Why US Manufacturers Stopped Making V8 Semi-Truck Engines?

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  • @TruckTropia
    @TruckTropia  Před 9 měsíci +2

    see How The Manufacturers BROKE The Classic Truck? czcams.com/video/Y6wuCfmzwm4/video.html

  • @donmunro144
    @donmunro144 Před 10 měsíci +52

    Not all your information is correct. Many inline 6's use a twin cam design as well and most v8s use a single cam design.

  • @mojavedesert519
    @mojavedesert519 Před 9 měsíci +21

    I've owned close to 100 power units in a small trucking company since the 70's. I've ran inline 6's and V-8's from Cummins, Cat and Detroit. The 903 (V-8) Cummins got better fuel mileage but was a maintenance and repair nightmare. The inline Cummins wasn't far behind the 903's in repairs, but were easy to work on. I didn't run that many Cats, but had nothing but good luck with the 3406B. But my favorite of them all, in spite of their chronic oil leaks was the V8 2 stroke Detroit namely the 8V-71. The fuel mileage was comparable to others, but those old "Yamahas", like the Energizer Bunny just kept going and going.

    • @dedubh8016
      @dedubh8016 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Many a mile and many hours were put on the Ole Driptroits

  • @jayjaynella4539
    @jayjaynella4539 Před 9 měsíci +26

    You forget to mention that electric trucks will need to be recharged using coal or gas fired power stations.

    • @steven4315
      @steven4315 Před 9 měsíci

      Haven't smelled coal smoke since I was a child and we used it to heat our home. I smell diesel exhaust everyday.

    • @AdrianHepburn-vz9yr
      @AdrianHepburn-vz9yr Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@steven4315 As Elon Musk says going electric on transport will necessitate a 30% increase in electricity generation...

    • @steven4315
      @steven4315 Před 9 měsíci

      @@AdrianHepburn-vz9yr Over many years, about as long as it took to go to AC becoming common.

    • @77.88.
      @77.88. Před 8 měsíci +1

      When these charging stations take control the prices of recharging will go through the roof, that is the way of corporate America Right BLACK ROCK and the other two?

    • @jolibethrodriguez7471
      @jolibethrodriguez7471 Před 5 měsíci

      Even if they need is still more efficent to burn the coal or gas in big static engines than in a small mobile engine
      Also renewables are evolving constantly, at this point is all politics andomey

  • @gm16v149
    @gm16v149 Před 9 měsíci +28

    I’ve got a 3408 in my truck and it’s been incredibly reliable and that’s what counts where I live in Australia. If it blows up tomorrow I’ll still have had an amazing run out of it.

    • @UltraMagaFan
      @UltraMagaFan Před 8 měsíci +2

      Why wouldn’t you rebuild it? Cat still makes parts for their on highway engines. There’s incredible aftermarket support for them too. You can get new parts for it.

  • @user-jp7rk1uf2n
    @user-jp7rk1uf2n Před 10 měsíci +26

    Never late with a 3408!

    • @IndigenousAmericanTrucker
      @IndigenousAmericanTrucker Před měsícem

      I can't wait to experience the 3408 CAT! I've experienced the 3406B, which I loved btw. Is the 3408 also mechanical? I've never had the chance to drive a V8 big truck. They stopped the 3408 1985, the year I was born, lol. So, yeah, it's before my time, lol!

  • @12345anton6789
    @12345anton6789 Před 10 měsíci +32

    Volvo stopped the production of the Mack V8 engine when they bought the company. This engine was a joint venture development between Scania and Mack that started in the mid 1960’s. But Volvo as Scania’s main competitor didn’t want their new brand “Mack” to keep on with this partnership, they wanted to promote their own 16L inline6 in the Mack trucks.
    Maybe it would have been better if Scania and Mack had merged? They had many different joint ventures and benefited both from this.

    • @tonysilliker5977
      @tonysilliker5977 Před 9 měsíci

      Anton It was actually Renault who had Mack as the Mack V8 is in many of the Magnum Trucks. The Ultra liner is a Renault cab and the Ultra liner 2 is a Renault Magnum cab. Eventually Renault was bought out by Volvo when the 2nd generation FL was released as this cab was used on the Renault Premium. I know these things as I'm staunch Volvo I own 3 T5R's and a FM double drive Tractor unit all Lady's of leisure. An my 2 daily driver's are a V70 D5R and a S60 D5s. There's not much I don't know about Volvo....

    • @12345anton6789
      @12345anton6789 Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@tonysilliker5977 scania and Mack startet their relationship long before Renault came in as a shareholder in 1979. Mach already had their V8 at that time. One can say that Renault used the V8 developed by Scania/Mack in the mid 1960’s

    • @WieDrDerJonge
      @WieDrDerJonge Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@12345anton6789 No, the Scania and Mack V8 are not related. 2 completly different engines.

