The Most Absurd Ken Downplay You'll Ever Read

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  • čas přidán 16. 11. 2023
  • streamed Oct. 31, 2023
    Ken downplay culture being set back by 20 years. At least we got to demonstrate spacing traps again.
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Komentáře • 536

  • @GreenBro11
    @GreenBro11 Před 7 měsíci +1319

    I disagree with Sajam here. It actually costs at least 60$ to be this wrong about Ken.

    • @jreut09
      @jreut09 Před 7 měsíci +101

      I mean if you haven't played the game it's free

    • @thecountercounter9127
      @thecountercounter9127 Před 7 měsíci +163

      @@jreut09 i dont think you can be THIS UNFATHOMABLY WRONG about a game without playing it. if you were watching youtubers of it, you would be getting a bunch of different takes and a lot of different info, you would be seeing how certain characters snuff others and how to work around certain matchups. the only way you can suck this hard is by playing the game, being bottom of the barrel, and then assuming that youre the best in the world and that your experiences of the game as a ken main are universal across the board regardless of player or character pick
      i DO NOT genuinely think you could be this wrong for free

    • @solarsloan
      @solarsloan Před 7 měsíci +13

      @@thecountercounter9127 This is the most well thought out CZcams reply I’ve ever seen lmao.

    • @nabillun
      @nabillun Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@thecountercounter9127i like the sentiment but sadly think that you might be wrong about how people can get that wrong lol

    • @pyrom3744
      @pyrom3744 Před 7 měsíci

      Lollll

  • @semi__colon
    @semi__colon Před 7 měsíci +881

    ken being divorced CLEARLY puts him in F tier

    • @Smokinbacon
      @Smokinbacon Před 7 měsíci +48

      Only Ken downplay I'm willing to agree with.

    • @candi_appel
      @candi_appel Před 7 měsíci +49

      it actually puts him in D tier. D for Divorced!

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow Před 7 měsíci +2

      D tier for Divorced.

    • @melgibsonero
      @melgibsonero Před 7 měsíci +6

      is he even divorced? He's just hiding. Like 2 blocks down in some construction yard

    • @sibladeko
      @sibladeko Před 7 měsíci +1

      divorced from reality

  • @dumpsta-divrr365
    @dumpsta-divrr365 Před 7 měsíci +175

    "Spends more time typing bullshit about the game than playing the fucking game" has to be one of my least favorite genres of gamer

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci +6

      They’re one of my favorite types of players bc they keep my content creators posting

  • @memekingk373
    @memekingk373 Před 7 měsíci +752

    My favorite type of downplay is listing things that you can do to counter the strong tool while not acknowledging the context of why it is strong

    • @Gamma0_0
      @Gamma0_0 Před 7 měsíci +80

      The Ken downplayer: "Dragon lash kick is so negative on block lol"
      * is actually plus *
      The same Ken downplayer, probably: "Just press buttons faster and it changes the data of the game in realtime to disadvantage me, idiot lol"

    • @jy61
      @jy61 Před 7 měsíci +37

      @@Gamma0_0 Non-heavy dragonlash being minus is one of the few things correct about that comment though...

    • @sleepyzeph
      @sleepyzeph Před 7 měsíci +6

      bloodrage though???

    • @runnergunner42
      @runnergunner42 Před 7 měsíci +21

      Right? 'Amnesia isn't good, just bait it and punish'

    • @user-bv3ok2re3s
      @user-bv3ok2re3s Před 7 měsíci +8

      Nemo in a nutshell, and the same reason why majority of audience prefer to see Nemo lose

  • @JohnGuiltyGear
    @JohnGuiltyGear Před 7 měsíci +509

    It's not every day we get an impressively wrong youtube comment. Wrong enough for sajam to read on stream, dissect, and then post to youtube as well. What a heater.

    • @superbro6413
      @superbro6413 Před 7 měsíci +13

      What drinking the downplay ken juice does to a mf

    • @Mr.Faust3
      @Mr.Faust3 Před 7 měsíci

      It’s why we watch Sajam

    • @timelost9705
      @timelost9705 Před 7 měsíci +11

      No, actually this basically happens every day

    • @Drtrmptman
      @Drtrmptman Před 7 měsíci +6

      I see a crazy wrong CZcams comment literally every day, tf are you taking about?

    • @championredd
      @championredd Před 7 měsíci

      It is every day u get a wrong yt comment 💀

  • @xeterh
    @xeterh Před 7 měsíci +829

    Kens a pretty good character in my opinion. But he needs a couple of buffs to his jab, crouching mk, crouching mp, crouching hp, standing hp, standing hk, his fireball, his dp, his supers, damage needs to be buffed, I think Ken should have the medal system instead along with Jamies drinks, and they should give him blanka chan.

    • @P0rk_Sinigang
      @P0rk_Sinigang Před 7 měsíci +79

      Sounds reasonable to me.

    • @ShinAkuma
      @ShinAkuma Před 7 měsíci +94

      He needs it.

