The Logistics Of A Boeing 747 Private Jet
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Private jets come in all shapes and sizes. While smaller aircraft, such as those from Cessna, Bombardier, or Embraer, are more common, variants of commercial jets are also used. There has not yet been a private A380, meaning the 747 is currently the largest in use for such a purpose.
But… What do these conversions look like, and who ends up using them?
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This is funny. That one owner bought a 747, but apparently was "not looking for something outrageous" when designing the interior. It's already outrageous to own one for personal use.
Don’t be hating lol
@@AndersonShamon1997 lol
In 1985 and 1986, I got to work on a B747-300 for private use. HZ-HM1A (B747-3G1) when it was in San Antonio, TX for interior Modifications.
List of BBJ747-8i;
1. Oman: A4O-HMS,
2. China: B-2479
3. Brunei: V8-BKH
4. Morocco:CN-MBH (ex A6-PFA)
5. Turkey: TC-TRK (ex VQ-BSK)
6. Qatar: A7-HBJ
7. Qatar: A7-HHE
8. Qatar A7-HHF (ex A6-PFB)
9. Kuwait: 9K-GAA
10. Saudi: HZ-HMS1
11. South Korea: HL-7643
12. Egypt; SU-EGY (ex; N828BA/ D-ABYE)
The upcoming Air Force One/ VC-25B (ex Transaero):
13. USA: N894BA (ex EI-MOW)
14. USA: N895BA (ex EI-TSO)
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List of Gov't BBJ747-300 & -400;
1. HZ-HM1A; Saudi govt
2. HZ-HM1; Saudi gov't
3. N7474C; Bank of Utah (ex JASDF)
4. N7477C; Bank of Utah (ex JASDF)
5. A6-COM; Dubai Royal Flight
6. A6-GGP; Dubai Royal Flight
7. A6-MMM; Dubai Royal Flight
8. A6-HRM; Dubai Royal Flight
9. A6-HMM; Dubai Royal Flight
10. A9C-HAK; Bahrain Royal Flight
11. A9C-HMK; Bahrain Royal Flight
12. A9C-HMH; Bahrain Royal Flight
13. 10001; Korean gov't
14. A4O-OMN; Oman Royal Flight
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List of Special 747SP;
1. A9C-HAK; Bahrain Royal Flight (ex; A6-ZSN)
2. VQ-BMS; Las Vegas Sands (ex; A9C-HMH)
3. VP-BLK; Las Vegas Sands (ex; A992MS & A6-SMR)
4. VP-BAT; CSDS Aircraft Sales & Leasing (ex; Worldwide Aircraft Holding)
5. P4-FSH; Ernest Angley Ministries (ex; A6-SMM)
6. A4O-SO; Oman Royal Flight
7. N747A; NASA Armstrong Flight Research Center
8. N747NA; NASA SOFIA
9. HZ-HM1B; Saudi Royal Flight
10. HZ-HM1C; Saudi Royal Flight
11. HZ-AIF; Saudi Royal Flight
12. YI-ALM; Iraq
13. C-GTFF; Pratt & Whitney Engine Services
14. C-FPAW; Pratt & Whitney Engine Services
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I saw A4O-SO irl, it was once in Muscat Intl
Stradivarious.. Chinese Government use the B-2479 as the VIP..
@@ConcordeError404 lucky...🛫👍🏻
Japan also have used the 747 and have only just switched over.
828BA wasn't actually a BBJ (to my knowledge), rather it was slated to become D-ABYE for Lufthansa. Since it was used for more testing hours than LH had agreed upon, it was NTU by the airline and has sat at Victorville for the last 10 years. I guess a buyer was found just recently, so we'll have to wait and see what happens next
The thumbnail was great
The nose of a 747 is the best location to fly in any modern airliner by far. Perfect place for the owner's bedroom. The old first class cabins on all of the old 747s were beyond great! British Airways used to call the two front seats (1A and 1K) at the very nose of their 747's the "Mick Jagger's girlfriend" and "Mick Jagger" seats.
