This Lug Nut Wouldn't Come Off Our Car!
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Ever have a vehicle put up a fight during a repair? Us too! Andy recounts a recent struggle with a lug nut. Tell us your repair nightmare story in the comments!
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“Have you ever being working on a job and everything goes wrong?” Yes, that’s exactly what happens to me every time I touch my car 😫😫😫
Same not alone
"Have you ever been working on a job and everything goes wrong"
Yes always.....
photondebuger45 Hone, I will be working on this on the Camry, it shouldn’t take more than an hour or two. 3 days later, Is my car done yet? LOL
@@ahmadghosheh3104 thats exactly what happens quite on point actually but and thats a big BUT dont you like it when thier easy too?
Lmfao. Exactly. Rear sway bar on a 2018 Forester? 20 minute job right? 4 hours later, new end links and busted knuckles.
Just go in knowing you will run into issues then it won’t be as annoying when it happens
@@ryans413 of course you do if you dont....well i would hate to say a person would be ignorant lol thinking the car will let you win the first time round or a thousandth time round lol
I had a car that did that a long time ago. What was supposed to be a quick tire change was a nightmare. Thank you for sharing
+nikkicat03 Thanks for checking us out!
Better to have that happen doing a brake job than a flat tire!
Just Had it happen to me during a brake job and it’s still upsetting :( I have 1mm left on my pads
Legit me with the flat and 3 stuck lug nuts I have no clue
@@marianoardon9745 did u figure it out ?
Currently 🙄
This is happening to me rn with popped tire
Remember low RPMs and high pressure when drilling metal. High rpms will dull your bit in about 2 minutes.
i didnt know that, i thought faster it goes , better it drills
Would an sds drill be better?
@@xxxkybourbonxxxx fr💀
Certain specialty bits work best at high speed.
True but to much pressure snaps drill bits
Coworker: this lug nut is stuck!
Me: gets the torch.
Same here, I'm surgical with one. Learned at age 13, just hit 40.
I'll keep going until the stud breaks in the nut. Then replace stud and nut. I'm used to it by now.
How do you get it to break off by hand tho 🤔😬
@@JAYZ3N7 seriously i need to know my wheel will not come off !
I once drilled 13 out of 20 lug nuts off a Ford Escape in upstate NY. After 25 years in the business you learn a few tricks to make life easier. You can also get a 4” piece of 1” copper tube and hold it with a pair of pliers over the lug nut hole. It will shield the wheel from the heat and sparks but allow your to torch the lug nut off with very little charring to the wheel. Drilling is best but takes some time especially if you have more than 1 to do. Great video, thanks for sharing!
I literally had this same problem and have had limited success with extractor sockets, but I drilled it and used a carbide burr, much easier and no damage to the rim! Good video!
+Steve Melnick Thanks for checking us out!
Needed heat on lug nut.
Imagine if that problem happens away from a garage full of tools. Just replace the OEM crap with solid steel lug nuts and save time forever more.
Wel done 👍, a lot of work you did out there, where I simply suggest using a rounded nut removers, which are special nuts set that can be attached to your impact wrench which have a small rugged helalix that catches in the revers direction. This set catches all nuts type whether they are in a good shape or even torn out, that will make your job like a knife in a butter, try them out and feed us back with the result in another video, greetings from Egypt 🇪🇬, keep up the good work 💪
This is why, when I lived in MA, when working on the car if the wheels were involved I always put anti seize on the hub and back of wheel and used Mystery Oil on the lugs. Never had an issue getting the wheels off even up in the rusty New England.
You use oil on the lugs? They didn't vibrate out?
Why wouldn't you use anti-seize on the studs as well?
When using a torch put wheel bearing grease on the wheel, it will barely leave a mark after your done
first last that’s a cool tip thanks I will try that next time.
Interesting. Will tmgive that a try!
Yup, seen to many ruined $1K wheels
Found that out the hard way
i think i already did it... somethIng went out from in between lug nut
what am i gonna do?
Try this:
Spray pb blaster on the lug.
use torch on strip kit socket, so that it gets red hot at the end of the socket.
hammer socket onto lug nut. Use impact on strip kit socket on lug, done.
Thanks for video. I Learned the hard way after having to do this in the past. First thing I do after my car gets new tyres and the tyre guy has battered lug nuts on with an impact wrench is take each lug nut out, apply anti-seize and set them to correct torque. Also, if you reckon there isn't much risk of your alloy wheels being stolen, replace the silly locking nuts with regular lug nuts.
