Ivy League vs Community College: Which Education Is Better? | Middle Ground
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Good for Saul. No one is too old to pursue educations or their dreams
I commented this too, what a sweetie
Amen 🗣️
Saul pursued Paul in the Bible 🤷🏾♂️
When he said he was 85, I couldn’t believe it, because he looks so good for his age.
The flash Vroomvroom beyatch better call saul
That old man is 85? That’s crazy, I thought he was like 65
Yeah right, same I thought he or I flipped the numbers at first lol
I thought so too at first but he's definitely not bad looking for his age.
Daaammnn seriously didn't expect that
Kayla O. He looks incredible for 85! I’m sure his constant drive to progress in life regardless of his age is helpful in keeping his mind and body young!
Totally, he looks impeccable
No one asked but I graduated highschool in 2020 with a 2.0 gpa (3.0 on a 5.0 scale) and a low SAT so naturally I had no choice but to choose a community college. I attended a community for the first 2 years, had a straight 4.0 for both years, transfered over to a private D1 university and had scholarships which brought my yearly tuition down from $55K to $20K. I've had a straight 4.0 since I've transferred over and I'm planning on going to law school after I graduate in 2024. So far, I was accepted into Yale, Columbia, Duke and UChicago. Would I be able to do all of this without my community college? Absolutely not. It's a wonderful stepping stone and I don't think anyone should be ashamed of it.
Wow! Congratulations on your hard work! It sucks there’s a stigma for people in CC’s but they really help.
damn congrats!
you're truly an inspiration and you encourage me to not be ashamed of my GPA or sat because, in the end, it's my hard work that will pay off. i aspire to go to law school and your accomplishments drive me to focus on my college education, regardless of the institution or the prestige, and work hard towards my goal. i would love to connect with you and talk more about how you were able to accomplish so much.
@@andreamercado-cruz6229 your hardwork will pay off trust me! There's nothing more you can do besides giving your best and most importantly believing in yourself. Best of luck
It gives me hope, I'm so happy for you as well
Cory's attitude about Yale is less if an indivodual problem and is more of a symptom of how many people, at least in the United States, think their self worth and identity are tied to their job, education, and salary.
yours Matt, is truly one of the bet comments i have seen on CZcams.
Well as much as you try to deny it but of course your job and salary and education are tied to your character, which is why you find a lot of similarities between people who share one of them. For example, you tend to find people at harder universities more disciplined
says someone who didn't get into one of them...
@@passingforcoffee249 discipline has almost nothing to do with character... you can be "disciplined" and be a terrible person who only cares about themself and what they have to gain. There are so many rich people who view lower class citizens the same as animals. That's not exactly a positive character trait.
@@moca545 do you own the school? It's literally just a building. When it gets EVENTUALLY bulldozed, you'll just be bragging about a plot of land that once had a building on it. You need more love in your life. What school you went to doesn't mean much. It's the job you actually get that matters in the world.
don't let my asian parents find cassandra
Lmaooooooo
Yeah they would disown me for Cassandra lol
U DISHONAR FO THE FAMILI
I have DSS after watching this. Disappointed Senior Syndrome.
She has a youtube channel
There is no way Saul is 85, he looks 65
Thats what I'm thinkingg
I respect him
Hey Sunless, you watch Jubilee, I thought you played Rocket League. I’m subscribed
Lol, I thought it was the real Sunlesskahn
I actually had a class with him at SMC, he is such an amazing man. He inspires me everyday because he never gave up!!
The girls that felt bad or embarrassed for going to a community college should absolutely be proud of themselves for their efforts. Your worth starts with your self - and they are doing something very worthy.
Think Aidan was a guy
Totally agree
@@leguminous7564irrelevant his point still stands
@@nivekmendez6376 I never said it didn't, and my comment is directly relevant to the video.
@@leguminous7564 She's a girl. lmao
Congrats to Saul for graduating college at his age. He is an inspiration for anyone to never give up.
NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT?!
NEVER GIVE UP!@@tyco1176
@@tyco1176 Never give up...
Most colleges also govern senior me free tuition which is awesome. I’d go to classes forever it was free lol
Saul looks 65 because you age well when you’re not problematic.
When u looking thru comments and u find ur sister
@@JSPDOG1 lmao
This is amazing
@@JSPDOG1 your sister is gey
Jaspreet Parhar lol
"I did get into all 8 ivy league schools."
Damn, I can hardly do my homework on time.
Cherryblossom hello ExoL. Nice to see u here
Chanyeolll
*17
Romeo A. theres only 8 ivy leagues, the other 9 schools of the 17 were just universitys
ttrashytracy ontiktokpleasewatchmytiktoks ya they were probably prestigious though
I have an Ivy League degree, but later took some classes at my local community collage. The community college professors were top notch and the college played an active role in providing study groups, something more prestigious universities don’t do. The selling point of an Ivy League school is the prestige of having gotten accepted, not the quality of the education. The professors are rewarded for publishing, not for there skill as teachers.
I'm currently attending community college, I never felt like I was getting a substandard education or something... of course, I live in a major city and some of my professors would also lecture at nearby universities, so my experience may be different than someone in a rural part of the US. The only reason why there is still a stigma where I live just has to do with class. 🤷♀️
Yeah well that Ivy League degree didn’t help with spelling did it?
Just kidding I hate when people correct spelling. I most likely made a mistake typing this anyway.
I wondered. Thank you for commenting this!
yeah i think the ivy appeal is more the connections and opportunities you get out of it but that's very career-dependent
Imagine going to multiple colleges (never mind why you would go to an ivy and be successful, then randomly go to a CC) and never figuring out that the point was not to have the information dropped into your mouth like you're a baby bird.
I got accepted into UC Berkeley, Cornell, and Harvard. I went to UC Berkeley for since it was the most affordable of the three and had a great first year. Unfortunately, there was a family member that needed hospice care and my mom was overwhelmed. This was after a divorce that happened two years before. I left and went to community college. I was so angry at that time, not at my family but at the situation. But it was what I
needed to humble myself. I’m actually doing a lot better now, no debt, graduated, have two profession in two different fields and planning to go to med school.
