Ex-UK Diplomat REVEALS The Abysmal State Of Western (Non-)Diplomacy | Ian Proud

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  • [Part 2 of 2] Mr. Ian Proud was a member of the British Diplomatic Service from 1999 until 2023. During that time he worked in Thailand and Afghanistan as well as many years directly from 10 Downing Street. His most eventful posting however was the position as Economic Counsellor at the UK Embassy in Moscow from 2014 until 2019, about which he recently published a book called “A Mistfit in Moscow: How British Diplomacy in Russia Failed”
    Part 1 of Interview: • Ex-UK Diplomat EXPOSES...
    In this segment we talk about the people in the UK Foreign Office (and other western diplomatic services) and the governments in general who are driving the escalation and non-diplomacy with Russia. While some of those effects arise from a lack of ability, there are also enough neocons who agree with the over-all strategy to "fight to the last Ukrainian" because it strategically weakens Russia (so they believe) while it strengthens Trans-Atlantic ties.

Komentáře • 187

  • @neutralitystudies
    @neutralitystudies  Před 20 dny

    Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Introduction
    00:02:56 - Understanding the Russian Psyche and the Russian Soul
    00:05:56 - The Double Speak of Western Media
    00:08:49 - Stereotypes and Conflict
    00:11:42 - Seeking Peace in Ukraine
    00:14:49 - Differing Views on Foreign Policy in the Labour Party
    00:17:44 - Ukraine-Russia Peace Talks
    00:20:35 - Diplomacy and Peace in Ukraine
    00:23:22 - The Challenges and Optimism for Ukraine
    00:26:09 - Final Thoughts

  • @timjones9962
    @timjones9962 Před 23 dny +57

    Before I even have an opinion on a country I will visit first.
    Sick of the western media bullshit.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain Před 23 dny +1

      Do you have opinions on China Russia, the two most hated countries by the western media and western govts?!

    • @chrisgillard6129
      @chrisgillard6129 Před 23 dny +1

      As a disgruntled Canadian I would love to spend five years in Soshi Russia. Of course I would need money. Unfortunately I have very little. Over 65 now and stuck on a meagre budget.
      It would be great to really get to know what its like to live and travel around the vast Russian landscape and to get to know the people.
      Pity that the free press and government are all controlled by the money masters of the western world.
      I guess the 1% get what they want.
      I hope and trust that the 1% will fail every time.

  • @lioneldemun6033
    @lioneldemun6033 Před 23 dny +34

    An older guy, I ve never seen as many warmongers in the West, particularly among politicians, totally baffling.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain Před 23 dny

      How did the witch grandma peeloosi get to be worth $100M+?!!!

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny

      I am an older guy also. Looks like these warmongers have to undergo some kind of a brain surgery...to enable them to think as reasonable humans....Its really a mental social disorder they are displaying

    • @oaktowndaddyg
      @oaktowndaddyg Před 23 dny +4

      I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam. You are just seeing the reality of the situation.

    • @timkbirchico8542
      @timkbirchico8542 Před 23 dny +5

      I am 62 and i have never seen such international resistance and protest against the dogs of war. The conflict is ongoing. We may well win.

    • @lioneldemun6033
      @lioneldemun6033 Před 23 dny

      @@timkbirchico8542 well apparently you are too young to have witnessed the mass protests against the ' Nam war " times they are a' changin'.....

  • @penglim224
    @penglim224 Před 23 dny +24

    Very sick of war. Leaders who have no love for people.

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny

      It seems that their brain cells for human love have been infected by some kind of a virus.....

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny

      These are not leaders. They are paranoid legal gansters

  • @rogerclark6605
    @rogerclark6605 Před 23 dny +61

    I visited Moscow and St Petersburg five years ago, made to feel absolutely welcome by all we met a great people so sad the way the west has allowed itself to be talked into the present situation by a very few people at the top in Washington and London, point is why ?

    • @laurenth7187
      @laurenth7187 Před 23 dny +6

      Because they are paid for, they get some real rewards like in the USSR, the power is based on sharing privileges... i guess.

    • @charmaine8512
      @charmaine8512 Před 23 dny +16

      My hubby worked in Moscow _ I think people are people all over the world but this chip that the Westerners carry and keep others under their boot is not a good thing

    • @sylviam6535
      @sylviam6535 Před 23 dny

      @@charmaine8512- Exactly. Westerners want to dominate everyone and they have had enough.

