When good preachers get it wrong

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  • @paulgemme6056
    @paulgemme6056 Před 2 lety +22

    Good message - I am an old man ( 61 ). God revealed his love for me and I received his free gift of eternal life by grace through faith ( got saved ) on Nov. 17, 1977. The older I get and the more I grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ the more I realize that I am just a stupid man when it comes to knowing it all, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. AMAZING GRACE !!!

    • @paulgemme6056
      @paulgemme6056 Před 2 lety +2

      @@skippy675 Hebrews 9:27
      And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
      Saved from the penalty of sin; outer darkness, total isolation for all eternity. Separated from our creator who is the truth, the light, unconditional love, unfailing love, everlasting love, perfect love.
      We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Born that way but we do not have to die that way ( in our sin ). Jesus Christ died to set us free from the penalty of sin. Believers will be saved, unbelievers will die in their sinful condition and suffer for all eternity.

    • @paulgemme6056
      @paulgemme6056 Před 2 lety +1

      @@skippy675 Man is not basically good. You do not have to teach a child how to lie and say; "no I did not steal a cookie from the cookie jar". Instead we have to teach the child how to tell the truth. Lying is a sin and it comes naturally. Have you ever lied ? If you say you have never lied your a liar. Everyone has lied. Everyone has sinned.
      That's why Jesus Christ went to the cross and died so that we might live ( be forgiven ).
      John 11:25
      Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

    • @paulgemme6056
      @paulgemme6056 Před 2 lety

      The message that man is vile, evil, sinful was drilled into my head but not with words, instead with actions along with words. Because this message was constantly being pumped into my brain as I was growing up when I got older began to question if there was a place in existence that was not vile, evil, sinful.
      You see where I'm going with this ?
      Look around you and tell me that this world we live in is not vile, evil, and sinful.
      The world is the way it is because of the heart of man. Vile, evil, and sinful.
      There is only one man ( God/man ) who has been born into this world who does not have a vile, evil, sinful nature. Christ Jesus, who died to set us free because there is a place where there is no evil, no sin.
      Jesus Christ is the only way to get there.
      John 14:6
      Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
      Hebrews 11:1
      Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    • @paulgemme6056
      @paulgemme6056 Před 2 lety

      @@skippy675 Just a dumb sheep with Jesus as my Shepherd. The Good Shepherd. Satan is the god of this world, that's why there are so many false religions, false teachers, wolves in sheep clothing. Knowing and loving Jesus Christ is not a religion it's way of life ( Eternal Life ).
      2 Corinthians 4:4
      In whom the god of this world ( satan ) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
      I pray that the light of Christ shines in your heart today and opens your mind to the truth. Those who refuse to believe have their minds blinded by the father of lies ( satan ). God our creator says so.
      2 Corinthians 4:4
      John 8:44
      Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
      -Jesus

    • @paulgemme6056
      @paulgemme6056 Před 2 lety

      @@skippy675 The difference is Jesus Christ is not dead. Jesus Lives !! That's the difference between religion and relationship. Relationship with our creator ( God/Jesus/Holy Spirit ) only comes by being born of the Spirit.
      That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
      Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
      Ask God/Jesus to reveal himself ( truth ) to you and mean it. God's Grace is Amazing. Anyone who comes to him and is willing to repent ( change one's way of thinking ) can be saved.
      Eternity is a long time. Some people desire to be in a place of peace and joy. Jesus already paid for your ticket all you have to do is believe and yes Lord, I believe.
      For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
      Not of works, lest any man should boast.

  • @2wheelz3504
    @2wheelz3504 Před 2 lety +25

    This man thinks biblically. I like his approach to Scripture. It is balanced.

  • @thomasthepromise8430
    @thomasthepromise8430 Před 2 lety +44

    There are times when I'm searching through my past sermon notes and come across something with which I don't agree. Talk about humbling, but that's part of growing and evolving in our faith. I just pray that God sends someone behind me to clean up any messes I've made. Good video.

    • @ministeraddison2521
      @ministeraddison2521 Před 2 lety +2

      I do sometimes go through my sermons and be like, whoa

    • @woofbark4475
      @woofbark4475 Před 2 lety +4

      And not many should desire to be teachers

    • @randywalker2564
      @randywalker2564 Před 2 lety +1

      Paul the Apostle was the champion of all Christians. I don't think he got anything wrong because he said he got the Gospel directly from The Lord.

    • @deedaniel201
      @deedaniel201 Před 2 lety +1

      @@randywalker2564 Do you think Paul sometimes spoke of himself when he would say "I, not the Lord"?

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n Před rokem +1

      You should be humble enough to clean up your own mess.

  • @flowersnpearls8179
    @flowersnpearls8179 Před 2 lety +66

    Thank you for this, Brother. It is an honest, no nonsense attitude toward preachers and teachers, especially well respected and recognized men of God. It is our duty to remember that they are fallible men, susceptible to error. As I read and study the bible, delighting in His Word, the Spirit gives me discernment so that alarm bells go off when these men say something that doesn’t mesh with scripture. We should not be afraid to say, “That’s not right” and then to go back to the Word to check it out. Thank you again for this encouraging message.