You could have just asked Berkeley for a leave of absence and done the same thing at the CC before returning to Berkeley. These comments seem like a lot of people don't realize this.
Nice story lol how long did it take to craft this one?
When did you attend cuz I know Berkeley is very generous with aid and would allow a leave of absence
Berkeley isnt that different from ivy league in how pretentious it is and how competitive it is - so you saved yourself lol
@@Mina-np5pl it's school, not a job. There is no LOA for class. If you have to leave, there is a waiver.
When the Asian girl that got into all Ivy League schools says the college admissions system is messed up, you know it is
"wElL sHe wOrkEd vEry hArd blAh bLah blAH"
RoyisDaBEST u probably are working for minimum pay lol
@@khaikhai4982 I'm asian and 13 lmao
@@royisdabest what type, also 1st or after 1st Gen
Obviously she worked really hard it’s not like she got in for doing absolutely nothing but there are some advantages to certain people
SAUL IS 85????? MANS LOOKING 60/70 GOOD FOR YOU
His voice is still very strong as well
Fax hes got enough hair to pass for 60s
I was shocked by that too 🤔 he looks great
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
native don't crack
I went to community college, graduated with no debt, and today, out earn 99% of my peers - even those who went to ivy league schools. Ivy league schools are more about the networking potential than the education. It's also quite dangerous for these kids to base so much of their self worth on where they went to school. I'd like to see a follow up when they are in their 50s.
Exactly. I am a nurse with a community college degree. I make six figures a year. It's not always where you got it your education, but what education you got!!
@@mizbootsie8175 six figures??? danggggg what how
@@trivial1344 - Not difficult. Don't misunderstand me, you may be at work , more than home. But you can make it. If you work in higher paying states and share housing, even more so.
Certain trade professions, such as plumbing, electrical, truck driving...certificates or 2 year education at the most.
@@mizbootsie8175 people love to shxt on America but one thing they do right is paying the workers right. In my country my aunt who's a nurse gets paid $300/month, really outrageous.
@@delightk - They do that in general. You can really come here with nothing and achieve something. Live better. If you asked who came here to seek a better or more free life, they would agree. NOT perfect, but better.
some of the things cory says do raise red flags but y’all gotta cut him some slack- y’all are literally hating on him for being proud of making it to yale. he’s said that yale was his goal all his life and as a first gen asian american kid his parents hv put expectations and emphasis on education so he probably feels extremely satisfied with himself knowing he’s made his parents and himself proud. the only thing i’m worried about is after he graduates yale he might just lose his way and be a little confused on what he does after that since he alr made it to yale, his goal
It's the privelege of having parents who push you for me. ❤
agree
No I think it’s because he said “I am competing with the best people”
@@natashakobelsky6899 just a lil slip of words , he's competing with the most competitive people
@@gsiya4023 that's not a slip
When the old man said “but you’re the one who got into Yale, it came from here, from you. Yale didn’t put that into you.”
That was an amazing statment~
It just PROVES that EXPERIENCE and PERSPECTIVE are two different things, but yeah so true.
*snaps fingers*
The young man may walk faster, but the old man knows the way.
Janna Aguinaldo yea what he said touched me
is no one gonna talk about how that girl got into all 8 ivy leagues
Preston Pener what an intelligent person who also came across pretty sweet too.
omg ikr! she seems to be a very humble and sweet person, i hope everything goes well for her in the future💗
Im glad she did. She seems nice, and very deserving of that.
That's insane. You could have an amazing application and basically be a champion at everything you do in life but even that may not be enough; there is still luck involved into the process.
IKR
Saul is so wise and well spoken. I love the line “it came from within you, Yale didn’t put that there.” He really wants to make sure they all knew that you are you because of you and not because of a building. I want to go read his books now
The college education system in America is unfair because your mistakes follow you like a criminal record. I get academic dishonesty or plagiarism, but not getting a bad grade in a class. It makes going back to school extremely difficult, expensive, and can automatically disqualify you from so many opportunities just because of mistakes you made when you were a teenager.
To be fair, plagiarism is like THE thing you aren't supposed to do in academia. It's basically fraud. You are attempting to gain an edge over other people who you are competing against in school, and by extension the job market, by blatantly lying about your capabilities through theft of another person's work. That's the cardinal sin. That's the one thing that everybody tells you not to do a million times before you ever get your first college assignment and a million more times afterward.
Absolutely. I find it quite ridiculous that these decisions are made when we’re literal children, and yet, they carry on to negatively affect our lives
@@queenv22 Teachers who literally plagirize there assignments, ideas, materials, tests, quizzes etc fromhead to toe👁👁👄👁
You have so many options though. You can drop the class, make it pass/fail, retake it to show you improved. And some college students are teens sure, but they’re also adults, maybe 5 years from getting a full time job. Jobs won’t hold your hand through big time mistakes.
@@leguminous7564 I think they’re also talking about hs classes, cause those follow you for years. Colleges and Universities will look at you hs grades and they can choose not to except you if you failed a class. With hs you can’t just drop the course and retake it another year either. You can obviously retake the course but you’ll still have the previous grade on you transcript. But I do agree that’s jobs won’t hold your hands through mistakes but a lot of times they will give multiple chances. Where as colleges and universities can be way more “picky” in a sense.
“My parents pay for my college tuition.”
Saul walks up.
How old-
this deserves top comment
Then he said 1952 and I was like ooooooh makes sense
um he was 17
@@looow UM she was saying her first impression, before Saul explained
I thought that too, 🤣
When Saul said "it came from here, in you, yale didn't put that into you" actually touched me
lowkey needed that ngl
Vangster me too ! Like wow the students made YALE !
Cory didn't get it though.
