5 Reasons Why Suzuki should Never Stop Making Dirt Bikes
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
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The 2024 Suzuki RM-Z450 finished last in our 450 Shootout, but there's much more to the story than a result in our shootout. Our original MXA tested video covered lots of info about the unchanged RM-Z450. Now, we return back to the yellow machine and talk to Brian Medeiros who has been living with this bike, building it, maintaining it, and racing it. In this video, Josh highlights the pros and cons of the RM-Z450 and Brian explains everything he knows about this machine.
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if suzuki would make 2strokes again they will sell very good they ride so good
Damn right, bring back 2 strokes.
Unlikely Suzuki will, but with the new technology in Synthetic fuels and hydrogen hybrid technology, both MotoGP and F1 are testing 2 stroke engines at present with lower emissions than 4tstrokes, more power lighter weight and less carbon footprint, both are very serious about incorporating 2strokes potential as the new engine choice in the very near future which may revolutionize both sports and revise the snooze fest they have become! It will also bring back the talent and skill factor of the rider and driver over pure technology doing the work for them! It is also compatible with existing 2 stroke platforms, obviously MGP and F1 haven't had 2strokes for decades and they need to develop high stress engines to race at that level, but for us in MX we already have that!
KTM clearly new new this, hence the TPI, TBI development and also other Euro brands have been developing this tech as well even though not in production, they are ready for it, this will kill EV and maybe the reason why they are keeping an EV class separate, I hope so as this could be the biggest step in Automotive history without destroying it! We might not get the same smells but we will get the real sound back, dam that's exciting for the future and decision and implementation is soon, maybe another reason Ducati is getting into MX they see ICE engines aren't dead like the dead poet society have been preaching to us! 2t for life baby fck yeah!🤟 THE TRUTH is OUT THERE!
I agree!
yes. the last couple of years they still made 2 strokes the rm 250 was at the top of all the shootout lists
My 03 RM 250 was ridiculously fast. The reliability was top notch too
Gotta love when Roczen and Chiz still pull holeshots on their “old” RMZs and occasionally win. Makes me smile every time when they smoke the $100k factory bikes to the first turn. ✊🤘
Yeah cause they are riding a bike anybody can just go buy when you dump enough money into anything you can make it work decent.
If he gets on a good bike and is healthy he will be dangerous
Love my 24 RMZ 450, rides and handles great!
Brain is the reason i bought another RMZ450....imo ...still best looking machine ....👍👍👍
I have a 2019 rmz450 and with some slight modification I luv It,kick start forever!
Bought a 20’ with 5hrs very cheap. Racing D14 25+ and open B currently 1st in points. Season is early but I’m loving this bike.
Good job. I raced D14 through the 90's into the 2000's.
D14!
@@jro341 best time!
Yellow bike best bike 🫡
Yes they are, I have 2 brand new ones. 2018 and 2023. Brand new off the show room Floor. Great bikes. Comfortable yes- stands out!
I just simply like it! Love it!
@@user-ut3ti9rq5ualso have a 2023 rmz250 and a ktm 250sxf and i Like the Suzuki more
I respect the brand loyalty but you can not say they are the best. Literally just look at the stats. Love the bikes myself but they are not the best
I've owned my fair amount of Suzuki RM's from 1981 RM-80,1986 RM-125,2008 RM-250, a old 1985 SP-500, 2 1986 LT-230 quadsport 230 4 wheelers and lots & lots of other bikes and brands. KTM-300 XC is my favorite off-road Enduro bike period! I really wish Suzuki would do some R&D on 2-strokes because my old RM-250 handled great!
suzuki give this man a factory ride
I bought my first brand-new Suzuki in 2000. A RM 250. I built it for Glamis Dunes. I loved jumping on that bike. IDK if I got lucky engine-wise, but after some modifications I was beating every 2 strokes out there drag racing. CR500s, KX500s, and every brand 250 could not keep up with it drag racing. It was a beast. I regret selling that bike. When I sold it the engine was still sure strong. It was reliable. Even after hitting some of Glamis big booters, it has never failed me other than plastics getting ripped off from hard crashes.
My 03 RM was the same way. They were just under rated so people don’t know how bad a$$ they were
Have this guest on more often, nice having someone explain the real life difference
certain parts made and not just the 'paid product placement' of most other 'build' videos.
Agreed…it’d be cool to have Ekolu do an in-depth segment on suspension and setup!
Suzuki, Why Not, Yellow is the number one race color, I've ridden Suzuki's for years..plus Kenny Roczen Flys on it ..
