China’s BYD is Catching up to Tesla
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Watching this yesterday (from Brazil) and I thought to myself "how the hell is BYD gonna sell electric cars in Brazil? we dont even have charging stations."
Lo and behold, I just came across a news article saying that just today BYD announced the construction of a charging station just a couple of miles from my home
What good is their spyware if no one is being monitored? Plus if the car is cheaper, who cares if it explodes or catches fire ? Sem brincadeira, há noticias sobre tudo isso, eu recomendo não confiar nessa marca.
@@KaiserAfini Tell that to Tesla who openly spying on you to avoid liabilities. So far there are no mas burning of BYD in Australia/UK like people like Serpenza want you to believe.
Called building them. Some people ffs
The company I work at has been working on ADs for BYD for 2 years now. It's everywhere on TV now
@@KaiserAfinicope
Remember when people laughed at Japanese cars in the US?
Or British two wheelers thought the Japanese entering the market won't hurt them.
@drzl so it'll make you it's slave?
Yea, but Japan had a pathway to being a more trustworthy producer of products. China is not going to be increasing transparency and reducing corruption anytime soon.
@@mrb152 your avg consumer doesn't give a fuck about that.
You don't understand historical references Bro??@@drzl
Here in Brazil Tesla hasn't done much because of their luxury positioning on our market and lack of support. BYD however is allegedly the reason we no longer have tax exemptions on imported EVs. They are stirring the market and annoying the big brands.
Easy to do when you steal tech others developed and have production subsidized by a state that indirectly controls the company and with that the software while looking at cars as surveillance platforms. It's a trojan horse.
A região Nordeste tá cheia desses BYDs. No hotel onde eu trabalho já vieram Dolphins e Seals, todos de lá
Tesla snobs every developing market. Even big markets like Brazil, Egypt and South Africa
@@jomo2483Snobs?
Yep back in the 70s and 80s American car companies were making BIG gas guzzling cars that people didn’t really need. Japanese cars came in and took over. I feel like it’s the same with Tesla and BYD
Here in Brazil, they are growing in Uber drivers with the Dolphin. They are comfortable, low taxes, and most important: they don't run on fuel, which is the main cost of driving Uber here, since our fuel prices are so high. Brazil has 1.6 million app drivers.
"Brazil has 1.6 million app drivers"
Holy fuck... that's like 1% of the whole population or so. Damn.
@@genghiskhan6688 yes, it's a lot of people
Cold fusion should narrate everything- nature shows, docs, the news etc... perfect voice and delivery for it
I’ve watched his videos for a whole ass decade and that voice is half the reason
wonderful VO for sure
Check out Atomic Shrimp.
Yup agreed.
He should diversify his content.
I agree, but he is spreading himself a little bit thin. As with many CZcamsrs, he can’t possibly know as much as he talks about. Still he does a good job. I enjoy it but I don’t take it too seriously
Here in brazil they bought a closed Ford factory, supposed to start operations in mid-late 2024.
And in Brazilians car market they probably will push all the prices down.
they are funded by the country leader.. it is why its cheaper(at first)
its ok when anglo countries do that but when china does its a huge no no @@dertythegrower
@@dertythegrower nobody could do better than Chinese in cost down.
I hope so. Tesla vehicles are literally for millionaires in Brazil.
@@dertythegrower so?
Here in SEAsia they are gaining a lot of popularity. Literally from one month where I didn't see any of those BYD cars to the next where I saw then quite often until now where I see those cars every day multiple times.
CCP bot
@@wildbeast3106 applying your logic, that make you, USA bot?
same here in the Netherlands. one day they just popped up. many Tesla’s too
Hopefully they will come to Europe!
@@Mememeep er i think youll find the Netherlands is in Europe
Here in Brazil BYD is dominating! The Dolphin is everywhere, being priced cheaper than many SUVs available on the market. There are reports of people using them at Uber with almost 100.000 kilometers without problems. GWM is also growing up over here, and Volkswagen is left behind offering zero hybrid cars. Do I think BYD will take over? I think it already took!
Uber sucks, bus transportation which is a mess all around the world is probably a much better option
@@rogantwort7374 why? Have you already tried it? I did and it wasn't a bad experience, actually I didn't notice it was electric
@@deltakid0 Uber sucks? Bus? I want to try what you are using. LOL!
@@deltakid0ain't nobody trying to be packed into bus with sweaty and smelly dudes.
@@weiyang88 you guys are right, choosing between Uber and Bus is like choosing between Cancer and AIDS
All those comments before mine were sent seconds into the video while the video only was shared 8 minutes age to me and is 21 minutes long. The bias is real
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Nope, CCP bots.
There's a recent comment by the channel "x" that has 6M subscribers yet it only has 3 poor videos not even 13 days old.
Alot of ccp bots holy shiiit
Bro speed x2
Who cares it's not like he's running for president...
As an Australian motor mechanic, I think that BYD will do well here if/when they have a good warranty record and support from the factory.
