The Insane Engineering of Re-Entry

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  • @McCarnut
    @McCarnut Před 3 měsíci +2449

    It's truly incredible that the Space Shuttle even existed considering it was late 70's early 80's technology.

    • @mm-nyc
      @mm-nyc Před 3 měsíci +182

      Earlier than that. The program started in 1972 and not all of the technology was started 'from scratch'. First launch was in 1981.
      Quite an accomplishment if you think about the engineering process back then (no CAD or workflow automation tech).

    • @drtracernum20
      @drtracernum20 Před 3 měsíci +79

      More like late 60's. Alot of the engineering for the shuttle started in the late 60's and manufacturing and testing happened in the 70's with testing being finalized in 81

    • @Rkcuddles
      @Rkcuddles Před 3 měsíci +53

      We can do anything we put our minds to… just turned into airheads lately and can’t put out minds to anything

    • @BadOompaloompa79
      @BadOompaloompa79 Před 3 měsíci

      We are doing plenty. From sending probes to touch the sun to detecting ripples in the fabric of reality to flying drones on Mars. ​@@Rkcuddles

    • @JoeLaFon3
      @JoeLaFon3 Před 3 měsíci +28

      We had nuclear submarines in the 50s

  • @echoawoo7195
    @echoawoo7195 Před 3 měsíci +1555

    @8:00m Comms Blackout was actually not a thing for the STS Missions after they got a certain set of satellites up ! Comms blackout only affects Ground to Craft Direct Comms, but if you route the signal ABOVE the orbiter, then send it to it, comms blackout doesn't happen since the top half of the craft is not engulfed in a plasma bubble, only the bottom half.

    • @echoawoo7195
      @echoawoo7195 Před 3 měsíci +69

      See The Tracking and Data Relay Satellite System
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracking_and_Data_Relay_Satellite_System

    • @donothingMTIAMG
      @donothingMTIAMG Před 3 měsíci

      Professional idiot. 😂
      Simple example.
      "NASA mission control are anticipating a nervous six minutes of blackout during the peak heating phase of Crew Dragon’s return - if anything goes wrong during this time, it’s in the hands of the astronauts."

    • @donothingMTIAMG
      @donothingMTIAMG Před 3 měsíci

      You so dumb. 👍

    • @CarlosAM1
      @CarlosAM1 Před 3 měsíci +28

      Thank you

    • @donothingMTIAMG
      @donothingMTIAMG Před 3 měsíci

      @@CarlosAM1
      Not a true statement.
      But ok. 🤗

  • @mawnkey
    @mawnkey Před 3 měsíci +306

    As a kid I got an opportunity to see and touch a demonstration of the amazing heat shedding shuttle tiles were capable. They brought in a used shuttle tile, heated it to glowing hot orange with a blowtorch, then the moment they took the heat away told us "Touch it." Both times I tried touching it the thing was room temperature. Not even the slightest bit of residual warmth remained. Still blows my mind the level of materials science brought about by the shuttle program.

    • @TeKnOShEeP
      @TeKnOShEeP Před 3 měsíci +68

      The tiles are actually still extremely hot when you touch them. It's their extremely low thermal conductivity that allows you to do it safely, as they won't transfer enough energy to your skin to burn you.

    • @tgw230
      @tgw230 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TeKnOShEePsource?

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@TeKnOShEeP And after the shuttle landed they were still radiating heat for a good while just sitting there on the runway.

    • @Jimtheneals
      @Jimtheneals Před 20 dny +3

      When I was a kid, I saw a documentary on those tiles before the first flight of the shuttle, and that's what they did. They put it in some kind of furnace, it came out glowing red hot, and the dude just picked it up with his bare hands. Incredible, just doesn't begin to describe it.

    • @homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649
      @homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649 Před 20 dny

      @@Jimtheneals i wish our politicians would focus on such things. instead we have tanks that can shoot a fly at 4.5km...

  • @altaccount4697
    @altaccount4697 Před 3 měsíci +623

    The time between the Wright Flyer and the Space Shuttle was 77 years.
    It is possible for a human being to see the Wright Flyer go 250ft down a beach and watch a plane land from freaking space in one lifetime. Thats pretty incredible.

    • @davidb2206
      @davidb2206 Před 3 měsíci +50

      My grandfather lived to see it and as a child his family had no radio, no phone, no TV, and no electricity.

    • @Shadow0fd3ath24
      @Shadow0fd3ath24 Před 3 měsíci +35

      Think about the difference between an 8 year old in 1903 seeing the Wright Brothers flight and maybe not even seeing a car...and him at 45 years old seeing near 400mph p51s with 1500hp and B-29 super fortresses, and at 68 years old he couldve taken a supersonic jet across the Atlantic to visit a european country, and driven a 425hp Corvette as his daily!

    • @davidb2206
      @davidb2206 Před 3 měsíci +22

      @@Shadow0fd3ath24 My grandfather went from horses and wagons to seeing the moon landing.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 3 měsíci +18

      There were a few Civil War vets at WWII victory parades. Those guys went from muzzle loaded muskets to jet fighter and nuclear weapons in their lifetimes.

    • @altaccount4697
      @altaccount4697 Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@RCAvhstape there's a picture of an alleged Civil War vet standing next to an F-100 Super Sabre, a supersonic jet fighter with air-to-air missiles.

  • @realgoose
    @realgoose Před 3 měsíci +608

    20:04 When I was in 5th grade my grandpa, who was a retired Air Force pilot, flew me from CA to FL to attend Space Camp. As we were somewhere over AZ my grandpa brought me up front and told me to listen to the controller. We were being told to move over. He had me go look out one of the windows. At first I didn’t see anything interesting as we were above the clouds. Then all of a sudden the Space Shuttle comes through the clouds! It had previously landed at Edwards and was being carried back to FL on the back of a 747. We were left in the dust very quickly, however, those moments were incredible. (Edit: 737 -> 747)

    • @patrickjordan2233
      @patrickjordan2233 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Cool!

    • @MegaEmmanuel09
      @MegaEmmanuel09 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Thanks for sharing! And thanks for that link, Sloth, those were some great views!