    • @Nykryian
      @Nykryian Před 7 měsíci +76

      He has to keep drinks between rounds, because he obviously needs them

    • @notcreativeatall8157
      @notcreativeatall8157 Před 7 měsíci +56

      @@Nykryian He needs to start with full medals and full drinks, loses one when he taunts (so you get HEAVILY punished if you ever get cocky)

    • @ShinAkuma
      @ShinAkuma Před 7 měsíci +11

      He needs his DP to be invincible on startup like SF4. Can't believe they nerfed him so bad, can't even let the man keep a proper Shoryuken.

  • @benmcgiggles7655
    @benmcgiggles7655 Před 7 měsíci +114

    "His tatsu has good corner carry" is the understatement of the fucking century

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns Před 6 měsíci +5

      He downplayed Ken accidentally while showing why he's better lol. Tatsu is insane

  • @Rusty_Fruit
    @Rusty_Fruit Před 7 měsíci +47

    This kind of unhinged rambling is how "Grounded Footsies Guilty Gear" became a meme

  • @andersonneil2293
    @andersonneil2293 Před 7 měsíci +132

    When the content creator doesn't make a guide for your character yet so you make a set of comments so bad he responds with a character guide

  • @gengarisnotinsmash...
    @gengarisnotinsmash... Před 7 měsíci +187

    Patiently waiting for this guy to get mad about being called out, write an angry response, and get a pin of shame.

    • @Smileface2144
      @Smileface2144 Před 7 měsíci +1

      he's probably writing his comment as we speak

    • @timthaman5778
      @timthaman5778 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Given his last comment… it will likely take him a year to write his newest book! LOL

    • @ImAviex
      @ImAviex Před 7 měsíci

      @@Smileface2144 Legends say he is still writing it to this day

  • @nickfrigillana2645
    @nickfrigillana2645 Před 7 měsíci +46

    Someone just heard the term negative frames for the first time and immediately assumed they knew everything about pressure and frame data

  • @ShinSHOGO
    @ShinSHOGO Před 7 měsíci +107

    This guy is from the future.
    He’s on Season 3, when Ken finally gets gutted with nerfs. 🤣🙏

    • @johngleeman8347
      @johngleeman8347 Před 7 měsíci

      I think you cracked the code Friend! XD

    • @Loadernator123
      @Loadernator123 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I hope he doesn't become dog tier though, I really love his gameplay from an idea stand point.

  • @mitchp2404
    @mitchp2404 Před 7 měsíci +112

    "I'm a silver 2, let me tell you about how the game works"

  • @shinluis
    @shinluis Před 7 měsíci +67

    I don't know what's funnier, the dude who wrote the comment tripping hard balls on Ken or the Bloodborneesque Frenzy status ailment Sajam got by reading it

    • @gengarisnotinsmash...
      @gengarisnotinsmash... Před 7 měsíci +19

      This guy's got ZERO insight.

    • @JoeyCentral
      @JoeyCentral Před 7 měsíci

      Bloodborne is overrated. Lies of P is better

    • @KenjiAsakura09
      @KenjiAsakura09 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@JoeyCentraland without Bloodborne, Lies of P would have never existed

  • @NeroGrimmlock
    @NeroGrimmlock Před 7 měsíci +14

    "Ken's pokes are bad and can't be special canceled"
    My man can't even down-forward fireball.

  • @andante5571
    @andante5571 Před 7 měsíci +166

    What makes dragonlash strong is not the actual properties of the move. You can easily punish it on reaction if you are looking for it. It's strong because it adds to mental stack. Because you have to dedicate some mental space to watch for dragonlash, you may not be able to react to the other strong options available to ken and vice versa. This is the same with most strong moves in sf6. Almost everything in the game has counterplay, but the more strong tools a character has, the more the opponent has to watch out for. TLDR Moves are strong not because of their properties, but because they add to mental stack.

    • @djhero0071
      @djhero0071 Před 7 měsíci +22

      That's pretty much why so many pro players said SFVI is too hard, ain't it?

    • @laku-tikku554
      @laku-tikku554 Před 7 měsíci +23

      Why zangief is a lot more weaker than other characters is due to his multiple options usually being able to be countered the same way

    • @atari_hmb
      @atari_hmb Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah he can Run over-head or DR grab, DR Fire Ball to standing heavy punch to Crouching medium to heavy tatsu- easy corner carry from mid screen I see Angrybird do this a lot.
      And the thing is he has Jinrai mix ups- can bait you to look for dragon lash and just crouching medium into DR combos- its crazy how much Ken can do off one hit

    • @vasilykiselev6285
      @vasilykiselev6285 Před 6 měsíci

      This game is about getting plus frames out of thin air and getting your opponent to the corner with one combo where he just dies from endless throw loops, that is about almost every top tier character gameplay this season

  • @lilacbookshelf1909
    @lilacbookshelf1909 Před 7 měsíci +82

    “Zangief is top ten because Snake Eyez is good.” As a gief main that blows my mind. Snake Eyez has been playing that character in various games for nearly a decade. It’s unreasonable for most players to reach where he is. Ken is really good in this game, but that doesn’t mean that Ken mains aren’t skillful.