Most current legacy ICE vehicle companies are becoming very difficult to extract warranty claims out of, the most notable exceptions being Hyundai and Kia who are easy to deal with.
The BYD pricing is compelling, as long as the long perceived 'poor Chinese quality' becomes a thing of the past, they'll grow here.
There used to be a label called “made in Korea” for Deawoo and Hyundai. Now it’s a thing of the past.
Australia is basically a Chinese satellite state. The new Hong Kong
If your ICE cars are hard how about the EVs then 😂😂😂
Australia can’t afford to finance President Xi’s predatory takeover of the global automotive industry. Boycott anything that comes out of China except for t-shirts and underwear. Support Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan and Malaysia first.
Keep that CCP BS outta the states. Everything they send here ravages the land and people by design.
I started to see BYD buses in South Korea too.. BYD is growing faster than any other EV brands.
I was a material planner for a leading electric agri mfg in 2021 and we were heavily considering their blade battery designs. Safety being the biggest pro. Would have been a good move but then you become entirely dependent and that wasn't ideal for us.
Great vid. Thanks!
Got a BYD Atto 3, 5 months ago. My first EV after upgrading from a Hyundai I10. Very satisfied so far. Absolutely no issues so far and it more or less drives itself on the highway with the adaptive speed control
RIP lol. J/K, be safe!
@@the_derpler source ??? Proof ???
Kindly share the ncap rating. Let's have fun on
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Your NCAP rating does not exist if it is being paid and bypasses correct procedures even from the origin country itself. gtfo.
@@ze-ph9774 not MINE ncap ratings. They are done by insurance companies. Now try again
And why don't u prove it . Where are ncap paid ??
Where the procedures were bypassed ?.
Kindly show sources and proof . I ll wait
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Why is your name "Jack Smith" when you're clearly Chinese?
Keys to success:
1. First Copy
2. Then Learn
3. Lastly Innovate
Average westerner thinks you have to start with innovating if you're a Chinese.
4. Comment on youtube
That speed Chinese, if you from developed country just jump from step 2
ok...name the last "chinese innovation", I will wait don't worry
All things in and from China are either copied or stolen. They don't innovate because that costs money
The rise of BYD reminds me of Hyundai automotive in the 1980s. A very similar story arc. On a related note, it would be interesting for you to look into Geely. Geely owns the Volvo and Lotus car brands as well as having major relationships with Daimler and Renault. Its business strategy is very different from BYD, but it shares the low-cost Chinese manufacturing base and deep history in both ICE and electric vehicles. BYD's advantage selling into North America and Europe is that is already owns brands with a rich history and positive customer image. Volvo-BYD is rolling out an all-electric lineup over the next few years. Whether it will go after the $30,000 and under market in the US is unknown.
I already drive a Lynk & Co 01, another Chinese car (Volvo collaboration). The car is amazing value for the price.
I'd get another Chinese car in a heartbeat.
I don't get the distrust by some people. China makes great products, including cars.
I'm not a nationalist, I'm a consumer.
I just want the best value my money can buy.
If European or US manufacturers want me to buy their cars, they need to step up their game, and give me a good reason to do so.
Imo Geely does more things right than BYD
I mostly changed my mindset and think like you but "im not a nationalist, im a consumer" only goes so far. when everybody starts buying chinese then no matter if you are american or german (like me) you will see it in the economy much more than people cry about biden's impact XD but you are still right mostly, you can or want only to spend so much on a car and a lot of western manufacturers dont seem to understand that if the prices dont get more competetive soon then people will be forced to buy chinese and then once the cat is out of the bag that made in china doesnt equal shit they will find themselves in a bad spot because they wont be able to compete with chinese manufacturing prices.
@@MaticTheProto Out of all Chinese car brands in my country, I trusted Geely more than the others, quality wise. Pricing can compete with others but the quality is 1 notch above.
@@Usersf134ssk yup. They made the right choice buying volvo and keeping the talent
4:17 That is wrong. The first European BYD factory is already being built in Hungary right now.
szeged
He rushes too much to make his videos these days, just like about everyone else on CZcams. No matter what you see here you can be sure there are lots of errors and misinformation. Not everything is wrong here, there’s a lot of good information also but it’s hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.
It’s one thing to say BYD sells more cars than Tesla, it’s another thing to see that Tesla sales in dollars per year smashes BYD. Confusion says nothing about that, and also says nothing about profits. A lot is left out here!
Watch these videos for Entertainment not for comprehensive information anymore. They are just rushed and junkie. Not bad but junkie
Tesla's sales in dollars don't matter. They are badly made cars, and BYD is growing far faster than Tesla is.
The fact is many more people will be driving Chinese EVs soon. @@steveperreira5850
He said “aims to start producing electric cars by 2025”, not the factory.
Source
18:00 although yes the seal is heavily relying on touchscreen but its has a physical gear selector compared to the refreshed tesla Model 3
In South Africa, electric vehicles come with a hefty price tag, making them unaffordable for many. Those committed to reducing vehicle emissions should closely examine BYD's competitive market pricing.
