Don't Touch: The Story of the U-Force

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
  • In 1989, the most anticipated new controller for the NES wasn't the Power Glove; it was the U-Force. Learn about the making of the device, its rocky road to retail, and the battle against the Power Glove.
    CHAPTERS
    00:00 - Introduction
    02:12 - Part 1: A New Way to Play
    14:21 - Part 2: Under Pressure
    27:12 - Part 3: Don't Touch
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  • @GamingHistorian
    @GamingHistorian  Před 2 lety +1943

    With this video, I have completed the holy trinity of NES controllers: Power Glove, Roll & Rocker, and now U-Force. What's next?

    • @purepwnage909
      @purepwnage909 Před 2 lety +117

      Miracle piano

    • @FiveToedSloth
      @FiveToedSloth Před 2 lety +161

      Gameboy sewing machine

    • @Davethe3rd
      @Davethe3rd Před 2 lety +112

      Power Pad.
      Or the Laserscope...

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious Před 2 lety +30

      All 3 of them were ahead of their time. And Nintendo never forgets.

    • @MentalLiberation
      @MentalLiberation Před 2 lety +28

      Possibly move on to the SNES...and the exercise bike

  • @beeto45
    @beeto45 Před 2 lety +716

    “You mean you have to use your hands?” “That’s like a baby’s toy!”

    • @MLBlue30
      @MLBlue30 Před 2 lety +41

      I'll never understand the 80s obsession with hating controllers. Lol

    • @beeto45
      @beeto45 Před 2 lety +18

      @@MLBlue30 it was when they were invented; with trial and error; error mostly... ;P

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio Před 2 lety +28

      @@MLBlue30 You never had to deal with shitty controllers. Controller-less gaming was to the 80’s what driverless cars are to us today.

    • @benayers8622
      @benayers8622 Před 2 lety +10

      I love bttf

    • @beeto45
      @beeto45 Před 2 lety +3

      @@benayers8622 so do i; maybe in 40 years they'll do a remake/sequel/reboot...

  • @taffysaur
    @taffysaur Před 2 lety +658

    I recall AVGN being really confused as to how the steering stick worked, as it just sits in a little groove with no connection to the device. Thanks for explaining how that worked, it’s fascinating.

    • @Ribby00
      @Ribby00 Před 2 lety +19

      Exactly! Very cool!

    • @flintlockwood1919
      @flintlockwood1919 Před 2 lety +18

      Exactly what I had in my mind during that scene.

    • @mccarthy5825
      @mccarthy5825 Před 2 lety +3

      Ditto mate. And Adam in your pic... Legend! 👍

    • @ssaunders1122
      @ssaunders1122 Před 2 lety +21

      Yall do realize avgn is playing a character blinded by rage and anger. You are so frustrated you don't see what's easy and clearly in your face.

    • @Kazuma42
      @Kazuma42 Před 2 lety +66

      What's awesome is James (or AVGN) voices the quote at about 23 minutes

  • @carlosfranceschy9428
    @carlosfranceschy9428 Před 2 lety +369

    It’s always fascinating when you can contact the actual developer and hear their stories directly from them. Great job

  • @Cory_
    @Cory_ Před 2 lety +414

    "We've GOT to beat the Powerglove." is the funniest statement ever.

    • @rayelgatubelo
      @rayelgatubelo Před 2 lety +9

      I don't know, that Lucas guy is kind of scary.

    • @LuckyBird551
      @LuckyBird551 Před 2 lety +39

      From looking at both products, and remembering what the 80s was like, I have a feeling that the reason the Power Glove was selling better was simply because it had a cooler name, and it looked cooler as a product (plus the whole being in a movie thing). If the U-force had a more badass name, and had edgy black finish with red highlights instead of that pale gray, it would have sold better.

    • @realrentalsman
      @realrentalsman Před 2 lety +1

      Yes

    • @El_Bastardo
      @El_Bastardo Před 2 lety +15

      I love the powerglove. It's so bad!

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs Před 2 lety +2

      @Shoenheim No one told Nintendo lol

  • @sintalius
    @sintalius Před 2 lety +695

    I'm always blown away by how professional and deep your documentaries are. Gaming Historian truly stands out amongst the huge amount of video game content on CZcams.

    • @portostrengthunion
      @portostrengthunion Před 2 lety +3

      Absolutely True

    • @johnny-becker
      @johnny-becker Před 2 lety +1

      Check out his earliest videos. Night and day my friend

    • @mikeworkman3593
      @mikeworkman3593 Před 2 lety +5

      You've obviously have never watched PBS, which is exactly what he modeled his channel after, including the little "funding is provided for" thing at the end of every episode. It def makes it seem more professional.

    • @sintalius
      @sintalius Před 2 lety +1

      @@mikeworkman3593 Not from USA, don't think PBS is a thing here. If it is, you are correct, I haven't seen it.

    • @nodrogstacey7813
      @nodrogstacey7813 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mikeworkman3593 I never made the connection with the old PBS docs! Now that you mentioned it, it's so obvious lol

  • @nicks4802
    @nicks4802 Před 2 lety +450

    In an alternate universe,
    We’re all familiar with the phrase:
    “I love the U-Force… Its so bad”

    • @Luna_Kirisame
      @Luna_Kirisame Před 2 lety +5

      lol, i get it

    • @dtester
      @dtester Před 2 lety +20

      "Yeah, well, uh, just keep your U-forces off her, pal, huh?!"

