It’s cool to see the 307 is now fully electric. I do remember the 307 had a weekend night service previously before the pandemic & hasn’t returned since. The 307’s night service I have heard didn’t pick up too many passengers unlike some other weekend night services like the 34.
Good to see another work video, and the 100% roll out! However , it would be funny to see if you are impacted when the 279 electrics come in for that .
Assuming they all come at once then it should benefit us. At the moment, if there were a couple of ES's off the road then we could get stuck with a diesel.
Nice video Peter, good to hear about 307 becoming fully electric. I've seen DW500-505 being transferred to Dartford and Grays garages as they're were on loan for the routes at Enfield. North London areas are starting to become electric soon.
About time we get 100% electrics. Also happy that my other Route 384 is 100% electric as well now. Now we gotta wait for the 279 electrics to arrive now.
So the ES’s (Wright streetdeck electroliners) have come into full swing. It’s nice to see that Enfield finally put the charging infrastructure into full action here by making sure the ES’s were charged and raring to work the 307. I have to say arriva’s look lovely as at least you guys still get to keep the Arriva Brick Moquette and not some lifeless tfl moquette on them. I cannot wait to get a ride on these and see the 279 soon getting them once Enfield get the infrastructure ready for when it gets their batch
I imagine once the 279 electrics turn up it should make things a little easier for the shunters to allocate the late buses. Although I still cant see where they will install the additional chargers, other then the right hand side of the forecourt
So it appears like all companies, speed restrictions and new buses don't get changed running times. A lot of roads have speed restrictions now but running times haven't changed.
Good to see the 307 fully electric, i wonder how long itll take before these 23 regs start appearing on other routes like the 279, 349 and even 121. The 279/307 will likely intermix as well with the frogfaces and the vision zero faces. What were the LJ11 DWs (DW401-415) like when you had them on the 349? I recall they went to AR and are now at Tunbridge after they were withdrawn in the summer of 2022, i presume due to unreliability
These ES's wont stray to other routes, you might see the odd one stray once the full 279 allocation is received. Can't really comment on 401-415, like all our buses they cab be hit and miss, good one week and crap the next
@@BristolREahh i see. DW414 is actually the last one standing, i can just see that one remaining in your garage as a spare tbf, dont think itll go to the 158 as those ex-264 62 reg DWs are leaving E soon foe the 158. With the ES, with the rollout issues on the 307, yeah ur right that theyll just stick to the route until the 279 goes electric too. When the 279 receives its vision zero faces, you must be glad to see the back of those 61 reg Ts now given its been mentioned that theyre horrid to drive. Im surprised that the 61 reg Ts havent appeared on the 191 at all, any reason why apart from the blinds ofc?
@@zfs.59 I think in general the T buses were deemed too old at the start of the 191 contract, plus would be more expense to fit blinds to them when there are enough DWs
@@BristolREah yes i know the Ts are too old for the 191s, just wanted to know why they dont make appearances on the route. I can see they appear more frequently on the 121, 307 and 349 though and ur garage isnt too strict with LTs on the 349 as it always sees conventional DW/T buses which is nice. Im glad to see the 121 retained with the existing DWs for 3 years though, hope to see the 191 retained too if its up for tender. Im surprised that hybrids such as 62 reg HVs or even newer werent used for the 121 given lots will be spare off the 41, 141, 243 and 341 tbh.
@@zfs.59 They simply don't have the blinds. Arriva didn't want to spend extra money fitting new blind sets to contain the 191, as there were more than enough DWs, so they just upgraded those. The T's have 307 on the blinds from when we previously had the route
They deffo need at least 40% if you used 18% for that shift mentioned. Only say that bc if you drain them below 20% too often, the batteries will get worse. Either way, as you say, surely its not too difficult to charge enough in the evenings 😂
Some are going to the 158 to release its own share of LK66 HVs which it had got from PVR cuts to the 259 to the W3's hybrid allocation. The rest, im not sure but some could stay put at GY given their DWs are becoming unreliable with 2 62 regs already there covering for defective 09/59 regs
It's a safety feature. It's because the buses are technically silent, the sound is to alert hard of hearing people that a vehicle is close by. The sounds should stop at around 15mph as by that speed the bus should be away from the pavement and out in to the road.
