Overall, good video, HOWEVER, since you saw the switch with test 3 from 5 GHz to 2.4 GHz, you needed to go back and do the speed test again on 2.4 and update the chart.
nice and very useful video, really interested in a 160Hz channel width comparison, 6lite don't have it but I guess LR and 6Pro do. keep the good videos coming
I have been very pleased with the U6 LR. Upgraded from 2 x NanoHD to 2 x U6-LR. I had decent coverage and speeds with the Nanos. I went ot eh U6-LR and the area of reliablecoveage increased, with speed increases in many areas. Using 160Mhz channels and my laptop with Intel AX201 chip I can come close to saturate the 1gb Internet with speedtest in the 750-800 range, 15 feet and 2 walls away form the nearest AP.
All the settings were default out of the box. The only setting i changed was the channel with on the 5GHz range, changed from 40 to 80. I have seen better performance out of these access points but I wanted to show them as they were.
Which one is better and why? The pro or the U6-LR because I need help deciding. I think the LR is better because of the 4x4 MU Mimo of both 5ghz and 2.4ghz. But I am lost confused by the 160 Mhz capability.
I'm not a network engineer, but "better" all boils down to your use case. For home use, the Lite should be plenty sufficient. The LR and Pro versions are designed for business/commercial scenarios with potentially hundreds of clients connecting to them concurrently. The LR is outdoor rated if that is a factor in your deployment scenario.
Given that the majority of current client equipment still comes with low spec radios you may be better off getting the lites and having twice as many of them (allowing for other infrastructure).
Great stuff as always!! I had talked myself into needing to replace my U6-LRs with U6-Pros even though they were working just fine after following your previous optimization video for the LRs. What do you recommend for settings on the U6-Pros for best performance?
The setting I showed you on the U6-LR can be applied to the U6- Pro as well. It about finding the right settings for where you are located. Let me know how you get on with them 😀
@@InsideWire if your test setup can only get you 40-50mbit upload then you are not doing a good/fair test and need to improve your setup. It sounds like it's trying to test your throughput on the ISP and not the local network. something sounds wrong with your numbers.
@@InsideWire so the test you do is meaningless then. You're testing an LAN AP and trying to shove all those packets over the Internet which is going to heavily bottleneck you, not show you the actual performance of the device you're testing.
@@InsideWire Yes, you need to use LAN speee test tools like iPerf or OpenSpeeTest. So that you can see full potential of these devices. Your Internet speed test is meaning less.. because it will change every other seconds.
Comparison is not quite fair, as TX power from AP (and station) is different depending on channel used as it is regulated by local laws. So ch36 will have different TX from ch149, this impacts stations the most.
You say you have 2 stud walls, that's great, but what is the actual distance from the AP to the test points? What are your actual internet speeds on the day of doing the tests? You should lock them to 5GHz and 2.4GHz for testing and test each band indvidually. Unfortunately without the more detail it is hard to be able to really take the tests eriously as they can't be compared to other similar tests.
I do mention what my internet speeds are at some point. Its 600 down, 40 up. Again i do mention the distance. Ill keep in mind about the band locking to include that in my next review
Exactally what I thought also, completly useless values, the only interesting part is the signal strength which just clarify the models distance. Time to check others who do a iPerf3 test on the device capabilities not someones internet speeds. :-)
...so they quote 2400 and 4800 Mbps, and they deliver 1/4 of that. Looks like they're real-world only delivering double the speeds of the AP-AC-Pro and other previous generation APs. Am I missing something? Thanks for putting real testing data into a comparison chart.
This is normal as the 2400 / 4800 etc is total throughput of the device, nothing to do with the actual through put on one band to one device. When you see AC2400 or AX2400 or whatever they use, that is the total of all bands added together, with AC / AX etc indicating what subset of 802.11 it is using. It also depends on the internet/server speed the test is being run on which is unknown in this video. Ultimately, the most they can get in reality is gigabit speed as the ethernet port on all the Unifi devices is still only gigabit
My U6-LR's were rocking on speeds. Not so much anymore. I think they screwed up something with firmware releases. Channels don't appear to fix anything. IDK, annoying.
@@InsideWire The description still talks about the cameras. (last paragraph). And you should probably mention you got the up/down rows mixed up for Test 1 on the spreadsheet in the video. :) The video was very useful though as I am pondering between U6 lite and pro
Just don't understand how they can announce this speeds with 1GB Ethernet port on the access point. One thing for sure, on that port only will pass 1GB = 125MB/s max theoretical speed.
There is big difference between on paper max hardware capability and real life circumstance. The only way to run in that 1 Gbps ethernet port bottleneck is if you use 3x3 or higher clients or if you use both bands on max in 2x2 throughput . Most clients are 2x2 and they have a max of 1,2 Gbps(5GHZ) throughput and these AP are dual band . This means all 2x2 share in total of1.2 Gbps bandwidth what means they wont hit the 1 Gbps in real-life (overhead/interference).