What’s ngl
@@twentyfivetolife7976 not gonna lie
FIREE
As someone who went to community college and then transferred to a private 4 year, it’s not the school that makes you, it’s your brain capacity. I could tell anyone I went to any Ivy League and they would believe me. There is only a stigma associated with CC’s if you internalize it. The education you get is what you make of it no matter where you go.
did you credits transfer? I was thinking about doing that but Im scared they might not transfer.
@@kookiesandtae4357 my credits all transferred because I chose classes that my 4 year would accept. Most CC’s have transfer pathways set up to 4 year colleges so they make it easy for you to make the transition.
when the CC students talked about how embarrassed they are about their school, the fact that the ivy league students tried comforting them into changing their mindset rather than acknowledging/criticizing that they had to be embarrassed in the first place proves a point for me. don’t get me wrong it was a great discussion and the ivy league students were beyond nice and compassionate it’s just really difficult to say that these two have the same playing field in their lives
this comment! the ivy students felt the need to assure them as if their assurance was necessary validation for the cc students to feel okay about their decision to attend cc. the ivy students were compassionate but condescending and not very understanding of the cc students situations.
this exactly
@@renoseiji The ivy league students weren't being condescending. I feel like you didn't listen to the entirety of what they said, but only the part where that one girl said "you're really well spoken" etc. But, she was saying that in order to follow up with her actual point - she was using the community college student's positive attributes to show that the stigma is incorrect. She basically said, "you're really smart, and that's why you and community college students who value their time at their schools shouldnt listen to the stigma". This does not sound like an assurance at all to me. I only have an issue with the point about a stigma against ivy league students, because it is not as significant and really doesn't do as much damage to people as a stigma against community college students does.
@@renoseiji stop projecting
Because they’re on camera, if they did care they wouldn’t have gone to an Ivy League
my jaw dropped when Cassandra said she got accepted into all 8 Ivy League schools
Lucy Link shes pretty and extremely smart
She’s thriving😅😅
I'm confused because there are 12.
@@jordanleighwheatley There are only 8 Ivies. But there are other schools that people see as equivalent like Stanford, Duke, and MIT. The Ivy League is just an athletic conference
@@loveu4life100 I found some other lists online. One was 12, one was 10, one was 8. So I'm confused
These students afterwards when they run into life problems:
Better call Saul
Gabe Smith yes
Gabe Smith this comment is so underrated
better call saul reference?
And it rhymes!!!!!!!!!!
best comment award
I had the grades to go to a 4 year university but decided to start at community college because it was cheaper, closer to home, and classes were much smaller therefore giving me more confidence to ask questions when needed. Fast forward and I'm currently awaiting my application status to my dream university. Community college is honestly underrated
yes I think so too!! if you do a transfer degree there's no time wasted, and you'll spend your first 2 years in a more affordable and comfortable environment. I never got the hype around prestigious universities.
They should do an episode how far these people are in life after 5, 10, 20 years
Very insightful idea
Saul may have to be there in spirit
@@isaac_6530 LMAO foul
@@isaac_6530 "He's a bit confused, but he's got the spirit"
ok but like actually imagine getting into all eight ivy-leagues like what? like kudos to her. that’s incredible
That just sounds like debt
If you get it into one, it's going to be easy to get into all, they all look for similar things and have roughly the same requirements.
@@user-cf6dn5tg4f not if you get a scholarship
I need to know what she did cause I could use some tips😂
@@berdyne just gonna put myself right here so I can get a notification if she does give out tips in the comments
"You're the one that got into Yale, It came from here and You, Yale didn't put that in you" - Speak your Wisdom Saul
and there's a community of people at Yale that influence him during his formative years. he doesn't exist in a vacuum in Yale. Saul is basically a pseudo-intellectual.
@@thadiussean9133 So are you...
Thadius Sean it has been proven that people who get accepted into ivy league but don’t attend end up being just as successful later in life as people who graduated from these colleges
@@akutenshi6946 well theres not too much proof about that. I mean, Who would not attend an Ivy leage if they were admitted? Bill and Mark are not examples since they attend. They drop just because they had veeeery promising projects. And the fact that they were Harvard students gave them cache in many diferent ways to reach that projects.
Generic wisdom. And yeah a pseudo-intellect is a perfect way of explaining that.
I’m a community college student, and I can tell you no matter what college you go to life is not easy. That last question really hit me, and yes, you DO need to know someone to get somewhere you want to be. I’ve had different job interviews that wouldn’t give me a chance. The two jobs I did get, one seasonal and the one I’m working now, let me work for them because I knew someone in the company. Same at my college, my mom knows someone in the school counseling office and I was able to get the help I needed. And no matter what school you go too, you are NEVER guaranteed a job after school
I love SAULLLLLLLLL!!!! There’s real WISDOM from all that experience. It’s super sad that anyone finds their identity by their college and feels a sense of superiority, plus all these Ivy’s seem to be getting a free ride. YAY for the community college students who will have less debt!
My heart instantly melted when Saul said “I’m Saul and I graduated recently from Santa Monica Community College”
Andy Sul What are some of the pieces that he has written I would like to read some
@Andy Sul Andy Sul? You were never in Creative Writing... Quit lying
Same bless him!
Wait why lol
Emma Carstairs cuz he’s inspirational asf look how old he is and still going for his education 🥺
It's insane that Saul is 85 years old; he looks about 20 years younger than that
I was going to say the same thing. Not only that, but mentally he seems to be doing really well. All the 85-year-olds I know, which I suppose isn't many..they have all slowed down significantly. If you had asked me how old Saul was I would have said late 50s, early 60s.
Drew Castronovo he goes to community college at 85 years old?
I think cause he's happy
good for him getting an education
Fr
community college student here! I went to a state university for a year and did HORRIBLY (I had personal things going on and it was the 2020-2021 school year, so needless to say things were challenging). I took a year off before deciding to go back to school. my governor offered free community college to all state residents who graduate/graduated high school in 2020-2023, so it seemed like a no-brainer. I didn't end up qualifying for that scholarship because I got too much aid money (as in full-ride, plus almost $1000 surplus) (and I'm not complaining, I'm so grateful because I could not have afforded to go otherwise). I have to say that I have found so many resources and forms of support within my school that I never saw when I went to a university. I have also found that the only stigma I've faced when sharing that I go to a community college comes from myself. I used to be so embarrassed that I wasn't going to a "real" school. but you know what? my degree will be just as "real" as one a person who went to an ivy league will earn. I'm proud to go to a community college, and I'll gladly tell anybody who asks.