    • @derrickhappytree
      @derrickhappytree Před 3 měsíci

      ​@GlutenEruption umm I know, I just watched the video lol

    • @Artemie-np3qu
      @Artemie-np3qu Před 3 měsíci +7

      I was not aware that the shuttle could be carried by a 737, thought that was a 747’s job lol😊

    • @Rw_depaling739
      @Rw_depaling739 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@Artemie-np3qu The 737 is not able to carry the space shuttle, it was probably a typing error

  • @michaelwicker9538
    @michaelwicker9538 Před 3 měsíci +373

    Holy crap has the CGI gotten good on this channel... Congratulations to the production team working on these.

    • @tylerm8629
      @tylerm8629 Před 3 měsíci

      You're a 🤡

    • @mctooch
      @mctooch Před 3 měsíci +8

      I just said similar thing. Sooooo good

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 3 měsíci +12

      That shot of the orbiter in space with the wing root sections popping out scared the crap out of me, I thought I was watching actual footage. If your wings ever did that in real life you are in big trouble.

    • @GregtheMad
      @GregtheMad Před 3 měsíci +5

      10:23 especially looks like it's actual footage shot from the ISS on approach. :O

    • @IcespherePlaysGames
      @IcespherePlaysGames Před 2 měsíci +2

      It looks better than the animations of the space shuttle that used to air on TV. Amazing job by the animators!

  • @cbspock1701
    @cbspock1701 Před 3 měsíci +86

    One of the best quotes about the shuttle in the Atlantis exhibit as you go in is "it was like bolting a butterfly to a bullet" in describing its launch configuration

  • @CaptainCookie04
    @CaptainCookie04 Před 3 měsíci +566

    One small thing: 177°C = 450K; 980°C = 1253K. So Inconel X can withstand a little less than 3 times the temperature of Aluminium, not more than 5!!! That’s why we always do temperatures in Kelvin 😅

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 Před 3 měsíci +40

      that is a very good point, I didn't even realize that.

    • @markam306
      @markam306 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @ Captain Cookie,
      You beat me by 2 hours ! I calculated 2.78 times Inconel / Al
      :-)

    • @brandonb6164
      @brandonb6164 Před 3 měsíci +43

      This video is full of small errors.

    • @TheFamousGruntNYkong
      @TheFamousGruntNYkong Před 3 měsíci +2

      Now I get why Space X chose stainless for Starship - KISS principle ..

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Or Rankine if you are working in America's private sector.
      But honestly, once you get outside of the everyday units and ranges its almost always easier to just use metric. (Imperial is a pile of legacy units, that are pretty good in context but once you leave that context and have to convert it just gets gross. I still hate that i know what a pound-mol is.)

  • @DarkKnight52365
    @DarkKnight52365 Před 3 měsíci +301

    one of my favorites quotes when describing the shuttle during re-entry is that its a "flying brick on approach" from the Clint Eastwood film "Space Cowboys"

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 3 měsíci +16

      Yeah. "Aerodynamic approach*"
      *For certain interpretations of "aerodynamic"

    • @_Azur
      @_Azur Před 3 měsíci +1

      this movie 🔥

    • @brianfoltz9736
      @brianfoltz9736 Před 3 měsíci +6

      The shuttle was a beautiful flying brick.

    • @kodidavis2819
      @kodidavis2819 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It is amazing movie

    • @grissee
      @grissee Před 3 měsíci +2

      suddenly half as interesting

  • @RAAFLightning1
    @RAAFLightning1 Před 3 měsíci +572

    me playing ksp and blowing up 20 of my rockets before 1 successful reentry:
    "im something of an engineer myself too"

  • @Raceb8420
    @Raceb8420 Před 3 měsíci +14

    In fourth grade, a NASA engineer was invited to come to my school to hold an assembly where he demonstrated some of the advanced technology NASA was using at that time. At one point, he held up one of the insulating tiles, describing it's function on the space shuttle. He then proceeded to get it brightly glowing hot with a large blow torch. As the tile was heating up, he asked for a volunteer. I immediately raised my hand, and he motioned me to come forward. I stood there for a moment in awe of the glowing white-hot brick in front of me. He picked it up using a thermal glove and asked if I wanted to touch it. I shook my head, no, no, no, and everyone laughed. He winked at me and took my hand and guided it above the still glowing tile. He told me to pick it up off his gloved hand, and to the shock and awe of myself and the rest of the school, I picked it up. It was only slightly warm, and sort of made a slight hissing sound when my skin made contact with it. I was scared, but the fear quickly turned into amazement at what I had just experienced. One of my fondest memories, for sure. It left a lasting impression, to say the least.

  • @einfisch3891
    @einfisch3891 Před 3 měsíci +73

    I absolutely believe the space shuttle is one of the single most impressive feats of engineering in human history. In addition to the Apollo missions, it's incredible we could do what we did with the tech of that time and have such a high success rate.

    • @davidb2206
      @davidb2206 Před 2 měsíci

      "We"? 99% of humans alive today, if put on an island with all the raw materials needed to build one, COULD NOT DO IT. Not ever.

    • @AndyFerr
      @AndyFerr Před 2 měsíci +3

      What was really impressive is the 1:67 fatal failure rate. Making the most unsafe space craft ever created, holding space technology back about 30 years since they splashed all the money on a complete disaster.

    • @davidb2206
      @davidb2206 Před 2 měsíci

      Diversity NASA blew up 2 out of 4 space shuttles, a 50% failure rate.

    • @tombolo4120
      @tombolo4120 Před měsícem

      Yes very impressive but probably not as impressive as the craft I saw which dropped straight in from a stand still about 12 years ago.

  • @mm-nyc
    @mm-nyc Před 3 měsíci +93

    The first time I saw an orbiter in person I was completely taken back by the thermal protection system. As a kid, I would write to NASA to get information on the STS (no internet at the time) and would read it over and over, so I knew that the shuttle was not just a painted aluminum aircraft (like it appeared on 80's television).
    When I first saw it in person at Kennedy the first thing I thought was 'it looks dirty' and pieced together, and not as refined as it did in the photos that I had. It gave me a better appreciation for the careful design, engineering and fabrication that went into it.