    • @TheCrazierz
      @TheCrazierz Před rokem

      I understand that reference

    • @steveharvey2102
      @steveharvey2102 Před rokem

      It makes me wonder if they would have used the, "He touched my breast" scene from, "The Wizard", followed by an announcer playing the U Force.
      He turns to the camera and says, "There's no touching with this Force, The U-FORCE!".
      Lol Man, that would have been so stupid funny :)
      They also could have hooked up with Lucasfilm and made a commercial, featuring Luke, missing his first try at hitting the Death Star exhaust port.
      Then, out of nowhere, we here Obi-Wan...
      "Use the U-Force Luke!" Luke looks down at his X-Wing controls, but now, he sees...the U-Force instead...etc., logical conclusion. Lol
      What do you think sirs?

    • @74Spyderman
      @74Spyderman Před 20 dny

      Is that quote from the movie “The Warlock” starring Ed Ravage?

  • @GreatFox42
    @GreatFox42 Před 2 lety +187

    I like this guy. He seems pretty genuine. Passionate about his work, and admits the mistakes made but learned from it. I guess enjoying people lighting up is the mark of a true toymaker.

    • @spacecube3514
      @spacecube3514 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Did he learn from it? His conclusion was that they should have concentrated on 1 game and straightened out the manufacturing issues. Not that the concept itself is bad. Which it is.

    • @FocusSight
      @FocusSight Před 2 měsíci

      Care to explain why it is inherenrly bad, especially if there was specialized software that could take advantage of it? ​@@spacecube3514

  • @darktetsuya
    @darktetsuya Před 2 lety +126

    23:43 "if I had the U-Force to do over again, I would've designed games just for it" watching this made me realize it never DID have any dedicated games like the power glove did, that probably would've been a good way to show the other companies how to make the device work! I guess we'll never know how much it would've really helped, though. I had no idea that there WERE any games for it! guess that one just never came out since it was too late

    • @azrael6280
      @azrael6280 Před 2 lety +4

      Yes. This is why I hate products like these. Like, how can you sell these stuff not realizing it's only good for certain types of games, they could just state that in the ads/marketing and it would have better reception

    • @azrael6280
      @azrael6280 Před 2 lety +2

      Like, what part of gaming is good where you have to punch the air to jump on Super Mario Bros.

    • @findantu
      @findantu Před 2 lety +3

      Power glove had like 3 games for it and they all sucked .

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild Před rokem +1

      @@azrael6280 absolutely. Just be UP FRONT in the marketing.
      I saw one of these at KMart and almost bought it but too many unknowns.

    • @spezkay81
      @spezkay81 Před rokem +2

      I had one too. Got it in 89. I shit my little pants when my dad got me that thing. Then we plugged it in. Thing was a giant piece of shit. Biggest let down ever

  • @VerdantRange
    @VerdantRange Před 2 lety +405

    It was a pleasant surprise to hear James Rolf in this.

    • @greenmaillink
      @greenmaillink Před 2 lety +5

      As soon the episode began, I was hoping to hear him do a read. Wish granted!

    • @PurpleMintSam
      @PurpleMintSam Před 2 lety +20

      22:37 too 😃

    • @criznittle968
      @criznittle968 Před 2 lety +9

      You mean the angry nintendo nerd, or James 'The "AVGN" Nerd' Rolfe?

    • @JoakimOtamaa
      @JoakimOtamaa Před 2 lety +22

      @@criznittle968 It was James, just not in character.

    • @GameyRaccoon
      @GameyRaccoon Před 2 lety +12

      @Alex Garner cut him some slack. It was almost 5:40.

  • @anton1990
    @anton1990 Před 2 lety +417

    A bad day instantly turns into a great day when the Gaming Historian brings us a new episode!

  • @AiakosVids
    @AiakosVids Před 2 lety +92

    I'm really happy to see you include interviews with developers. I feel like when it comes to video game peripherals (especially older ones) people tend to write them all off as soulless cash grabs from corporations looking to make a quick buck from gimmicks (although there's no doubt that lot of them were indeed just that), but I really like the way this video and the mega man DOS video specifically reframes these kinds of products in a way that's more conducive to their actual histories as passion projects.

  • @LTGiants2000
    @LTGiants2000 Před 2 lety +27

    Huge AVGN fan here, somehow just found your channel. You put a ton of research and effort into your videos and the quality really shows. I am so happy I now have hours and hours of videos to watch on your channel, thank you!!

    • @runnersdialzero1244
      @runnersdialzero1244 Před rokem +6

      I saw "AVGN" and thought this was the comment that talked about him doing a bit of narration about 22 minutes in. NEAT.

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns Před 2 lety +122

    I remember wanting the U-Force so badly after seeing the commercials for it with Mike Tyson's Punch Out. I eventually got one for my birthday, and I spent more time pretending it was a futuristic laptop than an actual Nintendo peripheral lol.

  • @jtlerch
    @jtlerch Před 2 lety +60

    Well I know I'm a game nerd when I recognize James Rolfe reading out some of the quotes.

  • @Tempora158
    @Tempora158 Před 2 lety +32

    23:02 Broderbund learned the hard way that "If you build it, they will come" DOES NOT work with new game platforms, and the U-Force was basically a new platform. If the platform holder wasn't willing to risk their own money to make a game for their platform, why in the WORLD did they expect someone else to risk their money to make a game for them as a favor? It took them so long to realize this that by the time they did something about it at 28:44, the U-Force Power Games game that should have been made in tandem with the U-Force got cancelled.

  • @flashuser777
    @flashuser777 Před 2 lety +39

    "Making a game dedicated to an expensive controller could be risky..."
    Steel Battalion: Hold my 40 button twin stick controller
    I would love to see a docu on that thing and how it came to be...