    • @12345anton6789
      @12345anton6789 Před 9 měsíci

      @@WieDrDerJonge scania and Mack started a joint development of the V8 in the early 1960. Mack actually made the engine block for both companies for several years, it was not economical to produce the same engine block in different places due to low volume. The engines has exactly the same displacement and still today the current Scania V8 is largely based on the Scania/Mack engine block that they developed together

    • @WieDrDerJonge
      @WieDrDerJonge Před 9 měsíci

      @@12345anton6789 No, two completly different engines. Scania's DS14 is 14.2L and has 8 seperate cylinder heads. The Mack E9 is 16.3L and uses 4 cylinder heads.

  • @dvereckis
    @dvereckis Před 8 měsíci +3

    I am a V8 diesel addict. I have a CAT 3208 10.4L V8 diesel in a 1985 Chevrolet C70 Kodiak single axle dump box (former plow truck), a Detroit fuel pincher 8.1L V8 diesel in a 1983 C60 bus, then in light trucks a 1997 Suburban with Detroit 6.5L V8 diesel, a 1992 GMC Savana Van witn a Detroit 6.2L V8 diesel (will be a doner for a pickup), and my last V8 diesel is a 1981 Chevrolet C10 2wd with a 5.7L V8 diesel but I do have 4 diesel tractors and a 1981 Mercedes 300d and 1992 Jetta diesel even though there not v8's. However my favorite Detroit Diesel is the series 60

  • @jammiedodger7040
    @jammiedodger7040 Před 10 měsíci +20

    V8’s are the best.

    • @youssef1770
      @youssef1770 Před 9 měsíci +3

      V8 MOTORS HELL YEAH BROTHER

    • @markdubois4882
      @markdubois4882 Před 6 měsíci

      If you're talking Detroit.....you can always go to the V12.

  • @Low760
    @Low760 Před 10 měsíci +25

    The Scania v8 is still pushrod so one camshaft.

  • @JohnSmith-cf4gn
    @JohnSmith-cf4gn Před 9 měsíci +14

    I started out on a cabover White Freightliner in 1980. It was a 1974. It had a 903 Cummings V8. It had a 10 spd road ranger transmission. It would wind up too quick. A straight 6 is much better for pulling loads and taking off. I was pulling a load, not running a race. I discovered this when I started driving inline 6 cylinders.

    • @mojavedesert519
      @mojavedesert519 Před 9 měsíci +2

      You're right about those 903's winding up:)

  • @chrisleggett685
    @chrisleggett685 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I drove a hopped up 3408 with a 6x4 across town once. It drove like a fast car compared to an inline 6.

  • @alextepozteco3681
    @alextepozteco3681 Před 9 měsíci +5

    My dad still runs his old K100 it's powered by a detroit 8V92T it's his backup truck so it doesn't see the road as much anymore

  • @chadsykes2067
    @chadsykes2067 Před 9 měsíci +18

    The inline 6 is the most balanced design, many v8's will develop cracks in the block before they hit a million miles where as a Cummins 6bt has reached 3 million miles without a rebuild. They use inline motors because it's the longest lasting motor design their is.

    • @kengribaudo409
      @kengribaudo409 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Wrong

    • @carwashadamcooper1538
      @carwashadamcooper1538 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Tell the 8v-71 that it's not as good as a 6cyl..
      It'll laugh at you while pissing oil on your leg.

    • @babydriver8134
      @babydriver8134 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'm with you.
      7 main bearings versus 5.
      HELLO!

    • @babydriver8134
      @babydriver8134 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@carwashadamcooper1538
      LOL
      pissing oil is right.

  • @thfmlymn4498
    @thfmlymn4498 Před 9 měsíci +2

    My dad had a Ford D series 28ton 6x4 flat deck with the Cummins 7.7 V8.
    I remember that sound vividly to this date

  • @davidchapman1519
    @davidchapman1519 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Don't worry everyone. My collection has plenty of detroit v motors

  • @adamjacobadamson
    @adamjacobadamson Před 10 měsíci +35

    Suggestion: All European Truck Brands Ranked from Worst to Best

    • @TruckTropia
      @TruckTropia  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Thanks 👍

    • @mini_grzesio2160
      @mini_grzesio2160 Před 10 měsíci

      I can surely tell you, that Iveco is THE SHITTIEST EU truck brand

    • @MiyanoShuumei
      @MiyanoShuumei Před 9 měsíci

      MAN has nice styling but isn’t great and I think Volvo is super overrated

    • @johan8724
      @johan8724 Před 9 měsíci

      I like the older european trucks , not the crap they build now. The dashboards look like shit nowadays and they start using camera's and screens in stead of mirrors. I think of quitting the job very soon.

    • @shaggings
      @shaggings Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@MiyanoShuumeican't say yet due to not having long experience with new Volvos, but do the new ones still have wiring harness issues?

  • @kengribaudo409
    @kengribaudo409 Před 9 měsíci +3

    My 3208cat has always run great. 360hp.