You'd think with the way our government flirts with China we'd be having loads more Chinese EV's on the road.
I doubt that South Africa EV would be a thing with your rolling blackouts
Reduce vehicle emits a scam😊
>> hose committed to reducing vehicle emissions should closely examine BYD's competitive market pricing.
Don’t you guys have power out wages a lot? If so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to use one there
Birkshire Hathaway cashed out because BYD's stock growth peaked. That capital can see greater gains from smaller upstarts.
Oh it peaked? Nice to hear that you can see into the future
Seems like you pulled it out of your imagination--unless you're an insider of BH.
I bought an MG4 (SAIC) and no complaints so far.
The memories of buying a Daewoo as my first car in the 90s keep ringing in my head but these feel different.
>> I bought an MG4 (SAIC) and no complaints so far.
Imo mg4 will be big in Europe
@@weird-guy : MG is already #5 in EV sales in the EU.
@@tooltalk byd is no 1
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Number 1 in starting fires. Bwahah
Just watched your latest missiv. I've driven a Tesla model S (five years) and although i was happy with it, the build quality and the road noise in the cabin was not the best. I switched to a Nissan Ariya which is a better build but the software is not where it should be and i had a dead traction battery at 20k which was replaced under warranty(it took nissan three months to sort out out). Given the size of BYD and what I've learnt in this video i would be prepared to run one. I am convinced they would as good of not better than anything I've had or drive now.
Road noise on Teslas has been vastly improved in the last 2 years.
I own a BYD Tesla Model Y Standard Range and it has the greatest battery of any EV I could imagine. The charging curve is just the same and not depending on state of charge. You can plug in with 90 % and get 175 kW of charging. It’s nuts!
I was in Mexico City less than a month ago, and was absolutely stunned by how commonplace these Chinese TVs are there. They really are having a huge impact in a short time.
TV-> EV.
@@klauszinser Don’t worry, to some people, TVs are EVs. No wonder the only infinite thing in the universe is human ignorance.
@@dkblack1289Well, they are both kinda like appliances. 🤷. EVs like personal electronics ie smartphones will depreciate much faster than an ICE counterpart. A 5-8 year old EV will feel ancient. Savagegeese made multiple videos about the subject.
Many OEM companies make good appliances and sell them at a cheaper price than the actual brand that contract them. Many of those big name brands are just that, a brand that contract the big OEM companies and set high or low quality standards based on what they are willing to pay.
Tbh most tv’s are Chinese now 😂
I work for a Company that has some products manufactured in China and as long as you have QA people in China the products are more realiable than products we have manufactured in Europe. I'd be happy to buy a BYD once they gey the software upgrade for their lane assist right
Agreed
Same experience, I travel to China frequently to coordinate with local factories, the fact is the quality of the products we imported to US can't compare with what they made for their local markets. They can make top quality products these days, but we can't afford those anymore, the shipping cost, tariffs, and Americans are not willing to pay more either.
@@tedhansolo not really . People pay more for chinese products
@@user-xp7nk9dw8d Really? I feel like more people are buying from TEMU and Shein. I talked with my Chinese friends, and they were surprised that Americans are buying those craps, while those better-quality brands never arrived in US.
I am from Brazil, here a see a lot of BYDs on the streets daily. But here they are very expensive, maybe due to the import taxes .... In general cars are very expensive here anyway, but EVs are even more costly. That being said, for those that can afford, BYD is the cheapest one.
I love your videos! Thanks for making them!
I've been following ColdFusionTV for more than 4 years, first time to know he is in Australia. 😂
How? He has an accent.
He lives over in WA 🎉
It's in the channels bio.
Same, I would've staked my life on it that he was from the UK 😂
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley why UK? Doesn't make much sense to me.
Is anyone old enough to remember when Great Wall Motors 1st entered Australia? Their Utes were, let's say, less than great. But within 12 months they had improved quality, interior design and safety. MG have done the same. I've looked at a number of BYD cars that I've seen parked in the local shops, etc. And I have to say that I'm tempted to try one out.
Buying a Chinese car is a treason to your country and to the Earth as a whole. Never buy one.
Great Walls are still rubbish, Wouldn't go near one.
Yep I sure do, and no one I know would touch one and I don't see many on the aussie roads any more
I also remember they got recalled for having asbestos in the engine block. Will never support those clowns
@@jjsadv They are only good for paved road light use. Not as good as the likes of Triton or Ranger in off road. But they are perfectly good for situations where reliability is not a concern. Its a weird statement, but thats how a few GW friends put it, all of them are tradies. to them its the perfect throw away car for 3-4 years while they save up for a hilux, if its not for me having bought a triton last year, i would have gotten a GW now. it feels like a modern car with all the bells and whistles but doesnt break the bank.
Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
This was one of your vintage articles, i really enjoyed this one bro, well done
Holy shit 4.7million subscribers. I remember subscribing when you were less than 8k. You definitely deserve it bro good job
ColdFusion using monument valley original game soundtrack for the background music is not on my bingo list, bravo 👏
starting from 12:46
Fucking amazing soundtrack I’m glad others know about it too
Nice! Could not find the track at 17:51 on that soundtrack though.