    • @richardparker1338
      @richardparker1338 Před 23 dny

      ​@@charmaine8512The chip is called white supremacy, more localized Anglosphere primacy and in particular American exceptionalism.
      It is pure racism at the core. A visceral detest of any other race and an inability to even consider negotiating with those outside "the garden", the jungle dwellers, who are deemed uncivilized, uneducated and essentially subhuman to be exploited, enslaved and eliminated where they are not wanted.

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny +15

      This is 100% correct comment. Decent, mature and peaceful people all over the world.are the same. Its really weird and mysterious just those on the top....are finding a reason to create a war and very hostile climate....Sooner or later the people will have stand up against these warmongers

  • @fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602
    @fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602 Před 23 dny +14

    This British diplomat reminded me of something that happened a few decades ago. I was 25 years old and I was at my grandfather's house, who was 89 years old at the time. We were both having coffee in the kitchen and then my grandfather's eldest son (about 65 years old) came into the kitchen. My uncle started complaining about his 17-year-old son. When he stopped talking, my grandfather looked at me and said the following without looking at his son standing next to him:
    "- Have you noticed the situation, my grandson? My eldest son wants his son to behave like he did when he was 17. But back then the world was very different. I could never think the same way, because I was 17 in 1916. The Brazil that existed during the first world war ceased to exist a long time ago. The same can be said of the world in which my eldest son was 17 years old. But he is incapable of being tolerant and seems to have become senile before me, and I'm much older than him."
    Nations are like people. England may act like my grandfather, but it prefers to think like my uncle. When I witnessed that conversation I wanted to laugh, but I held it back out of respect for my elderly uncle. But whenever I see the results of the UK foreign policy I smile a Machiavellian smile to mock the senile English elite.

  • @alfredoprime5495
    @alfredoprime5495 Před 23 dny +43

    Why do people like Proud persist in speaking about Zelenski as if he were, as Proud put it, a "statesman". He was an actor known for being able to play the piano with his wee-wee. Is Justin Trudeau (a substitute drama teacher) a statesman as well? C'mon!

    • @dinf8940
      @dinf8940 Před 23 dny

      mask of democracy slipping to far for your comfort?
      considering western 'statesman' are invariably puppets, being an actor or drama teacher are some of the most valuable qualifications one can have for the position

    • @turbanheadless
      @turbanheadless Před 18 dny

      Putin was a street thug in his early years. What exactly is your point? Russia good?

  • @hasanahmed46
    @hasanahmed46 Před 23 dny +33

    We like how you analyze the western behavior which is not good for humanity.

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny +12

      These immature warmongers have lost their mind....and holding the whole world hostage for their own benefits

  • @rashidbagewadi1006
    @rashidbagewadi1006 Před 23 dny +19

    Europe destabilized itself. And tears itself. And collapse itself. Nobody nothing to do.

    • @mv69969
      @mv69969 Před 23 dny +5

      USA IN A FIRST PLACE! Eyrope must separate itself from US hegemony policy!Russia always wanted cooperate with Europe, both parties were profitting from it unlike USA which intended to interrupt it by all means !

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny +3

      Russia constantly offer the opportunity and willingess to solve the unnecessary crisis.

  • @r.s.4174
    @r.s.4174 Před 23 dny +12

    The West acts like a hysterical diva past her prime time. It would be funny if it wasn't so deadly.

  • @brianbozo2447
    @brianbozo2447 Před 23 dny +23

    France was the only country that used to be an independent voice.... Until Sarkozy

    • @sciagurrato1831
      @sciagurrato1831 Před 23 dny

      True in part - but the zionists have expanded under the preceding administrations of Sarkozy and Hollande.
      As for Proud, he is seriously uninformed or an agent of the establishment. The UK élites know exactly what they are doing. They know the facts.

    • @danwelterweight4137
      @danwelterweight4137 Před 23 dny

      I know and that gave Germany the room to move. That allowed Gerard Schroder the space to stand up to the US during the Iraq War.

  • @aleaiactaest8354
    @aleaiactaest8354 Před 23 dny +17

    Great guest. Gives hope that there still are diplomats like that 🙏

  • @DJEDzTV
    @DJEDzTV Před 23 dny +8

    Respect to Mr. Ian Proud, from a Russian living in the UK. Turbulent times ahead but many people I talk with are not very pleased with where Britain is heading at the moment and this hawkish posturing and attempts to divert peoples attention on everything else but UK is not really working. Hopefully cool heads and reason will prevail. Peace.

