The Sims 2 *technically* OUTPERFORMS The Sims 4
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2024
- This video is a comparison between The Sims 2 & The Sims 4. It demonstrates how poorly coded & unstable TS4 is when it comes to performances compared to TS2.
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0:05 Test #1 Time management
2:03 Test #2 Simulation & game performance
5:53 Test #3 Routing
7:16 Test #4 Game smoothness
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It's truely embarassing how poorly coded TS4 is. The term ''spaghetti coding'' takes on its full meaning.
↓Timestamps↓
0:05 Test #1 Time management
2:03 Test #2 Simulation & game performance
5:53 Test #3 Routing
7:16 Test #4 Game smoothness
Btw when it comes to the game smoothness, the way I took more time to click in TS2 didn't give it justice, it looks less smooth than TS4 but TS2 is actually smoother! Anybody who played TS2 knows how smooth clicking is in it!
• I'd also like to add that my Sims 4 game is completely vanilla while TS2 is moded (only a disease mod)...and it still performs better 😂
Your ignorant ass did all this to prove nothing.
'How poorly coded Sims4 is'. Duh..
I don't think you are even aware that The Sims4 isn't 'poorly coded'. It was developed to be played online, not off. It was also developed to be multi-player, not single. And, only playable on pc, not console. So yeah, it's coding it's not 'poor'..but developed differently.
It was actually developed better than it's predecessors...reason the graphics are stronger..again, it was going to be played online...everything needed to be stronger.
So, what happened you asked? Why isn't it online?
In 2013, Sim City 5 failed miserably online. Strong server issues caused the game to constantly crash, making it unplayable. It never recovered from this and was shelved.
Sims4 was set to release soon after in 2014, online. EA/Maxis did not want the same thing to happen to another popular title, so instead of releasing online, they released it as another, offline, single player game.
Thing is, it was still built on online core mechanics. It was built to be played online....not off..reason it has the issues it has has today.
Funniest part of all is...
With all of it's issues, NOT steming from poor development or 'poor coding' but rather being played on the incorrect platform, The Sims4 STILL managed to outsell AND outlast ALL of it's 'better' predecessors...
Including The Sims2.
Learn the deeper history of these games before talking smack about them and making crap clickbait titles trying to one up Sims2, while slandering Sims4.
Just play Sims2 if it's so much 'better'.
@@SimlikeitHot That might be true but, The Sims 4 is already a poorly coded game, have you seen the last update of the game where For Rent doesn't have any bug fixes aside changing the resolution, The Sims 1, 2 and 3 can cancel the interactions faster, have better AI, has less broken features, lots of quality and more bug fixes than The Sims 4, and many simmers were very disappointed with this issue. Also, Is EA really pay you for this shit.
@@longtimebrick8 Sims2 isn't being updated nor messed with as much as The Sims4 is. Sims2 is pretty much stuck in time the way it was 15 years ago.
Let's see what you'd say if it was Sims2 being almost 10 years old in the limelight with over 70 packs weighing it down and an extremely grouchy, nit-picky, entitled and highly demanding consumer base pulling at it every which way every day... Let's see how smooth it would run then...
@@longtimebrick8 I like how my original comment was completely obliterated from view.
This means this content creator had no rebuttal to my claims. Only theirs..which is trash. At least you read it before they deleted it.
@@SimlikeitHot Even The Sims 2 isn't updated anymore, it is still pretty run well, because Maxis put their heart out through their game before jumping on to The Sims 3 despite they didn't fix half of the bugs and corruption issues, The Sims 4 can run very smoothly, but it will only run better with the damn base game or atleast 20 DLCs, and TS4 DLCs are still pretty broken and shit and you need mods to fix it. The Sims 2 might have it's problems, but Restaurants, Weddings, and so much more were worked and don't need mods to fix, the only thing you can modded on is the corruption issues, and that's it. A game that still being updated and a high demanding game doesn't mean it ran better, The Sims 2 doesn't need updates to run better, because EA might mess that game up with broken featured like they did with TS4, and TS2 doesn't actually need shallow, broken, cashgrabby 70+ packs to prove it's better.
that's because the sims 2 was a product of passion, the sims 4 is a product of greed. A product made out of passion will always surpass the product made out of greed.
Sims 4 is a product of diversity hires
Exactly! 😁👍🏻
Very true!
Sims 2 had Will Wright
I bet it was fun to work at EA back then.
I understand you want to make money but it’s not like they didn’t make any back then but now they want it all at every opportunity they don’t want to make enough money they want everything for minimal effort.
Soon they will charge you for eating in the sims 5 realistic hunger mechanics never seen before wow or the sims birthdays now your sims can grow up and get old wow 60 dollars please and forget about neighborhoods only 2 lots and the rest can be unlocked with dlc lol
EA actually made dlc for the freakin dlcs with sims4 pets stuff so expect dlc for dlc for dlc less content more money I replay the sims 2 and my mind is blown by how much content it has even the animations are amazing the graphics look just about the same as 4 they did improve the faces a bit otherwise the world looks about the same no crazy changes I’d rather keep the cartoony art style
It's because TS2 is actually a life simulation game and TS4 is a dollhouse simulation game.
