when I was 8, it's not the media all they do is report things that happen. News isn't conspiracy

    • @alexclo5901
      @alexclo5901 Před 2 lety

      @@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley remember to vote

  • @scaptal
    @scaptal Před 2 lety +79

    The thing is that, yes, odcourse it's scarry to run into an active shooter situation. But you can't become a cop only to ticket people and abuse your power by bullying people without also taking the responsibilities during problematic situation. Imo all those cops should be fired, it's literally your job to risk your life if a situation asks for it, if you don't want to do that you shouldn't get paid.
    (You don't see firefighters complain that they don't want to run into a burning building to safe a child either)

  • @TJl919
    @TJl919 Před 2 lety +6

    I was reading a comment by a former cop who said that the first thing you're meant to do in an 'active shooter situation' is go straight for the shooter and be as loud as possible, scream "Police" at the top of your lungs. Because evidence has shown that the shooter often turns the gun on themselves when they know police are closing in. They may not have even engaged with the shooter, yet kids are still likely dead because of their inaction.

  • @nicholasstone3887
    @nicholasstone3887 Před 2 lety +283

    They're just cowards. Everybody defending them saying its a stressful and scary situation that we don't understand, nobody made them be cops. Its their job to put their life on the line to save lives, especially the lives of innocent children. At minimum all those cops should be fired because they are incapable of their duties.

    • @Teh_Random_Canadian
      @Teh_Random_Canadian Před 2 lety +64

      Imagine the fire department rolled up to an apartment fire and waited outside because "fighting fire is dangerous and stressful"... it is insane the mentality of these cops

    • @edwing8682
      @edwing8682 Před 2 lety +2

      Their job is not legally to put their life on the lines to save lives. That is how we view cops, but it doesn't match up with what their job actually demands of them. Their job is to enforce the law yes, but they are by no means anywhere in the job description required to risk their own lives for the safety of others.

    • @LiLzZluvinJ
      @LiLzZluvinJ Před 2 lety +5

      From my understanding, the police are to protect and serve government agency’s public safety. They don’t have to protect & serve people at all.

    • @xXenjoi53Xx
      @xXenjoi53Xx Před 2 lety

      @@edwing8682 Pretty sure there's a law against shooting children with an AR-15 but they sure took their sweet ass time enforcing it. Many cops have no problem shooting unarmed civilians when they feel threatened but when there's an actual threat to the lives of others they sit on their ass? Doesn't seem right to me.

    • @sirconrad8328
      @sirconrad8328 Před 2 lety +9

      At minimum they should be charged with criminal negligence.

  • @537monster
    @537monster Před 2 lety +1740

    The fact that police aren’t constitutionally obligated to protect people is insane.
    The entire justification for their existence is that they are meant to put their lives on the line so that others don’t have to. I’m saying this as someone in the army, and yeah, I’ll admit that I’ve never been under fire, but if I show cowardice I could literally face the death penalty as punishment.
    I mean holy shit. The fact that a cop can just hide and snivel while children are being murdered, and there are no repercussions for doing so is insane to me.

    • @emilyb.8219
      @emilyb.8219 Před 2 lety

      Makes you wonder why we spend billions funding them, giving them military-grade weapons, only for them to twiddle their thumbs while kids are killed.

    • @asterisk606
      @asterisk606 Před 2 lety +2

      The shooting was not going on while they were outside. The killing happened as soon as the guy entered a room and barricaded himself in. The shooting was over and not actively happening.

    • @arlaux1099
      @arlaux1099 Před 2 lety +150

      @@asterisk606 He didn't just barricade himself in, the cops allowed it to happen and even aided it happening.

    • @lifehacksf-t-w6921
      @lifehacksf-t-w6921 Před 2 lety +1

      Unfortunately the historical purpose of police has never been to protect people, modern police just stemmed from militia who stopped slaves from escaping. So as always they just continue to serve themselves and the corrupt, instead of the people who need help the most.

    • @TheGuardian_TM
      @TheGuardian_TM Před 2 lety +24

      The fact that police aren’t constitutionally obligated to protect people is exactly why everyone able and emotionally capable of concealed carrying, should protect themselves.

  • @Pink_Aqua
    @Pink_Aqua Před 2 lety +6

    I'm a parent of two, and my boy is going into kindergarten this fall. I'm absolutely devastated for those families. When you said, "do what any parent would do, put their life on the line for their child" I burst into tears. That's what I would have done, no hesitation. The fact that so many parents, several with weapons, were forcibly stopped from going in to protect their children.... Ugh I can't even put into words the feelings I have. Because of this, my husband and I have decided that our son will be doing online public school for the foreseeable future. Nothing our school district could tell us short of "there will be an officer at every entrance and a security guard in EVERY classroom", would ever make me feel comfortable sending him to school . Better to do it at home and attend the online school meetups and field trips than to send him somewhere I'm not sure he'll come home from.

    • @sophiegrl5914
      @sophiegrl5914 Před 2 lety

      It’s been shown cops and security guards do nothing to help. Doesn’t matter where they are it wouldn’t help. What would help would be making it a lot harder for ppl to get a hold of guns like in every other country in the world.

  • @flower3611
    @flower3611 Před 2 lety +14

    Think about how much time elapse. That one of the parents was able to drive from their home/work 40 miles to the school, cause enough trouble to get arrested, then released, she was able to convince them to let her go, climb over the school fence and get her own children out herself! That’s how much time went by but sure the cops “did their job”.

  • @zzkeokizz
    @zzkeokizz Před 2 lety +239

    I’m glad the cops got called out for constructing a narrative instead of doing their job. And if they did do their job they would have been praised - in my opinion

    • @pollytix7271
      @pollytix7271 Před 2 lety

      Or prosecuted. Many have been pulled from their jobs or even prosecuted for doing their jobs because some people for some reason have more sympathy for violent criminals than the police. When there's attitudes and movements actively working to paralyze law enforcement, don't expect them to perform great in times of crisis. People love to find a reason to bash the cops when they do their job and when they don't do their job. Nothing serious about that. Here they probably deserve the criticism from what we know, but keep it consistent and launch the criticism with good intentions.

    • @Jesusluvz
      @Jesusluvz Před 2 lety +4

      Officials constructing a narrative they want everyone to believe. Where have I heard of that before…

    • @captainsuckbutt3917
      @captainsuckbutt3917 Před 2 lety +1

      Should definitely let them know, their number is on google. It’s easily findable with one simple search.
      There’s only the one police station in their town so you know you’re talking to the right folks.
      It’s perfectly legal and ethical to ask a public servant to explain the actions they are publicly recorded doing.

