"Most people think they know" - Grant Langston explains what a factory motocross bike really is...
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2021
- The team Factory Bike is used to describe mostly production machines these days. Grant Langston however came through an era in MXGP where a factory bike was exactly that. The stories of Grant's early days at KTM are incredible.
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Grant Langston is a South African World and AMA Motocross Champion, was the voice of the AMA Outdoors, along side Jason Weigant, for almost 8 seasons and owns one of the premiere motorcycle dealerships in the United States. He also happens to be one of the most fun dudes in the industry and I am so stoked I was able to chat at length with the man we call GL!
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Thanks for letting Grant articulate and finish speaking uninterrupted.
This podcast is ageing like a fine wine.
Yes, and not a smelly cheese with it too.
I love when professionals elaborate on the small behind the scenes details... it gives me goosebumps hearing them recall their young days as an amateur just turning pro and grinding through it all and becoming successful
Same man. Raced on ktms on 60s back when they just released the ktm 85. Good times
Nostalgia
Damn... I don’t know if I should be happy or sad that something so insignificant gives you goosebumps.
true but when he says they blew up every 5 min jokes kind off write themselves. Looks like they are keeping up with that tradition till today.
@@joey19xx73 What happened to your career?
This is one of your better ones mate... Grant's just explaining away uninterrupted.
Amen, Amen
I didn't know he could be quiet for that long. Even more impressive than the interview.
Yeah good job shutting your mouth. Really good job man. So proud
@@Dylans503 It's pretty bad when your fan base has to tell you to shut up and let someone finish their sentences without trying to finish their sentences for them. I'm still a fan though. Great content!
@@NeoMK lol yeah that's just kind of the nature of podcast though. Some times people don't want to just hear your conversation, they want you to be the actual host of a show.
This is probably my favorite episode. My dad would be so proud of KTM today (my dad was Rod Bush, the HMFIC of KTM America when GL came to America.) Absolutely loved this episode.
Rad story.
Wait a minute. That's my dad too! From his 2nd family. It's good to know that at least someone got his love as he abandoned us when I came out with a tail. True story...
Best motorsports podcast around. Jase is just getting better and better at interviewing people.
Lol not really get off his nuts
Pulpmx is way better even tho Jas is pretty good
Is that Bruce Anstey? 👍🏼
He's too is learning g and doing well at it.
He has good guest & thats what makes the podcast what it is. I will add that PulpMX paved the way for guys like this & is still the pinnacle for MX podcast. 👌🏽
Legend of a man right there ama wouldn't be the same without that voice
Unfortunately thats the case though!! Hes quit commentating
😂😂 yep he’s gone. Been gone the last like three races I think
Yeah I didn't watch the other video or read the description 😕 my bad still guna miss him tho
Y’all freaking love everything about ripping on 2 wheels, you respect the evolutionary history, and you damn sure get the best from every guest. J looked like a little kid listening to a bedtime story at one point while listening to Grant describe the epitome of life as a FACTORY RIDER!
10/10 A+ 100% Holeshot and Overall Gypsy is the One
Thank you as always,
-Castor
This is the good shit right here! Love hearing Grant going right in depth with the technical details of the bike development at KTM. Awesome content again guys.
Wow, seeing Grant Langston as "old" makes me feel really old. I used to go watch a friend of mine race motocross in South Africa when Grant was in a division below his (Andre Dierden was the person winning all the races in South Africa at the time after Greg Albertyn moved to America to race - I remember Andre racing against 125s on an 80cc at Pietermaritzburg, giving the field a 1 lap head start and still winning the race). Brings back memories for sure.
could listen to Grant for hours - great show
I was buying factory team quads from suzuki back in 2005, they ran them for 2 races, then it became a practice bike for 2 more races then the rider could sell it. When I would break something on it it was almost impossible to get parts or to figure out what they did. Rules required factory frame, factory engine cases. So they milled the factory case to accept a different crank, cdi box from a bike. When the engine finally blew it had to get shipped to Yoshimura to be rebuilt. I had the first Yoshimura carbon fiber tri oval shorty exhaust. The suspension was unbelievable, I had knobs and adjustment screws that nobody else had. I hated elka suspension but that setup was ridiculous. Stock 400 engine was about 27 hp mine was closer to 60hp running 110 octane and dominated private built 450s
And each bike was setup different. The bike from Glen Helen was more my style whereas the bike built for muddy creek was more of a tt setup, shorter swingarm softer suspension
How long did they last ?
