Lots of folks are pointing out the mounting of the access point. I did not install it, the guys that did my basement renovation put it in so I have no idea how they mounted it. I have a feeling they may have incorporated two of the metal plates on each end as I had a bunch of them in a box. Either way it works and it's not going anywhere :)
Hey Lon, one thing to keep in mind is a 4x4 AP will not improve speeds on individual devices unless those devices also have 4x4 antennas, most devices are still 2x2. One immediate benefit of 4x4 APs is they can handle more dense environments.
AP AC-lite is a fantastic product. I put one in about 4 years ago and it's still doing a fantastic job. BTW: that metal plate that goes in the ceiling is called a doubler. It's supposed to go on the other side (top) of the tile.
@@gordonreeder3451 bridge/router mode is not hardware dependent, it is software dependent as they are modes of layer 2/3 traffic shaping. The Unifi products can be configured in advanced mode and have layer 2/3 traffic shaping ability. Repeaters work at the physical (Layer 1) level. But can be simulated on layer 2/3. And if stock FW is not enough you can always install OpenWrt.
@@niceguy235uk1 For most normal users 100Mbit per person really is (more than) enough at this moment for fluid internet experience. GigaBit is great for me as a power network user. Still bit slow for pumping huge data chunks though.
The nanoHD does just as good, holding off for the 6E versions that will eventually come out. I might try the 6 LR, maybe. The problem with 6 is 160 Mhz channels are about useless and 1024 QAM needs a really clean signal. So maybe 40Mhz with 1024 QAM might work out. The AC-Lite and AC-LR don't have the performance of the nanoHD or HD Pro.
@@JoshShannontx Still better off with 6E considering you only get two useable channels on 5Ghz. I've tried 160 in close quarters with little to no interference and still I'm sticking with 80 Max. Best of luck.
The 4x4 variant runs a dual core ARM cortex 53, while the lite version runs a mips processor. I'm disappointed these are not running 2.5 Gbps Ethernet. The wireless half duplex thing does not mean half speed, it just means wireless full speed one direction, but keep in mind these are MIMO antennas.
Great Video. Without POE injector and not compatible with previous POE injector are very important highlight. This video saves many people from unsuccessful installation at customer site, and probably saves a lot of return goods to ubiquiti....
Thanks Lon for this review. I have been holding back picking up the HD model for a Ubiquiti Wifi6. Will wait for the long range version to see what that offers.
Unless you have over 20 high bandwidth devices, you probably won’t see a benefit to a high density model. From what I understand they are for 100+ user environments.
There is a wifi 6 hd model and has 10gig Connecter. The wifi runs at 2.2 gig. The poe you had is a passive 24volt poe be very very care if you plug that into the laptop or a different brand ap it will damage /fry it. Not all poe's are the same you have to read it. Ubnt is moving away from 24v passive that is why you needed a different poe. The main reason they are changing is 802.11bt.
Great video as usual. Your tip about the POE injector saved me a ton of time. The new WiFi 6 access point wouldn’t power on using that injector that came with the AC lite. Plugging it into my POE switch remedied the issue and everything worked as existed from there. Thanks
There's definitely some gains going from .ac to .ax, but the benefit seems to be quite marginal. I'd be interested to see how it compares in a dense environment with plenty of devices connected and accessing the network.
Thanks for the quick review! I saw they released these recently, and was curious if there was a speed boost. I'm hoping a WiFi 6E version is available by the time my new house is finished being built so I can upgrade as I set up the new network there.
Virtual Desktop? So far I'm almost on the bleeding edge of not using link at all anymore. It's just so much nicer to use. I have a WiFi 6 router but its being used by 5 other things.
A little hint for all of you who want to adopt the U6 Lite to a (regular, non-Pro) Dream Machine. You need to update the UDMs Firmware to the latest beta to be able to adopt the access point. Took me only 3h to find that out...
Your AP is not mounted correctly with the metal bracket on your drop ceiling. The metal bracket goes behind the drop ceiling tile and the plastic mounting bracket is supposed to be bolted to it through the tile. This ends up being the plastic mounting bracket straight on the drop tile.
And it is also 802.3at (POE+) vs 802.3af. That 24 nonsense crap infuriated me about Ubuqiti back in the day. Companies need to follow industry standards
Half a gbps is great for a wireless connection. I do always wonder how these technologies will fare here in Europe. Generally to get from room to room signals have to get through a lot of brick and concrete. I've the feeling that everything after the 2,4 ghz era wasn't made with us in mind.
@@mazinal-waili509 Not easy running new cables in brick walls / concrete ceilings. Luckily I had cable run to most rooms in the house that matter when my house was built.
I'm getting 645Mbps with my iPhone 11 Pro Max and a nanoHD so the 6Lite is disappointing, hopefully the WiFi 6 version of the FlexHD will have much better result.