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand Před 2 lety +4

      I think a major difference is that it was largely proven technology. Just joysticks, throttle, and pedals with a number of additional buttons. All stuff that existed and worked well for flight simulators. In addition to that, the Battletech Centers had already shown that there was interest in a mech simulator and several games (e.g. the Mechwarrior series, Armored Core, Heavy Gear) on PC and consoles.
      So yeah, it was expensive, but it was also selling a proven control system in a proven genre. Price is the biggest issue and expensive flight sim setups have sold for years.

    • @Gojiro7
      @Gojiro7 Před 2 lety

      I agree, a documentary on the most over the top gaming accessory ever would be great, as someone who owned one for a time, it was the best but it was clearly a bad idea to market and that would make for a interesting video

    • @sporehux8344
      @sporehux8344 Před 2 lety +2

      Steel Battalion happens when the finance people don't show up to a pitch meeting.

  • @Poever
    @Poever Před 2 lety +232

    Always the story with these NES era accessories: they were too early and the technology wasn’t ready

    • @linuxstreamer8910
      @linuxstreamer8910 Před 2 lety +4

      I'm curios what will those be when them where made now

    • @jjenk911
      @jjenk911 Před 2 lety +10

      Exactly. If the U-Force was made today with games made of it, it would sell really well.

    • @NO-AH562
      @NO-AH562 Před 2 lety +8

      Idk guys the U-Force would be like a vr accessory, I don't think it would be a great controller for casual players. It would make an amazing vr accessory if it were that small though.

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Před 2 lety +88

      “History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme.” - Mark Twain

    • @ruekurei88
      @ruekurei88 Před 2 lety +17

      Technology was kinda ready. Problem is that you have to heavily kneecap all these products to get them down to consumer level products. It was the same issue with a number of products back in the day, including the Power Glove and even VR and stuff like Virtual Boy. Still true today I feel.

  • @Big_Money_Salvia
    @Big_Money_Salvia Před měsícem +1

    This is such a gem of a channel, can't believe I've never heard of it until now. These videos are wildly professional.

  • @TRJ2241987
    @TRJ2241987 Před 2 lety +1

    9:53 that is such an epic mullet, I can't even wrap my mind around what I am witnessing. So rad

  • @majorjoe23
    @majorjoe23 Před 2 lety +127

    Nerdiest of nerdy corrections: Good Vibrations by The Beach Boys didn’t use the Theramin, because the band found it too difficult to play. It used an electro-theramin, ET’s use a knob to alter the frequency, rather than the placement of the musician’s hands.

    • @BeatleJWOL
      @BeatleJWOL Před 2 lety +12

      Came here to say this. :D a common misconception though.

    • @MMallon425
      @MMallon425 Před 2 lety +2

      That's cool, I was wondering when he was playing it about never having heard one with a higher or lower pitch. Can you scale that with the electro-theramin?

    • @DAndyLord
      @DAndyLord Před 2 lety +3

      @@MMallon425 A friend of mine has a theramin that she can pitch control with a pedal.

    • @armyofninjas9055
      @armyofninjas9055 Před 2 lety +3

      The controls for theremins can be varied and diverse. I've seen foot pedals, knobs, etc. Basically, anything with a potentiometer.

    • @VidweII
      @VidweII Před 2 lety +2

      You some kinda *geek* or wot??

  • @BenCol
    @BenCol Před 2 lety +167

    0:52 “If you’ve got hands, you can do this!”
    As opposed to all those game controllers that don’t use your hands. Too long have foot-controlled video games dominated the industry!

    • @startedtech
      @startedtech Před 2 lety +20

      Only DDR mats and the NES Power Pad existed before this :)

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Před 2 lety +53

      And technically, you could play the U-Force with your feet!

    • @BenCol
      @BenCol Před 2 lety +16

      @@GamingHistorian I’d love to see that: someone trying to beat Super Mario Bros. or Punch-Out on a U-Force with their feet. That’s the true test of skill for any pro-gamer!

    • @lainwired3946
      @lainwired3946 Před 2 lety +15

      @@GamingHistorian well, technically, you can use any controller with your feet lol. Look at those dudes with no arms who do archery.

    • @GetYourBeaks
      @GetYourBeaks Před 2 lety +4

      @@BenCol Zallard1 playing Punch-Out blindfolded, upside down, using a U-Force with his feet is probably the next logical progression. I mean, anyone can technically do it but he'll just take their WR lol.

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming Před 2 lety +10

    Norm, this video is a freaking masterpiece. Those 37 minutes flew by. The only downside is that I'm going to have the U-Force song stuck in my head all week now. Seriously man, fantastic work.

  • @trendmassacre8423
    @trendmassacre8423 Před 2 lety +4

    I love how you give your videos the PBS feel, which make your videos more bearable to watch compared to other videos from other CZcamsrs.

  • @Lost_n_Found_1
    @Lost_n_Found_1 Před 2 lety +145

    To paint a perspective: I was 8 years old when this thing came out, and I loved my Nintendo. But he's right, Mattel was a marketing juggernaut. The Power Glove was all we ever saw. We had no idea this thing even existed until many, many years later. Bummer.

    • @j.d.6915
      @j.d.6915 Před 2 lety +12

      Additionally, Power Glove was in The Wizard, which was a huuuuge marketing bonanza.

    • @tjwoosta
      @tjwoosta Před 2 lety +1

      Yep, I was about the same age then. I had a power glove, never even heard of the u-force until now.