Loved reading this❤ Thank you for sharing
what 2 yr u going 4?
I'm a senior HS while doing cert on Health Support Services in tradeschool and will graduate this year. Tight on money to pay for tuition and was thinking of going to community college because apparently, the tuition from university made me gulp and think of my life choices.
I’ve never experienced shame with community college. It was such a great stepping stone and so affordable. One semester at the university I transferred to after my AA was more than my total associates. I’m proud of the choice I made because it allowed me to make better financial decisions. I loved community college and if you’re not sure what you want to yet, it’s a great way to have time to decided by taking affordable courses that can transfer to something else.
Saul saying, “Yale didn’t put that into you” wow! He’s so wise and kind. That young man def needed to hear that
i felt like the other dude was kinda bragging about it
Elsie Wilson fair. And tbh it is something to brag about and be proud of, but I personally wouldn’t mention such thing around people who tried to get it but couldn’t I’d feel bad about it
So many people needed to hear that
I understand that, but also do you think that he would have worked as hard as he did if he didn't have the goal of Yale in mind? So in a sense, didn't Yale instill a sense of whatever it was that got him in?
@@ishaujiang9332 I have a friend who was clueless, he just followed his parents' instruction and went to Harvard. "I just did what my parents told me." And then, it's Harvard that shaped him into the person he is now. He got the motivation, he changed the way of thinking, his attitude.... I agreed with what Saul said but the 'environment' does affect people too. If you are working in a place where all the ppl are punctual, doesn't it encourage you to be a 'punctual' person at work as well?
Asian dude comes from a good place but doesn’t understand the struggle.
Yup.. exactly my thoughts... He lives in a bubble
Good for him
Yeh but he’s still very young relatively, a lot of college students are
Winterhascome and the facts that he will be like “oh yeah I relate to that you”
Winterhascome just wondering but can I ask how? I don’t really see it. He said he’s a first gen american & he obviously worked hard for where he is? just wanted to know how y’all came to that conclusion
During my National Honor Society ceremony, my high school randomly announced only one student's college decision and that was the one student who got into Harvard in my school. They didn't bother to announce the fact that so many other students there were doing something with their lives after high school whether that be college or work or something else. Everyone stood up and clapped for him and I felt invisible. I had the same GPA as this kid, more extracurricular commitments, and more involvement in the school community (and I know plenty of kids in the national honor society who also did a lot more during their time in high school) but none of us got celebrated. I'm going to the city college of New York and for some reason despite how amazing the morals of the school are (with having been the first free college attended by immigrants and poor minorities in NYC with the only main focus of the admissions process being on the merit of these students), ivy league students still get the spotlight over everyone else.
I was also in National Honor Society, one student got called out for going to Berkley (everyone else neglected). I was ranked in the middle of my class and nobody ever heard of my university. 1 Associate's Degree, 2 Bachelor Degrees, and almost a Master's Degree later, I forgot who that kid was. I've always embraced the sleeper status and I encourage others to do the same as well. Underdogs always prevail. I'm rooting for you!
After I graduated high school I was super psyched to go to the school of my dreams but then I lost all my financial aid to finance my way so I decided to go to community college. I can honestly say that, though I was soul crushed, I am so glad I decided not to bury myself in debt from my undergrad years! It was the best choice I could’ve made. I’ve met quite a few amazing professors at community college who are passionate about their areas of expertise and it was truly a treasure. I transferred to USC and received a full ride! It’s a complete different experience but nevertheless I am enjoying my time here regardless. You can get anywhere you set your mind too as long as you put in the effort and have amazing support systems!
I’m so proud of you! Do you have any tips on getting a full ride scholarship, I’m going the same route
@@luckyduck_. Well for USC in particular, I recommend that if you come from a low income household you should apply for FAFSA and submit your CSS Profile for USC. They give you A LOT of financial aid if you qualify under FAFSA. I’m not sure exactly what the conditions are but I’d recommend speaking with a CPA or someone who knows the inner workings of these things to see your options otherwise. If you do happen to go down the FAFSA + CSS profile route USC will ask you for a lot of documents regarding your income (or your parent’s income if they claim you as a dependent), expenses, relationships, etc. it can get tedious but I promise you the end goal is so so so worth it. I got a total of about 75k in financial aid per year. I even lost some at the last minute as well, but that didn’t matter because USC gave me 10k extra to make up for the aid I lost.
I can’t speak for all schools but speaking from experience, private institutions have huge endowments which means more financial aid especially for low income families. For instance, while weighing my options of whether to go to UCLA or USC I went to USC because they gave me more money. However, every school operates differently, and the documents they request will be slightly different so I highly suggest doing more research if you are looking into a different school other than USC.
Most of how I got a full ride was because I was claimed as a dependent from a low income household so I’m not sure what advice I could give if you aren’t in the same financial position as me. Regardless, I really wish you well, and hope you get into the school of your dreams!
Cory tried so hard to be deep and failed miserably at understanding non ivy-leaguers perspective.
SiincerelyCrystal
The same goes for most people in this comment section
This is what can happen when you go to an elite university you end up becoming an elitist as a person
It’s because he went to Yale 🤷🏾♀️😂
@YoshiPeach Mario 🤡🤡
YoshiPeach Mario but he’ll still graduate a virgin
anyone else agree that Saul is really respectful and must be protected?😂
He's a great guy, would definitely like to drink with him.
WE👏🏾STAN👏🏾SAUL👏🏾IN👏🏾THIS👏🏾HOUSEHOLD👏🏾
Agree but he can protect himself 😁
he’s the stan lee of community college
He’s our senpai
I think it would be cool to have people well out of college talk about how much college affected their career paths(community vs Ivy).
