New Science On Why Collagen Is So Effective
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0:00 Introduction
0:43 Structure of Collagen
3:06 LMNT
4:18 Hair, Skin, Nails
9:38 Joint Health
12:32 Muscle Growth
18:27 Cognition
21:30 Choosing A Supplement
23:40 Dosage
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Collagen Peptides Review
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Skin Health
Totally anecdotal, but when I cut part of my finger off, I stuck to a serious whey protein and collagen peptide regiment for 2 weeks after surgery. My surgeon said it was one of the best skin graft takes and healings he ever saw.
I have to agree and back you up on that as well. I had major abdominal wall reconstruction a month ago and I was expected to remain bed ridden for more than 8 to 12 weeks. Week 4 and as of week three i was back to my normal and the recovery is 90%. Back to normal. My surgeon approved of my use of collagen peptides in a glass of 100% pure organic cherry tart every night before bed and in the morning. 1:18
I was waiting for you to say your finger grew back.
@@considertheproductyou nurses give inessential protein as a supplement 😅😅😅
I cut off part of my thumb. I didn't take anything. And the doctor said it was the fastest healing he'd ever seen.
So I recommend taking nothing.
@@RaveyDavey My mind is blown😱
As a rock climber, we put heavy loads onto our fingers, stressing our tendons and ligaments in them. I could really feel the difference when not taking collagen vs taking it. I felt the change.
Are there side effects ?
@@erikmorales17 according to healthline, its bloating, heartburn, and feelings of fullness; but I never felt those things. Me and my doctor friend also talked about this and we discussed how the effects took some time to kick in, maybe like 1-2 months. I'm always listening to my body in case I injure them and it was a subtle, yet sure change in feeling. Since this is based off of feeling its hard to gauge though, it might be all in the mind like maybe I got stronger, a placebo, but with this video, from asking my fellow friends along with my opinion; I think the only side effect is a positive enhancement.
Well of course everyone is built differently so taking collagen for me may be a positive enhancement, but to someone else it could be bad (although I really don't see how it could be bad)
How much did you take a day and what kind
What specific supplement do you use?
Here's my experience...about 3 months ago I started taking collagen peptides powder in my coffee every morning. I've had arthritis for years and a couple of years ago my lower back was in such bad shape I didn't think I'd be able to plant a garden much longer. A few years ago I hurt my shoulder and went through 2 years of healing a frozen shoulder. Within a few weeks of starting the collagen all my joints felt loose and comfortable again.
Appreciate you sharing your experience, as this is what I just started using collagen peptides for 2 weeks ago (for my aching hands and joints). Are you doing just 1 scoop or 2 in your morning coffee? I've started off doing 1 scoop in my morning coffee, but wondering if I should be doing 2 scoops. Wondering if there's a difference in the results, or if it will just take longer to see results kinda thing.
@@shannonmistrot1944 Two scoops of my collegen peptides is 12 grams. I use four heaping scoops every morning to get between 12 and 30 grams. While I can't isolate collagen benefits due to other supplements and nutrition I follow, the basal thumb arthritis seems to be improving and my 75-yr old skin doesn't show the traditional pace of aging. After this video, I'm, ordering undenatured Type II collagen for arthritis cause my brand contains type I and III.
What kind did you get?
Dr.axe multi collagen at vitamin shoppe has cured my tennis and golfers elbow.
Pommmkk JJ
As someone who started taking collegen for joint health and gut issues, I did not see any improvement in my skin or hair in the first year. But I had two pictures taken in the exact same place and light. One taken after being on collegen a few years. The next picture about 3 years later. I could see the improvement. I am in my 60s, so no one is asking for my ID. But at my age you appreciate any improvement.
What were your dosages? Most real improvement in skin seems to happen with very large dosages, like 8 grams and up
it's just protein there is nothing magical about it if you eat them. At the end just like other protein sources collagen, are broken down into amino acids or small peptides during digestion. These are then absorbed and used as building blocks for various functions within the body.
At your age the amount of amino acids you need to intake on a daily basis is around 40g per day to see drastic improvements since your body has a lot of collagen loss already at that age due to bone detoriation sagging skin lose of fat epidermal water loss, the amino acids you intake aren’t enough so you need to take a proper dosage for your age, i’d say minimum of 20g per day.