    • @AllFlashNoDash
      @AllFlashNoDash Před 7 měsíci +16

      Snake has been playing Gief for longer than that! Since the SFIV days.

    • @TheBriguy1998
      @TheBriguy1998 Před 7 měsíci +22

      In addition to playing Gief since forever, Snake Eyez is only so successful with Gief because he's practically the only pro who plays the character, so nobody has the machup experience to fully take advantage of Giefs weaknesses or deal with the few strong tools that he actually has.

    • @warpticon
      @warpticon Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@AllFlashNoDashsince the HDR days.

    • @han3wmanwukong125
      @han3wmanwukong125 Před 7 měsíci +3

      He started playing SF4 which is a 200x's game. At this point it's been nearly 2 decades and it's clear the man is a true believer. The fact that anyone can ever say that Gief is good just because one man has committed fully to mastering him boggles the mind.

    • @SonicMegaKing
      @SonicMegaKing Před 7 měsíci

      It does mean that Ken mains are less skillful, though. Because you don't have to develop your skills when the character you play just rewards most of what you do with him.

  • @ZamirStills
    @ZamirStills Před 7 měsíci +111

    You know there are a lot of days where I feel like I don’t know enough about fighting games…then I see there are people like this who are confidently wrong to an almost impressive degree.

    • @tianqi5008
      @tianqi5008 Před 7 měsíci +13

      I find the people who know the least are the ones that say the most.

  • @lot8113
    @lot8113 Před 7 měsíci +296

    This guy is tripping but man, most of us Ken mains recognise how strong the character is. This is no average Ken man, it's a deluded and misinformed person with way too much confidence.

    • @yamagvchi
      @yamagvchi Před 7 měsíci +5

      yup. I suck at fighting games and I know I only reached Master because I Ken'd it through

    • @lot8113
      @lot8113 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@yamagvchi damn I'm maining Ken and still at dia 2. Guess I'm extra bad huh.

    • @yamagvchi
      @yamagvchi Před 7 měsíci

      it could be that you don't have nearly the amount of matches I do, trust me@@lot8113

    • @algumnomeaihehe
      @algumnomeaihehe Před 7 měsíci +9

      how would you know what the majority of ken players think, as opposed to the kens invested enough in the game to post in social media about vidya?
      EDIT: don't meant to sound disrespectful or snarky either, just questioning the methodology of posts like these in general

    • @onkarlally
      @onkarlally Před 7 měsíci +7

      Dunning Kruger strikes again lmao. If you don’t know what you don’t know you assume you know everything.

  • @aledantih6524
    @aledantih6524 Před 7 měsíci +141

    "your character is OP"
    Ken Players: "Nooo you just don't understand the game!!"
    JP Players: "Yes"

    • @Akodakun
      @Akodakun Před 7 měsíci +11

      JP is cracked but i cant help but be impressed with some of his combos/mixups

    • @SwapGoTron
      @SwapGoTron Před 7 měsíci +15

      ​@@AkodakunI started the game playing JP. He manages to be simultaneously cringe and based. You can get pretty far by just good space control and knowing how to spike/ghost pressure but when JP cooks it looks so sick.

    • @aledantih6524
      @aledantih6524 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@Akodakun he's got sause for sure

    • @thepeasant269
      @thepeasant269 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​​@@AkodakunThe setup for instant overhead in the corner is saucy af. Makes Master players lose their marbles.

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 Před 7 měsíci +21

      JP Players don't really care about wether you don't like them, and that's really funny.

  • @Raxyz_0
    @Raxyz_0 Před 7 měsíci +24

    The thing that tilts me the most has to be "his normals are below average". The motherfucker literally doesn't have a SINGLE bad button. stHP is a downright war crime. How someone can confidently type that is anyone's guess. I'm betting that it's intentionally a bait.

    • @rarecrom
      @rarecrom Před 7 měsíci +7

      nah average players just type random shit after they find out what frame data is, I was there at one point when I played other fighting games

  • @TheZak6969
    @TheZak6969 Před 7 měsíci +89

    This has to be a troll lol. This is like getting every question wrong on the SATs. What are the odds of all his points being so perfectly terrible?

    • @scozzbaggs9224
      @scozzbaggs9224 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Can't be real

    • @KusanagiMotoko100
      @KusanagiMotoko100 Před 7 měsíci +29

      No, I think it's real, intermediate players usually are into some massive Dunning-Kruger effect cause they start to dominate the mechanics of the game and read a lot about frame data so they think they're better at understanding the game than they really are, they lack a lot of experience.

    • @massterwushu9699
      @massterwushu9699 Před 7 měsíci

      @@KusanagiMotoko100yeah they’re probably a Platinum/Diamond player.