@@benjamintraficante9902 sure, but I suppose that depend on many factors. I have 3 AP dedicated to 5Ghz only : channel 106 VHT80 on the kitchen, just did a Speedtest : 638, living room channel 42 VHT80 (654mbps) hall channel 122 VHT80 (631mpbs)
I think you’ve missed the point of WiFi 6, it’s not really for bandwidth, it has technology to support way more devices at once without impacting individual devices’ airtime, something essential with all of the low bandwidth IOT devices coming out and flooding the home.
Hi, I enjoyed your video! I was wondering what the range is on the UniFi 6 Lite Access Point before speeds start to drop heavily? I just ordered 2 of these the other day and I want to know how the range will be in my house.
Wow, 2Gbps WAN symmetrical speeds! Awesome. I'm not sure if I'll ever see that in my lifetime where I live (different for commercial users in the CBD of course).
I got my AC-Lite after upgrading my Internet connection to 500/20 Mb. Previously I had 75/10 and used a TP-Link 802.11n AP, which couldn't handle VLANs properly.
@@larsjohansson9343 This I already knew, I hope they kept it at 24V for the Unifi 6 because I have a boatload of 24V original ubnt active Gbit poe injectors.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 sorry but I think you will need something else then. It says for the UniFi 6 Lite Access Point : Gigabit Ethernet, powered with 802.3af PoE According to that means min 44V en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet
It's not just the highest channel that gets you the highest speed all the time you should do a site survey to see what your neighbours are doing what other Wi-Fi devices are in the area then you should select the appropriate channel based on that I also found the same with the VT 80 it's not always best and you should lower it to Somewhere In The Middle because I get much much better results you need to have like no other wi-fi networks in range to be using all that. I don't understand why you're using a Dream Machine why you don't just go for the full thing of a cloud key
Take a look at this channel chart. According to it, the channels at either end run higher power than the "DFS" channels in the middle. Those DFS channels have to provide protection for radar and have a lower power limit. www.ekahau.com/blog/channel-planning-best-practices-for-better-wi-fi/
Question, isn't the metal mounting plate supposed to go on the top of the ceiling tile? Basically sandwiching the tile between the metal bracket and plastic mounting plate?
That's a tough choice. I'd say of you have more than 30 devices (including IoT), actually go for 2 Lites. If less than 30, get the LR and leave transmit power on Auto.
Got my UDM Pro in and configured last week, so I'm ordering two of these today!! What's the optimum channel configuration when you have multiple access points? I might eventually have three. Thanks for another great video. ~Frank
Fail... Can't even get close to a Gig. Will pass on that Unifi product. I will wait for Wifi 6E this month from Asus. Hope we will see insane speeds with it. Thanks for the review Lon.
According to the description, it can be either ceiling or wall mounted. I don't imagine there would be any difference between ceiling and "shelf" mounting, other than potential obstacles.
@@James_Knott Yes. I also read the documentation which is why I asked Lon. The documentation did not mention flat installation, implying it might not be supporter. Antennas tend to be directional.
@@alliejr First off, I do not know the details of AP antennas. However, they are not simple antennas, in that they use signal phase to direct the signal in the desired direction (beam steering). I recently saw a radiation pattern for the AC-Lite and it didn't appear to change much between horizontal and vertical mounting. Also, with ceiling vs shelf, the AP is still horizontal, just flipped over. My concern, with my wall mount, was the signal through the "bottom" of the AP, which is up against the wall. Here you have the electronics of the AP, which could potentially block the signal. However, if the antennas are mounted around the perimeter, that wouldn't be much of an issue.
Excellent review. I bought 2 HUAWEI WiFi AX3 (using as AP) but I'm considering returning it and get Unifi U6-Lite - is it wort the 50€ difference per unit? One important thing: Can I have the 2 Unifi AP's on the same ip range of my ISP router? Thank you
Mine adopts, provisions, updated and no clients can connect. ng, ax... e-mail into Ubiquit.. All devices just connect to my AC-Lites no matter what is done. Have the new macbook air m1.. no go.. ugh.
As another person here mentioned, are you providing 48V to the Unifi 6? 24V may be enough to get powered on and configured but it's not enough for clients to connect. LON mentioned his POE injector wasn't working but his POE switch, that outputs 48V, does work.
@@LonSeidman yes, everything is up to date. I am hoping this is just firmware. Just FYI i had to revert my AC-lites back one version from current as all wifi devices were losing connectivity. Reverting the ac-lites are fine. U6-Lite just sits with zero devices... curious if anyone else has seen this....
Be sure you don't have PMF enabled in the Wireless config. The AC-Lite Ignores this setting where the nanoHD and the AC 6 will not. I had that problem when I moved to nanoHD's from Lite and LR's. Just a thought about what could be going wrong.
