*PLEASE READ* Meant to say this in the video. I know a lot of people have VERY different interpretations of this character and most are very passionate about it. But please be civil with each other. Anyways hope you guys enjoy the video. At this point I feel good about my interpretation, but I’m not sure I presented the ideas as well as I wanted too. I do want to make it clear that I’m not trying to justify Ouma’s actions at all. I do think he had good intentions but still he was a very selfish character overall. Especially seeing how the whole situation with Gonta played out. I also want to mention that although I don’t think Ouma thought of the others as his close friends, that doesn’t mean I think he didn’t care about them at all. I think he cared about the others on a human level as in he hated seeing them suffer alongside him. But he didn’t want to get too attached since he’s very untrusting along with the other things I mentioned in the video. Because of this he would attempt to stop the killings to an extent, but not fully enough to make himself vulnerable so that it jeopardized his life or final plan. I really think he was only willing to die if he thought it would directly end the killing game. Anyways if I wasn’t clear enough in other parts, then I can make a sequel or respond to any questions you guys have regarding it. Hope you guys enjoy though!
I would actually love to see a video on ouma's relationship with the training trio. It would be interesting to see your opinions on how he felt about them and how they felt about him.
Weeby Newz After watching the entirety of the video I strongly agree with the entire analysis,. I did think his feelings were genuine whenever someone died like Gonta,Rantaro as examples and he used that mask to hide his true feelings to the bitter end. The relationship video you discuss I somewhat want to hear but at the same time it's seems pretty clear cut, Kokichi hates Maki for her talent and thinks Kaito is too good of a person to the point it can harm everyone else including himself because of his true belief and he trusted Shuichi because of his logic and reasoning to find the truth. The the entire dilemma between Kaito and Kokichi is one sides Pure belief which is mortally right but can result in the group doing as the mastermind wants which is to gain hope to fight the dilemma they're in, vs Kokichi pure logic which is the way end the killing game but at the cost of the groups trust and driving them to despair.
RandomRex6 yeah!! He’s got a lot of random lines like that that are pretty obviously true once you understand his true intentions but seem like obvious lies when playing it the first time around
@@EggTree7272 no no no, it's "oma", but with a particular accent (like this "_" )on the "o" of oma."Oma" itselfs, means "grandma" in germany. "Ouma" is also a correct form
I think there's so much conflict around Ouma's character because he's a complete contradiction to himself. He's a moral person who enforces it through immoral means.
i think he is a perfect personafication of the gemini sign itself tbh, i'm a gemini too and kokichi was the first dr character i could ever understand and even relate to to some degree, kokichi is gemini too so yeah
Poor Kokichi was strangled twice, punched twice, was shot with a poison arrow, and was stabbed with a regular arrow. He may be a little shit but he has a huge pain tolerance-
Really like the idea that Kokichi realized that Gonta's murder was actually his fault and why he got progressively angrier during chapter 4. This would also help the fact of how he was willing to die in chapter 5 so easily. Possibly out of guilt for Gonta. Because Gonta is gentleman
Going back to the whole Kokichi and Kaito parallels, essentially: Kaito wants to save everyone by trusting in the good, honesty, and openness within people Whereas Kokichi wants to save everyone but knows no one can be trusted to follow through on any of their promises so he has to manipulate them in the right direction behind the shadows at any cost DANG
And both of their beliefs are wrong, unfortunately. Kaito trusting everyone (except Kokichi obv) unabling them to figure out the true mastermind which is very close to them the entire time, while Kokichi's decision to trust nobody and keep on lying to others had ruined his original plan (the one where he tried to usurped the mastermind by 'taking' his role and end the killing game by revealing the mastermind's identity), and ultimately cost his life. He should have find someone to trust to; but then again, it's difficult to do so. I think the reason why Shuichi succeed on revealing Tsumugi as the mastermind is because he gave the benefit of doubt on Tsumugi. To doubt is to trust, and neither Kaito or Kokichi did so.
And ppl think we like Kokichi the best because he’s “hot” or just the “comedic” relief. The true reason why I adore Kokichi is what you just said. His character has the most depth and turns than any anime character I’ve seen. His twisted logic is so smart and almost like a master mind that it’s hard for me to completely take it all in. I feel like half of the kokichi kinnies like him for his looks or his humor and the other half likes him for his actual character.
Dismal Banditø I agree I also have a theory that whoever wrote kokichi’s “plot line” in the game was someone trying to end the killing game by manipulating a character from the inside, which is my personal explanation on y he’s so smart in the game, like seriously he’s a fucking genius! Unpredictable by the mastermind to, shame Maki was so trigger happy
Kokichi always did strike me as a character that was constantly covering up his own insecurities under a mountain of lies so nobody could realize when he's genuinely hurting. It makes sense that he's constantly getting reinforced for lying every time his weakness is mistaken for a ploy, even when if you closely look at the changes in Kokichi's behavior in every case you do notice a genuinely disturbing downward spiral that everyone except Kaito is completely oblivious to. It is interesting that Kokichi's character arc is clearly a downward spiral as his lies corner him into a position where he feels forced to instigate murder and when Gonta is unwittingly robbed of his memories (and therefore his guilt) Kokichi seems genuinely disturbed for a while before retreating back into his cold mentality. I just love how the way Kokichi's lines following Gonta's execution ambiguously sound like they could indeed be malevolent and deceptive... or broken, traumatized denial.
NotAGoodUsername360 I agree! What specific points in the game do you think show him going down a disturbing downwards spiral? Besides the obvious (Chapter 4)
Kari's Small World Every chapter has at least one major milestone: Chapter 1: Kaede's death (as pointed out in video) Chapter 2: Failure of the Insect Meet And Greet scheme to make everyone watch the Motive videos (which the trial eventually reveals that it ultimately lead to a murder taking place). It's the first time Kokichi tries to take control of the situation, and it blows up horrifically in his face. I'm not sure if he realized what Kirumi had done when he held her up after the murder, but it seems likely. He does, after all, go out of his way to torment Kirumi at the end of the class trial by exposing her attempt to manipulate the class. That makes sense if Kokichi hated Kirumi for ruining his attempt to take control. This is also when he exposes Maki to the group at the risk of his own life just to gain some semblance of control. Chapter 3: Kokichi makes a more concerted effort towards Tenko's murder than Angie's (which makes sense, seeing as Angie was another obstacle to his taking control of the game). He does seem to suspect Kiyo of having ill intent and volunteers for the séance pretty quickly. When Tenko is literally murdered right in front of him, he once again loses control and investigates pretty intensely after that. He must've been running pretty fast to have split his forehead open when he stepped and tripped on Kiyo's backup seesaw, after all. And then Chapter 4 and 5 have the most obvious turning points. There's also the progression of Kokichi's malevolent expressions that reflect his increasing insanity and desperation for control over the course of the game, culminating in that haunting dead-eyed, painted-on grin he gives after finally pulling off his hijacking of the game and claiming to be the mastermind.
NotAGoodUsername360 I see, I do see that now. People have mentioned that he may have been faking when he seemed spaced out after he fell, but I think he really got hurt and was in quite a daze for quite a bit. He had to have been on the ground for a while, considering the pool of blood surrounding him
Something that could be important is Ouma's small stature. He doesn't look very intimidating, and if his past had potential threat to his safety such as living on the streets, he could've exaggerated his talent and DICE to protect himself. If lying was a defense mechanism he used to cope through childhood, it makes sense that Ouma would rely on deception so heavily
Let's not talk about that revelation from chapter 6 please... anyways, I imagine an offscreen scene between Kokichi and Monokuma as he's setting up the exisals to orbit Monokuma after he reveals the despairing truth about the outside world. Assuming Kokichi caught on to Monokuma's desire to induce despair, he could mockingly claim to do Monokuma a favor in a conversation like this: K: "Don't be angry at me. This is an apology for the last trial being boring!" M: "How is this an apology!?" K: "I can tell that your objective is to induce despair on everyone, so by revealing the outside world to everyone, I've plunged them all into the depths of despair! And now, someone (or everyone) will kill themselves or kill someone else because they lost all hope and reason to escape!" M: "Ok look... I do want to inflict despair, but not like this! This is boring! You're making the game BORING!" K: "As long as there is despair, you can't possibly get bored right? Someone like you... can never get bored of despair. Well, good night Monokuma!" *Walks away with an evil laugh* M: "Hey! Come back here right now! You'll pay for this Kokichi! You'll pay for turning my despair against me! *Graaaar!*" Basically, Kokichi revealing the truth of the outside world might have created a despair that isn't fun for sadists in chapter 5. Instead, that despair is designed for ruin and discouragement (ruin the killing game to discourage people from enjoying it).
I feel like Kokichi was done so dirty by the survivors. He made the plan, probably from the very first moments, and he operated under the best intentions, but the survivors all discredit Kokichi's true intentions as a lie and give Kaito full credit
It's under Kokichi plan to be misunderstood like when he frame himself to be mastermind so it's all his intention in the first place and he succeds, but i can agree that the survivor done dirty to him well atleast 4 survivors know his true intention at the end.
I swear to GOD I HATE how at the end of case 5 the survivors all give credit to Kaito for the whole spectacle when Kokichi was the one who planned it all out and managed to actually mess with the mastermind. Kaito is a sweet and lovable character, but tbh, he ain't knowing sh*t. I love Kokichi and feel so bad for him. He literally sacrificed his life to end the killing game only for everyone in the end to still dismiss him.
In the survivors' defense, Kokichi made himself to be untrustworthy and malicious on purpose, after everything he had said and done, its no wonder they would believe Kaito was the one who developed the whole scheme. I feel like because of this, Kokichi knew everyone would still see him as the monster he tricked them into believing he was. It's sad and unfair yes, but it's an example of cause and effect.
If you think about it, some ways Kokichi speaks imply that he may have been an orphan or not close at all to his family. That's just my personal observation. And another is that when Shuichi shows the idea that Kokichi is alone and he always will be, Kokichi brushes it off after not speaking for a moment almost seeming hurt, like he actually wants to have a good relationship with the others despite his trust issues.
Whoops adding on- Kokichi may also have an intention for lying. If you noticed, when Kokichi and Kito died in the 5th chapter, there was no grieving for Kokichi, only Kito. I keep feeling that it's like he was ready to sacrifice himself, as if he was trying to make himself so unlikeable that people wouldn't miss him if he died
There's also the fact that Kokichi seems to have some kind of complex about being boring/interesting such as his last words to Kaede were "at least you weren't boring" or his last words to Kaito "at least I wasn't boring right?" It shows through his childish mannerisms and his ultimate lab. Plus his entire organization is like a circus, an entertainment for himself and others. I'm not entirely sure what this means since we know nothing about his past but just wanted to point it out.
Chay Cortright True. If he is an orphan it would explain why he's very child-like which could make up for his lack of a real childhood. What confounds me is why the villain persona and fixation on lies part(which is basically his entire character lol)
Allison I have kind of a pet theory in that regard. I think he grew up, maybe in an orphanage, watching TV shows where the villain was always the one who is badass and in control. So it made an impact on him, and that's what he wanted to become. I think weeby kind of hit The nail on the head with the lying though.
Chay Cortright Oh yeah that makes sense! It reminds me of this character from One Punch Man who looked up to villains/monsters. Also it's been a while since I watched this so I kind of forgot parts of it. I think weeby said the constant lying was due to Kokichi's trust issues is that right? I feel like I'm missing something
Chay Cortright "If he was an orphan, that would probably be his only way of getting attention. Being both interesting and a troublemaker." Basically Naruto when he was a child. He would play pranks on people to get attention and I'm pretty sure he wanted to become Hokage to be recognized and appreciated.
I feel like insanely complicated characters (like Kokichi and Nagito) are such a double-edged sword in the Dangaronpa fandom. Some absolutely hate them, and some absolutely love them. I personally think that characters like these are really make these games so good and special. Danganronpa has some of the most unique and complicated characters I've ever seen. I really love how multi-layered your analysis videos are, and they really help people to understand these characters and their real motivations better. So thank you for making these, and I hope your future videos will be successful.
i'm late af but i'm a sucker for complex characters, and i mean real complex characters not just overall "cool" and DR really shown me 2 of the most complex characters i've ever seen.
Yes,I really like how complicated the characters because truly none of them are completely good people and it negates our human need to see good and bad when really,nothing is as black and white as it may seem
I LOVE well-written complex characters. That's why Nagito and Kokichi are my absolute favourite characters ever. I love how they're not just black and white. They're not good guys, but they're not bad guys either. These two characters are ridiculously well-written, it seems like Spike Chunsoft have a specialty at writing complex antagonist characters
@@shuyotirah9132 I get that it's your opinion, but in mine I dont consider not being able to stand on your own and having to carry the antagonistic force of the story exactly well-written
Haze The Meme I love him to he is the best I saw the video on my reminder tab and I stopped watching the video I was watching and taped on it then saw the video was 30mins and said yasssss!!!!!! *Tap* he is the best and Don't forget it
I just feel so much for these characters that are hiding behind a mask pretending to be happy. Kokichi is such a complex character at that too like ugh I need some canon redemption for him instead of that sudden death and forever seen as a shithole and hated. He’s so misunderstood and I have to give kudos to you for this kinda-unbiased analyzation of kokichi. I can agree with a lot of things you said in the vid.
Ko Ri and it makes it so much more tragic how he knew he’d forever be hated, and even had the chance to change that and cause the others to feel bad about how he was treated, and yet died like he did anyway and so painfully at that
Koki Maybe... the reason why he was so hated was because he manipulated a well liked and kind person (Gonta) into a murder that could EASILY be prevented by telling everyone (Miu) all for the sake of looking evil to the rest, jokes about it, and then punches a dying guy and laughs about it.
Dove Sadly, I don't think telling everyone would have prevented a murder from happening in chapter 4; no one would have believed Kokichi (which I believe he was aware of), considering how much of a liar he was. :C
@@cleibarnhart well it's kinda his fault for going around antagonizing everyone and making them uncomfortable and making things difficult. You guys are sugarcoating a little
@@sytriy Yeah but they were all sceptical of going there and If Kokichi brung sufficient evidence to the table, he would have made them more hesitant to go. And even if that didn't work, which I swear it would, he could have just not gone and pulled his UwU disappear boy act
He was an amazing antagonist, and honestly an amazing character overall. this analysis just proves that. I dislike when people call him a “copy of nagito”, it just pisses me off.
I can see why they compare them, they are both troublemaker of their own game and both use their own method to end the killing game once and for all in the last trial of eac respective series, but man their personality and complexity its so different from each other there's no compare when it comes to that.
@h̳y̳u̳n̳j̳i̳n̳s̳i̳n̳d̳e̳x̳f̳i̳n̳g̳e̳r̳ヅ it's funny you say that, it mean you didn't properly read V3, he is way better in personality than Nagito who is full blown psychopath with no empathy and the only thing he care about is Hope like a maniac, he only looking his classmate by talent and after knowing Hajime has no talent he immediately talked shit about him as if he looking at a dirt. Kokichi scheme actually for greater good, it actually hinted after Gonta execution that he feels grief for his dead and the end of the game he actually despise killing game and feel sorry for all participants killed, he actually one of the most selflest guy who sacrifice himself to expose mastermind in the end unlike Nagito who only fueled with "Hope" to the point he want to kill everyone just because Hajime and the others are remnant of despair.
@h̳y̳u̳n̳j̳i̳n̳s̳i̳n̳d̳e̳x̳f̳i̳n̳g̳e̳r̳ヅ all of those are all lies, him treating killing game as "games" or "enjoyments" is all lies, why do you think Kaito want to work with him? Because he knows what Kokichi think and he genuine feel bad, he must act like a dick so that mastermind didn't focus on him, he must become lunatic or else the mastermind will see through his plans, he tried to act as the very evil within the game so he can trap the mastermind into commiting foul withing it's own rule. He is not evil or jerk at all, he must act like evil or jerk for the sake of ending the killing game once and for all, during Kaito flashback at 5th killing game it explained that Kokichi never want to act as evil but he must so he can fool Monokuma to think that he work for him while in actuality he is not and trapped him with his own rule, it would work but Shuichi is insensitive and ruined the plan, although Kokichi already predict it anyway according to Kaito. I suggest you replay 5th killing game and read Kokichi's dialogs throughtly you will notice that he never want to be big bad and rather force to do it
I think Kokichi is an antihero for this case. He's a hero; he wanted to end the killings. The problem is he does it through rather morally ambiguous or straight-up immoral means. By definition, an antihero is a hero who lacks conventional character traits a hero has, and for me, Kokichi fits the description. He's the hero who didn't get much credit until posthumously.
@@waldien5802 I kinda feel bad for the guy, really. The killing game put so much mental stress in him that his worst was forced out. He was most likely simply a lying prankster - probably someone boring without a true "identity" to make him interesting (quote “At least I wasn’t boring, right?”) - outside of the killing game, but the emotional torture combined with his flaws of selfishness (debatable?) and distrust led to his breaking point. He wanted to end the games, and he deduced the possibility (and then existence) of an audience by seeing through the lies of the Flashback Lights, so he did it by doing the thing he does best: piss people off (the hypothetical audience and the masterminds of Team Danganronpa) and push them away from him. He stooped down to the level of Monokuma to beat him, through the same tactics of manipulation and deception and then, killing. Imagine if he lived to Chapter 6. Imagine if he was there during the big reveal. He'd LOSE HIS SHIT TO THE POINT OF INSANITY. He'd be forced to reflect on his actions - the same actions that were as fictional as he really was, bound to a tight script made by Ultimate Real Fiction for entertainment. His fears of an audience would be realized, and in the end, even "Kokichi Ouma" was a lie after all. Poor guy. His actions were insane and horrible, but I can't 100% just blame him. He should be in therapy, not in a fucking murder game. He had good intentions, but was forced to show it through horrible means.
That's exactly what I think. He's a hero, but not in the way you'd expect. He most likely had a rough life before the killing game, making him be who he is now in the killing game. It'd honestly be really physiologically stressing for anyone that doesn't know the truth of humanity to participate in something like a killing game. I kin both Kokichi and Shuichi, because I act like both of them, so I understand both of their actions. He can honestly be a really understandable character if you really look at his situation.
I have to disagree about Kokichi not wanting any friends. I believe that he cared a lot about Gonta. Unlike him Gonta is very trusting and kind. The complete opposite of his facade. However this is most likely what he wants to be. I believe that his teasing to Gonta is his way of being jealous. However I believe that he cares a lot about Gonta. This is proven when he momentarily stops doing his villain persona when he says something roughly like, “you all probably think it should have been me huh. Everyone hates me. So the role of villain is perfect for me.” Another quote is when he says to Gonta, “ wait if he is gonna die then I want to too. I prepared for it, I-.” And “ Gonta! You can’t leave me too.” But then agian this is just my opinion.