A few tricks from my past. First the speed of your drill is key, in this demonstration he held the rpm way too high. Sometimes a quality hole saw will work as long as the guide bit stays in position, the hole saw will wear away the lug. Check to see if the back of the lug stud is easily accessible, if so torch the back off. A hammer and quality chisel will do a lot more work than you think, but be careful of damaging the wheel. They make specialty sockets for rounded off lugs like this. We have a lot of luck with them, if they don't grab use your hammer and chisel to ding up the outside of the lug, usually that will get it.
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Everybody’s gangster till it snaps
Happens on EVERY job! 😩
Heat the lug and use candle wax like solder...it worked for me. old school trick boys!
Leave that one lug not on, remove all others, lower car from jack...turn car on dump the clutch! Lug nut AND tire off at same time
Can you rewrite that
.. I have a breaker bar and I am still unable to take off my tire lug nuts. I even stood on the breaker bar...i weigh 190, bounced and everything...never loosened up.
@@KalanyMightBeADawg123 had this problem yesterday, were you able to solve your issue and if so how ? it’s on the rim so i can’t drive it anywhere to have it removed.
I would have snapped it off with the breaker bar, you're going to have to replace the stud anyway you look at it.
The lug stud was spinning with the nut (lost it's press fit in the hub)
Roc Pile that can’t be because the nut was still stuck fast to the rim. I got the impression he was using a socket too big for the nut.
@@ScottyB0AllDay Yeah.... good point
yep, I would have
Yeah, I just had to do that. Whole stud was spinning, so I put a cheater bar on an extension worked it up and down and snapped the lugg off. Easy (buy I was already replacing the hub so idk
I had it where the stud started spinning with the lug but frozen on but I had to use a grinder with cut off wheel to cut it off
Thank you for putting this out. learning so much watching your videos
Purchase a "self centering drill bit with guide" like carpenters use to center the holes they drill through door hinges. The bits are replaceable so you can put in a cobalt bit if needed. The bit and tip of the guide should just fit through or into a 1/4 inch drive socket drive end. Sort through your 1/4 drive sockets until you find one with an outside diameter as close as possible to the bolt stub diameter that you want to drill out. Grip socket with vise grip type pliers with drive end toward bolt and align as close as possible. If bolt is protruding you may be able to use a small hose clamp to help you align bolt and socket. Now insert drill bit through open end of socket and push on spring loaded bit until it is touching bolt stub and start easy drilling. You now should have a shallow hole fairly accurate in the center of the bolt stub. Then remove this rig and drill away with regular bits of ascending size. The only thing this accomplishes is a starting point as centered as possible. There may be variations of this technique depending on the circumstances. If the bolt is really hardened some people use carbide tipped bits.
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I just recently did one where I had to cut the dust shield off and Shear off the back of the stud and then I drove it out with an air hammer. And a pointed punch
Good job editing out all the cuss words I'm sure were flying.
I have been using anti sieze on all my lugs for years. I have never had an issue.
I like your approach.
Just an FYI.. your not supposed to put anti sieze on lugnuts because it affects the torque value. I think best practice as far as lugnuts is take them off every now and then. I suppose it depends on where you live and how often you drive the vehicle.
@@TheUnknownHarbingers yes I would not put anti seize on It.
I have been using your method for some time.
But many time i have been thinking, what about using some diesel fuel on the threads before mounting those? Any comment is welcome.
Best.
@@TheUnknownHarbingers no problem affecting the torque value. just torque it to 70% of recommended when using anti-seize
This is happening way to often with alloy rims and aluminum jacket lug nuts, ( for lack of a better description). Car manufacturers must soon change this type of lug nut before us weekend mechanics ruin all our tools.
Whoever put it on last probably cross-threaded the damn lug nut using an impact wrench...
Dealer techs
@@BP-fx3qc happened to me just now 🙃
Chrysler lug nuttttttt, I despise 😡 them so I always change out to a one price lugs😭🤬🥶❄️🍻👨🏾🔧.
Yup there garbage, had to remove more stripped one's off Jeeps over the year's then I could count. I spent few bucks on GOOD removal tools as well which are a lifesaver
Ford is worse and have thousands of lawsuits against them for it
I learned several years back to take a 1/2” 4 flute end mill and chuck it in your 1/2” drill…you’ll be able to drill out that stud in about 15 minutes….works beautifully!
I have a question this time. What about using a round hacksaw blade on a Dremel tool and cutting into the bolt to where you can take a chisel and hammer and either get it to turn or cut it off? I understand depending on the wheel that is in use expense wise. Just wondering. Thanks
I drilled it as you suggested. I can see the lug. Used pb blaster on it. Heated it. Tried to you an extractor and it still won’t break. How did you get it to just fall off? Did you drill between the nut and the lug itself?
