Radar Detector Arrow Testing with Speed Signs
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Testing a bunch of radar detectors' arrows, I learned a lot, including why speed signs aren't the best to test against, haha.
Follow-up video: • Radar Detector Tint Te...
List of Radar Detectors Tested:
Valentine 1 Gen 1: bit.ly/ValentineOne
Valentine 1 Gen 2: bit.ly/2xsMjnN
Uniden R7: geni.us/UnidenR7
Cobra DualPro 360: geni.us/DualPro360
Escort Max 360: geni.us/Max360
Escort Max 360c: geni.us/Max360c
Escort Redline 360c: geni.us/Redline360c
Discussion on RDF: www.rdforum.org/threads/107911/
0:00 Intro
0:34 Test Overview
2:15 Valentine 1 Gen 1
3:59 Valentine 1 Gen 2
5:46 Uniden R7
7:17 Cobra DualPro 360
8:31 Escort Max 360
10:29 Escort Max 360c
11:43 Escort Redline 360c
13:00 Speed Signs vs. Police Radar Guns
13:52 Wrap-up
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The testing for this video looks like it was a lot of work, thanks!
I`m using the R7 in Israel, we have Ka & Laser only here. at the first 4 hours driving I thought my detector is broken, zero alerts configured under wide scan, nothing. and then in an empty highway an alert from the back for 2mins. and suddenly a moving BEE3 behind.. following me.. never had a single false alert from this one. I LOVE IT!
🌹#rajamanilacricketlover🙏
Sometimes life is like a box of detectors...
For europe autovelox there is a valid product ?
Good comparison. This will help many people understand their detector.
My original v 1 saw speed sign which is great cops start sitting behind it which would show 2 bogeys which saved me but other people were not so lucky with just a basic radar detector v1 and v1 gen 2 for the win
The “old” V1 seems to hold its own.....
I'm still holding onto mine also. Might spring for a G2 this year or two.
I love the look of the old one too.
@@justintime753 with double sweeps on Ka-band via JBV1 our V1G1 was going bonkers on distant Ka from behind.
It's funny you made this video because in the past few months they recently installed speed signs like these and I experienced the exact same thing with the V one Gen 2 in all bogeys mode. Some days the V1 will alert to the sign and other days It would not.
I also noticed the rear arrow never lit up when I passed the speed sign. I was thinking it has something to do with very low-power radar. I wanted to upload some dashcam videos of my situation but looks like I don't have to do that now.
Oh yeah V1 forever. ! That second bogey alert has always been awesome.
Great stuff Big A!! Thanks for thinking outside the box.
R7 still has the nicest screen. lol
Been watching your CHANNEL for 6 months I think you are doing a fabulous job
Great idea for a vid vortex! Thorough and complete comparison, as always. Even though your results were a little varied, I'm glad you did this video in the suburbs (vs farm fields) to provide a more real world results. The Ka comparison was really nice to see also. Thanks for the content, keep it coming!
Thanks a lot for the video. You're really helping me figure out which detector is best for me (V2)!
I’ve found mounting that my arrow detectors right below the rear view mirror helps them transition better from front to back because of the more centered view out the rear window. This location was actually recommended in my older gen1 V1’s manual and I’ve continued to do the same with my R7. When mounted too low, the seats start to block rear signals, when too high, the roof does.
Hey, i have an R3 it works great for me in Alberta, the one thing i always thought it was better to mount a radar up by the rearview mirror. Less interference from your engine electronics.? The higher it is the sooner you pick up radar's, hills,etc.. The R3 seems to work great for me, although i still have have to figure out how to update it. And I've had it for about 3-4 years now. My main use is on the highway. Thanks for keeping us updated.
What I get from this is that there are so many variables that make up the performance good/bad of a detector. First you have to start off with a good detector. Any of these qualify. Second you have to drive many miles to learn what alerts you can "tune out" versus one's that really get your attention. There are just so many environmental factors and each detector is different, even within a specific model.
Good job, dude! You are as scientific and thorough as @ProjectFarm when it comes to testing products!
Great video as always Vortex!
Great video!!!! Still in Love with my R7 🥰
And this is the review I’ve been waiting for!