I read off his page and it said he really did care a lot about Gonta. He didn’t want Gonta to be executed. After Gonta’s execution (I think), you know how he started acting all evil and twisted again? He felt a rush of anger and guilt in him that caused him to lose parts of his sanity, making him act like himself again. Because of that, he lied about fake crying or that he didn’t care about Gonta, when in reality, Kokichi actually cared so much about Gonta. I honestly don’t know if it’s true, I just read it off of his page.
He might have cared but i dont think they could have been friends? With oumas rational personality he has so little in common with someone like gonta that there is no way they would ever be able to have any kind of meaningful confersation or friendship Gonta needs someone patient and willing to babysit him through everything And person like ouma needs someone more on his level (also intelectual) a person that he can learn from and that can keep him entertained (Sorry, i really understand why people like gonta but pairing him with ouma feels just kinda like a waste of oumas talents and all of the good traits)
@@crinsombone5380 actually Kokichi had a good reason for doing that. Thanks to his Avatar settings he couldn't do anything to go against Miu, he could have not showed up to the meeting, but then Miu probably would've come up with another way to kill someone since she was desperate. He also couldn't tell the others because i really doubt they would believe him.
@@thatstheteasis5072 bunny luv Miu doesn't have too much common sense, so if he didn't get everyone to go into the virtual world she likely wouldn't be able to kill anyone. He could've also just shown her what was actually in the outside world. As for not telling the others, I always hear this as an excuse but people seem to forget that it's his word against Miu's. It's not like he's trying to tell everyone that Gonta wants to kill someone, this is Miu we're talking about. I would trust her more than him, but if you told me she wanted to kill Kokichi I would believe you right away. It was his fault that Miu and Gonta died. He got them in the virtual world, he kept the secret of the outside world from her, and he convinced Gonta to kill Miu. Even if I'm somehow wrong, just the fact that he didn't at least try shows what kind of person he is. Killing should be the absolute last resort
Having been abused myself as a kid and kicked a lying habit that was my security blanket I can agree with your analysis however I don't think kokichi was an orphan quite the opposite I think he knew his parents but wishes he didn't because they tormented him and he often had to lie to pretend he was ok he probably created Dice as an escape with his closest friends kinda of like one big childish game
At least that’s Tsumugis backstory for him anyway, or might be... Ahhh I really want to know Kokichi’s real past, like is DICE even real or was it all just a brainwashed backstory for him? All their memories we’ve come to know were made up... Or maybe only partly made up? Or maybe they were just exaggerated versions of the truth. Guess we’ll never know. And did Kokichi know? He was smart and I’m pretty sure at some point he realized the memories from the lights were fake, I wonder if he thought “guess everything I know about my past is a lie...”
@@koemi0199 This is just my headcanon but it's backed by some evidence so treat it as theory. When Tsumugi reveal their true backstory before becoming fabricated character for killing game, their true personality before killing game is the opposite of what they are currently, Kaede was once has negative outlook on life and basically given up humanity but become complete opposite as Ultimate, the same applies with Kaido who basically want to become killing maniac who want to get the most kill counts but instead become the best bro who helps other survive as Ultimates. All of this is being told by Tsumugi herself and with that maybe you can imagine how he was before becoming Ultimates?
@@sigmaenjoyer7020 it's an interesting theory but I think it's false ,at least from ma point of view, simply put they where all so obsessed with danganronpa that they sounded like psychopaths in the pregame tap that TSUMUGI showed them (it could be another lie as far as we know) ,iiii honesty don't think they where opposite rather say "exaggerated " where they already had this personality but doubled to million ya got me m8?
@@koemi0199 hopefully we have a game or anime to clear stuff up Like dr still has alotta lose ends that needs to be tied ,its has a huge fandom that is laterly growing by the second so I don't rlly get why would they not :v
@@Harukaluin19 nah, i could say the same to you,what if it's real? What if that interview is not a lie? Because we know Tsumugi doesn't lie about everything like for ex, about the killing game is fictional and all that. Well there are no concrete answer since both of us could be wrong.
This detail may not be all that significant, but the thing that made me start to question whether or not Kokichi was truly evil was when he got Himiko to express her emotions. After the trial where Angie and Tenko died, he talked about how he hated liars and noted that Himiko was bottling up her emotions, which inevitably led to her breaking down and crying for the first time. While he did do it in a way that seemed mean-spirited, it would be hard to fathom why he would even go out of his way to get her to express herself and stop bottling up her emotions. It was my interpretation that this was his way of helping Himiko while also keeping up with his villain persona.
I’m so glad someone else had the same idea! I totally agree! I think he noticed Himiko begin to get too close to the point-of-no-return, and so he made her let it all out. I think he was able to notice this and wanted to do something about it because he knew the feeling all too well. Poor guy. 😔
KIWIMAN47 I can imagine his relationship can be summarized as follow: -Kaede: Not boring but not too exciting either. -Shuichi: could be or couldn’t be gay for him. -Nah, totally gay for him- -Kiibo: Robot can’t have relationship with human silly. -Miu: Cum dumpster pig.
i am VERY biased as he’s one of my favorite characters but here goes. 1. ouma is very untrusting, so he uses lies to keep others at bay. the reason he’s so interested in saihara is because he’s the only person who’s gotten close to figuring him out. i mean, he busted his head open and passed it off as a joke to hide his vulnerability 2. he may have enjoyed the trials, but he despised the killing game. he pushed everyone away to make it easier to end it, willing to let his own life end. unlike kaede, who was willing to end someone ELSE’s life outright (as he had gonta kill iruma because he thought he didn’t have another choice) 3. he’s smart: really smart. he figured things out no one else could or figured them out sooner, but didn’t use this against the other super high school levels 4. all in all, he’s just a vulnerable kid with severe trust issues. he’s selfish and doesn’t always go about things the right way but he’s not a bad person in the end. not really the same but you can compare him to gundham: they both had villain personas despite their true natures. these kids have all been through a lot. he’s an incredible character and i love him a lot for it. (: great video weeby! you’ve already done videos on most of my favorite characters (kirigiri, asahina, sonia, hinata, kazuichi, kuzuryuu, komaeda, saihara, ouma, tenko, and kiibo) but any of those you haven’t i’m down for lol
Its sad to see people despising Kokicki when he tried to end the killing game before even Kibo did something. They see Kokicki as a manipulative liar when hes so much more then that. They really need their facts checked >:/. Kokicki is one of my favorite characters, and will forever will be. ❤
@@misaki8922 if anyone needs their facts checked its *you*, I don't hate kokichi and I kinda like him but quit trying to excuse his actions. Just accept them and move on
1. I think the reason he's so interested in Shuichi was because he was strong enough to push his emotions aside to find the truth, which is something he goes on about constantly 2. Kaede was actually willing to kill the mastermind and once she realized it was Rantarou she *KILLED* she decided to participate in the class trial, both to give everyone the courage to move on and reveal the mastermind. Pretty selfless if you ask me 3. I think you've got him confused with Nagito. Yes hes smart, but not someone so intelligent it's like he has actual clairvoyance, like Nagito 4. I feel like you're sugarcoating a little, he is by no means some innocent little kid
I did like Kokichi a whole lot more than Nagito. Especially when Gonta was about to die and he volunteered to be executed as well to make Gonta feel better. Nagito was out right cruel to the person that he incited to murder. When Teruteru was about to die, he was like “Oh you will be a perfect sacrifice to bring salvation and glory to all of us who will get to live and grow old and do all of the things that you will never be able to do.” So I like how Kokichi at least hid his malicious side from Gonta before he died as way of apologizing of sorts (maybe).
+Mujtaba Walji Interesting. Do you think you can say why that is. I never thought of Kokichi being like Fuyuhiko before. (Other than the criminal leader idea.)
GenericCZcamsComment Channel he started off antagonising the group. Both hid their emotions from the rest of the group, pretending they hated the others when they didn't really. They also had their "villain personas"
+Mujtaba Walji I see. I guess that works. I see him as Nagito’s parallel because he and Nagito act all happy and friendly to the group when their actions are crazy. They also both pushed someone else to murder (Nagito=Teruteru and Kokichi=Gonta). Both of them also used someone else to kill themself and tried to turn it into an unsolvable murder in the fifth trial. Both of them have implied romantic feelings for the main character too. I do understand why you feel he resembles Fuyuhiko though. It was an interesting insight.
well i think ouma really did wanted to get executed but for komaeda: he is very self sentered when it comes to hope he believes in sacrifises and doesnt really have someone special to him thats why he cant empathise with others (+ bc of his illness) while kokichi did have special ppl to him
I feel like Kokichi is the most complex but most humane person in the game. Kokichi wasn’t a goody two shoes but he wasn’t a complete villain. He had his reasons and honestly , that’s why he’s my favorite character.
@@nuttynutsnutstache because he had good intentions in the end, sure the way he got there was quite inhumane but the end result was something a hero would do
@@Teakettlez A hero would do? Yeah, but you're forgetting something.. the way he got there.. was only in chapter 5. Everything before was completely unjustified. He has no redemption, also, he failed. Unlike another antagonist that sacrificed themselves in the fifth chapter..
@@nuttynutsnutstache still he’s not a complete villain cause he wanted to end the game, a villain would not want that. Sure he failed ig and sure how he acted and what he did was terrible he’s not a full on villain idk i would classify him as an anti hero
@@Teakettlez He's literally the antagonist throughout the whole game. Pretty sure thats a villian. Also, EVERY single character that's not the mastermind wanted the game to end. Smh.
I had a love, hate relationship with kokichi but in the end, I knew deep down he had good intention, he just had a weird way of showing it. I still miss him like crazy. ;(
Kokichi is the embodiment of what Danganronpa has quietly considered its greatest sin since the beginning: accepting a comforting lie over a painful truth. He runs from truths he doesn't like and fell into the trap of comforting himself with the criminal mastermind persona, and in the process fully became the monster who kills and makes everyone around him suffer. He wanted to end the killing game at all costs, but didn't trust anybody else to willingly help and wasn't too concerned with who got sacrificed in his attempt. In short, he's a much more obnoxious Celeste.
Ohhhhhh my godddddd this is exactly what I wanted to see. Likeable or not, I think Kokichi is one of the best written characters in Danganronpa and honestly this pretty much shows why all of my interest towards him feels right. I loved how you compared and contrasted Kokichi and Kaito and their views of one another as well, their directly contrasting personalities is what really made both the fourth trial and their dynamic as enemies so entertaining to watch, both for giggles and for how far they're willing to go to prove each other wrong. Beautiful stuff here. If I had to suggest another character for analysis, Rantaro and Tsumugi are immediately the ones that come to mind for obvious reasons. But, if I were to recommend something simply based on how much I like them a Miu or Keebo analysis would be amazing.
Honestly I see people say he's a bad written character just because they don't like him but, there's so much depth and complexity in his character that I can't help but wonder how they came into the conclusion
Little bit of added Kokichi stuff, I just replayed the first chapter, and Kokichi is actually surprisingly helpful. Like, when he helps with Kaede's pep talks a few times, and he's like the most excited when they think Monokuma is dead.
The more information i know about Kokichi's lying behavior the more i feel sympathy and sad for him, he used his mountain of lies to cover up his insecurity, severe trust issues and motives. I'll like to acknowledge Kokichi as a vulnerable and emotional person. I genuinely think the few times he look sad or troubled after someone got executed or murdered , may actually be the real feelings his been hiding from the others. I noticed everytime he starts showing sympathy or any other emotions, his just started smiling or laughing out loud ,to the others Kokichi will seem like a total jerk who have no morals but in reality his suffering. *My baby Kokichi is suffering!!* 😭😭
Spoilers Kokichi: *sacrifices himself to end the killing game* Everyone: thanks kaito for ending the killing game Also kokichi: *am i a joke to you?* Note:i *didn't* make this comment to hate on kaito so please don't hate on him :)
I mean, the plan was executed by both of them, and with Kokichi being dead, I imagine them thanking Kaito. Also, the fact that Kokichi pushed away everyone since the beginning of the game didn’t help the others remembering him as an amazing person, I get your point, just trying to understand Shuichi’s and the others view
On the topic of the 人にやらされるゲーム line, the sentence is frustratingly vague in Japanese BECAUSE it can be taken both ways without a kanji there to help clarify the verb, which I think was the point in the Japanese script : 1)人に やらされる [people are made to do] + ゲーム[game] = a game people are forced into (assuming this is the standard する version of やる) OR 2) 人に殺らされる [people are made to kill] + ゲーム [game] = a game where people are made to kill (assuming it's 殺る) But regardless, this one moment wouldn't have really been an issue on its own. Translation and localization is VERY difficult, and I am the first person to come to the defense of translators who try to localize text to better help Western audiences understand the story, even if it means adopting tones and taking liberties with how lines are translated. However, the point of localization is to translate the IDEA, and in this case I think NISA's translators could have done a bit better at times. In my opinion (as someone who played it in early 2017 in Japanese and was rooting for NISA's translation) the English translation didn't seem to have a clear idea in how they wanted to characterize Ouma, or how they wanted other characters to react to him. The fact that fans have such polarized opinions of him only speaks to that idea more. There were multiple instances in the English script that overemphasized the villainous/childish side of Ouma to the detriment of the more ambiguous aspects of his character. To go back to the chapter 5 flashback scenes, the thing that bothered me wasn't the lack of a strict adherence to direct translation, but the TONE that the dialogue took at times. In the Japanese version, when Momota is recounting what happened, he shows far more conviction in trusting Ouma. In the English version, he comes off as more flippant, rude, and unsure about their partnership. The English script has Momota insult Ouma on several occasions that have no basis in the original script (ie. あいつはそんな生易しいヤツじゃねーよ/"He's not the kinda guy to let me off so easily" vs "It was kind of hard to ignore such an annoying guy" OR あいつは筋金入りの嘘つきだったぜ/"He was a staunch liar" vs "He was a lying sack of shit" LIKE?? WHAT???) When characters take such drastic tones, it will no doubt color the players' views as well. A good story does this purposefully, and it was absolutely the original script's intention to fake the player out about Ouma's true intentions. I just wish the English translation hadn't taken such harsh translation liberties that might have lead players too far away from those intentions. Ouma's not a purely good or evil character, and his gray morality is a strength to his character and to the story as a whole. His role as the sort of "background deuteragonist" could have been better supported in NISA's translation, so while I don't HATE it, I am disappointed by several of the choices they took. However, I still fully appreciate NISA's commitment to bringing the game overseas, since I think it's the strongest one in the series and I would have been devastated if non-Japanese speakers hadn't been able to play it as well!
Wow, the English translation took a much harsher approach, I wonder why. They could’ve taken the ambiguous approach that it was originally but it didn’t, which makes me mad. Personally, when characters are more ambiguous, they’re more open-ended and mysterious, which makes the character more fun since you can take creative liberties and form theories of your own on how they really are on the inside. Hhh I really want to learn japanese now tbh so I can understand all the dialogue and all the ambiguous parts of his personality
Also, building off onto the idea on Maki, I also think why Ouma might of isolated her so much was because he was trying to protect the others as well. Who would be the most likely blackened of a game where you're suppose to kill each other than the Ultimate Assassin herself? By isolating her so much, the other wouldn't be able to lower their ground down around her, making her job even harder to do. That's my opinion anymore :/
>Who would be the most likely blackened of a game where you're suppose to kill each other than the Ultimate Assassin herself? Ironically, that probably wouldn't happened. It's like with Genocide Jack - she would be an obvious suspect. And even she'd still managed to hide her talent, she is still cold and asocial girl, doesn't strike as very trustworthy.
I agree with almost absolutely everything you said. Except for the one word you used to describe Ouma a few times. *Selfish*. Now, I understand why you might have believed this. After all, many of his plan and goals looped back to one thing- himself. But I feel like in some places, instead of saying “selfish”, the more accurate description would be “vain.” Ouma wasn’t selfish, to me. He did what he did because he was opposed to murder, which implies he either believes human life to be precious, or something like that. If he was selfish, he would have tried to end the killing game purely for his own safety. But vanity, a faith so strong in one’s own skills and talent, explains perfectly why Ouma did everything by himself, along with his trust issues. He might have learnt to trust someone, anyone, but his firm belief that only *he* had the ability to end the killing game cemented his lonely yet efficient plan. This also explains how someone so untrusting could think of Saihara as maybe a trustworthy person. He noticed Saihara was able to do the same thing as him without lying, and figured he might be smart enough to trust. But Ouma believed Saihara couldn’t help with the plan, on the sole basis that he could accomplish the plan better himself. I’m tired, so my logic isn’t very good, but long story short,,,,,, he isn’t selfish, he’s more vain imo. Idk just a thought-
Kokichi's ultimate plan was to make everyone in this 'incompetent' group to depend on Shuichi. Once he confirmed it in ch4, he would kidnap Shuichi's best friend Kaito to lure him into a situation where he is forced to assist Kokichi. Shuichi would kill Kokichi and have Kaito spout his 'Power of Trust and Friendship' bullshit to have himself be voted instead of Shuichi "who is obviously not capable of murder". Who could have imagined that Maki would come first and shoot him with a poisoned bolt...
@@LocherYTOh true! Though.. at that point, Shuichi had pretty much lost the will to live. He would've killed himself if Maki hadn't shown up at his door. If Kokichi were planning to lure Saihara into helping him (and he definitely was based on his dialogue in chapter 4), then that was likely a backup plan if his initial mastermind speech didn't get to go through perfectly.
I think you're right about Kokichi's fear of Kaito's influence. Shuichi had planned to stop the killing game in chapter 1 and in chapter 6. Both times either he wasn't friends with Kaito or Kaito was dead while in between the two chapters he got comfortable and not as "agressive" or as hard worker. It is also interesting that the only ones who actually had plans to stop the killing game were Kokichi, Kaede, Shuichi (chapter 1 and 6), and Angie. Kaito didn't actually had a plan except to fight them. Angie was also interesting since if she had her way, the mastermind would of actually had to get involved. She already had a influence. Which is why my theory of one of the reasons Tsumugi became part of Angie's gang was to watch over her just in case.
Another character that also had plans to end the killing game was Rantaro. Kaito and Gonta(when he suggested himself fighting the exisals) and even Kiibo(when he tried to blow up the school) did want to try to stop the game as well, they're just not the biggest brainiacs out there so they wanted to go about it their own way (physical fighting). I think it's actually pretty cool how many characters there are in this particular game who had their own ways to try to break the killing game compared to the previous games. Even Monodam rebels and takes control of the game for a while. ...Another interesting thing about all these characters is that they all died within the same chapter they started rebelling or put their plans into action, the only exception being Shuichi...