Technically the Sims two & the Sims when they were created was supposed to be a virtual dollhouse, but sims 1 sims 2 & sims 3 are far better games than Sims 4
That’s what I’m saying 😂 sims 4 puts more emphasis on aesthetics and building relying on your imagination for gameplay while sims 2 was a life sim proper with actual gameplay offering twists in your sims life you didn’t expect
It’s just a building game with some outfits.
Yay, dollhouse simulations!
Me when I lie
I really just don't understand why they got rid of SO many animations, like it's a LIFE SIMULATOR, the animations are literally the core of the game!
THIS! They went so far into the realm of aesthetics that they forgot it's supposed to be a game that lets you simulate life. The very things that originally made this game become what it is today are the things they took away in Sims 4, and it blows my mind!
I can tell you why. Creating animations takes a lot of effort. Effort needs time. And time costs money.
@@MimiWalburga Bro, money is all they have
@@MimiWalburga Maxis had a lot less money than EA does now lol
I'm guessing that the reason was because since they had to turn Project Olympus into Sims 4, they had very little time to make all of the animations from the other games, I will say that it was such a stupid idea to turn Project Olympus into Sims 4 instead of starting from scratch, they did that with Sims 2 but they're not willing to do that with Sims 4?
Im cracking up at the “Im excited to introduce you the next generation of the sims!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
"We've added dIsHwAsHeRs" is also something she said and made me facepalm...
@@lllamaface3047 Sims 2 always had dishwashers 😄
@@janematthews3394lmao even sims 1 I think
TS3 also has@@lllamaface3047
The fact that Sims in sims2 don't just phase through each other like in sims4 is something I never realised to be grateful for. It creates wonderful immersion
I remember arguing with someone on the dreaded sims reddit, because they claimed eating takes way too long in The Sims 2. I brought up that my whole Sim families regularly eat meals together and even with all the talking it never takes longer than around 1 in-game hour. Meanwhile in The Sims 4 my single Sim plays musical chairs with his own plate, scratches his face, plays with his phone and just stares into the abyss while smiling like an idiot for solid 4 real-time minutes before he finally finishes his food. Needless to say I was blocked, but it cracked me up. Yes, animations in The Sims 2 are more complex and detailed, which can give the impression of wasting more time. But in reality The Sims 4 is just so laggy and unresponsive it takes even longer to do anything.
And at the same time, theres no way all family eats together! Its a nonsens
tbh sims reddit is full of mainly sims 4 suck ups, never fight about sims 4 with them, remember what they say "“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
@@Ilivepuppys This is why I refuse to be on the generic Sims reddit and opt for specific ones (mainly Sims 3 reddit)
Sims 4 plays like late Sims 3. I had so much trouble with Sims taking 24 hours just blowing horns and waiting for everyone in the neighbourhood to show up begore they age. Or when they pick up a plate and then stand there calculating sinks until they are late for work, and still use the upstairs sink!
@@demo2823 yeah sims 4 runs as bad as sims 3 on bad pcs (or somethings good ones) which says something since sims 3 has an excuse its huge, what;s sims 4 excuse?
GOD i did not realise how much i hate sioms 4's clicking sound effect THERES NO CHUNK TO IT, ITS SO MEAK.
I hate it too! 😂
I dislike most of sims 4 sound effects
this is why i use a mod to replace the sound effect :>
@@MiotaLeeOof, the entry tune, the mood stings, the environment sting. It must all be gone!
I dont like Sims sound effects in general, but 4 is a bit more pleasant and less earrape imo. If I could replace them with something completely different I would though.
The way The Sims 2 even looks better than The Sims 4
That part! It wasn't just the details of /animations/ but the details of /objects/ too. Like, the fan was looking real snazzy
Right?! The game looks so crisp, despite having outdated graphics. The Sims 4 looks like clay, everything is so blurry and without details.
Yeah, and the sims look so lively
AI in the Sims 2 is FAR better than Sims 4 AI. Sims 2 Sims will make way, move around objects and even walk over small objects!
How is Sims 2 having more detailed animations and yet STILL finishes the interaction faster than Sims 4? Animation freezes, that's right.
I missed the Sims' heads in the pie menu!. This iconic feature is in every Sims game except Sims 4.
It's also better than sims 3 as well best game ever
@@BeautyQueen2023X Sims 3 excels at gameplay but Sims 2 has the best details overall
totally agree, I've put thousands of hours on all the Sims games (I've been playing since 2003 lol!) and the Sims 2 has always been my favorite! @@BeautyQueen2023X
@@westanimesimsSims 2 had better gameplay than sims 3 dont lie lmao
@@westanimesimsYou people only like sims 3 because of open world and because of the color wheel that's all
The “I’m excited to introduce you to the next generation of the SIMS” sound was sooo petty 😭 but so true cuz somewhere we lost the original plot of the movie fr
It's not petty at all, it's well deserved. They've ripped all of us off, especially those who have purchased all the expansions that weren't even properly tested for cross compatibility.