In 🇸🇬 Singapore super expensive car market, BYD sold 50% more than Tesla in 2023 .
So is in Malaysia too.
How much do both cars sell for in Singapore? Including the high import tax.
I'd love to know about the battery charging speed and, most importantly availability of places where we could recharge. It is more important than range or esthetics in my opinion
If the "long range" Seagull was available for the price of the Kia Rio (< $17k) in the US, it could find a lot of buyers as commuter cars.
The dual motor Song L would be right up my alley if it were available in the US for competitive prices.
Note, the 251 miles for the Seagull is CLTC, which averages about 35% higher than EPA range estimates. So this would be ~162 miles EPA rated.
I think if ANY ev found itself in the us market for 17k it would sell well. EVs are amazingly overpriced here
Any imported EV with that price will be punished by the US according anti dumping laws😂
Although China allows Tesla to be sold in China, the United States will never allow Chinese electric cars to be sold in the United States. . Because the United States is a local protectionist country
A few days ago, BYD announced that the price of its "Qin" is 79,800 yuan, about 11,500 US dollars. The Qin is a compact sedan, similar to the model 3, and such a car will never appear in the United States.
Even London has BYD buses, first one arrived in 2015
Just the batteries, the bus itself is made by Alexander Dennis.
Chassis and drive train are from BYD as well@@fubar12345
Are they the ones that keep going up in flames?😅
Only the best for poor people with crooked teeth!
And the battery is the most important part of an ev@@fubar12345
So interesting that this came out now - I noticed a BYD for the first time in the UK last week. Since then I've heard multiple mentions of them. Great video, thanks.
Thanks for another, highly informative, video! Living in both Boston and Singapore (where I see BYD everywhere), I'm now wishing I had invested in them vs. Fisker a few years ago. Perhaps they should partner with Fisker, for a co-designed vehicle, to allow them entry into the US marketplace. Win-win!
It’s everywhere in the middle east!
Is that why the Middle East is always on fire?
@@manseimark i don’t think so! Are you okay bro ?
It really is
what country?
@@alexiocatan5602 almost everywhere actually. Egypt already have their BYD Seagull, Atto 3 is the best seller in Israel.
enjoyed this video from start to end, great doc
Um planing to get seal..
love BYD
I love my BYD Atto 3. It is the best car I have owned. Cheers from Australia.
I felt like I blink and then BYD and other Chinese ev filled the road of Thailand. Also charging station suddenly cover the entire country.
First time I’m back in Thailand in a couple years, it’s insane how many Byd cars I see on the road
what charging stations are they using? company-made?
U can use any
They are very popular here in Thailand. I also dusted one of their fastest models, the dual motor BYD Seal in my M3 V8 swapped BMW E30 on the highway in Bangkok. So go build that China! German V8 power! Lol
I wasnt aware of this.
Great video, as usual! The quality of this channel is prestime tier 🙃
The most important factors - residual value and running cost - will proof the sustainability of (Chinese) EVs over periods of 5 to 10 years. With Tesla dropping sales prices reduces the 2nd hand value and increases write-off for owners, making it harder to buy a new car. EVs must proof to be low on running cost and affordable. A manufacturer shake-out is inevitable.
in that sense for BYD both owning the cars and the manufacturing for the batteries that they need. They could factor that in.
As the biggest sustainability point would be to make it economically viable to swap out that battery pack.
Of the movable parts you might need to replace the wheels, breaks, tires. Like some might only need replacement every 10 years (a car lives about 20/30 years).
For a company like BYD it would also mean that they can continu making money on the cars for replacing that battery pack. other companies could also tap in to that marked if they also want to do that on the EU marked. then you get even mor competition on both the cars and the batteries for them.
The cheapest BYD car I could find on their Australian site is the Dolphin, which starts at $AU 38,890.
That's a long way from "as little as ten thousand dollars."
He was talking about pricing in China, and it was in USD.
Well the cheapest ev in the world is the BYD seagull for 10k and they sell alot of them
@@tesos2866probability this car can't meet the safety standards at a lot of countries.
Your country's draconian n exorbitant import duties are to blame, not BYD.
It is similar to Indians crying that Harley Davidson bikes are very expensive, without knowing the fact that Indian government inposes almost 240-300% import tariffs! This forced Harley to move out of India and halt production! They now sell it through local dealers
@@wensiangfongthey meet Europe NCAP. That’s very high standard. It’s a global standard.
What a lovely episode as always. You should try to make a little more videos about financial frauds, there are a lot of good examples such as the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, oh the 1970s Lockheed bribery scandal, the Arthur Andersen bankruptcy, Nortel, Parmalat, Petrobas, the FIFA scandal.
Well, nicely written, but full of lies and misrepresentations. Berkshire-Hathaway now owns maybe 3% of the company stock, not 10%. The got rid of most of that junk paper in last 5 months... BYD cars - especially in China - are seeing a huge increase in accidents due to faulty components or software, which is the main driver of the fall in sales (in other words: BYD cars are killing their owners in China at an astonishing rate, so people do not buy them, especially since they're comparable in pricing with Tesla).