SebisTheCat Kaito doesn't count. His plan was just brute force. Gonta also doesn't count cause Kokichi was the one who planned it. Keeboy also doesn't count since it was in the heat of the moment.
Yeah, they didn't have amazing well-thought-out strategic plans on how to stop the game, but they still wanted to attempt it anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Physical strength and brute force IS one way to do it, even if it's not always the most effective one (Kiibo might have succeeded if he kept going, even if it meant sacrificing the others as well) not arguing with you or anything though, i've just liked to think about how many different characters have tried to put a stop to the game or tried to take control over it in this one. Oh and with Gonta I meant when he was suggesting using himself as meat-shield and fighting the exisals at the start of the fourth chapter.
SebisTheCat But I did not said characters who wanted to stop the killing game. I said characters who planned to stop the killing game. There is a difference. Kaito, Gonta, and Keeboy didn't planned. The three of them were sorely influence by emotions and nothing more. It was really disappointing that Shuichi didn't planned anything in chapter 5 and just followed Kaito. In the first game, only Kirigiri had any plans. In the second game, nobody had anything unless if count Nagito in chapter 5. So it's interesting that in this game there were more players and less characters who are just there or only there to kill or be killed.
yeah, I totally agree it's pretty interesting that we had more characters this time around who really tried their best to beat the game instead of the other characters. Though... I do still think you shouldn't dismiss the characters who didn't have any long-term plans as just other characters to kill or be killed (though some of them were). After all this game isn't exactly chess or anything (they're not in a virtual reality world like last time so strategy isn't the only option anymore) so there is definitely room for more spontaneous/opportunistic players who instead of crafting well-though out plans thorough the game would rather jump at chances to do it in a way that they excel at. I don't think their plans were necessarily emotion-driven either since they seemed to have pretty clear goals and/or motives in mind when they attempted it (or wanted to attempt it)...but yeah.
honestly i didn’t like kokichi that much at first but then after his last words, i believed him and felt like crying. ( usually, i never feel that sad about a character’s death except for maybe kaede’s. ) thank you for this video! it’s good as always
same at first I wasn't too confertable with him, but I kinda got used to his trolling and he made the trails more enjoyble, and those last moments hits hard
A great analysis! Though I think him claiming his lies are told half out of kindness and his skill being "Kind Lie" would've been noteworthy, as well as more about his childish prankster side and his hatred of boredom he constantly brings up. Kodaka has also explained some things about him, like his character having a major focus on duality and that Kodaka apparently put more thought into Kokichi than any other character (because of the liar theme). He also explained that his first name "small luck" is meant to sound very humble and small, while his surname "king horse" is all grand and pompous. Kokichi's Japanese voice actor believes that Kokichi is actually really meek if you take away his strong wish to outwit everyone. While it's really not that noteworthy, I personally find his horse theme a pretty fun little trait, and some people don't seem to know it's a thing and don't understand the crowned horse mask in his room nor what his laugh refers to.
I just realized something. Kokichi wrote his message “This World Is Mine, Kokichi Oma” on the “Horse A” location. Judging by how he also knew where the “Twins B” message was (proven by his will to the other remaining students), he could’ve easily used that instead for his message. But he chose “Horse A” instead. And his last name has the word horse. Therefore, Kokichi has two horse themed things that he has/does. 😂
Kokichi is such an amazing character. He's so unique and amazing. There's no information on his past, nobody knows why he is a liar, nobody can tell if what he's doing or showing what hes feeling is true. And the fact he's both a pathological and compulsive liar, he is such a compulsive liar he puts his life on the line as well as others. Like when *spoilers* he said he killed Angie when in fact he didn't. He kept up the act saying he killed Angie til there was solid proof he didn't.
Yeah I don't think the fact that he has no backstory isn't a good thing. Nagito felt natural as a villain and didn't feel that forced for some reason Yet kokichi just feels forced, like rip-offs of Nagito and Celestia combined, and always carrying the antagonistic force of the story and unlike kaito or kaede, the theme he embodies just doesn't feel natural because there isn't even a vague explanation of his actions
@@bombaymessyasf and the creators wanted to make him ambigious. What did you expect? And he is not a rip-off. He is nothing like Nagito or Celeste. Naybe Celeste because he lies but not Nagito
@@YightLagami He's the only good part of the story. Despite being having a similar role to nagito he's the only source of entertainment and conflict We almost didn't have a choice but to pay attention to him
Ouma is such a good character, and it's so impressive to see a 'love to hate' character who's still (arguably) a good person deep down. I wound up being really attached to him by the end of the game, partly because of how his character was presented, but also because he's made me start to work through my own deep seated trust issues and compulsive lying. This video was seriously phenomenal, thank you so much for all the effort you put into your analysis videos; it really shows, especially here. Also, if you're taking suggestions for the next analysis, a video on Rantaro would be awesome! He doesn't get anywhere near enough love from the game, but with the small amount of screen time he gets in the main story, as well as the scenes from Salmon Team and the love hotel, I ended up really loving his character. Plus he's really pretty, so that helps. Oh, and a Himiko video would be a lot of fun too. Now that I think about it, you really can't go wrong with V3's cast, can you? lol Also also, are you at all familiar with the plot of DDLC? I feel like it'd be kinda impossible not to be spoiled on it by now, and I think a series where somebody already knows what's going on could be really fun. Can't wait for the series ^.^
@@chyuuix yeah but i dont think he regretted hes really an idealist thats why i dont think hell feel regret "i wasnt boring, right?" maybe he feel sad for gonta but he probably thought "ok i must focus my job(stop killing game)" time to act I waaasnnntt eveeen saadd
Kokichi really didnt expect Gonta to lose his memory. Kokichi tried his damn hardest to make sure he found the Flashback Light first and have Gonta make the decision for himself. But because Gonta forgot, it's like he is sentenced to death because his parallel universe version of himself randomly decided to kill someone in cold blood.
Ouma's very complicated. He's neither a purely good person nor a purely evil person. Like a lot of characters in DR, honestly, but people apparently can't handle morally grey characters.
Wow wow wow you can really tell the amount of time, effort and research was put into this video! Personally, I think a sequel in the future would be awesome but maybe wait a bit since you already spent so much time on this bad boy. Ha I'm sure you're absolutely sick to death of Kokichi after this
Vienna Savage The effort that went into the editing, the research, the script and the well formulated arguments. It's not easy to make a well produced 30min video by yourself.
Why would I want to be on her good side? I comment on most of the videos I watch because I like to let creators know that their videos are good. Why do you have to be such a dick about it?
I think Kokichi's actions was affected because of the motives. He became even more insane because he has seen his D.I.C.E friends get thrown in prison and seeing the outside world in shambles (making him believe that his friends in DICE already dead).
I think at some point of checking the academy, he came across the secret tunnel leading to his Ultimate Lab with the complete history book. He would have immediately realized all Flashback Lights were fake. If i had to guess, it was even before ch4, because at that point he tried not to look at any Flashback Lights and deemed them dangerous.
Weeny this is something I'm not too sure about but I think you should know; In the talent development mode is that if your kokichi, and there is an friendship square is that ouma and kaito are talking then kaito would say "don't you have a family to spend New Years with" ouma would reply with " you shouldn't ask a supreme leader such persona questions" This is taken from the wikia page.. Just wanting you to know I think this is pretty big.
cavell kat That doesn’t mean anything though. It could be interpreted as Ouma having literally no family/Ouma having a bad relationship with his family/he doesn’t like talking about his family/he doesn’t like talking personal things to Kaito specifically/he’s just being a butt head and messing with kaito/ or he’s keeping up his “supreme leader” persona. It’s too vague
Hi a Japanese kokichi fan girl here! In japan the orphan idea is really popular actually! But my image of the people actually thinking is true are other fan girls and boys who want to imagine his past and not much people have exact evidence so it was cool to listen about it(: Good job with the video I loved it !!
logic seeker it simply said that when explaining what his organization was like, and would still possibly cause him to want to kill more because it’d make him miss his organization and worry about what happened to them
Not all motive videos were produced equally. If there can be a video that says that Ryoma has no one who loves him outside of the killing game, then I don’t believe that every video will motivate killing.
I always thought it was more a way to humiliate him. Like he builds himself up to everyone else to be the Ultimate Supreme Leader who has control of an organization that controls the entire world, but in "reality" he's just... what? A pathetic prankster who's pretending to be more than he ever could, and if it ever got out no one would ever take him seriously, because the thing about his lie about DICE is that it works because you're unsure if it's true. Like you know he has to be lying... but is he? If that motive video got out, he'd be humiliated. He didn't know this at the start and probably only remembered DICE's true nature after he watched the video, so he was basically cut down to size quite badly. However, I do think it's interesting that he leaves it lying out in the open for someone to find after his death.
the fact that kokichi plays/creates an "evil" character for himself kinda reminds me of gundham and how he also does that. i think the main difference tho is that gundham doesnt actually do anything really sinister (like manipulation) like kokichi.
I mostly do agree with this, but I may differ a little on how I interpret his selfishness. I do think he is selfish in some ways, such as justifying his ill actions or sacrificing other lives over his, but I believe the latter is only really because of their situation. I think he values his life far above most of the other student's because, like you said, he thinks that he has the best chance of stopping the killing game. Outside of these conditions, I think he'd be more concerned with other people's lives than he lets on. However, I am a little biased so who knows, heh. Aside from my terrible arguments, great analysis! I just want to give my misunderstood and needs-another-chance-or-a-few child a big hug because he's a little shit and I love him 😅
Claire Bennett agreed. He acts similar during TDP, but that doesn't mean he is the same. I remember how in disbelief he was that Gonta would call him a friend
I believe Kokichi felt ashamed of setting Miu and Gonta up to die. But I imagine this was his reasoning: If the killing games did end because the audience feels a despair of having their favorite show get ruined, then no more young adults/teens would be victims of the sadism the games put them through, because Monokuma wouldn't take any potential survivors, which would be hiding in undiscovered shelters (underground, in space stations, on moon, etc.), as coerced participants. If, for example, people die meaningless/boring deaths (i.e.: if Maki followed through with her word to make Himiko die painlessly, and did it in front of the others) the class trials could be short and boring because the players know from the start who the blackened is, so little to no verbal conflict will occur for the sadists to watch. Kokichi may value his life above other lives, but I wanna believe that he does show concern for their lives in a unusual (and probably twisted) way, like... if he thinks that it's better for people to die meaningless deaths (literally speaking, it could mean "meaningless to sadists because of how boring they are") than for them to be continuously taken from hidden shelters and being subjected to sadists. And in case you're wondering about the "continuously" part, I believe that if Kokichi believes death games are what people like, and if there are more survivors than what the flashback lights let on, this death game won't be the last if it doesn't end here, as far as he's concerned.
I need a sequel, this was a very well done vid and i'd love to hear more :3 I love that you pointed out the subtle differences in his villain act and his mindset throughout the game because it's hard to catch all of that while you're playing. It's nice to hear someone talking about Ouma and doesn't demonize him. (Or adore him no matter what) Since, i've seen this clouding other people's perception of him. People often use the 4th trial to dismiss any good will he might have had for the group. Or use the fifth trial to say he did nothing wrong. I felt the same way about the 4th trial, when he started yelling at Gonta, i think he was actually frustrated with the situation he had created because it felt so out of character for him to be causing this much distress to people. Since he only does pranks, not actual harm that would crush someone's life like in the 4th trial. About the motive videos. I kind of agree but i think Ouma wanted them to see the motives to perhaps ease the tension in the group as well. Because when there are secrets, people are on edge the whole time and that could cause a murder out of fear of their motive being found out (like in the first game) so it would be easier to just show everyone the motives so there's no fear. That's just my guess 😅 Another thing, i think the third trial was pretty telling too. He seemed concerned about Himiko holding back her emotions so he called her out on it. But of course he did it in a way that made him look really inconsiderate. My guess is that he really didn't want to show any kind of genuine vulnerability but still wanted to make his worries heard. Hope this isn't too long, it's always 4am here for the uploads so i might sound confusing xD
(WARNING: IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE ENDING OF THE GAME, THIS WILL SHOW SOME SPOILERS) | Sorry for bad spelling | P.S: This comment is long, it might take you a minute or more to complete reading it. :) Kokchi does have a bad personality, but. In Weeby Newz pinned comment, where it states: "although I don’t think Ouma thought of the others as his close friends, that doesn’t mean I think he didn’t care about them at all. I think he cared about the others on a human level as in he hated seeing them suffer alongside him. But he didn’t want to get too attached since he’s very untrusting along with the other things" I HIGHLY agree, because he does not want to be too attached with them, also. If you saw his motive video, it states he had 10 loyal people working for him, and how he saw them as a family to him, (or very close friends), but then, something bad happened to them. This must of made Kokichi heartbroken, you probably would if someone you were very close to died, or got kidnapped, or other bad stuff, you would be heartbroken like Kokichi. As you can see, (or read since you're reading this comment), Kokichi has a script where he has a sad past. Kokichi did suffer along with other people that he called "friends", Kokichi has been suffering too, and since he's a liar, he would probably lie about the "more you suffer, the more I enjoy it" part. Kokichi could be one of those people, he is very "kind", likes to play "games", "jokes" around with others, but his other side is pure evil, like he's a very insane person. I noticed that NO ONE made comments about his motive video that shows he had very close friends and something very bad happened to him. I felt like when Maki and Shuichi saw his motive video, they did NOT care about his dark past that was scripted for his character, even when Kokichi dies, they still didn't seem like they cared at all, and they still thought he was a liar when he said his dying words, and how he "tricked" Kaito into doing his plan to end the killing game. Also, I believe Kokichi DOES care about the others, but does not tend to show it, what I mean is (this is a theory)…: Kokichi did not want the other people to die like his very close friends (if his close friends died), he didn't like seeing them suffer, so it was probably a lie when he said "The more you suffer, the more I enjoy it", because he wanted to END the killing game because he could not stand the fact that he would see people be killed, and then another person get killed at the class trials. So, it would be 2 people he would watch get taken every time. So, Kokichi wanted to stop it so the remaining people could survive and continue their lives. He is actually willing to do it, even if it meant killing himself and not surviving with the others. My theory might prove he cares about the others. You do not have to agree with me, but this shows that Kokichi is not that evil even though it seems like it. | P.S: Thank you for reading all this.
I started crying of how he had to bear it until the end. It's so painful to see him in so much pain losing someone very precious and the others didn't even bother about how his life was meant to be if he wanted to live or dying. Reading this whole paragraphs just made me feel like more depressed than Ash's death.... Also this ash name is from Banana Fish. I couldn't stop mourning over his death in manga. It was utterly unforgettable
One thing I’d like to note that there could be a chance that he didn’t care about his motive video since it’s likely he knew what was going on and he kept foreshadowing the reveal and stuff so he could’ve just known it was another lie
Some people have said he asked to be punished with Gonta cuz he meant it. Honestly, I think he knew Monokuma wouldn't allow someone who isn't "blackened" to be punished as Monokuma said "only the one who commits murder is blackened." He might've cared though. I mean his fake crying looked childish and all "WAHHH!: and dramatic. But during Gonta and his last words, his crying expression changed to something that looked a lot more serious and genuine. (can't confirm for real/only speculation.) Same with his last words Personally though? I do think he did care for Gonta to some extent though and felt bad about using him. The point of Kokichi was that we never understood him or his true intentions in the end. I believe there is no proper answer but rather an open analysis. There has been some debate as to whether what he did was justified or not(personnally...no), whether he was really evil or not, or whether he really cared or not. I personally think that it's up to the player/audience. The themes of DR3 have been focused on belief, and truth vs lies. Rather than hope and despair. That's why I found Kokichi and Kaito one of the most important characters. They both had different ideals. "Don't trust everyone, they will betray you in the end." and "Believe in them, it's your own choice and fault for believing in them if they end up betraying you." Kokichi was cautious of Monokuma and SEEMED to be keeping up an act, but also told many lies (maybe because he couldn't trust others himself) While Kaito was pretty naive (though it worked out pretty well) and wanted to believe in his friends. When Shuichi says "You'll always be alone/Kaito has us" it honestly hurt me. I think the writers only made him say that to imply that Kokichi might've genuinely cared.(I mean it's not something Shuichi would normally say, nor does it fit how he would've responded to Kokichi." Honestly? If he wanted to win the game truly? I don't think he would've killed himself. (again this is only speculation) And keep in mind that he probably planned ahead(though they say he thought of it on the spot) Like, I mean honestly he was dying from the poison!! He wouldn't have enough time to write a whole damn script for Kaito. And why would he have a camera? (maybe he was planning on asking someone else, or doing it himself) I think that the game (in a way) is testing our ideals. He truly did seem to be 5 steps ahead, but at the same time Monokuma in every game has always been 10 steps ahead. Are we gonna have Kaito's ideals and choose to believe Kokichi's last words? (Though Kaito contradicts himself as he doesn't believe Kokichi... but understandable) or are we gonna have Kokichi's ideals and say his last words are a lie? I mean honestly though. He was gonna die. He didn't even know what the Remnants of Despair were! (I'm pretty sure he wasn't lying, it's implied the Monokuma gave the flashback light to the survivors(Maki, for her to kill Kokichi). He never actually killed anyone. They said he caused deaths of 3 innocent ppl. I agree that was horrible, but am refuting the innocent part. Miu planned to kill first, Gonta chose to kill(although his death personally might've been mostly Kokichi which made me hate him for a short while), and Kaito chose to cooperate and if Kokichi's planned worked Kaito wouldn't have died not to mention he was on death's door anyway. (But he knew Shuichi was smart as he seemed to test him in Gonta's trial, and he always seemed to predict right so maybe he knew his plan might not work) I don't think he really would've had anything to gain by lying in those dying words. No matter who you are, when you're near death, you USUALLY reveal your true self. I have so much more to say about this as there are other implications he was genuine and others he was not. Not to mention Kokichi died alone and untrusted, while Nagito got his comeback (anime spoilers: he was revived, and everyone forgave him) But of course, I believed that Kokichi's character was truly an enigma and another unsolved mystery left open to our speculation. Which is what I love about his character. But of course if I was in the game or he was a person in real life I probably would've punched him in the face. Woah this is a lot phew sorry.
I feel like Ouma didn’t really like the others as friends like you said, but he did acknowledge that they are (or were) living beings. I really think he has respect for the lives of others, maybe even a bit more than others that were in the game (like Miu and Kiyo). This kids leads me to believe that his “past” may have had an incident that caused him to view life and the lives of others highly.