    • @Durnyful
      @Durnyful Před 21 dnem

      Seems unlikely from what we've seen from the last 2 years & the actions of the west leading up to the war

  • @giovannidegrandis1879
    @giovannidegrandis1879 Před 22 dny +2

    Thank you, Pascal, for another very good guest and for a very interesting conversation. I cannot believe that we have become what we are. Let's keep talking sense and hoping that at some point enough people will awake from the warmongers slumber. Keep the good work coming! 👏🏾👍

  • @badhombre4942
    @badhombre4942 Před 23 dny +16

    Imagine getting a peek into Blinken's mind after he has had an encounter with his counterparts from Russia, India or China. Would it be a mind that realizes just how unfit it is for the job?

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny +1

      How is it possible that an immature and insane person hold such a top position

    • @misericorde3870
      @misericorde3870 Před 23 dny +5

      Look at what his 2nd citizenship is, that'll explain it.

    • @ventoraveritas2853
      @ventoraveritas2853 Před 23 dny

      Like most of the power players.

    • @Zidana123
      @Zidana123 Před 23 dny

      Why would he realize such a thing?
      To him, his "counterparts" are of the nations and therefore mere Cattle, while he is the Master.

  • @gopalramanathan7062
    @gopalramanathan7062 Před 23 dny +27

    Excellent discussion. Unfortunately most of the Western but especially the United States suffers from Russophobia. Earlier it was the hatred of the Soviet Union, but despite its collapse and the emerging Russia wanting to be respected as a friend of the West the West for some inexplainable reasons transferred the hatred of the former Soviet Union now to Russia. In all of that Communist China benefited big time. The West was (and is) in love with China though China’s own ambition to dominate and subjugate the West. Bizarre.
    The United States can have the Cuban missile crisis moment but Russia is not entitled to the Ukraine NATO moment ⁉️
    You can bet your bottom $$ that Ukraine is not going to defeat Russia on Russian soil. Time for the West to wake up.

    • @richardparker1338
      @richardparker1338 Před 23 dny +1

      The continuance of anti-Russian hatred stems from the need to have an enemy so that the massive trillion Dollar arms industry continues to earn profits and donate to politicians, and secondly it enables politicians to deflect blame for their inability to develop and create prosperity on to an external country.
      There is no indication the China is interested in dominating the west. Neither the Chinese government, nor the Chinese nor the wider SE Asians have the same imperialist warmongering culture. They are more collectivist and seek to avoid conflict by any means as long as possible. It is the west that exhibits the urgent need to, "have it out, let's settle this now" mentality.
      By bringing up China as a threat, you are part of the western problem.
      An example is Taiwan. If Washington stopped the provocation, and the status quo was maintained, China would wait for hundreds of years, hoping and expecting that their wayward brothers and sisters in Taiwan would finally rejoin China peacefully.
      This is completely against the US strategy of needing more wars. Global peace and prosperity is simply not seen as an ultimate goal.
      The aim of the US is to create a global dictatorship governed by Washington, enforced by a network of transnational military organisations run from Washington, operated by the US corporations and financed by US bankers.

    • @moestietabarnak
      @moestietabarnak Před 22 dny

      REALLY?! "China’s own ambition to dominate and subjugate the West" ... pure western propaganda!
      They have 1.4 billions peoples to govern ! They have no need of the West, they just want to do business with the world.
      Look at a map of US' base around the world and tell me "who is menacing who" !
      FFS, they want to protect the south china sea trade routes, to prevent China to menaces CHINA's trades !

    • @lukasbauer8783
      @lukasbauer8783 Před 21 dnem

      Somewhat sane where Russia is concerned but still utterly deluded on China.
      Halfway there.
      Perhaps one day you'll get it.
      China is not the boogie man either and it has zero interest in subjugating the West.
      Hell, if one compares it to Russia, Russia has far more of an aggressive and imperialistic tradition than China ever had.
      Still far less so than many western countries of course.
      All yesterday's news though, today both China and Russia only want to do business and nothing more.
      And of course for the Chinese business is just business, only the West tries to weaponize and politicize trade and finance and to use it as a tool of manipulation and control.