I see you appear to have an octagon box behind the AP, which seems to require jury rigging the steel plate to mount it. Why do you have that box there? I thought the idea was to place the steel plate behind the ceiling tile, so that the screws would not pull out of the weak tile material. As low voltage wiring, Ethernet does not require a box, the way AC power does. However, I have run Ethernet to steel boxes that have a barrier between the data and AC power sides, but that's more of a convenience for the electricians that put in the conduits. I also like the method Cisco uses to clip the APs directly on the drop ceiling rails, which makes the installation a lot easier. BTW, I have a Unifi AC-Lite here. It's wall mounted in my laundry room.
See the pinned comment, there is no box on the other side of the tile - the guys that renovated the basement did the install and I suspect they may have had two of the metal plates in the box when they did this.
@@LonSeidman Take a look at 5:26 in the video. Unless I'm mistaken, that appears to be an octagon box, as you'd find behind a ceiling mounted light. It even has the corners like one. The Ethernet cable runs between the steel plate and box. If those guys do electrical work, they might have put a box there out of habit. If that box wasn't there, the steel plate would go on the top side of the tile and the cable would come through the hole in the middle of the plate. You also have extra holes drilled in the steel plate, to mount it. The original holes line up with the holes in the plastic mounting plate. My AP came with screws and nuts to attach the plastic plate to the steel plate. The instructions that came with it clearly show that.
I do wonder if I can use this by itself. I don't want to get a bunch of extra gear for this. Edit: PoE injectors are rated for different speeds, maybe you where using a 10/100 one instead of 10/100/1000?
Ubiquiti gear uses either of 2 different injectors, depending on model. Some can work with either. This also limits your choice of PoE switches for some models. Check before you buy.
There's not much to install it. When I put mine in, I used the 4 included drywall anchors, so that required a drill. That and a screw driver were the only tools I needed to mount the AP, though I also used a 110 punch & cable strippers to replace one of the keystone connectors.
You should not just choose the higher channel you should scan and see what channels are open and have low interference and then choose the best channel for your environment.
What's the point of that AP with wifi6 if manufactures still do not support 6Ghz frequency. Ubiquity in apartments is a huge disappointment, and we can get those 400-500Mbps only when nobody around me next 100m
If u scan your wifi with a utility i am curious if you come with a channel that says WEP security, so far i bought two of these access points and scanning shows a WEP channel??????? Anyone else seeing this? No legacy 802.11b is not on... Never happened with AC-Lites.
These vendors advertising high wireless speeds but only having single 1Gb ports are just asking for class-action lawsuits. How hard is it to add 2.5Gb or another 1Gb port and LACP?
I bought some NetGear Orbi's (RBK853) earlier which I _thought_ would future proof my home network - but they only have 1gb LAN connections - though I think you may have the ability to team the connections. Then again, all I have is gigabit asymmetric Comcast - though I don't know what you can find on the net that would serve or receive two gigabits unless you're running a high capacity server somewhere one hop off the network backbone. Does even CZcams allow you that fast a single stream connection speed?
CZcams allows some pretty crazy bit rates but I don't think 2 gigabits :). A friend of mine just got the same Comcast service as me and we have been streaming 4k blu rays back and forth via Plex - those are running about 100 max.
@@LonSeidman I often get nervous when I download a series or two of iTunes TV offerings since there's apparently no way to rate limit the Apple TV app, and Comcast has a penchant for rate limiting you if they think you're consuming too much data. They're perfectly willing to sell you the package (including unlimited - no cap) but are relatively aggressive about limiting your per stream speed if you actually try to use it 🤔.
Gigabit Ethernet was designed for plain CAT 5, before 5E was available, so CAT 6 won't make any difference. I have plain CAT 5 here, as it was installed over 20 years ago, by my cable TV company when I first got a cable modem. I bought the cable and they pulled in a couple of runs with the coax, to get from one end of my condo to the other.
It's about the same. Range on Wifi devices IMHO is not much different from one device to the other. Those who need better range should install more access points.
Not to be a Debbie downer. But I get more performance out of my MR33 Meraki device which is a 2x2 Mu-mimo WiFi 5. Also I have the UniFi nano HD and AC-HD and still get 650mbps. So I believe this device needs more work. I actually hit 950Mbps on my MR56 from Meraki that I’m testing out. And that was on Speedtest.net
@@RySeR95 yes ... paid only 260€ via cashback. For that money I have my router with Wifi, VPN server, no cabling cost, no extra switch needed, less electricity cost, 2.5Gb connection for my NAS, IPTV, no need of Poe injector... AND more Wifi speed ... so overall ... yes cheaper ...
Using a xaiomi ax3600 from aliexpress, and flashed with the english firmware. Best value and I dont trust hauwei and their ax3 pro. Hopefully opwnwrt gets ported to the ax3600 soon. It's a 4x4 unit. Using as an ap.