You're supposed to call it in at 20%, only uses 10% on a complete rounder so unlikely to be subbed over depending on what mileage the bus has left to do. I have brought them back in at the end of my spell of duty showing 6%
@BristolRE when the 317 with Arriva the Bus Drivers always Complain because it toke ages for a T bus to move away from the bus stops plus it toke ages to Speed up on the A10 I was always getting called Mark this Buses are Driving me mad lol why did they're give me a DW
My opinion is the same - time lost to faffing with the doors & interlocks is much more important than bus manufacturers pretend.
Very much so, it's actually quicker at night to work with a traditional bus (like our DW or T) than it is with one of these
It’s cool to see the 307 is now fully electric. I do remember the 307 had a weekend night service previously before the pandemic & hasn’t returned since. The 307’s night service I have heard didn’t pick up too many passengers unlike some other weekend night services like the 34.
Yes, I cannot see the night service being reinstated
Good to see another work video, and the 100% roll out! However , it would be funny to see if you are impacted when the 279 electrics come in for that .
Assuming they all come at once then it should benefit us. At the moment, if there were a couple of ES's off the road then we could get stuck with a diesel.
Nice video Peter. About time too. Occasionally appearances of DWs is fairly acceptable but hopefully they’ll be few and far between.
Thanks, and I hope so as these ES's are nice to drive
Nice video Peter, good to hear about 307 becoming fully electric. I've seen DW500-505 being transferred to Dartford and Grays garages as they're were on loan for the routes at Enfield. North London areas are starting to become electric soon.
Thanks. 503 is a nice DW
@@BristolREunique door alarm
Nice video Peter! Good to hear there are nearly 100% electric buses on the 307 route.
Thanks, finally managed 100% yesterday from first to last bus
@@BristolRE finally lol 🎉🎉
@@fearless_huseyin 😂😂
About time we get 100% electrics. Also happy that my other Route 384 is 100% electric as well now. Now we gotta wait for the 279 electrics to arrive now.
Yes, these are nice
So the ES’s (Wright streetdeck electroliners) have come into full swing. It’s nice to see that Enfield finally put the charging infrastructure into full action here by making sure the ES’s were charged and raring to work the 307. I have to say arriva’s look lovely as at least you guys still get to keep the Arriva Brick Moquette and not some lifeless tfl moquette on them. I cannot wait to get a ride on these and see the 279 soon getting them once Enfield get the infrastructure ready for when it gets their batch
I think the 279 will not happen until maybe the end of this year, or early next year
@@BristolRE whenever it’s ready I cannot wait for the ES’s to roll out
@@easygo1477 Same here
@@BristolRE it’s lucky and good you guys at arriva still get to keep the classic brick moquette for the ES’s
@@easygo1477 Yes indeed
I imagine once the 279 electrics turn up it should make things a little easier for the shunters to allocate the late buses. Although I still cant see where they will install the additional chargers, other then the right hand side of the forecourt
I'm told hanging from the roof with remote control leads, not sure if that's a wind up or not
@@BristolRELOL I can see that
307 must be fully electrified by now I'm excited , btw route 86 has been 90 percent electrified, the route is fully allocated with Electroliners
Route 86 is confirmed to be running fully electrified I believe by Next Month or August
It is 100% now
@@ashwatthganesh485 Nice
Yay Nice video Peter
Thanks
@@BristolRE your welcome Peter and finally the 307 is 100 percent electric 😀
@@kallyahmed.5182 Yes indeed. It's been a long time coming
@@BristolRE yep
let'ss gooooo I was here yesterday as well🥳
Nice
Do Enfield arriva bus garage have opening days like Potters Bar bus garage
No
Nice video keep it up
Thanks
@@BristolRE you are welcome
I like the Electroliners. Will they be re introducing the 24 hour service?
No, I don't think so
So it appears like all companies, speed restrictions and new buses don't get changed running times. A lot of roads have speed restrictions now but running times haven't changed.