I'm 62 and I have collagen everyday. I am a firm believer. New hair growth, nails are harder, skin is looking good. I truly believe
I’m 75. I train with weights every other day always seeking slight progressive overload. Each day I mix 20 grams of whey protein, 5 grams of creatine, and about 3 grams of collagen peptides in a glass of skim milk. This drink reduces my recovery time and slows the effects of sarcopenia.
Would suggest avoiding normal milk, and stick to the A2 casein types only. Older breeds of cows are A2, goats, sheep, and water buffalo are also A2 only producing.
One of the ways that I notice the difference (in an immediate and obvious sense), regular milk makes me very mucous filled and the A2 only types of milk (whether from cows, goat or sheep) doesn't do this to me whatsoever.
@@justinw1765 I don’t have that problem with skim milk. Why would I avoid something that doesn’t present a problem for me?
First of all that’s now how it works. Jeeze a bunch of idiots online trying to sell their shit
@@alphamale3141 do you see any improvement in your skin and wrinkles ?
@@futurebreedmachine9302 Just had to comment because of the name - Meshuggah
After taking collagen for a few weeks, I found I had less aches and pains and more flexibility. When I stopped taking it, I immediately noticed a difference.
I stongly feel that these are fake ad comments or these people are in stong placebo effect. it's just protein there is nothing magical about it if you eat them. At the end just like other protein sources collagen, are broken down into amino acids or small peptides during digestion. These are then absorbed and used as building blocks for various functions within the body.
I find it a bit ironic that you that you criticise supplement influencers while just 2 minutes later praising your electrolyte sponsor as if it's the end all be all cure to everything. Don't you think that's a bit disingenuous?
LMNT's formula is far too aggressive for anyone outside of an athlete doing what amounts to 2-a-days. For the rest of us, it's way too much sodium and not enough other minerals.
Tried it for a month. I cycle 6-8hrs a week and lift 3-4 days a week and it was even too much for me.
Absolutely
@@Real28yeah, nobody seems to talk about it, I'd rather add me some salt to my water than spend ridiculous amouts of money on a packet of salt and a "natural" flavoring
Well said!
@@Real28 When I saw the price, I was shocked. Then I looked at the ingredients and felt amused. 😂
I will keep on taking pure natural salt and then drink mineral water. I use several salts, all natural, such as fleur de sel, Celtic salt, Himalayan salt.
Since I went all carnivore, I mainly spice my meat with any one of my salts. No additives and no other taste needed when using natural, freshly ground or chunky salt.
I like how every thumbnail has that face expression. You’ll never know if the review is good or bad😂😂😂
loved the video, thank you for the comprehensive info!
I started taking collagen (and focused on general protein intake) for over a year now and my hair has totally changed. Thinning runs in my family and it's something I'm hyperaware of - no one in my family is health-conscious and consume a highly processed american diet. My hair has become noticeably thicker and I'm hopefully that my healthy lifestyle, combined with ample protein intake paired with a collagen supplement, that my thinning will be delayed/slowed.
Do you have recessed hairline or bald spots as well ?
@@futurebreedmachine9302 No, I'm 30 and have always had thin/fine hair. The men in my family have receding hairlines, my mom has general balding, mainly on top of her scalp, she barely has any hair on top anymore at age 48. I was skeptical that taking collagen would have any affect, but my hair is noticeably thicker after a year or taking it. I will say that I can't attribute it all to the collagen though, I've turned my diet around completely focusing on my protein intake, eating no less than 150 grams per day (I'm female 150lbs). I suspect I had been eating sub 50g protein prior...Fingers crossed.
Has your family taken notice and been like, “hey, what’s wrong with you?”? 😂
My hair started getting thin on my 30s... but super slowly.. now 35 and after taking collagen for 1 year my hair started thinnin super fast.. maybe its not related tho
@@saiayincoby4675 how much collagen do you take daily ?