I noticed something and it's been bugging me. The game makes it very very very clear Kokichi has three electrobombs. Maki steals one and uses it to get into the hanger and Kokichi uses one to disable the safety and cameras in the hanger. Thats one missing bomb. The bomb isn't in his pocket or his room. It obviously isn't in his lab and I'm pretty sure he didn't take it out of his pocket to die with the bomb. Once again Kokichi makes it clear he has THREE bombs. I want to know where it or what he used it on. Note; This is just me grasping for ways he could be alive because he's my favourite but actually that bomb could tie into a way he could still be alive. He is known for being amazing at hiding and if he had that bomb he could hide from all camera's. We never actually see Kokichi's corpse or him on the press just a lot of splatter from what could be paint. Thiss is just me hoping for the better, I know that chance is near 0 D: But still, where did the bomb go.
Kaito says it was crushed in the press along with the remote for the exisals. When I played the game, I thought this was a lie and we’d find them hidden somewhere, but it never comes up again so we’re forced to accept that as the truth. I think it would have been cool if we found out he used the extra electrobomb for sneaking around or if he left it for the remaining students to use, but alas.
This is such a good analysis! People always seem to (wrongfully) portray him as a "pure cinnamon roll" or "literal satan" and it's really annoying. I'm glad you acknowledge that though he has good intentions AND bad actions instead of trying to defend all his actions. I'd really love to see a Himiko Yumeno analysis. She gets so much hate just for "not appreciating Tenko" and being the Hagakure type survivor. I would really like to see someone explain her development throughout the game and her motivations and flaws.
Well, peoples can interpret him whatever they want to- Even if the interpretation of Kokichi who make me the most angry is the "kokichi is a psychopath I love him so much 😈" jejejwjskeoqowi n o My personal head canon is a cinnamon roll pregame Kokichi and a more complicated Kokichi in game-
I absolutely love kokichi's character. It's amazing to see how the writers put a lot of thought into each character. The series really doesn't get boring as it goes on. I thought that I was mind blown by trigger happy havoc, but oh man... v3. Love this series.
I might be wrong about this, but I think he's being genuine when his face turns red. Sometimes he'll cry & he looks normal, other times like in chapters 1, 4, & 5 his face is red. Like I said, I might be wrong.
im so sorry this got so much backlash!! i have literally never seen someone analyze and understand kokichi better than this video did, like genuinely!!! i thought i understood him very well but you knocked it out of the park with your thoughts on him. i love this SO much. know this video is a bit old but keep up the amazing work.
Backlash? I can imagine plenty of people having their own interpretations of the character, but I'd be really disappointed to hear that Weeby was attacked over it at some point. 😔
This is my take. A true leader does not have to be strong, he does not have to be rich, he does not have to have eloquent words... a true leader cares for their members... and the Ultimate Leader would care for them tenfold.
Definitely a great analysis, I can see the amount of effort you put into this. ~ I personally have the feeling that Kokichi a lot of times also actually would've wished for someone to actually understand his real intentions but at the same time was really scared of the same thing happening, henche why he has such a complicated relationship with Shuichi of whom he would've wanted to see through him but who never really understood him to the end. Also I think that at times he intentionally used these overdoing of emotional outbursts so that people clearly notice that he's just acting. He wanted to be seen as lying even when he wasn't. Sorta in a way of 'double lying'. I noticed these things a lot. For example after Rantaros death: His initial reaction to Rantaros death was him being really shocked but right in the middle of him stammering about how he cannot believe it, he switches to his 'villain' persona and starts loudly screaming out how he was sad that Rantaro got killed, bursting in tears making it really clear to everyone that he's just exaggerating and not taking this serious. So he's literally covering up that he cares by 'acting that he cares in a way that could only be interpretated as fake' which is something I find really curious when it comes to him.
I was just thinking abt this line the other day. You know how he says “I want to win this killing game even if it means dying myself”? Well technically that would make him less likely to kill someone. Because if he had killed someone he would’ve been executed and therefore would’ve lost. Ouma is smart. He was onto the ‘we are being filmed’ thing early on. So he would’ve known better than to kill others. Yes, he was selfish and used Gonta to kill Miu. He wanted to win but knew the game would continue if he were to be executed. (I’m not super smart, so if some of this doesn’t make sense pls let me know ^^)
I think he uses lies as a coping mechanism. When he saw Gonta dead and cried, he got afraid that he was too vulnerable and lied to pretend that he didn’t care. Then he tried to save everyone by doing case 5, but failed. RIP Kokichi. I bet Shuichi misses you
@@jaxon1670 what are YOU on about, when I talk about kokichi and his methods of doing things I only say what he could've done better to ensure a greater more effective result.
Kokichi and Shuichi’s relationship is a bit like Komaeda and Hinata: Kokichi And Komaeda both have a strong interest in the protagonist, with the protagonist finding them confusing and irritating however still seem to be intrigued.
Great analysis Weeby! I never understood why Ouma wanted everyone to watch all the motive videos (his included) if he was so fixed on keeping on that evil/villian persona. Because if you think about it, if he and Gonta actually succeeded at gathering everyone together to watch the motive videos he would've had to showed his as well, and since his motive video states that his whole "Evil Supreme Leader" act is all fake why would he want to show it? My best guess is the group would want to see his motive video too (especially Saihara who I feel would be very curious). And I feel like they (the group) wouldn't let Ouma trick or lie his way out of not showing it to them, I mean if everyone is showing their motive video he should too right. Yet he still got Gonta to capture everyone so that they could all watch the motives. Idk just a thought.
It's funny how kokichi wanted nothing to do with Hope and Despair so he walked the middle line, giving both Monokuma and the Ultimates some candy so they keep going. He got antagonised and hated to the point where it wouldnt be strange if he woke up dead while even the Mastermind himself would entice the others to kill him. At the very end Shuichi reached the conclusion that Kokichi arrived at, and chose neither hope and despair.
I'm watching this late 4 years later but one thing not mentioned is at the beginning of trial 4 (I think Gonta's trial) Oma asks Monokuma what will happen if the vote results in a tie and Monokuma says if that happens as long as one of them is right they are both the blackened, it's fine, whatever. So Oma was entering the trial with the hope that he could convince them to tie vote him and Gonta which was his plan and punish both of them. So his real wish was that he would have been punished in trial 4 but Monokuma went back on his words and only punished Gonta, causing Oma to cry... This is further supported by the fact that Oma pretty much killed himself in saving Kaito's life, where Kaito still had something to live for no matter how short of a life it was (going to space), Oma felt like he had nothing to live for, he had lost Gonta and lost his DICE followers (if they were even real). Even if the world still existed/ there were survivors as he suspected, he STILL gave up his life to get closer to defeating the mastermind. Oma was Chaotic Good alignment all along, not evil, and all of his lies had good intentions.
I would have like an analysis of the end of trial 3. I wanted to see an explanation on why kokichi helped himiko confront her feelings even though hecan't confront his.
TheSexyDevil I think he did this because he knew if he didn’t she’d give up on life even more causing her possibility of surviving to go down while also affecting the other students in a bad way mentally, and so he brought up her spirits and motivated her by forcing her to confront her feelings like that so as to avoid further complications.
Kodaka really made Kokichi’s character soooo well. The most powerful & smartest character is the Mastermind of course, but how smart Kokichi progressively becomes makes him a big target to the mastermind. I believe his strength was being able to outsmart the mastermind in which he did.
Can we have an o7 for Kokichi? He was shot in the back by a poison tipped arrow, shot in the arm with a normal arrow, nearly strangled twice, stepped through a floorboard, potentially felt mad after Gonta was executed, as he probably felt guilty for all of it, punched twice, nobody believed him, even when sometimes he was genuinely telling the truth, hitting his head, nearly fainting from blood loss, trust issues, etc. He needs a hug. Someone give him a hug. But hate him or not, we all have to admit two things. He didn’t deserve it. And. He rlly did done pack a punch when he done punched Kaito
The characters like byuakua, nagito, and kokichi are the type of characters I respect very much and who are beautifully written and do their job in the story very very well and I can't fucking stand any of them for all the right reasons
I've always wondered if Kokichi knew more than he let on. The example I often think about is after Shuichi left the Virtual World after rejecting Kokichi's offer to be partners. Kokichi commented "out loud" that he wouldn't give up so easily. He would've had no reason to say that out loud, especially if he thought they were being watched. So maybe he was trying to protect himself by making himself "interesting" to the audience. TV shows doesn't usually kill the fan favorites, right? I also wonder if Kokichi suspected his memories had been tampered with. Since he knew Monokuma's actions didn't match the memories from the Flashback Lights, I wonder if he began to suspect his own memories which would've added to his paranoia and unwillingness to trust other people.
It was in One of the Free Time Events... But the weird thing is: In the Japanese Version of the Game, MR wasn't Banned. The Main reason it became Unbanned, for the English version of the Game, is to Go alongside the Org-Artwork Release of the Card Question is Tho: How would one interpret the Free Time Event in the Eng Ver when it was Org in Japanese?
That was an amazing analysis! I appreciate how you fairly went over and debunked the criticism on that line - my Japanese isn't amazing but it seems clear to me that the person was pushing their own agenda rather than trying to provide an unbiased translation (the verb is pretty vague as you pointed out). I'm guessing the removal of the 'no-killing' policy in the motive video was a mistake on NISA's part, especially since it's explicitly mentioned in the trial as if the motive video had said that. Anyway, it's nice to see that you looked at both Oma's selfish (perhaps even arrogant) side, and his good intentions. I'm getting tired of people painting him as a pure cinnamon roll or a chaotic evil villain, he's a much more complex character than that. I never really could piece together why he acted the way he did in Trial 4 when he was partially to blame, so your analysis helped me understand that, thanks. I'd love to see a sequel on his relationships, since you did a pretty good job covering them even if it was brief. They might be more clear-cut than his motives/true thoughts, but they're still equally fascinating imo. There's a lot of really interesting characters in V3 to analyse, but the ones I'd personally like to see an analysis on are Tsumugi (I feel like her true persona shares a lot of similarities with her cosplayer/otaku persona, just far more extreme), Kaito (an excellent foil to Oma with very different flaws and strengths) and Korekiyo (very twisted, but also pure in how he still sees the rest of the cast as friends and doesn't see anything wrong with his beliefs and mindset).
I think Kokichi is such a popular character not because he's "edgy", but his character provides a wide scope for the imagination, which can be built and rebuilt based on what you believe or don't believe from him.
> Its currently 12 am > i have to wake up at 6 am tomorrow > open youtube > 30 minutes long video on kokichi ouma character analysis > cracks knucles > im gonna fall asleep tomorrow at clas
I never believed the whole "in the Japanese version he said this" for just one reason. Who's more likely to make a mistake? One person on the internet who _might_ know Japanese, or a team of four professional translators? I'm glad you offered some concrete evidence to finally end this debate for good though. Your next video should be an analysis of all the Love Hotel events. ;) ;) ;)
The misspellings are far more likely the result of a rushed production schedule than incompetent translators. The thing is that something similar to this happened in SDR2 with Komaeda's "mistranslated" confession, but there are a bunch of differences between that situation and this one. In this one, the _only_ source I could find was one tumblr post. One. Where as in Komaeda's case, multiple sources confirmed that he was about to say aisheteru. Multiple sources confirmed how strong the connotation was for that word. Plus, in that case, I still felt what the translators said was a fairly good translation, if mostly because there isn't a good equivalent to what he said in English. In other words, while you're correct that this happens in other games, I agree with logic seeker in this case.
The problem with that specific sentence is because the verb "yaru" in question has a wide range of meanings which differ from meaning "to do something" to "have sex" and "to kill". It is pretty vague and therefore several translations could pop up.
Well, one of the problems with translation is that, especially with languages with Japanese where meanings are more ambiguous and most things don't translate directly into English, a lot of liberties are taken to make the meaning make sense to an English audience. A lot of the times, lines are changed deliberately to something completely different, to keep the same vibes that the original line would have in Japanese and sound natural and fluid to an English speaker. That's why some lines are translated into English by official translators a lot less literally than some random person on the internet would.
seqka711 they don't even include some other things in the english version that shows how kokichi feels towards others. Like how he called saihara beloved and some other things.
Wait a bit there. There's a reason why corrections about what was said make sense. All translation work, when dealing with games and movies, needs to be localised. This means that we need to keep the overall meaning of it, but change the words so it makes sense for the cultural context of the destination area. Many expressions have a LOT of nuance. If you say the phrase "I was so eager to cut you off" after cutting a character's head, for example, this can mean two things: a metaphorical meaning (as in "I was eager to not talk to you anymore") and a literal meaning (as in "I was eager to splice your head from your body"). This would be untranslatable inside a game, because writing an explanatory phrase ("I was eager to never talk to you anymore by severing your head") would 1 - sound unnatural; 2 - miss the wordplay; 3 - deviate from the original intention of the writer. This is why many people rectify translations. Outside of the game, the original idea can be better explained without the constraints of the game media.
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Meant to say this in the video. I know a lot of people have VERY different interpretations of this character and most are very passionate about it. But please be civil with each other.
Anyways hope you guys enjoy the video. At this point I feel good about my interpretation, but I’m not sure I presented the ideas as well as I wanted too. I do want to make it clear that I’m not trying to justify Ouma’s actions at all. I do think he had good intentions but still he was a very selfish character overall. Especially seeing how the whole situation with Gonta played out. I also want to mention that although I don’t think Ouma thought of the others as his close friends, that doesn’t mean I think he didn’t care about them at all. I think he cared about the others on a human level as in he hated seeing them suffer alongside him. But he didn’t want to get too attached since he’s very untrusting along with the other things I mentioned in the video. Because of this he would attempt to stop the killings to an extent, but not fully enough to make himself vulnerable so that it jeopardized his life or final plan. I really think he was only willing to die if he thought it would directly end the killing game. Anyways if I wasn’t clear enough in other parts, then I can make a sequel or respond to any questions you guys have regarding it. Hope you guys enjoy though!
Weeby Newz next could you try Byakuya Togami from dangaronpa 2
Weeby Newz AMAZING I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS !!!
I would actually love to see a video on ouma's relationship with the training trio. It would be interesting to see your opinions on how he felt about them and how they felt about him.
Weeby can you kaito analysis next?
Weeby Newz After watching the entirety of the video I strongly agree with the entire analysis,.
I did think his feelings were genuine whenever someone died like Gonta,Rantaro as examples and he used that mask to hide his true feelings to the bitter end.
The relationship video you discuss I somewhat want to hear but at the same time it's seems pretty clear cut, Kokichi hates Maki for her talent and thinks Kaito is too good of a person to the point it can harm everyone else including himself because of his true belief and he trusted Shuichi because of his logic and reasoning to find the truth. The the entire dilemma between Kaito and Kokichi is one sides Pure belief which is mortally right but can result in the group doing as the mastermind wants which is to gain hope to fight the dilemma they're in, vs Kokichi pure logic which is the way end the killing game but at the cost of the groups trust and driving them to despair.
“At least I wasn’t boring, right?”
- Kokichi
Which chapter?
I believe after the fifth trial!
It's basically saying "You won't forget me, right?"
Dude, honestly it's fucking heart breaking 🥲
@@jupiter8570 When he died and Kaito pretended to be him, Kaito had a flashback to what happened that made him go along with what my broski said
Dude I loved him so much I he was like my comfort character😭
The Ouma line I'll always remember is from Chapter 1. "Half my lies are told with good intentions."
RandomRex6 yeah!! He’s got a lot of random lines like that that are pretty obviously true once you understand his true intentions but seem like obvious lies when playing it the first time around
No offense it’s “Oma”
@@EggTree7272 no no no, it's "oma", but with a particular accent (like this "_" )on the "o" of oma."Oma" itselfs, means "grandma" in germany. "Ouma" is also a correct form
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Actually, it’s Ōma. Ō = Ou, the macron just means it needs to be pronounced as the long o.
Potato lord Le it can be spelt both Oma (English) and ouma (Japanese) neither is right or wrong
I think there's so much conflict around Ouma's character because he's a complete contradiction to himself. He's a moral person who enforces it through immoral means.
True! Kodaka himself said that his character is heavily about duality.
Note his black and white scarf and how his hair and face invert colours in some sprites
i think he is a perfect personafication of the gemini sign itself tbh, i'm a gemini too and kokichi was the first dr character i could ever understand and even relate to to some degree, kokichi is gemini too so yeah
@@TheRedTessy interesting considering one of the hints kokichi leaves behind, which alluded to gemini as part of the answer for the puzzle.
@@AkiAutumn exactly!!
Poor Kokichi was strangled twice, punched twice, was shot with a poison arrow, and was stabbed with a regular arrow.
He may be a little shit but he has a huge pain tolerance-
Ya
@@charesling3849 and almost fainted from the bleeding
This is a description of my best freind
He's like fucking Fuyuhiko, he doesn't die easily
He prob has the highest pain tolerance out of his whole class 💀
Really like the idea that Kokichi realized that Gonta's murder was actually his fault and why he got progressively angrier during chapter 4. This would also help the fact of how he was willing to die in chapter 5 so easily. Possibly out of guilt for Gonta. Because Gonta is gentleman
@@Hotelecho2 No no, it's alright to hate a character!
@@Hotelecho2 thats why you need to watch character analysis before you rant like you're some anime einstein
@@Hotelecho2 ok
@@misty_ravy And that's why if Kokichi wasnt a dick none of this wouldve happened.
VERYYY low chance it was for gonta
Going back to the whole Kokichi and Kaito parallels, essentially:
Kaito wants to save everyone by trusting in the good, honesty, and openness within people
Whereas Kokichi wants to save everyone but knows no one can be trusted to follow through on any of their promises so he has to manipulate them in the right direction behind the shadows at any cost
DANG
Wow, Wait till one of my kokichi addicted friend read this!
And both of their beliefs are wrong, unfortunately. Kaito trusting everyone (except Kokichi obv) unabling them to figure out the true mastermind which is very close to them the entire time, while Kokichi's decision to trust nobody and keep on lying to others had ruined his original plan (the one where he tried to usurped the mastermind by 'taking' his role and end the killing game by revealing the mastermind's identity), and ultimately cost his life. He should have find someone to trust to; but then again, it's difficult to do so.
I think the reason why Shuichi succeed on revealing Tsumugi as the mastermind is because he gave the benefit of doubt on Tsumugi. To doubt is to trust, and neither Kaito or Kokichi did so.
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And ppl think we like Kokichi the best because he’s “hot” or just the “comedic” relief. The true reason why I adore Kokichi is what you just said. His character has the most depth and turns than any anime character I’ve seen. His twisted logic is so smart and almost like a master mind that it’s hard for me to completely take it all in. I feel like half of the kokichi kinnies like him for his looks or his humor and the other half likes him for his actual character.