    • @39zack
      @39zack Před 2 lety +2

      And it was bad, so bad! 😎

    • @residentelect
      @residentelect Před 2 lety +7

      @@j.d.6915
      Being in the UK the 8-bit micros' were far more popular at the time these peripherals were released. Most of us had a ZX Spectrum, Commodore C64 or Amstrad etc, but we all had a mate who bucked the trend and owned (and who's parents were willing to shell out for) an NES or SMS.
      One of the lads in our little gang was spoilt rotten by his parents who had separated and thus spent his birthdays and Christmas's locked in a battle of one-upmanship to win his love lol I remember being absolutely astounded (and a little jealous) the Christmas he recieved the Power Glove from his Dad, but after a day of trying to actually use it to play Bad Street Brawler, Super Mario Bros and Topgun, I returned home and was far happier playing Airborne Ranger and Turrican with my Cheetah Annihilator joystick 🤣

    • @j.d.6915
      @j.d.6915 Před 2 lety +2

      @@residentelect Oh yes, I had a friend that had a power glove too, and it was a POS.

  • @Nefi424
    @Nefi424 Před 2 lety +37

    To this day, hand tracking in VR is still expensive and imperfect. While this isn't the most intuitive of concepts, it was certainly ahead of its time

    • @NO-AH562
      @NO-AH562 Před 2 lety +1

      It's pretty good, just incredibly expensive.

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza Před 2 lety +6

      That's because hand-tracking in VR (assuming you're talking about controller-free hand-tracking here, and not regular VR motion controllers which have can have laser-precise tracking depending on what system is used) has always been experimental, often patched in as an afterthought. Can't really expect too much from something that's not the main focus.

    • @cantcommute
      @cantcommute Před 2 lety

      You don't understand how insane it is that they got this to work. Like it's literal physics lab tech in a fucking nes controller lol

  • @DonaldCroswhite
    @DonaldCroswhite Před 2 lety +2

    I've seen some people complaining on Patreon about long waits for videos. When you watch and see the production quality, full content and great narration, the wait is worth it.

  • @Beldan4
    @Beldan4 Před měsícem +1

    I remember being a child, my mother took me into an marketing research place with a bunch of other kids. They refused to tell us anything about the the products, and all the other kids seemed to be fixated on the glove. The glove...it was easy to infer what it did. However, when I saw the U-force I knew intuitively just how freaking awesome it was and was kind of disgusted by the limited imagination of the other kids for not realizing it either. Only today, some 30 odd years later with the hand tracking in VR devices do we finally get what the technology was ready for when I was a child. It's such a loss.

  • @Monkey_SK
    @Monkey_SK Před 2 lety +434

    I wonder if Josh kept to his word and never went back to a normal controller. Can see him now playing GTA5 with his U-Force.

    • @PurpleMintSam
      @PurpleMintSam Před 2 lety +21

      I'd love to see a current interview with him

    • @filth_nasty
      @filth_nasty Před 2 lety +23

      I wonder if he still rocks a sweet mullet

    • @barbugia123
      @barbugia123 Před 2 lety +2

      Unironically, it could somewhat work

    • @davidabest7195
      @davidabest7195 Před 2 lety +9

      Realistically he probably died of a drug od like 10 years ago

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 2 lety +7

      @@FluffyBunniesOnFire grownups called the NES pad a joystick, it’s nbd

  • @user-ct1md9lw9d
    @user-ct1md9lw9d Před 2 lety +65

    I love when you upload and I have to double take.
    "Is this a new video!?!?"
    >checks upload date

  • @davidsarton976
    @davidsarton976 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm so used to videos that dump on peripherals of old that didn't exactly win over consumers, so it's a breath of fresh air to see a cool-headed take on the U-Force.
    And getting James Rolfe to voice the quote about how a consumer would likely choose the new game over the new controller was a stroke of comedic genius.

  • @proximacentauri8256
    @proximacentauri8256 Před 2 lety +2

    09:55 you can't be more 80s than that hairstyle man, amazing!

    • @3rdEyeWide
      @3rdEyeWide Před 3 měsíci +1

      The perma-receding hairline of Lars; the mustache and steel-eyed squint of James; and the long, blonde cascading back-locks of Dave (Mustaine) - this guy's got it all!

    • @proximacentauri8256
      @proximacentauri8256 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@3rdEyeWide 😂 Its like that 3d pictures that you have to cross eye to see them, i can see him now with short hair and now with a mullet. 🤣

  • @liquidmetaldefender
    @liquidmetaldefender Před 2 lety +196

    Something about AVGN having his voice in this has some delicious irony to it lol

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P Před 2 lety +22

      I remember it working well for him, for the most part. Still couldn't land in Top Gun, however.

    • @FreeportHometown
      @FreeportHometown Před 2 lety +18

      He never really said anything bad about the U-Force. He kind of just showed it working.

    • @KirbyVanPelt
      @KirbyVanPelt Před 2 lety +16

      @@Chaos89P **flashbacks at the Power glove episode where he MANAGED to land the plane on Top Gun**

    • @FreeportHometown
      @FreeportHometown Před 2 lety +5

      @@KirbyVanPelt Lol I'll never forget the look on his face when he pulled that off

    • @JeanRodo
      @JeanRodo Před 2 lety +9

      @@FreeportHometown or when he beat the final boss in Zelda 2 with the power glove

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Před 2 lety +49

    James Rolfe really did a great job voicing on this video, As well as Dave Capper the Inventor! I was really impressed with the Controller.

  • @Highness.09
    @Highness.09 Před 2 lety +8

    Great video as always!
    Dave Capper seems like a really fun guy. He's passionate and his speech at the end was pretty inspiring. I wonder if he likes Nintendo's Toy-Con stuff.