Likely it means between multiple WiFi users. Like, 2 laptops. Or for me, streaming from a laptop to my quest 2. On my AC lite streaming gameplay to the laptop causes glitches because they are sharing the bandwidth where as if I stream to my tower which is hardwired then it’s not an issue.
@@ryanhamstra49 hum, this doesn't convince me, the traffic has to pass over the Router so allways over that Gigabit port. The traffic doesn't go directly from one device to another using only the access point.
Even aside from these products I'd love to have your speed. 200 is probably closer to $90/month, 1gbps $200/month, no other competitors...a real shame. I do want to get a Pro instead of using my old Asus AC68U
I was anxiously waiting for him to acknowledge that he switched "speed down/up" for the Test 1 across all devices
Overall, good video, HOWEVER, since you saw the switch with test 3 from 5 GHz to 2.4 GHz, you needed to go back and do the speed test again on 2.4 and update the chart.
Great tests, thanks. I noticed download and upload speed should be swapped in test 1, would be nice to fix it so watchers aren't confused.
nice and very useful video, really interested in a 160Hz channel width comparison, 6lite don't have it but I guess LR and 6Pro do. keep the good videos coming
Glad it was helpful! Let me see if I can do a video on the 160Hz width. 😀
I have been very pleased with the U6 LR. Upgraded from 2 x NanoHD to 2 x U6-LR. I had decent coverage and speeds with the Nanos. I went ot eh U6-LR and the area of reliablecoveage increased, with speed increases in many areas. Using 160Mhz channels and my laptop with Intel AX201 chip I can come close to saturate the 1gb Internet with speedtest in the 750-800 range, 15 feet and 2 walls away form the nearest AP.
Thats awesome. Good to hear! 😃
why don't you use iperf3 for these tests to eliminate any other variable like your internet provider?
Agreed 100%. You can't have an accurate wifi test unless you eliminate everything beyond your router outwards.
Thanks for the real numbers!
Any time!
Error in your table near the start. LR and Pro have their 160MHz capability swapped
Thanks for letting me know.
heads up the pro top column, you've got the UP AND down the wrong way around :D
Hello, in your excel sheet I think you confused Speed Up with Speed down
You're right, good spot!
Thanks, downloaded the APP you mentioned, its very usefull
Great 👍 Happy to help 😀
Kinda curious about the design of your house, how you have a ground floor and a 1st floor that aren't the same.
haha, its side extension.. the second floor didnt follow the ground floor all the way..
Did you set the same frequency on all the ap’s? I notice a big difference when testing on different frequencies.
All the settings were default out of the box. The only setting i changed was the channel with on the 5GHz range, changed from 40 to 80. I have seen better performance out of these access points but I wanted to show them as they were.
Which one is better and why? The pro or the U6-LR because I need help deciding. I think the LR is better because of the 4x4 MU Mimo of both 5ghz and 2.4ghz. But I am lost confused by the 160 Mhz capability.
I'm not a network engineer, but "better" all boils down to your use case. For home use, the Lite should be plenty sufficient. The LR and Pro versions are designed for business/commercial scenarios with potentially hundreds of clients connecting to them concurrently. The LR is outdoor rated if that is a factor in your deployment scenario.
Given that the majority of current client equipment still comes with low spec radios you may be better off getting the lites and having twice as many of them (allowing for other infrastructure).
I find the handover to the best AP is often slow to never at least with Apple products, if this worked faster then I would agree with you.
Great stuff as always!! I had talked myself into needing to replace my U6-LRs with U6-Pros even though they were working just fine after following your previous optimization video for the LRs. What do you recommend for settings on the U6-Pros for best performance?
The setting I showed you on the U6-LR can be applied to the U6- Pro as well. It about finding the right settings for where you are located. Let me know how you get on with them 😀
Test 1 near AP, why the download speed too slow?
looks like he swapped the download and upload speeds on his spreadsheet by mistake in all 3 same-room tests.
Need to use iperf for testing, so we can see actual network bandwidth, not internet bandwidth.
iPerf is an option to use however, I chose to use the WiFiman app this gives me the throughput of the access point.
@@InsideWire if your test setup can only get you 40-50mbit upload then you are not doing a good/fair test and need to improve your setup. It sounds like it's trying to test your throughput on the ISP and not the local network. something sounds wrong with your numbers.
The 40-50mbps is the limit is the ISP. The throughput is the real test as that shows me what speed I can get through my network.
@@InsideWire so the test you do is meaningless then. You're testing an LAN AP and trying to shove all those packets over the Internet which is going to heavily bottleneck you, not show you the actual performance of the device you're testing.
@@InsideWire Yes, you need to use LAN speee test tools like iPerf or OpenSpeeTest. So that you can see full potential of these devices. Your Internet speed test is meaning less.. because it will change every other seconds.
Comparison is not quite fair, as TX power from AP (and station) is different depending on channel used as it is regulated by local laws. So ch36 will have different TX from ch149, this impacts stations the most.
Such a shame you didn't do test 4, in the room directly below the AP...
I will include this when i do another one 😃 it doesn't help with this video but one for the future.