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I agree
I also have a theory that whoever wrote kokichi’s “plot line” in the game was someone trying to end the killing game by manipulating a character from the inside, which is my personal explanation on y he’s so smart in the game, like seriously he’s a fucking genius! Unpredictable by the mastermind to, shame Maki was so trigger happy
Kokichi always did strike me as a character that was constantly covering up his own insecurities under a mountain of lies so nobody could realize when he's genuinely hurting. It makes sense that he's constantly getting reinforced for lying every time his weakness is mistaken for a ploy, even when if you closely look at the changes in Kokichi's behavior in every case you do notice a genuinely disturbing downward spiral that everyone except Kaito is completely oblivious to.
It is interesting that Kokichi's character arc is clearly a downward spiral as his lies corner him into a position where he feels forced to instigate murder and when Gonta is unwittingly robbed of his memories (and therefore his guilt) Kokichi seems genuinely disturbed for a while before retreating back into his cold mentality.
I just love how the way Kokichi's lines following Gonta's execution ambiguously sound like they could indeed be malevolent and deceptive... or broken, traumatized denial.
NotAGoodUsername360 I agree!
What specific points in the game do you think show him going down a disturbing downwards spiral? Besides the obvious (Chapter 4)
Kari's Small World Every chapter has at least one major milestone:
Chapter 1: Kaede's death (as pointed out in video)
Chapter 2: Failure of the Insect Meet And Greet scheme to make everyone watch the Motive videos (which the trial eventually reveals that it ultimately lead to a murder taking place). It's the first time Kokichi tries to take control of the situation, and it blows up horrifically in his face. I'm not sure if he realized what Kirumi had done when he held her up after the murder, but it seems likely. He does, after all, go out of his way to torment Kirumi at the end of the class trial by exposing her attempt to manipulate the class. That makes sense if Kokichi hated Kirumi for ruining his attempt to take control. This is also when he exposes Maki to the group at the risk of his own life just to gain some semblance of control.
Chapter 3: Kokichi makes a more concerted effort towards Tenko's murder than Angie's (which makes sense, seeing as Angie was another obstacle to his taking control of the game). He does seem to suspect Kiyo of having ill intent and volunteers for the séance pretty quickly. When Tenko is literally murdered right in front of him, he once again loses control and investigates pretty intensely after that. He must've been running pretty fast to have split his forehead open when he stepped and tripped on Kiyo's backup seesaw, after all.
And then Chapter 4 and 5 have the most obvious turning points.
There's also the progression of Kokichi's malevolent expressions that reflect his increasing insanity and desperation for control over the course of the game, culminating in that haunting dead-eyed, painted-on grin he gives after finally pulling off his hijacking of the game and claiming to be the mastermind.
NotAGoodUsername360 I see, I do see that now. People have mentioned that he may have been faking when he seemed spaced out after he fell, but I think he really got hurt and was in quite a daze for quite a bit.
He had to have been on the ground for a while, considering the pool of blood surrounding him
I just imagine Kokchi on the ground thinking: "I'm just gonna lie here in pain for a while."
@@karissmallworld2378 He might've had a concussion and wanted to wait for it to somehow go away because the trial was soon.
Something that could be important is Ouma's small stature. He doesn't look very intimidating, and if his past had potential threat to his safety such as living on the streets, he could've exaggerated his talent and DICE to protect himself. If lying was a defense mechanism he used to cope through childhood, it makes sense that Ouma would rely on deception so heavily
Lilah Fidler ye s !!! And the childish/prankster side to his personality as well, I really wish she went over that more
I've never thought of that before, but it makes sense to me! He constantly uses his size to his advantage, but it has its weak points.
Lilah Fidler oh shit I never thought of that! That does sound plausible
Lilah Fidler IT WAS ALL FAKE ;-; THEY WERE NORMAL HIGHSCHOOL PEOPLE
Let's not talk about that revelation from chapter 6 please... anyways, I imagine an offscreen scene between Kokichi and Monokuma as he's setting up the exisals to orbit Monokuma after he reveals the despairing truth about the outside world. Assuming Kokichi caught on to Monokuma's desire to induce despair, he could mockingly claim to do Monokuma a favor in a conversation like this: K: "Don't be angry at me. This is an apology for the last trial being boring!" M: "How is this an apology!?" K: "I can tell that your objective is to induce despair on everyone, so by revealing the outside world to everyone, I've plunged them all into the depths of despair! And now, someone (or everyone) will kill themselves or kill someone else because they lost all hope and reason to escape!" M: "Ok look... I do want to inflict despair, but not like this! This is boring! You're making the game BORING!" K: "As long as there is despair, you can't possibly get bored right? Someone like you... can never get bored of despair. Well, good night Monokuma!" *Walks away with an evil laugh* M: "Hey! Come back here right now! You'll pay for this Kokichi! You'll pay for turning my despair against me! *Graaaar!*" Basically, Kokichi revealing the truth of the outside world might have created a despair that isn't fun for sadists in chapter 5. Instead, that despair is designed for ruin and discouragement (ruin the killing game to discourage people from enjoying it).
I feel like Kokichi was done so dirty by the survivors. He made the plan, probably from the very first moments, and he operated under the best intentions, but the survivors all discredit Kokichi's true intentions as a lie and give Kaito full credit
It's under Kokichi plan to be misunderstood like when he frame himself to be mastermind so it's all his intention in the first place and he succeds, but i can agree that the survivor done dirty to him well atleast 4 survivors know his true intention at the end.
Because who fuckin cares about him? After everything he's done, he deserved it.
I swear to GOD I HATE how at the end of case 5 the survivors all give credit to Kaito for the whole spectacle when Kokichi was the one who planned it all out and managed to actually mess with the mastermind. Kaito is a sweet and lovable character, but tbh, he ain't knowing sh*t.
I love Kokichi and feel so bad for him. He literally sacrificed his life to end the killing game only for everyone in the end to still dismiss him.
@@akamered4483exactly, I like Kaito but Kokichi carried
In the survivors' defense, Kokichi made himself to be untrustworthy and malicious on purpose, after everything he had said and done, its no wonder they would believe Kaito was the one who developed the whole scheme. I feel like because of this, Kokichi knew everyone would still see him as the monster he tricked them into believing he was.
It's sad and unfair yes, but it's an example of cause and effect.
Most people don't realize it that before his death, Kokichi already trusted someone and that someone is Kaito.
And shuichi, on his board, under his name it says trustworthy.
@@RinSenpaiisgay it was "Trustworthy?", Ouma is questioning whether he should trust Shuichi or not .
@@iamindespair5689 oh i didn't notice the question mark, sorry/
Kaito didnt trust him :(
@@hardcorefurinafan i know, nobody trusted him- :(
If you think about it, some ways Kokichi speaks imply that he may have been an orphan or not close at all to his family. That's just my personal observation. And another is that when Shuichi shows the idea that Kokichi is alone and he always will be, Kokichi brushes it off after not speaking for a moment almost seeming hurt, like he actually wants to have a good relationship with the others despite his trust issues.
Whoops adding on- Kokichi may also have an intention for lying. If you noticed, when Kokichi and Kito died in the 5th chapter, there was no grieving for Kokichi, only Kito. I keep feeling that it's like he was ready to sacrifice himself, as if he was trying to make himself so unlikeable that people wouldn't miss him if he died
stampy kit pregame
He was actually an orphan (ik I'm late lol)
@@stampykit3026 that's a pretty good theory
@@stampykit3026 I agree 100% with you
Couldn't it be said that Kokichi finally trusted someone? That person being Kaito. Kokichi trusted in Kaito and likewise, Kaito lied for Kokichi
This comment perfectly sums up the theme of chapter 5s case.
KenjuStorm indeed, Kaito also trusted kokichi
I think the reason why he told Kaito the truth is because of the elctro bomb
Oh my g O D
Ohwow..
There's also the fact that Kokichi seems to have some kind of complex about being boring/interesting such as his last words to Kaede were "at least you weren't boring" or his last words to Kaito "at least I wasn't boring right?" It shows through his childish mannerisms and his ultimate lab. Plus his entire organization is like a circus, an entertainment for himself and others. I'm not entirely sure what this means since we know nothing about his past but just wanted to point it out.
Allison If he was an orphan, that would probably be his only way of getting attention. Being both interesting and a troublemaker.
Chay Cortright True. If he is an orphan it would explain why he's very child-like which could make up for his lack of a real childhood. What confounds me is why the villain persona and fixation on lies part(which is basically his entire character lol)
Allison I have kind of a pet theory in that regard. I think he grew up, maybe in an orphanage, watching TV shows where the villain was always the one who is badass and in control. So it made an impact on him, and that's what he wanted to become. I think weeby kind of hit The nail on the head with the lying though.
Chay Cortright Oh yeah that makes sense! It reminds me of this character from One Punch Man who looked up to villains/monsters. Also it's been a while since I watched this so I kind of forgot parts of it. I think weeby said the constant lying was due to Kokichi's trust issues is that right? I feel like I'm missing something
Chay Cortright "If he was an orphan, that would probably be his only way of getting attention. Being both interesting and a troublemaker."
Basically Naruto when he was a child. He would play pranks on people to get attention and I'm pretty sure he wanted to become Hokage to be recognized and appreciated.
And now he’s going to be the president of Russia 😌
Milky Chu
Ikr, he even got an article. I love this fandom.
ultimate supreme leader of russia
When he’s elected I’m moving to Russia so Прощай
bold of you to assume I'm not already the president 😌
isn't he already the president of nazi Germany
I feel like insanely complicated characters (like Kokichi and Nagito) are such a double-edged sword in the Dangaronpa fandom. Some absolutely hate them, and some absolutely love them. I personally think that characters like these are really make these games so good and special. Danganronpa has some of the most unique and complicated characters I've ever seen. I really love how multi-layered your analysis videos are, and they really help people to understand these characters and their real motivations better. So thank you for making these, and I hope your future videos will be successful.
i'm late af but i'm a sucker for complex characters, and i mean real complex characters not just overall "cool" and DR really shown me 2 of the most complex characters i've ever seen.
Both got issues HAISHSIS I don’t think either of them are bad, I just think they went through really bad things in their life 😶
Yes,I really like how complicated the characters because truly none of them are completely good people and it negates our human need to see good and bad when really,nothing is as black and white as it may seem
I LOVE well-written complex characters. That's why Nagito and Kokichi are my absolute favourite characters ever. I love how they're not just black and white. They're not good guys, but they're not bad guys either. These two characters are ridiculously well-written, it seems like Spike Chunsoft have a specialty at writing complex antagonist characters
@@shuyotirah9132 I get that it's your opinion, but in mine I dont consider not being able to stand on your own and having to carry the antagonistic force of the story exactly well-written
Kokichi is so weird, cruel, yet adorable to me. He makes so many empty threats!
RPG luvr13 He's not really as cruel as people make him out to be as seen in the game.
MellowVGC Exactly!
I see him as a misunderstood bean
People just hate him because he got Gonta killed or he’s a liar.
And the sad thing is if hes actually hurt or sad nobody will believe him because he always says " its a lie!"
A 30 minuets analysis video on my good boy Kokichi?
HELL YEAH LET'S GOOOOOOO.
Haze The Meme I love him to he is the best I saw the video on my reminder tab and I stopped watching the video I was watching and taped on it then saw the video was 30mins and said yasssss!!!!!! *Tap* he is the best and Don't forget it
Your good boy kokichi is already good without this video but now hes.. EVEN MORE THEN ANYTHING.. Kekeke that was lie .-.
Its a lie
LEZZ GOOOOOOOOO
Haze The Meme
I have a crush on Oma :D
I just feel so much for these characters that are hiding behind a mask pretending to be happy. Kokichi is such a complex character at that too like ugh I need some canon redemption for him instead of that sudden death and forever seen as a shithole and hated. He’s so misunderstood and I have to give kudos to you for this kinda-unbiased analyzation of kokichi. I can agree with a lot of things you said in the vid.
Ko Ri and it makes it so much more tragic how he knew he’d forever be hated, and even had the chance to change that and cause the others to feel bad about how he was treated, and yet died like he did anyway and so painfully at that
Koki Maybe... the reason why he was so hated was because he manipulated a well liked and kind person (Gonta) into a murder that could EASILY be prevented by telling everyone (Miu) all for the sake of looking evil to the rest, jokes about it, and then punches a dying guy and laughs about it.
Dove
Sadly, I don't think telling everyone would have prevented a murder from happening in chapter 4; no one would have believed Kokichi (which I believe he was aware of), considering how much of a liar he was. :C
@@cleibarnhart well it's kinda his fault for going around antagonizing everyone and making them uncomfortable and making things difficult. You guys are sugarcoating a little
@@sytriy Yeah but they were all sceptical of going there and If Kokichi brung sufficient evidence to the table, he would have made them more hesitant to go. And even if that didn't work, which I swear it would, he could have just not gone and pulled his UwU disappear boy act
He was an amazing antagonist, and honestly an amazing character overall. this analysis just proves that. I dislike when people call him a “copy of nagito”, it just pisses me off.
Exactly, some people just can’t accept that kokichi is his own character and not some ripoff
@@quit1074 literally. in my opinion he’s better then nagito, antagonistic wise, but of course that’s just my personal opinion
I can see why they compare them, they are both troublemaker of their own game and both use their own method to end the killing game once and for all in the last trial of eac respective series, but man their personality and complexity its so different from each other there's no compare when it comes to that.
@h̳y̳u̳n̳j̳i̳n̳s̳i̳n̳d̳e̳x̳f̳i̳n̳g̳e̳r̳ヅ it's funny you say that, it mean you didn't properly read V3, he is way better in personality than Nagito who is full blown psychopath with no empathy and the only thing he care about is Hope like a maniac, he only looking his classmate by talent and after knowing Hajime has no talent he immediately talked shit about him as if he looking at a dirt.
Kokichi scheme actually for greater good, it actually hinted after Gonta execution that he feels grief for his dead and the end of the game he actually despise killing game and feel sorry for all participants killed, he actually one of the most selflest guy who sacrifice himself to expose mastermind in the end unlike Nagito who only fueled with "Hope" to the point he want to kill everyone just because Hajime and the others are remnant of despair.
@h̳y̳u̳n̳j̳i̳n̳s̳i̳n̳d̳e̳x̳f̳i̳n̳g̳e̳r̳ヅ all of those are all lies, him treating killing game as "games" or "enjoyments" is all lies, why do you think Kaito want to work with him? Because he knows what Kokichi think and he genuine feel bad, he must act like a dick so that mastermind didn't focus on him, he must become lunatic or else the mastermind will see through his plans, he tried to act as the very evil within the game so he can trap the mastermind into commiting foul withing it's own rule. He is not evil or jerk at all, he must act like evil or jerk for the sake of ending the killing game once and for all, during Kaito flashback at 5th killing game it explained that Kokichi never want to act as evil but he must so he can fool Monokuma to think that he work for him while in actuality he is not and trapped him with his own rule, it would work but Shuichi is insensitive and ruined the plan, although Kokichi already predict it anyway according to Kaito.
I suggest you replay 5th killing game and read Kokichi's dialogs throughtly you will notice that he never want to be big bad and rather force to do it
I think Kokichi is an antihero for this case.
He's a hero; he wanted to end the killings. The problem is he does it through rather morally ambiguous or straight-up immoral means. By definition, an antihero is a hero who lacks conventional character traits a hero has, and for me, Kokichi fits the description. He's the hero who didn't get much credit until posthumously.
He’s chaotic good
@@waldien5802 I kinda feel bad for the guy, really.
The killing game put so much mental stress in him that his worst was forced out. He was most likely simply a lying prankster - probably someone boring without a true "identity" to make him interesting (quote “At least I wasn’t boring, right?”) - outside of the killing game, but the emotional torture combined with his flaws of selfishness (debatable?) and distrust led to his breaking point. He wanted to end the games, and he deduced the possibility (and then existence) of an audience by seeing through the lies of the Flashback Lights, so he did it by doing the thing he does best: piss people off (the hypothetical audience and the masterminds of Team Danganronpa) and push them away from him. He stooped down to the level of Monokuma to beat him, through the same tactics of manipulation and deception and then, killing.
Imagine if he lived to Chapter 6. Imagine if he was there during the big reveal. He'd LOSE HIS SHIT TO THE POINT OF INSANITY. He'd be forced to reflect on his actions - the same actions that were as fictional as he really was, bound to a tight script made by Ultimate Real Fiction for entertainment. His fears of an audience would be realized, and in the end, even "Kokichi Ouma" was a lie after all.
Poor guy. His actions were insane and horrible, but I can't 100% just blame him. He should be in therapy, not in a fucking murder game.
He had good intentions, but was forced to show it through horrible means.
@@luminaria227 :((
That's exactly what I think. He's a hero, but not in the way you'd expect. He most likely had a rough life before the killing game, making him be who he is now in the killing game. It'd honestly be really physiologically stressing for anyone that doesn't know the truth of humanity to participate in something like a killing game. I kin both Kokichi and Shuichi, because I act like both of them, so I understand both of their actions. He can honestly be a really understandable character if you really look at his situation.
I think the antag trio in general were all anti heroes
"I will be starting Doki Doki soon"
Well. Shall we start digging the grave now, or...?
What?
Yes
Yes
Sure
Probably
I have to disagree about Kokichi not wanting any friends. I believe that he cared a lot about Gonta. Unlike him Gonta is very trusting and kind. The complete opposite of his facade. However this is most likely what he wants to be. I believe that his teasing to Gonta is his way of being jealous. However I believe that he cares a lot about Gonta. This is proven when he momentarily stops doing his villain persona when he says something roughly like, “you all probably think it should have been me huh. Everyone hates me. So the role of villain is perfect for me.” Another quote is when he says to Gonta, “ wait if he is gonna die then I want to too. I prepared for it, I-.” And “ Gonta! You can’t leave me too.” But then agian this is just my opinion.
I read off his page and it said he really did care a lot about Gonta. He didn’t want Gonta to be executed. After Gonta’s execution (I think), you know how he started acting all evil and twisted again? He felt a rush of anger and guilt in him that caused him to lose parts of his sanity, making him act like himself again. Because of that, he lied about fake crying or that he didn’t care about Gonta, when in reality, Kokichi actually cared so much about Gonta.
I honestly don’t know if it’s true, I just read it off of his page.
He might have cared but i dont think they could have been friends?
With oumas rational personality he has so little in common with someone like gonta that there is no way they would ever be able to have any kind of meaningful confersation or friendship
Gonta needs someone patient and willing to babysit him through everything
And person like ouma needs someone more on his level (also intelectual) a person that he can learn from and that can keep him entertained
(Sorry, i really understand why people like gonta but pairing him with ouma feels just kinda like a waste of oumas talents and all of the good traits)
and yet he got Gonta to commit murder
@@crinsombone5380 actually Kokichi had a good reason for doing that. Thanks to his Avatar settings he couldn't do anything to go against Miu, he could have not showed up to the meeting, but then Miu probably would've come up with another way to kill someone since she was desperate. He also couldn't tell the others because i really doubt they would believe him.