    • @LovelovelyJesus
      @LovelovelyJesus Před 2 lety +2

      I'm Not sure I disagree with Tony Evans if one is to consider Abram before God changed His name to Abraham. He was a pagan in a pagan land who never heard of God but God showed up Himself in a vision to Him and revealed Himself. Only problem is if the vision or dream does not align with the Gospel, God's Plan of Salvation and is not sound Bible doctrine because that is how Cults got started with counterfeit dreams and visions. But Jesus is NOT limited in extreme cases on how He can reach out and save someone in a foreign land who never heard of the Gospel or Jesus the Christ.

    • @Jonnycuttcorners
      @Jonnycuttcorners Před 2 lety

      Well said.

    • @neilhorsley343
      @neilhorsley343 Před 2 lety

      Whether it's right or wrong we still need to check these things are so, or we be foolish believers accepting everything, the example of the boreans is thus mentioned possible with this in mind

    • @robinriley1136
      @robinriley1136 Před 2 lety

      We have to do it in love and not bust them out, do it secretly not openly to cause harm

    • @neilhorsley343
      @neilhorsley343 Před 2 lety +1

      Those showing biblically they deserve it may be respected an trusted as true men of God.
      Others pretending to be men of God but only seek to deceive many or gain finance from those who have non, do not deserve any respect and need to be dealt with by a congregation elder overseers qualified in scriptural things to encourage them to put any wicked ways aside or be disfellowshipped and thrown out into the cold damp dark outside if not genuinely being repentant.

  • @kathysmith9526
    @kathysmith9526 Před 2 lety +20

    LETS RESPECT THOSE THAT GET CLOSE TO INTERPRETATION OF THE WORD AND ALSO SEARCH OURSELVES AND FIND OUR UNDERSTANDING IN HIS WORD AND THROUGH PRAYER

  • @jeromedabney7158
    @jeromedabney7158 Před 2 lety +22

    Not even the best of preachers are right 100%

  • @IronMatt
    @IronMatt Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for the video. We all need to keep perspective and everyone gets it wrong sometimes. We are not a perfect church but we serve a perfect Savior. God bless you brother.

  • @doriskame3425
    @doriskame3425 Před 2 lety +2

    The only one who never made a mistake was Jesus our Lord. I admire you for explaining everything in a humble but straight forward way. God bless your ministry.!!!!!

  • @mycol8455
    @mycol8455 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you so much for your time and work on this video...we read in Acts (And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.)
    Acts of the Apostles 17:11 NLT
    Bless you Pastor, I love the spirit in which you are drawing from....😇

  • @beehive9851
    @beehive9851 Před 2 lety +6

    God bless you brother. This was an excellent critique and commentary done in a very loving and humble way, yet communicated correction and truth that I believe is biblical and sound. Thank you!

  • @aaron8229
    @aaron8229 Před 2 lety

    I’m so glad that I found your channel! Thank you for your sound and unbiased insights. Appreciate you! God bless 🙏

  • @poloresanderson8916
    @poloresanderson8916 Před rokem +2

    I appreciate your honesty...no one knows everything about the gospel

  • @brendawilliams3197
    @brendawilliams3197 Před 2 lety +6

    Thank you so much for this video. It has cleared up a lot for me. No one is perfect and I was beginning to think these men were infallible, however I still believe they are anointed teachers. However it is not what 'they' say it's about what God's Word says.🙏🏾
    Thank you again.

  • @jamiebadour6555
    @jamiebadour6555 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you my brother-in-Christ Jesus! You are so right and I thank God for you giving this encouraging teaching! May God bless you and keep you in His power and give you His grace and wisdom to continue to be bold in being a witness for Christ and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ!

  • @yvonnerobert-carr8809
    @yvonnerobert-carr8809 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for sharing this! This video is the balance that is sometimes missing among us who believe on our Lord.

  • @christinagrooms510
    @christinagrooms510 Před rokem

    Just wanted to say I'm so glad to have found this channel! Thank you

  • @Kelly_Silverman
    @Kelly_Silverman Před 2 lety +34

    With so many different views on the end times, it's going to be interesting to see how it all goes down! 😀

    • @neilhorsley343
      @neilhorsley343 Před 2 lety +2

      It's also going to be scary and dangerous

    • @SpotterVideo
      @SpotterVideo Před 2 lety +2

      Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.

    • @susanabbott5643
      @susanabbott5643 Před 2 lety

      @@neilhorsley343 p

    • @neilhorsley343
      @neilhorsley343 Před 2 lety

      @@susanabbott5643 whats that mean😃

    • @song4night
      @song4night Před 2 lety

      Tony Evans asks a lot for donations.

  • @donsimonds5186
    @donsimonds5186 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh thank you brother, that's so refreshing to hear someone say the words, I don't know. You are so on point with that. I've always done that, will not always but as I've grown I have learned to do that, I know what the word has revealed and what it hasn't revealed I don't know only God knows. For example, well someone that was a Christian and fell into drug use and debauchery for years and years and then on his deathbed he repented , will he be in heaven, I don't know only God knows. And I let it go at that and thank you brother for reinforcing that and let me know if I'm off in any spot cuz I'm always open to be corrected.

  • @hudsonbartley2493
    @hudsonbartley2493 Před 2 lety +10

    "The best of men are men at best". It has been said, and it is a true saying.