    • @ni9274
      @ni9274 Před měsícem

      Did nasa ever respond you ?

    • @mm-nyc
      @mm-nyc Před měsícem

      @@ni9274 All the time. I would get a large envelope from them every week filled with color photos and documents.

  • @benchapple1583
    @benchapple1583 Před 3 měsíci +238

    I've never heard steel being described as 'a poor heat conductor' before. You learn something new every day.

    • @mikeomolt4485
      @mikeomolt4485 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Depends on how thick or thin the metal actually is.

    • @petervillano3484
      @petervillano3484 Před 3 měsíci +80

      Chefs know steel is a poor heat conductor compared to copper or aluminum.
      Fancy pans are copper (for thermal conductivity) clad in stainless steel (for non-reactivity)

    • @brandonb6164
      @brandonb6164 Před 3 měsíci +56

      Copper conducts heat about 20x faster than steels and nickel alloys. But compared to polymers and ceramics any metal is vastly more conductive of heat.

    • @mikeomolt4485
      @mikeomolt4485 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@petervillano3484 My favourite pan is one made from stainless steel. Looks like just another pot, but the base is almost 1cm thick. Base provides and retains a more even spread of heat.

    • @ricksterallain
      @ricksterallain Před 3 měsíci +14

      It is when compared to copper, but not when compared to wood lol.

  • @kenkremer2581
    @kenkremer2581 Před 3 měsíci +16

    I made those thermal blankets with my fellow "Sew Sisters." The correct range of temperatures for those blankets were roughly 650-1200 degrees. The majority of the blankets were about 1/2" thick -Class 4. Most of the orbiter was covered in that thickness. The OMS Pods were covered with Class 10 or 11- approx 1,000-1,200 protection. The blankets were thick in the area because the OMS Pod skin was made of composite materials. NASA required the blankets in that area to be that thickness because the temperature couldn't exceed 350 degrees. Otherwise, it could soften the airframe there.

  • @MrHbaus
    @MrHbaus Před 3 měsíci +15

    my dad worked at the company that made those parachutes! I remember him telling a story about testing some of them early in the development period, they went out to a local airfield and tested a scaled down design by attaching it to the rear frame of my dads blazer. From his telling it stopped the car dead in its tracks and nearly tore apart the frame! Side bonus for me as a kid was all expense paid corporate visits to Canaveral to shuttle launches and landings!

    • @trashmanej4965
      @trashmanej4965 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Was the sacrificial blazer a company car or was your dad just extremely generous? lol

    • @Chris11249
      @Chris11249 Před 2 měsíci

      I love this story! Very cool. Old school methodology, the experiment was the goal and how you did it and if it was a bit unsafe wasn't a worry. Imagine OSHA nowadays. But on the flip side we have computers now lol and that's pretty darned cool, so it all evens out in the end

  • @sashingovender7694
    @sashingovender7694 Před 3 měsíci +578

    The space shuttle really was a marvel of it's time

    • @zaidyounas1602
      @zaidyounas1602 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@aleespabst1011 problem?

    • @davidbuckley2435
      @davidbuckley2435 Před 3 měsíci +21

      A real shame that it never resolved the financial barrier of space travel.

    • @jj4791
      @jj4791 Před 3 měsíci

      It was a poorly thought out design.
      There is no reason to use a glider to return to earth. It is vastly more difficult to make a plane that wont melt, than a space capsule.
      They added solid rocket boosters, which cannot be shut down. And can also detonate instantaneously, if anything goes wrong.
      Saturn V > Soyuz > Space Shuttle

    • @brll5733
      @brll5733 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Tbf it failed all it's stated goals and slowed down space travel by decades.

    • @MyrKnof
      @MyrKnof Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@brll5733 agreed, it's absolutely terrible. Should never have been made. Great engineering, sure, but terrible platform.

  • @SuperLEGOMADNESS
    @SuperLEGOMADNESS Před 3 měsíci +156

    What they managed to achieve with the technology of the time is so remarkable. My all-time favourite spacecraft.

    • @thecamocampaindude5167
      @thecamocampaindude5167 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Its kind of like the disney movies of the 1960-1990. With the classics. Beautiful art. Same for the landing on the moon

    • @dzzope
      @dzzope Před 3 měsíci

      If you love this stuff you might enjoy a great video on LTT and Everyday Astronaut covering the flight control computers from Apollo.
      Or maybe the mechanical fire control computers from battleship days or even early naval clocks.. Mind bendingly complicated devices made from innumerable problem solving mixed with artisanal levels of precision and craftsmanship.
      Then again, parts of modern screens are produced using ink dot printing, which is Wizardry of another order on it's own.

    • @The_Tinkering_Geek
      @The_Tinkering_Geek Před 3 měsíci +1

      I remember a funny and disturbing quote, "The space shuttle has over 1,000,000 components that all needed to work perfectly, supplied by contractors with the lowest bid"

    • @kapperbeastYT
      @kapperbeastYT Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@dzzopeif we're talking modern engineering techniques, cutting edge lithography for making the most advanced microchips is just complete fucking wizardry

  • @later_daze_4080
    @later_daze_4080 Před 3 měsíci +18

    As a child of the 1980s the Shuttle will always have a huge place in my heart. What the kids in the 60s loved about the Apollo missions, I loved as a kid in the 80s with the Shuttle.

  • @jaredeiesland
    @jaredeiesland Před 3 měsíci +23

    These 3d models are unbelievably impressive and really add so much to the explanations.

  • @nricolas360
    @nricolas360 Před 3 měsíci +147

    Is this a coincidence that the video about re-entry was uploaded on the 1st of February? Because it's the date of the Columbia disaster

    • @F-Man
      @F-Man Před 3 měsíci +24

      Agreed - this is a little bit “on the nose.”

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Před 3 měsíci +20

      well... the LA's exhibit shuttle was just up righted recently... in launch config... couldn't that be the point? there's always a date that's inauspicious for certain things...