Myself becoming a 747 Airplane enthusiast, I think the 747 because of its size should think about using them as hospital airplanes because they have the size and they would hold hundreds of patients. This would be a good time during Some type of a war or pandemic but it is an option and I know that a 747 can be configured as such, if this type of plane is needed in aviation for hospitals.
As someone with very little medical or aviation training, I disagree that they would be a good hospital plane. I think hospital airplanes aren't really a great idea in the first place. Patients that need to be evacuated immediately probably can't fly and would need to be stabilized first. And once someone is stabilized enough to fly, they probably don't need to be evacuated that badly anymore.
Would probably only find use in some sort of super mass-cass event which would probably have enough inbound military transports that you could stuff the casualties onto those and fly them out.
@@FlightRecorder1 I think the idea is more similar to hospital ships, which aren't there for transportation of patients but to serve as mobile treatment suppliers. The only issue I could think of is that the 747 would need a lot of space to land, especially considering it would likely be limited to off airport use.
A 74 is a VERY large yet also very compact target, and you'd have to park it at one of a few airports in any country large enough to handle it - hoping that the runway or taxiways hadn't already been damaged. A C130 or a C17 packed to the gills with field hospitals can, at the expense of the time needed to rig it, land much more hospital in many more places while being far less concerned about ground conditions. A field hospital is also much easier to spread out in area to make attacks harder or to make the transmission of pathogens less easy. And as soon as they're dropped off you can a) remove the vulnerable machine from the area to reduce risk of damage/loss and b) use the machine for something else, which would decrease the operational expenses immensely. A parked 74 is still going to cost a lot of money.
Hitching a ride with the military also means you don't have to worry about all the ground handling stuff at an out-of-service field, which itself could be a substantial cost
I think that's actually an interesting idea that could be explored further.
We have already have medical planes but on a smaller scale I think this could work in wars and disasters that have high casualties
I can see a hotel as an option. Check in. Main deck has rooms with en-suite along length on both sides of narrow corridor. Front of main deck is cinema, where passengers also sit for take off and landing. Lower deck is kitchen, dining room (with windows looking diagonally down), luggage store. Upper deck is main lounge.
Great for long flights, including those which stop on the way for refuelling and drop-off/pick up passengers.
It's a good idea, and they always talk about amenities like that when a new big plane is revealed, then they never come to market as people don't want to pay the cost of having a superjumbo with so few passengers flying. They'd rather save a few thousand pounds/dollars/euros on the flight (where they spend a number of hours) and spend that on the rest of the trip (e.g. a better hotel, or a longer stay).
The only plane that has come close to what you're suggesting is the handful of A380s with first-class rooms and suites on them, but even that is a select few planes and far from the hotel-like qualities originally promised at the launch.
@@donkmeister my thinking is that there are lots of 747s and some A380s out there but with fewer passengers.
KLM refitted one as an AirBnB a few years ago. I can't remember if it was a 747 though
With such a large market, I am surprised the Air Force has not dusted off the plans for a flying "aircraft carrier" and make a fleet of 747's as launch vehicles for drone fighters and bombers
my favourite 747 jet is the iron maiden boeing 747-400 ed force one
You didn’t mention my country, Qatar. Our head of state uses a modified 747-8i as his own plane. It has the Qatar airways’ logo but there’s no passenger 747 owned by Qatar airways.
i live near LAX and i've seen it parked on the runway twice over the past couple years.
Perhaps the most extreme 747 modification is the Scaled Composites Model 351 Stratolaunch. It uses most of two 747s to make a twin boom, six-engine behemoth to launch orbital rockets from high altitude. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_Composites_Stratolaunch
It can’t even be called a 747 modification anymore
Call it a 1594
Japan also operated between 1991 and 2019 2x B747-400s as VIP aircraft. Registration 20-1101 und 20-1102.