  • @macrosense
    @macrosense Před 23 dny +13

    NATO is too poor for peace. That NATO budget was too important a percentage of gdp.

    • @macrosense
      @macrosense Před 23 dny +5

      It is true that NATO’s primary role is to legitimize the whims of whichever faction is in control of Washington at the time. Granted, the neoconservatives dominate both parties here

  • @miclewis55
    @miclewis55 Před 23 dny +6

    I do hope Ian continues to speak with ‘new’ media … a valuable and experienced voice regarding the woeful state of British diplomacy in Moscow.

  • @mxvega1097
    @mxvega1097 Před 23 dny +6

    A devastating portrait of UK foreign policy capability - and standing: the potemkin Embassy in Moscow, understaffed, those who are there are inadequately trained and experienced, spending their days in secure zoom calls with London in an endless and very expensive exercise in groupthink. And all the while the Russian presence in London has access to dream of, and experienced professionals doing their job. Here's a qu: if British interests were genuinely at stake, would this picture be different?
    My hunch is that British policy has been outsourced to the US, outflanked by France and Germany in Europe, so there are no stakes any more. Just a big pile of bricks and mortar as a monument for an Anglo-Russian relationship which hasn't existed in any tangible form in 20 years.

    • @indycoon
      @indycoon Před 23 dny

      The embassies just pay people who report what they want to hear. It has nothing to do with reality.

  • @yogikarl
    @yogikarl Před 23 dny +11

    Zelensky had the role of a prime minister in a film the swapping over two reality was never intended

    • @richardparker1338
      @richardparker1338 Před 23 dny

      It was a TV series and he was a comic with a script written by his wife making fun of the political system.
      Now he is another third rate actor with a script written by Washington destroying his country.
      He is completely out of his depth, and only permitted to carry on because he is licking Biden's shoes clean every day.

  • @1971gift
    @1971gift Před 23 dny +5

    The thing is...an historical analysis of W. Europe's attitudes and bigotries about Russia and E. Europe; especially the Slavs, generally. W. Europe has always been Russophobic. So W. European and subsequent American and geopolitical West policy has always been from the perspective of how they can "civilize" the E. European Slavic barbarians, then shoe horn how to justify all manner of actions and policies to conquer and exploit Russia.
    This period is an extension of that historical relationship.
    I say this because looking historically--Russia has never invaded W. Europe. Whereas Russia has a centuries long history of invaders from the West. So there's hard conversations that need to be had in W. Europe.

    • @ViciousGreeneyed
      @ViciousGreeneyed Před 22 dny +1

      The best comment here, and the ony one that understands what's happening, including the guest and the the channel owner. Though I think thahat Brit ex-diplomat knows perfectly well, only doesn't want to say. Typically British.

  • @desert.mantis
    @desert.mantis Před 23 dny +2

    Thanks for bringing Mr. Proud to Neutrality Studies. It is reassuring to listen to someone who understands real diplomacy, something missing from the current NATO West.

  • @florenthamen1592
    @florenthamen1592 Před 23 dny +1

    Merci beaucoup 😊! Et Z from France...

  • @Time4Peace
    @Time4Peace Před 23 dny +12

    While 146 countries have, 52 countries have not yet recognised Palestine:
    Andorra, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Cameroon, Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Eritrea, Estonia, Federated States of Micronesia, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Kiribati, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Marshall Islands, Mexico, Moldova, Monaco, Myanmar, Nauru, Netherlands, New Zealand, North Macedonia, Palau, Panama, Portugal, Samoa, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Korea, Switzerland, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, United Kingdom, United States.
    Switzerland is one of them! It abstains because it's not yet clear it's a state?! Don't Swiss feel that 16,000 children blown into bits is not evil enough?

    • @nkosipwl
      @nkosipwl Před 23 dny +2

      Who is the Palestinan goverment?

    • @mistermood4164
      @mistermood4164 Před 23 dny

      @@nkosipwl fatah

    • @nkosipwl
      @nkosipwl Před 23 dny

      @@mistermood4164 Fatah? They dont have control over Gaza. So the palestinian state is the Wesrbank? If you apply Pascals and Ian logic from Ukraine to Palestine

    • @mistermood4164
      @mistermood4164 Před 23 dny +2

      @@nkosipwl there are two competing governments watching over to different parts of Palestine

    • @nkosipwl
      @nkosipwl Před 23 dny

      @@mistermood4164 Hamas is a terrorist organisation….

