Sonic Hereos PS2 vs Gamecube vs XBOX Comparison upscaled by RetroTINK 5x 1080p
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Which version is the winner here? I will pick the gamecube version. :)
Pretty sure there is a big difference on Stage 3 which has some lava in tubes, and it's only correctly done on the GC version....I'm pretty sure the texture is either missing or just not nearly as good on the Xbox version.
Xbox and GameCube and I do like the double edge shadows GameCube got
@@Spaghettaboutit Missing is what I’m going with and I was annoyed the Xbox version I play a lot was missing that and thought it should have been PS2 to suffer that
Nintendo GameCube and XBOX
Xbox version is the winner!
The GameCube version lets you turn off the deflicker filter which is kinda nice.
what is that ?
@@sukagitartapinggakjago5447 A deflicker filter is a blur filter that makes everything a little softer. It was used on 480i games so the interlace flicker of a CRT is less noticeable.
@@Supersayainpikmin aahh i see
@@Supersayainpikmin So that’s why Xbox didn’t need it.
@@destroyermcw626 It still would have been useful for people back in the day for people that had to use their Xbox in standard def, like me lol
The PS2 has blob shadows, while the Xbox and GameCube both have proper character shadows.
There's obviously a lot more that handicaps the PS2 version (such as resolution) but that's an interesting flaw that I didn't notice anyone else point out.
anyone who played resident evil 4 on the gamecube back in the day know it was a powerfull little box. im happy thats the version of sonic heroes i had
The PS2 version is the worst. It only runs in 480i, runs at 30fps during gameplay with slowdown, has lower-quality textures, water effects and shadows, has the worst load times, and the music and voices are more muffled in comparison to the other two. I also noticed some missing details in the PS2 version like the missing seagulls at the beginning of Seaside Hill. The PS2 version also runs in a lower vertical resolution than the other two at 448 pixels high, though that's small potatoes. Surprisingly, draw distance between the three looks to be the same. As for GameCube and Xbox, there's not that many differences. The water looks the best on the Xbox version (in my opinion), it loads faster, and the FMVs aren't cropped. While not showcased in the video, the Xbox version does have some slowdowns not present in the GameCube version, though it's minor.
I agree with most of the points you mentioned except the water. The water movement (effect) looks more natural in the GC version to me.
@@wobblingpixels3921 That's fine. I think the colors of the water is better on the GameCube but the overall water appearance is better on the Xbox. But both are better than the PS2 version.
In some parts of the video GC has the worst water effects
@@mandibiedermann2246 Okay.
For some reason, the Xbox version is missing a few sound effects.
It's clear this game was originally made and optimized for the Gamecube before porting to others. Besides missing audio effects and less clear audio on the PS2, there's many graphical errors and textures that are inferior or missing on the PS2 and to some extent, the Xbox as well.
0:55 Starting with the loading screen, you can see the spinning logo is broken and stops spinning on the PS2. The Xbox loads the fastest, but it also has occasional spinning crashes. Only the GC spins without ever stopping or slowing down.
1:14 The PS2 has the worst character shadows since they are just all circles. The GC renders the shadows most clearly and detailed, especially noticable on Vector and has a double shadow effect. The Xbox has more simple shadows and lacks the double shadows. It's also missing the shadows to Vector's arms.
2:05 Not much different comparing the GC and Xbox. However, the GC renders Tails eyes with a brighter blue iris that the others are missing.
4:51 PS2 has a more blurry water effect. GC renders the water ripples very clearly and more detailed. It also has a subtle waveshore effect. The Xbox seems to be suffering from some sort bug since the water ripples look rather pixelated.
5:50 The Gamecube has round blue light engine exhausts coming behind the vehicles. This effect is broken or partially missing on the PS2.
Pause at 6:10. The PS2 has trouble reproducing the hovering jets behind Omega fully. The lighting also seems to be dimmed on Omega and has trouble reproducing bright reflections around the armor from the sun like the GC does to give it that shine effect. The Xbox looks the darkest and has almost no light reflections.