Can we talk about how you nailed that name @ 6:05
Cool love it
I could quite easily see humanitarian causes using Cargo Modified 747's to carry supplies and heavy machinery into remote areas, particularly in Africa.
Along the same line, I could see 747s being fitted out as flying hospitals.
ORBIS does thing with a DC-10.
Good luck finding a runway that can handle a 747 in remote Africa
@@keegang2024 747's land on Ice down in Antarctica. You just need a long stretch of clear, flat land. Might need to modify the landing gear slightly to allow for more shocks and bumps at high speed, but it's definitely doable.
What you are describing is a C-17
I would have liked to see the full layout of the Saudi Prince's plane. It was mentioned that the lower cargo hold was converted to a car garage and Turkish bath. That I would like to see. People taking a sauna with a couple Rolls Royce's parked at 35,000 feet. LOL
If i had musk money id have a BBJ 747. The ultimate RV.
I'd get 747 BBBJs.
The Private Wide body quadjet, honestly, is already won by Boeing
Its like Lockheed and Douglas, Douglas had some in hand experience on passenger planes so their DC-10 (before crashes ofc) knocked off the L-1011 quite quickly
Here too, the 747 has been a private jet for a good amount of time now, so it can edge off A380's easily
To be honest, if I was filthy rich I’d go for the A-380. Entirely because nobody else has done it. Not for it’s size, not for its range, not for the impression it would make… entirely just because it would be a first.
Limited runways though
I’ve already got to see several private/governmental 747s: An SP, a 300 as well as several 400s and 8s! I still need to see the VC-25As in person :D
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I live in south-central PA... We get to see the VC-25's on a regular basis because the crews come up to Harrisburg Int'l (formerly Olmstead AFB) to shoot approaches here. When the wind is out of the west, I live pretty much on the base leg of the approach pattern and they shoot the pattern at fairly low altitudes. It really is something to see. I know that they also like to practice shorter field landings at Yeager Airport in Charleston, WV, and it's something to see a big 747 gliding into the mountaintop airport there.
You're like... my hero, dude.
They are a sight to see, my elementary school was more or less down the road from the airport, more specifically the one end of one of the runways, (There were airport entrances less than a few minutes walk down the street, granted they are mainly private and military entrances) and we happened to be out at recess during their scheduled landing time so we got to see them approach for landing, couldn't actually see them land because of some trees in the way, and then later that day I was outside when they took off (I also lived very close to the airport then, I live even closer now) so I got to see them both effectively landing and taking off.
And I just found out I get another chance on the 13th
I want a private SpaceX Starship to go on solar system tours
For someone who no longer flies , i find these luxuries truly refreshing, 😂😂😂😂😂
I love the kalitta livery. They fly over my house all the time
So Proud to see an SAA 747
Thank you boeing ,afdal
I would take a 747 and turn it into a house
Brilliant. That would be a $420 millions house. The envy of the neighborhood!
My favorite B747 was the Alitalia...beautiful colors.
As a business jet the 747 and other widebody jets makes sense, for taking multiple rich people who work together to and from destinations. But if you want a private jet all for yourself anything larger than an A320 or 737 is just ridicolous imo even if you are the richest man on earth
It seems to ma that if you have a private 747, you shouldn’t need gold plated faucets to impress people. But you might well want some of the systems like Air Force 1 has. Someone might be jealous. I’m not talking just about the stuff built into the plane. Things like restricted airspace around you, a few fighters handy, maybe a AWACS or JSTARS or two. Now there’s real money. Stainless steel faucets are fine.
You think they would reject or do it for you but tell you not to say anything publicly about it? Interesting idea!
For private use the UHNI owner is restricted to major airports, as only they have the runway length and infrastructure to deal with such a large aircraft.
I want to know whether the Prince's Prayer room on the plane is on a rotating platform. Cuz he needs to be praying towards Mecca right? and the plane is in motion?
Ernest Angley's ministry once owned a 747sp. Saw once in Canton/Akron airport.