  • @medialcanthus9681
    @medialcanthus9681 Před 23 dny +5

    Never leave your defence to others. Even India has own army n pride.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain Před 23 dny

      And also especially important is every govt must control their media and social media or else get brainwashed by the empire of lies. Too bad Indian media wion and gravitas are already bought and paid , by USA!

  • @user-iu5vc5ki8p
    @user-iu5vc5ki8p Před 23 dny +3

    I found Mr. Proud's comments a little muted. I would have much preferred that Pascal had spent some time discussing the origins of the conflict. There seemed nothing in the interview that examined the actions of the West in causing the war and that is something that people should know about.

  • @brianbozo2447
    @brianbozo2447 Před 23 dny +5

    France was the only country that used to be an independent voice.... Until Sarkozy took over and Macron followed

    • @vespass225
      @vespass225 Před 23 dny

      And Macron seem to be be very close to insane... Started out in 2022 as "a reasonable dove-of-peace" , warning the west of driving Putin into a corner, and to humiliate Russia.
      Now obviously living on the same planet of reality-decoupled, cynical fantasies as the Biden administration... , sad and dangerous indeed...

  • @ChrisHalden007
    @ChrisHalden007 Před 23 dny +2

    Great video. Thanks

  • @Captain8159
    @Captain8159 Před 23 dny +6

    Fantastisk

  • @abdoelsengan7315
    @abdoelsengan7315 Před 23 dny +5

    The war started at 2014

    • @tigersilberhannes9153
      @tigersilberhannes9153 Před 23 dny +1

      1914*
      Its still the same world war.

    • @indycoon
      @indycoon Před 23 dny

      Yes, after a coup in Ukraine organized by the West. Crimea and Donbass refused to recognize the illegal government

  • @ericteng7725
    @ericteng7725 Před 17 dny

    This guy is A OK. Absolutely AOK!! He's got the real grip on the whole scenario. He's the real deal. His integrity is unquestionable. His status not withstanding.

  • @phoebusapollo4677
    @phoebusapollo4677 Před 22 dny +1

    Free Assange, let him publish the truth!

  • @vrhovnipredstojnik7650
    @vrhovnipredstojnik7650 Před 23 dny +4

    So sad, so sad seeing my brothers bleeding for some others evil chip-set mind.

  • @potapotapova9375
    @potapotapova9375 Před 23 dny +3

    It's very silly to draw a comparison of the current Ukraine war with the Afghan one for the Russians. Who are the Afghanis to the Russians? Ukrainians, on the other hand, are part of the Russian world and there will be no "withdrawal" just because the forces are being drained and exhausted.

  • @DwynAgGaire
    @DwynAgGaire Před 23 dny

    thanks!

  • @angeurbain6129
    @angeurbain6129 Před 23 dny +2

    Great-Britan political leadership still think they represent a great power. But this is not the case anymore in terms of economic and military power. The labour is no diffrent about this. Focusing almost it's whole economy on London as a financial center was and is a dumb bet.

  • @DundeeDazza
    @DundeeDazza Před 23 dny +3

    Would have been a good time to ask Mr. Proud where the Srikpals are?

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux Před 23 dny +2

      Ask M16

    • @DundeeDazza
      @DundeeDazza Před 23 dny +2

      @@casteretpollux Yeah, might ask them where they buried the bodies.

    • @halo2something
      @halo2something Před 23 dny +1

      last time i heard anything about them - daughter is in prison, the father is dead

    • @DundeeDazza
      @DundeeDazza Před 23 dny

      @@halo2something would to know any links you have re this. I have little doubt he is dead, they try and say they are in New Zealand.

  • @user-ne8yi1io4h
    @user-ne8yi1io4h Před 23 dny +1

    UK embassy staff just can't wait to be posted to Malaysia, Singapore and China where the weather and food is great, they can speak their only language and they party like 1999 !

  • @danthemansmail
    @danthemansmail Před 23 dny

    We aren't slightly doomed. We are fully doomed, and we should be.

  • @EgonTheViking
    @EgonTheViking Před 22 dny

    Interesting interview particularly the part about the current lack of a balance and accurate view about Russia. For other people that also found this interesting I can recommend the book “The Russia Anxiety: And How History Can Resolve It” by Mark B. Smit, dated July 2019.