Tesla is being targeted by chinese government with severe restrictions, decreasing their sale artificially (main reason: Teslas are driving espionage tool)...
So, RIvian is in huge financial hole, Polestar has just been left to die by it's CHINESE owners and Lucid... well, Lucid is a banner for EV failure. GM, VW and PSA all announced reducing/discontinuing EV production and EU just announced investigation into illegal practices by BYD/CCP/PRC (which seem to be so intertwined to be indistinguishable), so 2024 will be the last year for most of the china's REMAINING (as 30+ manufacturers in China closed in 2023) EV industry. BYD with it's poor quality will not survive.
As for numbers: in 2023 BYD sold 1.575M cars (which is an inflated number, because they are selling their cars to dealers, who are left out-of-pocket if car goes unsold), while Tesla sold - AND DID IT DIRECTLY TO CONSUMER, SO THEIR NUMBER IS VERIFIABLY ACCURATE - 1.81 million cars...
@@gmaacentralfounder wait...Rivian is still out there?
@@gmaacentralfounderif you actually watched the whole video, he mentions berkshire selling 60% of their shares…
@@stanleychen2584 that is very true. But the point of misleading viewers still stands as the car sales of BYD aren't taken with a grain of salt. If you're interested in why, just watch these wonderful EVs rotting in a Field:
czcams.com/video/1SEfwoqKRU8/video.htmlsi=JSswleq7eXerUAzs
You never disappoint Friend. Quality presentation.
Very good doc on Ev's. Thanks for posting
Im holding out on buying a car because of the seagull 😅 for 10k its exactly what i need that is low maintenance and cheap insurance.
In my part of the world eastern eu things are getting out of hand and inflation makes it impossible to buy food let alone a car. This is what i need 👍👍
The seal is not cheaper than the Model 3. In Germany the Seal starts at 44500 Eiro vs 42990 for the Model 3. Its not even close
Byd is probably still a better car overall
Say thanks to import tariffs, EU cannot compete with China 🤡🤡
@@Gwallacec2no it ain't, check the comparison reviews.
@@marco3710 well teslas are Garbo so even if the Tesla is better any other car would be a better pick. Especially at that price point.
In my country the Cheapest tesla 3 is 39 990€, byd seal is 46 990€ but mg 4 is 29 517€
Buyers should consider not just the cost of the product but also the quality of the relationship and mindset of the product's origin countries.
Are they trying to destroy you with your hard earned money? One should ask before making a decision.
Overly relaying on one nation is a dangerous business for future generations, especially Australia.
Over reliance on touchscreens.. Tesla enters the chat.
Which is a real problem, boutons and switches are so much easier because you can feel what you are adjusting.. that being said it’s way cheaper and easily changeable. Tesla could be so much more, I believe more pressure and options are a good thing, but I also understand keeping manufacturing in house, which is definitely a good thing.
I would probably buy one if the crash test was high enough and parts were available, the second one being why I stayed away from Tesla.
It's been soooooo long since have watched a full video of yours.... This one was great 👍
Being based in Germany I am very aware and like Chinese e-cars. Especially Geely and it's babies, like Polestar, Zeekr and Lotus do not get enough attention IMHO. Thanks for this episode! Great as always!
So you own a Chinese car? QED.
I know you're probably never going to see this, but incase you do - You have a very friendly face. Most youtubers give off a "fake friendly" or corporate smiley vibe to me, but you're one of the few I see who just gives me the feeling that you're a real person.
Thanks for doing what you do, man. Cheers
Another excellent Chinese EV maker is NIO with their battery swapping technology which has taken off well in China and also Norway. Their cars are more premium than BYD.
Here in Thailand, the BYD Seal AWD Performance that I bought 3 months is cheaper than a RWD Tesla Model 3. BYD sold 8,000 EVs here in January while Tesla sold only 50. My Seal AWD Performance is a great car, the complaints about the driver assistant features like lane keep assist and speed sign recognition are not a problem here as they can be switched off and stay off. My BYD comes with bi-directional charging and I have it setup to power my house - videos on my channel for the doubters.
living the life bro
Because Tesla are expensive
More lies, December alone more than 1,000 Tesla’s sold and figures up year on year despite cost.
BYD barely makes a profit and is state subsidised.
Fields of registered cars in fields in China.
Look at all the fires in China, well documented.
Anyone can sell more cars if they are cheap, doesn’t make for success.
But hey believe what you like from the hype of the Chinese fake economy.
@@GF-mf7ml That's because they aren't made by Chinese slaves. Anything's cheap if the labor is free.
@@GF-mf7mlnot that much though seal is only $2k cheaper than tesla model 3 but what they provides are much more superior and sophisticated
As an owner of a BYD car I'm very happy.
The african kids digging for your Lithium battery are not so happy.