    • @randystevens1690
      @randystevens1690 Před 2 lety

      So, is that Scripture, or just worldly sayings

    • @aliciamcdonald7105
      @aliciamcdonald7105 Před 2 lety

      @@randystevens1690 Doesn't make it less true

    • @randystevens1690
      @randystevens1690 Před 2 lety

      @@aliciamcdonald7105 God's Holy Word, makes a big difference

    • @aliciamcdonald7105
      @aliciamcdonald7105 Před 2 lety

      @@randystevens1690 Indeed but AGAIN that does not make the above statement less true. In fact I can say that when the bible says that there is NONE RIGHTEOUS NO NOT ONE and all our righteousness are as filthy rags that they support what the commenter said.

    • @randystevens1690
      @randystevens1690 Před 2 lety

      @@aliciamcdonald7105 I don't want to be a discouragement to you, but an encouragement. Please read 1 Corinthians 1: 17-31, I can understand the meaning of the comment we are talking about, but please, understand where my heart is. You are very precious, I love you, and want the best in life for you. I loss my oldest daughter to suicide, and then my oldest son to drug overdose just within a couple months apart, and I have a hard time with people who just gives worldly quotes, and not dealing with what a struggling man is really going through life is, and it's just off the top of his head. God bless you and your family and friends Amen.

  • @riacalitz14
    @riacalitz14 Před 2 lety +1

    Pastor,thank you for being real,rational and honest,it is really appreciated. I can absolutely relate to your reasoning.You say everything in love and not in condemnation.You calm spirit brings peace of mind in a chaotic world where everyone thinks that they're right.There is always room for error, but we should be willing to stand corrected ánd be teachable because that is the Christian way.Much love from South Africa.

  • @lincomgeng5007
    @lincomgeng5007 Před 2 lety +13

    May God bless your heart for your biblically-based words and full of Christian wisdom!

  • @LovelovelyJesus
    @LovelovelyJesus Před 2 lety +8

    Very Good topic on here. This Channel came up on my Auto Play for the first time and I'm glad it did. Good to see someone address how the best Preachers can make mistakes or miss it but their key main tenets of their Bible teaching should be sound doctrine and Biblically correct theology. The only infallible one is God = Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
    Sure would have like to see someone discuss how many Evangelical leaders ventured into political idolatry, especially in the last election. Some Evangelical leaders and their wayward flocks seemed to have projected the idolatrous speech and behavior that Jesus abdicated His Throne and gave it to Trump. Not a good look to a lost and dying world in need of God's Plan of Salvation because Politics cannot save, redeem or transform a single person. Jesus Saves and is the only one who can transform and rescue whosoever calls upon His name and trust Him as their Lord & Savior.
    Concerning Tony Evans, I did not know he gave a sermon that God would allow those who never heard of Jesus to enter into Heaven if they had a yearning for God in their heart? This could make sense if Tony Evans cited Abraham as His example because Abram never heard of the Gospel or Jesus either and started out as a pagan in a pagan land but God Himself showed up and revealed Himself to Abraham. The Bible gave NO indication Abraham was even seeking God before God showed up in His life and blessed him as a great nation.
    I've also read where some Muslims had dreams of Jesus when they were in a region that never heard of the Bible or Jesus. God is not limited to a person or Missionary because He can use Dreams and Vision, or just show up Himself and give them His Plan of Salvation = The Good News Gospel but one has to be careful that it is Not a counterfeit different Gospel or vision because that is how Cults and other 1800 century false religions got started.

  • @fightingchristian4931
    @fightingchristian4931 Před 2 lety +16

    Even the best of preachers get it wrong which is funny when you consider all of these people on CZcams who have nothing but criticism for others as though they never get it wrong

  • @charlespackwood
    @charlespackwood Před 2 lety +7

    I'm amazed that people who are so brilliant in things can be blind to something else that is seemingly obvious. Humbling.

  • @joanneaming7922
    @joanneaming7922 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your heart and where you are coming from. We are to check the script for ourselves.

  • @auh2o148
    @auh2o148 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice video. This is why it is so important to study to show yourself approved. It is also why we aren't to lean fully on another human. This walk is not about being comfortable and hitting cruise control, it's about walking every step out to our own salvation. In the debate over which bible version to use, I suggest everyone begin with an Interlinear so you can at least see what the scriptures say in their original text (or as original as we can get anyway). Many misunderstandings can be cleared up by looking at the hebrew, aramaic or greek.

  • @paulakapablo1749
    @paulakapablo1749 Před 2 lety +1

    I just stumbled across your channel. I loved your analysis, subscribed and look forward to hearing more. Keep fighting the good fight.

  • @ericamulondo210
    @ericamulondo210 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for your courage. These amazing men of God are still fallible and its Christ we follow not man. I respect your views

  • @paulbaran4796
    @paulbaran4796 Před 2 lety +2

    Brother, I agree. God’s ways and thoughts are higher. When it comes to salvation and living the Christian life, I believe the Holy Spirit through the scriptures, leads us in the right direction. We get caught up in things we cannot fully understand. We are finite, aren’t we?!

  • @perrypointer4670
    @perrypointer4670 Před 2 lety +3

    I appreciate your approach, it places emphasis on scriptural context as opposed to theology. Remember, there was a time when no one would dare to publish their comments on the same page as scripture. There was a time when there was no expectation on Christians to read the books of theologians. The emphasis was scripture. Nowadays, every theologian out there are writing books and encouraging people to read them. They write books with hundreds of pages on topics the bible cover in a few sentences or paragraphs. Sadly, many of the same people can't seem to finish reading their bible.