  • @user73ht3
    @user73ht3 Před měsícem +1

    V8 has his own fanbase ❤

  • @DexMaster881
    @DexMaster881 Před 9 měsíci +3

    What most people don't want to understand is Less cylinders results in less Fuel consumption and fewer emissions Not only Due to Engine size.
    If you take One displacement, lets say 12L engine and Make a V8 and an Inline 6. The weight of 1 Piston in the i6 will be More than One piston in the V8. But combined i6 pistons will weigh about 25% less.
    There's a minimum weight demanded to have enough material to withstand the forces of combustion, and with increase in Bore that raises only slightly. Way less than adding new pistons. Also Other components weight significantly more due to extra Crank counterweights etc.
    All of that produces resistance and inertia that demands more fuel to Just move on Idle.
    i4 would use even less fuel but it would need to be significantly taller and It would start to have Torque gaps because of no Combustion overlap. so is kind of Ideal for Truck Diesel speeds and rpm. Some EU tractors use i4s now but before they used i6 exclusively. Like 100-180hp farm tractors always had a i6 now many have i4's.
    i6 is also a very naturally well balanced engine with very little need for extra balancing shafts and other stuff. V8 especially Traditional US non Flatplane isn't. And no one makes Flatplane diesels because they don't spin fast enough to gain from it.
    All of this applies to pollution too.
    When it comes to EU nothing compares to Scania V8 and Mercedes V6 and V8, but they are just not realistic anymore. Especially in EU new 6 cylinders sound like shit but the Power and torque, reliability and fuel consumption is amazing.
    SCANIA kind of has to Hold on to the V8 because it has a lot of Fans with a Cult mentality. V8 is still not needed since the 2000s in Europe we can make Straight 6's with 900hp no problem.

    • @goforitrazz
      @goforitrazz Před 9 měsíci

      Scania engine in a Moxy articulated truck was the sweetest running straight six I have seen.

  • @Alex462047
    @Alex462047 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I run a YMZ 658 in a MAZ 5440. It's performance and fuel efficiency is superior to straight sixes of the same era. To be honest, it is harder to get into certain things (I work on it myself), but it is a very simple engine to maintain.

  • @daledavies2334
    @daledavies2334 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Prior to the truck 3408, Cat had a DOHC four valve engine. The Cat 657 scraper had the V8 in the front and an inline 6 for the rear engine. That DOHC 6 was also available for trucks.

  • @jayski8987
    @jayski8987 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Best sounding V-8 Diesel is the Series 92 Detroit.

    • @anareel4562
      @anareel4562 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Spinning 3k rpm, sounds like it's revving at 8k

    • @mojavedesert519
      @mojavedesert519 Před 9 měsíci

      That's how they got their name "Screamin' Jimmy."@@anareel4562

    • @niilokorpi9826
      @niilokorpi9826 Před 9 měsíci

      You haven’t listened to the DS14!

    • @Nikowalker007
      @Nikowalker007 Před 9 měsíci

      And 16L Scania v8 with straight pipe as well ..

    • @markdubois4882
      @markdubois4882 Před 6 měsíci

      Then there's the Buzzin dozen...14 litre V-12 2-stroke Detroit.

  • @Guds777
    @Guds777 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Just by converting to Diesel Electric they can increase the efficiency up to 25-30% over night. Keeping the engine always at the same RPM under constant load makes it pollute less and utilize the power better. Also the cool thing about Diesel is you can basically get 0 pollutants out of the exhaust. You do need certain equipment to do so but combining Diesel Electric with the right equipment can keep the Diesel on the road for the next decade...

  • @georgeoldsterd8994
    @georgeoldsterd8994 Před 10 měsíci +4

    - And that's why I put 8 cylinders into this thing.
    *gets surrounded in an ambush*
    - Well, maybe you should have put in 12! (c)

  • @gregmeredith8753
    @gregmeredith8753 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Frist thing Int. you showed a 4300 transtar truck not a 430 Int.

  • @markdubois4882
    @markdubois4882 Před 6 měsíci +1

    12V71 2-stroke Detroit: Hold my tailpipe!

  • @mongolordofdarkness
    @mongolordofdarkness Před 9 měsíci +5

    V8s were dropped because the extra weight is a penalty really. About 1,000 lbs or more weight difference. V8s make more torque and lower in the range but not needed unless weight restrictions are raised.

    • @shaggings
      @shaggings Před 9 měsíci

      Even in Finland with a rather high weight limit, the V8 Scanias are not that necessary. 500hp can get the job done, sure with max load they really struggle to get moving but it can do it, 560-600HP is enough really, any more than that is unnecessary unless the terrain where you work is quite hilly or do overwwight special transport.

  • @draymanil
    @draymanil Před 7 měsíci +2

    Nothing sounds better than a 2 cycle v12 Detroit

    • @markdubois4882
      @markdubois4882 Před 6 měsíci

      Drop a pair of turbos on the 12V71 and hold on tight.
      477 HP @ 2100 rpm, 1251 lb.ft @ 1600 rpm with NO boost.
      14 pounds of boost will get you 931 HP and 2442 lb.ft of torque. Will need bigger injectors as the 65# injectors will be too small.
      For those who do not know, a 12V71 has a displacement of 851.2 CID, which is just short of 14 litres...and it's a v12, 2-stroke beast.

