The HALO Ring? - Star Trek: Lower Decks Season 4 Episode 3 - Review
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- Another week, another episode of Star Trek: Lower Decks. The season’s now in full swing, and we’re on episode three. This week’s episode is Lower Decks “In the Cradle of Vexilon” and comes to us from writer Ben Waller. After a strong and intriguing premiere, I want to see where the series goes. There’s a lot going on this season. The characters have been promoted; there’s a ship on the loose, and that’s just the beginning. It’s going to be quite the season!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Season 4 Episode 3
01:00 - Bradward Boimler
02:11 - World-building
03:43 - Vexilon
04:16 - The B-Plot?
05:10 - Thoughts
Video Credits:
Written by Dom Paris
Presented by @CaptainJack
Edited by Troy Courtney-Hart
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Title: The HALO Ring? - Star Trek: Lower Decks Season 4 Episode 3 - Review
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I believe they're technically called "Niven rings".
The Ringworld is unstable!
@@doxielain2231 I think it's hilarious that the engineering problems that fans spotted in the original novel are one of the reasons Niven wrote a sequel.
judging by the scale and the fact it has the lights around the outer rim, its taken more inspiration from a halo rather than a niven ringworld
Aren't halos significantly smaller. Aren't they just orbiting structures? While a niven ring has a 2 au diameter.
when you use a smaller star you do not need 2AU. A red dwarf can be 10% of our suns mass => diameter alot smaller. In case here the sun seemed something artificial
The ringworld was 1 au around...as it was said that it orbits around the same distance from its sun as earth does from sol
It's not a HALO RING, It's a Larry Niven-style RINGWORLD. The fact that the freaking KZINTI ENSIGN was heavily featured was a dead giveaway. Learn your classic science fiction people!!!
it's a science fiction cartoon it's not that serious dude chill out and get a life. smh
I agree. It's more likely a reference to Ringworld.
Well okay, but tbf, Halo Rings is more iconic for today's audiences.
Personally, I think Culture orbitals are better than Niven's rings. And Vexilon seems to be more like the Minds,... except that he needed some help with the systems update, unlike the Minds.
I was thinking Ringworld, also...
I know, right? When these you tubers propose themselves as fonts of knowledge and then screw things up, I immediately quit the video. Too many of them are ignorant and clueless yet spout their drivel like it is nuggets of wisdom.
It's more likely a reference to Ringworld. Larry Niven came up with the Kzinti who are featured in Ringworld, Star Trek the Animated Series & Lower Decks. There is even a Kzinti ensign on this episode.
Halo does have a ring but it's smaller.
Also the excellent sci-fi writer Iain M. Banks had rings in his sci-fi novels.
They had the same thing in Star Wars Book of Boba Fett and everyone kept calling it a HALO ring too. At least Trek Culture got it right in their review.
From the looks of it... this is both a nod to Niven (with the Kzinti) and Banks (lthis ring seems small like an orbital and it features a benevolent AI).
Sure, the concept of a Ring World has existed in Sci-Fi for decades, but Halo is the more wider known and been more consistent in pop culture over the last 20+ years. So most people would see something like this and on Book of Boba Fett and think Halo.
That also looks like a Stargate from the later series when the ori arrived via a space version the way it turns and has the squares around it 🤔
Yeah. It reminds me of a Supergate.
The ring world concept was created by Larry Niven in 1970, which coincidently, had Kzinti in it! Halo just cribbed everything from him. And Dyson never postulated a ring because as he said " "A solid shell or ring surrounding a star is mechanically impossible." so people have misattributed the sphere and ring concept to him. He had more of a shell that wasn't contiguous.
So yeah, not a Halo ring it's a Ringworld.
Exactly. The fact that the Kzinti ensign was heavily featured was no coincidence.
Also dat Twin Peaks homage had me screaming.
Stop ruining it please...just enjoy it....thank you...
@@tjzambonischwartz Yes! That was fun! And they are incorporating their own lore and inside jokes which is great!
Yo, i love Halo Rings! sick that it was conceived 50 years ago! I assumed earlier !
Amyone know why ST lore (or atleast Memory Alpha wiki) labeled them as Dyson rings?
There's one other sci fi (well webcomic) writer, Howard Taylor (Schlock Mercenary) that deals with lots of megastructure concept. One of the elder races in his setting has sphere habitat around a star, but it is actually less of solid sphere, but more like a balloon which is connected with multiple stations inside of it, sort of a more plausible dyson swarm concepr with contigous "sail like "material surrounding it. He doesn't feature rings in it but there are lots of other megastructure in his setting, like Jupiter sized vessels, a megasized Oneill cylinder with megastorms in it (because the AI was lonely and wants to force natural evolution), Matrioshka brain worlds, spinning orbital cities etc.
hey captain..love your videos..just am fyi..trek had a dyson ring in a novel way before halo had theirs..cheers and peace.. rocky
I was rewatching the previous seasons, with the deaths (Boimler drowning, with the Mind reading orbs, the commander died, (to name a few) they both mentioned the Koala. interesting that we finally saw it
We also saw it in Season One when an ensign 'ascended'. I love the running gags in Lower Decks!
Captain Jack, I was just wondering if you were a member of Star Fleet International ? This is an old video. We're waiting for the Final Season Episode now. Lower Decks is a awesome show.
This is the second Larry Niven crossover. In the original animated series the kizinti showed up to menace Spock sulu and uhura
"Halo... it's finished."
"No, I think we're just getting started."