    • @hudsonbartley2493
      @hudsonbartley2493 Před 2 lety

      Absolutely... Loooool. And ywt still, thdre are so many passages of scriptures which they comment on in a few lines of wfiting, or none at all, even.

  • @fullofgraceandtruth85
    @fullofgraceandtruth85 Před 2 lety

    This was a great illustration of God’s wisdom displayed in your favor. I remember when I was incarcerated and I had time to study the word 7 to 8 hours A-day and even all night and I would listen to some of my favorite pastors and I realize that they maybe sincere but sometimes when it comes to scripture they may be a little bit off but I do agree we all get Somethings wrong at some time. When I was a babe in Christ I believed certain things until I grew in the word and begin to understand more and it changed my thoughts about what I believed and challenged me through scripture. I've been listening to you for about 90 days or so and I really like your videos and I respect your points on the scripture. Continue to be blessed and allow God to use you in a mighty way....! Blessings!

  • @tonylewis509
    @tonylewis509 Před rokem

    Very informative!!!..Thank you bro. Corey 👍🏾

  • @johnahearn3931
    @johnahearn3931 Před 2 lety

    Brother just want to let you know I appreciate you and the podcast

  • @jasminesmith5447
    @jasminesmith5447 Před 2 lety +1

    Jonah thinking he can run away from God is one of the funniest things in the Bible, lol. I laugh when I think about it because God is literally everywhere, so you can't run away from God! I know that had nothing to do with your video but you did mention Jonah earlier and that was what came to mind.

  • @garybarry7058
    @garybarry7058 Před rokem +1

    Excellent my brother I love your honesty God bless you keep the good work for christ

  • @thecosmicprime
    @thecosmicprime Před 2 lety +1

    Everyone thinks that the other view than theirs is wrong, humility is the key. Good message.

  • @michaelhelton2276
    @michaelhelton2276 Před 2 lety +8

    Great job sir, I agree with you! I'm very thankful for John McArthur and Voddie Bauchum but I disagree with them on the same points, but that doesn't keep me from listening to them.

    • @smartchristians
      @smartchristians  Před 2 lety +5

      That shouldn’t keep you from listening to them. If we stopped listening to anyone who got something wrong, we’d have no one to listen to

    • @lindacamacho1567
      @lindacamacho1567 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree. Don't think I have ever listened to anyone whom I have agreed with 100%. I still listen to them, and use discernment.

    • @unwmk
      @unwmk Před 2 lety

      @@smartchristians that’s a true n powerful statement my brother!

    • @achildsheart4658
      @achildsheart4658 Před 2 lety

      @@LovelovelyJesus agreed

    • @aliciamcdonald7105
      @aliciamcdonald7105 Před 2 lety

      Indeed it should not. I personally LOVE to listen to TD Jakes and have found a lot of what he preaches to be PROFUND but I do not agree with him on a number of issues. Wont stop me from listening to him.

  • @genesis6422
    @genesis6422 Před 2 lety +4

    It's all about discernment. 🙏💙🙏

  • @beverlysheppard3147
    @beverlysheppard3147 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video I really enjoyed how you brought out mistakes without condemning them. It really helped me, like Moses made mistakes, and it was YAH that corrected him.

  • @Makeitmakesensejo
    @Makeitmakesensejo Před 2 lety

    Thank you...I once asked a question and the pastor got a attitude because he didn't know the answer. In the 20+ yrs of organized religion I've not seen many pastors humble for real.
    And...some of the tongue talking people have a very superior attitude ... Yahshua brought me out 2 yrs ago. I have no church affiliation been blessed ever since. Thanks again for bringing some clarity

  • @patanthony9286
    @patanthony9286 Před 2 lety +1

    The message that was taught by you is definitely clear truth with no errors except for the coffee cup, the Spirit is clearly your leader, guide, and teacher. When self is denied then the Spirit of Holiness separates us to God the Father and Christ Jesus and what we speak is pleasing to God due to the fact that God is speaking through us by the Spirit of truth and conviction.

  • @user-ru2bf2ob1h
    @user-ru2bf2ob1h Před 2 lety

    Brother thank you so much for this.I am brought to heart that we as God’s children and Christ followers should except Jesus as Lord. We should also give our Heavenly Father the absolute authority to do, to speak, to touch, to feel in whatever way he deems necessary to move in our lives. As the scripture say we exist for Him. With merciful grace we should always approach each other as the living temple of God with sincere humility in gratitude that we get to speak of His goodness. I am conscious to believe “everything will be laid bare before the eyes of Him whom we must give an account and we as Christians are to work out our own salvation with trembling and fear being hard-pressed on all sides to become those diamonds that shine through eternity

  • @realchristianmusicchannele9532

    This is a great lesson and reminder that your preacher is never going to be correct 100% of the time and it doesn't make them a false teacher.
    I'm going to put this on my channel brother.

  • @georgeakoto6589
    @georgeakoto6589 Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome. .... good content. I have been enjoying your youtube channel from Ghana. More grace brother and keep it up.
    All the same , I agree with Voddie Baucham on eschatology. I am convince that the amil hermeneurics as used by him and others like Sam Storms, GK Beele, Joel Beeke, Anthony Hoekema etc are much more faithful to the text.
    All the covenant promise are yes and amen in Christ. Jesus is the fulfilment of the Davidic promise. There are only two ages in the Bible. This age and the age to come.