    • @vasilykiselev6285
      @vasilykiselev6285 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@massterwushu9699everything up to master is just drive rush fighter 6 with some "im gonna whiff a heavy button and use DI" flavour

  • @pendent23
    @pendent23 Před 7 měsíci +31

    Ken is a crypto guy. There’s nothing that could possibly be more damning about him

    • @dumpsta-divrr365
      @dumpsta-divrr365 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Ken on the run in this game after the NFT incident

  • @LyndonBarry93
    @LyndonBarry93 Před 7 měsíci +49

    My brain is still stuck on “Manon is Top 10”, and I main this lady 😂

    • @Hawko1313
      @Hawko1313 Před 7 měsíci +16

      Remember week one and the internet thinking Manon was good. Then we learned about drive reversal and how to uppercut drive rush cancels

    • @ADreamingTraveler
      @ADreamingTraveler Před 7 měsíci +14

      I still remember when everyone thought Manon was one of the most powerful characters in the game those first few weeks. It's funny how things change. If the devs had listened to the community she would have been nerfed and even weaker than she currently is. That's why I'm glad they're giving us a year before nerfing or buffing anyone

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci +2

      Nah man, a year is still too long. 6 months imo is the sweet spot

    • @JoeyCentral
      @JoeyCentral Před 7 měsíci

      Idk man good Manon players can really mess you up.

    • @vasilykiselev6285
      @vasilykiselev6285 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@ADreamingTraveleri have the game for a little more then a month but i dont get how can manon be that bad with these kind of buttons

  • @count_rizzula
    @count_rizzula Před 7 měsíci +31

    We are seeing the myth of Sisyphus play out in Sajam's comment section now. Ken is the boulder, Ken mains are Sisyphus, and Sajam is Hades.

    • @OberynTheRedViper
      @OberynTheRedViper Před 7 měsíci +9

      One must imagine Ken mains happy

    • @axis8396
      @axis8396 Před 7 měsíci +3

      A lot of the time I think what happens is people equate "character strength" with "how easy is it to win" so they pick up a character like Ken, spam Dragonlash and get DI'd 98% of the time and explode and then say "this character literally doesn't function". I wouldn't say it's because they're specifically inexperienced with this game but actually that they're inexperienced with fighting games in general so they don't understand what they're doing let alone what the opponent is doing

    • @Blargel
      @Blargel Před 7 měsíci

      Are you sure it isn't the other way around? It feels like Sajam is Sisyphus and trying to educate the scrubs is pushing the boulder. Then the scrubs refuse to learn or new scrubs appear and the boulder rolls back down.

  • @anjisonlyfans6578
    @anjisonlyfans6578 Před 7 měsíci +30

    You know they lied about playing manon because there's no chance you type something like that up if you've experienced the difference in power between her and Ken

    • @Uooooooooooooh
      @Uooooooooooooh Před 7 měsíci +5

      If he's playing on a really low level the difference doesn't really matter

    • @TheHankScorpio
      @TheHankScorpio Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Uooooooooooooh but then even Ken at those levels spamming stuff is still a good character, all the way from bronze to diamond i've seen Ken's just trying stuff with no real intent, no combos or setups, and never change playstyle if you start to wait-and-punish their randomness.

    • @newwick
      @newwick Před 7 měsíci +5

      Only explanation I can think off is that he played manon only in gold and below where no one knows how to properly deal with command grabs and her overhead special

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci +2

      Ken mains are 100% random up until diamond, where the probability drops to 50%. It then tapers off logarithmically alongside MR in masters but never reaches 0.
      Kim mains also follow this model

  • @neatobandito1748
    @neatobandito1748 Před 7 měsíci +48

    This is why I respect JP players more than Ken players. JP players will either say "yeah he's broken lol" or give you actual matchup advice. Ken mains will look you dead in the eyes and tell you "yeah ken is balanced you just need to perfect parry everything, then perfectly read the drive impactable moves and it's the easiest matchup in the world, JP is the real problem, JP is literally a boss character, he's slightly unorthodox and therefore doesn't belong in streetfighter literally a guilty gear +r battle for the grid character smh hotfix nerf JP"

    • @doctordice2doctordice210
      @doctordice2doctordice210 Před 7 měsíci +9

      What I love about the "(insert character here) doesn't play street fighter" point is basically a thinly disguised "this character isn't a shoto" seeth
      As if street fighter 6 (as of now) needs an EVEN blander and more homogenize roster lmao

    • @ShoTheEmcee
      @ShoTheEmcee Před 7 měsíci +13

      Oh 100%. As a JP player, my road to Master was full of apologizing to the screen. When I get opponent in the full screen blender of spikes, portals and ghosts I'm just like, welp I'm sorry it has to be this way. I wouldn't dare downplay how nonsensical it is that he has the best standing HP, the best AA normal, one of the best jump ins, for some reason they gave him an air throw.
      But Ken players really out here claiming poverty. They have no shame.

    • @newwick
      @newwick Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@ShoTheEmceeI always get caught off guard by JPs and Guiles air grabs😂

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci

      I think I’ve seen JP air throw someone like twice since the game came out

    • @absoul112
      @absoul112 Před 7 měsíci

      @@doctordice2doctordice210 I'll never fully understand how a character playing the game differently is a bad thing.

