EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra: Will it Replace Home Standby Generators?
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Get ready for a direct face-off: traditional home standby generators vs. EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra. We spill the details on specs, noise, setup, portability, and more. Your opinion matters-cast your pick💬
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📌Timestamp:
00:20 Delta Pro Ultra Specs
01:39 Multiple Charging Ways
02:22 Noise Level
02:43 Installation
03:18 Movability
03:55 Standby Generator Specs
04:22 User Journey
05:07 Installation
05:30 Maintenance
06:16 Noise Level
06:35 EcoFlow APP
07:30 Standby Generator APP
07:42 Summary
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Does it work with 220V 60Hz AC? That is the standard voltage here in the Philippines.
Deciding between Delta Ultra system and a traditional Cummins generator now.
I just setup my system. The only thing that was kinda annoying was EPS is unavailable when using a schedule to charge and discharge the device. I'm just going to buy a UPS for the tv or something
EPS will suck as a feature until I can automate battery charging. Right now I have to manually start charging because leaving the feature on and thus Inverter running will drain the battery and it will be dead or too low to be useful when you'd actually need it. Such a dumb oversight on Ecoflows part. I really hope they can correct this I don't want to constantly check my battery level before and unanticipated outage...
Yeah the EPS feature is lacking. Smaller UPS units work well but the clocks resetting when the power goes out will be annoying... @@ChristianStJulian
@@Robulite EPS feature works but the panel maintaining the battery charge for you does not. That was not made clear when I purchased a d installed my panel. Lots of folk will be disappointed once they realize this limitation. But yes I have my network and main PC on separate UPS regardless
Think this is something that can be added in an update?
@@josephz7454 I definitely think its a firmware update but they need to be put on blast so they actually do it
Sounds like a great package, however, when will it be available in Europe/UK...? And at what cost...!
Hi! Glad you are keen. We are still doing market research in Europe/UK. Will give a shout in our CZcams community once it is ready. Stay tuned🙌
Thanks for the info, look forward to hearing from you soon...@@EcoFlowTech
@@pip5461Waiting for a UK unit too :)
I'd also love to see a UK review by Techman (@TechmanSolar)
@@Glen26Agree totally. Would love to see his take too
I'd like to see an EcoFlow system for apartments.
Hi, for apartments, you might consider our Delta 2, Delta 2 Max or Delta Pro.
I looked at what it would take to run our house with the Ecoflow solution for a multi day outage and it would be so expensive that it's prohibitive. We are talking 4 inverters with 5 batteries each and a smart panel for each branch of the 400A service. Plus I would need panels to charge the thing if the sun was actually out during an event. The Kohler 26kWh generator installed was a fraction of the cost, took 2 weeks from contacting them to powering it on and we can run every device in the house without worry, including the car charger. Great in concept, but these pre-packaged battery solutions are too expensive. If you truly want to go this route, get a rack mounted battery system for 1/2 the cost without all the proprietary addons. You should also be concerned when Ecoflow touts all the monitoring capabilities to selectively power and prioritize devices. They had to put this feature in because their solution is not fully capable of powering a home unless you spend many 10 of thousands of dollars. With a whole home generator, you don't need an app to watch specific circuits.
We bought a 24kw Generac ng unit last year and are very pleased with performance. &12,800 total installation costs and 2 week install after contacting the contractor. I do use EcoFlow's Delta 2 and extra battery at the cabin but always take my Honda Eu2200i too.
Unless you have a family of 16 you need to get a smaller house.
1,700 square feet and just my wife and I live here now. Cheers....@@itflint
If you've got a house big enough to justify 400A service then you can afford ANY standby/backup power systems on the market.
Batteries/electricity count as fuel it’s just stored for later use
I’m pretty sure if it flood you won’t be able to use the battery to power your home 😭. You have to cut the power from your home to prevent electrocutions and aswell as batteries and water don’t work well.