  • @SerpentNight
    @SerpentNight Před 2 lety +6

    I remember some years ago Stuttering Craig and Handsome Tom gave the U-Force a ripping in one of their ScrewAttack! vids. Thing is, James Rolfe briefly appeared in the video as the Nerd and when he tried out the U-Force about a year later in one of his own videos, he was ironically somewhat kinder to it. Go fig.

    • @mrnauseouz
      @mrnauseouz Před 2 lety +2

      Now those are names I haven't heard in a long time...a long time.

  • @adamkirchoff5714
    @adamkirchoff5714 Před 2 lety +47

    I haven't been a "gamer" since the NES days. With that said, I am absolutely floored by the content of this channel! You're docs are BETTER than Network TV and I can't thank you enough!!!!

    • @hulkwarrior
      @hulkwarrior Před 2 lety +1

      Most modern docs are second hand trash, this channel is impressive.

  • @takwu0
    @takwu0 Před 2 lety +60

    This youtube channel is the only one I just refuse to watch on my phone, because I need to watch this on a big TV screen. It's that good. Thanks again Norman.
    In hindsight, as the creator said himself, this device should have been launched with a killer app, maybe even bundled with it.
    In today's market, they can still try to relaunch this as a standalone classic console, with a few built in licensed games. Around 10 or more would do.

    • @ViciousTuna2012
      @ViciousTuna2012 Před 2 lety

      Yup, and they should have all the extra attachments unless they're needed for that game. Maybe even sell them as extras as use cases arise. This would lower production costs, allowing them to alleviate some of those build quality issues by bulking up the housing. If the product became a hit then they could further maximize profits by selling the extra gear to customers, possibly even tied into a new game.

    • @ViciousTuna2012
      @ViciousTuna2012 Před 2 lety

      Yup, and they should have all the extra attachments unless they're needed for that game. Maybe even sell them as extras as use cases arise. This would lower production costs, allowing them to alleviate some of those build quality issues by bulking up the housing. If the product became a hit then they could further maximize profits by selling the extra gear to customers, possibly even tied into a new game.

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 Před 2 lety

    9:55
    That.
    Mullet.
    Is.
    *_GLORIOUS_* _!!!_

  • @michaelb9537
    @michaelb9537 Před 2 lety

    22:36- love the cameo narrator!

  • @Khazrihl
    @Khazrihl Před 2 lety +45

    "Gameplay is king."
    Truer words will never be spoken.

  • @jaythomas468
    @jaythomas468 Před 2 lety +112

    When you really think about it, this thing was basically the Kinect a good two decades before the actual Kinect (and didn’t require an HD camera for tracking).
    That’s kinda amazing in and of itself.

    • @General_Cap
      @General_Cap Před 2 lety +4

      The xbox one Kinect was quite the evolution in motion tracking as well, and the kinect Azure may very well be a path for 3d roomspace tracking.

    • @DarkShroom
      @DarkShroom Před 2 lety +5

      the ambition is ahead of it's time.... however having ambition ahead of time is not impressive at all, since like the powerglove, it doesn't really work but they flog it to kids anyway to recoup their loss

    • @thetrophygamer3606
      @thetrophygamer3606 Před rokem +1

      @@DarkShroom yup. It’s called being so far ahead of the curve you can’t take advantage of it

    • @DarkShroom
      @DarkShroom Před rokem

      @@thetrophygamer3606 it's called sales bullshit if you ask me... anyone could have said a motion controller would be great... actually making one is different

  • @CarletonTorpin
    @CarletonTorpin Před 2 lety +1

    Worthwhile thumbnail update. Love it.

  • @Pogokoala
    @Pogokoala Před 2 lety +8

    Damn this was very very good, especially when you have one of the makers into the video, it really enhance the experience of this channel. Thank you Gaming Historian. what an eyeopener in a business perspective.

  • @kvance877
    @kvance877 Před 2 lety +40

    Amazing that you were able to get an interview with Dave Capper. Seeing all the products he had a hand in, this guy is a pop culture icon. A tremendous video as always, Norm.

    • @johncip
      @johncip Před 2 lety +3

      Dave struck me as the kind of guy who never misses an opportunity to brag.

    • @TheRealManbropig
      @TheRealManbropig Před 2 lety +2

      In my opinion, most of the products he had a hand in were garbage. I grew up with a lot of the toys/gadgets shown in this video. A lot of them were poorly made and broke easily.

  • @jayboomus
    @jayboomus Před 2 lety +58

    Loved hearing James! I was thinking about him throughout the episode, since he introduced me to both the power glove and U Force on AVGN

    • @countrystud1986
      @countrystud1986 Před 2 lety

      What? James isn't anywhere in this episode. What the hell are you talking about?

    • @Mortalitor
      @Mortalitor Před 2 lety +5

      @@countrystud1986 at 22:38 You can hear his voice. Then you hear some kind of sign off "Steven Isenburg. Analyst". That's very clearly James Rolfe, I'm not sure why the deception.

    • @jimmyreed2405
      @jimmyreed2405 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Mortalitor he's reading a quote from Steven Isenberg.

    • @CardfightVanja
      @CardfightVanja Před 2 lety +3

      @@countrystud1986 he's literally thanked in the description for contributing his voice to the video

    • @zickykane5206
      @zickykane5206 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Mortalitor He was just reading a quote, goofball lol

  • @danarose2677
    @danarose2677 Před rokem

    Love the Ziggy on the coffee mug at about 11:22

  • @erickr4ndom
    @erickr4ndom Před 2 lety +6

    Dear Norman. This is awesomely written, superbly produced and executed video! Congratulations. I can only imagine the time it went on getting the research for all the data, footage and interviews provided. Hands down the best channel about the videogame industry history.