I love this channel, and the idea that we can still have an open conversation about anything, without being "cancelled" or thinking that's its taboo.. keep up all the great work u guys and gals do, it's amazing and it's very much appreciated!! cheers
Saul is precious, Cory needs to do soul search. Yale is not a personality trait.
Sol Ibarra for a lot of people it is.
It's cuz he's Asian...it's okay I did some research and they may go to yale but they end up having dysfunctional issues later anyways ...I have a Chinese friend who told me that Asians have look good among society and their Asian peeps cuz its a culture thing, even if it's self destructive...she has a cousin that is always on the Edge with money even though they drive nice BMW's and fancy cars/house, and I'm like why don't they down grade to make it easier on themselves, my Asian friend said that they rather be miserable in secret but look good, than to seem poor and happy...I'm like dam you Asians are no different than any other fucked up culture with common family affairs and expectations lol
They’re literarily asking about his university so he says his university. Where’s the problem?
He literally said he's trying to find himself and identify as more than just a Yale student. But ok.
++
“You are what you do, not necessarily what you attend.” - Saul
Mara Flores Imagine a sailor in the Navy. Being in the Navy says a lot about that man. He is courageous, a risk-taker, and among other traits, he also has a willingness to serve and defend the country that he loves. What does he do? He serves his country. What does he attend? The Navy. The statement you just quoted is one of the most counterintuitive, contradictory, and redundant statements I have ever heard in my lifetime.
Now, would you say attending an Ivy League school says a lot about who you are? You might think that an Ivy Leaguer is privileged, wealthy, extremely bright, and has good connections. All of those things have a say in that Ivy Leaguer’s personality; it is not a bad thing to admit, and not everyone who shares those traits have the same personality, there are serval more traits that shape up that Ivy Leaguer. However, they attend an Ivy League school. They attend a school that they worked their entire lives to go to. They do what they attend. Even if you don’t accomplish something, you are defined by that and your potential to improve.
Bryan Gonzalez I'm an Airmen and I agree.
@@bryanmgonzalez Counter-intuitive, sure. Contradictory, absolutely not. Some people become police officers because they're sadists and enjoy shooting a gun. Some people sign up to be nurses and then verbally, and in worse cases physically mistreat their patients. Some teachers act like they love to educate the future generation but are secretly sexual predators. They got the credentials, they've completed "attending" their institutions, but they do misdeeds. And ultimately you are accountable for what you do. Even if it's an accident, even if some negative life event damaged you in some way, what you do (or don't do) defines who you are and who you've become.
He didn't say you're NEVER what you attend; he said you're not *necessarily* what you attend. Meaning that sure, there are benchmarks that can reasonably justify a certain personal brand or trait. But they don't NEED to define you, and how you define yourself is up to you, no matter how anyone else perceives you. And that's the point.
I agree, you can be a Harvard graduate and yet not make a positive impact on the world
Attending Harvard is something that you do
I went to a community College my first 2 years then transferred to a four year college. When I told some people that I first went to a community College, I could tell that they thought less of me for it. But I honestly enjoyed community College much more. I felt like I learned a lot more from my professors there.
I did the 2 and 2 as well and now I go to school out of state and I certainly miss the atmosphere of community college better. I don’t really have any friends at school like I did back home but I got a boyfriend out of it so in a way it worked out IG😅
I completely agree. The professors at community college have taught me more than my university has.
I'd like to see one about college drop outs vs college graduates. I went to a community college then transferred to a university and was so burned out and anxious when covid happened that I ended up not going back. I'm happy that it happened though because I was my identity was super attached to being in school (without really knowing what I was doing in life).
Emily is working three jobs, plays soccer AND goes to Princeton... mad respect... mad respect
Shirley Tatha that’s is definitely respectful but on campus jobs don’t offer many hours to students. My state doesn’t allow its university students to work over 25 hours a week due to not wanting to give benefits but I’m not sure if the Ivy League system is different.
Ivy League schools have grade inflation and easier characters
SHE IS LIVING MY DREAM LIFE @ AGE 16 -BIG pP FOR pRINCETON...IMPOSSIBLE TO GET INTO -I AM MORE THAN WORTHY OF ucla# OLIVIA JADE -OHH THANK YOU FOR COVERING THESE NEFARIOUS DEALSNAME AND SHAME OLIVIA JADE SCANDAL HAPPENED AFTER ....NAME AND SHAME OLIVIA JADE!!
If she got in for soccer, does that mean that she wouldn't have gotten in based on her smarts? If the school is only for the brightest, does she struggle academically? (I assume she's fine, she sounds articulate. But it just goes to show that the Ivies are only for the smart people.)
@@Sbeth85 It's not just about your grades and intellect for Ivy schools anymore. There are millions of people with As in their AP classes that don't get into these schools because Ivy wants a person who does sports, has good grades, plays an instrument and has done a decent amount of volunteering and charity work. The standards are insane from what I've heard.
“Schools don’t define us, what matters is what we accomplish in life” Saul is a wise man
getting into Yale is an accomplishment though
That's so so so so absolutely true and an astute statement coming from old man Saul 👍👍😎
@@tima8725 That was his point though. That's what his point to Cory was. Yale didn't do any of that, he did. He's the one who got himself into Yale.
Heckkkkkkk yesss. I feel like most people in IVY feel it defines them because they get a lot of attention when they surrounded by other people
Yes! It doesn't matter where you start, it matters where you end up
What Cory said is true though. The fees are high because you're paying for the school brand and the opportunities that comes with it.
"Yale built my character" holy moly cannoli ravioli that's depressing
I feel like the 85 year old college graduate was a lot more wiser than the guy from yale
You dont say?
@@nestorv7627 lol
God help us.
Of course. Higher education doesn’t bring wisdom; experience does
wisdom and intelligence are two different things imo
Why is no one talking about how sweet Emily seemed? Like pretty grounded for being a Princeton kid.
And she’s working three jobs, on the soccer team, and going to class?! Dang.
ikr!