You should look at it's effect on endogenous glutathione production as well! Very useful in the aging population as circulating antioxidants like glutathione decrease
It wouldn't impact glutathione much beyond the increase in circulating glycine. Using something like NAC will be a better work horse for that. Furthermore, NAC would take advantage of higher circulating glycine for producing glutathione.
Beautiful and most comprehensive informative and beneficial video on collagen, I’ve seen thus far 👆🏽👌🏽
What an awesome channel. Love the depth and studies
Been taking collagen for years. Glad to know it hasn't been a waste of money 😁
Its like most supplaments, specially antiaging ones. you dont start to notice the difference until you stop taking them 😄
@@Kaizen747 facts
I just eat jello. vitamin c and gelatin/collagen together can make ur tendons a lot stronger.
@@georgepierre3594 Makes my nails and hair grow like crazy
Any effect on reducing wrinkles?
Great talk. There are 4-5 research reviews published on collagen. They're a gold mine for the many dozens of studies done on collagen. The stuff really does seem to work.
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@@miguelmejia4656 Yes, in human clinical trials, the improvements in skin are demonstrated.
@@presence5426 It's promising but still lacking in research as there are possibly multiple other factors that could be affecting collagen and it's production in the body. Collegen supplemention could lead to correlative incresases in collagen, not necessarily causative.
@@ludvig3242 The scientists who did the systematic reviews/meta-analyses understand confounding variables and methodological flaws. So do many of the scientists who did the primary studies and the RCT's. They're well aware of your questions. But there's a good amount of research that suggests causation, not merely correlation.
Yea it seems like they might. I’m not clear about the findings for different kinds of collagen and also collagen peptides that are heated during the process as opposed to ones that are not denatured. Have you found studies that clarify these points?
I do weight lifting (since 2014 and I am 38 y) and I have been stuck on 65 kilo bench press due to joint pains in the shoulder when I try to go higher than 65 kilo.
I started Collagen since last summer, and I now do 80 kilo bench press and no joint pain, I am 100% confident it is due to collagen together with increased protein intake and a few other supplements.
What brand do you use?
Came here from Haircafe
From the way Kevin talked about you, if was very obvious you really do understand how to authenticate research
It would be cool if you added links in the description to each study shown in your videos.
I can testify that it helps with knee and joint pain. I broke my ankle last September on a hike and a year later I was still limping in pain after long sitting or getting out of bed. The broken ankle started affecting my knee due to unstable or uneven walking. Started taking collagen and it was all gone. I couldn't believe it. I will never stop taking it! I do hate cutting my nails and hair often but I will take it since the pain is gone. I am not sure how much you should take but I would put 1 tablespoons of Vital Protein collagen in my morning hot tea and sometimes have another tea with another tablespoon later in the day.
So glad to hear that it worked for you! Which product did you use?
Yeah, my torn achilles would not heal forever, and then I started collegen and it healed rapidly. Pain was gone in maybe a month.
Yup, it certainly works. Don't forget to add vitamin C to your intake as well. Vegetables or citrus fruits.
@@Iron-Bridge yes vitamin c is a major player in collagen. they coexist to repair ligaments, joints, skin, muscles and bones.
Which brand were you taking?
I’ve been taking collagen peptides for about two weeks and I can say, I can tell a difference. My nails are getting longer faster. The most noticeable improvement is my shoulder cuff pain. For the first time in two years, I was able to work out on my shoulders with heavy weight. It didn’t bother me. I think it’s because of the collagen. I don’t know. I didn’t have any pain.
This was very interesting and something i hadn't gotten into yet,
so thank you.
What your saying is intelligent, articulate and I very much value your information. Thanks for that.
I've been taking it to help me recover from a injury and I have been getting quite high sleep scores on my garmin. Even got a 98 score one of the night. Seems to be working.
What’s a garmin? What does it do and how can we find it?
Would you kind putting a post up of a sort to show what the best collagen supplement ok the market would be to use?
Thanks, excellent collagen review!
Any opinion on fish oil being harmful because of the idea that supplementation would lead to a build up of lipofuscin?
Could you please cover more on UC-ii vs standard hydrolysed collagen peptides (types 1 and 3) in bone and joint health
Renewed Health has a great 100% grass-fed & finished collagen with added collagen boosting ingredients all in one! Newer brand but best Ive used by far
Have you tried Ancient Nutrition? I have been using that product purchased at Whole Foods.