@@iiiiiiiiiiii90000000dont talk about it, im mad about that, i mean i didn't buy all but all together over years we've spent 300 dollars on the stupid sims 4 and i want a refund so bad
@@Ash_NuggTato Lol, the first and last pack I bought was vampires, logged back into the account after a few months-year and the vampire pack was gone, since then I've just used a downloader to give myself all the packs, I am NOT spending money on this game
@@CellularPengu how? You paid for it? Did they delete it? You didn't try to contact them? 😱
You forgot, that Sims 2 Sims adjust their Movement, if you change something in Build Mode, like adding a Door to an Wall, where in Sims 4, the Sims will still use the old Path.
Waw I didn't know, that's an impressive touch! Noted for a future video.🫡
One another thing, i loved the introduction of infants in TS4, but man, they make the sims even slower and more confused, when you tell them to do something even unrelated to the infant, they cancel the action and pick them up and put the infant on the ground several times for no reason, then leave it somewhere that even with enough space, they say it is not possible to pick up the infant, and they put the infant there, what do you mean they can't pick it up, I didn't ask them to do that, And don't even get me started on trying to throw a party, no one can perform an action properly, they're all stuck smiling at nothing
A little trick with infant, queue the action from them. If you want to use the change table, click from the infant and the adult sims will go directly without the whole pick up put down dance. A life changer for me.
I just bought the high school years expansion and it seemed to fuck up the game badly. That’s when the baby issues started for me. I could not get my sims to stop picking him up for absolutely reason or give him a bath. They’d set him down, pick up, set down, over and over again. I want to scream lmao.
The fact they keep adding stuff when there’s glitches that have been around since the game came out😭
u guys need better computers i had the same problem with my old laptop
@@meetdamaka I just got a new computer that run the lastest games. It have nothing to so with the PC, it's all about the code of the game itself.
This is what I've been saying for ages. It's also amazing how in Sims 2, sims will do multiple actions with one click, for example if you have a toddler in a high chair, and you want to put them to bed all you have to do is click on the crib and the sims will take the toddler out of the high chair and put them in the crib.
Sims 4 you have to take the toddler out of the chair, hold the toddler, they then put down the toddler, then pick up the toddler and finally take them to their crib.
You forgot putting down the toddler once again in front of the crib. Go to the bathroom, then picking up the toddler again and finally putting them of the crib...if u lucky...
The reason why i dont use high chairs anymore in the sims 4. I get so pissed 💀
The Sims 2 was put into love in the 2000’s while there is no love for Sims 4 and it shows
The freezing during or between animations part is one of my biggest bugbears with the Sims 4.
It drives me insane
I hate how plates just teleport into sims hands in ts4 and the camera is so annoying if you say live next to a mountain. It keeps jittering around
there is a way to fix that, in one of Snatchonsims? I think his youtube name is did a Ticktok hacks for sims and it was a code to change, so maybe you can try and find it (can't help you anymore, just know you can fix it somehow)
Also the worst thing is the speed up, and then all the sounds speed up. In the Sims 2 I listen to music while they sleep on the fastest speed, and the music is at normal speed for me. In Sims 4 if you increase the speed, you get a jumble of sounds. Who wants to listen to sped up music?! Where is the brain and why are they not using it?
You can fix the speed up of sounds in settings. You need only one click. Just click on Setting, Audio and then ... I dont know. I mean I dont know how to write it in English because my game is in different language but you will find out 😂
Edit: So you have to click on Settings, Audio and then enable Match Speed Stereo Music
exactly. Plus, music volume is way too low.
but that makes more sense in the universe, i prefer the sims 2 and 3 over 4, but speeding up tv animations and sounds make sense, the music is playing in their unvierse if the time is going faster so should be the music.
@@gabrielandy9272 But as the player, I would prefer not to hear screeching just because my sim fell asleep.
@@BreakingGaia you can turn that off its a option, but you can't say it's a detail it make the universe more immersive yes, just go to you sound options and disable the setting to speedup TV and sound, but it's a detail sims 4 have that add to the universe lmao the other games that are worse on this
I started playing sims 4 for the first time over Christmas. I was immediately disappointed. Firstly, I hate the ui, I know some people prefer it, but I think Sims 2 and 3 are much better.
Secondly, there are soo many features in sims 4 that are only available in separate packs, things that were just standard in the base game sims 2 and 3. They have a separate pack just so you can do laundry??? Why on earth would that not be in the base game??
Sims 4 Cats and Dogs and Sims 2&3 Pets are not even comparable. They literally created a separate Horse pack in Sims 4 to fleece you of your money instead of just making them part of the pet's pack. Not to mention how great it was that your pet could have a full on career in Sims 2 - this was a feature I loved. Pets in Sims 4 are really annoying.
There are soo many more bugs in Sims 4. The relationships feel extremely shallow, careers are really boring, not having an open world like Sims 3 is a massive downgrade. Fast forwarding through the day when your sims are at work feels like it takes forever in Sims 4. The maids in Sims 4 do hardly any actual work? They literally won't even clean up food left on the counter?
I mean the list goes on and on. Will end up going back to Sims 2 and 3.
The UI in ts4 is... annoying. I hate navigating between say carrier panels and motives. The fact that you can't expand the build mode menu etc. It all just sucks on a base level.