    • @sushantmanandhar1387
      @sushantmanandhar1387 Před 3 měsíci +15

      There are no accidents -Master Oogway, or something

    • @Peacewind152
      @Peacewind152 Před 3 měsíci +3

      This was my exact question. Release one hour before the 21st anniversary.

    • @JohnnyWednesday
      @JohnnyWednesday Před 3 měsíci +1

      Probably just a bad joke

  • @infinitegamer4618
    @infinitegamer4618 Před 3 měsíci +96

    "The space shuttle is doing the fastest drift"
    Tokyo drift starts playing 😂

    • @alicorn3924
      @alicorn3924 Před 3 měsíci +3

      KANSEI DORIFTO!?!?!??

    • @qazwedik
      @qazwedik Před 3 měsíci +2

      I wonder if you know

    • @infinitegamer4618
      @infinitegamer4618 Před 3 měsíci

      @@qazwedik How they drift in tokyo

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn Před 3 měsíci +4

      *eurobeat intensifies*

    • @pixelmaster98
      @pixelmaster98 Před 3 měsíci +3

      the space shuttle crew must have been like a family, then :D

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou Před 3 měsíci +10

    Man, I thought I knew a decent amount about the Shuttle but you taught me a lot on this one! The crossrange considerations of single orbit missions, the deployable Air Data Sensors, how the tiles were made, the inconel intermediate connections, the nomex felt base layer, etc. But especially the reversed aileron control at those speeds and AoA!
    Outstanding video!

  • @Zebra_M
    @Zebra_M Před 3 měsíci +63

    3:40 A small note here: 177 degrees Celsius for aluminium is not 5 times lower than the 980 degrees Celsius for inconel x, as the Celsius scale continues below 0. Such statements make more sense on the Kelvin scale where 0 is absolute, and if we convert the temperatures it's 450K against 1250K, meaning inconel can only get only 2.8 times hotter, not 5.

    • @rolfbjorn9937
      @rolfbjorn9937 Před 3 měsíci +1

      TL:DR Your "pedantic" non correction is worthless, the Delta T remains 803°. When comparing with the same unit, yes, it is valid to say that 177 °C is 5x lower than 980°C. Actually, it's 5.5x lower. Both measurements have the same zero. 500°C IS 5x 100°C. You can't just thrown in a conversion of units, especially when they don't have the same interval and invalidate math.

    • @nicoepsilon0
      @nicoepsilon0 Před 3 měsíci

      You are so wrong, what about a fridge set at 2°C versus one at -0.1°C? Would you say it is minus 20 times colder than the other? ​@@rolfbjorn9937

    • @rytan4516
      @rytan4516 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@rolfbjorn9937 It's very important. 5x the temperature needs to mean 5x the thermal energy. Would you say that -5 C is five times the temperature of -1 C, despite having less thermal energy? That'd be ridiculous to the point of being useless.

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@rolfbjorn9937 If you only care about the number of degrees, which doesn't actually reflect the amount of heat, which means such a comparison is totally useless.
      How many times hotter than 0 C is 100 C? The Celsius scale doesn't even allow for that kind of a sentence to make sense. The only reason we use it is because for everyday needs, those numbers are far easier to grasp than saying "better bundle up, it's 273 degrees outside."

  • @HundredMillionViews
    @HundredMillionViews Před 3 měsíci +19

    The more I learn about the problems they solved, the more I learn what a miracle it is that we got as many successful missions as we did with the Shuttle.

  • @stellardiscord610
    @stellardiscord610 Před 3 měsíci +56

    I swear this is the coolest shit ever

    • @ExSheriffFattyBoySkinnyArms
      @ExSheriffFattyBoySkinnyArms Před 3 měsíci +2

      Agreed! The science and engineering that goes into every aspect of a shuttle’s design to final landing is absolutely monumental!

  • @epock7
    @epock7 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Love your videos. They are a great source of joy for those of us who are curious about technology!
    Forgive me for being pedantic, but at 12:04 you state that Inconel is mostly made of steel. Unless this is an alloy I am not familiar with, Inconel is a Nickel based alloy, typically >50% of the composition being Nickel.
    Thanks again for all your great work in these videos!

  • @GlutenEruption
    @GlutenEruption Před 3 měsíci +13

    13:10 - on orbit, the shuttle was oriented with the top side facing earth meaning the black underside was the side which faced the sun. The choice of white on top was driven almost entirely by reentry considerations. Because the upper side is only receiving heat radiatively rather than directly, white is the better choice to reject it.
    Also the vast majority of the white TPS was changed to thermal fabric blankets made of either woven silica fibers or nomex fibers depending on temperature - rigid tiles were almost entirely replaced on the upper side in the 80's.

    • @DaveS_shuttle
      @DaveS_shuttle Před 3 měsíci +1

      Only Columbia and Challenger had LRSI tiles on the midbody and payload bay doors. The latter three, Discovery, Atlantis and Endeavour all made extensive use of Advanced Felt Reusable Insulation (AFRSI, the quilted thermal blankets) replacing both the LRSI tiles and the smooth Felt Reusable Insulation (FRSI) thermal blankets. During extensive downtime between STS-51L and STS-28R, all of the LRSI tiles on Columbia's midbody and PLBDs were replaced with AFRSI blankets, leaving only the Forward Fuselage with LRSI tiles.
      For the ISS missions, alot of the original AFRSI blankets on Discovery, Atlantis and Endeavour were replaced with FRSI blankets for weight saving reasons as every pound counted when lifting heavy payloads into the challenging 51.62° inclination orbit that had been chosen for the ISS (lowest possible inclination available to the Russians). This was in late-90's.

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption Před 3 měsíci

      @@DaveS_shuttle awesome breakdown, thanks 👍.

  • @Sta_cotto
    @Sta_cotto Před 3 měsíci +10

    Describing the banking procedure of re-entry as "the fastest drift in history" has forever etched in my brain the image of the crew switching on Gas Gas Gas during those portions.

  • @stevenwhoward87
    @stevenwhoward87 Před 3 měsíci +4

    One of my favorite videos of yours. The editing, storytelling, info shared, and the phenomenal renders and animations make this far better than most professional space docs I've seen... and I've seen a lot. Incredible all around!