African kids dig for Cobalt, not lithium. BYD batteries don't use Cobalt. Get your rage straight. @@gaemover6522
@@gaemover6522 African kids dig for cobalt, not lithium. BYD batteries don't use cobalt.
@@MarceloReis1 My comment was rhetorical but nevertheless, cobalt in used as anode is all lithium-ion batteries. So excuse my ignorance of the facts whilst staying happy to fund a life of misery for those kids.
@@gaemover6522 ignorant indeed. BYD blade batteries use lithium iron phosphate technology and are cobalt free.
12:09 The man in the right corner of the camera is Eduardo Frei Ruiz Tagle, Former President from Chile (1994 - 2000) and a very important player in bringing Asian Investment and Technology to Latin America and of course, to Chile.
Dude i still remember your awesome samsung note 2 videos ❤
Fair analysis by @ColdFusion regarding BYD vs Tesla. Remember Hyundai/Kai/Samsung benefitted unfairly through the South Korean Government & private enterprise partnerships called CHAEBOLS, this gave these companies major competitive advantages for decades to now become global conglomerates.
Tesla has received various forms of US government aid & support over the years such as: 2010 loan of $465 million loan from the Department of Energy to support production of the Model S sedan. Subsidies-Tesla buyers have been eligible for federal tax credits of $7,500 per vehicle purchased to offset the cost of electric vehicles plus other State incentives such as Nevada provided over $1 billion in incentives to attract Tesla's battery factory. As an EV user my suggestion is NOT to buy an EV but rent/hire/short-lease instead as the tech is improving so fast that your new car becomes outdated every 3-months, just saying!
Very good advise. I’ll pick one up eventually, but keeping my Toyota until quality catches up.
I hope in the future gas and ev will coexist. The lack of repairability concerns me.
Battery tech is improving, but over the air updates means that you get a better and better car every year… without having to buy a new car
What most analysts didn't talk about is that Tesla itself received a lot of government subsidy, not from the US government, but from Chinese government. Tesla factory in China received a lot of help like free land from the government. But of course nobody talked about this, they prefer the narration that American companies are champion of capitalists.
BYD is entirely funded by the Chinese at the start so this is one of the dumbest insights from a comment I have heard they even committed fraud on our stock market. 😂 kinda ridiculous.
Was this the first time you showed your face on youtube Dagogo? Great vid as always!
He's done it before
So glad I saw this, and now that I'm on Nebula, I'll enjoy even more. 😍
What an awesome episode and explanation really love your work keep it up, greetings from sLOVEnia 😊❤
I've had a BYD ATTO 3 for 15 months, 100% reliable, no rattles or squeeks, better than expected in all areas and have a BYD Seal arriving this week for more performance. Previously owned a GM EV for 5years and 60,000mls problem free. Won't be buying another ICE car.
Lucky or impressive?
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Same here Atto is a great vehicle. In Australia also great value.
@@paulinejackson5861 lol ur the bot
@@paulinejackson5861 I dont take orders from the mentally challenged.
In Thailand BYD position them self not as a cheap car or affordable car company. Similar to the most China car companies, GWM, Deepal, AION. Their prices are around 3-5k usd cheaper than Tesla.
Fantastic episode; very informative.
19:50 No, Toyota is not "set on burying its head in the sand". They are taking more conservative steps, by focusing on hybrids. Personally, I like Toyota's approach.
I agree with you.
Lots of people talk down about Toyota. But if you see the other brands it makes zero sense for them to be investing so hard into EVs atm.
Here in the US only Tesla is really selling very well.
All other EVs sold at or under 40k units which is terrible.
You can see the struggle and risks legacy automakers have with EVs watching VW, Ford, GM, and the Koreans. There are still so many issues with EVs.
Plus EVs are so unaffordable and depreciate so fast as their batteries will become useless for the used car market buyer and new tech keeps making the older models obsolete. EVs are still not a viable option for most and won't be for many decades at the current pathetic rate. There is very little reason to believe EVs will get significantly more cheaper when so much that's been around for decades like homes and other cars keeps getting more expensive. EVs are loaded with all sorts of stupid gimmicks that will break eventually. So are ICE cars to be fair.
But Toyota definitely better be investing tons of money into R&D for EVs. Looking into it and being ready if it does get better might be worth it.
nah, they're too conservative. a company ran by old geezers. sooner or later they wouldn't be able to catch up and crumble.
toyota understand the impossibility of EVs at scale. they are very, very clever
@@roku_nineWith Toyota and Lexus Hybrid waiting period I doubt they will be die and crumble. how you die and crumble when your demand outpacing your production by 1-2 years ?
The first BYD product I ever saw irl was a forklift, it was a few months after a watched a review of Doug DeMuro of a BYD EV, I was like wow they even make forklifts, but then I noticed buses and the whole other line up of vehicles.
It is this competitiveness that causing the west to ressult to wars. After all, that is all the west has ever known. This time round, war will not work for them for othef countries has enough firepower to respond to Amagedonic level. Capitalism does not brook competition unless you belong to the club. I find most comments are alarmed. Why don't they build their own dreams like literally the Chinese car is openly urging.