  • @rachmanmitchell2845
    @rachmanmitchell2845 Před 23 dny +2

    We judge Putin by his words and his actions, We talk about the Dods of War. Dog fights are mad from the human point of view. Who is really human?

    • @richardparker1338
      @richardparker1338 Před 23 dny

      And how do you judge the western imperialists?
      The wars, famines, slaughtering of civilians, enslaving of populations, all carried out by the whities?

  • @osnaz075
    @osnaz075 Před 23 dny +1

    True

  • @Federico-kh4br
    @Federico-kh4br Před 23 dny +1

    There are no more friends in the world

  • @meggallucci5300
    @meggallucci5300 Před 23 dny +2

    History is important. Maybe DNA is too. I consider Ursula von der Leyen and wonder why Europeans permitted a German to have much power in the EU. They should have known. They should have anticipated her warlike nature, authoritarianism and control-freakish fascism. Maybe I am wrong, but she defines the term Germanic to me.

    • @alfredjames6450
      @alfredjames6450 Před 23 dny

      Its really weird a GERMAN lady in EU.....This whole organisation is sickening.

  • @TheArdildo
    @TheArdildo Před 15 dny

    "It was Great Britain and the United States that opposed negotiations. Davyd Arakhamia - he was the chief negotiator for Ukraine in the early negotiations, and he himself has said that Boris Johnson went to Kyiv to tell the Ukrainians that they should not enter into a peace agreement, 'let's just fight' were his words."
    The statements are identical to Russia's claims. At the end of the video below, you will see the Ukrainian Foreign Minister's short version (2). You must think that is wrong?
    Putin did the same during the Tucker Carlson interview earlier this year. Then the Moscow Times had a decent summary:
    Putin repeated a claim by David Arakhamia, Ukraine's lead negotiator, that Boris Johnson dissuaded Ukraine from signing a peace deal that would have ended the war in its first few months, saying it was "better to fight Russia."
    Johnson has dismissed this allegation as “total nonsense and Russian propaganda.” The British government said Johnson warned against negotiating with Russia "on terms that gave credence to the Kremlin's false narrative for the invasion, but stressed that this was a decision for the Ukrainian government."
    Arakhamia says his comments have been distorted by the Kremlin, claiming his remark to "just fight" Russia was made in a discussion of how best to repel Russia's army. He also stressed that political decisions such as whether to sign a peace deal were the "sovereign right of the Ukrainian leadership." (3)
    - He claims it was the West's fault that the negotiations broke down. If you think you've heard it before, it's true: A bit like when Mearsheimer wrote his famous article in 2014, where it was called "The Ukraine Crisis Is the West's Fault." So: Russia is just a poor victim.
    So to the point. Polygraph (Voice of America's fact checker), has summarized this as follows:
    ----
    In his TV interview, Arakhamia, who led the Ukrainian delegation at the peace talks with Russia in Belarus and Turkey in 2022, revealed that in the spring of 2022, Russia proposed a deal under which it would end its war against Ukraine if Ukraine dropped its plans to join NATO and declared neutrality:
    "They were prepared to end the war if we agreed to - as Finland once did - neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO," Arakhamia said in the interview.
    However, he noted that Ukraine's NATO aspirations are written in its Constitution, which would have to be amended if its NATO bid were abandoned. He also said that Ukraine did not trust Russia to stick to such an agreement:
    "There is no, and there was no, trust in the Russians that they would do it. This could only be done if there were security guarantees.”
    Arakhamia did say that Johnson, during his trip to Kyiv in early April 2022, told Ukraine's leadership it should "not sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight." However, he indicated that Johnson's advice was just that, not an order , and that Ukraine's negotiations with Russia were “not managed in any way” by the U.S. or other Western governments:
    “[W]e consulted, of course - we understood that we cannot win the war by ourselves, so we definitely need to consult with them on this issue. And they actually advised us not to go for any ephemeral security guarantees, which at that time were impossible to give at all."
    (5, the original TV interview with Arakhamija in source 6)
    -----
    Myth Detector (Verified Fact Checker for Facebook) - there's more in the article, but here's their short version:
    -----
    The claim that the Russia-Ukraine peace talks failed because of Boris Johnson's position is manipulative. In fact, the interview of Davit Arakhamia reveals that the Ukrainian side was not going to agree to the agreement even before Johnson's call, noting that the British Prime Minister did not put pressure on their position. (6)
    -----
    Otherwise, there was a very thorough review in Foreign Affairs in April this year about why the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia broke down ( 8 ). Here, the Russian myth that it was Boris Johnson who "forced" Ukraine away from the negotiations was also punctured.
    On the same day, the Pole Daniel Szeligowski had an important complementary thread on X/Twitter, where he explained why he thinks Russia was just playing a game. (9)
    Briefly summarized: Møllersen is at best making claims that he cannot document.
    You ignore that the Ukrainians may know better than you about what they find worth fighting for. Perhaps they have something to learn, that peace without freedom is not peace, but the totalitarians' false narrative of peace.
    As you know, this was also highly topical during the Second World War. If the Allied countries had followed their recipe, Hitler would have been given easy leeway.
    As Ukraine's foreign minister puts it at the end of the video below: "Keep supporting Ukraine, and don't buy Russian lies."
    Sources:
    2. x.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1790264015316205746
    3. www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/09/5-claims-from-putins-tucker-carlson-interview-fact-checked-a84040
    4. radikalportal.no/2014/03/13/vestlig-imperialisme-baner-vei-for-ukrainske-fascister/
    5. www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-moscow-twists-zelenskyy-ally-s-words-about-2022-russian-peace-deal-offer/7380585.html
    6. Original Ukrainian TV interview with Davyd Arakhamija: czcams.com/video/6lt4E0DiJts/video.htmlsi=AkmvZoQ50cCB86oR
    7. mythdetector.ge/en/manipulation-as-if-arakhamia-said-that-the-deal-with-russia-failed-because-of-boris-johnson-s-position/
    8. www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/talks-could-have-ended-war-ukraine
    9. Szeligowski's thread:
    X/Twitter: twitter.com/dszeligowski/status/1780183950507262201
    For those who are not on X/Twitter: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1780183950507262201.html