  • @ZZ-qy5mv
    @ZZ-qy5mv Před 2 lety +677

    Learning about the cops just waiting and blocking parents broke me today. Even if we play by the NRA rules and buy a gun, we wouldn't be able to storm in and try to save our kids without the cops stopping us. Parents don't even have the right to go rescue their children when the cops are doing nothing. I don't understand this horror.

    • @IHateYou12342
      @IHateYou12342 Před 2 lety +6

      What would you have done? Obviously you would have died on top of that because you had no plan, you don't even know the school's layout. Getting shot because you want to play the hero just because you'd be upset doesn't make any sense, and that's why the police stop people from entering situations. Also, I doubt you have any gun training, so yeah you'd just be a +1...

    • @kristiannicholson5893
      @kristiannicholson5893 Před 2 lety

      @@IHateYou12342 You sound like kind of a piece of shit, not saying you're wrong just like a piece of shit, y'know? Like that fuck boy nobody likes who spits straight facts but still has nobody to eat lunch with, you seem like that.

    • @amaansahar5899
      @amaansahar5899 Před 2 lety

      @@IHateYou12342 im sure the parents have more knowledge on the schools layout then a random cop, and even if they would die im sure they would rather that knowing they tried and maybe even saved their child than learning their child died while they were told to wait on the sidelines.

    • @TheAssassinAK47
      @TheAssassinAK47 Před 2 lety

      @@IHateYou12342 I can tell you don’t have kids. Yes I will go in there knowing I might die. This isn’t about me. This is about a young children trapped in a room getting shot up. Once you have children their lives are way more important than yours. You have lived. They haven’t.

    • @carbvan
      @carbvan Před 2 lety

      @@IHateYou12342 Don't you have boots to lick instead of wasting everyone's time by writing this garbage? The actions of these cops are disgusting, don't act like they were helping by not letting others, with guns, willing to die for their kids inside.

  • @cgilbert210
    @cgilbert210 Před 2 lety +22

    I’m not even a parent and I’d want to go in and try and stop them. It’s crazy they waited so long. I’d be beyond myself. I feel so bad for the families. 😔

  • @emilydodson7868
    @emilydodson7868 Před 2 lety +8

    It’s being verified this morning that the Uvalde chief of police made the decision to treat the active shooting as a barricade situation WHILE KIDS WERE STILL CALLING BEGGING POLICE TO COME and therefore was having the police not go into the building. Absolutely vile and pathetic. Such an infuriating cover up for chicken sh*t behavior

    • @metherlince4223
      @metherlince4223 Před 2 lety

      Emily Acab

    • @TheMassOverride
      @TheMassOverride Před 2 lety

      I get in situations like a bank robbery that you surround the place and make barricades and wait for swat and the hostage negotiator but that's a bank robbery where the crooks are in it for money and don't want to kill a bunch of people... An active shooter going room to room killing kids isn't the kind of situation that you just sit back and wait for backup. One bullet is all it would have taken to take out the shooter, rush in and shoot the fucker, fuck even if they missed and shot a kid before being able to take down the shooter less kids would have died.... So many people died because of cowardice and stupidity

  • @traxathon4464
    @traxathon4464 Před 2 lety +585

    To everybody who sympathizes with the cops who don't wanna charge into a live shooter situation, I'd like to point out that that's like a firefighter not wanting to go into a burning building because he's afraid he might get burned. It's their fucking job that they signed up for

    • @bloomins8088
      @bloomins8088 Před 2 lety +56

      ooh, *chef kiss* yes, good point.

    • @callanc3925
      @callanc3925 Před 2 lety +94

      Or like a sky diving instructor not wanting to jump out the plane because hes scared of heights. If youre not willing to put yourself in that situation then dont get that job. If you want to walk around the streets with power over others then you better be willing to walk around a dangerous environment where youre not the only one in power.

    • @vandalluke3140
      @vandalluke3140 Před 2 lety

      Wish we could swap the kids lives out for the coward pigs tbh

    • @ctg4818
      @ctg4818 Před 2 lety +34

      They would rather give old ladies speeding tickets and get laurels for it

    • @BC-ny3zb
      @BC-ny3zb Před 2 lety

      They're shooting unarmed people because they're scared of their own shadow, there is no way they are charging into a building like that when someone can shoot back. Cowards.

  • @SaraH-jn5db
    @SaraH-jn5db Před 2 lety +602

    The cops tried harder to keep the parents out than save the kids being murdered. I hope they live with that guilt forever

    • @michellegodwin6567
      @michellegodwin6567 Před 2 lety +60

      I hope every time they close their eyes they see their victims' faces. They're just as responsible for those deaths as the shooter was.

    • @SaraphDarklaw
      @SaraphDarklaw Před 2 lety

      Those cops probably voted for politicians that allowed this to happen too.

    • @billybobmcjohnson8526
      @billybobmcjohnson8526 Před 2 lety

      The gunman barricaded himself in a room and all the children and teachers in the room were already dead. The officers were waiting for swat to breach the room. Of course they aren't going to let civilians in to get themselves killed. Stop spreading misinformation

    • @iRiDiKi
      @iRiDiKi Před 2 lety +1

      It's comments like these that will make some of those cops kill themselves. They should have gone in - but they also should have had a much better response. I think the training does not meet the expectation for this situation so that should be a focus alongside America getting rid of guns already

    • @luisyupari
      @luisyupari Před 2 lety +53

      @@michellegodwin6567 they don't care

  • @ATX_C_Hawks
    @ATX_C_Hawks Před 2 lety +4

    As someone who used to work in content moderation, I 100% agree if people actually saw the horrors that result from all these actions we’d see things happen faster.

  • @RideWithDanger
    @RideWithDanger Před 2 lety +10

    There were a lot of good guys with guns ready to save lives, and we're stopped by the police. This already horrific tragedy was made even worse by the people who were supposed to be the answer. As a parent I couldn't imagine standing by and doing nothing.

    • @seekittycat
      @seekittycat Před 2 lety

      Imagine having a shoot out with the police in order to go and shoot a gunman shooting your kids

  • @lynntinkabell10
    @lynntinkabell10 Před 2 lety +46

    Just learned earlier today that one of the teachers who passed, Irma Garcia, husband had also just passed of broken heart syndrome (sudden heart attack brought on by intense stress). I feel so heartbroken for the victims and their families

  • @RockieGO
    @RockieGO Před 2 lety +113

    ALL COPS that was there should be Fired, the People who told them to Stand back and do nothing, needs to be FIRED. if the Cops did their jobs and went in and found them or helped others out. how many would be alive now. FIRE THEM ALL !!!!! Bad Cops !!!!