@@LonSeidman I updated my laptop to intel WiFi 6 card. Unifi AC pro to Unifi 6 LR (EA) My transfers to my NAS went from 12 MBs to 50 MBs. Directly under AP, I would get 80 MBs. Directly under AP, my Intel WiFi 6 card status in the properties speed says 1.2GB (I don't know if I can trust that) Using the latest UDM (not pro) firmware 1.83 and AP firmware. I should do an iperf test. Enjoy your videos! Thanks
Lots of folks are pointing out the mounting of the access point. I did not install it, the guys that did my basement renovation put it in so I have no idea how they mounted it. I have a feeling they may have incorporated two of the metal plates on each end as I had a bunch of them in a box. Either way it works and it's not going anywhere :)
Hey Lon, one thing to keep in mind is a 4x4 AP will not improve speeds on individual devices unless those devices also have 4x4 antennas, most devices are still 2x2. One immediate benefit of 4x4 APs is they can handle more dense environments.
@j s 4x4 pushes signal further, wtf? What kind of logic is that?
AP AC-lite is a fantastic product. I put one in about 4 years ago and it's still doing a fantastic job. BTW: that metal plate that goes in the ceiling is called a doubler. It's supposed to go on the other side (top) of the tile.
He said that in the video but apparently he doesn't listen to his own advice.
I installed 8 AC Pro APs at a customer's site, in 2016. They were delighted afterwards. UBNT is definitely worth the price.
Must the AC Llite be hard wired or can it work wirelessly as a wifi extender?
@@adheelb5833 Must be hard wired. It is an access point. It doesn't have bridge, repeater, or router modes.
@@gordonreeder3451 bridge/router mode is not hardware dependent, it is software dependent as they are modes of layer 2/3 traffic shaping. The Unifi products can be configured in advanced mode and have layer 2/3 traffic shaping ability. Repeaters work at the physical (Layer 1) level. But can be simulated on layer 2/3. And if stock FW is not enough you can always install OpenWrt.
This is one of the many reasons I switched to Ubiquiti a few years ago. If you want to upgrade wireless you just have to replace the AP.
10 years ago, 2 Gbit would serve large communities.
And still would. Totally pointless in a domestic environment.
@@niceguy235uk1 For most normal users 100Mbit per person really is (more than) enough at this moment for fluid internet experience. GigaBit is great for me as a power network user. Still bit slow for pumping huge data chunks though.
We love UniFi. working with them for years!
The nanoHD does just as good, holding off for the 6E versions that will eventually come out. I might try the 6 LR, maybe. The problem with 6 is 160 Mhz channels are about useless and 1024 QAM needs a really clean signal. So maybe 40Mhz with 1024 QAM might work out. The AC-Lite and AC-LR don't have the performance of the nanoHD or HD Pro.
Well said. I keeping mine
160 Mhz works if you have an AP in each room which is what I'm building out. Just need that sweet ax on a In-Wall-AP and I'm swapping boxes.
@@JoshShannontx Still better off with 6E considering you only get two useable channels on 5Ghz. I've tried 160 in close quarters with little to no interference and still I'm sticking with 80 Max. Best of luck.
I broke down and ordered one of the Unifi 6 LR's to test out.
The 4x4 variant runs a dual core ARM cortex 53, while the lite version runs a mips processor. I'm disappointed these are not running 2.5 Gbps Ethernet. The wireless half duplex thing does not mean half speed, it just means wireless full speed one direction, but keep in mind these are MIMO antennas.
Great Video. Without POE injector and not compatible with previous POE injector are very important highlight. This video saves many people from unsuccessful installation at customer site, and probably saves a lot of return goods to ubiquiti....
Look carefully at the last letter on the model number of the Ubiquiti PoE injector. If it ends in G, then its a gigabit model.
@@blackrockcity the compatibility isn’t the Fast Ethernet(100M) or gigabit Ethernet but POE. That’s why it can’t power up.
Thanks Lon for this review. I have been holding back picking up the HD model for a Ubiquiti Wifi6. Will wait for the long range version to see what that offers.
Unless you have over 20 high bandwidth devices, you probably won’t see a benefit to a high density model. From what I understand they are for 100+ user environments.
thanks leon. 1st Unifi 6 review i see in youtube
Glad to see that same mounting plate with ac lite!!!
There is a wifi 6 hd model and has 10gig Connecter. The wifi runs at 2.2 gig. The poe you had is a passive 24volt poe be very very care if you plug that into the laptop or a different brand ap it will damage /fry it. Not all poe's are the same you have to read it. Ubnt is moving away from 24v passive that is why you needed a different poe. The main reason they are changing is 802.11bt.
I use ubiquity devices for my home network. Very good products, I like them.
I've the AC lite. Thanks for the review... Based on the difference in speed you gained, I'll not be switching. Speed gain wasn't worth it
Great video as usual. Your tip about the POE injector saved me a ton of time. The new WiFi 6 access point wouldn’t power on using that injector that came with the AC lite. Plugging it into my POE switch remedied the issue and everything worked as existed from there. Thanks
For the U6-Lite you need a POE injector that support 802.3af. The POE-48-24W-G should suffice.