About tails' eyes in gamecube, it also happens to the rest of characters. That their eyes stand out from the shadows
Xbox>GameCube>PS2. Xbox wins but not by a mile. PS2 is decent but terrible if compared to the other two. GameCube is a solid pick and you can’t go wrong with it. The clear winner would be based on controller preference if you were picking one to play, assuming you’re somewhat of a purest.
I owned a PS2 when released because I was happy with my PS1 and it was very successful. Xbox came out with no history so I didn’t want to chance it and later I found out that resolution wise, it’s a better console with even more power. GameCube I didn’t buy into when it released but for visuals, they could’ve marketed the component cables better than a China and Nintendo website only.
Dunno which is the best, but here's some neat tricks. On modded system, the Xbox version can be widescreen patched via espirral's XBE patch, and when playing in 480i, can be ran without a flicker filter.
The GameCube version should be able to be wide-screen patched too using nintendont. While the ps2 can probably use those 16:9 OPL cheats.
Did anyone else also notice that the PS2 is the only version that the characters don't blink their eyes? I always was curious about that, and I don't think anyone else ever noticed
I grew up with the PS2 version, but a couple years ago, I got the Xbox version (I play it on the 360 though). I feel like it was a huge upgrade. I played the GameCube version WAY back in the day. It was really good too. I noticed it's the only one that has the metal characters cheat in 2-Player mode. You can tell it was meant for the GameCube. The PS2 has the lowest framerate sadly, for a console that really could've done a much better job. They just didn't put much effort forth into making it for that system. Both the Xbox, and the GameCube look the best
Yeah. Considering games like Battle for Bikini Bottom, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 - American Wasteland, Incredibles, Burnout and even GTA PS2 Trilogy play better than Sonic Heroes despite all being on Renderware. PS2 owners deserve PS2 ports because PS2 might be the weakest, but it's still capable. Just look at Jak & Daxter, Twisted Metal Black, Final Fantasy X, Silent Hill 3 and Devil May Cry 3. There's no excuse that the PS2 version of Heroes (Or any of the other Sonic games released on the console) will be this bad. Maybe if they delayed the PS2 version and give it more time to iron then it would've and should've been better.
@@chrisfarleyshrek4347 it definitely should have been better. They should've put more effort into it, but it's like they didn't really care sadly
@@autolife2785 Yeah. Sad truth that most of the time the PS2 always gets the worst ports. That's why I got an Xbox for multiplatform games because it has more power to it and always gets the best performances, graphics and pretty much anything for any game. Wish I could say the same for the Sonic games but Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Heroes felt like rushed ports if it's gonna go down frames on Xbox vs. the stable 60 FPS on GameCube so I bought them on GameCube instead of Xbox. If the game is not on Xbox then I get the GameCube version. Only reason I even have a PS2 is for exclusives like Jak & Daxter, Smackdown Here Comes the Pain, Twisted Metal, Tekken and a few others.
@@chrisfarleyshrek4347 yeah I play my Xbox version of Sonic Heroes on my 360, and in certain levels, there are some huge frame drops. Don't know if the original Xbox is the same (mostly because the 360 backwards compatibility is glitchy).
@@autolife2785actually, playing the Xbox version on 360 has far less slowdown
I would say NGC > XBX > PS2. The PS2 can't compete being 480i, Xbox looks nicer but in the Espio scene there are freezes even if later apper to run smoother. So just for that the NGC seems the be better
What does 480i have to do with anything? It almost literally makes no difference.
Xbox has faster loading time, but GameCube has the best graphics and performance
@@AWISECROW The PS2 runs internally at 224P interlaced to 448i upscaled to 480i. that's why it looks so blurry on a modern TV.
Fun bit of trivia for you, the PS2 was supposed to be a 240P machine with anti-aliasing, but the anti-aliasing was scrapped last minute.
Now the Emotion Engine has to do both CPU and GPU work which is why the PS2 often runs at half the frame rate of its Dreamcast, GameCube and Xbox counterparts. Because valuable CPU power is being taken up by the GPUs lack of power, which in turn kills frame times on the PS2, so it cannot manage 60fps without major tricks involved.