    • @Sneedmire
      @Sneedmire Před 2 lety

      Their union will protect them.
      But we could discuss the abolishing of the non-elected police officer in combination with strengthening powerless parents/civilians with increased weaponry.
      Repeal the NFA.

    • @kaingates
      @kaingates Před 2 lety

      Thing is though, legally they can't be fired. They did nothing wrong legally. Meaning when up to 60% of district budgets are given to the cops, this is what you get. A bunch of losers with no interest in doing the job but taking the pay and target some teenager with pot so they can prove to their superiors that they're actually working. #DefundThePolice

  • @twiharryfan212
    @twiharryfan212 Před 2 lety +11

    The police failed. That's just the fact of the situation. In this case, the police hindered more than they helped and caused the deaths of more children. They should be ashamed for not owning up to this fact.
    They chose a dangerous profession. Those teachers did not. Those CHILDREN did not.
    Any police officer worth their salt would've been willing to risk their own life and even give their own life to at least *try* and save those children.

  • @clairekug5709
    @clairekug5709 Před 2 lety

    This was a super fun episode! I like you going thru the news like this

  • @randomnerd1015
    @randomnerd1015 Před 2 lety +248

    Teachers put their lives on the line during school shootings to protect their students. Why can’t armed and trained police do the same. Teachers are amazing. They deserve a lot more recognition and respect.

    • @Confron7a7ion7
      @Confron7a7ion7 Před 2 lety +33

      Armed and trained police who have the shooter out manned and out gunned! It was one fucking dude!

    • @itsthevoiceman
      @itsthevoiceman Před 2 lety +7

      And much more pay.

    • @kyuven
      @kyuven Před 2 lety +9

      They also deserve more pay.
      The median pay for police officers and teachers is about the same.
      If the teachers are also going to be doing the police officers' jobs for them, they should be paid more.

  • @22burnsie
    @22burnsie Před 2 lety +385

    For every Texas cop on the scene who didn’t follow protocol. You are no longer a cop. You’re not a police officer. Don’t go back to work. Get another job. That’s going to be the most important and dangerous day of your career and you did nothing. You are no longer a cop as of 2pm May 24, 2022.

    • @ZennExile
      @ZennExile Před 2 lety +7

      they did follow protocol. They are supposed to protect themselves and fellow officers until a strike team can arrive. They aren't trained to run toward active shooters and sacrifice themselves to save other people. Not even kids. They are trained to protect themselves and collect evidence. THAT'S IT.

    • @littlenerd1834
      @littlenerd1834 Před 2 lety +75

      @@ZennExile Did you watch the video? Theyre supposed to run into the building and do whatever possible to take down the shooter, thats what they even said their protocol was..

    • @jacksevert3099
      @jacksevert3099 Před 2 lety +57

      @@ZennExile if what you said was actually true (even though the cops actually broke protocol so it's not) then wouldn't that be a great reason to defund the police?

    • @rapid___
      @rapid___ Před 2 lety +76

      @@ZennExile Are you trying to tell me the guys with guns that we pay for with tax dollars aren't trained to deal with someone else that has a gun? What the fuck is the point of police having a gun then? To shoot car tires?

    • @maa-honey7979
      @maa-honey7979 Před 2 lety

      @@ZennExile that hasn’t been true since Colombine. Active shooter protocol for every law enforcement agency, local/state/fed, is the same. You hear gunshots, you go. Doesn’t matter if you’re alone or not.
      If the shots stop, you get backup and methodically go room by room. Shots start up again, you go to them and engage.
      The Ulvalde PD are cowards.

  • @nbk12nv
    @nbk12nv Před 2 lety

    I love that I can come here at the end of the day and get the news from you broken down and unfiltered.

  • @MiaThorsteinsson
    @MiaThorsteinsson Před 2 lety +1

    It's infuriating, it's something I absolutely will never be able to understand, how, if the people of a state want something done, that the leaders can just block it, because it's not in their interests. How is that democracy, when the will of the people is being overruled??

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Před 2 lety +61

    What are the odds the the police are going to play the “we’re underfunded & overworked” card to excuse the hour of time wasted before going into the school? I’m guessing they’re so low that no one in Vegas would take that bet.

    • @xtuffcookiex
      @xtuffcookiex Před 2 lety +2

      If they play that card so should the teachers then especially since two died I'm sure protecting the children .

  • @Snoopy101a
    @Snoopy101a Před 2 lety +251

    As a father, if I said what I truly want to say about every single one of those "police officers" and what they can do to make up for their lack of spine. I'd be immediately banned.

    • @thebraveguy9808
      @thebraveguy9808 Před 2 lety +18

      You wouldn't be the only one.

    • @Teh_Random_Canadian
      @Teh_Random_Canadian Před 2 lety

      They shouldn't have jobs. They are literally worse then useless... seems like cops only use force on people who are no risk to them.

    • @Golems_wrath
      @Golems_wrath Před 2 lety +1

      @@thebraveguy9808 true. And im an offensive guy to everyone..lol

    • @Sassssky
      @Sassssky Před 2 lety

      "go get shot and die for 50kpa and never see your children again because we are backwards society that values gun ownership over childrens lives?"
      Think about it.... A 9mm breaching a door Vs a positioned and waiting AR..... That's a death sentence.

    • @captainsuckbutt3917
      @captainsuckbutt3917 Před 2 lety +2

      Should definitely let them know, their number is on google. It’s easily findable with one simple search.
      There’s only the one police station in their town so you know you’re talking to the right folks.
      It’s perfectly legal and ethical to ask a public servant to explain the actions they are publicly recorded doing.

  • @Sup3rT3mp
    @Sup3rT3mp Před 2 lety

    Hi, long time viewer. Very big fan. Thank you for continuing the channel. Please make more videos like these. Sometimes celebrity news gets a little exhausting.

  • @EvieMasters
    @EvieMasters Před 2 lety

    Phil the setup is CLEAN *chefs kiss*

  • @GaryMcSnail
    @GaryMcSnail Před 2 lety +628

    The cops Iack of competency during the Texas shooting takes me back to when my university (University of Tennessee at Chattanooga) had a shooter on campus that turned out to be a false alarm. Police evacuated two campus buildings after being told the guy was in one of them. They then forced everyone to stay in the middle of the street unless they had a ride home. They couldn't leave to go to their dorm across the street. They forced them to stand in the street like targets. People were blowing up groupchats asking people to pick them up just because they wanted to leave. Turns out the suspect was a campus cop getting off duty while wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying a rifle down the road.