@@GeauxFastRacing the motors were actually very stout. I would get a full mx season out of them, using same bike for races and practice. What's really crazy is I bought the bikes for like 5k and it would probably cost 40k to duplicate. The frames were stock frames with some mods to suspension mounts. But they only needed to last 8 motos for the pros. I would usually start to find some cracks then after fully gusseted they were fine.
Gust and Jones beat the shit out of these quads too. They lived on the podium
@@insanetaco98 yeah Doug gust was staying at my house to train on my track during the winter. He was the one selling me the bikes. I ran his Yoshimura ltz400 at a local race and people were trying to protest it
I've only been following MX and SX for 5 years now, so its good to finally put a face to the voice.
He should make his own podcast. He’s got a great voice and super easy to listen to
The studio in the USA really stepped up your game jase. I know you always said you wanted the guys in the studio with you but to see you adapt with covid restrictions really made for some great guests. I love seeing the progression of the podcast dude
Thanks heaps mate. It's a challenge but doing our best to make it work. Quality is #1 priority.
@@GYPSYTALES this is how you know the quality has been top notch, the first one I saw I was like wait how did they get to Australia with the travel restrictions lol
I thought the same at first. Well actually I thought Jase came here. Either way excellent show!
@@GYPSYTALES Indeed epic! Awesome content as always.
Agree with this. You can barely tell they're not in the same studio. It must be a pain in the arse to set up but it's worth it.
Love everything thing about this podcast. Thank you for making it and putting the time in. And thanks for letting people talk.
So refreshing.
Appreciate the comment mate! Means a lot.
My very first live mx race I watched was when Grant raced 80cc. It was his last race on the 80 if I recall correctly. Due to him being as good as he was he let everyone go at the start gate. When the gate dropped he stood there... waiting... I was like "wtf is he doing?" He waited till every other racer had shot through the first corner and were out of site. Then he shot off the line like a bat out of hell. To cut a long story short.... He won the race and almost lapped 3rd
Wow it is cool to hear stories like this. He got to experience soo much as a factory rider and to hear all of the details that we don't get to hear about is really cool. Your podcast is great and thanks for sharing with us!
Just incredible to listen to the history of KTM.
Its really cool hearing these stories. Thanks for this Jase. You are the best at bringing this to the public. 🚴♂️💨
I’ve met this dude multiple times. One of the nicest ppl that’s ever been involved with the sport.
He owns the shop near me Langstons in perris ca .
I’m not a KTM guy but this was awesome to hear the history and all the behind the scenes details!
I have huge respect for Mr. Langstons decision to show those higher ups that he is not one to be pushed around! I really enjoyed his commentating. Will miss it.
GL always been one of my favorite riders. I remember when he dropped back down to the 250f class in 05 and killed it in the east coast sx championship
This whole interview is up there with one of the best you’ve done Jas. Grants a G loved his old KTM stories
Wow!!!! What a great story. My 03 SX was a monster but never could get it to hold the front.
Great interview , uninterrupted, great detail !
Awesome to see Langston speaking of that time !
Good to hear a fellow South African on the podcast. Good ol GL.
Really cool, I am imagining what it must have been like building those factory bikes on the road in the early days, it must have been a lot of work but exciting stuff! What a cool journey to be a part of... ✌️🔥🏁
This was awesome. Thanks for the interview.
Not that you’ll ever read this Grant, but you’re a good man and while it seems to be quite unpopular with certain folks, I commend you for standing up for what you think is right in light of the division and quite honestly, the hatred thrown around by people these days. Wish I could afford a bike-I’d make sure to buy it from you. Of course, I’ve gotten plenty of hate being a wounded vet and wanting to still ride, just because my right leg doesn’t work correctly anymore. Anyway, I think you were done dirty and I’m proud of the way you handled it.
That was a fantastic interview and some great insight from Grant on the development of the KTM back then.
a factory bike means different to different people what *Grant* described in *Europe* would be a *works* bike in the *US* while a *"Factory"* bike is a production bike with a bunch of trick parts except for a few things like the frame etc
Carrot
Well said!!! That’s the way I see the terms of each
@@kylehoward8778 私の世界はニンジンに支配されています
This is the first video I've seen. At the end. I love how you listen Jace. I am glued to every word Grant says. Not like the other show with Grant. The other show is great
Just finding your Podcast and loving it. Not Interrupting is like getting the Holeshot!Too many podcasters are perfecting the skill of interrupting, you my friend put them to shame..thanks for that and stellar content.