Life is hard for the working class 😓
Plastic Tree for sure :/ gonna be me in college hehe
Football*
I'd bet she wouldn't have to work 3 jobs if she didn't go to Princeton, but that's non of my business
I'm in community college and it's really cool to see older adults there and hearing their stories of going back to school!
16:45 he says “we don’t think we’re better than everyone else” the proceeds to say “we are competing against the BEST” when referring to ivy leagues
Perhaps he meant it in more general terms. I.e. (In a non-academic sense, they have no grounds to assume that we’re stronger/inherently better than other people).
But even with academia, there’s an *undeniable element of pot luck* that comes with applying to highly-selective universities. Whether it be *legacy admissions* in which which view the children of former *alumni* more favourably during selection processes. Or even the arbitrary mood/biases of *interviewers* which strove beyond our control. Considering the above, it’s not right to assume that acceptance into these universities is completely one’s own doing. We’re all indebted to arbitrary factors to some extent, and the pupils accepted into these universities certainly are too.
Saul looks so young for 85! I swear he doesn’t look a day over 58!
He looks late 60s-70s to me
yeah he looks a lot better than my grandmas husband whos like, 64 i think?
Julia's World more like 65
What type of 58 year old do you know 🤣...
He looks younger than his age, but I wouldn't say he looks 60 😅 60 year old aren't that old
Agreed. I was actually surprised when they said he was 85. Thought he was in his 60s.
I feel sad that some of the community college kids are talking about some of their shame from community college and the old man is just happy to have completed school. He’s THE BEST
50 year old dude hangs out with 18-22 year old girls all day and is happy with his life? Do tell.
SuB SONiC it's weird but he probably doesn't have the intentions
@@raccoon663 Not sure I get what you mean. I'm just joking that he probably likes going to school with young ladies, like any other human male.
@idk Qualifiers and exceptions aren't necessary when stating a rule.
@idk Neither would I, yet as you admit, it remains an exception.
The question should be one of intelligibility, and my statement was perfectly clear without your addition. Neither did you help nor hinder our points, nor take the conversation in a relevant or interesting direction.
You could really jump in to almost any conversation and say, "but also gay people," and complain when people ignore you or roll their eyes and sigh heavily or, as I am doing, pedantically explain how to not be a tool. But keep in mind that the condescension will not be because of gay people, but because of you.
I think coming out of Yale with 150,000 dollars in debt has to be tough. I did community college and make a very good wage. I have no college debt I paid as I went. School does not define you. What defines you is what you do in life and how you handle the challenges.
As an HR professional and labour market marketer, I find these conversations so interesting!!! Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated!
why are we not talking about how that girl just said she got into all the ivy’s
Because Ivy League Schools don’t matter in the long run in life
Arran Vid it may not matter to some people, but her acceptances really shows her hardworking ability (especially with asians being less likely to be accepted into colleges). no one gets into an ivy league cause they’re “just smart” and she definitely worked her butt off.
@@aspiknf I mean it kinda of does matter. It makes a huge difference if your applying for a job and have entered an Ivy League or a community college.
No one applies to 17 schools because they actually want to go to all of them. I feel like she applied just to see if she could get in and now she has something cool to brag about.
sara kroczyk Exactly 👍. But then again I've seen some vids about people applying to quite a few places. But it would be for the same reason, to brag...
I'm not even like 3 minutes in but I gotta say Saul deserves the WORLD.
YES
No one DESERVES the world. The world deserves good people.
ZA waurdo
I literally stopped the video at 4:16 to read the comments, hoping to read something like this.
Hey Omo. You deserve the world pretty lady
the one thing i love about my hometown is that our community college is like the 3rd best in the state and it’s beyond affordable so we never really had a stigma against community college if somebody said they were going to DCC they response was always wow that’s a smart choice. my HS even taught some of their classes and i transferee those credits to college.
Saul was so wise and well-spoken in this video, I hope he can share his words with more people around him because he really is lovely to listen to :)
Is no one going to talk about how that one girl is working three jobs AND going to Princeton?! Her time management skills must be through the roof
Filiz Baltaci and she’s playing a sport too I think
Seriously tho lol
I was thinking that too, I hope she’s doing okay mentally
Allyson Reinert honestly I have no ideas how someone can even handle that mentally and physically
Yeah, but depends on hours worked. It's more self boasting to say I worked 3 jobs and all three d's up to 8 hours. I know this because I also hand two jobs on campus equal to 36 hours a week but my outside campus job was 36hrs by itself so my work week was 72 hours not including 15 hours course load I did this for almost 3years.
"It's Yale that built my character. That makes me the person that I am."
His parents: Am I a joke to you?
There are a lot of shitty parents out there, a good education is way more consistent
hahahahaha yes
They might not have had a good life before college, as that goes for a lot of people
leying His mother is literally paying for his college. Don’t you dare call her a shitty parent.
Sharpe1502 that doesn’t mean anything. I live in a single parent household but my dad travels out of state very often. It sucks because he thinks that money will make me happy and fill my needs. It most certainly does not. He could pay for my tuition and I’d be grateful, but he most certainly did not build my character or raise me.
I'm so proud of Saul. He's such a great example to everyone!
I'm a single mom, paying for college out of pocket, and working full time. It's hard but I'm so proud of myself for doing it. This is my fifth degree but it'll be the one that I'll be able to sustain a position in.
Stop it, save your money for your kids
Q: How do you know that someone goes to Yale?
A: Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
Steve Burns best comment on this thread 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Aman ASMR! I worked in Philly’s University City area for a long time. I know the crowd very well lol
How do you know someone is queer/trans?
A: Don't worry, they'll tell you.
My mom attended Harvard and she hardly ever talks about it (Harvard is better hahahah)
They'll Yale it at you.
Saul is from my graduation class!!! We are all so proud of him.
Steph Anie aw yay!
Yay Saul!
I went to smc but transfer to lacc. I’m at my last year there this year before I transfer to a uni.
what books has he published?? ijj want to buy them
Yajaira Barron yes plzz i need to know!!