    • @diawolf8125
      @diawolf8125 Před 2 lety +44

      I had a similar sitution back in 2015 when I was in highschool. A bomb threat was called in by a older man to a near by best buy store and the schools solution was to take us out of the school and stand in the middle of road. Cars passing and everyone was freaked out but in the end they caught the guy and it turned out the bomb was a fake, also he had a gun so yeah.

    • @jaredglidden8334
      @jaredglidden8334 Před 2 lety +12

      I remember that day. They didn’t even bother cancelling my class in that building while the shooter was supposed to be upstairs.

    • @HBC423
      @HBC423 Před 2 lety +3

      That's my city

    • @GaryMcSnail
      @GaryMcSnail Před 2 lety +9

      ​@@jaredglidden8334 Yes! I remember that too! Professors who thought it'd be best to cancel class had to email everyone instead

    • @jendi7930
      @jendi7930 Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah that day still enrages me. I was in class, close to the end, when phones started to go off. My classmates were telling the prof what was going on and his response: "I have another class after this so go wait in the hall or something". Everyone was looking to him for what to do and he had no idea of what to do. Nobody had any idea of what to do. Nobody was prepared. Everyone was just looking at the people around them for anyone to take leadership. Thankfully it was a false alarm but what if it isn't next time? I don't think anyone at UTC is any more prepared for that kind of thing now than they were then even after that scare. There was such a lack of communication as well. I had no idea where it had happened.

  • @Tarumarugan
    @Tarumarugan Před 2 lety +238

    Those cops are accomplices. They stood around and guarded that psycho’s little funhouse of horror. If you’re a cop you’re supposed to protect the ppl not each other. Your life is SECONDARY if you’re a cop. If you’re afraid to put your life on the line don’t be a cop.

    • @RaindanceSam
      @RaindanceSam Před 2 lety +7

      Too many cops out here for the power and authority they hold over the general public. Its sick.

    • @guiltyxxspark
      @guiltyxxspark Před 2 lety

      Police have no legal obligation to protect you. They are required to enforce the law. If they just so happen to save your life by enforcing a law, that's great. But there have been several court cases that that came to that conclusion. Police have no obligation to save your life. With that said, fuck all pigs.

    • @Zenkai76
      @Zenkai76 Před 2 lety

      If the shooter was black and the police did something, we would be having a different conversation.

    • @mrgotmilk7238
      @mrgotmilk7238 Před 2 lety +1

      "your life is secondary if you're a cop" has got to be the shittiest take of all time. If you subscribe to ACAB ideology because you're too foolish to have an independent thought of your own just say it. Cops are absolutely allowed to protect themselves, and nowhere in their oath is it said they have to lay their life down for someone else's.
      Edit: however, in THIS particular scenario, I DO think they should have gone in way sooner than they did. As does everybody else. But no their lives are not secondary.

    • @Hmm-kj3fj
      @Hmm-kj3fj Před 2 lety +3

      @@Zenkai76 no.

  • @luvherlikecrazy
    @luvherlikecrazy Před 2 lety

    Wow, this was an exceptional episode.

  • @AaronHalliday
    @AaronHalliday Před 2 lety

    Loved this one!

  • @aniesastanley3659
    @aniesastanley3659 Před 2 lety +84

    As someone who has been partially trained to handle these types of situations (I know the basics of what to and not to do), those officers were dead wrong. Even if they hesitated for just a second, the moment their chief/sheriff could give them the go-ahead they should've been moving. The lack of action for so long is a major failing of the entire department.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Před 2 lety

      The protocol specific for school shooters was reported in this video to be to not wait for orders as first armed responder on the scene of an active school shooting. That standing order was very publicly put in place after the Columbine massacre, and there's no excuse for those Texas cops not knowing that. If they got orders reversing that, those reverse orders need to be investigated

    • @Prizzlesticks
      @Prizzlesticks Před 2 lety +9

      It's frustrating, because even if they couldn't move in for the first ten minutes or whatever because of policy, a full forty minutes to an hour?? Any number of those kids may have been critically injured but not beyond saving, we don't know yet. But the fact they waited while children bled out is so infuriating. If they hadn't stood around, picking their noses, they might have cleared the scene sooner so paramedics could head in and tried to save them. That's the real travesty.
      Whether it was cowardice or bureaucracy or just incompetency, I don't really care. It's a broken system, and it needs to be fixed. We arm police because of violent offenders, well. Here was the violent offender--what the hell did arming them do to save those kids? Jack squat.

    • @Rafalski7
      @Rafalski7 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Prizzlesticks
      Except police did go in. To save their kids. A mother hopped a fence and got her kids out.
      And it was a random guy whose wife a d daughter are in the school that got a shotgun and went in and cleared the building out and shot the shooter.
      Uvlde has a swat team. And the police station is 3 mins from the school.
      What is the point of a swat team?
      One dude with a shotgun and 2 cops cleared the whole school.

    • @Prizzlesticks
      @Prizzlesticks Před 2 lety +2

      @@Rafalski7 Here's the thing, I can't find a legitimate source reporting that info. I found an interview from a reporter who asked Olivarez an oddly combined question, "We heard boarder patrol agents entered the building and one was shot and injured, as well we've heard reports of some law enforcement agents entering the school to get their kids out, can you expand more on that?" Olivarez's answer is a bit odd, focusing on the injured agent and officers because that was the lead in, but stating, "Right, well what we do know is there was some law enforcement officers and families trying to get their children out of school because there was an active shooter," and then going on about the injured. That statement does not say whether the agents were on-duty, or whether they were successful in getting their children. I cannot find any other credible sources. In this same interview, the reporter says they know the shooter lived only a mile away, which has now been updated to reflect that he lived just a little further than, y'know, but about 70 miles, nbd. So I'm not sure how accurate the interview is as a whole with only preliminary information available at that time.
      THAT BEING SAID, I pretty much wrote an essay about how cops are shitty and their reports are inherently biased and we should stop turning to them and politicians as the only credible sources as journalists.
      I've also stated their response time is directly responsible for loss of life, given their feet dragging wasted precious time that paramedics may have been able to use to save the victims. Instead they had an hour to bleed out while they looked for a janitor for a damn key. We also know that police stating they changed the call from active shooter to barricaded subject because they assumed there were no living victims in the room is bullshit because a child in the classroom called dispatch multiple times begging for help up all the way up to 12:47 when police finally breeched the room, so they knew there were living survivors in there.
      Their actions are inexcusable, whether or not some went in and rescued their own children, off or on duty. It doesn't matter either way. We shouldn't be paying them exorbitant funds so they can buy all their fun SWAT toys they only use to fuck over and abuse the public while cowering from real threats, and all officers who waffled at the scene should be accessories to murder if you ask me.
      But you didn't ask me, you just ranted at me like you assumed I was defending them...? My dude, no. I just don't need to rely on questionably sourced, unconfirmed reports of one facet of failure when there are so many riper fruits to pick.
      You could argue whether on or off duty, if cops did indeed go in and rescue their kids, that's a very human thing to do and somewhat understandable. (I'd argue if they were on the clock, there's no excuse for that, they should have done their jobs, but I can see where police supporters would be coming from there--we're all human.) But I don't know if anyone can argue with the ethics of standing around and retreating from the barricaded classroom when multiple students were on the phone to 911 and begging dispatch to send in the police for over an hour and trying to cover it up by saying they thought no one was alive in there. I listen to police scanners all day as part of my job--they would all know from dispatch that students were calling in. Saving your own kids in a panic is a human mistake. Letting kids cry and beg in fear for help while twiddling your thumbs when dozens of you are there and armed? There's no defense. None. If they were afraid of getting shot, tough fucking cookies, they shouldn't have been police. There's no excuse. That's all the reason I need to denounce them.