  • @davidandadamplaygamesphelp3601

    The Uforce was actually pretty genius in it's design And believe it or not it actually worked really well

  • @eduardogomez4275
    @eduardogomez4275 Před 2 lety +49

    I only knew about that controller because of the AVGN, never thought it would have such a history behind. Cool video, as always!

  • @yaboileeroy3038
    @yaboileeroy3038 Před 2 lety +1

    This came on autoplay while I was at the gym. Was not disappointed.

  • @andyrocks6174
    @andyrocks6174 Před 2 lety +2

    these documentaries are awesome. so glad every time you upload. i wait for months in anticipation and understand why they take so long, because you pour a lot into them and they're worth the wait everytime. thanks.

  • @rhsxo
    @rhsxo Před 2 lety +42

    As someone that actually had this as a kid, I can attest, this thing was a novelty item. It was frustrating to use. I always wound up unplugging it and plugging in my normal NES controller. Cool idea though.

    • @spugintrntl
      @spugintrntl Před 2 lety +8

      I feel like that describes motion controls in general.

    • @xenxander
      @xenxander Před 2 lety

      no one wanted a 'novel' controller. That's the problem with all of these crap ideas.. fads.

    • @c5mjohn
      @c5mjohn Před 2 lety +3

      This was my exact experience. I remember being mad at my parents for buying it for me and my brothers instead of a game. Watching this video, I'm sure my parents got it when it was $30, so not as bad, but still annoying to think about.

  • @GobotWars
    @GobotWars Před 2 lety +7

    It's always cool when James Rolfe shows up in a video

  • @ChainsGoldMask
    @ChainsGoldMask Před 2 lety

    11:31 Ziggy The Human Bean on the mug is such a nice touch, sir.

  • @subliminalvibes
    @subliminalvibes Před rokem +1

    7:45 - Mars Attacks theme!!! 👍😎

  • @petwisk2012
    @petwisk2012 Před 2 lety +96

    I love this Dev, he's so pacionate, even If the product wasin't the best he tried his best to bring motion controls to console marketing in the 80s, and he didn't gave up after the Uforce failed

    • @clblanchard08
      @clblanchard08 Před 2 lety +6

      Just like the Power Glove this was a clearly case of trying to cram 100 pounds of shit into a 10 pound bag on top of all of the manufacturing shenanigans.
      Neither would replace a traditional controller and everyone but marketing knew this. In my mind the neither the Power Glove nor the UForce failed. The technology was clearly there; it just wasn't feasible to try and make it work for everything.

    • @Assimandeli
      @Assimandeli Před 2 lety

      @@clblanchard08 Technology was there, but probably not for the NES. Especially how the powerglove was dumbed down a lot.

    • @Marzimus
      @Marzimus Před 2 lety +1

      @@Assimandeli Kramer?

  • @snipersEND
    @snipersEND Před 2 lety +20

    22:37 I love that you got James Rolfe to say this quote, it sounds like something the AVGN would say (just with less swearing)

    • @moreblack
      @moreblack Před 2 lety +1

      I thought that voice sounded familiar

  • @Bargadiel
    @Bargadiel Před 2 lety +10

    I just wanted to say a couple things, now that I've seen a number of these Video Game Historian videos over the years.
    As a kid, the game industry was full of mystery to me, there was so much innovation going on and things would just kind of appear. We naively never thought about ourselves as consumers back then, we just wanted to be a part of what everyone else was doing. New games and controllers were exciting and when someone at school talked about something they just got for their Birthday, it was alot different than the days of pre-orders and all that which we have now.
    Now that I'm an adult and have worked for a few companies, what fascinates me about these documentaries is that it really just shows all these game companies and developers were just doing their jobs, often struggling with the same problems we have with our own jobs and responsibilities/goals today. This isn't to say that it de-mystifies anything for me, but it's humbling to see the inner-workings of this industry often parallel some of the problems we face as a part of any company.
    It's a treasure to get to hear from the developers themselves how they went about doing all this.

  • @jonathaneytchison6841
    @jonathaneytchison6841 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you Gaming Historian! As always A+ quality content! Thank you so much for putting so much effort into your documentaries. It's really the only thing out there like it. Also, that was pretty cool that you got James Rolfe as a voice over in there! Keep up the amazing work my friend!

  • @FiveToedSloth
    @FiveToedSloth Před 2 lety +52

    The Uforce blew my mind but I never had one. As an adult, I bought a Kinect just to bring my younger self's dream to life!
    I didn't like it.

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Před 2 lety +20

      When I was a teacher, we had an Xbox 360 + Kinect that classrooms could rent out. I don't think anyone ever touched it.

    • @chadfugate564
      @chadfugate564 Před 2 lety

      you didn't miss anything

    • @FiveToedSloth
      @FiveToedSloth Před 2 lety +9

      @@GamingHistorian I'm surprised you had one available! But not surprised that no one used it.

    • @dadrising6464
      @dadrising6464 Před 2 lety +2

      @@GamingHistorianin the end it found most of use in robot developement ;)

  • @MissMTurner
    @MissMTurner Před 2 lety +5

    What I love about your videos is hearing from the actual people involved. It's so great to get that firsthand experience and perspective.

  • @erolddehaseth7642
    @erolddehaseth7642 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing production and editorial quality. The attention to research and detail is commendable, Keep up the great work!

  • @nick-playercharacter8583
    @nick-playercharacter8583 Před 2 lety +3

    I've been following this channel since the early days and it continues to one of the absolute best on CZcams.