Because the Sims 4 team never wash their clothes? Might be why the Sims 4 smells btw...🧐
I couldn't agree more about the UI! TS1, 2 and 3 had the perfect UI, the semi circle with everything organised on the button on the screen but on ts4 they ruined it. The first time I played it I couldn't even properly build a house because everything was all over the place, I felt like someone broke in my house and messed over all my things, opened the drawers, take everything off the wardrobe etc because I couldn't find anything in it and I hated more than anything else LOL Also the colour is terrible, I am aware that there is a ts2 UI called "clean UI" that tries to replicate the same colour/non texture UI of sims 4 but I think that nothing surpass the blue tone of sims1, 2 and 3
@KamiruraCamichan Yeah it's terrible. It makes everything so much harder to do. Building was really annoying at the start for me. But I also struggled with my Sims needs because of having to switch between everything. I also hate the thought bubbles - the things that want are usually very lame by comparison to the other sim games, at least with my sims. The old UI's are far superior, I even tried to find a mod to bring back the old UIs but all I found were people trying to make Sims 3 look like Sims 4 🙃
@MiotaLee Exactly! Having to navigate between everything drives me insane.
Yep, you made a point here. No wonder EA deleted The Sims 2 from Origin. They would've earned far less than with The Sims 4. Even so, their milking machine doesn't seem to be working that well.
Btw they didn’t exactly removed it… If you have The Sims 3 and Sims 4 you can actually get The Sims 2 Ultimate for free by messaging the Origin Customer Support and ask if you could get free Sims 2 and that’s how i got mine just be sure you got The sims 3 and 4 because they will ask you!! It works 100% but today dunno if it still possible tho i got mine free few years ago might as well try now before it’s really too late. 😅😁
@@namenotimportant4372 Most of us have the ultimate collection anyway so we don’t need their help.
@@namenotimportant4372 Nah, they stopped giving them out about a year or so ago. I tried, even had Sims 2 and every expansion on disc (I used to buy them as they came out when I was younger) but I lost the base game key since it was just a piece of paper inside the box. I thought I still had it in there but apparently not. So I messaged EA asking and then my account was locked. Fuck EA.
@@neroticobsession That sucks if you asked them earlier like i did maybe you could have gotten the original Sims 2 Ultimate Collection without having trouble to. I already said in my prev comment that i dunno if they still do give em free today but i did got mine there for free and original copy no pirate, Anyways i do have a website for free games no virus 100% trusted bcs i once downloaded *The Sims1 Complete Collection* there for free and never had any virus very legit. *(I am rn playing it in my Gaming Laptop i forgot how hard it is to keep your sims alive in Sims 1 lmfao)*
@@neroticobsession It didn't work for me either. I explained that I didn't have a disc reader in my computer so I couldn't install my old TS2 games. They just answered that it was an old game no longer supported 🙄
I appreciate you taking the time to make the houses and sims look the same. Makes it easier to visualize the differences
The Rachel Franklin audio clips 😭😂 I remember when they announced TS4, biggest let down ever
The epitome of false advertisement 💀
She doesn't even work with them anymore. She knew 😂
@@Sitycims
and what`s even worse: They heavily manipulated all the major forums, trying to hide and cover up that many real comments of anger and disappointment when Sims4 was out. That to me was their worst move.
When I play TS4, if a sim is standing in front of the fridge when another one wants to use it, they just don't use it, and it shows that dreaded thought bubble showing their path is blocked. I'd be fine with them clipping through each other if it I meant I didn't have to micromanage so much lol.
But yeah, TS2 is superior in just about every way.
There's more effort, time, care and love put in this video than the entirety of the sims 4
This just makes me miss TS2 and have little hope for TS5
I don´t even think there will be a Sims5.
It's so annoying how much time sims4 Sims spend just looking around in between actions
Finally someone agrees that saving in the Sims 4 is weird! I am primarily a Sims 3 player, and also play the Sims 2. It’s so weird seeing Sims move positions from the last save point in the Sims 4! It takes me out every time I decide to touch the Sims 4.
Funny enough, the Sims 4 is starting to run worse than the Sims 3. I’ve played it a few a times recently and it makes my computer vent go off like crazy in pause mode( I have a gaming pc lol) with only 1 expansion, a game pack, and a stuff pack, but the Sims 3 doesn’t with every expansion installed.
Seriously
I play sims 3 with all the packs and some store content. And so many mods for cas and build buy stuff.
And even when it gets to the point where I need to just NRAAS clean the town it STILL runs better than Sims 4
Sims 3 also doesnt have my sims walk through walls. Or get stuck under stairs.
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 Gosh... the stuck under stairs bug. I have had Sims get stuck under stairs twice and I've no idea how that even happens.
It's my biggest pet peeve with the Sims 4 honestly...
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 in the sims 3 there actually is a way to make them go through walls. if you put a bunk bed up against a wall they might get out of the wrong side of bed and and end up outside or in the next room
Its a shame they never patched the sims 3 engine to 64bit. It would work wonders for the game.
To this day I always thought TS4 had quicker actions by the sim because of the broader world around them, I feel completely bamboozled... Turns out it only felt quicker because they were poor quality.