This is also why many more demanding games run at similar performance to the N64 (224P - 240P and 20 - 30fps) such as Shadow of The Collossus.
Thank you so much for Upscaling the native console ports, now it looks good at 1440p60 wished it was Ai Upscaled to 4K60 instead of 1440p, but you did well!
As for Comparison
1. Gamecube Version is running 480p at 60fps, it's the sharpest, had better shadow quality & best water quality Comparison example 4:50
2. Xbox has the second is running 480p at 60fps, it has same Shadow quality as CG, lower water quality, less sharp 2D HUD Ui than CG Better Metal reflection on character example 4:05
3. PS2 is the Third and it got lower quality world Textures, water and circle shadows, lower quality HUD Ui, and Lower resolution because of 480i at 30fps
PS2 IS GOOD AND BETTER IT RUNS 2727272772FPS ITS BETTTER THEN XBOX
@@Switchwall I know you are joking and being a PlayStation fan that make no sense, but i respect you.
Xbox version looks the best. I’m curious how all of these versions would compare to the PC version through. I know you don’t post PC content on here though so I won’t really anticipate it or anything
PC is a Port of Xbox which makes sense
I agree. I grew up with the PS2 version, then at my school I saw the GameCube version and was blown away by how smooth it ran, and the frame rate was so smooth. It also had the metal characters cheat in multi-player. But then just last year, I got the Xbox version for my 360, and it looks even better. Overall the Xbox is the best one in my opinion.
@@destroyermcw626 2
@@autolife2785 Metal cheat is available on Xbox/Xbox 360 as well
@@MagicoMessi11 3
1. The PS2 version is the only one to run at 30fps.
2. Loading times are better on Xbox and much worse on PS2. ( 0:53 )
3. If you look at the water on the right you will notice that the reflection effect on the PS2 has been greatly reduced compared to the Game Cube and Xbox, the texture quality on the wall on the left also appears slightly lower, but this could be an effect of the lower resolution from PS2. ( 1:12 )
4. The Xbox version has some random lags that the PS2 and Game Cube versions do not have. ( 1:14 )
5. The 3D models in the PS2 version are more polygonal than those used in the Game Cube and Xbox version, this is very noticeable in Tails' head and ear openings or in Knuckles' gloves. ( 2:07 )
6. The PS2 version does not have dynamic shadows for the characters, just a black ball shadow. ( 2:28 )
7. Texture quality in the PS2 version is reduced on walls. ( 4:32 )
8. The quality of the water effect on the PS2 is much lower quality while on the Xbox it is kinda glitchy, on the Game Cube it looks better and matches the PC version. ( 4:51 )
Conclusion: The Game Cube version is definitely the best, it's almost as if the game was made with the Cube hardware in mind.
Hey, pretty good comparison. Especially the water and textures. I prefer the GC water but Xbox is close all things considered. The only real downside (that anon7906 didn't realize) is that the GC version even on the Dolphin emulator, the audio is 32khz instead of 48khz that the PS2 and Xbox can do. Likely cause they're straight up DVD players and can deliver proper Dolby Digital instead of 32khz Pro Logic 2. The Xbox version is the highest quality version of the game in every category. Wish they were widescreen though.
Pero en gamecube se escucha mejor que ps2 en el hardware original el sonido esta en otro nivel de calidad de sonido
@@XeniNalivansky-s7f Oh, the sound design makes it worse and unbearably distracting according to Reddit. The PS2 has nothing going for it.
The PS2 version is like the last gen version of a game, while the Xbox & Gamecube versions feel like the next gen versions.
Either way, the PS2 version was sadly the most played one due to being the best selling console.
Even though in my opinion the PS2 is a crappy DVD player trying to pass itself off as a console.
I do wonder if they focused their development primarily on the PS2 version, then ported to the other consoles.
Would the PS2 version have turned out a lot better?
It was like that with the PS3 I think.