  • @Dr_MKUltra
    @Dr_MKUltra Před 23 dny +3

    Zelensky started reading about Winston once he was gaslighted by the western Warhawk’s and clowns 😂

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Před 23 dny +1

      It is still a fitting reference, as Churchill was an Alcohol trader during US Prohibition. 🤣

  • @annparker3222
    @annparker3222 Před 23 dny +1

    Although, I have never been to Russia, I remember the 'Red under the bed' syndrome we all imbibed in the 50's and 60's up to 1989. I worry about Russia assassinations perpetrated on our soil , and the death of British citizens in the process. However talks should have started at a very early stage in the current conflict and Russia's concerns regarding their borders , NATO and EU membership taken into consideration.

    • @indycoon
      @indycoon Před 23 dny

      Russia assassinations or false flag operations by MI6?

  • @yttean98
    @yttean98 Před 23 dny +1

    Most interesting >4min onwards till 8min.

  • @texx1985
    @texx1985 Před 23 dny

    It's nice to see there are some people with brain left in the UK

  • @tigersilberhannes9153
    @tigersilberhannes9153 Před 23 dny +6

    Stop blaming Stalin for the crimes of Churchill, Roosevelt and Lenin!
    Honestly, you are a historian as well, stop repeating coldwar propaganda (including Krushtshowien one).

    • @zetristan4525
      @zetristan4525 Před 23 dny

      Yes, Stalin&Beria had more than enough crimes of their own! They don't need anyone stealing them more murders to boost their resume.

  • @casteretpollux
    @casteretpollux Před 23 dny +3

    Very odd that the presenter glossed over the Nazi invasion of Russia.

    • @craigrik2699
      @craigrik2699 Před 23 dny

      He always does, he’s still a Western hack

  • @gianky343
    @gianky343 Před 22 dny

    The tragedy of this way of thinking both in the West and in Russia is that the real culprits of this stupid clash between NATO and Russia are never correctly identified 😂

  • @olavmartinkvam4184
    @olavmartinkvam4184 Před 23 dny

    Europe have never been week, and never will be. Russia is in Europe too. What you know??

  • @blex5579
    @blex5579 Před 22 dny +1

    Stalin HAD to industrialize the country as quick as possible, because he saw the writing on the wall...wthout that step, which unforntunately resulted in the starvation of 2-3 million Russians, he would have never been able to stand up to Germany...
    classic anglo-saxon demonization as per usual...