Yes indeed. A large chunk of the 279 is now 20mph but no increase in the running time
Good to see the 307 fully electric, i wonder how long itll take before these 23 regs start appearing on other routes like the 279, 349 and even 121. The 279/307 will likely intermix as well with the frogfaces and the vision zero faces. What were the LJ11 DWs (DW401-415) like when you had them on the 349? I recall they went to AR and are now at Tunbridge after they were withdrawn in the summer of 2022, i presume due to unreliability
These ES's wont stray to other routes, you might see the odd one stray once the full 279 allocation is received. Can't really comment on 401-415, like all our buses they cab be hit and miss, good one week and crap the next
@@BristolREahh i see. DW414 is actually the last one standing, i can just see that one remaining in your garage as a spare tbf, dont think itll go to the 158 as those ex-264 62 reg DWs are leaving E soon foe the 158. With the ES, with the rollout issues on the 307, yeah ur right that theyll just stick to the route until the 279 goes electric too. When the 279 receives its vision zero faces, you must be glad to see the back of those 61 reg Ts now given its been mentioned that theyre horrid to drive. Im surprised that the 61 reg Ts havent appeared on the 191 at all, any reason why apart from the blinds ofc?
@@zfs.59 I think in general the T buses were deemed too old at the start of the 191 contract, plus would be more expense to fit blinds to them when there are enough DWs
@@BristolREah yes i know the Ts are too old for the 191s, just wanted to know why they dont make appearances on the route. I can see they appear more frequently on the 121, 307 and 349 though and ur garage isnt too strict with LTs on the 349 as it always sees conventional DW/T buses which is nice. Im glad to see the 121 retained with the existing DWs for 3 years though, hope to see the 191 retained too if its up for tender. Im surprised that hybrids such as 62 reg HVs or even newer werent used for the 121 given lots will be spare off the 41, 141, 243 and 341 tbh.
@@zfs.59 They simply don't have the blinds. Arriva didn't want to spend extra money fitting new blind sets to contain the 191, as there were more than enough DWs, so they just upgraded those. The T's have 307 on the blinds from when we previously had the route
If not, do any arriva garage have it in London? And where?
I don't think they do, Arriva don't seem to like enthusiasts
OK thanks 😊
They deffo need at least 40% if you used 18% for that shift mentioned. Only say that bc if you drain them below 20% too often, the batteries will get worse. Either way, as you say, surely its not too difficult to charge enough in the evenings 😂
Indeed, Lol
great to see the electrics fully out. where will the 5 series 503-514 end up at?
Sorry, I've no idea where they will go
Some are going to the 158 to release its own share of LK66 HVs which it had got from PVR cuts to the 259 to the W3's hybrid allocation. The rest, im not sure but some could stay put at GY given their DWs are becoming unreliable with 2 62 regs already there covering for defective 09/59 regs
@@zfs.59 👍👍
Not enough lecy dear boy Energy costs
😂😂
What about the 279?
Not even got the chargers installed yet for those, so I'd guess late this year or early next year
just wondering, what are those humming noises it makes at the beginning? It's also like a low beeping when travelling at low speeds I've noticed.
It's a safety feature. It's because the buses are technically silent, the sound is to alert hard of hearing people that a vehicle is close by. The sounds should stop at around 15mph as by that speed the bus should be away from the pavement and out in to the road.
What's the lowest percentage battery they allow an EV to be on before having to go back to the shed?
You're supposed to call it in at 20%, only uses 10% on a complete rounder so unlikely to be subbed over depending on what mileage the bus has left to do. I have brought them back in at the end of my spell of duty showing 6%
@@BristolREcool. Should TFL invest in overhead charging points for buses or at least at stands?
@@mohibj Pointless as not all electric buses can use them, ours cannot
Take a T bus
No chance, these are way better
You won't be getting those back anymore, even if the route passes to Metroline again.
@BristolRE when the 317 with Arriva the Bus Drivers always Complain because it toke ages for a T bus to move away from the bus stops plus it toke ages to Speed up on the A10 I was always getting called Mark this Buses are Driving me mad lol why did they're give me a DW
@@ClassicVideos30 Indeed