End of the day if you stall in at pro level racing dont matter if it’s take 3 seconds or 20 seconds to start you gona be at the back of the pack .. I have 2015 rmz 450 had 3 of them first gen as well love them 2015 starts first kick hot 2nd when cold every time
I’ve had two RM 250s. Had a Honda CRF 250 between them and just never felt comfortable, so bought another RM. Just feels like home. I love them. Sucks they’re not doing much, if any RnD on dirtbikes.
I love the suzuki rm 450 please don't stop making suzuki rm mx bikes 👍🇬🇧
Always enjoyed the many Suzukis I've owned 👊✌️
Baseline geometry hasn't changed much since the nineties. All 450s make too much power. The only thing missing is electric start.
Yeah, the yellow one 😊❤️
2008 RM125 and RM 250 for Life!!
Been a yellow man from the mid 70's except for my 88 CR500. Replacement part cost and availabilty should be in the discussion. I had a valve stick and you can imagine the damage. Bike is less expesive, parts are not and are hard to find for older models
Suzuki fan for life here.
Suzuki built a two stroke and I’m in, I switched to KTM but would buy a Suzuki 2-stroke in a heartbeat! With a kick start!!
I love my Suzuki and hope to buy another in the future
My first ride on a dirtbike was on my friends 1978 RM 125 back in 1986. Feels like it was just yesterday. Been riding ever since. However miss the 2 strokes.
Something about that yellow and blue ❤
Got my first win on a fully modded Suzuki two stroke ✊😎
What does “fully modded” mean?
Full modified over 50 mods
Cool video concept. Looking forward to the other model bikes as well!
Very durable for sure I put 200 hours on one never changed clutch or piston never had Valve cover off it.
My old rmz had well over 500 hours before anything was done to it and was still running fine
I rode a 2002 rm 250 for sooo long and loved that bike. I always said that if they could shave some weight and add e start, I would get a 450 and race it in harescrambles. Hopefully, one day.
RESPECT & KUDOS TO YOU BRIAN & MOTOCROSS ACTION (THE BEST MX MAGAZINE ON THE 🌎 PLANET ) IM OLD SCHOOL & REMEMBER THE EARLY MXA UPDATES THAT WERE TESTED MY JODIES WRECKING CREW. LOVING THE TIPS . HOPEFULLY SUZUKI WILL UPDATE THIER MACHINES AS THEY USED TO BE CUTTING EDGE
I have 2021 RMZ 450 and i love it❤
Ask how handle rmz vs yz450 who best
Could you clarify the bent shift fork? I'm assuming damage post crash / racing incident. Is that correct? I have always loved Suzukis. My first Suzuki was a 1978 RM 100. Appreciate the MXA videos and their content. Looking forward to the next one.
Great tips, solid and sensible 🤟
BFRC shock can work very well, more rebound less compression and opened up check valve flow. That’ll do it. Cheap fix no need to swap out for KYB shock.
Want to pick up the sport again, and yellow is my choice
Love that bent rim at 3:17 lol
i can tell you why its underrated. cause cou call it the heaviest and the slowest. we are talking about 1hp and 2lbs to kawi. so its unfair to talk like we have 10hp gap
Imagine if Suzuki brought back the old 2 stroke. That would sell for top dollar
Thanks man!
Awesome vid your bike looks mint!!!!!
Bike of many champion's too 👌🏻
I like it. Nice work.
good bike wen u dont got somebody in ur ear telling u its bad
Ken Roczen's most notable contribution to the sport was his ability to make the moto press back peddle on the subject of Suzuki like their lives depended on it.
So true!!! 😂
After all the negative press the bike has got, I really try to watch Kenny's bike in certain sections like whoops. And Kenny's bike almost 100% of the time blitzed whoops so much better than almost all the other brands. This speaks volumes for how good the chassis is. And when they let the magazines ride Kenny's bike, they had nothing but praise for it, and also commented about how stock the bike was. Even Kenny's triple clamps were stock.
Another racer that put the naysayers in their place was none other than Ricky Carmichael. Remember they said he couldn't win on a Suzuki RM-250? Well he proved them very wrong!
@@Jeff-pc1zu Yep, all the "experts" said the move to Suzuki was career suicide...lol how wrong they were.
@OtisFlint I must say I'm not a Professional racer but every Suzuki RM that I've owned handled like it was on rails! Turning was always spot on,braking into corners and blasting out of a berm was near perfection on the RM and RMz's.
Humble Hayn. His dad was a HAmmer on a quad back in the day. Good stuff Kauai Boy.