  • @mallry1
    @mallry1 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I dont have a v8 semi at the moment but I have driven a couple of older v8 scanias plus the old cool scania v8 models Are getting old enough to import to north america and in a couple of years canadians can import the 730hp trucks

  • @kevinrice7635
    @kevinrice7635 Před 9 měsíci +1

    430 92 series Detroit turned up will run by anything sure loved mine ❤️.... nothing stay the same.

  • @WilliamKShank
    @WilliamKShank Před 10 měsíci +5

    Safe Journey! CHOLULA!!!

  • @nealhill1534
    @nealhill1534 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The last mob i drove for before where i am now i was driving a 2023 V8 Scania R650.

  • @kevinrice7635
    @kevinrice7635 Před 9 měsíci +1

    In line four next.... Long strokes and stuff....worked great in the model A.......

  • @adamhogeland8033
    @adamhogeland8033 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I like the v12 engine as well as the v8 and 6 inline engine

  • @TobiasRieperGER
    @TobiasRieperGER Před 10 měsíci +4

    Here in Europe we have 2 trucks, that use V8.
    Scania 730 and Mercedes Actros.
    And you can order the Volvo FH with 750 hp.

    • @TruckTropia
      @TruckTropia  Před 10 měsíci +7

      Scania v8 is 770 hp and you cant get a mercedes v8 anymore

    • @donnellykieranj
      @donnellykieranj Před 10 měsíci +1

      You're actually wrong. It's now only Scania. MB discontinued their V8 quite a while ago now. And it's only a matter of time B4 Scania pull the plug on theirs IMO.

    • @TobiasRieperGER
      @TobiasRieperGER Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yes the actual Scania has 770 hp, but that is for the new model. Go back to arround 2012, then it had 730 hp. And at that time you could buy the Mercedes Actros with V8, which driving arround here i guess at least for the next 5-10 years. So we have a lot V8 trucks on the street, if the companies bought them.
      But i have to say, the most V8 trucks are in areas with hills and mountains. For example scandinavia, austria and switzerland. in lower areas the usual trucks are with smaller engines. So they overtake each other all the time and block the Autobahn, where are parts with no speed limit.

    • @johnmoore1949
      @johnmoore1949 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I’m curious. Why do EU trucks have high horsepower? The trucks are small and shouldn’t need much hp for the work load it’s performing.

    • @donnellykieranj
      @donnellykieranj Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@johnmoore1949 are you American by any chance? Our trucks over here may look smaller that's because there is generally an overall length restriction. That being said we are allowed to operate at 44 metric tonnes on 6 axles within that length restriction. Remember 44 T is 97000 lbs which is substantially more than what the states is allowed to operate at. Also a few countries, particularly the Scandinavian ones are allowed to operate outside the normal length restrictions hence the use of double trailers B doubles etc. So don't be fooled. Our trucks are certainly not 'small'.

  • @stephenfisher9505
    @stephenfisher9505 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Only had one V8, 8V92N in my 66 KW it would run with my friends 12V71N . BUT!!! 3.8MPG and flange mounted alternator. I carried a spare alt. had to change my alternator on Snoqualme pass at night once. That 66 K wobbler got lot of "What's under that hood" comments. "JUST AN UNRELIABLE 92 DETRIOT" first and last V8 and first and last Detroit!

  • @dankinusmc1
    @dankinusmc1 Před 10 měsíci +26

    V8 dropped from favor when the US government decided not to go through with the increase in truck weights that was planned, and held our trucks at 80,000 lbs, as the extra power was deemed unnecessary for 90% of trucks in North America. Scania did try to break into the US market directly after, but found that their trucks were to heavy for our ridiculously low weights, and they couldn't get enough dealers to partner with. Volvo and Mercedes had the same issues, so they both bought US brands instead. Comparing the tech in Europe, they are across the board more fuel efficient, with the V8 engines being among the best in the world, as they are the same displacement as our biggest engines, but are moving more weight while burning the same or less fuel. They are also far more reliable than our engines

    • @er.m.s8930
      @er.m.s8930 Před 9 měsíci +6

      V shaped engine consume same or lesser fuel compared to inline engine of same displacement?😂

    • @keithsuggs7935
      @keithsuggs7935 Před 9 měsíci +4

      The government had to restrict weight because the railroads would fold if truck weight was increased.

    • @dankinusmc1
      @dankinusmc1 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@er.m.s8930 , a 16L engine is a 16L engine, doesn't matter if it is an I6, V8, I8, V10, that just means smaller bore diameter. If the engine is producing more power for the same displacement, then it is in fact more fuel efficient.

    • @johncarlson3061
      @johncarlson3061 Před 9 měsíci +5

      As a 30yr veteran heavy truck mechanic, I can attest that 6cyl engine is less maintenance only it aspect of fewer internal parts come overhaul time. However the larger US V8s that were produced were generally more reliable and had longer service intervals due to less stress put on powerplant. Simple as this:(we live in a disposable sciocty and don't want shit to last). Obama killed the manufacturer of vehicles that used to have longevity and were built to last. D.E.F. is a joke & F-ing no one else uses the power robbing shit. Just us stupid Americans who believe that we should give up everything, when all 3rd world countries don't do squat for the environment.