I have a Max 360 and have noticed slight changes when speed signs are marked on the unit. The GPS alerts when near but as the sign operates on a different band, the detector didn't see a true threat. The auto learn works quite well and it has been helpful on highways in New York
Amazing content as always! I randomly came across one of your videos about 2 months ago and since i dont miss any of your videos😅😅 thanks to you i bought myself a Escort Max 360 and a Uniden R7. Love both. Max360 for daily and R7 for long highway drives. Amazing work again! #SeattleGang💪🏼
That speed sign definitely switched to MRCD when it saw you running a V1. 🤣 Glad you didn't scrap all of this content!
Interesting test. Thank you!
Great work. Glad you didn't throw out the videos!!
Excellent video as usual!!
Good video. I've noticed the arrows speed of change on my Gen2 are definitely not as quick as they were on my latest updated Gen1. They're reliable but just not as quick to turn.
The speed sign radar dilemma I've experienced twice where the Gen2 didn't even pick it up, which really perplexed me I must say.
Amazing detail!
For the R7, if uniden is listening, I think a few software tweaks can easily get the R7 closer to what V1 and the higher end escorts are doing. By increasing hold signal hold time by a few seconds, allowing the option for displaying number of threats in large font instead of the individual threat details, adjusting the new bogey alert, and rebalancing the front to back reporting, all of these tweaks can work together to provide a more refined experience. Not a super high priority for me relative to getting automatic lockouts incorporated but well within a firmware update’s ability to address.
Good review. Thank you.
Nice video that was awesome, I think I am going to get the redline 360
Just ordered the r7, I think that is the best for your buck.
G1 did well. But the G2 did great too... With the extra features. I'm glad I have the V1G2
In my experience the Max 360 MkII Arrow performance is great! Current FW as of April 2024, 1.4.
So I have a random question for you, I just got the uniden r7 with the mute button hardwire kit. Do you have a install video for this button or any advice on how or where to wire this button too? Thank you
Good Stuff! The front and back arrows to me are more important than the side arrows for the peace of mind. Nice to know so Im not looking all over LOL
Great information
Is the V1 gen 1 still a good detector. I bought it years ago and wondering if I should by a new detector ?
Great video!!
Great comparison, I think V1G2 and Max 360 were the best on this test.
The Cobra did alright too 😏.
Great video!!! I live very close to the speed signs you were testing on sunset road 🤣🤙
Small world! haha
@@VortexRadar got any used radar detectors you’d sell me? 🤣🤣🤣
there a resource to learn frequencies and what each are? thanks
I'm using the R1 but I've found it rather helpful when it announces the frequencies it has detected. Two different frequencies = probably two bogeys.
thanks nice vid thorough
I wonder how different the frequencies are on the sign radar vs the gun🤔
Meanwhile in the house on the right. "Honey, that weird car has just slowly driven by for the 10th time, call the police."
I just really like the old design of the valentine one. It really stands out from all other radar detectors. I'm sad to see it loose its classic facade.
Absolutely! I hate the fact that one of the considerations for change was people were unable to read a manual and understand what the small lever was for on the multi-function knob. I loved the Gen 1 design and I'm not fond of the new Gen 2 design and phone requirements at all. I just recently bought the Uniden R7 to replace it. Time will tell but I like it so far.
I've always wanted to see how my V1 Gen 2 compares to other detectors! Mine is definitely a little delayed haha
Would this test depend on who many vehicles were behind you that made some test different than others you did?? Maybe once you were alone vs a few cars behind you on the next.
In the US especially in the big city's no PD's use K/X band anymore.. K/A POP K/A I/O is the go too and laser. So my radar only runs those modes, Makes driving with radar detector much more quiet .. IF the police are running laser people will report on Waze giving ample time to adjust.. I couldn't justify spending an extra $200 to get a Redline 360 just for KA band so i went with Uniden R7 on amazon for $435.97 very happy.
Whats your thought on the V1G2 in your test. Was K verifier still on in All Bogie mode? Is it still trying to filter the speed sign?
Yep, KV on. I always use that because it's so necessary for BSM filtering. :)
Does it block the signal or just show you that there is a radar in front of you >?
It is possible that due to the increased sensitivity the R7 and Redline 360 may be be detecting reflection which is making it think it passing the radar site. Since we know that it is a balance between the front and rear antennas, it could explain the early side notification. Just thinking out loud. Either way, I think it was close enough not to be an issue because at that point you would hope the driver has slowed down to an ideal speed. Be interested to see if the R7 is affected when the auto lockout firmware comes out...one day!