I have seen a lot of Suzuki 2 strokes at the track lately and mostly kids riding it.
Best rider triangle for me
Nothing looks better on the track than an RMZ with yellow rims. Still looks sick after all these years! Lol 🤘😎
Kenny and other AMA pro's have proven that Suzuki can be competitive... imagine if they make a few changes to modernize their bikes a little, how much more competitive they could be? For example, I've seen Kenny and other's stall their bikes in the middle of a race and struggle to get them restarted because they have a kick starter and not an electric start. Just that one change could make the difference of a podium position or losing more valuable points. I wish somebody would interview the president/ceo of Suzuki and get to the bottom of their thinking. For example, why have they neglected their motocross bikes for so many years? They also make street bikes. They also make automobiles, etc. I would think that they have enough resources to update their dirt bikes... but maybe not? If not, why? What are they doing wrong? What management, engineering, marketing (etc.) changes can they make? From my point of view, it seems like the other Japanese brands, and Austrian brands keep updating and innovating. If things keep going as they are, eventually Suzuki will be left behind like the dinosaurs. I don't want to see RM's go extinct.
All you have to do is read about Suzukis finances. They very nearly went under in 2009-2011 and chose a conservative method of recovery because they were out of cash and their company was particularly susceptible to recession in comparison to the other big 3. Minimizing innovation and factory retooling has saved Suzuki perhaps billions of dollars.
Suzuki has only recently recovered from financial problems and Toyota is invested in them. They have done a lot of development in the street bike market the past 5 years and don't forget they won the 2020 MotoGP championship.
I guarantee in the next couple years we will see an all-new RM line, especially if the racing associations would like to update their outdated highly restricted rules.
@@microsoft790 Thanks for the info and I hope you are right about Suzuki turning their attentions to their off-road bikes!
Best looking bike hands down
I'm sure Ken Roczen isn't too happy w/there suspension right now. So sad he was showing what the Yellow streak can do!
Yeah, Ken’s suspension is far from what comes on the bike 😆
@@StevieDee73 maybe they should put factory back as that thing exploded something fierce.
Performance wise, and being somewhat forgiving to ride it sounds like a good beginner/novice bike. I am an old man, and short so I am partial to the electric start, so I got a YZ450F with a lowered rear link.
How tall is the bike compared to a stock KTM or Husky, after you swapped the rear link and made the suspension adjustments?
Suzuki, hell yeah! I have a kawa 250 and a cr250 2021,2022,2023. I still like my Suzi. Just feel comfy on it man!
Suzukis look so clean one of the best looking bikes. 2strokes always looked awesome and so do their 4 strokes
I'll give you one reason they make great bikes all round but for God sake put an electric leg on the bikes make all sizes from 50 mini build your brand and rider base at the grass roots level and bring back the RM 125 and 250 2st RM are a great base to start from and remember we all altered our bikes most underrated make on the market and track
I will be a Suzuk- fan forever❤
I don't know that I'd ever buy one, but they still snap my neck every time I walk by one in a showroom. Great looking bike.
The rmz450 vibrates like crazy.
Keep Suzuki!
Actually miss my rmz250 a lot. I'd buy another easy. Got that lil thing 6200 out the door, took it to the suspension shop, and rode the piss out of it for about 125 hrs
My Pops bought a new 250 in 1972 that bike ran like a Champ it would set all winter and start on the first Kick. I Know it is an old tank compared to these bikes but always had a soft spot. I grew up riding Yamahas first was a 1972 100cc and then a 76 yz 125 that thing was a Rocket. My Pops was a fork lift operator in G.M. Flint ( Chevy in the Hole) and my Mom was a church Secretary. We Didn't have much money growing up but we where $ Rich that we had a close happy family live clean live Right and Keep God Close I'm 58 years young and I'm looking to buy an older 2 cycle to Restore. If anyone has one my Name is David Palmatier I live in Linden Michigan some of the Great Riders have come from here.
If Suzuki make a new model of rmz 250 enduro i will buy it immediatly. Love Suzuki!!!
They have an Rmx450 but if they made an rmx250 that would be awesome!
@@aydenrich262 In Italy we don't even have the RMX 450 :(
Its funny how people are like I won't buy a Suzuki cause you gotta buy this, this and this for it. But will probably end up buying the same components for the bike they do end up buying lol
I’m a Honda fan but Zook is my second favorite.
I hope suzuki realize the 2 stroke hype is real. Rise the powerband.