4:08 I feel oddly bad for this poor slapped together lump of code, just trying its best to fight through🤣
I’m quite new to The Sims. I’ve watched fan-made videos back in the early 2000s with The Sims but actually started playing The Sims 3 when I was younger and started towards the end of 2023 playing The Sims 4, and I can honestly say the most annoying thing is when my Sim does something I didn’t tell them to do and I can’t cancel the action because it wasn’t in the queue until the action starts 🤦🏽♀️
Literally the only thing that frustrates me to no end about TS2 is that it's not capable of handling my cc-addiction 😂
I have had a lot of cc on sims 2, I feel sims 3 can't handle it more since the game is already huge (still got a lot of it, but it lagged more)
i love not giving a fuck about cc cause the early sims games r so perfect if ur able to play without it
OMG The last pack from Sims 2 is from 2008!!! And Sims 4 is a modern 2024 game..... I think I just got my first colorful phone back in 2008 and this game was already perform like that. I think I will be forever fan of Sims 2! And after 15 years of playing in it I am still not bored and find something interesting in it
I'm still playing ts2 and I love it!
May I ask which OS do you use?
Oh god I didn’t realize how much i HATE the clicking in ts4
As a Sims 2 player, the whole move to one side or waiting depends on the action. While stairs is a good example of the AI being smart in other actions the sims will queue drop a bit too fast. One bad area is using a computer. The first sim can be getting up from the chair while the other sim is coming over to use the PC. The sim coming over will foot stomp and drop using the computer from their queue even though the sim using the PC is pushing in the chair. A small amount of idling would have helped here. It's not perfect and there are other areas they could have improved upon like pets but I have played since 2004 and won't be stopping for any new life sim.
Honestly I think a lot of this is why I don't play Sims 4 but I didn't realize why it annoyed me so much, just that it did. I am too use to Sims 2 fluid game play and seeing it here puts it in perspective.
I agree it has its problem too! Notably the computer like you named! But yeah overall, it's more stable than TS4...
My only main bug I’ve been experiencing in the sims 2 is that I can not use telephones at all. When I hover over a phone, my sim resets on whatever action they’re doing and will rotate in different directions every time id interact with the phone
@@alazaedavis4479 You want to put on testing cheats. boolprop testingcheatsenabled true and an error should pop up when you hover over the phone. You will find the error report in your Logs folder inside your Sims 2 folder in Documents.
If you post that report to a site like Mod The Sims someone might be able to read it. Jump bugs often occur when you have either two mods clashing or you installed a mod that required a separate file that you did not download.
@@alazaedavis4479 Wow, I've never had such a problem before in my game, must be some sort of bug caused by corruption or whatever...
@@javadbahram795 it could be cc but I don’t have any that I can recall that alters phone functions
I'll take The Sims 2 and Sims 3 over Sims 4 anyday.
Something else that annoys me. If let's say you have two sims. They both have an interaction to cook at the same time. One is closer to the fridge than the other. That one will get what they need from the fridge. And move on. They are no longer in front of the fridge. But the second one will now show up and act like someone is in the way and they can't get to the fridge. Even though that previous Sim is gone and out of the way. Where as from what I remember in 2. If no one is front of the fridge. Then there's no problem. Lol!
Thank you so much for this video, this is what I have complained about in the sims 4 forum and the EA forum, the coding for the game and new interactions in the game that we can't find, then they sneakily added it after I complain about it.
It’s crazy how the older version of the game functions way more realistically than the version they put out now it’s like they are regressing backwards .
honorable mention. I despise the sims 4 automatic camera angles, especially when you live in an apartment. Like whats the deal with the camera phasing into the building when I'm trying to look at my sim on the ground floor?
Completely agree!
I'm surprised there wasn't any scene of Sim randomly decided to go through room's items wall, sometimes to make a U-turn. But phasing through sims seems fair enough
The Rachel Franklin voice line gives me nightmares its even worse now she is the head of project Rene 😩
She came back? Wtf
@@Aleals7777 Yes shes back
Please no this is the worst news 💀
I have been a sims player since sims 1. I have all my original disks (1, 2 and 3) , all the packs and expansions, manuals, all my CC neatly organized. I have had nothing but headaches and troubles with EA when their launcher superceeded Origin, spent tens of hours recovering my purchased content. The latest problem was my EA launcher disappeared and no matter what I did, I got the message that the file this points to refers to a program that was moved or does not exist. It disappeared in one day and I did nothing to cause that. The EA exe also shows the same message so I can no longer get into any of my sims 3 or 4 games. At this point, I don't want to go through the hassle of tying to re download the buggy ea ap (since for many this has not been easy if small bits of program are still in computer registry). I think I will just go back to Sims 1 and 2 and maybe try to install sims 3 without EA launcher since I have all the disks including the original sims 3 disk from 2009. I will never buy any more EA content. EVER
That's sad. I often get a message when I click on Sims 4 that some big string of numbers is missing. And then it turns out that EA app decided to log me out again and I have to open it separately and log in. I hate the modern reliance of games on third party executables, especially if they need online verification. We no longer own our digital content. Stick to those discs.
This happened to me a few days ago! So weird. I downloaded the app again, with the intention to reinstall but I had the option to recover the app. The app immediately worked after that, haven’t had any issues anymore.