  • @scottthescattergun3935
    @scottthescattergun3935 Před 7 měsíci +30

    9:58 "Hit me with a Guile option"
    "No. You go into training mode and find one." Holy shit, Sajam.

    • @Emiridian
      @Emiridian Před 7 měsíci +1

      Then in true Sajam fashion, he explains one and then demonstrates it

  • @quicksword75
    @quicksword75 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Ken mains are sensing the nerfs and are downplaying to try and stop it. I had a chuckle at AngryBird's recent 25min video downplaying Ken

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci +2

      There’s no point to it anyway. All the Ken mains will jump to Akuma once Ken is nerfed anyway

  • @ryanrcosta
    @ryanrcosta Před 7 měsíci +37

    i love people trying to downplay their own character, because god forbid if someone catches you playing a widely considered good character.
    the bottom tier OS is not that important guys

    • @Zoth87
      @Zoth87 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I got to the same rank before plateauing in mid Plat with both a high tier (Luke) and a low tier (Lily). It really is about the player and not the character. At the very least in this game, the universal mechanics are so much more important.

    • @starkflame86
      @starkflame86 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I swear, "Bottom Tier OS" HAS to be my favorite term.

    • @vasilykiselev6285
      @vasilykiselev6285 Před 6 měsíci

      ​Tiers dont matter on platinum

  • @misterkeebler
    @misterkeebler Před 7 měsíci +11

    That person is a great example of someone that learns some frame data and starts making wild statements based on how something looks on paper and not in the context of all options during a match. Same type of person that complained about G having a "useless" 12 frame command grab in sf5 thinking you can always jab in time...only to watch Smug walk up to their face and scoop them while they are frozen like a deer in the headlights. It can be funny to watch them ramble nonsense though.

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian Před 7 měsíci

      Every single person who has ever heard "Grabs lose to strikes" and starts going "how the hell do people get grabbed" seems to not understand that the simple rock paper scissors doesn't translate to juggling the whole game, sometimes you're stuck watching the entire rest of the screen waiting for The Bullshit to start, and then you're on the floor getting grab looped because you refuse to tech cause you keep expecting a tech-bait, and got caught by the first one

  • @AspynDotZip
    @AspynDotZip Před 7 měsíci +5

    9:57 i love that sajam gives the invitation for people to actually think for themselves. Of course teaching other people tech is beneficial for the game, but if all you do is watch other people learn things for you it's hard to internalize the concepts behind the tech. Like I've definitely spammed and did a spacing trap on accident in sfv, but it didnt internalize the idea of using your moves at the end of your range until way later cause i never put myself in a position to figure it out on my own

  • @Calhasnopals
    @Calhasnopals Před 7 měsíci +70

    I got no stake in the Ken game, but it is my duty as a Manon/Aki player to proclaim my pain any chance I get

    • @jahimalnar7978
      @jahimalnar7978 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Please for the love of God Capcom, a DR thats at least a little bit better please. And fix that damn spin!
      - Manon main

    • @thehobojarpen
      @thehobojarpen Před 7 měsíci +1

      I second your sentiments as a fellow Manon/AKI main

    • @bqing87
      @bqing87 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@jahimalnar7978bruh I’ll take a spin that will actually go through fireballs properly even over DR sadly and fixing some other QoL stuff with her. Like, I’m so on point with them that I can spin on reaction to shotos but since slow fireball stuffs you it’s nearly pointless.
      I’m now at the point where I’m just posting and tagging capcom to just fix ish that’s been recorded in match. Legit last time I played non-ex Honda headbutt beat my EX-Spin…

    • @Calhasnopals
      @Calhasnopals Před 7 měsíci

      We’re gonna make it through to next patch, brothers. Stand strong

    • @ilazki_
      @ilazki_ Před 7 měsíci

      @@Calhasnopals I'm an Aki main with some side Manon and Chun play and the wait for that patch is rough. I also played season 1 Jack-O in Strive when she felt like half a character, so I just have the best luck in choosing mains.

  • @patrioticshitstain
    @patrioticshitstain Před 7 měsíci +7

    I love this type of person, because they just go "Why don't the best players in the world simply do the stuff I lose to? It couldn't possibly be that I am not aware of how the game works and not using the character to its full potential, they simply must not have spent the five seconds in training mode I have to see this button is minus, without exploring any further than that!"

  • @KristophAlderich
    @KristophAlderich Před 7 měsíci +75

    As a Ken Main, I will never downplay what he's got. What I will say is that what matters is the person controlling Ken and if they know how to play Ken. That's it.
    Guy has a level of dillusion I've never seen lol.

    • @InputOne
      @InputOne Před 7 měsíci +6

      I main Ken as well and it's like, yeah man. He's amazing. And I love playing as him. But let's not act like he's not Top 3 at minimum

  • @TeamkillTom
    @TeamkillTom Před 7 měsíci +8

    I like how half of the ken downplay is just "This guy should play ryu then"

  • @partifire
    @partifire Před 7 měsíci +8

    You know from how hard the downplay was that he mained ky in ggst

  • @regalx1
    @regalx1 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I think the player is legitimately gas lighting, and there's a way to tell because a person who gas lights will know that's true but specifically say instead that the opposite is true.
    For example he literally said that Ken has the worse fireball game and anti-airs in the game.
    Anybody that takes this statement seriously will end up so confused that they'll have to seriously consider if the NASA actually did fake the moon landing or not.