    • @Sam-ob4of
      @Sam-ob4of Před 9 měsíci

      *36,2873896 tons

  • @dadgarage7966
    @dadgarage7966 Před 9 měsíci +2

    A longer crank throw turns into a mechanical disadvantage during the intake, compression and exhaust strokes so no.

  • @jhonsiders6077
    @jhonsiders6077 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I still run some of the older 2 stroke Detroit’s in a few of my trucks up to the 12-92 also have Mack’s with the V8 along with the Cat 3408 in some of the tractors . When It comes to emissions I can care less Humans will wipe our selves out long before the earth will become inhabitable . I do heavy haul the newer engines and few of the tractors can do the job for my fleet plus no electronics and regeneration to give problems my new ones seem to give a lot of trouble in that system plus it’s a rolling bomb to me unsafe you seldom saw a fire in a truck crash now about every one burns !

  • @Seventh7Art
    @Seventh7Art Před 10 měsíci +7

    So, there are 6 American semi-truck manufacturers? Mack, Kenworth, Peterbilt, Freightliner, International and........ ?

  • @michaelempino5363
    @michaelempino5363 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Inline engine easy to repair.. and easy to timing the camshaft..

  • @anvilsvs
    @anvilsvs Před 9 měsíci +1

    Two main factors: inline engine cheaper to build. Larger cylinders are more fuel efficient due to lower heat loss. Thus you always use as few cylinders as possible while keeping vibration and peak impulse torque within usable limits. Which is why cars are now using 3 cylinder engines in small displacements. Cheaper, more fuel efficient. That's it, game over.

  • @bearchow1929
    @bearchow1929 Před 9 měsíci +5

    This could be re done into a really good video with the help of some professional engine experts contributions, serious professional script writers, and an accomplished presenter.

  • @kariylivirta7954
    @kariylivirta7954 Před 9 měsíci

    apart from fuel consumption of straight 6 versus a v8, there is a big difference, the volov750 is at 5 liters + and the scania v8 is at 3.8-4 liters

  • @thisnthat3530
    @thisnthat3530 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I6 has 7 main bearings, V8 has only 5. This improves longevity.

    • @gregmeredith8753
      @gregmeredith8753 Před 9 měsíci +4

      7:02 because you can't have more than 5 mains in a V8 they will run 1,000,000 miles no problem. Have a nice day

  • @jammiedodger7040
    @jammiedodger7040 Před měsícem +1

    V8’s are the best but I6’s are also good.

  • @joelrunyan1608
    @joelrunyan1608 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Its not lbs PER foot. Its pound foot or foot pound. They're multiplied not divided

  • @bobbyheffley4955
    @bobbyheffley4955 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Detroit Diesel also produced V6 and V12 engines.

    • @carwashadamcooper1538
      @carwashadamcooper1538 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Detroit made everything from 1cyl all the way to 24cyl but the most common were the 4-12 cyl models

  • @jamesharrison6201
    @jamesharrison6201 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Yeah but the Cummins 903 was a quiet running unit

  • @tamizharasan1857
    @tamizharasan1857 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Lorry fans from India ♥♥♥

  • @babydriver8134
    @babydriver8134 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The V-8 was popular? Since when?

  • @adiamondforever7890
    @adiamondforever7890 Před 9 měsíci

    My truck is also diesel v8, but Navistar/Powerstroke 6.0, no def, so I keep it. Have fun

  • @paulscott4052
    @paulscott4052 Před 7 měsíci

    I own and operate a v8 scania longline

  • @77.88.
    @77.88. Před 8 měsíci +1

    No company makes the quality of CATERPILLAR or have they changed too?

  • @MiyanoShuumei
    @MiyanoShuumei Před 9 měsíci +3

    **scania quietly chuckles**

  • @joecummings1260
    @joecummings1260 Před 9 měsíci +2

    How the hell do you miss the most common ones 8v71 and 8v92 Detroit diesel? And probably the biggest reason the V configuration was dropped was many of them sucked, they broke alot. 864 Mack put people out of business. %%% cummins was another loser. They got a bad reputation early on

  • @terenceiutzi4003
    @terenceiutzi4003 Před 9 měsíci +1

    High torque low rpm is far more efficient, and we have longer distances

  • @brianb-p6586
    @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The longer-stroke - larger displacement - higher torque argument is nonsense. An engine can be built with any stroke and cylinder displacement with any number of cylinders. The displacement determines the possible torque output.
    For the same total displacement larger cylinders mean fewer cylinders, so the engine is simpler, but larger cylinders also mean lower practical operating speeds and thus lower maximum power (with the same maximum torque).
    For heavy truck applications displacements over 1 litre per cylinder and up to 3 litres per cylinder are practical for a modern turbodiesel. That means that if you need 15 litres, you can use five to 15 cylinders, or in practical terms 6 to 12 cylinders. There's no reason to use more cylinders than you need, so six it is, and 8 is unnecessary.