@@thatstheteasis5072 bunny luv Miu doesn't have too much common sense, so if he didn't get everyone to go into the virtual world she likely wouldn't be able to kill anyone. He could've also just shown her what was actually in the outside world. As for not telling the others, I always hear this as an excuse but people seem to forget that it's his word against Miu's. It's not like he's trying to tell everyone that Gonta wants to kill someone, this is Miu we're talking about. I would trust her more than him, but if you told me she wanted to kill Kokichi I would believe you right away. It was his fault that Miu and Gonta died. He got them in the virtual world, he kept the secret of the outside world from her, and he convinced Gonta to kill Miu. Even if I'm somehow wrong, just the fact that he didn't at least try shows what kind of person he is. Killing should be the absolute last resort
*"Cause' I'm A Liar..."*
Liar, and only that is true!
After all, fire, fire, is something I pursue
..Liar and only that is true! After all fire, fire, is something I pursue!
@@oriorchids Trust me, that’s a lie such a lie for a lie.
You see, I can’t pry my own dyed scheming eyes.
Marble Pie So please, forgive my, falsified, truth or lies!
This is the best thing
Having been abused myself as a kid and kicked a lying habit that was my security blanket I can agree with your analysis however I don't think kokichi was an orphan quite the opposite I think he knew his parents but wishes he didn't because they tormented him and he often had to lie to pretend he was ok he probably created Dice as an escape with his closest friends kinda of like one big childish game
At least that’s Tsumugis backstory for him anyway, or might be... Ahhh I really want to know Kokichi’s real past, like is DICE even real or was it all just a brainwashed backstory for him? All their memories we’ve come to know were made up... Or maybe only partly made up? Or maybe they were just exaggerated versions of the truth. Guess we’ll never know. And did Kokichi know? He was smart and I’m pretty sure at some point he realized the memories from the lights were fake, I wonder if he thought “guess everything I know about my past is a lie...”
@@koemi0199 This is just my headcanon but it's backed by some evidence so treat it as theory.
When Tsumugi reveal their true backstory before becoming fabricated character for killing game, their true personality before killing game is the opposite of what they are currently, Kaede was once has negative outlook on life and basically given up humanity but become complete opposite as Ultimate, the same applies with Kaido who basically want to become killing maniac who want to get the most kill counts but instead become the best bro who helps other survive as Ultimates. All of this is being told by Tsumugi herself and with that maybe you can imagine how he was before becoming Ultimates?
@@sigmaenjoyer7020 it's an interesting theory but I think it's false ,at least from ma point of view, simply put they where all so obsessed with danganronpa that they sounded like psychopaths in the pregame tap that TSUMUGI showed them (it could be another lie as far as we know) ,iiii honesty don't think they where opposite rather say "exaggerated " where they already had this personality but doubled to million ya got me m8?
@@koemi0199 hopefully we have a game or anime to clear stuff up
Like dr still has alotta lose ends that needs to be tied ,its has a huge fandom that is laterly growing by the second so I don't rlly get why would they not :v
@@Harukaluin19 nah, i could say the same to you,what if it's real? What if that interview is not a lie? Because we know Tsumugi doesn't lie about everything like for ex, about the killing game is fictional and all that.
Well there are no concrete answer since both of us could be wrong.
This detail may not be all that significant, but the thing that made me start to question whether or not Kokichi was truly evil was when he got Himiko to express her emotions. After the trial where Angie and Tenko died, he talked about how he hated liars and noted that Himiko was bottling up her emotions, which inevitably led to her breaking down and crying for the first time. While he did do it in a way that seemed mean-spirited, it would be hard to fathom why he would even go out of his way to get her to express herself and stop bottling up her emotions. It was my interpretation that this was his way of helping Himiko while also keeping up with his villain persona.
I’m so glad someone else had the same idea! I totally agree! I think he noticed Himiko begin to get too close to the point-of-no-return, and so he made her let it all out. I think he was able to notice this and wanted to do something about it because he knew the feeling all too well. Poor guy. 😔
I wanna see the analysis of Ouma's relationships!
Ok, I know Kokichi has a lot of fans, I also like him, but there are other characters that deserve an analysis video as well. So not now.
Hak & Yona lol I agree
_saihara-chan_
KIWIMAN47 I can imagine his relationship can be summarized as follow:
-Kaede: Not boring but not too exciting either.
-Shuichi: could be or couldn’t be gay for him.
-Nah, totally gay for him-
-Kiibo: Robot can’t have relationship with human silly.
-Miu: Cum dumpster pig.
Hak & Yona I want an analysis on Tsumugi. I just find her representing the fans of the series to be really clever.
i am VERY biased as he’s one of my favorite characters but here goes.
1. ouma is very untrusting, so he uses lies to keep others at bay. the reason he’s so interested in saihara is because he’s the only person who’s gotten close to figuring him out. i mean, he busted his head open and passed it off as a joke to hide his vulnerability
2. he may have enjoyed the trials, but he despised the killing game. he pushed everyone away to make it easier to end it, willing to let his own life end. unlike kaede, who was willing to end someone ELSE’s life outright (as he had gonta kill iruma because he thought he didn’t have another choice)
3. he’s smart: really smart. he figured things out no one else could or figured them out sooner, but didn’t use this against the other super high school levels
4. all in all, he’s just a vulnerable kid with severe trust issues. he’s selfish and doesn’t always go about things the right way but he’s not a bad person in the end. not really the same but you can compare him to gundham: they both had villain personas despite their true natures. these kids have all been through a lot. he’s an incredible character and i love him a lot for it. (:
great video weeby! you’ve already done videos on most of my favorite characters (kirigiri, asahina, sonia, hinata, kazuichi, kuzuryuu, komaeda, saihara, ouma, tenko, and kiibo) but any of those you haven’t i’m down for lol
Wow, thanks. I know I am.
Its sad to see people despising Kokicki when he tried to end the killing game before even Kibo did something. They see Kokicki as a manipulative liar when hes so much more then that. They really need their facts checked >:/. Kokicki is one of my favorite characters, and will forever will be. ❤
I stan this coment entirely🛐
@@misaki8922 if anyone needs their facts checked its *you*, I don't hate kokichi and I kinda like him but quit trying to excuse his actions. Just accept them and move on
1. I think the reason he's so interested in Shuichi was because he was strong enough to push his emotions aside to find the truth, which is something he goes on about constantly
2. Kaede was actually willing to kill the mastermind and once she realized it was Rantarou she *KILLED* she decided to participate in the class trial, both to give everyone the courage to move on and reveal the mastermind. Pretty selfless if you ask me
3. I think you've got him confused with Nagito. Yes hes smart, but not someone so intelligent it's like he has actual clairvoyance, like Nagito
4. I feel like you're sugarcoating a little, he is by no means some innocent little kid
I did like Kokichi a whole lot more than Nagito. Especially when Gonta was about to die and he volunteered to be executed as well to make Gonta feel better. Nagito was out right cruel to the person that he incited to murder. When Teruteru was about to die, he was like “Oh you will be a perfect sacrifice to bring salvation and glory to all of us who will get to live and grow old and do all of the things that you will never be able to do.” So I like how Kokichi at least hid his malicious side from Gonta before he died as way of apologizing of sorts (maybe).
GenericCZcamsComment Channel personally, I think he's more similar to Fuyuhiko than Nagito
+Mujtaba Walji Interesting. Do you think you can say why that is. I never thought of Kokichi being like Fuyuhiko before. (Other than the criminal leader idea.)
GenericCZcamsComment Channel he started off antagonising the group. Both hid their emotions from the rest of the group, pretending they hated the others when they didn't really. They also had their "villain personas"
+Mujtaba Walji I see. I guess that works. I see him as Nagito’s parallel because he and Nagito act all happy and friendly to the group when their actions are crazy. They also both pushed someone else to murder (Nagito=Teruteru and Kokichi=Gonta). Both of them also used someone else to kill themself and tried to turn it into an unsolvable murder in the fifth trial. Both of them have implied romantic feelings for the main character too. I do understand why you feel he resembles Fuyuhiko though. It was an interesting insight.
well i think ouma really did wanted to get executed but for komaeda: he is very self sentered when it comes to hope he believes in sacrifises and doesnt really have someone special to him thats why he cant empathise with others (+ bc of his illness) while kokichi did have special ppl to him
"Before I do anything, I ask myself- 'would Kokichi do that?' and if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Rantaro Amami, 2017.
a good Quote
is it canon?
@@soruisaaretitan No, it’s from a chat text thing. But it’s still really funny
@@EchoStarcastI thought it was a quote from a show or something
@@GippyHappy It may be. But in this context it’s from a text to speech chat video using Rantaro’s voice.
I feel like Kokichi is the most complex but most humane person in the game. Kokichi wasn’t a goody two shoes but he wasn’t a complete villain. He had his reasons and honestly , that’s why he’s my favorite character.
He wasn't a complete villian? ....h o w?
@@nuttynutsnutstache because he had good intentions in the end, sure the way he got there was quite inhumane but the end result was something a hero would do
@@Teakettlez
A hero would do? Yeah, but you're forgetting something.. the way he got there.. was only in chapter 5. Everything before was completely unjustified. He has no redemption, also, he failed. Unlike another antagonist that sacrificed themselves in the fifth chapter..
@@nuttynutsnutstache still he’s not a complete villain cause he wanted to end the game, a villain would not want that. Sure he failed ig and sure how he acted and what he did was terrible he’s not a full on villain idk i would classify him as an anti hero
@@Teakettlez
He's literally the antagonist throughout the whole game. Pretty sure thats a villian. Also, EVERY single character that's not the mastermind wanted the game to end. Smh.
I had a love, hate relationship with kokichi but in the end, I knew deep down he had good intention, he just had a weird way of showing it. I still miss him like crazy. ;(
Kokichi is the embodiment of what Danganronpa has quietly considered its greatest sin since the beginning: accepting a comforting lie over a painful truth. He runs from truths he doesn't like and fell into the trap of comforting himself with the criminal mastermind persona, and in the process fully became the monster who kills and makes everyone around him suffer. He wanted to end the killing game at all costs, but didn't trust anybody else to willingly help and wasn't too concerned with who got sacrificed in his attempt. In short, he's a much more obnoxious Celeste.
dang DR really does have some real complex characters....
Kokichi is still best boi tho
@@whatthefoxsays-here yup😌
Ohhhhhh my godddddd this is exactly what I wanted to see.
Likeable or not, I think Kokichi is one of the best written characters in Danganronpa and honestly this pretty much shows why all of my interest towards him feels right. I loved how you compared and contrasted Kokichi and Kaito and their views of one another as well, their directly contrasting personalities is what really made both the fourth trial and their dynamic as enemies so entertaining to watch, both for giggles and for how far they're willing to go to prove each other wrong.
Beautiful stuff here. If I had to suggest another character for analysis, Rantaro and Tsumugi are immediately the ones that come to mind for obvious reasons. But, if I were to recommend something simply based on how much I like them a Miu or Keebo analysis would be amazing.
Honestly I see people say he's a bad written character just because they don't like him but, there's so much depth and complexity in his character that I can't help but wonder how they came into the conclusion
@@ninmeu3830 bad written?! him!?!
When he said his dying words he cried and the other characters didnt care. That scene really breaks my heart.
Mainly because he's an asshole!
Same:( they all just thought he was lying
@@Teakettlez because he always seems liked he lied through and out in the hole game-
@@toastpencils1480 yeah I guess they are justified for thinking that but still it’s kinda sad:
Keebo believed him
Little bit of added Kokichi stuff, I just replayed the first chapter, and Kokichi is actually surprisingly helpful. Like, when he helps with Kaede's pep talks a few times, and he's like the most excited when they think Monokuma is dead.
The more information i know about Kokichi's lying behavior the more i feel sympathy and sad for him, he used his mountain of lies to cover up his insecurity, severe trust issues and motives. I'll like to acknowledge Kokichi as a vulnerable and emotional person. I genuinely think the few times he look sad or troubled after someone got executed or murdered , may actually be the real feelings his been hiding from the others. I noticed everytime he starts showing sympathy or any other emotions, his just started smiling or laughing out loud ,to the others Kokichi will seem like a total jerk who have no morals but in reality his suffering.
*My baby Kokichi is suffering!!* 😭😭
Spoilers
Kokichi: *sacrifices himself to end the killing game*
Everyone: thanks kaito for ending the killing game
Also kokichi: *am i a joke to you?*
Note:i *didn't* make this comment to hate on kaito so please don't hate on him :)
Rip kokichi you will be missed.But not as a bad guy TvT
Literally
I mean, the plan was executed by both of them, and with Kokichi being dead, I imagine them thanking Kaito. Also, the fact that Kokichi pushed away everyone since the beginning of the game didn’t help the others remembering him as an amazing person, I get your point, just trying to understand Shuichi’s and the others view
Popes XD gotta get into Kokichis backstory (aka the reason why he’s pushing them away etc) it’s actually quite sad
Haechans Sunflower I thought there war almost no info about his past
On the topic of the 人にやらされるゲーム line, the sentence is frustratingly vague in Japanese BECAUSE it can be taken both ways without a kanji there to help clarify the verb, which I think was the point in the Japanese script :
1)人に やらされる [people are made to do] + ゲーム[game] = a game people are forced into (assuming this is the standard する version of やる)
OR
2) 人に殺らされる [people are made to kill] + ゲーム [game] = a game where people are made to kill (assuming it's 殺る)
But regardless, this one moment wouldn't have really been an issue on its own. Translation and localization is VERY difficult, and I am the first person to come to the defense of translators who try to localize text to better help Western audiences understand the story, even if it means adopting tones and taking liberties with how lines are translated. However, the point of localization is to translate the IDEA, and in this case I think NISA's translators could have done a bit better at times.
In my opinion (as someone who played it in early 2017 in Japanese and was rooting for NISA's translation) the English translation didn't seem to have a clear idea in how they wanted to characterize Ouma, or how they wanted other characters to react to him. The fact that fans have such polarized opinions of him only speaks to that idea more. There were multiple instances in the English script that overemphasized the villainous/childish side of Ouma to the detriment of the more ambiguous aspects of his character. To go back to the chapter 5 flashback scenes, the thing that bothered me wasn't the lack of a strict adherence to direct translation, but the TONE that the dialogue took at times. In the Japanese version, when Momota is recounting what happened, he shows far more conviction in trusting Ouma. In the English version, he comes off as more flippant, rude, and unsure about their partnership. The English script has Momota insult Ouma on several occasions that have no basis in the original script (ie. あいつはそんな生易しいヤツじゃねーよ/"He's not the kinda guy to let me off so easily" vs "It was kind of hard to ignore such an annoying guy" OR あいつは筋金入りの嘘つきだったぜ/"He was a staunch liar" vs "He was a lying sack of shit" LIKE?? WHAT???) When characters take such drastic tones, it will no doubt color the players' views as well. A good story does this purposefully, and it was absolutely the original script's intention to fake the player out about Ouma's true intentions. I just wish the English translation hadn't taken such harsh translation liberties that might have lead players too far away from those intentions.
Ouma's not a purely good or evil character, and his gray morality is a strength to his character and to the story as a whole. His role as the sort of "background deuteragonist" could have been better supported in NISA's translation, so while I don't HATE it, I am disappointed by several of the choices they took. However, I still fully appreciate NISA's commitment to bringing the game overseas, since I think it's the strongest one in the series and I would have been devastated if non-Japanese speakers hadn't been able to play it as well!
Wow, the English translation took a much harsher approach, I wonder why. They could’ve taken the ambiguous approach that it was originally but it didn’t, which makes me mad. Personally, when characters are more ambiguous, they’re more open-ended and mysterious, which makes the character more fun since you can take creative liberties and form theories of your own on how they really are on the inside. Hhh I really want to learn japanese now tbh so I can understand all the dialogue and all the ambiguous parts of his personality
He made the game so interesting and funny
@@kaiishishou 😰😰😰
He was definitely not a boring person.
@@lydoofusbinderp9853 Yea he made it fun to me-
@@lydoofusbinderp9853
^
He brought nothing new
Also, building off onto the idea on Maki, I also think why Ouma might of isolated her so much was because he was trying to protect the others as well. Who would be the most likely blackened of a game where you're suppose to kill each other than the Ultimate Assassin herself? By isolating her so much, the other wouldn't be able to lower their ground down around her, making her job even harder to do. That's my opinion anymore :/
>Who would be the most likely blackened of a game where you're suppose to kill each other than the Ultimate Assassin herself?
Ironically, that probably wouldn't happened. It's like with Genocide Jack - she would be an obvious suspect. And even she'd still managed to hide her talent, she is still cold and asocial girl, doesn't strike as very trustworthy.
He just screwed himself, because the only person Maki tried to kill ended up being him.
@@JoaoPedro-eq3hj who knows...
I agree with almost absolutely everything you said.
Except for the one word you used to describe Ouma a few times.
*Selfish*.
Now, I understand why you might have believed this. After all, many of his plan and goals looped back to one thing- himself.
But I feel like in some places, instead of saying “selfish”, the more accurate description would be “vain.”
Ouma wasn’t selfish, to me. He did what he did because he was opposed to murder, which implies he either believes human life to be precious, or something like that. If he was selfish, he would have tried to end the killing game purely for his own safety.
But vanity, a faith so strong in one’s own skills and talent, explains perfectly why Ouma did everything by himself, along with his trust issues. He might have learnt to trust someone, anyone, but his firm belief that only *he* had the ability to end the killing game cemented his lonely yet efficient plan. This also explains how someone so untrusting could think of Saihara as maybe a trustworthy person. He noticed Saihara was able to do the same thing as him without lying, and figured he might be smart enough to trust.
But Ouma believed Saihara couldn’t help with the plan, on the sole basis that he could accomplish the plan better himself.
I’m tired, so my logic isn’t very good, but long story short,,,,,, he isn’t selfish, he’s more vain imo. Idk just a thought-
true.
Kokichi's ultimate plan was to make everyone in this 'incompetent' group to depend on Shuichi. Once he confirmed it in ch4, he would kidnap Shuichi's best friend Kaito to lure him into a situation where he is forced to assist Kokichi. Shuichi would kill Kokichi and have Kaito spout his 'Power of Trust and Friendship' bullshit to have himself be voted instead of Shuichi "who is obviously not capable of murder".
Who could have imagined that Maki would come first and shoot him with a poisoned bolt...
@@LocherYTOh true! Though.. at that point, Shuichi had pretty much lost the will to live. He would've killed himself if Maki hadn't shown up at his door.
If Kokichi were planning to lure Saihara into helping him (and he definitely was based on his dialogue in chapter 4), then that was likely a backup plan if his initial mastermind speech didn't get to go through perfectly.