  • @pseudotasuki
    @pseudotasuki Před 3 měsíci +10

    20:26 Not just the Cape! The USAF wanted it to have the same once-around capability from Vandenberg, too. That's much tougher because the orbital inclination is about double what you get launching from Frorida. In other words, you still need to fly the same distance sideways, but you have to pull twice as hard to make the turn.

    • @DemoR
      @DemoR Před 3 měsíci

      As far as I know VAFB was the primary military purpose. KSC only needed cross range for weather purposes

  • @bananas401k
    @bananas401k Před 3 měsíci +9

    the thing that amazes me is how many of these materials are now available and even common commercially

    • @ottomanherox
      @ottomanherox Před 2 měsíci

      Great point, space stuff has ever been so expensive I suppose it becoming economically viable is why spacex and other private space companies popped up.

  • @i_dont_know_anymore223
    @i_dont_know_anymore223 Před 3 měsíci +1085

    The space shuttle was too advanced for its own good 😢
    Edit: YAY 1K also nice also pls sub

    • @2shae475
      @2shae475 Před 3 měsíci +233

      Too complex*

    • @i_dont_know_anymore223
      @i_dont_know_anymore223 Před 3 měsíci +40

      @@2shae475 fair enough

    • @kanivea
      @kanivea Před 3 měsíci +4

      Agree 💯

    • @747simmer4
      @747simmer4 Před 3 měsíci +46

      the Buran was even more advanced , sadly the soviets really only made it because they thought the space shuttle was a threat from a military standpoint

    • @HALLish-jl5mo
      @HALLish-jl5mo Před 3 měsíci +42

      It was just completely pointless. It had a payload of 25 tonnes, but the orbiter weighed 75 tonnes. Let's consider for the moment not reusing anything.
      Well you can get rid of the wings obviously, don't need them, and the thermal protection system. And the crew compartment , now nobody needs to land. And the payload bay, just a simple fairing will do.
      By this point you are down to the engines and orbital thrusters, only you've saved so much mass you only need one engine, smaller thrusters, and smaller fuel tanks for those...
      Now you are lifting so much less mass into orbit, you need an external tank a third the size, and only one SRB. Oh, and no point reusing that, because doing so costs the same as building a new one.
      What was the point of reusing it? Everything they reused was only there to be reused.
      Complete waste of hundreds of billions of dollars.

  • @mastershooter64
    @mastershooter64 Před 3 měsíci +18

    For a brick, it flew pretty good!

  • @jurekm.5858
    @jurekm.5858 Před 3 měsíci +3

    this fucking channel..makes me delete my bad channels..pure quality, I thank you whoever you are.

  • @30AndHatingIt
    @30AndHatingIt Před 3 měsíci +10

    What I wish more people would understand is that neither of the two Shuttle losses were due to the orbiter (what everyone thinks of as “the shuttle”). The first was destroyed by the SRB’s, and the second by foam fatally damaging it. The orbiter itself did everything it was asked.

  • @vovalos
    @vovalos Před 3 měsíci +5

    Thank you for the video.
    I just wanted to comment that this is the first time I not only watched the sponsor video, but found your pitch appealing enough to give it a try. I usually use solidworks, but it has it limitations, let's see how onshape measures up.
    Kudos!

  • @MarkBingley
    @MarkBingley Před 3 měsíci +5

    As usual, an excellent explanation of a very technical subject. Very well done!

  • @firstsecond2290
    @firstsecond2290 Před 3 měsíci +13

    I don’t know why but I cried watching this. As an aerospace engineer I can say without a doubt that this is one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen. It makes me proud to be in the field I’m in. Thank you for this ✈️🚀

  • @narrator69
    @narrator69 Před 2 měsíci

    I remember watching the shuttle enter the atmosphere, it was at night here, and looked like a fireball passing over Calgary, watching it enter the atmosphere was the most amazing thing I even saw. I also watched live as the shuttle exploded during launch in February of '86, was so shocking it took me a few days to process, I was only 16 years old and had never felt those emotions before.
    Keep up the awesome videos, your one of the few you tubers I trust the information from.

  • @johnbenson3024
    @johnbenson3024 Před 3 měsíci +27

    This is true over engineering. With such a complex system it’s a miracle we didn’t have more failures with this craft. A finely tuned machine indeed!

    • @BottleOfCoke
      @BottleOfCoke Před 3 měsíci +6

      Over engineering? We engineers call it good engineering.

    • @johnbenson3024
      @johnbenson3024 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@BottleOfCoke The scope of the crafts abilities was entirely too wide! Don’t get me wrong here, as a mechanical engineer myself I can appreciate the mind boggling level of science and engineering at play here and like I said, it’s a beautiful finely tuned machine. My point though is that they would have been better off creating multiple variants rather than trying to make everyone happy with one do it all craft, and like I said it really is shocking we didn’t see more failures of the system given its complexity. Truly speaks to the skill of the fab and maintenance teams involved.

    • @mikeomolt4485
      @mikeomolt4485 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@johnbenson3024 Multiple variants have been designed, tested and flow ever since Shuttle demise, based on lessons learnt.

    • @TheWizardGamez
      @TheWizardGamez Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@BottleOfCokeGermans call it under engineering

    • @johnbenson3024
      @johnbenson3024 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@TheWizardGamez lol I did think of German and Italian supercars while making the comment.

  • @Blueknight1999
    @Blueknight1999 Před 3 měsíci +9

    20:39 talks about how shuttle's design was dictated by a mission from cape Canaveral mission but i think that this is supposed to be refrencing a mission from Vandenberg AFB? Scott Manley has a great video about it

    • @CHLBUTTERWORTH
      @CHLBUTTERWORTH Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah, you're right. A single orbit mission makes more sense from Vandenberg

    • @jmr5125
      @jmr5125 Před 3 měsíci +4

      To be more precise, the mission requirement was to launch into a polar orbit, rendezvous with a satellite, retrieve it, then land back at Vandenberg. The cross range was required to account for the rotation of the Earth.
      There is no physics reason why such a mission couldn't be performed from the Cape -- but it would require dropping SRBs on the East Coast or on Cuba. Politically speaking, this was never going to happen.