  • @Jonnycuttcorners
    @Jonnycuttcorners Před 2 lety +4

    Appreciate this! I think where MacArthur was coming from was the “and” in revelation. A person who does this AND does that AND etc. Not that I’m suggesting anyone take the mark but… if the mark condemns u to hell then the non believers can send anyone to hell that they please. Hold someone down and give them mark and voila…hypothetically speaking. I don’t think he would recommend or condone it but we have no idea what the mark is yet or if someone can force it on a person. Stay strong brothers and sisters. We certainly seem to be close.

  • @OkayMaybeImDoneNow...
    @OkayMaybeImDoneNow... Před 2 lety

    When you said, in the beginning "And then you go to the New Testament" it was a bit funny😅man, I love how you are passionate about the Gospel. I think I heard you say once that you were once in prison. I thank God that He has been in your life to lead you to help so many people find Him and the truth. May God bless your ministry and may you continue to be about the business about the truth in Yahshua.

  • @cyntheamiller8624
    @cyntheamiller8624 Před 2 lety +1

    You are so right. I believe that to about once a person takes the mark is totally lost

  • @raymondlivingstonjr9118

    You did a great job on this teaching and the one before this. Thanks for correcting me on some of those scriptures from some of my favorite teachers. I agree with your assessment and thing your doing a great job.

  • @garybarry7058
    @garybarry7058 Před rokem +1

    Big up .thank you very wise assessment

  • @ma.filmajayme4631
    @ma.filmajayme4631 Před 2 lety +2

    Bro. Cory, you sharing this gives me a lot of encouragement... thanks for being trying to be balanced..

  • @eddiesblacksmithingkjv9185

    I agree with Justin Peter's. Hebrews says how God speaks to man. He does it through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Word. He speaks to us through his Word. The bible is the word.

    • @elmerfriessen1462
      @elmerfriessen1462 Před 2 lety

      Me to.
      I mean really , how do you know when God talks to you ,I like how Justin put it in one of his sermons “was it God , or was it me , or was it the pizza I ate at supper”.

    • @smartchristians
      @smartchristians  Před 2 lety +1

      Be sure not to conflate the two “Words”. Jesus being the Word in John is not the same as the written Word of God. Altogether different words. One is the γραφή which is the scriptures whereas John refers to λόγος an utterance or message. The writer of Hebrews does not say that God has spoken to us through his γραφή (scriptures) since at the time of the writing, there was no completed canon and the scriptures that were written were few and not many had access to them.

  • @MikeAcousticMusic
    @MikeAcousticMusic Před 5 měsíci

    Very good
    I see gentleness kindness and respect in your analysis. Thank God for that.
    "You can be right ---for the wrong reasons", this is gold! Amen and amen.
    My good friend and former pastor would say, "you have to chew up to me and spit out the bones".
    We are men, and God alone cannot err. Scripture says, "let every man be found a liar and God be found true." While we must understand this is saying two things, men make errors in even doctrine that "we know in part and we prophesy in part"
    And lastly, God alone stands alone incomplete perfection and never changes.
    I have a saying that the ditches on both side of the road are wide, and the path is perfectly narrow. It's one Man wide, it is Christ-Wide.
    It is Christ wide. We follow him alone. Our Good Shepherd needs no border collies.

  • @kevincarney1984
    @kevincarney1984 Před 2 lety

    Excellent commentary! How true it is that even the wisest of saints sometimes get it wrong. No one is right 100% of the time except the Lord. There’s room for disagreement on secondary issues. There’s an old saying that has been attributed to one of the ancient patriarchs. Unity and essentials liberty and nonessentials and in all things charity.

  • @orangeandslinky
    @orangeandslinky Před rokem

    Really enjoyed this.

  • @kimwestwood8840
    @kimwestwood8840 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoy your videos my brother. I am a new subscriber . God bless you sir

  • @PastorBillwillard2147
    @PastorBillwillard2147 Před 2 lety +8

    God speaks to us through His Word, through the Church family and many times our circumstances. Fact is God does not need to speak audibly any longer since His Revelation to Humanity has been and will be fulfilled. All we need to know even about the future has already been communicated by God prophetically.

  • @johnburke2134
    @johnburke2134 Před 2 lety

    I agree with you brother God bless you in Jesus name

  • @dianeodonnell9138
    @dianeodonnell9138 Před 2 lety

    Love these four preachers…. thank you for this video…. helps to clarify for sure!

  • @mandyc498
    @mandyc498 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this video, I agree with this!!
    I love all of these teachers and listen to them all every day, but I also disagree with these points of Peters, Voddie, MacArthur. Im not sure if I agree or disagree with Evans. I like the thought of both views on that point. Great video sir, I completely agree with everything you said.

  • @monike9782
    @monike9782 Před 2 lety

    I love everyone of these men, some more then others. Pastor MacArthur is my absolute favorite on this list. I agree with your video 100%, and I love the purpose of this video. I have grown so much over the years through Bible study, study of the Greek and Hebrew, and listening to sound teachers. It is a mistake to believe that anyone apart from Christ is perfect. Thank you for your video. I'm subscribing for more.

  • @cdavid6437
    @cdavid6437 Před 2 lety +2

    None of us are perfect including yourself! our role is to build up the body of Christ.

  • @izzyluna4044
    @izzyluna4044 Před 2 lety

    Very well put my brother and sensible. Ultimately we must read the bible for ourselves.