Grant has some colour back in his face… Good run through those early days in Europe on the 125… Super interesting… Sweet interview Jase 🤙🇦🇺
👍GL for not being a pushover!
Great interview! Much love!!
Crushing it Jace! Keep it up brother, sending love from Michigan 🤙🏻
Another GREAT interview Gypsy!!!!
Just bought a bike from GL..enjoyed talking with him..👍..KTM
This was every kids dream. Getting a factory ride. But Grant makes it better than all the dreams I ever had ! Miss all the day's at Indian Dunes Race track. Those day's are long gone .....
It truly do be like that. Been lucky enough to see ktm guys working on new race stuff and they absolutely go balls deep on it. The whole working chain from the engineers to the riders and the mechanics. They do deserve huge respectect
I used to race the REM club races at Glen Helen and remember one weekend the KTM team showed up (before the nationals opener). They were Grant, and if I recall, Kelly Smith and Pingree? I used to brag about passing GL in practice ( his chain came off lol). That first race GL won, beating Brown on the PC Kawi. GL was flying at GH that year!
Good job as usual it's good to see Aussies doing well .
You the man, Grant!
Seeing Grant lose the 2001 125cc Nationals was one of the most memorable races (and seasons) I've ever watched. Ricky Carmichael had clinched the 250 class and raced a 125 that day to get the 125 overall win record. It was a battle to the end and watching Grant DNF from a flat tire in the last moto and then Mike Brown letting Ricky by so that he could get the overall while Mike could get the 'ship for Pro Circuit made for quite the day of racing. What a day. What a season.
Seeing your comment has just reminded me of a motocross magazine my Uncle Gaz (R.I.P) bought me years ago .. it had a feature on Grant and KTM along with a feature on Brown’s Pro-Circuit Kawasaki to … the bikes looked awesome and to top it off it was my 16th birthday and I’d just got my Aprilia MX50 road bike but my uncle Gaz also gifted me a pair of NoFear Kevin Windham gloves … it awesome that peoples memories can help others remember there memoriesl if that makes sense ✌🏼👌🏼💙
Cool G had a style on the bike that was ontouchable. It was a real treat to watch him on a 125 factory bike, a true legend of motocross.
The only MX podcast I’m subscribed to......
He ain't lying, I remember watching the GP's early 00's and the 125 line up must've been at least 60% orange.
Even the stock 125 KTMs had the best motor, by a long way!
Great stuff pro drifter new to riding MX. Soaking up all this great past knowledge.
Welcome to tha fold!
MX is like nothin else in the world hows it goin for ya? Drifter huh? That's some wild stuff and looks like a ton of fun. From an old racer who's too broken up to go fast I hope you love bikes as much as I do. Always wear full gear and have fun bro!
My buddy bought a brand new 2002 KTM 125 sx . What I remember was how fast that motor was compared to my 2001 yz 125 . And how light the rear end was with no linkage the KTM felt real light me and fast. I loved it . My yz was great but I'm the kind of rider who rear break slided corners and that KTM was great for that.
GL!!! Was awesome watchin a fellow SA guy kick ass in America!
Great topic and the Casio is on point 👌🏻 class
What an awesome segment
South African legend this lad. 🇿🇦 👏
I raced an off-road KTM from 2001-2009. I always struggled to understand the dynamic of the PDS shock until GL so plainly explained it. Square edges and the PDS did not go well together and now I understand why!
I think it’s just the lack of progression. In order to keep it from bottoming it needed to be stiff off the top.
My ribs , scared lung and pelvis are testimont to this
Winter sucks for a mod motor!!! That cold weather on a lean bike is just brutal!!!
Killer segment man
In the 70's the factory bikes became so much better than the stock bikes, that the AMA had to step in and made a rule that a rider could buy another rider's bike for I think at the time was 30 grand. Bob Hannah threatened to buy Marty Smith's factory Honda bike, so at the next race Smith showed up with a stock bike with works forks (which were estimated to cost 30 grand) and an FMF modified engine. Hannah went on to smoke him in that race on his Yamaha.