🙏🏻 the most informative video on collagen yet.
I’ve had tennis and golfers elbow for 4 months. After one month of dr.axe collagen , my pain went away and I can continue to lift heavy.
thanks for your magnificent content, keep it up bro!!
collagen peptides are super effective at balancing your amino acid intake to be more natural
So supposed about it. I’ve been taking Vital Protein Collagen for years off and on. Each time I take it, after about 3 months my wrinkles lessen, my nails get hard and I start get dark hairs in my gray hair. Too bad I get lazy and stop taking. I definitely don’t look my age of 60.
your grey hairs return color?
@@ekdromoithat's how you know this guy's full of shit.
Thanks for the video.does mixing collagen with protein powder dilute the collagen ? Or are there any studies on this ? Thanks and video liked !
No it does not dilute it. 5g of collagen is 5g of collagen - no matter what you mix it with. The net amount of collagen is what matters.
I take collagen peptides to aid my Jiu Jitsu recovery.
This is anecdotal and hard to disentangle from other factors like muscle growth and improved skill level, but before taking collagen proteins I would often end up with these lagging injuries and tweaks that would go away eventually, but would negatively impact my performance in the interim. My knees in particular would often ache after a day of playing butterfly guard and other knee-heavy techniques. Been taking collagen regularly with my protein shake for about 6 months now. My knees feel solid and stronger than ever, and I feel normal wear and tear doesn't hit me nearly as hard and heals very quickly. Typically by the next day.
I'm not performing a scientific experiment here so I can't say for sure if collagen is to thank for this, but I'm going to continue taking it and would recommend it to my BJJ friends.
First of all sir you are bringing the most cutting edge and resource based knowledge about nutrition .Second I want you
to make a video like this on super reds and super Greens thank you.
The problem with people not reaping most of the benefit after a protein rich food is because we tend to fry or roast our food too much hence it destroys most of the nutritional content, eating food the least cooked as possible is the way to reap the benefit out of protein rich foods, like for example gently boiling the legume and the fish instead of frying or turning it in puree.
Great vid. Thanks! 👌🏾
I've been having collagen creamer purely because it's a nice way to have hot chocolate without having junk food.i found my knee that's been playing up is feeling a bit better, it's been clicking for 2 years from an injury,now it barely clicks and feels smoother
I am too poor for Collagen Supplements, been consuming gelatin as subtitles. It works!
Thanks for this super tip. You probably mean substitute, not subtitle.
Gelatin is a great source of collagen
Invest in a slow cooker. Get a bunch of bones from your local butcher. Make bone broth. Don't forget to take your vitamin C as well. Started doing this when I was too poor. And I still do it even now with a better budget. It works.
Buy a a premade rotisserie chicken, eat the skin, save the bones, make bone broth.
@@JoshuaKevinPerry just eat foods that got collagen .
Great point on protein intake overall.
Been taking collagens for years. My hair and skin has been great. I'm 39 years old and people always tell me I look like I'm in my mid to late 20s. 😅👍😁💪
Is type 2 collagen for joint support also just as good of an amino acid booster for muscle support as the peptide collagen? (in addition to whey protein)
Or would both need to be considered to get the best of both worlds?
Thank you !
It helps almost everything as long as you can get off of alcohol. But then again every part of your life will improve without alcohol just ask Andrew Huberman!
145 days No Alcohol 🥇🏆✊🦅
Right on. I'm on day 112.🌊
Wow! The group that supplemented with collagen (a protein/ source of calories) gained more than the group that was given a placebo! Also they should look into a study that would compare collagen peptides vs a 1:1 mix of the constituent amino acids ( a protein powder 33% glycine, 14% hydroxyproline... Etc) because I would imagine that pepsin and other peptidases would do the same in our body
This is what I hope.
The best research I have seen has been done on tendons. And they have shown that vitamin c is also required. Non eof the studies I have seen have used anything other than collagen peptides or jello powder (gelatin) enriched with vitamin c. I think until they compare collagen peptides to unbound amino acids it is a fair assumption that they would be equal. Due to the fact that (if I recall correctly) they have proven as much when it comes to whey protien vs unbound aminos that match wheys profile for muscle building.