  • @kramsdrawde8159
    @kramsdrawde8159 Před 2 lety

    "I am not sure" or "I need to investigate" or " I DON'T KNOW" are all acceptable and honest answers. YOU ARE right brother we should avoid answers based from opinion or something we may have studied out years prior but reasons for our thoughts previously may have changed due to greater understanding of scripture ( better hermanuetics) or languages in which they are written... Humility should be a gold standard to any servant, great or small. I never try not judge the entirity of ministry on escateological views becuase to KNOW is to be in it, then you will KNOW, as ezekiel says repeatidly. Maranatha brothers, may the LOVE of CHRIST lead you into increasing truth of his word, the true WORD of our creator, the Holy Bible !!!

  • @contendforthefaithbysamuel4546

    This is a very balanced approach to addressing, when we as ministers, pastor's, teachers, sometimes have a belief or position, about certain things taught in scripture, that are not clearly stated or supported by scripture. John MacArthurs belief that person who receives the mark of the beast, can still be saved is a classic example of this, since Revelation. 20: 9-11 clearly state this is not the case!
    Voddie Baucham sounds more like he disagrees with the Rapture doctrine, scripture is very clear however, that there will be a literal thousand year reign of Christ on earth! Revelation. 20:4-6
    These examples are decidedly different from a person that consistently teaches doctrines, that deny one or more essentials of the historic christian world view, that is the mark of a false teacher!
    Great biblical observation!

  • @beatricejegede530
    @beatricejegede530 Před 2 lety +13

    When Justin peters said God is no more speaking,he means there is no more revelations and dialoquing like He(GOD) did with Moses and the prophet as the times of old. The work of human redemption has been completed with the birth,death and resurrection of Christ. Christ is the Word and he has told us how we must conduct our selves and even promised to remind us all he had taught us. The book of revelation also made things plain no new message as regards salvation. To hear God,read His word and read with all deligence and the Lord will be talking go you directly. I think he is referring to audible voice with real presence let me the burning bush . For me I know o es you get the mark of the beast such a person has lost his eternity I did agree with Jmac on that.

    • @jchino7589
      @jchino7589 Před 2 lety

      @@jaysturges9896 wait so God is a woman?

    • @jchino7589
      @jchino7589 Před 2 lety

      @@jaysturges4724 yea that wasn't actually "God" that was a demon that came to you

    • @jaysturges9896
      @jaysturges9896 Před 2 lety

      @@jchino7589 explain why. Because it helped me out in my life by revealing a secret to me. Thx

  • @gunnerhiro394
    @gunnerhiro394 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this video. Some people believe Once Saved Always Saved. I told someone who believed this (because he was someone who thought his way was the ONLY way), that there are more verses that say you CAN lose your salvation. He responded "Oh, so u think can LOSE your salvation"? I said I didn't know BUT shouldn't we always be SURE by putting God first - ALSO there COULD be other ways to look at things - and BACKING it up with verses. He told me you CAN'T pick and choose to prove your narrative - I said "are you telling ME or YOURSELF". I just told him whatever we believe - ESPECIALLY something where there could be more than one way of looking at it - to ALWAYS bring it up in PRAYER - and be ready to give an ACCOUNT to God for that belief. God Bless everyone.

    • @gunnerhiro394
      @gunnerhiro394 Před 2 lety

      @@skippy675 - hahaha - oh man - I got u pegged - be HONEST with me now - when you're by yourself - in your room - door closed - alone in the dark/quiet - do u have PEACE? Joy (deep happiness)? Feel REALLY loved? OR sad, lonely - full of never ending worry and anxiety - fear? Depression? Going "wah wah NOBODY loves me" (cry yourself to sleep cos no on gives 2 $HlT$ about you? Be HONEST.

  • @adrianwesley9966
    @adrianwesley9966 Před 2 lety

    Great video brother

  • @RPM11111
    @RPM11111 Před 2 lety +1

    Fair play. The reformation took us out from under the erroneous despotism of the Popes. Sadly, however, due to the propensity in human nature to follow after men, many have elected their own private Popes in believing everything that comes out of the mouth of these men as infallible, when none of them are...by nature or in practice.

  • @brunacavalcante4549
    @brunacavalcante4549 Před 11 měsíci +1

    U right ...only Jesus is perfect

  • @fantasybouthour6679
    @fantasybouthour6679 Před 2 lety +1

    Even with the best intentions and a genuine heart, we’re all capable of error sometimes.

  • @chrisbrower9532
    @chrisbrower9532 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic, man; thank you 👍🏻

  • @loriwilkins3233
    @loriwilkins3233 Před rokem

    Brother I commend this video . Well done. Man fallible. Wisdom is key. We can call out one another in love. When in doubt check it out ( with God's Word). God bless you & your ministry

  • @christinaheaney4442
    @christinaheaney4442 Před 2 lety

    Too funny Brother
    I just recently learned Voddie was Not a pre but an A Millenium!!
    The Next Sunday at worship service I brought up the subject re: Voddie belief’s to another brother in Christ ( we both listen to Voddie) however he said …”only one who gets his theology 100% right is guy we are here to worship!”
    AMEN & I love 💕 Big Mac Smack it out John McArthur (nickname I gave him)
    I never heard of Tony Evans but other three
    I am well aware of !
    1st & foremost I LOVE our LORD!
    Can’t wait to meet him
    Come LORD JESUS COME
    Please pray for alll non believers!
    Thank You & God Bless you all!❤️

  • @kingdomofheavenembassy6489

    Sound words brother. God bless you.