    • @goforitrazz
      @goforitrazz Před 9 měsíci

      Because of the geometry stroke is limited in a v8 unless it’s made flat ( boxer) ?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      @goforitrazz there's no geometric limit regarding stroke. It is larger bore which causes conflict between the banks in the vee format, forcing the use of a taller deck. A vee engine can get too wide, and large truck V8s can hang over the frame rails on both sides.

  • @larrycannady4601
    @larrycannady4601 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Why do people try and change foot pounds to pounds foot? It doesn't even sound right.

  • @IgrejaBrasilBem-aventurado8193

    BR TRANS-CARGAS💙 💛 🤍 💚

  • @dargonitagamertv
    @dargonitagamertv Před 10 měsíci +3

    Hola yo también juego al eurottuck

  • @yagzthe
    @yagzthe Před 10 měsíci +2

    First Comment

  • @DamianCzech-tp1jz
    @DamianCzech-tp1jz Před 10 měsíci +3

    Why we don't see v6?

    • @ceniciento367jvl7
      @ceniciento367jvl7 Před 10 měsíci

      I m to see a V6 Detroit and Cummins

    • @realtruth172
      @realtruth172 Před 9 měsíci +1

      i will vibrate to much you can't balance a v6 diesel

    • @ontheroadagain4773
      @ontheroadagain4773 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@realtruth172 V6 diesels exist in smaller trucks, SUV's and family cars to save space. So it's not that bad. But an inline 6 is indeed better where space and a little more weight doesn't matter so much.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@realtruth172being a diesel doesn't matter to balance.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci +1

      An inline-6 is better-balanced than a V6, and narrower so it packages better between the frame rails of a truck. It's longer and heavier than a V6 of the same displacement, but those are manageable in a truck.
      There have been heavy truck V6 engines, but they are no longer in production. The Mercedes Actros had one of the most recent.

  • @yourlocalyoutuber1082
    @yourlocalyoutuber1082 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Imagine putting a Cummins X15 in a Ford 350 those tires will be erased in first gear

  • @pdmustgtd1013
    @pdmustgtd1013 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Only part of this video right but why U.S stopped using V8 because of packaging. Here in U.S we use Conv trucks (hoods) and using inline 6 fits better. Europe use cabovers V8 fits better and they do use inline 6 too. We need power too we have factory engines with 600. 605, 625 hp with torq highest torq rating at 2050 ft. Also here in U.S we have long distance with big roads with agv speed of 65 mph. Europe doesn't even have big interstate system like we do here in U.S.too. Europe also don't use long 53 ft trailers either like we do here in U.S. Most roads in Europe are small and cab over work great their. When Paccar bought Europe version of MX13 here for testing it won't pull 80k truck or high speed on OUR interstate. Needed major software change and some hardware changes.

    • @crocket1971
      @crocket1971 Před 9 měsíci

      The size of the US and Europe is no reference , both continents are flat and have mountains. The US biggest engines around the 660 HP(newest Cummins) European factory engines Scania 770 HP torque 3700NM and Volvo 750 HP Even Europe have longtrains and a good interstate as well.

    • @pdmustgtd1013
      @pdmustgtd1013 Před 9 měsíci

      @@crocket1971 There is hugh differance we have bigger roads. and most of Uk, Europe and small tight roads. They don't use 53 ft trailers either like here in U.S. Europe doesn't even come close to interstate system that we have in U.S . I've been there UK, Europe, Germany nothing like we have. Cummins doesn't have 660hp either we are using 605hp. Again its about packaging on why we mostly use inline 6

    • @pdmustgtd1013
      @pdmustgtd1013 Před 9 měsíci

      @@crocket1971 Cummins does have 750 and 1000 hp test engines that meet current emissions right now. But they will never be released they are used for verification of parts

    • @crocket1971
      @crocket1971 Před 9 měsíci

      @@pdmustgtd1013We talk about factory engines! Don't you heard about the Cummins X15D 660 HP (Daf Truck Australia)?

    • @crocket1971
      @crocket1971 Před 9 měsíci

      @@pdmustgtd1013 Europe is not inferior to the US and certainly not in terms of infrastructure

  • @ceniciento367jvl7
    @ceniciento367jvl7 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I prefered a V8 diésel that 6 i li er in semi trucks

  • @jamescaliendo1030
    @jamescaliendo1030 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I wonder how a cummins inline 8 would fare?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      Too long, with a problematic crankshaft due to the length, and an unnecessarily large number of cylinders.

    • @jamescaliendo1030
      @jamescaliendo1030 Před 9 měsíci

      @@brianb-p6586 how do you think a 16 liter Cummins inline 6 would do?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      @@jamescaliendo1030 That's only slightly larger than the current 15-litre Cummins (X15) so... just like the X15, with bout 6% more torque and power, and the same efficiency?

    • @jamescaliendo1030
      @jamescaliendo1030 Před 9 měsíci

      @brianb-p6586 yes but much larger bore. For years we ran 15 liter, and 16 liter Cats here and the difference was night and day. I'd like to see if Cummins would produce a 16 liter inline 6 for trucks

  • @dlovas45
    @dlovas45 Před 10 měsíci +16

    The inline 6 also uses fewer parts - one cylinder head instead of 2. It is a simpler engine design that is cheaper to produce, and cheaper and easier to maintain. As mentioned, it produces high torque at low rpm, which is perfect for heavy truck applications. IMHO, a superior design!