-- Cortana and John-117
Niven, Halo...don't forget that Iain M Banks invented his (now refered to as the) Banks Orbital - or just "Orbital", as they are called in his novels - specifically as a scaled-down version of Niven's Ringworld. A Niven Ring encircles an entire Sun-like star (a yellow dwarf) and being at a distance of 1AU (98 milliom miles - Earrh's distance from the Sun) - it's like a partially completed Dyson Sphere, like you built the Sphere's equator, and then stopped.
Banks made his Orbitals much smaller (but they are still fairly large, many many times the surface area of the Earth) - Banks then put his Orbitals in orbit of the star, rotating to simulate 1G of gravity, and tilted slighty so that about half of the surface gets sunlight half the day and is dark the other half. (Another solution would be to just put an artiical star in the center of the Ring.)
Now rhe folks who worked at Bumgie admitted to being fans of Iain M. Banks "Culture" series (the novels where the Orbitals appear) and they took several elements of Bank's Culture universe - one of which is the Orbitals, which they seem to have reduced in size yet again.
Lower Decks is best when it follows its own path instead of paying homage to previous Trek
As someone who has read books for years its a bloody Niven Ring!
As someone who has played games for years, Still a HALO ring to me!
- Jack
@@TrekCentral yes
There will be a Crossover in a Live-Action between Halo and Star Trek
Yes I enjoyed the episode
It's not a Halo ring. It's a Ringworld. Please read Larry Niven's novel.
Aren’t halo rings based on the rings from Larry Niven’s novel ?
Thank you! I've seen so many people calling it a Halo Ring and it's soo not it's a Ring World.
Fun note Larry Niven also created the Kizinti and penned several episodes of the STAS
@@bazbloodwolfit doesn’t look exactly like a Halo ring anyway, the ring is too “thick”, but halo rings are based on ringworlds I think, thus the confusion.
@@EpsilonO17 yup! Saddly I think several people are missing the shoutout to Niven and his works and Star Trek (particularly animated Star Trek) connection and that makes me a little sad.
I loved the Ringworld books when I read them back when I was in middle school.
@@EpsilonO17 Halo rings are actually Culture Orbitals, not Niven Rings. In the Culture series, written by Ian M Banks, an Orbital is a ring structure built to the following dimentions- One rotation per "day" (for whatever value of day your species or project requires) generates centrifugal force of "One gravity" (for whatever value is appropriate to species or project)
It doesnt require the shadow squares or physics-breaking material properties of a Niven Ring, it's not unstable like a dyson sphere or niven ring, you can build a bunch of them, and you get "natural" sunrises and sunsets.
I really wonder what Hip Hop Music will be like in the world of Star Trek.🤔
FYI Larry Niven ring world books created rings long before halo
Did noone else spot the Twin Peaks reference??
Interesting that Captain Freeman had her sleeves rolled up like her daughter's... 😏
FWIW, the HALO ring does not surround its star. The Halo ring is closer to the Orbitals of Ian M Banks' Culture books, than this which is closer to the Ringworld of Larry Niven, both of which predate Halo.
Not gonna call anyone out for knowing about these, old sci fi books aren't everyones cup of tea, but if you love Halo, you will likely love books like Consider Phlebus, a kind of spy thriller partially set on an Orbital thats in the process of being destroyed, following an anti-hero main character who isn't specifically evil, but is definitely working for the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by its magesty?
“Blinded ?”
Paralyzed? Dumbstruck?
@@diegobroad2851 "No.."
@@EpsilonO17 Yet the humans were able to evade your ships, land on the sacred ring, and descrate it with their filty footsteps!
@@CaptainSovereign "Noble Hierarchs, surely you understand that once the parasite attack..."
Why is everyone so mad about the ring ? It’s a ringworld but Halo rings are too, it just made him think of them. There is no need to explain, over and over, that they are all based on the old novels of Larry Niven !…
But in that thumbnail it really looked like a halo ring…
Halo rings are actually Culture Orbitals, not Niven Rings. In the Culture series, written by Ian M Banks, an Orbital is a ring structure built to the following dimentions- One rotation per "day" (for whatever value of day your species or project requires) generates centrifugal force of "One gravity" (for whatever value is appropriate to species or project)
It doesnt require the shadow squares or physics-breaking material properties of a Niven Ring, it's not unstable like a dyson sphere or niven ring, you can build a bunch of them, and you get "natural" sunrises and sunsets.
Space gate SG-1
When are the Puppeteers going to show up?
TAS had a Puppeteer navigator.
Nomad was destroyed in TOS, it should be there.
Shouldn’t
Vexilon?
Boimler & Mariner's flaws and Tendi & Rutherford's are opposite of each other.
Halo did not invent the idea of the ring world. Jfc.
Halo isnt even a ringworld. It's a Culture Orbital.
It's just a weapon
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That's it. I'm done. No more crossovers for me.
Captain Jack, this type of ring predates Halo by at least 30 years. Larry Niven created it for his novel RINGWORLD.
SMH.
Still reminds me of a HALO ring? So nothing wrong with saying that is there.
- Jack
@@TrekCentral I never played HALO. The So, you have your frame of reference. I have mine
Nice reference to Halo.
Halo rings dont have a sun in the center. That is a niven ring. Larry Niven also wrote an episode of the star trek animated series.
The word Halo already implies a ring. So, it's just a Halo.
All these people getting pissy over ringworld is really funny to me. Learn to lighten up, people!
its a dyson ring! the halo rings were in orbit of various planets, and not big enough to go around the entire planet. this ring is built around the star, therefor it is a dyson ring! sorry nerd alert
Urgh