  • @sperez103
    @sperez103 Před 2 lety +3

    It’s ironic, are they wrong or is it just that you don’t agree with their interpretations? “When preachers get it wrong” is an absolute statement. So what you are saying is that these men are absolutely wrong and you are absolutely right. It’s one thing to say “These four men are wrong “ as opposed to “I think these four men err in these areas.” You may not agree with Voddie’s eschatology but is “he wrong” and you right. (Remember there is no absolute statement concerning this matter by the church.) I believe that you meant to say that you did not agree with the teachings of these men (and you gave your reasons why). But sometimes in the video it sounds like you are saying that they are wrong and you are right. Which seems like a petty boastful claim since the church is still debating some of these areas, and has been for years.

    • @TheMistysFavs
      @TheMistysFavs Před 2 lety

      MacArthur says you CAN take the Mark - The bible (GOD) says you will drink the FULL of His WRATH if you do.. WHO is RIGHT??

  • @spikedavis6274
    @spikedavis6274 Před 2 lety

    Your are sharing truth. People, including preachers, do make mistakes.

  • @eclipsesonic
    @eclipsesonic Před 2 lety

    26:32 - That's what happened to me when it comes to the pre-tribulation rapture viewpoint. I used to believe in it and while I haven't rejected it per se, I'm now on the fence when it comes to the issue, as I'm inclined to think that the pre-wrath view may be correct, after looking at a different view to what I was taught. I love what Proverbs 18:17 says about this issue: "The first to plead his case seems right, until another comes and examines him."
    That's why it's always important to look at other views when it comes to non-essential doctrines.

  • @fantasybouthour6679
    @fantasybouthour6679 Před 2 lety +1

    There’s no one preacher who I agree with 100%.

  • @carlossanchez-vg3wi
    @carlossanchez-vg3wi Před 2 lety

    Great video new to the channel, and you are right, good preacher sometimes get it wrong and that's ok as long as he is not trying to deceive the body of Christ.

  • @vandykeebbin4762
    @vandykeebbin4762 Před 2 lety

    This was hood because I sometimes look at a pastor as if everything he says is right and it has gotten me to the point that if I do hear a pastor speak something that is contrary to Gods word, I tend to leave that church or never listen to that pastor… this video helped me to understand that every pastor gets it wrong sometimes or like the video said at least one time… now my spiritual discernment does allow me to not listen to some because some are clearly speaking there own sermon that does not follow the Bible at all… but like the video said, show them grace as God shows me grace…

  • @davidjp7197
    @davidjp7197 Před 2 lety +1

    One thing no preacher should get WRONG but many do, is how people are saved under this dispensation of Grace. Ephesians 2:8-9; 1Corinthians 15:1-4

  • @4ucarla885
    @4ucarla885 Před 2 lety +8

    Thank you Min. Cory for sage advice and godly counsel. Sometimes good preachers get it wrong because they are human and not divine. They are not infallible. I agree, it doesn't make them false teachers. God knows that we aren't perfect, but we are striving for perfection--to do what is holy and pleasing to God. I trust the Scriptures above all, along with the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit.

    • @smartchristians
      @smartchristians  Před 2 lety +1

      Amen

    • @rauldelarosa2768
      @rauldelarosa2768 Před 2 lety

      Does anyone know if John MacArthur Jr ever recanted his saying you can take the mark of the beast and go to heaven?
      I ask people I know and they get defensive and question who's asking about John macarthur jr, it's as bad the Roman Catholic church with the pope at times .

    • @karenwarner7688
      @karenwarner7688 Před 2 lety +1

      That is why we should study, rightly divide, and memorize the scripture as we are advised to do by Paul in 2Tim2:15

    • @TB-li6zu
      @TB-li6zu Před 2 lety

      It start when a man heart is lifted against God by teaching what he think not what he is led to preach. It's easy to have the mouth of your own because the is no Head over you and Lord.

  • @Taushathetech
    @Taushathetech Před 2 lety

    You gained a follower. I appreciate this so much. I'm a fan of Johnny mac but that was the one thing I disagreed on, and that's ok. I appreciate seeing others see this and still think hes a solid teacher. But even then we are following Jesus and not people.

  • @designbuild7128
    @designbuild7128 Před 2 lety

    I agree with your differences of opinion and I'm not even a five-pointer in case that was a common agreement point.

  • @solomonabraham0521
    @solomonabraham0521 Před 2 lety +5

    Great video brother. Thanks for this. As evident in the video most of the errors you highlighted in these lovely preachers are eschatological aside Justin, whom I greatly love. I think I tilt more to your view about hearing from God while I can also understand Justin’s point. These hyper charismatic guys have caused so much abuse on the issue of God speaking. I rightly believe we shouldn’t fall to the other extreme because of that. It honors God when we simply say “I don’t know or I’m not sure” when we truly don’t know.
    The best of us would always get certain things wrong. Thanks for your approach
    God’s blessings on the rest of your week
    I am

  • @GodsManKasey
    @GodsManKasey Před 2 lety +6

    Absolutely makes sense, they are preachers, fallible just like any human. Only GOD is perfect!