@@desiree2086 Good to know. I will think about if I want to redownload or recover, I didn't try that. I am leaning toward not and just sticking with sims 1 2 and 3 from disk. 2 and 3 were my favorites anyway
I must be really lucky because thankfully this never happened to me
Well... seeing the alleged breakdown of maxis with team members leaving. Idk if i have hope for sims 5.
I just hope one of the 3 potential alternatives can get it right.
I only know about 2 of the alternatives.
Which ones are thinking about ?
Paralives
@@chloe--1374 life by you, paralives and inzoi
There are also more floating around-- but one is 8bit, so I personally don't see it as a Sims alt.
Sims 4 is so broken it makes Sims 3 look perfectly stable in comparison
And Sims 3 has issues. I still dont get how mirrors and water cause a memory leak+
Sims 3 also has terrible animations, everything just teleports.
TS4 is so incredibly glitchy, I basically can't go a play session without running into a bug or having to reset my sim, it's kind of insane.
the memes coming out of nowhere never fails to make me laugh ijbol- 😭
keep the good job 🥳
I started playing The Sims 4 as soon as it came out, I didn't know the series and I didn't have much time to play it, in recent years it has almost become my hobby and I remember that I started to recover the old titles, now it's impossible to go back and playing the sims 4, even though I have a handful of expansions I can never have as much fun as I do on 3 or 2, even medieval is more entertaining. let's ask ourselves why the sims 2 is very difficult to find.
3:37 quick T pose 😂
The fact the even the sims 3 had step backs from the sims 2 and still begin great, sims 4 really the only thing it has is build mode and the cas
facts!
I don't even like the CAS. Not enough simple clothing and hair options, and the face and body tools are finicky and require you to know what invisible sliders exist rather than showing them.
@@demo2823exactly, the grab and drag system is such a pain in the arse
Far easier to handle (than 3) in my opinion. (Although two did a better job labelling them than three, so that might be my actual issue.)
Are we surprised? Sims 2 was designed with innovation in mind; to push the limits what life sims could do and expand on what Sims 1 did. Sims 4 was a rushed product that was slapped together in less than a year after the online game it was supposed to be failed to see the day. Sims 3 doesn't run well but at least it was because it was too ambitious for what the developers could do. Sims 4 doesn't run well and has no excuse for.
They even coded the sims to serve the plates to the number of sims currently at the house
And they consider guests!!
I thought it were eight like in 3. Although 3 doesn't set the table either. But at least they sit the f Down to eat. Sims 4 sims do everything but sit Down 😂
For this and many other things I have decided to stop playing Sims 4 haha. I have played Sims 2 and 3 again, they are a thousand times better than Sims 4, they are better made, they have GOLD stories.
I feel you. I also reinstalled 3 and started playing again. (And with the nraas mods and smooth patch as well as a bit of cosmetic changes it runs really well while also looking better).
This is why The Sims 2 is a game that balance gameplay and performance, sure it has some problems, but the features that was broken in The Sims 4, do work in The Sims 2 and 3. EA definetely needs competition.
UPDATE: Even The Sims 1 runs better than The Sims 4 despite the game has compatibility issues.
The biggest issue sims 1 has is that it doesn't scale and just Zooms out
@@keit99 yeah I know, but overall it still completely fine hehehehe
That’s because the sims 2 was will wrights passion project and sims 4 is eas slap job repackage of project Olympus with a focus on aesthetic dlc, not gameplay
No, their focus was on Shareholders, not gamers, let alone customers.. :D
I have come to accept the cold hard fact that the golden age of gaming is long gone. No more attention to details, no love, passion and care goes to any game anymore. No bug fixes or actual testing. This is unfortunate, but it's the truth. The hardest pill for many people to swallow in life.
hahaha, this is true!
Paralives gives me hope in that regard
@@oceanegougeon3025 yes, they put a lot of effort into everything, literally. And they have been listening to us disapointed simmers.
However, our economy is a sharks den, through and through - something entirely good cannot stand within that - especially, when they want to make the game affordable, even free. Too many reckless, greedy ppl with influence who will go against that, sad but true.
@@Marge719 nah, not having shareholders to content is a huge advantage and will allow them to offer a game that you buy once and that's it. We need to encourage anti-capitalist (anti growth) endeavours, for the sake of our planet. People need to see it's possible (because it is).
@@oceanegougeon3025
good point too. If it goes on like it is now, humans will extinguish themselves, that`s for sure.
My point has nothing to do with shareholders though, what I am alluding to is far worse.