Found the same issue doing my brakes, except the previous person stripped the splines to the stud in the hub............so now it just spins. I've been trying to drill it and decided to take a break and look up an easier way.......
Next time you have that problem give me a call, I'll bring over my 1500 ft-lbs impact wrench. 😊
Just had this issue on a 2013 Jeep JK. Had to use a long 1/2" drive breaker bar with a floor jack handle over it. they finally popped loose. My thought was someone put them on with an impact full throttle!
That is the problem. My wife needed new tires and went to the local tire shop. Months later she needs new brakes and I couldn't get two lug nuts off because they were stripped and was unable to change her pads and rotors on the passenger side. These idiots today get out of control with that impact hammering those on way tighter than the recommended foot lbs. This has happened on my truck before as well after getting new tires. I now have to tell these idiots at garages when getting tire changes to make sure you are not putting the lugs on so damn tight.
you were lucky.
i broke 3 sockets when using leverage like you. stuck completely.
so i did just like 1A ...
A little bit of transmission fluid on the threads while instalking. It has so many rust inhibitors. If the stud was spinning, why not grind off the backside and tap it out with a punch or drift pin.
How do you avoid damaging the stud or is that hard to do?
I know this can happen from overtightening but also from lugnut design. So as far as design is this more likely to happen to a socket style than a spine drive? What's the best lugnut style to have?
You didn't talk about the lug
I was a tire buster for several years. That tends to grow some muscle. And I did run into a galled lug nut /stud once in a while.They are essentially welded together.
I had a high quality long arm 4 way lug wrench and I was capable of just twisting the studs in half. That will get the wheel off. Then replace the studs.
You coulda hit it with penetrating oil and hit the stud with a air hammer punch and got it off being from Ohio we deal with that alot
I don’t have a comment more of a question? When you drill the center of the Lugnuts that is a Type lug nut instead of a open end lug nut, aren’t you drilling into the stud? Or are you trying to drill strictly through the bold itself? I was just wondering because this would require replacing the stud. Thanks.
i would think heating it up red hot then using the breaker-bar would've got it off a lot easier but who knows?
if you are willing to destroy the wheel finish then yes, that will work.
You would need an accurate way of just heating the stud. There are tools that uses induction heating to heat up small areas. Tight areas like that would be hard without heating everything else in that area.
what is the sense of drilling the middle of the nut? will it loose the nut? please reply
Use Just a smaller socket (impact rated) and hammer into the nut the most straight u can and then twist with a ratchet (not impact gun)
And that's it!
It'll come off quick
It didn't make the final cut, but, believe it or not, we actually did hammer on a smaller socket for both the breaker bar and impact gun shots!
I usually just twist off stud and replace stud. Easier than trying not to ruin rim. Did 9 on an Avalon about 10 years ago. Shop put lug nuts on with impact and cross threaded all studs.
Even better way. When the cap comes off, put on a socket that's 1mm smaller. Then hit the end with a good brass hammer. Put your impact on it and run it off. Works almost every time for me. (Michigan tech here)
I wish this works with mine my bmw but the head came off !! Now there is no place to even put the socket it’s fkd
Thank you 1A. You all have great information and videos. Excellent work, keep it up!
take a breaker bar with impact socket, put on a couple other nuts to hold wheel on, then brasse breaker bar against floor and drive car in reverse to brake nut loose.
Not if it happens on the passenger side
This was one of the better vids from A-1
That’s a terrible situation to deal with but at least you could get to it standing up.
Once had a lug nut and stud have stripped threads in such a way that the nut was loose and could spin freely but would not come off, had to drill it out but also hold the nut from spinning the whole time, in a recessed hole on alloy wheels
Part of the problem was likely that you removed all the other nuts first and the rim was wedged against the lug nut. A good plan might be to tighten a nut on either side of the stuck nut and leave the two opposite off. Over torque the two adjacent nuts to relieve a bit of the pressure on the stuck nut, then hit the stuck nut a few times towards the axle with a hammer to break things loose and free the ramp of the thread wind and give it another try. There's a reason why they teach rank amateur home gamers would be mechanics to tighten the 5 nuts of many cars in sequence of opposite points of a 5 pointed star.
+Juergen Welz Thanks for the feedback!
Sounds like this will work, but can you do a video on this? I just can't picture it. Ty
thanks for sharing
I used a half a can of CRC freeze off super penetrant, i went back three times to spray each lug. I sheared off a half inch to 3/8 converter and broke a ratchet before using a half inch 2 foot long breaker bar.