I think with the R7 it's alerting early so you have time to see where the cop is hiding rather it being two side arrows as you pass them.
V1 Gen 2 upgrades are back. Thinking about an upgrade of my very old and tired V1.
The Gen2 is a very nice upgrade if you’re considering it. :)
Awesome video Vortex. Do you plan on doing any more tests with these detectors against radar guns?
I’m thinking that next time I do a long range red barn test or something, I can pass by the radar car and build in an arrow test too. Two-in-one. :)
I’d also like to do a custom installed detector test like this too.
@@VortexRadar I look forward to it (if you actually get around to doing it). And don't forget to bring the DP360 😉 (I know it's on loan).
I purchased the Max360. but I have noticed that it will NOT let me know when a Cop car is driving towards me and one Cop made a U turn and got me for speeding. Is there a setting to fix this? Or is there another radar that I should look in to and return the Max 360 ?
Hey Vortex, I also drove by today a speed sign in all bogey mode on the V1G2 and nothing came up. You think it could be with the firmware?
Mine does the same. Remember, we don't want to be alerted to speed signs. V1 either filters it out with the K-verifier or, also very common, the speed sign is off frequency (usually low).
@@docw3202 Appreciate the reply, that makes sense to me! I was concerned for a moment but I figured it was low on the band list.
@@Nhlhitz23 I went by another one today to which my V1G2 didn't alert. There is a way to turn K-verifier off and see if you can pick it up. If it does, it's filtering. If not, it might be too low or any one of a number of reasons. But, despite what people believe, most jurisdictions require speed enforcement equipment to be tested daily and certified by the manufacturer to be accurate and operating within spec for traffic radar. Most of these would not pass that.
I encountered a speed sign in TN that saw me but my V1G2 didn't see it. Any idea why?
Those are out of usual radar range used by police so the V1 won't pick them up. I get that occasionally also.
Can you do reviews on cobra dual pro 360 please???
Was the old v1 in big L mode as well?
It was in C mode. I didn't test any of the logic modes in the old V1.
The thing i notice with my Max 360 and signs that it flips quicker than the test but I mirror mount mine so it has a clearer back window shot.
I also am up higher in an Explorer too.
I am disappointed to see the Redline not ID 2nd bogey at that price point. Something Escort needs to fix.
Would this test be indicative of how they would work on MRCD or MRCT if capable?
I don’t think so, no
Is this with the newest update
They must have updated because on my v1g2 yesterday I passed a cop sitting on the side (after watching this video) in L mode the exact moment I passed him the side arrows came on, and as soon as I was past him it went to rear.
V1 FTW...again!
When it comes to R7 I've noticed that as well when passing a legit KA source from upcoming direction. Arrows would flip sideways before I even reach the threat.
Thanks for the data point, especially against a police radar gun. :)
@@VortexRadar Anytime Vortex, thanks for taking time from being a busy dad to make that video 🙂
@@VortexRadar Vortex just to add, that weird scenario only happens to KA signal. K switches immediately.
I think that’s due to reflections. Maybe a firmware update can slightly reduce (or delay) the rear antenna sensitivity to prioritize the front antenna. So meaning, if it detects a front signal and then the rear picks it up as well, put a 2-3 second delay from when the rear signal actually visually alerts.
Testing them from long distance on HWYS would be good.I can tell you my old 9500ix has better range then a newer cheaper detector that is under 200 dollars.I plan on getting the 360--the basic one--I just need something accurate on HWY trips and I know the little ins and outs false alerts etc on escort products.But honestly with technology--if you simply need one for mostly HWY use--even a newer cheaper detector will work.On the other hand if you dip into the triple digits--like I do on trips when the HWY is clear--then investing in a high end detector is a must--that second or 2 notice when you are going 105mph can not only save you a ticket--but a trip to jail if you get an overzealous cop.I have a you tube channel and test my cars out I own at hi speeds to show performance and although I am safe and few cars are around--going over 100 could land you on prime time on cops--here is my Turbo CX-30--passport 9500ix and i would never do this without a radar detector.czcams.com/video/Tnityn1k9qE/video.html
I just bought my redline 360c from best buy and I hope this is not a hardware issue but whenever i approach a speed sign sometimes the detector will be late to detect and then all the sudden scream almost at the last second. My r3 would ramp up normally but sometimes my redline isn’t ramping up correctly. Do you have any thoughts ?
i did just update to 1.6
A number of people have reported that behavior with various Escort detectors.