  • @nostalgicmusicbox
    @nostalgicmusicbox Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank you. The animations are incredible. It's brought me back to the early days of why I got into science and engineering.

  • @bitmanagent67
    @bitmanagent67 Před měsícem

    I love the shuttle program. Seeing a launch today generates the same chills and tears it did in the 80s when it first took flight. I have seen numerous documentaries on the shuttle program, and this was one of THE most in-depth analyses of material design and reentry that I have seen to date. Great work. Earned a like and a sub.

  • @gcm747
    @gcm747 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Considering the Space Shuttle, Concorde and SR-71 were designed in the ‘60’s and 70’s, I feel like we’ve stagnated in the last few decades in terms of progressing space and flight vehicle development. Why are these 50+ year old platforms still seen as such technological marvels? If the pace of experimentation and development had continued, they should be seen as absolute relics given what should be flying today.

    • @Julie-ns8vm
      @Julie-ns8vm Před 3 měsíci +3

      it's a mix of more cautiousness and lack of funding. USA just likes funding war more than anything.
      But NASA is still going strong, in my opinion even better than before, just at a slower pace(bc of funding).
      More consideration, more experimenting instead of fixating on a concept, even if other solutions might be better, just to get something working more quickly...
      Wish our world would stop fixating so much on profits and funding the rich, and finally start focusing on improving people's lifes and eventually go beyond just surviving and exploring the mysteries of our Universe.

    • @cieproject2888
      @cieproject2888 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Would also posit that lacking the Cold War dimension of political competition with respect to aeronautics and space flight, the drive behind stretching these technologies to their limits in a flashy way diminished considerably. Concorde could be worth it to prove it could be done for a coolness factor, and show off to the Soviets, but it wasn't commercially viable, and lacked enough material improvement on ordinary jet airliner travel with the technologies that built it. Not that surprising that it lasted barely more than a decade beyond the fall of the Soviet Union
      Similarly, while NASA may have discontinued the shuttle program, it's doing more interesting science than ever before, and being wildly successful putting robots on Mars, and telescopes in far-off space.
      The Cold War really influenced priorities in these fields towards a specific kind of national prestige, and without it, priorities changed

    • @omarofuae
      @omarofuae Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Julie-ns8vmyou hit the nail on the head 👏

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před měsícem

      because they have very very specific needs, theres not a lot of things in this world that require withstanding the heat or even the act of re-entering our atmosphere and are used on the daily by your average joe..
      you also need very smart people for this and an incredible amount of money. its not gonna happen every other year.

  • @d1me75
    @d1me75 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I just want to say I’ve always watched your videos but just recently I started watching them to fall asleep and it’s amazing and that’s not me calling your videos boring quite the opposite I find it stimulating enough that it actually relaxes me and I end up having a good night sleep I’ll definitely be subscribing to your other platforms in the near future keep at it !

    • @mattjacomos2795
      @mattjacomos2795 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Not these videos specifically, but I have been using the same technique for a couple months now and I have always been a shit sleeper. These documentaries sooth my racing brain! You should give "Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles" a try!

  • @matthewcantrell5289
    @matthewcantrell5289 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think my fav thing I learned in this was around 8:40. I’ve never seen (read:noticed) the rear body flap on the shuttle, let alone knew it even existed. That’s awesome

  • @CelticOrdo
    @CelticOrdo Před 3 měsíci +2

    I've thoroughly enjoyed this series. Thank you so much!

  • @creedorian
    @creedorian Před 3 měsíci +16

    this made my day thx

  • @smokeebeefpv
    @smokeebeefpv Před 3 měsíci +3

    I LOVE this series. Thank you!

  • @West_Anderson
    @West_Anderson Před 3 měsíci +2

    This was a great series. I knew the Shuttle was complex but wow this makes it even that much more incredible this thing was built and worked. Truly amazing machine.

  • @ttomi495
    @ttomi495 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think I was never so excited for a youtube video until I saw this series! Please keep you insane work up! :)

  • @aasishwarsaravana5748
    @aasishwarsaravana5748 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Even though the shuttle didnt achieve its main objective (reuseable shuttle with cheap access to space), it was a massive achievement in Engineering and Aerodynamics.
    The biggest surprise and something new I learnt from this video was the hypersonic re entry profile and behaviour or airflow in such profile.

    • @TrickyClaw
      @TrickyClaw Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah, hypersonics are weird. Also in the video they show it making turns while hypersonic. In reality it was only a couple degrees side to side. You cant actually maneuver at hypersonic speeds, all you can do is point in a new direction and increase drag.

  • @anonimenkolbas1305
    @anonimenkolbas1305 Před 3 měsíci +27

    The thumbnail looks like a giant snail colliding with Earth and now I can't unsee it 😂

    • @charmsly9506
      @charmsly9506 Před 3 měsíci +1

      What are you smoking?

    • @Cnupoc
      @Cnupoc Před 3 měsíci +3

      It does. It brothered me, that's why i clicked.... It's not like I don't know what the space shuttle goes through at re-entry or how it's built.
      As a kid of the 80s i watched so many videos about it on the old Discovery channel... Back when it was actually a good cience channel.

    • @contessa.adella
      @contessa.adella Před 3 měsíci +3

      Ha! Now you say it, I saw it too. The fin becomes an eye stalk.

    • @linecraftman3907
      @linecraftman3907 Před 3 měsíci +1

      God damn it! Now i see it too

  • @joetaylor486
    @joetaylor486 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow, this was an eye-opener for me, who lived through the Shuttle era. Fascinating, thank you.

  • @Sasser2015
    @Sasser2015 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very informative video. Really interesting to learn about some of the Space Shuttle's engineering problems and the brilliant solutions devised to deal with them. With all the perils involved, you really had to be a brave soul to crew one of these things.

  • @dzzope
    @dzzope Před 3 měsíci +3

    We need a supercut of this series.
    Long form content is suprisingly well performing in yt for revenue. Especially if there is decent retention / premium viewers.