  • @BeatleJWOL
    @BeatleJWOL Před 2 lety +8

    Loving this recent focus on the people behind the project. Seeing the history unfold is one thing, and always great to see. Hearing from the voices behind these things that may be lost to time otherwise makes it even better.

  • @megaemmie
    @megaemmie Před 2 lety +21

    I never even heard of the U-Force as a kid growing up with an NES. The first time I was aware of it was the AVGN video of the various NES accessories.
    I think I saw the power glove advertised in Nintendo Power or maybe I saw it in the Wizard. I got a power glove for Christmas in ‘89 but my parents returned it when they saw the glove was too big for my hand. 😢

  • @jackmojo
    @jackmojo Před 2 lety +2

    The production quality of your videos, and the amount of research you do never ceases to amaze me.

  • @ArthurKiyanovski
    @ArthurKiyanovski Před 2 lety +4

    Excellent video as always!
    I love it that James Rolff read some stuff. It really adds to the feeling of "youtube one big family". Great touch.

  • @MrTomFTW
    @MrTomFTW Před 2 lety +20

    What a great insight Dave Capper gives at the end there, with many years of successful products now under his belt. It felt like a very satisfying end to the video and the story of this weird little accessory.

  • @PatTheNESpunk
    @PatTheNESpunk Před 2 lety +535

    Fantastic video! I had one friend who had the U-force, but it was never used. Pretty similar experience to the Power Glove -- after you have one, you realize that it's not worth the trouble in trying to use it.

    • @mwk1
      @mwk1 Před 2 lety +9

      Patrick! Pick up the phone! ;-)

    • @xenos_n.
      @xenos_n. Před 2 lety +9

      One of the least surprising people to see here.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před 2 lety +5

      I had a friend that had one, and I thought it was so cool that I had to have one too. It was every bit as effective and fun as Gyromite with ROB.
      Looked cool, though. (Also like ROB.)

    • @darthdome2
      @darthdome2 Před 2 lety +7

      I love your Chanel from fan in Thailand

    • @AB0BA_69
      @AB0BA_69 Před 2 lety +21

      Hey Pat. You still think people who voiced their dislike of Diablo Immortal are "babies", lmao?
      Suck it down!

  • @ChrisCoelho
    @ChrisCoelho Před 2 lety +1

    dude your videos always blow me away, you put so much work and effort into your videos you deserve the success you've gotten!

  • @davebronze8829
    @davebronze8829 Před 2 lety +1

    Man I love your videos. Nice to see AVGN was part of this too. I'm from the UK (and in my 40's) and don't remember the U-Force but great to see it made it over her, albeit briefly.

    • @ultrairrelevantnobody1862
      @ultrairrelevantnobody1862 Před 2 lety

      Let's just say the NES in the UK was a very different story compared to the US and Japan.

  • @marchingham
    @marchingham Před 2 lety +13

    This was awesome! Can't believe how many awesome products Capper has had his hand in for his career. Dude is a legend! Also you and James Rolfe working together makes me very happy 😊 Would be very interested in learning more about how Sega dominated the UK! Great work as always!!

    • @TheRealManbropig
      @TheRealManbropig Před 2 lety

      I think you and I may have different definitions of "awesome." In my opinion, most of the products he had a hand in were garbage. I grew up with a lot of the toys/gadgets shown in this video. A lot of them were poorly made and broke easily.

  • @retrospect
    @retrospect Před 2 lety +101

    Been waiting for this one 😘

  • @austinpoznoski3083
    @austinpoznoski3083 Před 2 lety +30

    absolutely unreal that this channel hasn't hit a million subs yet. GH makes some of the best retro gaming content available anywhere

  • @777lando4
    @777lando4 Před 2 lety +2

    Hitclips, tooth tunes, video now??? this dude is the goat

  • @NO-AH562
    @NO-AH562 Před 2 lety +7

    "This is the most radical change in controllers since video gaming was invented"
    Nintendo 64: hold my beer

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 Před 2 lety +13

    Really cool how many notable late 90's/early 2000's products this guy was behind as well. His resume must read like a millennial's nostalgic goldmine.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 2 lety +3

      Right? Seeing Hit Clips and Video Now was like damn, the same guy was behind those?

    • @ssaunders1122
      @ssaunders1122 Před 2 lety

      I'd say it'd interest more gen x.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 2 lety +1

      @@ssaunders1122 he’s had a lengthy career.

    • @kyler247
      @kyler247 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ssaunders1122 no? Those things came out in the early 2000s. If you were a part of gen x and watching cartoons on a video now and listening to backstreet boys on a hitclip people would have been looking at you strangely. I'm 28 and grew up around those toys

    • @Justin-Hill-1987
      @Justin-Hill-1987 Před 2 lety

      @@ssaunders1122
      Generation X - (born 1965-1980)
      Generation Y (Millennials) - (born 1981-1996)
      Generation Z (Zoomers) - (born 1997-2012)
      Generation Alpha - (born 2012-2020s)
      I'm surprised some people get us *Millennials* mixed up with the *Zoomers* when talking about us.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#/media/File:Generation_timeline.svg

  • @nicholaspaiva9608
    @nicholaspaiva9608 Před 2 lety +1

    I can’t get over the production and content quality here. Just gets better and better!

  • @RyuFalchionX
    @RyuFalchionX Před 2 lety +2

    Always enjoy how consistently well made these videos are.

  • @HOWLWOLF
    @HOWLWOLF Před 2 lety +8

    Been watching Internet Historian since I first started watching CZcams almost 12 years ago, still is one of my favorite channels. The quality only gets better and better.