Great to see ubiquiti Wi-Fi 6 APs get going but for me the product falls apart with the 1GbE Lan connection.
2x2 WiFi6 will never saturate a 1GbE link, so it's irrelevant.
@@cmoullasnet so you have the choice to buy a cheaper Wi-Fi 5 ubiquity AP that goes 800Mbps
There's definitely some gains going from .ac to .ax, but the benefit seems to be quite marginal. I'd be interested to see how it compares in a dense environment with plenty of devices connected and accessing the network.
Thanks for the quick review! I saw they released these recently, and was curious if there was a speed boost. I'm hoping a WiFi 6E version is available by the time my new house is finished being built so I can upgrade as I set up the new network there.
ah nice, Wi-Fi 6, I want this for my VR streaming
Virtual Desktop? So far I'm almost on the bleeding edge of not using link at all anymore. It's just so much nicer to use. I have a WiFi 6 router but its being used by 5 other things.
A little hint for all of you who want to adopt the U6 Lite to a (regular, non-Pro) Dream Machine. You need to update the UDMs Firmware to the latest beta to be able to adopt the access point. Took me only 3h to find that out...
It’s changed from 24v to 45v, 24v was only used by Ubiquiti so nice they use standard Poe now
It's unfortunate that it doesn't support 160 MHz channel width yet although I've heard that it's coming? Speeds should be a lot faster with that.
Your AP is not mounted correctly with the metal bracket on your drop ceiling. The metal bracket goes behind the drop ceiling tile and the plastic mounting bracket is supposed to be bolted to it through the tile. This ends up being the plastic mounting bracket straight on the drop tile.
see the pinned comment
I believe you have the drop ceiling mounting done incorrectly. The gray metal bracket should be on the top side of the tile.
The reason your existing injector didn't work is because the one that came with your AC Lite is 24V but the 6 Lite needs 48V
AC Lite is 24V passive PoE (later versions also support 802.3 af PoE) and 6 Lite only supports 802.3 af
And it is also 802.3at (POE+) vs 802.3af.
That 24 nonsense crap infuriated me about Ubuqiti back in the day. Companies need to follow industry standards
Also the UniFi 6 Long-Range is 802.3at PoE powered
Half a gbps is great for a wireless connection. I do always wonder how these technologies will fare here in Europe. Generally to get from room to room signals have to get through a lot of brick and concrete. I've the feeling that everything after the 2,4 ghz era wasn't made with us in mind.
Deploy more of the lites where speed matters.
I have 7 APs running only 5ghz in my house.
@@mazinal-waili509 Not easy running new cables in brick walls / concrete ceilings. Luckily I had cable run to most rooms in the house that matter when my house was built.
I'm getting 645Mbps with my iPhone 11 Pro Max and a nanoHD so the 6Lite is disappointing, hopefully the WiFi 6 version of the FlexHD will have much better result.
Could you tell me what channel and VHT you have? I’m struggling to get over 300 on my 12 Pro Max.
@@benjamintraficante9902 sure, but I suppose that depend on many factors. I have 3 AP dedicated to 5Ghz only : channel 106 VHT80 on the kitchen, just did a Speedtest : 638, living room channel 42 VHT80 (654mbps) hall channel 122 VHT80 (631mpbs)
Perhaps it would have been a more realistic test if the channel selection was the same as the other one.
Pretty sure that metal plate is supposed to be on the other side of drop ceiling.
see the pinned comment
Yes, the metal plate goes on the top of a dropped ceiling tile.
That is correct. It’s the backing plate to the foamy drop down tile. Funny that he decided not to read the directions.
I wish these were 24v passive, I’m using an EdgeRouter SFP to power my current APs.
Yeah overall active poe switch is good investment for the future
For me, it's a tough choice between waiting for a new Pro AP from them or get several lite units.
You mean LR? Pro are more spot (multiple) and LR is wide range.
I think you’ve missed the point of WiFi 6, it’s not really for bandwidth, it has technology to support way more devices at once without impacting individual devices’ airtime, something essential with all of the low bandwidth IOT devices coming out and flooding the home.
Hi, I enjoyed your video! I was wondering what the range is on the UniFi 6 Lite Access Point
before speeds start to drop heavily? I just ordered 2 of these the other day and I want to know how the range will be in my house.
Should take do a site survey of your house. Every install is different depending on building materials and physical layout
4x4 would not increase throughout unless your device is 4x4, correct? Most WiFi 6 devices are 2x2 to my knowledge.
Correct but I do get 4x4 devices in from time to time. Although 4x4 should increase capacity for 2x2 devices.
Wow, 2Gbps WAN symmetrical speeds! Awesome. I'm not sure if I'll ever see that in my lifetime where I live (different for commercial users in the CBD of course).