    • @Rafalski7
      @Rafalski7 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Prizzlesticks I thi k we agree.

  • @marcialuna6228
    @marcialuna6228 Před 2 lety +177

    Hey there. Texan here. We had an award ceremony today and I was super conflicted. My heart is broken for these families that lost their babys. I get to take mine home and hug them and celebrate their accomplishments. But I’m sitting here crying for these families. Thoughts and prayers stopped being needed awhile ago. Something needs to be done.

    • @donniebentley6813
      @donniebentley6813 Před 2 lety

      Like what?

    • @marcialuna6228
      @marcialuna6228 Před 2 lety +7

      @@donniebentley6813 good question! Any suggestions?

    • @BrainAmoeba
      @BrainAmoeba Před 2 lety +17

      @@donniebentley6813 how about politicians listening to the crying and pleading families from years and years of mass shootings and finally make changes to prevent this from happening again. Stricter laws

    • @ctg4818
      @ctg4818 Před 2 lety +1

      Drag congress out by the hair

    • @nunpho
      @nunpho Před 2 lety +7

      @@BrainAmoeba I wouldn't answer, they're a troll. They just come to this channel because they don't have anything better to do with their time. They've left 188 pissy comments so far

  • @chlo2376
    @chlo2376 Před 2 lety +3

    How do so many people arguing for one door not realise what a huge fire safety risk this would be?

    • @TheMassOverride
      @TheMassOverride Před 2 lety

      Not to mention what if the shooter just camped at that one entrance? A single entrance acts like a funnel of death, literally a nightmate scenario

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen Před 2 lety +2

    Cop shoots unarmed black man: "I feared for my life!"
    Cop doesn't enter school to shoot gunman: "I feared for my life!"

  • @WorldzMo5t3pic
    @WorldzMo5t3pic Před 2 lety +204

    Hey guys, would y'all be able to look into the worrying reports that certain police officers entered the school to retrieve _their own_ children before fleeing? As well as reports of Republican senators(?) calling for a 10 day recess before they discuss any sort of gun reform? Thanks.
    Apart from that I unfortunately have to mention that the husband of murdered Robb Elementary teacher Irma Garcia has tragically passed away from a heart attack. He and his wife were taken from their 4 children.

    • @Zman44444
      @Zman44444 Před 2 lety +19

      Fuck… that’s.. rough. Jesus Christ what a tragedy..

    • @jzzisk
      @jzzisk Před 2 lety +32

      Sources confirm that “he died two days after the shooting following his wife’s death” Man literally died of a broken heart, Rest In Peace to Irma and Joe Garcia.

    • @id1550
      @id1550 Před 2 lety +1

      What gun reform would you like to see?

    • @davidg5041
      @davidg5041 Před 2 lety +1

      And what’s wrong with having a recess after an event like this before discussing legislation? lol I guess if you want laws to be written based off feelings and emotions to a horrible event then that’s terrible.
      But for those of us who want logic and reason to be the basis of our laws taking 10 days before discussing new legislation seems perfectly reasonable.

    • @katiewhitley5422
      @katiewhitley5422 Před 2 lety +40

      @@davidg5041 No. They've had decades to do something and make a decision. This is their job and they need to get off their asses and do it.

  • @lisi9843
    @lisi9843 Před 2 lety +93

    To really feel what happened in Texas, I tried to truly put myself into those shoes, tried to imagine being a mother of a 4th grader hearing about the shooting and hoping to whatever entity is out there that it wasn't my child's class, and I couldn't even imagine the absolute wails of pure pain I would let out if I knew my elementary age child was shot and killed. I try and think about being in that classroom that was absolutely massacred, I try and picture seeing what those 19 children saw right before they died. It's heartbreaking, it's what really gives me the drive to want to go rally and protest people who refuse to make changes to fix this. It makes me what to just scream from the rooftops, begging for something to change. It just absolutely rattles me to my core thinking about all of it.

  • @nate186
    @nate186 Před 2 lety

    Hi Phil, I'm on the wrong video, but just wanted to say thanks for putting me on to Emily D. Baker's channel, I've had my eyes glued to the Depp v Heard case and she's very entertaining and informative. So thank you!

  • @anothermcplayer8412
    @anothermcplayer8412 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoyed this typ of show!

  • @curiousconfused
    @curiousconfused Před 2 lety +26

    I was worried that the reason police weren't going in was because of some bureaucratic bs but to learn that they just weren't following protocol makes it so much worse

    • @wayneoberg7508
      @wayneoberg7508 Před 2 lety

      They wanted to wait for border patrol isn't much better. They don't have that much better equipment.

  • @truelove1517
    @truelove1517 Před 2 lety +181

    My personal opinion is every cop that was immediately there but didnt go in to stop the shooter should be charged with manslaughter. No way you use any type of excuse to let an active shooter have an entire hour to do whatever they felt like before going to stop them

    • @submissivelover
      @submissivelover Před 2 lety +6

      They're not actually legally compelled to help or save anyone

    • @jacksevert3099
      @jacksevert3099 Před 2 lety +8

      @@submissivelover so defund them then?

    • @scottg3192
      @scottg3192 Před 2 lety

      @@submissivelover Isn't the motto... you know... "protect and serve"?
      The only people they were serving was their own cowardly asses.