747 has now taken on a new role, water bomber to help combat massive forest fires! There is no job the 747 can't do! Carry a Space Shuttle to hauling heavy freight or carrying mass airlift rescue!
Might want to Google that plane
Yeah humanity mission, medical mission, rescue mission you name it. The queen is always there
it got decommissioned
@@kauvik7019 yeah, Global Supertanker 747-400. Now it went to National Airlines as a BCF.
Personally, I’d love to have a modified 747-8 fuselage without wings as a retirement home on an island in the middle of a remote lake!
or maybe convert it to some other drive or flight system (something other than normal wings and engines ?) and have it be a kind of 'flying tube' sort of aircraft ? a miniature sort of 'Dune Heighliner' style comes to my mind.
A hospital plane that could fly to disaster areas, and could carry some emergency supplies.
How is the stuff one puts on a private jet like this regulated? Do the beds, sofas, and TVs require special permits?
Everything is tested and FAA or comparable approved
6:33 - the largest washroom I have ever seen...!
I'm surprised the market is not at some medium size like the 321LR. I guess airliners at that size are too cramped and a widebody 787 or A350 makes more sense.
There's tons of 320 family business jets
You forgot to list the 757. Quite famous person has one
Honestly seems like a way better option. Cheaper and a lot more practical.
I saw the title of this video and immediately thought of Airport ‘77.
I would suggest the 747 conversion to a fire fighting tanker ( there is at least one already) Also the conversion of the 747-400 to airborne tankers should be explored.
It's dead. Not used any more
@@whiteandnerdytubawhat aircraft are you talking about? The tanker?
Doesn’t Japan also use special 747’s for head of state travel?
They used to, now they have a 777-300ER!
1:01 takeoff and steep climb
Camera angle makes it look like it's trying to become a rocket :D
Let’s not forget Iron Maiden’s 747!!!
Only reason to have your own plane is if you lived in it, and it could carry a car.
If you only use it to travel, then first class on commercial plane is better.
No love for Japan? They used a 747 for three decades to transport the prime minister and imperial family around up until the recent transition to 777s
The list only includes countries which currently operate the 747, the title of the list is misleading
Qatar Amiri fleet also includes 3 747-8BBJ🤔! I wonder why it was not mentioned.
I'm not an expert but there will probably be a lot of problems with the dual engine configuration in the future especially over oceans so it may not be the best idea to completely abandon other designs.
Dual engine configs have been flying safely over the oceans for well over a decade now. It's not a concern.
@@wayfaringman8418 you are right but there is always a chance of something going wrong no matter what engine configuration a plane has.
ETOPS
Nope, this hasn't been a concern for years. Twin engine jets can fly on only one engine as well.
with the new engine designs the 2 engine are less likely to break down than the 4 engine, and due to the new design they are way more eficient and fuel friendly
I plan on buying one with my lottery winnings as soon as I win. I think I'll go with the A380.
Now there is a private a380
A flying sweatshop!
What's the status of the six forner Qantas B747-400ER?
All stored in Mohave I think
You gonna talk about private 747 use and not Mention Iron Maiden's or John Travolta's?
John Travolta has a 707.
@@pahtar7189 ahhh good catch thanks dude
Did everyone forget iron maidens 747
My favourite still is the 747 Jumbo jet
Anyone converting the 747 into a hospital or mercy plane?
Why do that when you can have a weekend trip cause more pollution than a small city?
That would be really inefficient and incredibly expensive. You get vastly more out of a cargo 747 or C17 delivering 100+ tons of medical supplies. This sort of thing happens daily already.
Lol once the air force wanted to change the 747 into a flying aircraft carrier that carries mini fighter jets, not quite the mercy plane.
It is a dream of mine to own an old 747 and convert it into a luxury home 🖤
In any use, she is still the most beautiful aircraft in the sky. (Seconded only by the 707.)
i think i know what i want for my birthday
could an NGO use one or two as flying hospitals?
No. Nothing is allowed to happen, ever.