  • @michaelempino5363
    @michaelempino5363 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Gmc 350 v8..

  • @randomvideos466
    @randomvideos466 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I6 has Low cost product and maintenance also low cost fuel.

  • @richardhetrick4770
    @richardhetrick4770 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Why not make a 12 liter four cylinders less parts lighter

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      Engine speed would probably be too limited, and torque delivery from only four cylinders is not smooth enough.

  • @JohannZ100
    @JohannZ100 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Cummins vt 903 Cat 3408 John Deere 15.7 Detroit 8v71 are a few US V8 engines that were used ive heard the vt903 would fall apart and The Deere 15.7 would have internal issues from exesive strain in tractors and heavy equipment and the 3408 ive heard could live way beyond 15000 hours the 8v71s could run forever despite leaking oil everywhere there are some larger medium speed models like a 3508 cat EMD 8-567 to name some us model V8 diesel engines europe has the Deutz V8 air cooled and the DC14 Scania and a ton of others Mercedes Baudoin out of all of them people would prefer the EMD or Scania reading testomonials on scania engines sold in the us their customers say they would not want anything else

  • @user-sg5kp1jb8q
    @user-sg5kp1jb8q Před 10 měsíci +4

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    • @user-jp7rk1uf2n
      @user-jp7rk1uf2n Před 10 měsíci +3

      Plus I love the sound as I idled through the truck stops. People would stop and stare as I ran my 3408 PCTA around 1,100 roms.

    • @ceniciento367jvl7
      @ceniciento367jvl7 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Me gustan los V8

    • @williamharmon3076
      @williamharmon3076 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@user-jp7rk1uf2n love the CAT 3408 DI it was the best engine for for heavy haul, and performance un matched on hills and steep inclines to this day its performance is unmatched by any other engine on the market.

  • @acettovalens6787
    @acettovalens6787 Před 9 měsíci

    Mitsubishi Fuso V8 trucks and isuzu v10

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      Neither Fuso nor Isuzu is a US manufacturer (the subject of the video) and neither of those engines are - or ever have been - available in the US. The Isuzu V10 isn't made any more, is it?

  • @scotthultin7769
    @scotthultin7769 Před 9 měsíci +1

    With all the smart people out there why aren't we making these vehicles run on hydrogen it doesn't need diesel to make power it needs a fuel that's easily burned in hydrogen easily switch it over to a crank trigger and uses spark plugs in fire at off even though it's a two-cycle it doesn't matter because we can feed the fuel in through the intake inlet

    • @four-eight-zero5627
      @four-eight-zero5627 Před 8 měsíci

      Hydrogen will never be used for a low-revving, high-torque producing engine. Slow burn beats a quick pop.
      H2 liquid/gas is not easy to contain.
      Hydrocarbon combustion will be the safest, most reliable, and inexpensive form of automotive mechanical power until we advance past the internal combustion engine.
      Oh.. and by the way..
      Carbon dioxide is less than a fraction of one percent of our atomsphere. "Climate change" is a political agenda to geographically lock people down. Prisoner propaganda.

  • @jonathanrabbitt
    @jonathanrabbitt Před 9 měsíci +1

    "Pounds per foot", FFS.

  • @pi1797
    @pi1797 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Emissions kills diesel engines.

  • @jacquesblaque7728
    @jacquesblaque7728 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Torque is NOT measured in lb/ft, but in lb-ft. If you understood the basic physics, you'd see it's a no-brainer.

  • @edwardbeggs2977
    @edwardbeggs2977 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Yo yo you ALL SHOULD RAise gross wt. & let THEM TRUCKERS HAUL THE WEIGHTS

    • @realtruth172
      @realtruth172 Před 9 měsíci

      no we will make more money hauling smaller loads

  • @mr_nice.
    @mr_nice. Před 9 měsíci +2

    pounds per foot??????

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      That's what happens when you hire someone for voice work who doesn't understand what he is reading, and you don't check his work.

    • @mr_nice.
      @mr_nice. Před 9 měsíci

      @@brianb-p6586 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍

  • @GORT70
    @GORT70 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Easy. It’s called epa.

  • @sugarkillsall7297
    @sugarkillsall7297 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Fake arguments. The Scania are the most powerful trucks and they have V8.

  • @ichvox
    @ichvox Před 8 měsíci +1

    You are wrong. Scania makes V8 and it's most powerful truck in the world 770 hp

    • @TruckTropia
      @TruckTropia  Před 8 měsíci

      No its not A New King Of The Road - The Chinese 800 Hp V8 Shacman
      czcams.com/video/0t-OeadhGYM/video.html

  • @bobbyknight3589
    @bobbyknight3589 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yeah i stick to my bug ass v8 power 🏠🏡 ok 🙄

  • @gerhardlesch3615
    @gerhardlesch3615 Před 9 měsíci +2

    1:40 Pounds per foot?
    Put on your technical cap before speaking such nonsense.