    • @submissivelover
      @submissivelover Před 2 lety +15

      @@jacksevert3099 or abolish them entirely, they barely do their job n when they don't, there's no legal repercussions ... Dissolve them, save 123 billion we waste annually

    • @smilingdonkforu9155
      @smilingdonkforu9155 Před 2 lety +2

      @@submissivelover then they shouldn’t have stopped the parents from helping

  • @NostroNugz
    @NostroNugz Před 2 lety

    Phil, this is a great format. I’m glad you decided to give some external ideas a try

  • @MaddizonDannie
    @MaddizonDannie Před 2 lety

    Thank you. This was*the* episode for opinions.

  • @rwmack3523
    @rwmack3523 Před 2 lety +36

    "Good guy with a gun" means the parents having guns because if cops don't wanna do their sole purpose in uniform to protect the community, parents sure as fuck will

    • @undeniable_1562
      @undeniable_1562 Před 2 lety +1

      They did and were threatened with being tased, they even jumped a parent and took him down.

  • @crystalpolice
    @crystalpolice Před 2 lety +19

    I very much appreciate how you included the sound clip at the end. Had it been my child's elementary school, I would have been livid, enraged to see the police not rushing in. I cried and felt the rage just watching it. Like Beto says, "Now is the time to stop the next shooting."

  • @devilsadvocate1597
    @devilsadvocate1597 Před 2 lety +2

    Police: We didn't have time to go in there...
    we were too busy stopping the parents from saving their childrens lives!

  • @katiez688
    @katiez688 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for covering this! I live in Texas. Uvalde is in a beautiful part of the state with a tight knit community. The police and politicians have failed us.

  • @SilverBlazeX
    @SilverBlazeX Před 2 lety +159

    This hit home to me because Uvalde is literally a drive away. I have peers and friends who are related to victims. We are all hurting so much. Please vote Texas. Thanks De Franco for giving this the attention it deserves. ♥️🙏🏽

    • @milesmorra5910
      @milesmorra5910 Před 2 lety

      Where the fuck is Uvalde??? Is that some small hick town? Sounds like nowhere I live in Dallas and never heard of it.

    • @bobby7703
      @bobby7703 Před 2 lety

      Vote for gun control? So that we can instead rely on these incompetent cops?

    • @coralrose5754
      @coralrose5754 Před 2 lety +1

      Wishing the best for your community

    • @milesmorra5910
      @milesmorra5910 Před 2 lety +1

      @@coralrose5754 no you

    • @Riplee86
      @Riplee86 Před 2 lety

      @@coralrose5754 Wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one gets filled up first.

  • @UnscaryGhosts
    @UnscaryGhosts Před 2 lety +146

    Cops: We can't go in there he's got a gun and that's scary
    Everyone Demanding changes to the 2nd amendment: *Yeah no shit*

    • @Sneedmire
      @Sneedmire Před 2 lety

      Repeal the NFA.
      Repeal ALL Federal Gun Laws.
      Abolish Non-Elected Police forces/dismantle the unions.

    • @Rafalski7
      @Rafalski7 Před 2 lety

      The second amended existed since USA was made. Mass school shootings started in the 90s.
      So... What changed? It wasn't guns.

    • @linaaviles1971
      @linaaviles1971 Před 2 lety +2

      They’re the same who scream “WE JUST NEED A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN” when we talk about the reform

    • @Rafalski7
      @Rafalski7 Před 2 lety

      @@linaaviles1971 like the female who killed a black man who opened fire with a AR-15 at a birthday party the day after the uvlde Texas shooting.
      Funny how they don't give as much attention when a good perosn with a gun kills a shooter.

  • @vikkipink1288
    @vikkipink1288 Před 2 lety

    I think covering the news this long has started getting to Phil. We love you Phil and I’m sorry that people suck so much 🥺💜

  • @Beniled
    @Beniled Před 2 lety +1

    Those weren't "Good guys with guns" those were cowards with guns.

  • @karrachr000
    @karrachr000 Před 2 lety +84

    Back when I was in Police Explorers, I assisted SWAT teams train for school shootings. At the time, for the jurisdiction we were in, the rule was: as soon as you have 4 officers on scene, you enter the school and move directly towards the shooter. When SWAT arrives, you yield to them and relegate your team to evacuation and EMT.

    • @bcarroll03
      @bcarroll03 Před 2 lety +1

      Why four? How many kids can die while you wait?

    • @nicholascurtis2543
      @nicholascurtis2543 Před 2 lety +6

      @@bcarroll03 cause thats the number of personnel you need to preform basic CQB

    • @bcarroll03
      @bcarroll03 Před 2 lety

      sounds like a good way to allow a psycho to shoot a bunch of kids instead of shooting at cops.

  • @dena81
    @dena81 Před 2 lety +80

    I agree with Quinta, I'm 40 and we've had many of those after school specials. If reality of seeing kids REALLY shot doesn't get in the people's heads why do you think it would if a fake scenario showed it? The ones we want to get to won't care until the money goes away.

    • @hillbillypowpow
      @hillbillypowpow Před 2 lety

      Sounds like some redditor-meme shit that would be placed over some soyjack picture. "I just don't get it" while watching actual children be shot and die, compared to "oh its just like on my TV shows!"

    • @Rafalski7
      @Rafalski7 Před 2 lety

      You'll lose a few kids every year. If you take away America's guns you'll lose america for ever child.
      Look at venuzuela. What happened when they gave their guns away? Did you watch the military kill civilian's

  • @Faendal91
    @Faendal91 Před 2 lety

    Herschel Walker's response is how I sound when called on in class to answer a question when I wasn't paying attention to the lecture.

  • @CreatureVision
    @CreatureVision Před 2 lety +1

    chef brophy was one of my instructors. He was such a kind and gentle soul. He didn’t deserve what happened to him. We were all so scared and confused. We honestly thought a homeless person had followed him in and killed him. He loved his wife. He always endearingly referred to her as “management” as in; “I will have to run this by management first.” RIP Chef Brophy. We miss you.

  • @Otakuaudi
    @Otakuaudi Před 2 lety +80

    Those poor parents stuck outside that school. I would have barreled through those cops if my kid was in there. I hope those parents sue the crap out of that police department and school

    • @ravennc5964
      @ravennc5964 Před 2 lety

      The cops would probably just shoot any parents rushing the building.

    • @mrchiefbs
      @mrchiefbs Před 2 lety +27

      @@vinezero you're so clueless. Parents wanted to go in.

    • @mask9465
      @mask9465 Před 2 lety +20

      @@vinezero They made a mistake anyways, at least if they went in they had the CHANCE to save kids' lives. What use are the police and what are they being funded for if they don't do what's expected of them? What is the point of their tactical gear if they don't go into situations where that type of gear is needed?