I think it doesn't matter where you go as you still pursue your education, the only difference is the name brand and the connections that can be made through top colleges
I went to community college for 2 years and now I’m at a university to finish my degree. I get asked all the time which one I liked more and I always choose the community college. My professors made me passionate about my classes, the classes were smaller which gave me a better opportunity to learn more, it challenged me more, and it gave me amazing resources. The university I go to now seems too easy, they make you pay for so much more, and the classes are ridiculously huge. I feel like students take too much pride in where they go.
what’s the university you’re going to now??
Is no one going to talk about Cassandra getting into 17 schools plus all the ivy league schools.
I strongly think on what Cassandra did was THE IMPOSSIBLE which to me that was an astonishing feat by her getting herself into 17 elite colleges.
What can we say she is a sad case of being whipped by a tiger mum
Im curious as to what her major is..
skorpia g most likely she’s a STEM major
The admission fees alone Jesus
4:53 "It came in here from you, Yale didn't put that into you"
I teared up when he said that. Wise words.
@@beldinlov13 facts, he just showed that it was his choices who made it who he was and that it wasn't a prestigious college. Couldn't had said it any better.
Too bad it won't reach his heart...Title is everything for him.. or so it seems
Kids from ivy league school are pretty cookie cutter💤
Well while i loved that comment from saul you have to understand that college can change you, like a lot. Its a whole new independent experience. While it was him who got into yale, yale helped him to refine himself and hes just proud of where he is now
I spent a lot of time with military veterans in both undergraduate and graduate school (top 10), some of whom started at community college at some point. It’s about taking advantage of what you have. Talking with them kept me in touch with reality, and reminded me of what must be strived rather than academic prestige.
If you focus on that, and the blessings you do have, it's easier to attain these opportunities.
I'm a community college grad who then got a B.A. at a weak state school, and now I'm doing a PhD and teaching at one of the most prestigious state universities and research institutions in the country. I 100% think community college is an excellent option. There is no sense spending $30,000-$40,000 a year to take gen eds and attend lectures of 400-500 students where nobody knows your name, especially if you are undecided on what you want to major in. At my CC, I got to know my professors, got great letters of recommendation, got to be a campus leader, and saved tons of money. Nobody cares later on about where you graduated.
Ivy league, it's more about prestige and bragging rights by individuals within an enclosed sphere where little of it matters overall.
You can tell that this deeply effects the girl with the pink hair. It hurts when it feels like you have so much to offer, but no resources. Rooting for you, pink hair girl!
I love her!
lol i believe her name is Trinity
she literally has a name.
@@steventolerhan5110 she didn't complain about not being able to get into ivy league or even a university she was just saying that CC was only a viable option because of the price
@steven tolerhan I think anyone who has made it into or even just made a reasonable application to an Ivy League school knows it's definitely not just the grades
Saul is 85? hes looking great, I thought he was like 60
Tom Williams96 same I think he was around 55/60 too😂
HE'S HOW OLD NOW? 😂
I thought he was 27 lol
@@provoked_zyrox3831 i mean he could probably get away for being 13
That's an accomplishment in it self 💪
I didn't feel shame going to community college, I knew what I wanted and how to get there. I fucked up in high school but I intended to change that. I knew going in that my life experience and personal motivation outweighed what some would say a lower education. At the end of the day, I pay my bills and I support my family what I do belongs to me.
Saul has a wonderful grounded perspective. What a cool guy.
"Cory and Saul" would make a great sitcom...the nerdy Ivy Grad who inherited his parents' big mansion but is left with the wise old handyman who gets him out of his shell with weekly adventures. Netflix, let's chat.
yes please
or the handyman that Cory is mean to and pushes away
Can I get a script while your at it? Asking for a freind 😅👀
El Jimmy omg I thought you were Netflix I just saw the red and black pfp and was like 😦
😂
Koreaboop your good ma 😂
I want to see ivy league professors vs community college professors that would be cool :)
Leslie H underrated comment
YES
Yes!!! I hope they do this!!
Yessssssss
YES, ME TOO!
I've attended two community colleges, a 'mid tier' public uni, and grad school at a 'prestigious' soCal public uni. My best experience was at the community college, instructors were actually engaged in teaching and honestly my lower div math + physical sciences were much more difficult than my undergrad institution. I studied engineering.
Going to community college allowed me a chance to find my stability and explore what I liked. I worked part time jobs and took out loans to put a roof over my head while I went to school. Since I paid for it myself, I feel like I got more value out of it than others that hadn't invested as much of themselves into it.
Sometimes what u want to do in life doesn’t require university
This is top notch advice!
Yeah shout out to the firefighters, construction workers, estheticians, electricians, carpenters, and artists. Most importantly shout out to the under-paid lifesavers: lifeguards, and emts/paramedics. Shout out to those who continue to work in jobs that are being automated bc our consumer-capitalist society did you dirty.
True but there’s no harm in an increased paycheck.
Clarence Davis III that increased paycheck isn’t necessarily a sure thing
Romeo Barnes actually if two employees have the same standard level of education and workplace performance the worker with a College degree will get the raise/promotion. Assuming workplace discrimination isn’t a factor.
The girl with the pinkish hair sounds a little uncomfortable being a CC student... like she'd like to be "more". I wish she knew she is doing great already.
i am 32 now going to CC again.. well i am in culinary school which is in CC and i am comfortable with it and proud of it but when i was 18. i also went to CC and i was so embarrassed about it because many of my friends went to better universities and i felt like a failure. it's really strange because now that i am older. i realise it doesn't matter and by the time you 30. no one cares except for when you are applying for a job. lol
She just seemed shy to me
Shes probably had to many ppl in her life tell her or give her the sense that her community college education is less valuable and that's a shame. I hope after this experience she'll be more prideful about attending a CC
At the end of the video she joked about going to Yale and taking pictures “I’m a Yale student”. You can definitely see where she really wishes she was given a different set of cards in life.
to be fair she's studying to be a novelist, and her criteria for school choice was based on proximity, affordability and that her friends went there. Then, put her in this situation, no wonder she's defensive and not comfortable.