  • @MegaLol2xd
    @MegaLol2xd Před 10 měsíci +6

    why care about this few % of efficiency and maintenance cost reduction, when V8 is just more fun.

    • @TruckTropia
      @TruckTropia  Před 10 měsíci

      💪💪💪

    • @Eric_V410
      @Eric_V410 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Idk about more fun but it just makes the market more interesting to have the choice between many different engine configurations.

    • @mementomori8791
      @mementomori8791 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Well, I guess because trucks are designed for business, not pure leisure.

    • @Eric_V410
      @Eric_V410 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@mementomori8791 Many owner operators would happily buy something other than an i6 but unlike the pickup truck market the semis are almost completely controlled buy fleet buyers

    • @MegaLol2xd
      @MegaLol2xd Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@mementomori8791 why can't have fun at work?

  • @TransAmDrifter
    @TransAmDrifter Před 9 měsíci

    All is about money and stupid regulations (which are also source of money). Look how beatiful and free the world could be if money wouldn't be everyone's god.

  • @four-eight-zero5627
    @four-eight-zero5627 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Longer stroke correlates to quicker piston/bore damage.
    "Pounds per foot" is something completely different from "foot pounds" (the standard SAE unit of measurement for torque).
    This video smacks of the AI-generated garbage that's all over YT right now.
    Susan, her ilk, and the algos are doing their part to make sure we all have brain rot.

  • @mpedward2
    @mpedward2 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Political that’s all it is and always will be.

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Too much wrong here to even begin to list....

  • @GalaxyFur
    @GalaxyFur Před 8 měsíci +1

    All I know is that European trucks are super slow compared to American trucks. In the U.S. trucks always run between 70 and 80Mph. In Europe they are limited to just 55 Mph. And often really slow 35 Mph speeds.
    Trucks in the U.S. generally are pushed much harder having to haul loads at greater speeds and over vast distances bigger than that in the EU. Not to mention trucks in the U.S. have to typically run through larger varieties of climates.
    6cyl engine's also develop torque at lower rpm's compared to V8 diesels typically. So while a V8 diesel can produce more torque in theory, it doesn't develop the torque where it's needed most to get the load going.
    For heavy haul applications the 6 cylinder diesels just proved to be a better design.
    The U.S. also has more strict diesel emission standards in general compared to the EU. Again why Catapiller gave up trying to meet them and why VW had to buy back diesel cars from America's where as those same cars with the same engines were still legal in the EU.

  • @IndigenousAmericanTrucker
    @IndigenousAmericanTrucker Před měsícem

    I wonder if Scania will ever come back to the states again, especially since they now have a conventional truck model? It really sucks that the Europeans are out performing American trucks. We are supposed to be more superior in my opinion! Then out government like to just ruin everything. If CAT was still making highway motors, I'm sure by now we'd have an inline 6 that would eat those Scanias up. Lmao!

  • @Ed-ji1vd
    @Ed-ji1vd Před 9 měsíci

    Cause v-8s don't last as long

  • @Thors.hammer69420
    @Thors.hammer69420 Před 25 dny +1

    Bloody give me an inline 8 then if the inline is so easy.

  • @dutchman2506
    @dutchman2506 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Wrong,Scania still has a V8
    Just saying
    And electric trucks are to heavy no infra structure same as the trucks that run Hydrogen,so for now we are safe and we can run our diesel engines

    • @TruckTropia
      @TruckTropia  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Is scania a US manufacturer .. i dont Think so 😉

    • @dankinusmc1
      @dankinusmc1 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@TruckTropia, technically, yes, they have a small facility assembling engines in Houston, TX area, and are now the owners of International, as well as being the producer of the new International engine.

  • @tonysilliker5977
    @tonysilliker5977 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Reason is most US truck companies are owned by European truck manufacturers .

    • @TruckTropia
      @TruckTropia  Před 9 měsíci

      Europe scania still have v8’s

    • @tonysilliker5977
      @tonysilliker5977 Před 9 měsíci

      @@TruckTropia When did I mention Scania. Unless you want to know they owned by SAAB Aerospace. As SAAB automobile devision is none existence now as the first generation 9/3 and 9/5 were a Subaru Impreza estate shell and the later 9/3 and 9/5 were a Vauxhall Vectra shell plus the 1.9 diesel engine is a Vauxhall engine... The 2.3 petrol is SAAB's own engine and a pig when they go wrong as you can't get any new parts for them.. As they are obsolete...
      Oh I'm more into classic Ford's though 😂😂😂. Anything you want to know about Ford Cortina's they my poison.
      Especially 1.6 and 2.0 Pinto engine's.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@tonysilliker5977 the point was that European ownership is not the reason for ending V8 truck engines, because Scania is European and still has V8 engines.
      International and Scania are both parts of Traton, so International could use Scania's V8 engines if they thought there was a market for them in the USA... yes, V8's for America from Europe.

  • @prowler2358
    @prowler2358 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Biggest cost running a truck is fuel over its lifetime, V8's use more fuel than inline 6's, its that simple