Jeez i tought the the sims 4 is just less detailed and worse performance but now i see it it's not only less for more money but also more laggy,less unstabled and much slower never gonna play them again even though i didn't planeed anyway (sorry for bad english)
as someone who has spent way too much on this game and thousands of hours playing, it is genuinely a good thing more people are deciding not to play. all of us would be so much better off waiting for a game like Paralives to come out, where people have a heart for the game they’re making instead of just greed. and btw your english is not bad at all :))
i just know i'm making weird shortcuts for some of my thoughts and mistake spells come from my dyslexia but thx and what you say it's true.Just wait and play until in Sims 2 and 3 they good enough i would recomend first game also but is far from perfect this days and can be turn off for some people
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In my memories of ts2 i have no problem queuing actions, while on ts4 the sims always crashed and reset when i put too many actions on queue
Or they will just override their current Action. If I want you to do something sim, i'm cancelling your Action bevor giving you a new one
On TS4 it can take several seconds for the interaction menu to open up when you press on fridges while having a lot of items in the sim inventory
Yes, also happens with objects with a lot of interactions I noticed...
my dream is to have the aesthetics of the sims 4, with the gameplay of the sims 2, and the open world of the sims 3
haha, yes, perfect game :)
Really that mobile game Look? Nah take the sims 2 make it Look better and add the tooling from 4 (cas and buildbuy) as well as the open world and the colour wheel of three. (But CAS needs a proper room again)
The more I watch videos like that the more I appreciate that I grew up with Sims 1 and 2 (and partially 3). And also the more I'm getting mad at Sims 3, because it was the game that started spiralling the series into what it is now (but at least Sims 3 gave us different experience and some awesome DLCs, plus Medieval side game).
not to forget open worlds and the colour wheel!! For the life of me I cannot understand how Sims 4 managed to not implement these important features.
While Sims 2 and Sims 3 tried to take advantage of the new tech of their times, Sims 4 instead catered to low end devices which may have let a lot more people play Sims 4 but it basically meant that the engine was so limited, causing small dlcs and bad performance.
It also kept DirectX 9... Even though DirectX 11 was out for 5 years at that point.
Pretty sure sims 2 and 3 are the same engine (for the most part)
You're like ENXGMA but if he made The Sims videos instead! You're extremely underrated and I want to let you know that you earned a subscriber! Keep it up 💙💙
I think the way The Sims 4 is saved is it saves the acction queue, so say your sim is walking to go sit but you hit save first, the game will save the action as already done (if that makes sense) so the sim teleports to sit but doesn't eat. Idk why they did it like that, sometimes (all the time actually) you would load a lot with 10 sims just standing still and the animation of the sim doing something would start after you press play??
It's not really the action queue but the routing. In these games they generate an invisible Sim at the goal point with the goal rotation. You can see this if you use testingcheats in Sims 2, shift click on the mailbox and select Enable Routing, a test function that made it into debug mode. A T posing copy of them will appear at the target point, and AI will figure a natural curved path, then they will walk there and snap to the T pose.
Clearly in Sims 4, they just didn't add a save function for being part of the way through routing. It requires saving some old action (where they used to be) plus the goal spot, route shape and percentage of completion, in order to prevent glitches such as finishing it too fast, changing your curve, or in the case of Sims 4, jumping to the end of your route.
Playing with the Sims 2... Using realistic mods to enchance the realism further. (Smaller payment, ACR, death by childbirth, replacing old electronics, etc...) and I have to say I'm having lots of fun. Starting my 3rd generation of sims in Pleasantview very soon!
your sound effects make every video a treasure. thanks for doing this!
This is good information. Don't put *technically* on your title, because it's truthful and straightforward. It will also help with algorithm, using generic but detailed title
I think it was a pun on technical issues.
@@Eiko286yes exactly!
A game made with love VS a game made for the sole purpose of making a hole in your savings
yknow it's crazy that I always thought my sims 4 game ran so badly because I have 8.31 GBs of mods on it and it turns out the game is literally just like that
not technically
it does out perform
By technically I meant technologically!
the perfect representation of a smaller company work and attitude towards their product versus a corporation :/
Thank you for the video, I haven't played sims 2 in years and didn't know that there is such a great GAP in the technical aspects of the games...
Maxis was already EA at the time. EA bought Maxis beforw sims 1.
Love it! Great editing 😅
It's amazing how your videos reunite all the sane The Sims' fans out there. I'm on a group on facebook where everyone is completely NUTS. They LOVE everything that EA does, and are ready to throw their hard earned money in the trash just to defend a millionaire company that doesn't even know that they exist. I mean, 20 YEARS separate these two games, that's an absurd. The amount of money that they ask for the game is also insane. We should stand together to ask for a better game, not to lick EA's boots.
Another fabulous video! Immediate like! :D This wasn't mentioned in the video but something I noticed...
It is MUCH easier to change the game into the language you WANT in The Sims 2 than in The Sims 4. Am I right? I noticed the language of game menus in your Sims 2 vs Sims 4 game. I sometimes like to play my game in Japanese instead of English....Sims 4 won't let me change the language of my game without deleting my whole game and booting it up from scratch >_>.
Oh I have to try that then! That's the exact reason why I let my TS2 game in french since when changing it in english for TS4 I had to delete & reboot it ALL 😂
How do you change languages in the Sims 2 without reinstalling it completely ? 🤔
@@oceanegougeon3025 I'd like to figure it out too, still didn't find how & it would greatly shorten my editing 😅
The routing issue used to be a HUGE problem in previous games. Sims would get stuck all the time if they didn't get a whole square to walk in wherever they were going. I'm guessing that's why Sims can just walk through each other in TS4. That last Sim would have been stuck on the stairs forever with that big group standing at the top. We used to complain about this a lot back in the day.