I think you're right about Kokichi's fear of Kaito's influence. Shuichi had planned to stop the killing game in chapter 1 and in chapter 6. Both times either he wasn't friends with Kaito or Kaito was dead while in between the two chapters he got comfortable and not as "agressive" or as hard worker.
It is also interesting that the only ones who actually had plans to stop the killing game were Kokichi, Kaede, Shuichi (chapter 1 and 6), and Angie. Kaito didn't actually had a plan except to fight them.
Angie was also interesting since if she had her way, the mastermind would of actually had to get involved. She already had a influence. Which is why my theory of one of the reasons Tsumugi became part of Angie's gang was to watch over her just in case.
Another character that also had plans to end the killing game was Rantaro. Kaito and Gonta(when he suggested himself fighting the exisals) and even Kiibo(when he tried to blow up the school) did want to try to stop the game as well, they're just not the biggest brainiacs out there so they wanted to go about it their own way (physical fighting). I think it's actually pretty cool how many characters there are in this particular game who had their own ways to try to break the killing game compared to the previous games. Even Monodam rebels and takes control of the game for a while.
...Another interesting thing about all these characters is that they all died within the same chapter they started rebelling or put their plans into action, the only exception being Shuichi...
SebisTheCat Kaito doesn't count. His plan was just brute force. Gonta also doesn't count cause Kokichi was the one who planned it. Keeboy also doesn't count since it was in the heat of the moment.
Yeah, they didn't have amazing well-thought-out strategic plans on how to stop the game, but they still wanted to attempt it anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Physical strength and brute force IS one way to do it, even if it's not always the most effective one (Kiibo might have succeeded if he kept going, even if it meant sacrificing the others as well) not arguing with you or anything though, i've just liked to think about how many different characters have tried to put a stop to the game or tried to take control over it in this one. Oh and with Gonta I meant when he was suggesting using himself as meat-shield and fighting the exisals at the start of the fourth chapter.
SebisTheCat But I did not said characters who wanted to stop the killing game. I said characters who planned to stop the killing game. There is a difference. Kaito, Gonta, and Keeboy didn't planned. The three of them were sorely influence by emotions and nothing more. It was really disappointing that Shuichi didn't planned anything in chapter 5 and just followed Kaito. In the first game, only Kirigiri had any plans. In the second game, nobody had anything unless if count Nagito in chapter 5. So it's interesting that in this game there were more players and less characters who are just there or only there to kill or be killed.
yeah, I totally agree it's pretty interesting that we had more characters this time around who really tried their best to beat the game instead of the other characters. Though... I do still think you shouldn't dismiss the characters who didn't have any long-term plans as just other characters to kill or be killed (though some of them were). After all this game isn't exactly chess or anything (they're not in a virtual reality world like last time so strategy isn't the only option anymore) so there is definitely room for more spontaneous/opportunistic players who instead of crafting well-though out plans thorough the game would rather jump at chances to do it in a way that they excel at. I don't think their plans were necessarily emotion-driven either since they seemed to have pretty clear goals and/or motives in mind when they attempted it (or wanted to attempt it)...but yeah.
honestly i didn’t like kokichi that much at first but then after his last words, i believed him and felt like crying. ( usually, i never feel that sad about a character’s death except for maybe kaede’s. )
thank you for this video! it’s good as always
same
at first I wasn't too confertable with him, but I kinda got used to his trolling and he made the trails more enjoyble, and those last moments hits hard
At chapter 2 (i think?)
Kokichi : No one would care about me if i die anyway
Shuichi : No! of course we would care!
Yeah they really did.
You sure? They didn't really care that much when he actually died
@@667nine sarcasm...
@@mihu9289 gomen
omigosh ikr!! they all were SOOO sad
*Kokichi dies*
Everyone: "lol anyway"
A great analysis! Though I think him claiming his lies are told half out of kindness and his skill being "Kind Lie" would've been noteworthy, as well as more about his childish prankster side and his hatred of boredom he constantly brings up.
Kodaka has also explained some things about him, like his character having a major focus on duality and that Kodaka apparently put more thought into Kokichi than any other character (because of the liar theme). He also explained that his first name "small luck" is meant to sound very humble and small, while his surname "king horse" is all grand and pompous. Kokichi's Japanese voice actor believes that Kokichi is actually really meek if you take away his strong wish to outwit everyone.
While it's really not that noteworthy, I personally find his horse theme a pretty fun little trait, and some people don't seem to know it's a thing and don't understand the crowned horse mask in his room nor what his laugh refers to.
that's Kokichi...
I just realized something. Kokichi wrote his message “This World Is Mine, Kokichi Oma” on the “Horse A” location. Judging by how he also knew where the “Twins B” message was (proven by his will to the other remaining students), he could’ve easily used that instead for his message. But he chose “Horse A” instead. And his last name has the word horse. Therefore, Kokichi has two horse themed things that he has/does. 😂
Kokichi is such an amazing character. He's so unique and amazing. There's no information on his past, nobody knows why he is a liar, nobody can tell if what he's doing or showing what hes feeling is true. And the fact he's both a pathological and compulsive liar, he is such a compulsive liar he puts his life on the line as well as others. Like when *spoilers* he said he killed Angie when in fact he didn't. He kept up the act saying he killed Angie til there was solid proof he didn't.
Yeah I don't think the fact that he has no backstory isn't a good thing. Nagito felt natural as a villain and didn't feel that forced for some reason
Yet kokichi just feels forced, like rip-offs of Nagito and Celestia combined, and always carrying the antagonistic force of the story and unlike kaito or kaede, the theme he embodies just doesn't feel natural because there isn't even a vague explanation of his actions
@@bombaymessyasf you can guess kokichi's backstory actually. His behavior thoughtout the game can explain his backstory.
@@bombaymessyasf and the creators wanted to make him ambigious. What did you expect? And he is not a rip-off. He is nothing like Nagito or Celeste. Naybe Celeste because he lies but not Nagito
@@bombaymessyasf Kokichi isn't an antagonist. When you view him in the lens of a anti-hero, he is a far better part of the story that way. Chapter
@@YightLagami He's the only good part of the story. Despite being having a similar role to nagito he's the only source of entertainment and conflict
We almost didn't have a choice but to pay attention to him
Ouma is such a good character, and it's so impressive to see a 'love to hate' character who's still (arguably) a good person deep down. I wound up being really attached to him by the end of the game, partly because of how his character was presented, but also because he's made me start to work through my own deep seated trust issues and compulsive lying. This video was seriously phenomenal, thank you so much for all the effort you put into your analysis videos; it really shows, especially here.
Also, if you're taking suggestions for the next analysis, a video on Rantaro would be awesome! He doesn't get anywhere near enough love from the game, but with the small amount of screen time he gets in the main story, as well as the scenes from Salmon Team and the love hotel, I ended up really loving his character. Plus he's really pretty, so that helps. Oh, and a Himiko video would be a lot of fun too. Now that I think about it, you really can't go wrong with V3's cast, can you? lol
Also also, are you at all familiar with the plot of DDLC? I feel like it'd be kinda impossible not to be spoiled on it by now, and I think a series where somebody already knows what's going on could be really fun. Can't wait for the series ^.^
Gonta: *sniffle* "Gonta... don't know..."
Kokichi: *thinking to himself* "holy shit... I really am a horrible person"
True
what makes you think like that?
(just askin dont get me wrong)
@@soruisaaretitan i think it is because kokichi lies about his feelings to others (his relationship with gonta us stated in the vid)
@@chyuuix yeah but i dont think he regretted
hes really an idealist thats why i dont think hell feel regret
"i wasnt boring, right?" maybe he feel sad for gonta but he probably thought "ok i must focus my job(stop killing game)" time to act
I waaasnnntt eveeen saadd
Kokichi really didnt expect Gonta to lose his memory. Kokichi tried his damn hardest to make sure he found the Flashback Light first and have Gonta make the decision for himself. But because Gonta forgot, it's like he is sentenced to death because his parallel universe version of himself randomly decided to kill someone in cold blood.
Ouma's very complicated. He's neither a purely good person nor a purely evil person. Like a lot of characters in DR, honestly, but people apparently can't handle morally grey characters.
Wow wow wow you can really tell the amount of time, effort and research was put into this video! Personally, I think a sequel in the future would be awesome but maybe wait a bit since you already spent so much time on this bad boy. Ha I'm sure you're absolutely sick to death of Kokichi after this
He is a memeboy like Nagito
how much effort went into...talking about a character..?
Vienna Savage The effort that went into the editing, the research, the script and the well formulated arguments. It's not easy to make a well produced 30min video by yourself.
...... XD i see.
you're just trying to get on her good side
good on ye m8
Why would I want to be on her good side? I comment on most of the videos I watch because I like to let creators know that their videos are good. Why do you have to be such a dick about it?
I think Kokichi's actions was affected because of the motives. He became even more insane because he has seen his D.I.C.E friends get thrown in prison and seeing the outside world in shambles (making him believe that his friends in DICE already dead).
I think at some point of checking the academy, he came across the secret tunnel leading to his Ultimate Lab with the complete history book. He would have immediately realized all Flashback Lights were fake. If i had to guess, it was even before ch4, because at that point he tried not to look at any Flashback Lights and deemed them dangerous.
Weeny this is something I'm not too sure about but I think you should know;
In the talent development mode is that if your kokichi, and there is an friendship square is that ouma and kaito are talking then kaito would say "don't you have a family to spend New Years with" ouma would reply with " you shouldn't ask a supreme leader such persona questions"
This is taken from the wikia page.. Just wanting you to know I think this is pretty big.
cavell kat y eah I was thinking about that too, more evidence she could’ve used for his past having not been a very good one
cavell kat That doesn’t mean anything though. It could be interpreted as Ouma having literally no family/Ouma having a bad relationship with his family/he doesn’t like talking about his family/he doesn’t like talking personal things to Kaito specifically/he’s just being a butt head and messing with kaito/ or he’s keeping up his “supreme leader” persona. It’s too vague
dove see it still bring up a point of interest for ouma and his family, and like you said meaning he has none or has bad relationships with his family
let me put it like this:
Celestia Ludenberg: Pathological Liar
Kokichi O(u)ma: Compulsive Liar
I spell it ouma but oma is more popular
@@carabrooks8440 isn’t ouma Japanese canon spelling and oma in the english version?
Seriously tho which way am I supposed to spell it
I don't think kokichi is a complusive liar, tbh that part seems to get misunderstood
@@Fionacle the one you prefer tbh
Hi a Japanese kokichi fan girl here!
In japan the orphan idea is really popular actually!
But my image of the people actually thinking is true are other fan girls and boys who want to imagine his past and not much people have exact evidence so it was cool to listen about it(:
Good job with the video I loved it !!
yurie ichiki I can relate on the fangirl part-
:D
Why would Kokichi's motive video remind him that he has a no killing policy when the motive video was supposed to convince him to kill?
logic seeker top ten questions science still can’t answer
logic seeker it simply said that when explaining what his organization was like, and would still possibly cause him to want to kill more because it’d make him miss his organization and worry about what happened to them
Not all motive videos were produced equally. If there can be a video that says that Ryoma has no one who loves him outside of the killing game, then I don’t believe that every video will motivate killing.
Please also remember that the videos for the most part were sent to other people.
I always thought it was more a way to humiliate him. Like he builds himself up to everyone else to be the Ultimate Supreme Leader who has control of an organization that controls the entire world, but in "reality" he's just... what? A pathetic prankster who's pretending to be more than he ever could, and if it ever got out no one would ever take him seriously, because the thing about his lie about DICE is that it works because you're unsure if it's true. Like you know he has to be lying... but is he? If that motive video got out, he'd be humiliated. He didn't know this at the start and probably only remembered DICE's true nature after he watched the video, so he was basically cut down to size quite badly.
However, I do think it's interesting that he leaves it lying out in the open for someone to find after his death.
*watching another video and notification pops up*
Oh hey whats this
*kokichi ouma analysis video*
I NEEEEEEEED THIIIS
Peeko Dan yes mah friend yes
Peeko Dan same with me!
I don't need it... I don't need it... I NEEEEEEEEDDDDD IIIIIITTTTT!!!!÷
BELIEVE IN THE PEEKO
May we have a moment of silence of Kokichi death and for ending the killing game.
the fact that kokichi plays/creates an "evil" character for himself kinda reminds me of gundham and how he also does that. i think the main difference tho is that gundham doesnt actually do anything really sinister (like manipulation) like kokichi.
every time i see him i just hear *“it’s a lie!”*
I mostly do agree with this, but I may differ a little on how I interpret his selfishness. I do think he is selfish in some ways, such as justifying his ill actions or sacrificing other lives over his, but I believe the latter is only really because of their situation. I think he values his life far above most of the other student's because, like you said, he thinks that he has the best chance of stopping the killing game. Outside of these conditions, I think he'd be more concerned with other people's lives than he lets on. However, I am a little biased so who knows, heh. Aside from my terrible arguments, great analysis! I just want to give my misunderstood and needs-another-chance-or-a-few child a big hug because he's a little shit and I love him 😅
agreed!
Claire Bennett agreed. He acts similar during TDP, but that doesn't mean he is the same.
I remember how in disbelief he was that Gonta would call him a friend
I believe Kokichi felt ashamed of setting Miu and Gonta up to die. But I imagine this was his reasoning: If the killing games did end because the audience feels a despair of having their favorite show get ruined, then no more young adults/teens would be victims of the sadism the games put them through, because Monokuma wouldn't take any potential survivors, which would be hiding in undiscovered shelters (underground, in space stations, on moon, etc.), as coerced participants. If, for example, people die meaningless/boring deaths (i.e.: if Maki followed through with her word to make Himiko die painlessly, and did it in front of the others) the class trials could be short and boring because the players know from the start who the blackened is, so little to no verbal conflict will occur for the sadists to watch. Kokichi may value his life above other lives, but I wanna believe that he does show concern for their lives in a unusual (and probably twisted) way, like... if he thinks that it's better for people to die meaningless deaths (literally speaking, it could mean "meaningless to sadists because of how boring they are") than for them to be continuously taken from hidden shelters and being subjected to sadists. And in case you're wondering about the "continuously" part, I believe that if Kokichi believes death games are what people like, and if there are more survivors than what the flashback lights let on, this death game won't be the last if it doesn't end here, as far as he's concerned.
Hi Mom
As much as I like Kokichi we have to understand he is selfish
I need a sequel, this was a very well done vid and i'd love to hear more :3
I love that you pointed out the subtle differences in his villain act and his mindset throughout the game because it's hard to catch all of that while you're playing.
It's nice to hear someone talking about Ouma and doesn't demonize him. (Or adore him no matter what) Since, i've seen this clouding other people's perception of him. People often use the 4th trial to dismiss any good will he might have had for the group. Or use the fifth trial to say he did nothing wrong.
I felt the same way about the 4th trial, when he started yelling at Gonta, i think he was actually frustrated with the situation he had created because it felt so out of character for him to be causing this much distress to people. Since he only does pranks, not actual harm that would crush someone's life like in the 4th trial.
About the motive videos. I kind of agree but i think Ouma wanted them to see the motives to perhaps ease the tension in the group as well. Because when there are secrets, people are on edge the whole time and that could cause a murder out of fear of their motive being found out (like in the first game) so it would be easier to just show everyone the motives so there's no fear. That's just my guess 😅
Another thing, i think the third trial was pretty telling too. He seemed concerned about Himiko holding back her emotions so he called her out on it. But of course he did it in a way that made him look really inconsiderate. My guess is that he really didn't want to show any kind of genuine vulnerability but still wanted to make his worries heard.
Hope this isn't too long, it's always 4am here for the uploads so i might sound confusing xD
(WARNING: IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE ENDING OF THE GAME, THIS WILL SHOW SOME SPOILERS)
| Sorry for bad spelling | P.S: This comment is long, it might take you a minute or more to complete reading it. :)
Kokchi does have a bad personality, but. In Weeby Newz pinned comment, where it states: "although I don’t think Ouma thought of the others as his close friends, that doesn’t mean I think he didn’t care about them at all. I think he cared about the others on a human level as in he hated seeing them suffer alongside him. But he didn’t want to get too attached since he’s very untrusting along with the other things" I HIGHLY agree, because he does not want to be too attached with them, also. If you saw his motive video, it states he had 10 loyal people working for him, and how he saw them as a family to him, (or very close friends), but then, something bad happened to them. This must of made Kokichi heartbroken, you probably would if someone you were very close to died, or got kidnapped, or other bad stuff, you would be heartbroken like Kokichi. As you can see, (or read since you're reading this comment), Kokichi has a script where he has a sad past. Kokichi did suffer along with other people that he called "friends", Kokichi has been suffering too, and since he's a liar, he would probably lie about the "more you suffer, the more I enjoy it" part. Kokichi could be one of those people, he is very "kind", likes to play "games", "jokes" around with others, but his other side is pure evil, like he's a very insane person. I noticed that NO ONE made comments about his motive video that shows he had very close friends and something very bad happened to him. I felt like when Maki and Shuichi saw his motive video, they did NOT care about his dark past that was scripted for his character, even when Kokichi dies, they still didn't seem like they cared at all, and they still thought he was a liar when he said his dying words, and how he "tricked" Kaito into doing his plan to end the killing game. Also, I believe Kokichi DOES care about the others, but does not tend to show it, what I mean is (this is a theory)…: Kokichi did not want the other people to die like his very close friends (if his close friends died), he didn't like seeing them suffer, so it was probably a lie when he said "The more you suffer, the more I enjoy it", because he wanted to END the killing game because he could not stand the fact that he would see people be killed, and then another person get killed at the class trials. So, it would be 2 people he would watch get taken every time. So, Kokichi wanted to stop it so the remaining people could survive and continue their lives. He is actually willing to do it, even if it meant killing himself and not surviving with the others. My theory might prove he cares about the others. You do not have to agree with me, but this shows that Kokichi is not that evil even though it seems like it. | P.S: Thank you for reading all this.
i pressed read more ad the first thing i said was (spoilers)
"ho" from korekiyos execution
Yes
I started crying of how he had to bear it until the end. It's so painful to see him in so much pain losing someone very precious and the others didn't even bother about how his life was meant to be if he wanted to live or dying. Reading this whole paragraphs just made me feel like more depressed than Ash's death....
Also this ash name is from Banana Fish. I couldn't stop mourning over his death in manga. It was utterly unforgettable
One thing I’d like to note that there could be a chance that he didn’t care about his motive video since it’s likely he knew what was going on and he kept foreshadowing the reveal and stuff so he could’ve just known it was another lie
Some people have said he asked to be punished with Gonta cuz he meant it. Honestly, I think he knew Monokuma wouldn't allow someone who isn't "blackened" to be punished as Monokuma said "only the one who commits murder is blackened." He might've cared though. I mean his fake crying looked childish and all "WAHHH!: and dramatic. But during Gonta and his last words, his crying expression changed to something that looked a lot more serious and genuine. (can't confirm for real/only speculation.)