  • @AVA-hu4yf
    @AVA-hu4yf Před 3 měsíci +3

    This answered so many questions I had about the shuttles. Thank you!

  • @daffidavit
    @daffidavit Před 2 měsíci +2

    Was flying back from Miami Fl. to NYC when the captain of our airliner announced the space shuttle would be departing off our right side miles away. I got to see it climb from below and then above our cruising altitude until I couldn't see it anymore. One of the coolest things I've ever seen.

  • @JAWS9
    @JAWS9 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Your videos are incredibly mind blowing. Thank you for the meticulous details and visuals.

  • @bena461
    @bena461 Před 3 měsíci +3

    i just want to take a second to appreciate the insane engineering of your 3D animations

  • @incargeek
    @incargeek Před 3 měsíci +3

    15:09 communication blackouts were only an issue early in the program. TDRS (tracking and data relay satellites) - launched during early missions - allowed communication upwards, via an antenna in the tail, during entry.

  • @DJDarkrobe
    @DJDarkrobe Před 3 měsíci +1

    Brilliant job on this video, thanks for doing this; I doubt we'll ever see a vehicle like this again.

  • @bob456fk6
    @bob456fk6 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The skill of the designers is absolutely amazing.
    They thought of so many factors.

  • @TwZlr.
    @TwZlr. Před 3 měsíci +4

    This is one of the best Space Shuttle videos I've ever seen...

  • @DreadDeimos
    @DreadDeimos Před 3 měsíci +4

    I love what Onshape have been doing so far. And pray that it won't turn rogue on their openness in future.

  • @samyfay7786
    @samyfay7786 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I find the ceramic tiles details fascinating like a work of art to me. A bit like a finely crafted watch. Made with precision and exactitude in mind.

  • @Chris11249
    @Chris11249 Před 2 měsíci

    This is an incredible video. Better than anything I've ever seen on the Shuttle, and that includes all the Discovery and other stuff as I was growing up.

  • @brandonb6164
    @brandonb6164 Před 3 měsíci +11

    7:18 The region between a bow show and the body which generates that shock in a supersonic flow is not low pressure. It is actually very high pressure, depending on Mach number. At Mach 7 the pressure in this region is 57 times that of the free stream. At Mach 20, it’s 466 times that of the free stream. This is an elementary concept in supersonic flows.
    Blunt bodies produce normal shocks and do experience much less aerodynamic heating. But this is primarily due to a reduction in viscous dissipation heating.
    Source: Fundamentals of Aerodynamics, John D Anderson
    12:10 Inconel is not mostly made of steel. Steels are alloys of iron. Inconel is a family of nickel alloys, none of which are mostly steel.

    • @Djlawson1000
      @Djlawson1000 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the mistake at 7:18 regarding the bow shock pressure change. He even states that this air gap "reduces heat transfer", which is wildly incorrect. It makes me wonder where he got this information, as any compressible fluids textbook covering shockwaves should clearly state how high pressure and high temperature the region between the bow shock and nose is.

  • @Laiyo_1762
    @Laiyo_1762 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Every time I see a video about space, I always get the interstellar song stuck in my head

  • @joethebassplayer
    @joethebassplayer Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video! Your channel is SOOO GOOD!!! Keeps getting better, thank You!!!

  • @danielhenderson7050
    @danielhenderson7050 Před 3 měsíci

    The human ingenuity, craftsmanship, perseverance and teamwork that has to go into a project like this is something that gives me hope for humanity. Despite all the disagreements that they can have, when they want to, people can come together and make something like this. Even airliners, fighter jets, space telescopes etc. It's amazing that we manage to do these things.
    Also your videos on these things are epic. Doing Ireland proud :)

  • @flowrednow
    @flowrednow Před 3 měsíci +3

    @18:33 this is a phenomena of high degrees of AOA not necessarily high altitude or high speed, it has a specific name called adverse yaw. modern flight control systems are now designed to, in high performance planes mostly, to have differential aileron control higher degrees of AOA. the effects of this have actually been mapped by the advisory group for aerospace research and development, AGARD in 1979. their white paper called "high angle of attack aerodynamics" in section 2-6 sub 4.1.1 and accompaning fig 15 for the chart. adverse yaw in traditional configuration begins to happen around 30d of aoa/alpha. before flight control systems basically solved the input problem, pilots were actually trained to change control regime at high alpha, most notably in the F-4 phantom where rudder was used for roll authority in high alpha regimes. a period training video also showing this effect is on youtube called "F-4 flight characteristics TF-6771" and the section on adverse yaw starts at around 10min.

  • @envitech02
    @envitech02 Před 3 měsíci +9

    18:47 Wow, even as a pilot I didn't know this. Amazing!!

    • @elemist315
      @elemist315 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Yeah I doubt most pilots would be experienced in upper atmosphere hypersonic flight haha. Unintuitive details like this are something that stand out and I really appreciate them going through the details as to why in the video.

  • @beng1628
    @beng1628 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love his voice, something about it is just so welcoming and makes learning about these topics so much easier

  • @DJHEADPHONENINJA
    @DJHEADPHONENINJA Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just wanted to say one thing, great renders dude. Really high quality production!

  • @OldFartGrows
    @OldFartGrows Před 3 měsíci +5

    Our family was heavily involved in yacht racing on both coasts. I love it when we had a gaggle of engineers as crew. They simply can't sit on their asses. They are constantly fiddling with something trying to squeeze another 1/17 th of a knot out of the hull 😂

    • @prestonburton8504
      @prestonburton8504 Před 3 měsíci

      oh yeah! i remember when oracle dude was heavy into it - hired divers that would go out middle of the night - and over quite some distance (like james bond underwater transporters) to take pictures of the keel and shape of the hull!

  • @dreadpirateroberts618
    @dreadpirateroberts618 Před 3 měsíci +6

    The true masterpiece of space

  • @collinsmwaura1833
    @collinsmwaura1833 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The quality of CGI in this video is absolutely mind blowing!! Thank you for creating such a perfectly done educational video!