Sounds a bit like Mitsubishi and Mercedes, building a bit of everything.
Many of the Japanese car manufacturers started out with heavy machinery. Hyundai in Korea did too.
All just millennial pipe dreams for people to dull to see the true facts. Mainly because they beleive con men like Elon, SBF, Elisabeth Holmes and of coarse Donald Trump the biggest CXXt of them all. But I guess when you have you tube who needs education.
@@julian2626...only BYD does it professionally and highly integrated.
I alreayd got a ATTO 3 and i really like it! Its my first SUV, so it feels so comfortable with its comfort suspensions instead of stiff performance suspensions of most European and Japanese cars
Here in Ecuador they're slowly arriving to the common people. We've had BYD EV taxis and busses for more than 5 year already and they work fine. The dolphin is at 27000 USD . I hope that the seagull comes soon. Though I've heard prices will drop massively by 2025 so if you're not in a hurry probably is worth waiting.
With respect to vertical integration, are in house sourcing percentages by part/item count or by value? Who gives a ctap if a common screw or bolt is insourced vice outsourced?
Just bought in some shared of byd. Looks like its going on a good pace to go up
tariffs and trade bans are not going to stop market forces in the long run.
And they are blocking the EV market from reaching the masses. In Europe all EV are super expensive right now. They just don't build affordable EV cars here, they are all high end.
Even with tariffs, the cost difference between current US EV market and the price of BYD vehicles could still potentially be a competitive business opportunity.
"Market Forces" as in heavily subsidized loss-leading industry destroying forces.
😂 fam i wont drive any vehicle made by byd. Tofu dredge isnt just for their housing. @@tomromaniuk8449
@@tomromaniuk8449There isn't a substantive cost difference
Gosh I hope they come to North America. We're getting absolutely gouged on car prices here in Canada, and there just aren't that many small, cheap cars to choose from anymore. We could use more competition.
To be fair though as a guy who owns a small cheap car...they just don't sell. I'm going based off the USA data so I assume it's even smaller for Canada.
Lots of small subcompacts have incredibly small profits. The low sales just meant there was more money elsewhere. They were in a constant decline. It's hard to justify to automakers and the people who control the purse strings to fund a segment that brings in little money and has no future growth potential in the foreseeable future.
Anyway after owning Mt Honda Fit and seeing its terrible quality and poor safety for this segment, I do not ever plan on owning a small "cheap" car ever again. I appreciate the gas mileage though.
They're already in north America
Although more like us Europeans you are still more similar to Americans in other ways, the USA I know it will not allow Chinese cars but Canada probably will allow it but remember you aren’t paying Chinese prices you will pay at least double that, China amd other poorer countries don’t have the same safety requirements making the cars cheaper to make than for North America,Europea ect then you need to add import fees, the cheapest ev in Europe is the Dacia spring for 22K but only has 200km of range,Citroen is going to launch the Citroen e-c3 for 23k€,mg4 costs 29K
飞度真的非常像垃圾，在中国被人们称之为移动易拉罐，在中国市场日本汽车已经每年都是走下坡路，未来前景堪忧@@baronvonjo1929
@@baronvonjo1929 i dont know about NA but here in germany / EU everybody drives small cars because people are more economically conscious which i think canadians are too especially when compared to the eco terrorists in the US where everybody drives a truck no matter that they havent put anything on its loading bed for the whole time they own it 😂 but then again when everybody else drives a tank you dont wanna be the one driving the normal car and getting runover by them
In malaysia BYD is dominating the EV market
One missed opportunity in the 60s was the Japanese ICE Kei trucks.
As service and delivery vans, these vehicles are massive sellers worldwide.
The electric versions of these will do well.
In Kenya electric buses are BYD also.. but tucks or lorries are diesel powered
Kenia and Africa in general shouldn‘t make itselt that dependent on China/ chinese products if it want‘s to become truly independent 👆🏻
@@iDinho__ true
They are still relying on European diesel trucks scania and Mercedes rule tracking in kenya....they should build their own
@@eldios831 we can .. the political class is the issues.. they force companies to give them equity by force
@@johnkabiu4418 I agree...Kenya is still a colony
Not knowing the brand, I decided to lease an Atto 3 in August 23 to make the jump in EVs. In all honesty, the build quality is fantastic! Previous cars I've owned have been Honda, Subaru and VW, and in all of them I had to get something fixed related to vehicle assembly. There has been nothing wrong on the BYD (touch wood). Very solid, perfect panel alignment, no rattles, everything works. The only things that I would change - the stock tyres are awful in the rain, better thermal blocking glass in windscreen, and the lane departure warning is too sensitive. Everything else is great!
Would definitely get a byd. I just need to wait for the second hand market to develop here in Australia. Would love a tesla, but they are still too expensive.
We appreciate how well you articulate your insights on this matter. Keep up the good work.
I just love this channel but this video has a bit of error:
You failed to mention that the figures from BYD are all BEV (battery electric vehicles) (even plug in hybrids etc..)