Same with his last words
Personally though? I do think he did care for Gonta to some extent though and felt bad about using him. The point of Kokichi was that we never understood him or his true intentions in the end. I believe there is no proper answer but rather an open analysis. There has been some debate as to whether what he did was justified or not(personnally...no), whether he was really evil or not, or whether he really cared or not. I personally think that it's up to the player/audience. The themes of DR3 have been focused on belief, and truth vs lies. Rather than hope and despair. That's why I found Kokichi and Kaito one of the most important characters. They both had different ideals. "Don't trust everyone, they will betray you in the end." and "Believe in them, it's your own choice and fault for believing in them if they end up betraying you." Kokichi was cautious of Monokuma and SEEMED to be keeping up an act, but also told many lies (maybe because he couldn't trust others himself) While Kaito was pretty naive (though it worked out pretty well) and wanted to believe in his friends.
When Shuichi says "You'll always be alone/Kaito has us" it honestly hurt me. I think the writers only made him say that to imply that Kokichi might've genuinely cared.(I mean it's not something Shuichi would normally say, nor does it fit how he would've responded to Kokichi." Honestly? If he wanted to win the game truly? I don't think he would've killed himself. (again this is only speculation) And keep in mind that he probably planned ahead(though they say he thought of it on the spot) Like, I mean honestly he was dying from the poison!! He wouldn't have enough time to write a whole damn script for Kaito. And why would he have a camera? (maybe he was planning on asking someone else, or doing it himself) I think that the game (in a way) is testing our ideals. He truly did seem to be 5 steps ahead, but at the same time Monokuma in every game has always been 10 steps ahead. Are we gonna have Kaito's ideals and choose to believe Kokichi's last words? (Though Kaito contradicts himself as he doesn't believe Kokichi... but understandable) or are we gonna have Kokichi's ideals and say his last words are a lie? I mean honestly though. He was gonna die. He didn't even know what the Remnants of Despair were! (I'm pretty sure he wasn't lying, it's implied the Monokuma gave the flashback light to the survivors(Maki, for her to kill Kokichi).
He never actually killed anyone. They said he caused deaths of 3 innocent ppl. I agree that was horrible, but am refuting the innocent part. Miu planned to kill first, Gonta chose to kill(although his death personally might've been mostly Kokichi which made me hate him for a short while), and Kaito chose to cooperate and if Kokichi's planned worked Kaito wouldn't have died not to mention he was on death's door anyway. (But he knew Shuichi was smart as he seemed to test him in Gonta's trial, and he always seemed to predict right so maybe he knew his plan might not work)
I don't think he really would've had anything to gain by lying in those dying words. No matter who you are, when you're near death, you USUALLY reveal your true self. I have so much more to say about this as there are other implications he was genuine and others he was not. Not to mention Kokichi died alone and untrusted, while Nagito got his comeback (anime spoilers: he was revived, and everyone forgave him) But of course, I believed that Kokichi's character was truly an enigma and another unsolved mystery left open to our speculation. Which is what I love about his character. But of course if I was in the game or he was a person in real life I probably would've punched him in the face. Woah this is a lot phew sorry.
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My gosh you are a mad lad like dang I honestly agree with all of it
Most kokichi kins: I see kokichi. I click
Yes.
You described me perfectly.
I feel called out
I dont know who kokichi is but he sounds very interesting
@@thisnameistimeless1937 1, he's from danganronpa, the third game. second, why did you click on this video if you don't know who he is-
I feel like Ouma didn’t really like the others as friends like you said, but he did acknowledge that they are (or were) living beings. I really think he has respect for the lives of others, maybe even a bit more than others that were in the game (like Miu and Kiyo). This kids leads me to believe that his “past” may have had an incident that caused him to view life and the lives of others highly.
we will never know...
poor boy.
I noticed something and it's been bugging me. The game makes it very very very clear Kokichi has three electrobombs. Maki steals one and uses it to get into the hanger and Kokichi uses one to disable the safety and cameras in the hanger. Thats one missing bomb. The bomb isn't in his pocket or his room. It obviously isn't in his lab and I'm pretty sure he didn't take it out of his pocket to die with the bomb. Once again Kokichi makes it clear he has THREE bombs. I want to know where it or what he used it on.
Note; This is just me grasping for ways he could be alive because he's my favourite but actually that bomb could tie into a way he could still be alive. He is known for being amazing at hiding and if he had that bomb he could hide from all camera's. We never actually see Kokichi's corpse or him on the press just a lot of splatter from what could be paint. Thiss is just me hoping for the better, I know that chance is near 0 D: But still, where did the bomb go.
I thought it's crushed along with Kokichi?
Idk
smuggi reality warped it out if the plot
But wouldn't he have died from the poison?
Kaito says it was crushed in the press along with the remote for the exisals. When I played the game, I thought this was a lie and we’d find them hidden somewhere, but it never comes up again so we’re forced to accept that as the truth. I think it would have been cool if we found out he used the extra electrobomb for sneaking around or if he left it for the remaining students to use, but alas.
Kokichi is very misunderstood by many people.. it's so sad to me how nobody even felt sad about him dying
This is such a good analysis! People always seem to (wrongfully) portray him as a "pure cinnamon roll" or "literal satan" and it's really annoying. I'm glad you acknowledge that though he has good intentions AND bad actions instead of trying to defend all his actions. I'd really love to see a Himiko Yumeno analysis. She gets so much hate just for "not appreciating Tenko" and being the Hagakure type survivor. I would really like to see someone explain her development throughout the game and her motivations and flaws.
Well, peoples can interpret him whatever they want to-
Even if the interpretation of Kokichi who make me the most angry is the "kokichi is a psychopath I love him so much 😈" jejejwjskeoqowi n o
My personal head canon is a cinnamon roll pregame Kokichi and a more complicated Kokichi in game-
I absolutely love kokichi's character. It's amazing to see how the writers put a lot of thought into each character. The series really doesn't get boring as it goes on. I thought that I was mind blown by trigger happy havoc, but oh man... v3. Love this series.
I might be wrong about this, but I think he's being genuine when his face turns red. Sometimes he'll cry & he looks normal, other times like in chapters 1, 4, & 5 his face is red. Like I said, I might be wrong.
Yes it's happening.
The first thing I see
A Kokichi Ouma- XD
Sayori Natsuki, Monika and Yuri Indeed.
Kokichi Oma
Dang it
There's already a dislike-
A analysis of best troller
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I'm surprised you didn't take the opportunity to say "Yippee! I've been waiting for this!" Kokichi.
im so sorry this got so much backlash!! i have literally never seen someone analyze and understand kokichi better than this video did, like genuinely!!! i thought i understood him very well but you knocked it out of the park with your thoughts on him. i love this SO much. know this video is a bit old but keep up the amazing work.
Backlash? I can imagine plenty of people having their own interpretations of the character, but I'd be really disappointed to hear that Weeby was attacked over it at some point. 😔
Tbh, Kokichi and Nagito were two of the people who had the most realistic reactions to the entirety of the killing game
yea, just not realistic actions.
This is my take.
A true leader does not have to be strong, he does not have to be rich, he does not have to have eloquent words... a true leader cares for their members... and the Ultimate Leader would care for them tenfold.
"Lemme know which character you'd like me to do next!"
Me: *Looks to my icon, my screen name, my twitter accounts*
Me: ........Shingucci
Definitely a great analysis, I can see the amount of effort you put into this. ~
I personally have the feeling that Kokichi a lot of times also actually would've wished for someone to actually understand his real intentions but at the same time was really scared of the same thing happening, henche why he has such a complicated relationship with Shuichi of whom he would've wanted to see through him but who never really understood him to the end.
Also I think that at times he intentionally used these overdoing of emotional outbursts so that people clearly notice that he's just acting. He wanted to be seen as lying even when he wasn't. Sorta in a way of 'double lying'. I noticed these things a lot. For example after Rantaros death: His initial reaction to Rantaros death was him being really shocked but right in the middle of him stammering about how he cannot believe it, he switches to his 'villain' persona and starts loudly screaming out how he was sad that Rantaro got killed, bursting in tears making it really clear to everyone that he's just exaggerating and not taking this serious. So he's literally covering up that he cares by 'acting that he cares in a way that could only be interpretated as fake' which is something I find really curious when it comes to him.
I was just thinking abt this line the other day. You know how he says “I want to win this killing game even if it means dying myself”? Well technically that would make him less likely to kill someone. Because if he had killed someone he would’ve been executed and therefore would’ve lost. Ouma is smart. He was onto the ‘we are being filmed’ thing early on. So he would’ve known better than to kill others. Yes, he was selfish and used Gonta to kill Miu. He wanted to win but knew the game would continue if he were to be executed. (I’m not super smart, so if some of this doesn’t make sense pls let me know ^^)
I think he uses lies as a coping mechanism. When he saw Gonta dead and cried, he got afraid that he was too vulnerable and lied to pretend that he didn’t care. Then he tried to save everyone by doing case 5, but failed. RIP Kokichi. I bet Shuichi misses you
@@bombaymessyasf kokichi didn’t do that himself?? tf r u even on abt 💀💀
@@jaxon1670 what are YOU on about, when I talk about kokichi and his methods of doing things I only say what he could've done better to ensure a greater more effective result.
Kokichi and Shuichi’s relationship is a bit like Komaeda and Hinata: Kokichi And Komaeda both have a strong interest in the protagonist, with the protagonist finding them confusing and irritating however still seem to be intrigued.
Great analysis Weeby! I never understood why Ouma wanted everyone to watch all the motive videos (his included) if he was so fixed on keeping on that evil/villian persona. Because if you think about it, if he and Gonta actually succeeded at gathering everyone together to watch the motive videos he would've had to showed his as well, and since his motive video states that his whole "Evil Supreme Leader" act is all fake why would he want to show it? My best guess is the group would want to see his motive video too (especially Saihara who I feel would be very curious). And I feel like they (the group) wouldn't let Ouma trick or lie his way out of not showing it to them, I mean if everyone is showing their motive video he should too right. Yet he still got Gonta to capture everyone so that they could all watch the motives. Idk just a thought.
i love kokichi for the insane, cunning character he is. not the “cinnamon roll” crap
It's funny how kokichi wanted nothing to do with Hope and Despair so he walked the middle line, giving both Monokuma and the Ultimates some candy so they keep going. He got antagonised and hated to the point where it wouldnt be strange if he woke up dead while even the Mastermind himself would entice the others to kill him.
At the very end Shuichi reached the conclusion that Kokichi arrived at, and chose neither hope and despair.
I'm watching this late 4 years later but one thing not mentioned is at the beginning of trial 4 (I think Gonta's trial) Oma asks Monokuma what will happen if the vote results in a tie and Monokuma says if that happens as long as one of them is right they are both the blackened, it's fine, whatever. So Oma was entering the trial with the hope that he could convince them to tie vote him and Gonta which was his plan and punish both of them. So his real wish was that he would have been punished in trial 4 but Monokuma went back on his words and only punished Gonta, causing Oma to cry...
This is further supported by the fact that Oma pretty much killed himself in saving Kaito's life, where Kaito still had something to live for no matter how short of a life it was (going to space), Oma felt like he had nothing to live for, he had lost Gonta and lost his DICE followers (if they were even real). Even if the world still existed/ there were survivors as he suspected, he STILL gave up his life to get closer to defeating the mastermind.
Oma was Chaotic Good alignment all along, not evil, and all of his lies had good intentions.
"At least I wasn't boring, right?"
And that is where. I break down.
I would have like an analysis of the end of trial 3. I wanted to see an explanation on why kokichi helped himiko confront her feelings even though hecan't confront his.
TheSexyDevil I think he did this because he knew if he didn’t she’d give up on life even more causing her possibility of surviving to go down while also affecting the other students in a bad way mentally, and so he brought up her spirits and motivated her by forcing her to confront her feelings like that so as to avoid further complications.
for the same reason people do this too:because telling other to do is easier than doing yourself.
Kodaka really made Kokichi’s character soooo well. The most powerful & smartest character is the Mastermind of course, but how smart Kokichi progressively becomes makes him a big target to the mastermind. I believe his strength was being able to outsmart the mastermind in which he did.
Can we have an o7 for Kokichi? He was shot in the back by a poison tipped arrow, shot in the arm with a normal arrow, nearly strangled twice, stepped through a floorboard, potentially felt mad after Gonta was executed, as he probably felt guilty for all of it, punched twice, nobody believed him, even when sometimes he was genuinely telling the truth, hitting his head, nearly fainting from blood loss, trust issues, etc.
He needs a hug.
Someone give him a hug.
But hate him or not, we all have to admit two things.
He didn’t deserve it.
And.
He rlly did done pack a punch when he done punched Kaito
The characters like byuakua, nagito, and kokichi are the type of characters I respect very much and who are beautifully written and do their job in the story very very well and I can't fucking stand any of them for all the right reasons
I've always wondered if Kokichi knew more than he let on. The example I often think about is after Shuichi left the Virtual World after rejecting Kokichi's offer to be partners. Kokichi commented "out loud" that he wouldn't give up so easily. He would've had no reason to say that out loud, especially if he thought they were being watched. So maybe he was trying to protect himself by making himself "interesting" to the audience. TV shows doesn't usually kill the fan favorites, right?
I also wonder if Kokichi suspected his memories had been tampered with. Since he knew Monokuma's actions didn't match the memories from the Flashback Lights, I wonder if he began to suspect his own memories which would've added to his paranoia and unwillingness to trust other people.
I HAVE BEEN AWAITING THIS. F A N T A S T I C
Edit: After watching, it did not disappoint! :D
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MeowYouToo I should've thought of that !
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KOKICHI PREDICTED MONSTER REBORN BEING UNBANNED IN 2018
Eric LeBow did he?
It was in One of the Free Time Events...
But the weird thing is: In the Japanese Version of the Game, MR wasn't Banned. The Main reason it became Unbanned, for the English version of the Game, is to Go alongside the Org-Artwork Release of the Card
Question is Tho: How would one interpret the Free Time Event in the Eng Ver when it was Org in Japanese?
That was an amazing analysis! I appreciate how you fairly went over and debunked the criticism on that line - my Japanese isn't amazing but it seems clear to me that the person was pushing their own agenda rather than trying to provide an unbiased translation (the verb is pretty vague as you pointed out). I'm guessing the removal of the 'no-killing' policy in the motive video was a mistake on NISA's part, especially since it's explicitly mentioned in the trial as if the motive video had said that.
Anyway, it's nice to see that you looked at both Oma's selfish (perhaps even arrogant) side, and his good intentions. I'm getting tired of people painting him as a pure cinnamon roll or a chaotic evil villain, he's a much more complex character than that. I never really could piece together why he acted the way he did in Trial 4 when he was partially to blame, so your analysis helped me understand that, thanks.
I'd love to see a sequel on his relationships, since you did a pretty good job covering them even if it was brief. They might be more clear-cut than his motives/true thoughts, but they're still equally fascinating imo. There's a lot of really interesting characters in V3 to analyse, but the ones I'd personally like to see an analysis on are Tsumugi (I feel like her true persona shares a lot of similarities with her cosplayer/otaku persona, just far more extreme), Kaito (an excellent foil to Oma with very different flaws and strengths) and Korekiyo (very twisted, but also pure in how he still sees the rest of the cast as friends and doesn't see anything wrong with his beliefs and mindset).
"I was in the library, smashing in Rantaros head"
That made me laugh into tears for some reason.
I think Kokichi is such a popular character not because he's "edgy", but his character provides a wide scope for the imagination, which can be built and rebuilt based on what you believe or don't believe from him.
Top 5 seesaw memes please xD
No but seriously, i'd like to see Angie's analysis (probably an unpopular opinion but oh well)
MeowYouToo honestly me too. most people like ouma but hate Angie even if she isn’t that bad
I would also love to see one, I personally liked her, but didn't fully understand her and would love a run down.
> Its currently 12 am
> i have to wake up at 6 am tomorrow
> open youtube
> 30 minutes long video on kokichi ouma character analysis
> cracks knucles
> im gonna fall asleep tomorrow at clas
I never believed the whole "in the Japanese version he said this" for just one reason.
Who's more likely to make a mistake? One person on the internet who _might_ know Japanese, or a team of four professional translators?
I'm glad you offered some concrete evidence to finally end this debate for good though.
Your next video should be an analysis of all the Love Hotel events. ;) ;) ;)
The misspellings are far more likely the result of a rushed production schedule than incompetent translators.
The thing is that something similar to this happened in SDR2 with Komaeda's "mistranslated" confession, but there are a bunch of differences between that situation and this one.
In this one, the _only_ source I could find was one tumblr post. One. Where as in Komaeda's case, multiple sources confirmed that he was about to say aisheteru. Multiple sources confirmed how strong the connotation was for that word. Plus, in that case, I still felt what the translators said was a fairly good translation, if mostly because there isn't a good equivalent to what he said in English.
In other words, while you're correct that this happens in other games, I agree with logic seeker in this case.
The problem with that specific sentence is because the verb "yaru" in question has a wide range of meanings which differ from meaning "to do something" to "have sex" and "to kill". It is pretty vague and therefore several translations could pop up.
Well, one of the problems with translation is that, especially with languages with Japanese where meanings are more ambiguous and most things don't translate directly into English, a lot of liberties are taken to make the meaning make sense to an English audience. A lot of the times, lines are changed deliberately to something completely different, to keep the same vibes that the original line would have in Japanese and sound natural and fluid to an English speaker. That's why some lines are translated into English by official translators a lot less literally than some random person on the internet would.
seqka711 they don't even include some other things in the english version that shows how kokichi feels towards others. Like how he called saihara beloved and some other things.
Wait a bit there. There's a reason why corrections about what was said make sense.
All translation work, when dealing with games and movies, needs to be localised. This means that we need to keep the overall meaning of it, but change the words so it makes sense for the cultural context of the destination area.
Many expressions have a LOT of nuance. If you say the phrase "I was so eager to cut you off" after cutting a character's head, for example, this can mean two things: a metaphorical meaning (as in "I was eager to not talk to you anymore") and a literal meaning (as in "I was eager to splice your head from your body"). This would be untranslatable inside a game, because writing an explanatory phrase ("I was eager to never talk to you anymore by severing your head") would 1 - sound unnatural; 2 - miss the wordplay; 3 - deviate from the original intention of the writer.
This is why many people rectify translations. Outside of the game, the original idea can be better explained without the constraints of the game media.
Kokichi is neither necessarily good nor evil. He's an asshole with a heart.
I unconditionally love him.
Same☺
That's because you are him