  • @mwk1
    @mwk1 Před 2 lety +24

    I've always thought that U-Force was a Konami product, hence the Top Gun "stearing stick" addon ;-) Interesting vid, thx!

    • @Luminousplayer
      @Luminousplayer Před 2 lety +2

      i think konami made the head-set voice controlled zapper

    • @teranokitty
      @teranokitty Před 2 lety

      The U-Force logo kind of looks like Ultra's, which was Konami's shell company.

  • @escadrums2
    @escadrums2 Před rokem

    Love that the AVGN - James Rolfe helped reading quotes/ narrating

  • @davidmreyes77
    @davidmreyes77 Před 2 lety +19

    The “U” in U Force stood for underwhelming. I had it upon release and was frustrated by it. I respect the idea behind and now in retrospect we see how the technology behind it paved the way for modern systems. But yeah, back in 1990 we really just needed a basic controller and we were good to go.

    • @Make_Ukraine_Russia_Again
      @Make_Ukraine_Russia_Again Před 2 lety +3

      Or unworkable. Just like the Power Glove, it simply didn't work or do anything it claimed to do.

  • @urmie
    @urmie Před 2 lety +10

    22:00 Oh my God! Is that failed Xbox exec Don Mattrick? What are the odds?

  • @WhiteScarsEmo
    @WhiteScarsEmo Před 2 lety +37

    Amazing how "handless" controllers are still dodgy as hell, right up until today's times.

    • @Nocturne22
      @Nocturne22 Před 2 lety +7

      @@stuporman I remember when Xbox bragged about how you could use Kinect to control your tv and DVD menus. It was fun for like a minute, then you realized how janky it was.

    • @WhiteScarsEmo
      @WhiteScarsEmo Před 2 lety

      @@stuporman You got me thinking of the game, "Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor". Pretty much all of the reviews tore into the bad controls (Kinect).

    • @BBHood217
      @BBHood217 Před 2 lety +1

      U-Force crawled so that Wii and Kinect could walk.

    • @ShaunDreclin
      @ShaunDreclin Před 2 lety +4

      Modern VR controllers are actually _really_ good (particularly ones that use lighthouse tracking), you should give them a try if you haven't. Much better than the wii's waggle wands

  • @WaddleDee105
    @WaddleDee105 Před 2 lety

    Your videos are so professional and well-researched! Extremely entertaining and informative looks at all the out-there ideas companies had for games back in the 80's/90's.

  • @brianmartinez3234
    @brianmartinez3234 Před 2 lety

    So very glad to see you're still making videos, norm! I'd started getting nervous, it had been so long!

  • @lai5115
    @lai5115 Před 2 lety +8

    The Gaming Historian uploads a video. Today is a good day.

  • @DJKi2463
    @DJKi2463 Před 2 lety +15

    Truly I’m glad the U Force is getting the respect it deserves. Power glove was interesting. But I find myself more invested the U Force and it’s history. Good job Norman

  • @brazilmugenteam
    @brazilmugenteam Před 2 lety

    Amazing work on the video! Loved how you mimic the U-Force logo on the texts. Nicely done!

  • @traviswright456
    @traviswright456 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I just bought a U Force off of Ebay for $45.00 yesterday. I always wanted it as a kid but couldn't afford it. I'm excited to try it out. I'm a dork I know lmao.🤙👍🕹🎮

  • @mscottjohnson3424
    @mscottjohnson3424 Před 2 lety +36

    Lol, "we've got to beat Power Glove." The idea of U Force and Power Glove in serious competition is just hilarious to me.

  • @RetroJ3000
    @RetroJ3000 Před 2 lety +3

    Every video Norm makes is so damn good. Really cool that he actually got to interview the creator!

  • @xxxYouTunesxxx
    @xxxYouTunesxxx Před 2 lety +3

    I remember getting a hold of a U Force back in the day. My first reaction was "WTF do I do with this thing?" because I tried using it with the games I had, none of them played properly. After about 20 minutes I tossed it aside, never to be used again.

  • @Macho_Fantastico
    @Macho_Fantastico Před 6 měsíci

    I had no idea that the U-Force was such a big deal. Fascinating to hear from one of it's creators. I love the U-Force adverts too.

  • @CoreyHart13
    @CoreyHart13 Před 2 lety +16

    Shoutout to Norm. This channel is so consistent. Never ceases to amaze me how intresting these seemingly bland topics become when funneled through the lens of The Gaming Historian. Another Gem. Thanks for the entertainment. Today was a rough one for me, and this gave me 30mins of escape and joy ✌❤💯

  • @JaxHad
    @JaxHad Před 2 lety +4

    I had a feeling yesterday that there might be a new 'Gaming Historian' episode. I looked and was disappointed so this was an awesome surprise today. I've never been a hardcore gamer but I grew up with a Super Nintendo.. I was even one of the few "lucky" ones who got a Virtual Boy for Christmas that fateful year. The only game I ever really enjoyed playing on it at all was 'Mario's Tennis', but it was always an uncomfortable experience in various ways. Sadly it was destroyed in a basement flooding incident.. I find early gaming history to be endlessly fascinating for some reason and your documentaries are my favorite by far. Looking forward to more big-episode like this in the future. Headed over to Patreon now 🥰👍🙏🙌🔥🍄😃👋

  • @LordTeaboBaggins
    @LordTeaboBaggins Před 2 lety +1

    I want to live in a world where this is Part 1 of a 3 part series about The Controller Wars of the 90s

  • @justadhdmuzyka3627
    @justadhdmuzyka3627 Před 2 lety

    It's Saturday and I have an almost 40 minute Gaming Historian video to watch, what could be better?