    • @jessie6600
      @jessie6600 Před 2 lety

      @@mrchiefbs you can’t just let parents go into an active shooter situation

    • @caesarspeaks
      @caesarspeaks Před 2 lety

      And you would’ve exacerbated the situation and made yourself a victim of the gunman and made the cops’ jobs even harder.

  • @albertnormal6834
    @albertnormal6834 Před 2 lety +27

    Sad, but nothing will change until it happens to and directly affects the politicians themselves.

    • @Oozes_Dark
      @Oozes_Dark Před 2 lety

      We have to wait until there’s a school shooting in DC :(

  • @Emily-lb1sn
    @Emily-lb1sn Před 2 lety +1

    I don't work at a school but we do have annual active shooter trainings. I remember being told that the #1 priority of the police is to get the shooter, not tend to the wounded or do anything else, and that we needed to do exactly what they say. I remember this one officer telling us that if an active shooter comes into work, if the police officer tells you to leave, go, but leave with your hands up and fingers spread apart so they know you are unarmed. Granted, I don't work at a school but these instructions square with what the school security expert said.

  • @jaytravis2487
    @jaytravis2487 Před 2 lety

    Nice hoodie philip. Btw this format totally works. Props to your video editor. P.s.:. Add a moving grain filter/live static to the background image to make it seem less like a still frame

  • @azalon2035
    @azalon2035 Před 2 lety +95

    Just wanna say Phil, really enjoyed the humor at the start of the essay murder segment. Added a sprinkle of something other than the world is fucked and I appreciated it.

    • @fl00d69
      @fl00d69 Před 2 lety

      The world is fine. It's America that is fucked.

  • @Ask8613
    @Ask8613 Před 2 lety +177

    The law enforcement at that school grossly failed their job. Saving their kids and blocking other parents and not going in. What a disgrace

    • @patrickengelking1917
      @patrickengelking1917 Před 2 lety +6

      They didnt fail at their job. They did exactly what they were trained to do. This is just showing the reality of what we think police are supposed to do vs what they actually do.

    • @Ask8613
      @Ask8613 Před 2 lety +40

      @@patrickengelking1917 he just said they were supposed to go to the shooter and stop the threat and they DIDN'T. That's a failure to do what they claim they've trained them to do and has been policy for the last 2 years

    • @jer9grant
      @jer9grant Před 2 lety +15

      I was recently reminded that SCOTUS ruled police, as part of their job, are not required to endanger their lives to protect the people.
      People do not know what the police's 'job' actually is. We are learning, and it's terrible.

    • @monkey80148
      @monkey80148 Před 2 lety

      @@jer9grant if thats where we are in society where police are there to save themselves and not the civilians they are there to "protect and serve" then whats the point of police. That is a bad argument, and a bad ruling by the SCOTUS. Shame on anyone who peddles that line like it means the police didn't fail their job to protect, for the umpteenth time, literal children.

    • @d1vin1ty
      @d1vin1ty Před 2 lety +7

      @@jer9grant What's horrifying is exactly that. How many of these police have kids and stood there not putting their trained lives on the line knowing they would expect and do the same if it were their kid? I can understand the rational selfishness of that, but it just seems so bizarre to me as a parent. I couldn't imagine not taking that risk if I had tactical training, a vest, and a gun.

  • @SarahGriffiths1994
    @SarahGriffiths1994 Před 2 lety +1

    my heart breaks for the families of these children, I cannot imagine what it must be like to watch people who have sworn to protect fail at their job especially in a situation like this.
    it is so fucked that those in power are putting the freedom to own a gun above the lives of those innocent children. when is enough going to be enough?
    and although I know it isn't much I'm sending love, hugs and good vibes from the UK to whoever needs them right now 💕💕

  • @Pulang_Diwa
    @Pulang_Diwa Před 2 lety

    I like this format. Kudos to the person who emailed the suggestion. It's like grassroots Phil Defranco.

  • @oakleybrittan
    @oakleybrittan Před 2 lety +43

    Phil man I'm not gonna lie, you need a "Some Good News" segment. Not just for us but also so you have some more feel good news start popping up in your feed.

    • @dd4850
      @dd4850 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s really important to focus on the bad sometimes. If we keep covering it with much smaller “good stuff” we will never focus on the problem

    • @TheMassOverride
      @TheMassOverride Před 2 lety

      simply cowards who let kids die to protect themselves... They took an oath to uphold the law and to serve & protect the people of their community... They failed... Not only did they fail they actively caused more deaths

  • @fatmoogle4560
    @fatmoogle4560 Před 2 lety +117

    I can't imagine how powerless those parents felt. This is infuriating.

    • @Sneedmire
      @Sneedmire Před 2 lety

      Remember that feeling.
      The "good guys" with the guns are useless; the deranged exist to cause harm and commit acts of evil.
      We can talk mental health, we can talk abolishing non-elected police officers, but to say we should keep the those powerless parents disarmed is a foolish notion.
      Gun control only empowers the biggest street gang out there: metro police forces...

  • @FallenReborn
    @FallenReborn Před 2 lety

    I'm really glad you included the response to reporters from Beto O'Rourke at the end of the video.

  • @jdwest34
    @jdwest34 Před 2 lety

    Thanks

    • @Prince.Ea1
      @Prince.Ea1 Před 2 lety

      ◾ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛɪɴɢ, ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ sᴀᴠʏ ᴊᴀᴅᴇɴ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs

  • @marley8976
    @marley8976 Před 2 lety +23

    There's also the story coming out now of a group of kids that were being held at gunpoint by the gunman in the school and the police, from outside, tell the kids they have to yell out to them to let the police know they need help. During an active shooter situation the police told kids to yell when that is the opposite of any advice/instructions from scheduled drills. The worst part is that one little girl did yell out to the police after this and the shooter noticed her and shot and killed her. I am just in disbelief how inept and apathetic these officers were.

  • @crosslegluke4506
    @crosslegluke4506 Před 2 lety +29

    "You don't need guns for self defense because we have police."
    The Police:

    • @AleTitan
      @AleTitan Před 2 lety +1

      To be fair, I doubt the cops would have allowed a parent to rush in. They would have probably shot/tazed them before they got anywhere near a door

  • @andrealityisgone
    @andrealityisgone Před 2 lety

    I'm an emergency department nurse. Part of my job puts me in danger everyday. But when someone needs help, I do not hesitate to step in and help them. If someone needs help, the danger is secondary. If a life can be saved, you step in.

  • @DYTnetwork
    @DYTnetwork Před 2 lety

    I'm an accredited active shooter response instructor; I've trained hundreds of private security officers, police officers, and even federal agents and the training has always been, "get in the fight," stop the shooter as fast as possible. You do not delay for any reason in an active shooter situation. My heart goes out to these parents and as a nation we desperately need gun reform.