  • @Arielelian
    @Arielelian Před 22 dny +2

    This guy gives such an interesting splattering of truths and half-truths. While he recognizes some glaring realities, he twists some...seemingly quite intentionally.
    For example, the claim that Putin views the West as "Nazis" as how the West views Putin as "Hilter" is verifiably false. I don't think anyone in the Russian govt holds that view of the West, and in contrast, they've sought diligently to keep good diplomatic ties much to their own detriment.
    The West, however, is wholly consumed by their tribalist thinking--save a select handful--presuming that losing Ukraine equates to an "existential threat" to the West. Afterall, it is the West who've used deception and lies to push their agenda, while Russia has negotiated in good faith...again much to Russia's detriment.
    Russian diplomats, including Putin, have merely accepted the reality that Western govts are wholly compromised and unreasonable--which they are--thus all future negotiations need to factor in this variable. It's a realistic choice to make.

  • @Gunni1972
    @Gunni1972 Před 23 dny

    The Transatlantic Alliance looks more and more like "Dr. Fate". From "The Great race". It will fail, it's just a question of time.

  • @evolvedape3341
    @evolvedape3341 Před 23 dny

    Why does “diplomacy” always mean doing what the Ruzzians want? Why doesn’t “diplomacy” mean the Ruzzians doing what we want?

    • @moestietabarnak
      @moestietabarnak Před 22 dny +1

      because what Russia want is reasonable, what the west want is complete submission!

    • @Durnyful
      @Durnyful Před 21 dnem

      Like setting up nato on their southern border yeah?

    • @evolvedape3341
      @evolvedape3341 Před 21 dnem

      @@Durnyful Yeah.

  • @ViceCoin
    @ViceCoin Před 9 dny

    Europe is too poor to rearm and rebuild Ukraine.

  • @ZPB2882
    @ZPB2882 Před 23 dny

    При всем уважении, вы слишком мало знаете о Сталине, что следует из высказанного мнения о его ужасности. Разберитесь уже в этой личности объективно, и поймете, почему именно он занимает в любых опросах россиян первое место в хит-параде величайших личностей русской истории. Особенно! у молодежи. Это уже не пропаганда, это доступность разных источников о нем

  • @turbanheadless
    @turbanheadless Před 18 dny

    These two men do not know a single thing about russia.

  • @evolvedape3341
    @evolvedape3341 Před 23 dny

    So… I don’t understand your guest’s point of view on the degree to which Ruzzia is a threat. Do we in the West underappreciate the power of Ruzzia and still exist in this “triumphant” post-Cold War attitude. Or is Ruzzia weak and their military, economy, and demographics nothing to worry us about?

    • @Durnyful
      @Durnyful Před 21 dnem

      Realistically it is not a threat to western Europe. The existential threat is a bald lie

    • @user-to8im4ie7q
      @user-to8im4ie7q Před 17 dny

      I smell n@tzo fan

  • @KellieEverts-ss8uz
    @KellieEverts-ss8uz Před 15 dny

    Look i know you Europans are now going to do everything possible to get the hell away from this .

  • @sciagurrato1831
    @sciagurrato1831 Před 23 dny

    Pascal, unlike your guests from the Germanic world, this Englishman is a serious letdown. He likely represents the élites - his argument that more “facts” are needed to enable the élites to understand better is completely specious.
    The Brits and City of London know exactly what they are doing.
    Please don’t have him on again.

  • @ViciousGreeneyed
    @ViciousGreeneyed Před 22 dny

    Worthless. Nothing said, nothing understood, especially from the side of the channel owner. Ex-diplomat is sly, not so ignorant. Dislike.

  • @cowboywoodard2569
    @cowboywoodard2569 Před 23 dny

    Borris Johnson and Blinken, nuland started the war in Ukraine

  • @Bible7Lover
    @Bible7Lover Před 21 dnem

    Pascal, please recount Stalin's crimes against his people. THX!!!

    • @user-to8im4ie7q
      @user-to8im4ie7q Před 17 dny

      Please recount brit's or murican's crimes against the world.
      Please recount all you know is msm sham.
      Please stfu.
      Who are you to moralize if you can't even think.

  • @cowboywoodard2569
    @cowboywoodard2569 Před 23 dny

    The UK IS VASSL STATE THE U.S.

  • @tmarinelic
    @tmarinelic Před 23 dny

    True