Half of the points ecoflow doesn’t make sense. 1: Fuel, Batteries need electricity and people usually set them up charging via grid. Electricity is expensive and cost a lot. Natural gas however is usually cheaper and runs longer. 2: Flood, you’re gonna need to shutoff your electricity anyways and usually the battery will be damaged. 3: Control, What’s stopping you from going to your panel after the storm and switching off a couple things in the breaker. Also, standby generators will run as long as you need them so you shouldn’t need to conserve energy by shutting stuff off althiygh it is advised to save money.
1-pair with solar, 2- some homes have sump pumps below ground level in basements where you can't place a gas generator.3- solar can recharge the battery once the sun is up and if you're not physically home can help if you are able to remotely manage loads to prioritize for example above sump pumps
I would still give the generator the edge for now until the cost of batteries comes down. A 14kw generator with complete install will give unlimited power for about 15kC$. Your argument for now, is still not affordable!
Hihi thanks for sharing, from my understanding, you will still need to pay for the fuel as well as maintenance. However the choice is yours, glad to hear from you🙌
@@EcoFlowTech come on.. you a tech! A generator is a stand alone system. Regardless. Your battery doesn’t get power by magic. Here’s the thing; your battery doesn’t generate power, you got to put it in and then take it out. Big difference. You need secondary systems coupled to it for its existence. No grid power to charge; it dead. No solar to charge; it dead. Solar with no sun to charge; it dead. No portable generator to charge; it dead. So, you get the picture. But it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t get one when the price is right!
@@majie1018 A generator is not a stand alone system. It needs fuel. No fuel mean no run, no run means no fun, no fun means no hum drum drum.
Solar, even on cloudy days, and rainy days, WILL STILL PRODUCE SOME DC POWER, which can be converted to ac power for your house. Technology has changed a lot since the days of i think you're speaking of... but we all have our own opinion. Ecoflow system is expandable, you don't have to buy everything at once. Not sure if you live in the United States, but most homes uses about 30 kWh per day (10,700 per year), start with a smaller system of like 5-10 kwh then build up..just saying
@@EcoFlowTechfrom my understanding you need to pay for electricity aswell. Solar continuously charging it during weather events isn’t gonna be keep it alive, it will eventually die. They’re have been actual rest from normal usage that shows this.
Also... and this is a BIG also... gas, propane, natural gas generators last quit a long time if maintained properly. These batteries slowly degrade over time.. just part of being a battery! My understanding is roughly 10 years even if your not using them daily. I know of gas generators that are over 20 years old and still going. Hell.. I could go to Harbor Freight and buy FIVE 13,000 watt tri-fuel generators and still be cheaper then the battery option. I think its a good idea to have a smaller eco-flow with solar as a backup to run lights/fridge but NOT for whole home backup.. just too cost prohibitive right now. ALSO.. when they give you the charging specs, that is with a bright shiny day directly facing the sun. Sorry to be a negative nancy towards battery technology, but its the same with cars... just too expensive right now, charging becomes a big issue (especially depending on where you live)- remember the news reports this winter with all the charging stations being down because of the cold!! It has its place, but for me its just not economical, nor a replacement for gas generators. Ohh and don't think for a minute that you are saving the environment with battery.. that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down today, but if you have a head on your shoulder you will quickly realize the costs/fuel involved/ carbon gasses emitted / and just raw earth moved to mine and refine lithium polymer is astronomical.
You missed the BIG difference: a standby generator, when running, is sized to power your entire house in any season.
Battery backup for a “whole home” application takes huge amounts of capacity and money, and if you want to go long periods without running a generator, an equally huge solar array.
Moderately sized home battery storage systems are NOT direct competition to whole home backup generators.
A backup whole home generator essentially lets you operate normally while being off grid as long as there’s a fuel supply. Going off grid with solar and batteries requires monumental expense and still requires a backup generator in case of extended periods of cloud cover.
Why go off grid though? I just use my system to be basically off grid but if necessary it uses the grid to charge. The grid is now my backup generator.
If you have a compatible EV you can simply take your (example) tesla cybertruck with it's 120Kwh battery and plug it into your generator port and power your house for much longer.
The sad part is the Tesla Cybertruck is CHEAPER than buying 20 of the 6Kwh battery packs from Ecoflow.