It's hilarious they got this whole video saying how much better factory bikes are, then simp for Hayden Deegan when someone tried to claim his. 😆
I have one of Troy Adams Suzukis from 2007 It’s a outdoor and indoor bike everything on the bike has been touched but I definitely had a lucky find when I traded a more stock Honda 450 while it was for one of Troy Adams 250 it’s a win in my eyes.
Thanks great insight to what the rest of us just dream of, or in my case dreamt of.
Awesome interview….love it
awesome show mate, huge fan from mexico
Thanks mate! Would love to get over there some time
I used to work for White Bros from 1998-2001 and our suspension dept specialized in WP suspension mods and service. I never heard anything good about KTM’s PDS set ups.
We bought a ex Primal Impulse Suzuki RM125 race bike in the very early 00s I believe it was, could of been late 90s. Compared to anything we had ever ridden it was simply amazing. I remember knowing I was going to come up short on a jump at Amago and thinking well this is how my life is going to end and that bike soaked it up like it was nothing. Also the motor mounts were all shimmed with super thin washers, something I do now on our bikes.
End of 2000 I was racing 80s at perris Raceway Grant was racing Travis Preston on a Husky at a local A class race. I remember being in awe of how fast GL was. Thought his Zebra helmet was pretty sick too haha
This was super interesting. Anything like this is great.
Of to Spotify to list to the hole podcast 👌
Born in 96, was into dirt bikes at a young age..this is awesome tbh.
GL ..... total legend!!!
Great interview…love from SA
Grant is a legend! Miss watchin him race a kid!
Rsa👊
GL is top notch. Class act!
Freaking love this vlog site.
Just got a new sub. Great interview man
Like Grant and like the store out on Ethanac. When we lived out in Sun City/Menifee the kid and I would go just to window shop sometimes. Sometimes we'd even buy stuff.
Another very personable legit podcast grant is impressive and a patriot not all the same shit love it keep it up Gypsy
Got my racing number 111 from him 🤘 loved watching grant race back in the day
Factory to me always meant the latest tech theyre allowed to run, $50,000 in billet parts and exotic hardware, 50 versions of every part adjusted to be perfect, incredibly well setup suspensions, swiss cheese-ing parts, hand built and toleranced motors that are as high strung level of tight as they can be, and more. Glad he cleared it up more for others
Exotic alloys.
Awesome interview
Man... if there was a camera there to get all of that trial and error and parts iterations... that would have been an awesome show.
Nice retro watch, dude! 👍
Outstanding. Non stop tech love it
it’s crazy how much the interviewer is shaking his head 😂😂😂😂
GL you are top notch, 100% class. Completely support you. F nbc sports.
Cool interview 👌🏻😎
The PDS is perfect for the woods. My mint ‘07 250sx is tremendous in the woods. So peppy. The ‘07 250sx is a wicked machine.
I know it’s completely different but, Ktm warranteed a fuel injector wiring harness on a Ktm 990 Adventure that the dealership had for months. On a bike I bought used, with 60,000 miles. I had zero warranty and no expectation of one. $3500 in parts and labor. I didn’t even buy the bike from a dealership. They covered it all. I didn’t even ask. When I finally talked to a rep he said and I quote “ it’s your first KTM, we want your next one to be a KTM too”.
My dad had a classic car that he took to a specialty shop for service. The same shop also built race engines for cars, specializing in BMWs. The manager showed me a 3.0L V8 and told me that it would make about 750 HP. He also showed me all of the parts in the cylinder head that were prone to breaking during a race. I asked him, "How many races does this engine last?" He responded by saying, "It depends on how long the race is."
Who woulda thought an Aussie would give such a good interview
Maaaaan great interview. Nice job
Love this content..
Great convo. Big fan of GL the more I learn about him.
awesome video bravo
The best whit this is the honest description what it was like at the time. Since it's so long ago there's no point to keep any secrets. An Interview whit a rider about a team and the bike during a on-going season whont be as honest since they have to think their answers through and not say to much about both their own place in the team and also be quiet about secrets on the bikes. This is way more interesting in my opinion.
Grant is my all time favorite rider.
He's referring to 'works' bikes, what all SX and MX factory bikes were before the AMA rule change requiring production based bikes. One of the things that make vintage MX bikes so cool is that they were so so trick for their day. Hand machined parts still look really cool.
Really cool listen
I learned alot from this. Jase U das mang!