  • @olaftomanek3019
    @olaftomanek3019 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Niesamowita jakość materiału, jestem pod wrażeniem, pozdrawiam!!

  • @cruisinguy6024
    @cruisinguy6024 Před 3 měsíci +9

    I really appreciate the correct term of “orbiter” being used instead of the often misused “shuttle,” which is the booster that gets the orbiter into, well, orbit.

    • @MS-qx9uw
      @MS-qx9uw Před 3 měsíci +2

      Using ‘shuttle’ to refer to the boosters is also incorrect, ‘Space Shuttle’ refers to the whole stack, orbiter included
      Boosters+ET excl. Orbiter are not Shuttle

    • @tgw230
      @tgw230 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The word Shuttle by definition means something that travels back-and-forth between two places, the only thing that does that is the white ship that the people sit in.

    • @cruisinguy6024
      @cruisinguy6024 Před 3 měsíci

      @@tgw230 the “white ship people sit in is the orbiter, not the shuttle. The shuttle is the entire program. By the way, you might want to refer to a dictionary for your definition of “shuttle” but regardless, you can easily refer to NASAs website or Wikipedia to educate yourself that the space plan component is indeed referred to as the orbiter, or the space shuttle orbiter. The crewed space plan is NOT the space shuttle

  • @michelsolon2937
    @michelsolon2937 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Those Delta wings literally carried the whole thing, what a feat of engineering...

  • @thedudeabides3138
    @thedudeabides3138 Před 3 měsíci

    As is typical of this channel, this is a superbly well researched and presented essay with excellent editing to match the narration, I can only imagine the work involved in bringing it all to completion.
    Well done, and thank you.

  • @dsmithwc04
    @dsmithwc04 Před měsícem

    Entering the Ertz atmosphere at turty times the speed of sound is incredible!
    For real, love the channel and you always get a like from this subscriber!

  • @esnevip
    @esnevip Před 3 měsíci +3

    The animations are top notch

  • @B_Van_Glorious
    @B_Van_Glorious Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is some of your best work yet, B.
    Be proud, you took all these things, highly complex and uniquely derivative and put it across clear as day, in a solid engaging pace, with enough nuance so everyone can get a taste of the difficulty and ingenuity involved. While ALSO leaving enough detail, eg with the different unique types of metallurgy involved, that essentially act as a trail of candy for sparked curiosity.
    I can see this playing in every English speaking middle school world over.
    Seriously, bravo.

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby666 Před 3 měsíci +1

    From 1984 to 1992 I grew up around Edwards Air Force Base. I was lucky enough to have witnessed the shuttle landing many times.

  • @fhturner3
    @fhturner3 Před měsícem +1

    The cross-range requirement was 1100 miles by the Air Force because they wanted the capability to launch into polar trajectory from Vandenberg AFB and land after a single orbit, by which time, Vandenberg would have been 1100 miles further east. This polar orbit requirement was driven by the USAF desire to be able to deploy reconnaissance satellites to cover the Soviet Union, much of which was at high latitudes (which would not be fully covered by the the approx max orbital inclination of about 62 degrees w/ a "dog-leg" maneuver up the east coast), and then land again before the shuttle's presence was detected.
    Amazing video BTW!

  • @thehackester
    @thehackester Před 3 měsíci +16

    Bit of a nitpick but the primary amount of radiative heating during reentry wouldn't come from solar radiation but from radiation coming from the reentry plasma.

  • @Phar2Rekliss
    @Phar2Rekliss Před 3 měsíci +3

    My dad worked for Rockwell and helped construct the space shuttles.

  • @IIJAMESHX1
    @IIJAMESHX1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    An unbelievable insight to the Space Shuttle here. Production quality of this video is superb.

  • @shidqi100
    @shidqi100 Před 3 měsíci

    Man I love this channel, never seen anything produced beautifully before in my life

  • @whirledpeas3477
    @whirledpeas3477 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The space shuttle was a answer looking for a problem

  • @mk6595
    @mk6595 Před 3 měsíci +6

    At 24:00 is mentioned the "runway at Cape Canaveral", but is showing footage of somewhere with mountains, probably Edwards AFB or White Sands.

    • @joeltyler3427
      @joeltyler3427 Před 3 měsíci

      That is Edwards Airforce Base. White Sands Missile Range was used one for STS-3 Space Shuttle Columbia. And was lost on the day of upload 21 years ago.

  • @battlejitney2197
    @battlejitney2197 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This without a doubt, the most interesting and well executed channel on CZcams.

  • @romangamez9316
    @romangamez9316 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love the details and knowledge you put in all your videos thank you.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat Před 3 měsíci +3

    21:54 Who remembers The Krypton Factor finals where the contestants got to land the Shuttle in the specialized simulator?
    I was so _jealous._ 💚😒

  • @B_Ahmed1234
    @B_Ahmed1234 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I remember going to Kennedy Space Center when I was a kid in the 90s. They did a live demonstration of a space shuttle tile. The guy turned on a blow torch on one side of the tile and put his hand on the other side.

  • @louisbaldor4225
    @louisbaldor4225 Před 2 měsíci

    I really thank for the different language audio options, it's really helpful.

  • @billmullins6833
    @billmullins6833 Před 3 měsíci +2

    For certain orbital inclinations the last abort base short of orbit was Kadina AB, Okinawa. In 1982 I helped save a shuttle launch. The Tacan (Tactical Air Navigation System) at Kadina went down and base supply did not have a replacement part. I was working Communications Job Control and Navaids Communications Management Office at Yokota AB, Japan. NCMO Kadina called me to see if we had the part. I woke the NCOIC of Supply in the Communications Group, Elmer Troxel, up in the middle of the night. While Trox worked on getting the part, I called in some IOUs and got it a ride to Kadina. We were working against the clock. If the TACAN at Kadina was not back up in time they would have to scrub that launch. Trox got me the part and I got it a ride. The guys at Kadina got the TACAN back up with 2 hours to spare so the launch proceeded as scheduled. Instead of some sort of commendation medal Trox and I got a letter read at Commander's call. Bit Whoop!