  • @GS_CCC
    @GS_CCC Před 7 měsíci +16

    Its simple, If I'm playing Ken he sucks, if I'm against ken he is OP.

  • @TheHankScorpio
    @TheHankScorpio Před 7 měsíci +6

    The commentors opinion feels like an on-paper analysis of Ken with a frame data tool up, not one with real labbing and sensible match playtime.
    "All his buttons are minus therefore he has bad pressure" [ignores spacing and general traps],
    "Jinrai is countered by doing this" [assuming they never do anything but the first frame version of everything],
    "Dragonlash is bad because all are punished except Heavy, which is interruptable" [vs a robot yeah, but not a human with a mental stack going on in real time],
    and so many more...

  • @JoeyFettucini
    @JoeyFettucini Před 7 měsíci +19

    You're a nice guy not making his name public. But the rest of us in the dark ages demand blood. SHAME!SHAME!SHAME!

  • @KidNovaDaHitMaker
    @KidNovaDaHitMaker Před 7 měsíci +6

    The "How to stay in bronze with Ken" guide in SF6...LMAO

  • @Vsolid
    @Vsolid Před 7 měsíci +16

    Damn I need ppl to downplay my characters like this

  • @thomascooke8605
    @thomascooke8605 Před 7 měsíci +7

    As a ken main, i can def say there have been at least a round or two where i didn’t land a combo, but killed the opponent anyway just because of landing some good spacing traps and rotating my options well on oki. A lot of ken’s tools aren’t unbeatable, but there’s just too many tools to keep in your head. Jinrai as well can just like do a ton of damage, auto spacing trap your opponent, and convert into supers and stuff. It’s basically just a super low risk rekka that can constantly stack damage.

  • @AkiratheWhite
    @AkiratheWhite Před 7 měsíci +8

    ...But let's think about that, Ken has:
    - Meterless side swap
    - Meterless corner carry
    - Meterless dash forward via Run + Emergency Stop
    - Throw loop in corner and Throw loop via Drive Rush
    - OD DP Reversal
    - Safe jump (two that I know of)
    - Drive Rush HP Frame Trap and Medium Jinrai Frame Trap
    - TWO super cancellable overhead attacks
    - OD Tatsu in the air (corner escape)
    - Heavy Dragonlash into jab link or throw
    - Many corner mix-ups that I won't even bother to list
    What he doesn't have:
    - Easy way to open up opponent
    - Projectile invincible Tatsu
    - Normal button overhead attack
    I'm looking at a character who seems pretty over-tuned, especially next to Luke and Ryu. 🤷 I don't hate people who play Ken, JP, Blanka, Cammy, etc, but don't insult other people's intelligence and pretend like your character doesn't have some bullshit built in. Every character has some bullshit built into them that's not fun to play against.

    • @somerand3711
      @somerand3711 Před 7 měsíci

      I disagree on the point where you said it hard to open people up with ken. I play cammy because she is the easiest and add to that a win with her feel a bit deserved because of her damage. I feel that ken is easier to use to open people up compared to cammy.
      Ken doesnt need to open people up he just burned you out and kill you in the corner.
      This can be considered a down play but theres no way cammy is better or on the same tier as ken.

    • @TheHankScorpio
      @TheHankScorpio Před 7 měsíci

      I would say that you forgot a non-counter/punish jab to mediums link (crLP, stMP) that few have, but everyone has a meterless dash forward in, you know, forward dash. Where run~[choice] shines is in the options it gives that opens up new; pressure, oki, combos, damage, positioning... it even replaces his projectile ivinc-less Tatsu with a projectile invinc DP (not as useful but still there as an option)

    • @AkiratheWhite
      @AkiratheWhite Před 7 měsíci +2

      @somerand3711 I mostly meant from neutral. If Ken has you burned out, waking up from a knockdown, or in a corner, consider your existence miserable 😂

    • @Milangalpan
      @Milangalpan Před 7 měsíci

      Ken's tatsu may not dodge projectiles, but he still can go through them if he does the running DP at the right time and he can even punish the opponent with it for good damage if he's close.

  • @Adderflail
    @Adderflail Před 7 měsíci +4

    From the same banger comment section that gave you "JP's ex counter loses to command grabs":

  • @Chaoskae
    @Chaoskae Před 7 měsíci +10

    Y’all Ken Mains better gatekeep that man 😂😂😂. Ban him from talking until he can prove all that he’s saying

  • @drillsmash3407
    @drillsmash3407 Před 7 měsíci +17

    I always wonder what goes through someone's mind when they find out they were completely wrong about something that they said with absolute confidence. Is there any small fraction of self-reflection, or do they just continue to be that person?