Snap-On MG725 1/2 Air Impact? Can tell just by the sound it makes😂
Dissimilar metal corrosion makes the steel nuts stick to the aluminum wheel. Use Anti-seize compound when reinstalling lug nuts being sure to coat the nut where it contacts the wheel.
Nice video! I'm hitting a similar problem when working on my brakes. Ordered my parts from you all and everything looks great. I just cant get the rotor off! I've used a hammer, penetrating fluid and time but cant seem to get the front rotors off of the car. Hopefully if it warms up enough (I'm in Iowa) I'll be able to try using a rotor/drum puller over the next couple of weeks. Think you can do a video on how to use one of those?
You may a Allen screw on it that is holding it on, depending on the vehicle. Look for it on the outside of the rotor! There is no reason for it to not come off otherwise!
Sledgehammer if no rotor screws. 4 hits in a square configuration. Of course replace rotor after these hits. Something this rusted to hub has been on too long and needs replaced. I don’t mess with keeping or machining rotors as this is a safety issue for $30. Not worth it.
Sorry to hear that! Like other commenters mentioned, look for a screw holding the rotor to the wheel hub. Also, depending on the vehicle, some rotors have threaded holes that you can tighten bolts into, and they will push the rotor off the hub.
Have you tried picking at it where the hat of the rotor goes around the hub? I heard from other mechanics that live up there in the rust belt thats the most troublesome part to get off
Air hammers are a godsend when you run into that.
Had this on my first car, Dodge Daytona. Them caps on the lugs just strip out. I end up drilling out the entire wheel hole and drove for years with just three of four lugs.
I take a braker bar, load it up with torque and smack the swivel part of it with 4lb hammer. The vibration brakes the rust loose and torque on the bar takes advantage of it. It's not very good for the braker bar so I have a cheep one for this specifically.
+chill mode Thanks for checking us out!
I had the same problem on my '05 Ford explorer. Tried everything, eventually got them (I had two lug nuts frozen) with a "damaged lug nut removal socket" and an impact gun. Not fun! The tool is like a reverse thread socket, kinda like an easy-out. Replace all the lug nuts if this ever happens to you!
I use a tool called The Lug Ripper II to still them out safely and quickly. All the manufacturers are going to this design lug nut and it just makes everything worse. I also have 19.5, 21.5 and 22.5 specialty sockets just for these type of lug nuts.
If you use a Mini Ductor . It will only heat up ferris metals . Therefore not damaging the aluminum wheel .
Thank you!
+incense000 Thanks for the feedback!
Did you replace the stud afterward?
Nope. They just used the 4 other studs and then ran a nice spray of oil on the rotor.
Great video,i am in the same spot. Local tire shop does not no what to do, But now i can tell them , Awesome
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Ha tire shop only wants to do easy wrk. Took it to a shop said no problem. I mean if ur a tire shop you should never turn away business.
2001 Chevy silverado 2500hd 8 lug one of them strip fist thing trash the one arm factory lug wrench for the 4 way lug wrench this will ensure less chance of rounded off lug nut , and when installing lug nut put some anti seize on threads will make it much easier to remove , any way I use my grinder to grind down to threads and chisel and some heat , a simple tire change turn into an event wow
Why not simply use a bolt grabber bit? Its slightly larger, you put it on top of the lug and hammer it a few times, then attach to your impact wrench to remove it. Irwin sells a kit
How do you know when to start drilling before you start drilling into the end of the wheel stud
I used a candle to heat up the lug nuts... worked pretty well
Manuel impact driver. When you slam it with a hammer the impact and turning force can break nuts free.
I have a 2012 Chysler 200, any idea how to get the lug nuts off, they’re seized on not sure how to get them off. I bought new new lug nuts for my car any ideas?
Blue point makes flip sockets , one socket is a regular 6 point and the other side is a twist sockets , work great for when I hade sollwen lug nuts
I was wondering does this method also work for broken wheel locks when u don't have the key along with it
Very nice Good job 👍👍👍
Spray with the old WD 40, light on fire for short periods. Gradually and repeatedly. Works like a charm to loosen the rust without damaging the wheel
Is this true?
VERY common problem on Jeep and Chrysler products as they tend to use those cheap acorn lugnuts and they are a piss poor design to say the least
I have used a lug or bolt extractor. And I have not had success. It’s a bmw, so it’s a lug bolt that is stripped and too tight. Any tips? Is the last resort to start drilling? Anything else to try first? This bolts are inset. You can’t get anything on them
Had a shop replace the rear differential on my Expedition a few months ago. Recently had a steel brake line rupture from corrosion and since no one wanted to run custom nicopp lines I was in the process of doing it myself and discovered they had cross threaded one of the rear lugs. My 1,700 lb-ft impact won't phase it. I've shattered an iron 4 way using a 4 foot breaker bar. Even though I have a 220 degree safety margin between MAP at it's hottest burning point and the ignition point of magnesium, I can't use a torch because it started to cook off the factory coating on the rim's face before it could get the lug nut anywhere near hot enough.