When it comes to pure EV sales, tesla sold around 1.8 million cars in 2023, and BYD sold around 500k pure BEV vehicles..
So tesla is almost 4x bigger than BYD when it comes to pure EV sales
Yes but in December 2023 BYD pure electric outsold Tesla and the trend is continuing in 2024.
@@changliu3915 tesla releases quarterly numbers, please could you provide the source?
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I'm in little old ireland and saw one being advertised in a shopping centre yesterday. It was the base model and price started at €46,000 ...
I've got to the point now where I hear Dagogo's voice I automatically trust it, he could be telling me night is day at thisnpoint and I believe it.
Great content woth integrity for years now, well done man.
Even in Cuiabá, my City (a medium size city literally in the middle of Brazil), there are a lot of BYD Cars.
There is some downside to BYD in China and that has been some bad press on their EV cars having problems with instantaneous combustion of lithium battery packs. They have also had problems with range during cold weather and early adopters of their busses and that drive on recharging pad proved to be ineffective. First hand knowledge of the last item in Chelan County Washington.
And u have proof of that ???
Bad press is nothing since toyota honda everyone has some of it
Kindly show proof
@@user-xp7nk9dw8d 7 fire EVs per day. A judge got burned inside a BYD Han unable to get out. The emergency systems failed before catastrophic failure. An OTA update caused assistance driving to crash into a van. Did you forget that chinabot?
@@ze-ph9774 ok show proof
7 fires per day means 49 fires per week
Kindly show proof ... u made alot of statements and 0 proof to back any of them
Show how many ncap testing becomes caught fire ????
How many exported cars caught fire ?
Source of the claim that 7 fires per day ?
@@ze-ph9774 ok let's see your claim
U said 7 ev fires per day . Then said a judge not 7 or 40 judges , just 1 ( no name mentioned ) who faced a burning vehicle . No case shown no further details
That's another statement with no proof
An OTA update caused vehicle to crash into a van
That's what happened to a tesla ctr in sacramento not china in 2023 oct
Source : cbs news
@@ze-ph9774wow u are really losing it badly
46 comments and 0 proof 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'd honestly love to come meet you, say hello and shake your hand for the high quality of documentaries you produce. Unfortunately too far away.
I noticed it on the Indian roads as well. Looks beautiful.
To be fair, it doesn't take much for something to look pretty on Indian roads
@alexiocatan5602 that's what your mind click on when you saw the word " india
@@alexaaa12 he's not wrong though
@@burntnougat5341 nope
Here in my small Cali city, there are BYD city buses. A few months ago, I saw my first BYD short haul truck stopped behind me at a stop light.
I really struggle to see myself as the owner of a BYD, Tesla, or any EV.
They all have so many technology and gimmicks that will go wrong and cheap minimalist interiors that they somehow convinced buyers is a premium experience to cut costs.
There is still no charging network in my part of the USA.
I will never ever be able to afford them new or used.
New is a impossibility as I and most people will simply never be able to afford them. There is no reason to think they will get cheaper as technology isnt getting cheaper. Homes, cars, appliances, everything is getting more expensive all while the quality is getting worst.
Buying a used 10k EV with a 20k battery repair bill and tons of broken gimmicks is simply not a option.
It leads into other aspects like how even ICE cars are getting so unaffordable. Cars are simply not deisgned for poor working class people anymore and like everything in life will continue to get more expensive and worse.
We really need to invest in public transportation at this rate in the US as private cars are just becoming a luxury.
Berkshire starting selling due to internal management issues and felt they were expanding too rapidly which introduces risk but they always speak highly of the company.
In brazil i think in the last 5 years ive seen 2 tesla cars and just this years ive alredy lost count of how many BYD cars ive seen
In Europe the base model 3 is 5000.- cheaper than the byd seal. with tesla's supercharger network is doesn't make any sense to buy a byd. That only goes for Europe, where the byd sells it's cars 100% more expensive than in China.
BYD Chinese sales are inflated with govt subsidies and no one can really verify a sale in China.
Besides, there is a reason Warren Buffet has sold 60% of his position, I bet he saw sth he didn't like
Let's be real, the Seal is a much nicer and more premium feeling car than the Model 3. Their AWD variants cost about the same too.
Are there tariffs on byd in Europe? If a Tesla is cheaper, I'll buy a Tesla. If a byd is half price, I'll buy a byd...
What has the supercharger network got to do with it? Haven't they been forced to open it up to everyone now?
@@pierrex3226 There's a import tariff of 9% on Chinese cars in EU
That roll on/off ship they use to import those things is rather impressive looking.
I would buy a BYD if available in the US. I am also interested in Chinese mini trucks but getting then to the US is a pain
Man, I have been following ColdFusionTV since it had 50k subscribers. My bet on its quality content never disappointed.
this channel is funded by the US government
it has dropped
@@BleepBlop-rh9lm Considering their numbers on Socialblade no it haven't
@@BleepBlop-rh9lm how