My connection is 15mbps. Why am I watching this? :/
Do a better job on 4g LTE
Because it’s not just about access to the internet. It’s also about access to devices on the network.
I got my AC-Lite after upgrading my Internet connection to 500/20 Mb. Previously I had 75/10 and used a TP-Link 802.11n AP, which couldn't handle VLANs properly.
what router did you switch too? on a good day my AC lite is doing 167/40 Mb.
@@Ed-sh8jt 550/550 on nanoHD.
What is the PoE voltage? 24 or 48 Volts? may have been said, i probably missed it
24 for the old at least.
@@larsjohansson9343 This I already knew, I hope they kept it at 24V for the Unifi 6 because I have a boatload of 24V original ubnt active Gbit poe injectors.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 sorry but I think you will need something else then.
It says for the UniFi 6 Lite Access Point
: Gigabit Ethernet, powered with 802.3af PoE
According to that means min 44V
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet
@@larsjohansson9343 Thanks for the info :)
It's not just the highest channel that gets you the highest speed all the time you should do a site survey to see what your neighbours are doing what other Wi-Fi devices are in the area then you should select the appropriate channel based on that I also found the same with the VT 80 it's not always best and you should lower it to Somewhere In The Middle because I get much much better results you need to have like no other wi-fi networks in range to be using all that. I don't understand why you're using a Dream Machine why you don't just go for the full thing of a cloud key
Take a look at this channel chart. According to it, the channels at either end run higher power than the "DFS" channels in the middle. Those DFS channels have to provide protection for radar and have a lower power limit.
www.ekahau.com/blog/channel-planning-best-practices-for-better-wi-fi/
perfect timing.
Did you just change the channel on one of the access points the new lite WIFI 6? How did you know they were interfering with each other?
Question, isn't the metal mounting plate supposed to go on the top of the ceiling tile? Basically sandwiching the tile between the metal bracket and plastic mounting plate?
Probably :) - the guys that did my basement installed it, there might be one on the other side too.
Hi. I am missing the "Open Wireless Diagnostics..." on my Mac - how did you get that one?
Hold down option when clicking the WiFi icon on the menu bar
@@LonSeidman Thanks a lot - keeps forgetting to use that key :-/
What is the range of this device. I have 2k sqft house 1 story with metal studs will I get adequate coverage or should I get the wifi6 LR version?
That's a tough choice. I'd say of you have more than 30 devices (including IoT), actually go for 2 Lites. If less than 30, get the LR and leave transmit power on Auto.
Got my UDM Pro in and configured last week, so I'm ordering two of these today!! What's the optimum channel configuration when you have multiple access points? I might eventually have three. Thanks for another great video. ~Frank
Thank you
Is there a good alternative to WiFPerf for macos these days?
Can you provide best version software link to install and adopt unifi 6lite....
Just think, Now you can get hit with your COMCAST download caps and penalty charges twice as fast,
Fail... Can't even get close to a Gig. Will pass on that Unifi product. I will wait for Wifi 6E this month from Asus. Hope we will see insane speeds with it. Thanks for the review Lon.
Excellent. Does it require ceiling or wall mounting? Or can it operate just sitting on a shelf?
I have a few sitting on a shelf and the work fine.
According to the description, it can be either ceiling or wall mounted. I don't imagine there would be any difference between ceiling and "shelf" mounting, other than potential obstacles.
@@James_Knott Yes. I also read the documentation which is why I asked Lon. The documentation did not mention flat installation, implying it might not be supporter. Antennas tend to be directional.
@@alliejr First off, I do not know the details of AP antennas. However, they are not simple antennas, in that they use signal phase to direct the signal in the desired direction (beam steering). I recently saw a radiation pattern for the AC-Lite and it didn't appear to change much between horizontal and vertical mounting. Also, with ceiling vs shelf, the AP is still horizontal, just flipped over. My concern, with my wall mount, was the signal through the "bottom" of the AP, which is up against the wall. Here you have the electronics of the AP, which could potentially block the signal. However, if the antennas are mounted around the perimeter, that wouldn't be much of an issue.
Excellent review.
I bought 2 HUAWEI WiFi AX3 (using as AP) but I'm considering returning it and get Unifi U6-Lite - is it wort the 50€ difference per unit?
One important thing: Can I have the 2 Unifi AP's on the same ip range of my ISP router?
Thank you
@Lon.TV
Link to the 10G network video please?
Do I need a dream machine to make the APs work? I have a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X, I'm hoping that will be enough
At the end you said you were having an issue with the POE injector. What injector were you using and a what issues were you seeing?
Cant u use the normal poe injector from uniquity ?
How are you getting the Wi-Fi statistics on the macOS drop-down menu?
Hold down the option key while clicking
@@LonSeidman Thank you!
Mine adopts, provisions, updated and no clients can connect. ng, ax... e-mail into Ubiquit.. All devices just connect to my AC-Lites no matter what is done. Have the new macbook air m1.. no go.. ugh.