Yes that's the reason why they Phase. (Interestingly there is a mod for three that reduces the hitbox of pets to fix Routing issues. Should've a similar effect (no phasing but Clipping nicht be possible)
It's also funny how in the Sims 4, I cannot be bothered to ever leave the home lot. You will never get me to leave unless dragging my cold, dead corpse. However, in the Sims 2, I was sending those guys out just about every night after work.
Wow, this is super revealing. Thank you for doing these tests! So much was robbed from us Simmers
le fait que ton jeu est en français 😂 au début je pensais avoir une hallucination
Yes, the saving issue in the sims 4 is really annoying. Before I always remebered what I was going for in game. But in 4 I was sometimes lost.
Can you still play the sims 2 in 2024? Where can you buy the disk for pc
I think the only way nowadays is by 🏴☠️it...But you might also be able to find it on Ebay
“Im excited to introduce you the next generation of the sims!” 😅
Exactly. That is why I love a challenge of micro-managing 6/8 sims in TS2 but give up with 3 sims in TS4. The time, the interactions, cancelling etc makes it impossible...
Recently been getting to play ts2, and man you can FEEL the work put into it. I like ts4, but it gets so so frustrating to play cus all these little things pile up and makes it annoying to play. The only thing I'm struggling with in ts2 is literally just figuring out how to play and get good results, but thats because the game is just harder than ts4 and works differently in many areas and its my first time playing, not because the game's glitches, bug and performance actively hinders your gameplay.
"Love" it when in sims 4 I give a few tasks, look away to some other sim and when I return booom, something happened and all the actions are cancelled and I can start again.
If it were in The Sims 3, it would take about 10 years to complete each task like this haha
I remember playing Sims 4 on release and being immediately disappointed in gameplay. Current Sims 4 isn't much better gameplay-wise, simulation lag really irks me. I've been playing since Sims 1 and can't get enough of older Sims games
Thats all lies about The Sims 4 being demonized for its low quality, its truly that the sims 4 is a conceptual and technical piece of ea's shit what's deserves a full remake or cancelling
I miss sims 2
You can still play it if you want to
I’ve never had a sim in ts4 cook this fast before😭😭 they just stand there with the cutting board in their hand for a solid 10 minutes before they even get going
i’ve been playing the sims 2 a lot lately after mostly playing the sims 4 and honestly the difference in performance is EXTREMELY noticeable. the sims 2 feels like it runs like how a game is supposed to run. there’s things i love about the sims 4 that i wish were in the sims 2 but none of it involves the core gameplay, lately it’s been hard to imagine myself going back to it. it’s great that the sims 4 makes so many people happy and i have a lot of happy memories with it too, but lately it’s been impossible for me to separate the game from what i know it could be in a perfect world and the fact that it will never be that game.
The animation freezing in sims 4 is actually what bothers me the most about the game. Everything takes twice as long as it should because the animations are so buggy.
It would be so nice to have a sims 2 remaster, make it compatible with newer consoles and available to pc players
2:05 However when installing a new expansion in the Sims 2 and 3 sims automatically teleport and cancel all interactions whenever you load your save before installing a new expansion pack. I don’t think this happens in the Sims 1 but it might in that game too for example saving your game with the base game only before installing Livin large then loading the game after Livin’ large could do that in the sims 1. I have only played the deluxe edition.
I never had that experience. I used to enjoy setting my Sims 2 lots up like the EA ones when saving- cutout walls, 1 game speed and everyone kind of posed around the house. So I think I would have noticed if after instamming Bon Voyage my setup was ruined. As for Sims 3, I only remember that all the actions in the hood reset if you place a house from the library, I think. But then it gives you a text warning.
That time comparison bit made me remember the fact that sims 4 sims take so long to eat food for some reason?? Like dude you don’t have to pause just keep eating please
and another video proving Sims 2 superiority and the amazing artistry of a professional team 💅
while the new instalment is just a product of laziness and lack of ambition. Absolutely shameful.
Sims 2 was the first sims I got into and i loved everything about it. Although I was too young to fully explore past 1 sim life, I want to see my town live at least 2 generations. I miss sims 2 and Im so tempted to buy it off fleabay, 3 is pretty decent. I like the freedom to move around in 3, but I keep finding myself wanting to play 2 more.
😮… it might just be me because I don’t really care for bathtubs in my house unless my sims have children, I usually have showers, but the ones that do ask for a bathtub. I don’t see them sinking into the water like this one is. I've seen them get in the bathtub, play around in the water, or sit there and relax. but I don’t believe I ever seen them continuously slide under the water as if trying to purposely drowned themselves 😅
The Sim walking through the other Sims had me dyyying like I’m always like whhhattt 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Then they add this crazy stuff to the sims 4 claiming they are burnout, the sims 4 game is just lazy
The Sims 2 seemed to be made with love and the developers seemed excited and invested in making it good. The Sims 4 started out half-arsed and wound up with packs like "picking your nose extreme pack" "The Sims 4: crochet pack"
Thwre are a few rhings that ot does well. I like create a sim, and that shoes are separate to the outfit. I also like that you cam configure genders, pregnancy, sexual orientation etc.