  • @RobbyRadford
    @RobbyRadford Před 2 lety

    Found your channel and am thankful for it. Question. What was it that you disagreed with on tithing from Tony Evans. Just curious, and I too love the story of Joseph and your testimony. God bless what you’re doing here

  • @markmartinbattle5318
    @markmartinbattle5318 Před 2 lety

    I love these preachers too but when they say things I don't agree with I wanted to put them right ( get me !!!ha ha ha who do I think I am) but your approach is very inspiring .lets just love each other a bit more forgive a bit more .test the word. try are best to seek the truth ,I have changed my mind over the years over many things ,usualy when the holy spirit puts his finger on something and backs me into a corner .all we have to do is remember the grace with witch god has dealt with us and extend that to others .

  • @dreday7204
    @dreday7204 Před 2 lety +1

    Corey you kind of touched on the issue. However I would like your take on if and how people who are born mentally challenged receive faith for salvation... 🤔🙏🏼

  • @sheilasmith7779
    @sheilasmith7779 Před 2 lety +1

    1. There are a few things we do not know and scripture does not answer.
    2. We should know what errors or differences between pastors are SIGNIFICANT with respect to our salvation and what isn't. Everything is not significant.
    3. Why are some Christians obsessed with the end times. Just be right with God each day then when and how end times appear youll be okay.
    4. God will bring truth to all who seek it. Trust that and leave it to God to decide on the issue of those who do not know.
    5. I agree, we do not know everything but should know and will know what we NEED to know as those who seek the truth of God's Word.

  • @lincomgeng5007
    @lincomgeng5007 Před 2 lety

    You’re wiser and more balanced than the preachers you’re talking about.

  • @psharelater172
    @psharelater172 Před 2 lety

    One element of a good hermeneutic and simple meaning is asking good questions. Arguing over the right answer to a bad question yields both bad answers and distraction

    • @psharelater172
      @psharelater172 Před 2 lety

      This would be a corollary to your point about not knowing. One bad assumption with some questions is that we are supposed to have an answer. This is mostly a faith walk where we see dimly.

  • @woofbark4475
    @woofbark4475 Před 2 lety

    Hi brother! Thanks for sharing...In Revelation 13:15 I see various translations that add 'might' and others that do not. This is considerably important as one denotes the fact that the image can kill and the other simply that suggest it as a possibilty. Revelation 13:15 🤔 Any thoughts regarding this matter?

  • @matthew4177
    @matthew4177 Před 2 lety

    And even you’re saying what you’re saying is what you believe. But you’re on point about much my brother.

  • @george10R11
    @george10R11 Před 2 lety

    JEREMIAH 29:13
    13 And ye shall seek me, and find [me], when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

  • @capturinglifephotography6731

    Just wanna help you understand one thing bro about the gift of the SPIRIT, they have not cease I'm a living testimony and I like what you are doing encourageing

  • @Mervin_Kitchens
    @Mervin_Kitchens Před 2 lety

    Very indepth my brother.

  • @jcw4101
    @jcw4101 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video. I agree with your assessment of transdispensationalism. God knows if someone would reject the truth, so placing them in a time and place (Acts 17:26) where they would not receive what they would not accept makes sense.
    Voddie Baucham, one other point about the reason he believes in amillennialism is that he also believes in replacement theology which helps align this stance. Which I think would also indicate he does not agree with dispensationalism, but I have never heard him comment on this. God chose the Israelites (Deuteronomy 7:6), he would not change his mind. The same way he chose Moses and Jonah and brought them into submission, he will also bring Israel into submission in the end.
    John MacArthur's statement, you had it on the screen but didn't read it. Revelations 14:11 "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." For ever and ever sounds like no room for redemption if you accept the mark.
    Justin Peters says there is nothing in the Bible about prayer being a two way street. Literally, prayer being a two way conversation as in talking to another person, if that is what he means then he is correct. Are prayers answered, yes, that is all through the Bible. Has God and does God speak, yes in various ways. He is God, He is sovereign. He can communicate whenever and however it pleases Him.
    All of these men I think are truly called of God to preach, and they do it as well as any man could. That being said, they are men and as men are susceptible to sin and being wrong. People tend to put men such as these on a pedestal and expect perfection from them. They are men, they will stumble and fall at times, we all do.

    • @SpotterVideo
      @SpotterVideo Před 2 lety

      Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
      (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
      The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
      1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)
      2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
      3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
      4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
      5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
      6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
      7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
      8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
      9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9)
      10. Watch the CZcams video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
      Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
      Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:

      “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
      Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
      Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
      Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
      John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
      "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
      John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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      Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
      What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
      Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
      Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
      Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
      Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?

  • @leonardemiletaylor6229

    True. I had to be humble when listening to critics if Mathew Stevenson- who I thought could "teach" no wrong. With time and discernment, I realized that my zeal blinded me too. The Bible is the last authority and even with the freedom we have in Christ, all is not acceptable to HIM. Glory produces growth and transformation and many feel that a defensive posture is a sign that one is called. I believe that Grace warms your demeanor but affirms you secondarily. We don't have to be feared or hated to appear powerful in GOD.

  • @GuyHigginbotham-et1tx
    @GuyHigginbotham-et1tx Před 7 měsíci

    God is in control I trust and have faith that he's got this handled. I think we try to understand things that God only truly knows. Just pray and trust in Jesus Christ grace