@@PaulKentSkates I don't understand, isn't cheap gelatin from grocery stores the same as collagen peptides? Or are they different in terms of benefits?
@@stanislavp1739 and egg whites and bone broth from chickens etc.
I was skeptical about collagen given the talk about how it's too big to be absorbed but I've noticed improvements in skin, aging and also some pleasant unexpected benefits. But like mentioned around the 21 min mark, maybe the benefits are just from improving the amino acid profile. Whatever works.
That’s for absorption through skin. Collagen lotions or gels are not affective as collagen is too large to pass through skin.
@@IworshipIbut it still gets broken down if you taje it orally- our bodies cannot use “prebuilt” collagen. We have to make it ourselves.
13:01 was everyone (placebo and study group group alike) eating the same food and performing the same exercises? It would be incredibly difficult to quantify collagen's efficacy in this context if everyone was eating whatever they wanted and training differently to each other. Just prescribing "60 minutes of resistance exercise" isn't sufficient. This issue would be even more pronounced if the study didn't use a large sample size.
edit: also, were the participants all previously untrained or did they all have experience with resistance training? a mix of one or the other would effect the results too as it has been shown that new lifters accumulate mass faster than those with more experience.
I always think about this, especially since none of them are probably even training in an optimal way
I had what I thought was severe eczema on my face. severely dry skin after showering. I then took 10 grams in the morning and 10 grams at night along with collagen rich broths. less than a month later I have nearly zero symptoms of dry scaley face. the positive change appeared overnight.
Damn nice
That's awesome. My bff suffers from eczema - I will definitely pass this info along. Thanks for sharing 😁!
The other thing to consider is the age of the person. As we age markers start dropping quickly. I am 74 and with the normal osteoarthritis and deterioratin bone health I would probably benefit to a greater degree than someone like you half my age. So when you say you can not tell a lot of difference in taking the supplement it does not mean that when you are twice your age, you will not experience greater benefits that you do now.
EXACTLY! A 20 year old isnt going to notice "Joint improvement"
I take this hemp infused collagen by protein essentials. There seems to be any reviews on it online but a friend of mine whose an armwrestler loves it
Beta alanine (effects on fibroblasts), gelatin (full collagen peptide basically), hydrolyzed collagen (your hydrolyzed whey vs the concentrated gelatin), vitamin C, chondroitin and glucosamine.
Do what you want with this knowledge.
Personal recommendation is gelatin v hydrolyzed collagen, I drink with cold water and its like goopy sand.
collagen has been instrumental in managing my ME/CFS/long covid symptoms.
I use collagen peptides, take a prolonged release viamin c, and take glycine before bed. I have been prone to injury in the gym my whole life and my joints have felt great since I started this regimen six months ago.
has it made your skin better
has it made your skin better
Great video thanks for the info , quick question , is the Blue collagen on your thumbnail a good one ? ( vital proteins )
Yeah
@@NutritionLibrary does it get rid of wrinkles
My finger joints were getting bad from work and not stretching before playing guitar. Been a week since getting back on collagen and they’re feeling better. Also smoking some Mary Jane makes them feel like butter and makes guitar playing even more fun for me.
Stretching isn't good for you. And dietary collagen does nothing.
I drink bone broth like tea or coffee. It’s tasty and offers great benefit. Also inexpensive. Would recommend.
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I have been taking collagen for about 2 years with no noticeable improvement to my skin. Although I do feel a difference in my joints.
How old are you? And maybe there's no improvement, but it could be maintaining your skin.
I’m taking it for about a month & im guarded with regards to any improvements I’m unsure whether or not I see. I can say with certainty though, that my fingernails are growing like crazy. Not the benefit I was hoping for, but if anyone is looking for that benefit, give it a go.
Awesome job. Ty
I used collagen and also bought BPC 157.
I take collagen to help recover after grip training, world of difference compared to before. I can train grip 3-4 times a week now instead of 2. Legit.