Very odd - I was using my Macbook Air M1 when we tested. Is your controller up to date?
As another person here mentioned, are you providing 48V to the Unifi 6? 24V may be enough to get powered on and configured but it's not enough for clients to connect. LON mentioned his POE injector wasn't working but his POE switch, that outputs 48V, does work.
@@LonSeidman yes, everything is up to date. I am hoping this is just firmware. Just FYI i had to revert my AC-lites back one version from current as all wifi devices were losing connectivity. Reverting the ac-lites are fine. U6-Lite just sits with zero devices... curious if anyone else has seen this....
Be sure you don't have PMF enabled in the Wireless config. The AC-Lite Ignores this setting where the nanoHD and the AC 6 will not. I had that problem when I moved to nanoHD's from Lite and LR's. Just a thought about what could be going wrong.
@@igeekone I am using a 48v gig injector so that part is ok..
Sorry if you stated the router, but what router are you using with the AP 6 Lite?
I have a UniFi AC AP Pro. Would this be a decent upgrade? I don’t have any wifi 6 devices yet.
I see you appear to have an octagon box behind the AP, which seems to require jury rigging the steel plate to mount it. Why do you have that box there? I thought the idea was to place the steel plate behind the ceiling tile, so that the screws would not pull out of the weak tile material. As low voltage wiring, Ethernet does not require a box, the way AC power does. However, I have run Ethernet to steel boxes that have a barrier between the data and AC power sides, but that's more of a convenience for the electricians that put in the conduits. I also like the method Cisco uses to clip the APs directly on the drop ceiling rails, which makes the installation a lot easier.
BTW, I have a Unifi AC-Lite here. It's wall mounted in my laundry room.
See the pinned comment, there is no box on the other side of the tile - the guys that renovated the basement did the install and I suspect they may have had two of the metal plates in the box when they did this.
@@LonSeidman Take a look at 5:26 in the video. Unless I'm mistaken, that appears to be an octagon box, as you'd find behind a ceiling mounted light. It even has the corners like one. The Ethernet cable runs between the steel plate and box. If those guys do electrical work, they might have put a box there out of habit. If that box wasn't there, the steel plate would go on the top side of the tile and the cable would come through the hole in the middle of the plate. You also have extra holes drilled in the steel plate, to mount it. The original holes line up with the holes in the plastic mounting plate. My AP came with screws and nuts to attach the plastic plate to the steel plate. The instructions that came with it clearly show that.
Are you gonna be comparing this to the Unifi6 LR in the future?
Where did you buy it? ui.com says pre-order, but no option to actually do so.
Just get the new Enterprise Switch - pity, that the WAPs are still not supporting 2.5 Gbe Uplink Ports or Dual Gigabit Ports for some Form of Bonding.
No link in the description for the earlier video on wired and I'm scrolling and scrolling through your channel due the large amount of videos
It's in the first paragraph of the description: lon.tv/gigpro
@@LonSeidman oohh I was expecting it to be a CZcams link it's also hard AF to see on a mobile screen. Another reason a preff a pc. My bad
I do wonder if I can use this by itself. I don't want to get a bunch of extra gear for this.
Edit:
PoE injectors are rated for different speeds, maybe you where using a 10/100 one instead of 10/100/1000?
Then how would he be getting speed above 100 MB if he wasn't using the 10 / 100 / 1000
Ubiquiti gear uses either of 2 different injectors, depending on model. Some can work with either. This also limits your choice of PoE switches for some models. Check before you buy.
There's not much to install it. When I put mine in, I used the 4 included drywall anchors, so that required a drill. That and a screw driver were the only tools I needed to mount the AP, though I also used a 110 punch & cable strippers to replace one of the keystone connectors.
@@elixier33 You can get lucky, just because something isn't rated for a speed it can go higher.
@@James_Knott I meant hardware as in the fancy router they sell. I just want an AP.
Thank you !
You should not just choose the higher channel you should scan and see what channels are open and have low interference and then choose the best channel for your environment.
Does this UniFi 6 have RGBW light? Like the FlexHD has?
What's the area covered by a single device?
What's the point of that AP with wifi6 if manufactures still do not support 6Ghz frequency. Ubiquity in apartments is a huge disappointment, and we can get those 400-500Mbps only when nobody around me next 100m
Can I hook this up with the Xfinity router?
If u scan your wifi with a utility i am curious if you come with a channel that says WEP security, so far i bought two of these access points and scanning shows a WEP channel??????? Anyone else seeing this? No legacy 802.11b is not on... Never happened with AC-Lites.
Ugh its meshing, turn off meshing and the extra hidden channels go away including the WEP channel.. Why is WEP even there at this point?????
These vendors advertising high wireless speeds but only having single 1Gb ports are just asking for class-action lawsuits. How hard is it to add 2.5Gb or another 1Gb port and LACP?