For most people Solar with some kind of battery is enough. I spent 10k (Before the 30% tax write off.) buying and applying for all the stuff needed for the Pro Ultra 12Kwh battery and the Smart Panel. And $800 on clearance solar panels for a 5Kw system. For my small home this was plenty. For an extended outage my EV would be the "generator", but there has not been a time where that would need to be the case. The main cost is doing the work. In my county I can do it myself, if you have to be licensed in yours then that's where most of the cost will come from. It was an 8 hour job to do it myself with a friend.
I have no numbers on how much this will save me since I've just installed everything. According to my math it should be a payback period of 4-6 years. That's if nothing breaks so who knows.
@@Robulite An EV or a gas generator still has to be part of the plan if you plan to survive for longer outages.
Do you plan to use AC or a heat pump during an outage? If so 12kWh won’t last long, and will consume much of the solar input on the Ultra, leaving little to charge the battery or your EV.
I’m definitely not criticizing your setup, it sounds like a great system depending where you live.
My criticism is with EF’s marketing their single inverter 6kWh Ultra as “whole-home” backup comparable to a large generator. They are two completely different things with two completely different outcomes if applied to the same scenario. I dislike when companies over promise and under deliver. I want EcoFlow to do well, and misleading customers is not how.
Excellent point BTW about a large battery bank costing more than an EV pickup with similar capacity AND an onboard inverter to serve as home backup. The argument was true when Ford launched the Lightning and is still true today with the Cybertruck. At the very least you would expect these companies to give significant volume discounts on external batteries… the price per kWh is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. Anyone putting together a system of any real capacity would be far better off with a DIY system, even if they had to pay someone to install it.
I plan to use my Delta 2 Max, two external batteries (6kWh), smart generator and 2kWh solar array for load shedding and emergency power for furnace and refrigeration. Right now it’s providing power on the construction site where I’m building our new house.
I have 14.4kWh of batteries (4 Delta Pros) connected to a smart panel, replenished from a 10kW roof solar array that powers ten of my home’s circuits off grid daily from 4pm to 8am.
The result has been no electric bill for the past four years, with NEM 2.0 bill credits or utility company overage checks being mailed to me annually. Yes, the solar array and batteries are a heft investment, but the energy it offsets each day, especially during peak periods, creates an ROI that traditional generators don’t.
Even with four battery electric EV’s, I was still generating more power than used, so I switched my gas dryer for an electric heat pump unit, our gas stove for an electric flattop, and our gas furnace out for an electric heat pump. And with these additions, we are finally starting to use as much as we are generating/storing.
The average electric bill for a home my size in my area(SoCal) is at least $350/mo. but even with a more conservative savings of $333/mo., an average ROI of $4/kyr.. it would still take only ten years to fully recoup my total investment of my solar panels and batteries. (30k for the solar array & 10k for the EF batteries/smart panel).
I used to have a gas generator as a power back up but rarely used it over a 10 year period. At least with a solar array and battery stack, it can serve a purpose daily to offset grid usage and earn back its initial cost over time.
@@evolv.e well, it has been said, if you want a solar array to pay for itself quickly, move to where electricity costs more, lol. California has insane electricity rates. Fortunately most places are better managed and rates are MUCH lower.
Hi, understandable. The biggest challenge of standby generators is that you can't make your own gas or propane. Any disruption of the fuel supply, which can often happen in extreme weather, leads to a complete shutdown. And concerning the cost, it might cost you more to prepare a huge solar array and a complete whole home backup battery. However, you won't need to pay for fuel or maintenance, especially during outages, you might need a large amount of fuel to run your water pump. In the long run, solar batteries are a competitive substitute for home standby generators if you need a reliable and flexible power supply during any off-grid events.
why are you slamming the generators i sell. I just became a dealer for you. not sure. what about the fact that i can charge this system with this.
Do not buy from these people at all if you need any support you're going to have to talk to the philippines. Spend $15,000 to set up your home and you got to talk to people that don't know what they're talking about how unfair is that ! This is ridiculous a lot of when you buy something is about the back end support you get !!! We take your money and then good luck