Seems to be a rule of thumb to focus on the hardest one first and foremost.
calling the ps2 a “crappy dvd player trying to pass itself off as a console” is pretty goofy considering games like god of war 2 and okami exist, games that look almost as impressive as any of the best offerings of the xbox and gamecube- all while being an older and more versatile machine. It easily could have run heroes as well as the xbox and gamecube, but the poet was a last minute call for sonic team.
Of course the xbox and gamecube are still more powerful machines, and the ps2 version in its current is… rough. Not to mention shadow on ps2 being a completly unplayable mess, speaking from experince.
playin on the ps2 when i was younger i didnt realise how it was the worst one till i played the gcn version on dolphin and im in love
0S2 IS BETTER GAMECUBE IS SHIT
Esse game foi todo pensado e programado primeiro para o hardware do gamecube o Xbox por mais q seja um hardware melhor e se destaca nas texturas ainda perde no quesito efeito de agua e luz, ps2 e xbox são portes da versão do cube nem a do pc tem o efeito de agua tão bacana
GameCube xbox & pc are good versions, PS2 is the only who have those simple circle shadows instead of having the character shilouette
1:34 was this jitter due to video recording or did the Xbox drop frames?
Interesting. I haven't noticed it. I have to go back and check.
Grew up with the gc version, and I notice the xbox version seems to drop frames where the gc version doesnt. This can be seen in the first stage, iirc it happens on your way to the first set of cannons. A little bit before the palace rises from the ocean.
I just think the gamecube version is the best from graphics to controls or maybe its just a personal take idk
Love this video thank you! Seems like Xbox takes gold, Gamecube is silver and PS2 is bronze, which is a tough pill to swallow because even though now I own all three in the last 3 years. The ps2 was my childhood and the first console I bought with my own money. What settings did you use on the retrotink for each console?
Are you using emulator ? The resolution is clearly higher than original consoles
I can see there are several graphical issues with the Xbox footage. Are you running these in emulators?
I have the PS2 and GC versions. I prefer the sharp unfiltered look of the PS2 version. The GC versions has better framerates. I orignally had the GC version first because with the end of sega in hardware I felt that Sonic was better placed on the GC. Xbox also applys an ugly filter to it's games like the GC, so I doubt i'd like that one anymore than the GC version.
Does the xbox filter the image when ran in 480p? I know if it's 480i, the flicker filter can be turned off in your modded dashboard.
@@robbyjvc I just use 1080p on my Xbox 360
Xbox has the best CGI looks
Obviously the ps2 version is the loser. I think the difference between gamecube and xbox is negligable, and an argument could be made for either.
I would play the Nintendo GameCube version of Sonic Heroes.
4:56 Gamecube, no competition. It was designed on it to begin with. Then SONY got mad since SEGA didnt plan on a Playstation port, so they were kinda forced to port a bad version of Sonic Heroes on PS2, if not then they couldnt make Sonic games on Playstation in the future or something
But EVERYONE wanted a PS2 back in 2000 smh.... once again like every other multiplatform game the PS2 suffers in the visuals dept with Xbox being number one in graphics due to raw power......all in all im very glad i gotta Gamecube that generation, good times
I definitely think my biased to the Xbox version may play a factor in my views here, but it's clear that Xbox or Gamecube (the former likely being used backwards compatible style on the 360 for the better hardware) would be the best picks here. Everything just has more fidelity, it's more stable, and runs smoother than the PS2 version. Overall, Xbox or Gamecube would be the versions here.
I have to wonder if the PS2 version intentionally had the least time put into optimization, since PS2 is what effectively killed the Dreamcast
So fun fact; the game wasn't even supposed to be made for the PS2. The original plan was to make it Xbox and GameCube exclusive, but Sony (as they did to everyone that gen) strong armed SEGA into making a PS2 port otherwise they wouldn't let them release another game on the platform. Which was a big deal as the PS2 was and continued to outsell the other two platforms by a large margin, and they couldn't risk that kind of install base.
So the game had to hastily be ported to PS2, manpower was taken from the other versions, the development became a mess, and it got to a point where QA testing basically said that if the bug wasn't stopping you from beating the game, just don't report it.