    • @axis8396
      @axis8396 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Depends on the person, some have their worldview crumble around them and eventually reflect on it and others get defensive, say "fuck you" and get stuck in your ways. For the latter you can't help them, they have to realize on their own terms which may not ever actually happen but that's just how it goes

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci +2

      I like the people who double down, they’re funnier

  • @Weebfox
    @Weebfox Před 7 měsíci +5

    "it doesnt cost this person any money to type these things"
    Yeah maybe in some cases it should 😂

  • @Theguy-py4oi
    @Theguy-py4oi Před 7 měsíci +8

    Thanks I hate that I had to hear this. Us ken players are never going to beat the allegations are we.

  • @MG_Gambino
    @MG_Gambino Před 7 měsíci +2

    You're a good one, sajam. I dont know how you put up with it.
    And then seeing you lab and telling someone to figure it out, "chefs kiss". The amount of people I see that don't want to do is is crazy to me.
    Keep doing you, king.

  • @idontno6d105
    @idontno6d105 Před 7 měsíci +5

    didn't actually know how to do spacing traps or keep up pressure before this because a lot of my matches were spent in the corner or in neutral. I guess I know now.

  • @jpVari
    @jpVari Před 7 měsíci +1

    Got a new job and have been out of the loop and not playing for a couple of months.
    So glad I watched this. Laughed, learned, loved. Was inspired to play by the closing insult towards your chatter. So much fun.
    Who would have thought a job at a dispensary would led to so much of my work coming home with me

  • @webweaver13s
    @webweaver13s Před 7 měsíci +1

    Its always interesting to me when Sajam makes a video and mentions comments directly. Mostly because what are the things that set him off enough to mention.

  • @StruffyTheClown
    @StruffyTheClown Před 7 měsíci +5

    We all get tilted sometimes and make up dumb shit as to why it wasnt our fault and instead push the blame on the character *somehow* ... But this is advanced delusion.

  • @Suspinded
    @Suspinded Před 7 měsíci +13

    Need to scrub this guys replays vs Ken. He's got all this locked so far down that he should be 100% vs ken, right?

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I summon that one Millia player that is in every comment section ever talking how terrible Millia is. Or that one Ky player that does the same thing

  • @rlskymind
    @rlskymind Před 7 měsíci +7

    Ken's so bad he won EVO. 😔

  • @Mistouze
    @Mistouze Před 7 měsíci +2

    Vid got me thinking again about spacing traps in Strive and I think my corner pressure with Sol is getting nastier. Once again, thank you for your service.

  • @thegabaghoul93
    @thegabaghoul93 Před 7 měsíci +7

    When you think about it Giefs level 2 is a terrible anit air but other than that he's OP

  • @LordHeishin
    @LordHeishin Před 7 měsíci +14

    I remember reading this lmao. How out of pocket do you have to be to have the content creator make a completely separate video just for everyone to roast you

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Před 7 měsíci +2

      It’s a level of dedication to being wrong that one has to eventually respect.

    • @F1ng0riginal
      @F1ng0riginal Před 7 měsíci

      What video was this on?

  • @TheDGDeagles
    @TheDGDeagles Před 7 měsíci +3

    "As a content creator you love comments like this. You know why?"
    Because its free content. Infinite content glitch.

  • @Cadllmn123
    @Cadllmn123 Před 7 měsíci +3

    2 other Ken players*
    Ken Player Alpha likes their own post due to how to right they are.
    I'd love to see this person's tier list.

  • @AlluMan96
    @AlluMan96 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's shit like this why I try to spend as much time as I can playing as much of the cast as possible in a game. It's easy to get blinkered about your character and feel like everyone else just has it better when your only frame of reference comes exclusively from playing him and struggling. If you think everyone else's stuff is really good, it's better to actually just go try them out yourself. Most of the time, you'll start to realise the shortcomings of them pretty fast and learning how to more properly apply them gives you a better idea of the kinds of situations that character is looking for to create uneven odds. If you look for it or with some luck, playing against your usual main as well is doubling useful, because seeing the matchup from the other side shows you how a strong option impacts their play and what moves they use to beat your options. Sometimes it's better to just watch someone else figure the problem out for you.

  • @justdointhisforthegames
    @justdointhisforthegames Před 7 měsíci

    sajam thumbnail excellence as always

  • @DrCZDeath
    @DrCZDeath Před 7 měsíci +6

    The kinda person who hopes Capcom reads their words so Ken gets a buff instead of a nerf.

  • @ramses1134
    @ramses1134 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bro wrote a 9 page dissertation and was unhinged on the 2nd sentence

  • @LettuceGod1
    @LettuceGod1 Před 7 měsíci

    Once again brothers, we join in a viewing of Sajam explaining wish punishing and spacing traps

  • @jeako777
    @jeako777 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I've never seen someone be wrong THIS confidently. Bro has spent 5 mins in training mode and thinks he's a lab monster.

  • @swagtasticpanda
    @swagtasticpanda Před 7 měsíci +2

    I want you to post more bits like this if you run into Jiyuna this shit is hilarious.