Taking it back to the shop in about 6 hours, fuck it it's their problem.
Just drilled a fusion set screw on a rotor, deez nuts 😂
I bought a car with locking lug nuts on the wheels. Had no idea until I needed to remove the wheels. To address a brake issue. Come to find out some one had lost the wheel key. I ended up hammering a 12 point socket on to the keyed lug nut and impacted off. How ever there was one that would not give up. Due to the wheel design drilling was not an option. So the wheel had to be destroyed with an air hammer to chisel out the stuck now destroyed locking lug nut.
So did you have to put a new bolt in there did the bolt get messed up
Got a video on how to remove wheel out when 19mm nut holding onto bolt spins (1:49) freely because bolt stripped out of back of wheel's hub?
This gives me PTSD because last year I tried to be “Mr Do It Myself” and rotate the tires on my Santa Fe. I was careless and cross threaded bolts on 2 tires….. next thing I know my girlfriends dad is helping me drill a hole in one of the nuts and managed to get one of them off but when we found out more of them were cross threaded, ended up calling a wrecker and towing the car to the shop. My careless mistake cost me $500 to replace the rear assembly and took the shop damn near all day to do it because they were having to fight with it to get them off.
They called me on my phone and said “Respectfully sir, what in the hell did you do to this thing?”.
I learned a valuable lesson that day. Just because you think you can do it yourself, doesn’t always mean you should…especially if you aren’t trained properly.
Not saying to not do it yourself, but make sure to always walk through each step in your head before doing something to your car.
Because of this simple yet costly mistake I don’t ever want to do anything to my car as I’m afraid I’ll mess it up.
Thanks for sharing
I just used a $70 Bauer hammer drill( Harbor Freight) with a $40 rebar cutting drill set(Home Depot) it took me approximately 30 mins.. hope this is useful
How do you remove the wheel out if the nut is still on the bolt when the bolt stripped out from the back of the wheel's hub?
Honda CR-V's 19mm nut/bolt spins freely. bolt popped out from wheel hub.
Worry that the wheel be damaged if I uses a grinder or hack saw, Not enough room to cut.
whatd ya do? i have similar situatiom
hi i have a problem with mine it has a special key that i absolutely can not find anywhere would this method work if its a torque bit?
How long did it take to drill thru the
Going to try to remove spinning lug on daughters xterra, any ideas
my 2014 Infiniti qx60 often has seized nuts. i usually just snap them and replace the bolts and nut. I had 2 recently that stripped off the splines of the bolt in the rotor, I had to remove the wheel along with the rotor and hub together. quite a job. then I discovered the bolts are so hardened that they can not be drilled. I couldn't reach the bolt heads with an angle grinder and finally had to cut the bolt heads with a torch, took me all day to do a 1 hour job. i feel there is a problem with this cars bolts but don't know if Infiniti as a group has this problem.
What drill bits would i need to do this
This jut happened to me. Tried the drill out method to no avail. Put the lug back on a drove to my neighbors and used his cutting torch. Luckily no damage to the wheel
what drill bit did you use?
Forced to do my own brakes after a shop turned me down (excessive rust). First three wheels went smoothly but, ironically, the previous owner grossly overtightened all the lug nuts on the new, rust-free, wheel hub.
I couldn’t get the lugs off even by jumping up and down on the breaker bar. I broke out my Chicago Electric 12v emergency roadside impact wrench, banging away until it seized. I switched to my DeWALT impact driver with half-inch impact socket adapter and the adapter instantly snapped. I had to use a torch while jumping up and down… and even then it damaged the threads on at least three studs and pulled the threads clean off one of them (like a perfect coil/spring).
It was the only hub without rust, there was body damage around the wheel, and the rim had junkyard numbers so it was clear that the previous owner had replaced the wheel hub and grossly over-tightened. Meanwhile, my brand new caliper isn’t working right so I’m going to have to go back in. Wish me luck!
Thats what happened to me in all bolts when a dude at the tire shop used like a 1000nm impact wrench while the manufacturer says 130nm. Now i dont let anyone tighten the bolts. I do it with my own impact wrench
How did replacing the thread go cuz u did drill into the thread so how does something like that go