It's worth noting that SEGA was well aware of just how weak the PS2 was and actually tried porting the Sonic Adventure games to the system, but the PS2 just didn't play nice with the engines those games ran on.
@@joshuashaw6105 With that situation I'm surprised the game wasn't buggier
SEGA killed SEGA hardware, not the PS2.
Nintendo fell just as hard as SEGA, but they didn't have the internal conflict of "America wants to be different" and a 32X to compete with their Nintendo 64 like SEGA did.
You truly spoke it like someone who wasn't there.
Although the water is better and the load times are faster on the xbox version, I’d still choose the gamecube version because the controller works well for it. Ps2 version sadly is much worse.
Xbox y GameCube son lo mejores
Pc version is the best because of mod support it runs in 720p and 4k with wide-screen with mods
If i play sonic
I will use xbox and nintendo
The only reason I prefer the GameCube version over the Xbox is that here in Australia you can play the GC version in 60hz whereas the Xbox version you are stuck at 50hz but aside from that the GC and Xbox really are neck and neck for me. PS2 version sucks balls
Too bad then that the 60 Hz setting in the PAL GC version is all wack since it's actually just the 50 Hz setting sped up... a bit too much... with its timing being actually faster than the intended NTSC speed. Also, get this. Apparently, the 50 Hz setting on the PAL PS2 version runs FASTER than the 60 Hz setting. I'm not joking.
Also, is there really no way to set the PAL Xbox console to 60 Hz? Not even a hidden feature like holding the B button during the console boot up sequence which Gamecube has?
@@ScatterbrainPete There is, but Australia got shafted even hard than other PAL regions sometimes.
My UK PAL versions are fine, but I've got a mate over in Sydney who has the AU PAL version which runs noticeably... different in comparison.
The ps2 version doesn’t look as smooth frame rate wise and has more jagged lines
GameCube wins
Idk about Xbox
And PS2 is my least favorite and I just don’t like this port
I think the real winners are the people who didn't subject themselves to this monstrosity, regardless of platform.
why ? Sonic heroes is a great game
Ps2 is disgusting, GameCube and Xbox are perfect
GameCube version being more optimized than the Xbox version it can hold the 60 FPS better than the Xbox version? Damn lazy optimization despite some cool effects and Xbox being more powerful. Maybe if the game was compatible on Xbox Series X/S then it would've take over the GameCube version's throne and making it the best version of it on home consoles and iron out the FPS drops.
It works on 360 and gets rid of slowdown, only issue are the choppy CG cutscenes
xbox looks best but has some awkward slowdown
GC > Xbox >>>>>>>>>>PS2
Ps2 is better
@@Switchwall worse*
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XBOX and GameCube are almost on par. Playstation 2 lags, literally and figuratively, behind, as usual. Let's face it, PS2 was shit. People only jumped on it because of brand recognition and it being a cheap DVD player.
Yeah honestly, It had some good exclusives but if a game is ever ported to all 3 systems the PS2 version is almost consistently the worst one
@@ratking9577 I can't help but try to imagine what a GameCube version of Kingdom Hearts 2 and FF X would have looked like
@@ratking9577 Why don't you run it on Progressive Scan
PS2 is worth owning for its exclusives but yeah... otherwise you're far better off with Xbox or Gamecube even
@@SantiagoMonroy5 Back then, each console had a lot of exclusives, unlike nowadays when there's like 5 on PS, 20 on Nintendo and 2 on XBOX with the rest of the catalog being the same thing
The ps2 looks a lot worse then the gamecube and x box also the ps2 runs with half the frame rate, has worse shadows, texture and models.
PS2 IS BETTER GA,ECUBE SUCK
PS2 IS BETTER GAMECUBE LOSTED GAMECUBE FANS DONT @ ME PS2 IS LIFE GAMECUBE SUCK
bro is a sony fanboy 💀
nice bait, sony pony lol
wtf
UGH THE PS2 AND GAMECUBE IS THE WORST XBOX IS BETTER