  • @betsyb
    @betsyb Před 2 lety +93

    when you CHOOSE to be a police officer, you are CHOOSING to put your life on the line to save people. at least, that’s what it SHOULD be about

    • @pollytix7271
      @pollytix7271 Před 2 lety +3

      Should increase their training and ability to do their jobs as flawlessly as possible and remove those who don't meet the standards. There's still people who want to replace them with social workers and remove the amount of police officers by defunding the whole structure. Note how quiet they have become lately even though their criminal martyr just passed the 2 year anniversary.

    • @thebraveguy9808
      @thebraveguy9808 Před 2 lety +8

      @@pollytix7271 yes, because all that additional training worked so well in the past with all the different situations similar to George Floyd's that officers have encountered in the past. Glad to see that funding at work.

    • @Sneedmire
      @Sneedmire Před 2 lety

      @@thebraveguy9808 You're not wrong, but gun control will empower the biggest street gang that exists in the US:
      Metro police officers and their unions.
      "Abolish the police" is incorrect, but can be adjusted to slightly be more... productive.
      Abolish the NON-ELECTED police, dismantle the unions, and arm the citizenry with equal weaponry to law enforcement.
      Gun laws do not stop the deranged.
      Gun laws do not stop the criminals.

    • @SteeZy644
      @SteeZy644 Před 2 lety +3

      @@pollytix7271 increase the enormous amount of money already given to police? Most of the budget in Uvdale went to the police force who sat idly by as a shooter took 21 lives. Defunding the police looks stronger now than it did in 2020.

    • @TheMassOverride
      @TheMassOverride Před 2 lety

      I say raise police salaries... But make the requirements & training 10x harder and weed out all the bad apples with biases or mental health issues or just cowards

  • @Djynni
    @Djynni Před 2 lety +16

    If a police officer is too scared to confront a shooter, they should not be a police officer. That is their job. Just like it is the job of a fire fighter to go into a burning building or the job of a soldier to go into a warzone.

  • @shihaanmerza8309
    @shihaanmerza8309 Před 2 lety

    Buddy you going through and reacting to news is a great idea for a twitch stream or stream. in general. if you wanted to ofcourse. love ya

  • @PuReScRuB
    @PuReScRuB Před 2 lety

    First 2 Texas officers: " you going in, nah"
    "me neither, let's just stand here"

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 Před 2 lety +23

    Cops shouldn’t be cops if they’re not willing to face danger

    • @tenin982000
      @tenin982000 Před 2 lety

      by law they're not there to protect you

    • @user-xr4wp3wj5m
      @user-xr4wp3wj5m Před 2 lety

      @@tenin982000 so what’s their purpose

    • @tenin982000
      @tenin982000 Před 2 lety

      @@user-xr4wp3wj5m well I wished I could answer that with a simple answer. Problem is being a cop sucks in multiple ways. Your life on the line to being held back by politicians to bosses. Could they have done a better job yes. But at same time I'm no bootlicker. There are a lot of things wrong with cops from 6 months training to not knowing laws to abuse of power to hiding shit from the people. People should always film police. It's legal to do. The problem with the story right now is a bunch of conflicting information. Why was he allowed to get in the school that easily. Where I used to live all doors were locked except the main entrance at all school

  • @GrandMagusDK
    @GrandMagusDK Před 2 lety +30

    I remember a shooting where there was actually a cop at the school, but he locked himself in his office while the PE Teacher died protecting his students... So much for the good guy with the gun huh.

    • @scottg3192
      @scottg3192 Před 2 lety +3

      A job that gives a nobody power over others will attract small people who need to feel big.

    • @davidg5041
      @davidg5041 Před 2 lety

      Sounds like in that case there wasn’t a good guy with a gun. Just a coward who was armed.
      Pretty sure the guys who took the shooter in uvalde out had guns but yeah. Let’s get rid of all the guns. Evil people wanting to harm innocents will definitely follow gun laws.

    • @scottg3192
      @scottg3192 Před 2 lety

      @@davidg5041 I mean, there's still gun crime in other countries, because obviously you can't completely stop black market deals, but it is more expensive and harder to do than just walk into a shop and then leave with a gun.
      The issue is how readily availbe legal guns are to so many people wihtout having any decent checks or training.

  • @tuckervanburen8314
    @tuckervanburen8314 Před 2 lety

    Loved the last bit

  • @lindsaysedgwick
    @lindsaysedgwick Před 2 lety +57

    Thank you Phil for dealing with such sensitive topics in the tactful way you do. You don't get enough credit.

    • @Nuovoswiss
      @Nuovoswiss Před 2 lety

      It's not tactful, he's straight up advocating for democrat anti-gun policy. There are many reasons why we don't pass those so-called "common sense" gun control laws.

    • @lindsaysedgwick
      @lindsaysedgwick Před 2 lety

      @@Nuovoswiss spread love ✌️

  • @stoshu9584
    @stoshu9584 Před 2 lety +92

    Heavily-armed cops continue to prove that they are only ever willing to take lethal action against an unarmed target. Cowardice manifest.

  • @Tiffanado
    @Tiffanado Před 2 lety

    Uvalde is my hometown. 4 years ago the shooter was arrested for making threats to shoot up a school in 2022 when he turned 18. But they let him go.

  • @michellekennedy4426
    @michellekennedy4426 Před 2 lety

    Wow,that audio clip at the end broke my heart a little bit.

  • @sandersonsister_11
    @sandersonsister_11 Před 2 lety +25

    "Good guy with a gun vs bad guy with a gun at ONE DOOR" seems also like a bad fire hazard waiting to happen. They are sick and stupid.

    • @Oozes_Dark
      @Oozes_Dark Před 2 lety +1

      I think the argument is one entrance, many exits

    • @sandersonsister_11
      @sandersonsister_11 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Oozes_Dark That would make more sense. It sounded to me like they were saying just one door over all, or at least thats the image I got in my head when I read that. It would probably still be a nightmare in general.

    • @Sneedmire
      @Sneedmire Před 2 lety +1

      They're ALL bad guys.
      None of the citizens had guns, but the police did. The bad guy did.
      Now look at the result. Tragedy.

    • @arlaux1099
      @arlaux1099 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Oozes_Dark Every exit is an entrence if you try hard enough.

    • @sandersonsister_11
      @sandersonsister_11 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Sneedmire I agree with you. I hope they suffer consequences. The shooter got what he wanted and even died for it. The police on duty should answer for how they failed their community.