You say you have 2 stud walls, that's great, but what is the actual distance from the AP to the test points? What are your actual internet speeds on the day of doing the tests? You should lock them to 5GHz and 2.4GHz for testing and test each band indvidually.
Unfortunately without the more detail it is hard to be able to really take the tests eriously as they can't be compared to other similar tests.
I do mention what my internet speeds are at some point. Its 600 down, 40 up. Again i do mention the distance. Ill keep in mind about the band locking to include that in my next review
@@InsideWire Apologies if I missed the distances in the video. I watched it a couple of times and missed them both times.
Ur not testing wifi, ur testing internet 😐
Exactally what I thought also, completly useless values, the only interesting part is the signal strength which just clarify the models distance. Time to check others who do a iPerf3 test on the device capabilities not someones internet speeds. :-)
He did test the Throughput, watch it again.
How do they compare to the U6-IW wall plate mounted Wi-Fi 6 unit?
What is the unobstructed or walled range of each access point?
Hello, can a Unifi Dream Router (UDR) power these access points?
You can power the U6 Lite.
How did you get your hands on the Pro?
Friend of mine got them for this house and let me review them before they get fitted.
What app are you using to measure please
WiFi Man
What phone was mapper test performed with ?
iPhone
...so they quote 2400 and 4800 Mbps, and they deliver 1/4 of that. Looks like they're real-world only delivering double the speeds of the AP-AC-Pro and other previous generation APs. Am I missing something? Thanks for putting real testing data into a comparison chart.
This is normal as the 2400 / 4800 etc is total throughput of the device, nothing to do with the actual through put on one band to one device. When you see AC2400 or AX2400 or whatever they use, that is the total of all bands added together, with AC / AX etc indicating what subset of 802.11 it is using. It also depends on the internet/server speed the test is being run on which is unknown in this video.
Ultimately, the most they can get in reality is gigabit speed as the ethernet port on all the Unifi devices is still only gigabit
My U6-LR's were rocking on speeds. Not so much anymore. I think they screwed up something with firmware releases. Channels don't appear to fix anything. IDK, annoying.
Have you reported to Ubiquiti? heard anything?
@@InsideWire Naaa, I'm just going to try the U6-Enterprise and see how that does.
What effect does simultaneous users have?
fascinating
What app is giving the signal strength?
WiFiman app from Ubiquiti
Your description includes something old / wrong about the cameras (maybe from a different video?)
Thanks, ill take a look
@@InsideWire The description still talks about the cameras. (last paragraph). And you should probably mention you got the up/down rows mixed up for Test 1 on the spreadsheet in the video. :) The video was very useful though as I am pondering between U6 lite and pro
how does the pro get 4800Mbps while the LR only has 2400, when the LR does 4X4 on 160 but pro only does 2X2 @ 160. how does that math work?
These were the specs on the UI website.
those numbers say nothing they just add upp all the numbers from each band and antenna you will barely get 500-800 Mbps when sitting next too it.
I know I can get more throughput from these access points, but I said I have left them at default settings apart from the channel width.
That´s because he switched the numbers. It is the Pro that has 4x4 on 160, the LR has 2x2 on 160.
Just don't understand how they can announce this speeds with 1GB Ethernet port on the access point. One thing for sure, on that port only will pass 1GB = 125MB/s max theoretical speed.
Right?! If everything is being squeezed down a 1Gbps ethernet wire, what's the point of claiming 5Gbps throughput?
There is big difference between on paper max hardware capability and real life circumstance. The only way to run in that 1 Gbps ethernet port bottleneck is if you use 3x3 or higher clients or if you use both bands on max in 2x2 throughput . Most clients are 2x2 and they have a max of 1,2 Gbps(5GHZ) throughput and these AP are dual band . This means all 2x2 share in total of1.2 Gbps bandwidth what means they wont hit the 1 Gbps in real-life (overhead/interference).
Likely it means between multiple WiFi users. Like, 2 laptops. Or for me, streaming from a laptop to my quest 2. On my AC lite streaming gameplay to the laptop causes glitches because they are sharing the bandwidth where as if I stream to my tower which is hardwired then it’s not an issue.
@@ryanhamstra49 hum, this doesn't convince me, the traffic has to pass over the Router so allways over that Gigabit port.
The traffic doesn't go directly from one device to another using only the access point.
@@pbrigham even if you are doing file sharing?
What app use on android to test ?
WiFiman
Should have done the speed test on LAN, not use internet speed test.
you mixed up your up and down speeds in your same room test.
Even aside from these products I'd love to have your speed. 200 is probably closer to $90/month, 1gbps $200/month, no other competitors...a real shame. I do want to get a Pro instead of using my old Asus AC68U
200 a month is a bit steep for 1 Gb down and up. I want to upgrade to 1Gb up and down at some point.
Are you testing AP speed on very limited internet connectivity? Common... useless test for everyone who needs transfer in lan where is 1/1 gbps...
Not very useful. To be consistent you should have used iperf rather than some Internet speed test.