Sounds like the noise gate might be too aggressive on the mic, otherwise, great video!
i love my 2013 Rmz250. Will never get rid of it. NEVER. people tell me to just get a new bike. its more than just riding a new bike. My bike is dialed
I sure hope after 2024 Suzuki Honda Yamaha Kawasaki can work out better tariff trade deals with the United States could be the last of those manufactures sold in the United States as kids growing up with them all
How tall (or short) is he?
Oh yes, we saw the reason why Suzuki should never stop making dirt bikes when we saw Kickstart Kenny and his wonderful Suzuki shocks! lol😂
That was not an oem Suzuki shock its aftermarket.
Can anyone chime in? I’m in between bikes atm. Coming from a 2020 450xcf A vet rider. I’m actually considering a 24 RMZ 450. I race HS and XC enduros. Aside from a larger tank and some protection, how would a RMZ 450 compare to the 450xcf in terms of engine performance? I know ktm has better brakes and other tech I don’t need it. I’m a “it’s the rider not the bike” racer so don’t need estart or Brembo brakes. Appreciate in advance.
🎉SUZUKI 🎉 HANDS DOWN BADASS BIKE!!!! I INVESTED YEARS AGO AND MY PARTS SWAP 🎉
its more about brand suppport to racing other than anything. since they started to stop racing suppoort it went down big. even on mxgp there is no more gsxr. so not so mch about changes. even with this bike , the pro racing would still have them like jgr and other that can make it work as we see kenny there, winnning. but brand doesnt care about it
suzuki still the best,, 😀😀👍👍👍
I'm sure if Suzuki were to add an electric start and at the same time reduce the weight of the bike they would sell a lot more bikes.
If they could do that and keep the price low a lot of budget conscious riders would pick Suzuki over the other brands. A tall order though.
I'm 60. IF Hammatsu went to an electric start (on their 250 RMZ), I would run to the dealership.
I have a 2021 YZ250F and a 2015 YZ250F. I’d take my kickstarter any day. Dead batteries are a pain to deal with.
I heard e start is coming this year
Secrets out. Maxima chain cleaners winnahs on the motor.
I would buy a Suzuki if they make new 2 strokes.
Yamaha honda zuzuki dert bikes are the best ever
And Kawasaki☝️
Is the Best bike Suzuki
Jody Wiesel never gave a 👌 to a zuki clutch 🤫 ever !
Considering riders have to mellow the other bikes out it seems slower is better…
Lol😂
The biggest thing they have done..is prove you don't need a new bike every coming out....like in my days ( 1970-90's ) the bikes could be kept 3 years and still be competitive.... but everyone wants their new smartphone too..
😂
🇨🇦🤓🤟
Heavy , Slow and hasn't been charged in a decade 😊 somehow people still buy it , Why change a thing , if Suzuki would just make the old 2 strokes again using the exact same formula ! They couldn't make enough to keep up with the demand
Suzuki quit a long time back as I'm concerned
The latest chassis wasn’t around in 2014🤦♂️
No yellow is great
I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BRANDS BECAUSE DIRTBIKES ARE ALWAYS DIRTBIKES THEY ARE ALL FAST IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE RIDER ON HOW HE RIDES THE BIKE. BRANDS ARE NOT A BIG ISSUE THE ONLY BIG ISSUE IS WE CANNOT AFFORD ONE. 🤦🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
If I could find one for $5k I’d buy it. Otherwise just doesn’t make sense IMO
That kid slammed Showa pretty hard about the BFRC shock. Suzuki,.that shock is a turd, abort.
Come back w a 2 stroke. Meh.
Yep, boring!
Hello Suzuki, make your two strokes again and keep the price down.
Lmfao, 30 hrs?
There's nothing wrong with Suzukis just not my favorite there still nice bikes
Love Suzuki. Despise Honda!
I’ll only buy Suzuki or Yamaha
Roczen might disagree with the durability claim. It sucks when your bike breaks, but getting thrown off because a shock blew up is worst case scenario.
Why do you think that was a Suzuki shock???
There are more than 5 reasons that they need to quit making dirt bikes, KTM, GAS GAS , YAMAHA , BETA , TRIUMPH , HONDA, KAWI, HUSKY, who wants to ride a POS time machine.
Suzuki's lack of effort is obvious. Kinda sad.
All fun until it blows you off the bike
Blame Roczens mechanic, not Suzuki
If you absolutely do no care about performance, resale and electric start…it’s a great bike.
Who buys a Suzuki 😅
I do🗿
@@aydenrich262
Funny
Way better then Honda or red problems is what I name them