I bought some NetGear Orbi's (RBK853) earlier which I _thought_ would future proof my home network - but they only have 1gb LAN connections - though I think you may have the ability to team the connections.
Then again, all I have is gigabit asymmetric Comcast - though I don't know what you can find on the net that would serve or receive two gigabits unless you're running a high capacity server somewhere one hop off the network backbone.
Does even CZcams allow you that fast a single stream connection speed?
CZcams allows some pretty crazy bit rates but I don't think 2 gigabits :). A friend of mine just got the same Comcast service as me and we have been streaming 4k blu rays back and forth via Plex - those are running about 100 max.
@@LonSeidman I often get nervous when I download a series or two of iTunes TV offerings since there's apparently no way to rate limit the Apple TV app, and Comcast has a penchant for rate limiting you if they think you're consuming too much data.
They're perfectly willing to sell you the package (including unlimited - no cap) but are relatively aggressive about limiting your per stream speed if you actually try to use it 🤔.
Where can I buy this?
Don’t ...
is your POE CAT6?
Cat 5e on these.
Gigabit Ethernet was designed for plain CAT 5, before 5E was available, so CAT 6 won't make any difference. I have plain CAT 5 here, as it was installed over 20 years ago, by my cable TV company when I first got a cable modem. I bought the cable and they pulled in a couple of runs with the coax, to get from one end of my condo to the other.
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how about the range?
It's about the same. Range on Wifi devices IMHO is not much different from one device to the other. Those who need better range should install more access points.
@@LonSeidman thanks a lot for the quick reply!
Not to be a Debbie downer. But I get more performance out of my MR33 Meraki device which is a 2x2 Mu-mimo WiFi 5. Also I have the UniFi nano HD and AC-HD and still get 650mbps. So I believe this device needs more work. I actually hit 950Mbps on my MR56 from Meraki that I’m testing out. And that was on Speedtest.net
I have an mr33. Not impressed
I have more speed with my ASUS AX11000. I’m getting around 951Mbps in DL
Yeah and it costs the same right?
Price?
@@RySeR95 yes ... paid only 260€ via cashback. For that money I have my router with Wifi, VPN server, no cabling cost, no extra switch needed, less electricity cost, 2.5Gb connection for my NAS, IPTV, no need of Poe injector... AND more Wifi speed ... so overall ... yes cheaper ...
It’s a crap router
@@timmark4190 Because ..?
It doesn’t make sense if you can just use WiFi AC with 160MHz channel bandwidth. I easily get 600-700Mbit
Do a review of the new qnap wifi 6 router with 10gbe
QHora 301W? That is a trash. I bought and ready to sell it.
Using a xaiomi ax3600 from aliexpress, and flashed with the english firmware. Best value and I dont trust hauwei and their ax3 pro. Hopefully opwnwrt gets ported to the ax3600 soon. It's a 4x4 unit. Using as an ap.
Does your laptop have a WiFi 6 network card. I know the iPhone is Wifi 6
Yes both my laptop and iPhone have it, 2x2 radios in each.
@@LonSeidman I updated my laptop to intel WiFi 6 card. Unifi AC pro to Unifi 6 LR (EA) My transfers to my NAS went from 12 MBs to 50 MBs. Directly under AP, I would get 80 MBs. Directly under AP, my Intel WiFi 6 card status in the properties speed says 1.2GB (I don't know if I can trust that) Using the latest UDM (not pro) firmware 1.83 and AP firmware. I should do an iperf test. Enjoy your videos! Thanks
Now they just need to make this in the nanoHD version since I like the smaller size that can be recessed better and I'm sold.
The 6 lite is nano size. The long range is full size
I get better performance from the nanoHD.
And it costs more money
@@Rettro404 you’d think the newer standard that is supposed to have better performance would either cost more or actually live up to the hype
Ah, so that's why I couldn't find that app.
How do this work? 2 views and 13 upvotes?
The view count is not in real-time
Eventual consistency.
Good content, keep it up. Thank you.
something wrong with your sound
So, basically Unifi telling lies with false advertising.
Crap. I only bought a UniFi UAP-AC-LR earlier this year. I thought it was going to be a while before Ubiquiti came out with WiFi-6 APs.
They often "push something out the door" early.
@@ChrisNicholson Have they pushed these out early? Been waiting age for these APs, while idling looking at everyone elses :D
As the Jesus Twins implored us, Feel my Ubiquiti
you aren't likely going to seemuch improvement unless both pc and laptop have ssd's in them
Sorry lon, unsubscribing, sick of everyone reviewing everything, get back to how you used to be
Uh I’ve been reviewing things from the beginning
Reviewing things is primarily what this channel does. How long have you been subscribed😂?
Uh that's what his channel does? Your not very clever are you
ADIOS! Craig lol
Lovely community
This is a big overpriced shit ...cheap mesh systems can do this speeds or even faster