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Part of me wants to play Ken now just to feel how wrong this guy is. Sure I've played against Ken enough to know, but I want to feel the power.

  • @CrimsonRedHeat9
    @CrimsonRedHeat9 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This all reads as; "Doing special moves is hard and using drive gauge is harder." Just today I was playign a Ken who was doing great keep away fire ball into his Jinrai stuff when I got too close. (I play Marisa btw)

  • @Nerevaar
    @Nerevaar Před 7 měsíci +3

    Next time I'm getting hit by s.hp half screen away I just need to remember how trash Kens normals are

  • @Mario_bland
    @Mario_bland Před 7 měsíci +1

    I want this to be some sort of act so this guy could get a full video made of him.

  • @lolrw8
    @lolrw8 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thanks sajam now I don’t even need to play a ken player to be angry

  • @roadhoundd.
    @roadhoundd. Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wake up DP needs full invul and 3 seconds of super armor after landing.

  • @Coldsheep_
    @Coldsheep_ Před 7 měsíci +3

    How lost in the proverbial sauce do you have to be to get to this point this is craaaazy

  • @cylondorado4582
    @cylondorado4582 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It’s secretly AngryBird, he thought he could fool us.

  • @booleann___
    @booleann___ Před 7 měsíci

    Yo @sajam what controller are you using? The button presses sound soooooooooooo nice.

  • @lukelmaooooo
    @lukelmaooooo Před 7 měsíci

    R.I.P. Ray Liotta, known for his roles in Cocaine Bear, Chantix ad, and Sajam thumbnail. he will be sorely missed😢

  • @bboydojo
    @bboydojo Před 7 měsíci +1

    This isn't your average everyday Ken main. This is... ADVANCED KEN MAIN

  • @Kazuhira64
    @Kazuhira64 Před 2 měsíci +1

    As a ken main i can confirm that we all share the same 3 braincells

  • @Hinoga
    @Hinoga Před 7 měsíci +1

    This comment it's like the same level of absurdity of that "ground based footsies guilty gear is known for"

  • @TheWaInut
    @TheWaInut Před 7 měsíci +1

    Even if this is bait it's still just as bad someone would type this much out as "bait"

  • @pyrom3744
    @pyrom3744 Před 7 měsíci

    That whole whole thread reeks of damp basement and hot pockets.

  • @MusicoftheDamned
    @MusicoftheDamned Před 7 měsíci +2

    05:10 That this post has any likes, much less 3, makes it borderline Chapter Black material for anyone foolish enough to still have faith in humanity.

  • @Aeirion
    @Aeirion Před 7 měsíci +3

    I just want to play against him. I wanna play against him and just see what he does. I'm not even that great, I'm just a plat Lily player. I just want to see.

  • @ThirdXavier
    @ThirdXavier Před 7 měsíci

    Love how fed up Sajam sounds lmfao

  • @YukonJon
    @YukonJon Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is the type of shit I tell myself to feel better about spamming Jinrai and Dragonlash

  • @PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED
    @PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED Před 7 měsíci

    History repeats once more

  • @midgetmasher166
    @midgetmasher166 Před 7 měsíci +3

    kybros... are we kenbros?

    • @pairofrooks
      @pairofrooks Před 7 měsíci +1

      We are, but make no mistake: Ken's good. S1 Ky not so much.

    • @midgetmasher166
      @midgetmasher166 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ar
      a
      are you upplaying????????????
      i'm gonna be sick what is WRONG with you

  • @imotje
    @imotje Před 7 měsíci

    3 other kens saw thing cracked me up 😂

  • @massivebees
    @massivebees Před 7 měsíci +4

    I like how this commenter says "yeah everything in Ken's kit is bad to slightly better than average" and then at the end of his sixth paragraph complaining about how everything the character has being either fake or bad ends with "he's 7th best in the game overall"

  • @KingJinzo2125
    @KingJinzo2125 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I seen similar ken delusion either on eventhubs or sonic sols channel. Something bout how everything is negative so you can parry and punish everything. I just looked at it, there’s a reason why it didn’t have a singular upvote

  • @Calve02
    @Calve02 Před 7 měsíci

    His bait was so good he got an entire video made about it

  • @bitterbatterdog
    @bitterbatterdog Před 7 měsíci

    This is my Sajam

  • @Kurinth
    @Kurinth Před 7 měsíci

    I wanna play the version of street fighter 6 that this guy is playing, that would be so nice
    I think I had a stroke listening to Sajam reading this, each statement was more unbelievable than the last.

  • @kkmasters
    @kkmasters Před 7 měsíci

    What video was the original comment posted on ?

  • @JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski
    @JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski Před 7 měsíci +2

    phew, when he was describing how absurdly wrong the comment was and how hard the guy simps for ken, i was worried one of my comments was going to get pulled up. i know they arent good takes, people, i just dont know how to not post them.

  • @Simplyprax
    @Simplyprax Před 7 měsíci

    This is me thinking on the toilet after getting destroyed in ranked