Long haul by simple flying,please do a collab with simple flying
Long Haul by Simple Flying is part of the Simple Flying Channel 😊✈️ - LR
@@LongHaulbySimpleFlying this is a joke btw
Like people asking drew durnil to have a collab with druwuu(drew durnil second channel)
Plane go brrrrr
Mine's on order
Ok so where do you talk about logistics?
I have a private 747, it’s ok.
@@rockyraccoon3630 I know Lowe’s had a 10% off coupon with free shipping.
a private 747 is top 3 things every child dreams of having once they become a billionaire
Im not sure if the skipping the in-flight refueling capability on the new USAF presidential aircraft was a good idea. But if the US Secret Service signed off on that decision, then they must not truly need the feature.
But smaller jets can land at small fields near the target, the big jets make logistics annoying
People/governments that own VVIP 747s usually also own a smaller jet as well for just that reason.
There was absolutely no logistics in this video.
Such a blatant clickbait.
lets make a video with random footage showing no interior at all, almost
It’s hard to get any footage as the owners aren’t to camera friendly when it comes to showing their flying palaces. We for example also don’t know much about the interiors of their mansions
Perfect for ecoswine
Perfect follow me in a KC. If I never touch the ground again it would be too soon;)
Una semplice curiosità : TEORICAMENTE SAREBBE POSSIBILE COSTRUIRE UN BOEING 747 DI DIMENSIONI DOPPIE ? RISPETTO ALLE DIMENSIONI COMUNI.....
I've worked it out with Boeing and I'm having a REALLY big plane built for traveling parties. How big? Let's just say I've had a bit of a chin wag with the NFL and we're doing the 2038 Super Bowl on the lower deck. Affording tickets on the 50 yard line will be a bit of a bugger.
Didn't Japan use 2 747's , before the 777 update
Yes, they used to
Skip to 5:50 or so for the main subject
Japan had 2 VIP 747 for the Emperor and Prime Minister
Additional wild land fire fighting around the world
as with the other jets now sitting in graveyards in the SW
It make a good artificial reef
putting out Forrest fires?
Boeing E-4B which is a 747-200 has refueling capability, and they used it all the time
Too bad no mention of Ed Force One, Iron Maiden’s 747, piloted by Bruce himself!
This is astounding! With such poverty in the world, how could they do this? Flying palaces, really?
Cool
Yes there is an a380 privatly own, a d this long before this video was published. Good to know you are one of those making video without checking what shit you say.
The order was transferred to an airline and it was never equipped for private use. Check you facts
I think the Gulf states have private A380.
Sup
I had ordered 747-8 and similar 2 Numbers A380-800 Plus as BBJ, myself is the first owner for A380-800PLUS for BBJ.
Private jets come in all shapes and sizes.... except they shouldn't.
private a380 isn't useful because of limited supported airports
Am I the only one triggered by the narrator saying "seven four seven eight" instead of "seven four seven dash eight"
Don't UAE princes have a380 private jets?
No, he ordered it but it was cancelled
Turkish president have a bigger plane than US, 747-8, plus Airbus 330, Airbus 340, Airbus 319, GulfS. 450, GulfS 550 ,2 VIP Sikorsky Helicopters, 10 Airbus400M's. imagine that ? how Rich is Turkey?
thought there was a private a380 no?
No, the order was cancelled long before the aircraft could be even built
And yet there are people still starving to death.
I rather have a two seater f 16.
It is utterly unpractical to get such a massive plane as a private jet. The costs the bankrupt a multi millionaire and you can’t land on small strips
A whole video about a private 747, but not a single image of the interior of any 747 🤔
What is this video getting at aside from asking our time?
I don’t think many owners of VIP 747s are like "come in, I’ll show you around"
The 747 would make a great flying hospital that could be flown into emergency locations and provide medical care.
Vip boeing 747-8'scobar pa al maktoum international airport✈
It's awesome but what a rediculous waste of fuel 😆 crazy how people live when money is no object