Saul is incredibly wise and it’s inspiring that he graduated at his age. I feel like people think that once you hit a certain age, “it’s over” and there’s no reason to go to college especially when you don’t feel you fit the “stereotypical” college student. Congrats to him.
I am incredibly proud of attending a community college, I'm majoring in a subject that I love, I have friends going there, I get to stay close to my family, and when my two years are up I'll attend university.
I think people miss the fact that you can transfer, your not stuck in a box always remember that.
It’s very easy for an Ivy League student to tell someone attending cc to not care about what others think and just be happy
bts paved the way omg army hello
just like rich people tell poor people that money doesn't buy happiness
I think it’s true though, it’s not easy but like you wouldn’t care what people thought if you knew how little thought they gave to something, like at the end of the day you have to go to school and deal with it so why not be proud, be proud that you’re at school to get a higher education, most don’t, a lot of my friends go to top schools and I’m proud of them for their accomplishments but I also love my school and am so proud of it and honored to go there.
@@70spoem because it doesn't...
sawyers were the Ivy League kids supposed to say something different so everyone can call them an asshole? Lol
Get this...I have a 91 year old man in my math class at community college.
Wth?
Jordan Gregoli lmao respect for him
Damn, the oldest person I had was a 65 yr old woman in my comp sci class.
Ey its never too late.
Jordan Gregoli I recently just saw old man, he had a hunch back, cane and he look like he was in his 80s. He had his backpack on, ready to learn. He’s was bored so he when to college 🤷🏽♀️ I had a lady who sat next to me in my composition class that had a son who’s was also in the same class with us.
i love trinity’s energy and personality, she’s so nice
A couple of days ago, I went to the women empowerment seminar at my school and our president mentioned in his speech "We may not be an ivy league school, but we are a community" Honestly it's the best thing I've heard. I'm proud of my school regardless.
When the Yale guy basically said that Ivy League students were “the best people” in the finance field the girl with the pink hair’s face broke my heart :(
It broke mine as well. He had said before that Ivy League students don’t feel that they’re better than community college students and then uses “the best people” to describe the students at Yale :/
People are very proud of your school. I think it’s more a saying than anything else. But you are more special for getting into an Ivy League school. Anybody can get into a community college
My man has already mastered the art of "telling the peasant class what they wanna hear" but still has that good ol boy contempt for the poor. My favorite parts where were he suggested Emily didnt deserve to get into Princeton because she got in on a soccer scholarship, and where he admitted to not getting financial aid. I'm sure that he will turn into a great guy after he gets into finance though lmao.
If you wanna know when it happens its at 16:52
@@porpoise3927 The young guy's views are very centered upon his current experiences. He's still in college, so naturally his world, social network, and bubble all revolve around his school. If you interview him again in 10 years, I'm confident you'll find that his views have drastically changed.
They should make an odd man out video with 6 Ivy League students versus 1 community college student
Yes
that would be too easy
yazzzzzz
Yessssssssss
Omfg yo best idea I've seen on here. Jubilee please do this
Girl with the red hair is clearly more envious of others education than focused on her own, comparison is the theif of joy. Live your own life. Someone from yale is probably envious of kids who have massive inheritance and dont need an education. Life will always be sad if you look around enough, keep your head down and focus on your own goals
When you go to a Community college and then eventually graduate from a 4-year university, your degree looks the exact same as someone who attended all 4 years at that 4-year university. No 4-year university adds a footnote on your Bachelor's degree that says, "only attended last 2 years here, got their AA degree from Community College". And no hiring manager asks if you first went to a Community college before getting your degree from the 4-year university. Remember that, and just be proud of your accomplishments.
ok no ones gonna mention the fact that he's 85? he looks way younger
He looks 60
65 id say
When I saw him i thought he was 60 but when he said he was 85 my jaw dropped
I was thinking around 55!!
Elaina Haney maybe not 55 😂😂
“I got into all 8 Ivy League Schools”- I’m sorry sis WHAT
Imagine the try-hard life that went into this.. you can achieve more through just being a hustler...
@@calv.io.n8080 being a hustler and getting into the Ivy League (or Ivy level school) is not mutually exclusive. People who are hustlers and went to an Ivy, become Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos... just to name a few.
@@calv.io.n8080 you don’t need to be an asshole.
@@calv.io.n8080 Bruh she went to my school. She was essentially a professional journalist as a teenager. She HUSTLED to get into those schools
@@calv.io.n8080 why do y’all try to insult people by calling them try-hards, she probably worked her ass off to get into all those schools
This stuff is crazy to me as a Canadian. For us it’s flipped. Here university and college are considered two different things, with university being for more “thinking” based fields like physics and college being more for “doing” based fields like business or welding. In Canada technically almost every college is a “community college” since most unis and colleges are government funded and the majority of private colleges are considered low quality. The culture difference is so interesting since we don’t really rank schools and we don’t place such a heavy emphasis on post secondary prestige like Americans do. Great video, it was really cool to watch from the outside looking in.
Yeah, after moving to Canada I've never heard anyone respond to a Canadian college name with "wow how'd you get in there?". The elite US colleges are for sure better than anything in Canada, but it's hard to argue that they're worth the immense cost. If you come from a well off family though, there's a lot of benefits to attending an elite school.
@CrispTomato94 Yeah. Canada is just the US but a billion times better
@@cmdtrigun I don't think the elite US universities are better. If they are, in what way? I don't really understand why people hype them up so much..... when you can get the same education at 10% of the cost somewhere else
Thats something disingenuous that Europeans talk to Americans. They act like their free Unis are equivalent to Harvard or MIT, but dont talk about how expensive Eton or Oxford is. Im happy you guys mentioned college and University are different
When I think of going into higher education, money is something that definitely doesn't cross my mind that might prevent me from enrolling. Bless up for HECS in Aus. US needs to step up and provide more support for students