@@VortexRadar will that effect be the same against police radar
I just purchased my Escort Redline 360c today from Best Buy online. I just could not wait on Radenso (Theia) especially because they stopped making videos. I guess I will also purchase Radenso (Theia) after @Vortex Radar (test) one but I would say these speed signs will always be tricky because I think most of the testing is done against radar guns K, KA bands. Just a thought just manually block out speed signs and train your detector and you should be fine. I don't think it's a hardware issue and I have owned the Escort Max 360, MAX 360C the V1 gen 1 and have experienced your speed sign issue.
Hello which one you recommend to Europe ( Netherlands, Holland )
Redline 360 and Genova max anti rdd for Nederland
Did you update your max360c before doing the test?
Yep, every detector was running the latest firmware and firmware versions are displayed at the start of the video when I run through the detector lineup.
Vortex find a local police station near you and you can do the same test for KA band
I'm pretty sure he has his own KA band radars, he's going to be running tests on those soon too.
@@selmankocak2094 Radar guns
czcams.com/video/b6ADZzHAR2M/video.html
I appreciate how you took time to make this video, I have mixed feelings about the fact that $600 to buy one of this beeping boxes cost, I mean it is a different story if you test them in a real life situation and not just with a speed sign with the signal that triggers the radar, again it is great that you did the video and all but how many troopers sit behind a overpass or around the block? It is a different story too if you are driving highway and the city.
If you’d like to see other test scenarios and tests against pole radar guns, I’ve done countless of those style tests over the years.
@@VortexRadar yeah I'm checking out your channel now and hope to find what I'm looking for, I understand that is hard to do what you do so thanks again.
Great video, loving my R7 once I figured out how to all but shut up the K band (have it muted
I have driven all over Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Colorado, Arizona and Southern California. I have NEVER seen K band be anything other than department stores and those current speed signs. I have seen laser once in a year and never x. I’ve completely disabled k band because of the stupid cruise control radar on highways
@iPac9mm Because it's slightly thicker? I'mma hit you with a hell nah, at least has an OLED with proper modern graphics, not some 7 segment display with a bunch of single color LEDs straight out of the 90s. Hard to glance K vs Ka on a V1 I imagine.
@@1rstTry Yea 99.9% of the time K is bs like you said. I guess the only time it *may* be legit is driving thru a small "ticket city" where they have really outdated equipment. Most K falses are super weak and/or don't ramp traditionally anyways, so that's a clue. I considered disabling it, but muting it and tuning it super low is doing me fine for now. Drive mostly in Texas.
I am fairly new to detectors...I just purchased a C8 Corvette so figured it was time to invest in a detector. I am pretty much convinced the Max 360 is the way to go. My question is...I know the difference between the 360 and the 360C is wifi, but, what does wifi do for me...is it a necessary thing to have or is the 360 good enough for my needs?
Let me know how you feel about this. I am cashed out after this auto purchase for a bit so not wanting to break the bank so to speak but I don't want anything cheap quality-wise either. I want the best for my higher dollar value. As I stated, I am thinking of going with one of the Max 360 models...seems like they are top-shelf items, so...
If you don’t have wifi in your car, get the original 360. geni.us/Max360 The updates are done via your computer instead of over the air. The cloud stuff also works with the phone app instead of WiFi too. It’s a nice way to save a little cash if you want a Max series detector.
Any idea or inside information as to when you’ll get to test Radenso’s Theia $1,000 radar detector?? They’ve been pretty tight lipped about any real new information as of late and quit posting regular update videos on CZcams!! I really hope they send you the finished product to test. Great video 👏
They’re gonna send me one to test, but I don’t know when.
@@VortexRadar Awesome to hear! It’s probably going to be the worlds first most expensive windshield mounted radar detector! It comes with lots of perks though to, like a 5 year warranty on the display, 2 year warranty on the detector itself and a 2 year ticket free warranty as well. I trust your opinion on everything when it comes to radar detectors, so if you say it’s junk or just a gimmick and it performs poorly in your testing, I surely won’t buy into it!! Keep up the great videos sir 👍
I have the same problem with losing signal when I get close to the radar with the Cobra RAD 480i. I also have the problem that the detector reacts too late to radars, wasted money.
I have one by my house that won’t trigger my R3. Just that one sign. I even disabled all the filters
I'm at 7:14 in vid. I think you are in a radar reflecting tunnel of buildings with those speed signs, at least the first one, so the R7 is probably picking up signal from the side. I bet speed signs out on a country road would act more like your police radar out on that country road. Not really comparing apples to apples because environment is so much different.
I would like to get a k band bogey tone i the next update
Can you please explain why do i even need a K band on?
Besides the fact that K band is actively used nationwide?
@@VortexRadar i understand, but cops mostly use Ka band and for me K band is mostly other cars and automatic doors. Is K band radars still used by police?
In some areas is mostly Ka, sure, but again, it’s still used in most areas. You can always ask on the forums if you want to chat about your specific areas. Be careful disabling K band.
@@VortexRadar this is my first time purchasing a radar detector...I've been using uniden r4 for a month now and been getting k bands all over. Just upgraded to r8 so I can have the arrows actually pointing where the threat is coming from
I bought my V1 gen 1 in 02'. It has not been upgraded, and It's still protecting my wallet. It's making it hard for me to convince myself that I need a new one!
Get a Gen 2 and you will be amazed
I just want theia to come out.
Fr, radenso is the only major manufacturer who didn't release a flagship model in 2020. That's not great on their end, however the project they're working on is huge if it's successful.
@@selmankocak2094 They don't have to be first. They're producing something that's going to be the last of all the radar detectors out there. That's the point. Once we get autonomous vehicles, there's no need for speed limits or worrying about that shit anymore.
@@picklerick9578 if I had a tesla I'd set autopilot to 90 mph 🤣🤣 program the car to hit the brakes on KA band
Theia is like global warming...
@@selmankocak2094 99% of people don't have theia. Although, that is a pretty smart idea
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Can you do a video for the uk please
Sorry, I don't drive or test in the UK so I don't have a way to do something like this. However, hopefully other fellow drivers in the UK take the time to do something similar. :)
So 360C is worth spending Money????
Id like to see more KA tests rather than K. Personally.
That shouldn’t change arrow behavior which is the point of this test.
Who the hell thumbs down this??? Rocky Mountain Radar in the house?
1st!! Love your videos!
@isaac. Now....what's your point?
Do you see the Uniden R7 having a bright future with new updates, or.....are advancements becoming less progressive and a bit stale?
Your comment I see is dated, but I think in 2022 it's still one of the premium detectors to have. I'm biased of course but Uniden just recently released new hardware and firmware on the R7. Reports are favorable. The R4 looks to be a great detector too.
@@dustoff499. I have the R7 but I'm not aware of any updates in 2022. I have only heard of the new R8, which sounds like it has some nice changes as apposed to the R7.
I wonder how much gas was used in the making of this video 🤔
#rajamanilacricketlover
So in plain English which is the best detector.
This is a comparison testing video. I have many other “which detector is best” videos and articles you can check out.
Hey is there anyway I can give you some money for radar detector device having gotten ticket in two years well almost 2 years.Do you have a PayPal account
Ah that's very cool of you! Yeah sure, here ya go: www.vortexradar.com/donate/ Thank you!
@@VortexRadar Done
Those school signs and radar aren't important enough. There's plenty of warning for school zones and if you speed there you should lose your license for a year !!! It's one thing to speed on a highway but not in neighborhoods !!!
What...no Theia....
HaHa...
Okay everybody has an opinion this one is mine I noticed in the video when they would shoot them talkin about their new toy there was one person that was like yeah we're willing to give a open-source so other people can maybe help make things better or come up with better ideas and solutions and the guys that were really were writing codes did not really have a comment basically what I took away from the video is why should we do all this hard work and then just let some other radar company use our knowledge opinion
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Any knucklehead downvoting just does not understand.
Nice . Whats the best long range detector you recommend? Just got a ticket 🎟 🤪 construction zone.
Yikes, sorry to hear that! The new Redline 360c would work, but you may not need that one. www.vortexradar.com/best-radar-detectors/
Make sure you look into laser jammers too.
@@VortexRadar I'm in California Contra Costa County I'm not sure if Jammers are legal lol.