This came up right as I started taking this for knee tendonitis. You think you can do a video on NAC as a biofilm disruptor or biofilm disruptors in general? Would love that
barefoot grass walking g
a video on NAC by Nutrition Library would be very great
PLease I'm young 30 And I injuried my wrist working out and ive been dealing with on and off pain for a year and a half. Docs have been no help they just want to throw steroids at it and that only helps for a couple of weeks at best.
Nac is good for trichotillomania
serrapeptase enzyme is also a biofilm disruptor btw
What is the best brand for collagen?
I've been trying it for tendon problems at the gym and the healing affect has been amazing, my sleep quality seems better too
EDIT: I've now noticed my skin is a lot better I have no dry skin anymore, my tendons and muscles feel amazing and everyone is saying I look like I'm about 20 and I'm 27 ahaha. I have wow hydrates they're amazing
Amino acids are fully absorbable, peptides a little absorbable, protein barely absorbable. Collagen is harder to absorb than single amino acids from plants.
@@aguy481 digesting whole foods is not ideal for optimal timing of the nutrients needed for tendon growth. Very few vegetarian protein powders are available that would be ideal for this task. (I have found one that is enriched with vegan sourced glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline. I actually have a video about achilies tendons and I link the vegetarian powder in the description if you care. I wouldn't bother with the video unless you have achilies tendon issues though.)
Don't forget collagen is not as effective for tendon without also dosing with vitamin c ideally 1 hour before exercises selected to load the tendons.
@@aguy481 you know things get broken down in the body by enzymes and such
@@aguy481 if things require more processes to break down into useable molecules, I imagine less of the total available molecules are absorbed by the time digestion is complete, collagen in the source of power would increase absorption
What product?
Lotta info - thanks
Hi, Have any studies looked at the effect of collagen supplements on the gut microbiome? I personally hesitate to put anything like this in my body, despite the fact that both of my sisters, my niece and daughter-in-law all take these supplements. There are so many brands and the product sounds like it is highly processed... and since we don't know the processes, that raises risk in my book... I just would like to know if the long-term effect of collagen peptides on the gut microbiome has at all been studied. Thank you. SoCalFreddy
If you are trying to get gut benefits have you tried bone broth? I did both. Collagen and bone broth. My gut feels amazingly healthy. Joints are loose goosy. No arthritis or joint pains. Jump on in and try it. Start with Dr Axes collagen.
You can't use dietary collagen as-is. It's broken down to the aminos first, so if your collagen production is going down then that issue won't get skipped or change... assuming you have sufficient protein intake
I’ve been taking collagen off and on and I notice when I take it I increase muscle and strength quickly and when I stop I start slowing down on strength gains and muscle gains.
I have a question, are there any studies that put collagen supplements against whey protein powder? It would seem to me that the majority of the benefits that ingesting collagen brings could be simply linked to an increased protein intake
The protein mass added intake is too low to have such a measured effect
Collagen doesn’t contain the amino acid tryptophan, thus is not a perfect protein. It doesn’t work for muscle building.
The research I know off hand shows a significant difference in the formation of new collagen proteins in achilies tendon (human and artificial) between a low dose and and moderate does if collagen taken with 200mg of vitamin c 1 hour before isometric loading.
The amino acids used in building soft tissues that is present in 5g of collagen is much higher than it is in a scoop of whey protein. And whey does not contain hydroxyproline.
Studies have shown a significant increase in collagen fiber synthesis between 5g and 15g of collagen ( both served as gelatin powder and taken with 200mg vitamin c).
This would lead me to understand that a dose of whey large enough would have to be massive and too much to be digested within the limited period of time in which the tendon is best able to accept the amino acids. (Best results from another study show 1 hour after ingestion, and the study I am most familiar with shows the ability for the tendon to accept amino acids is blunted shortly after exercise and remains for about 5 hours (6 hours after exercise). You can take in more collagen and vit c 6 hours after the first dose in preparation for a second round of loading the tendon one hour after the second dose.
This is enough to make me believe that the bodies ability to synthesize its own amino acids needed for collagen synthesis would not be not quick enough to maximize the potential, as we would need to convert 150g of whey and convert it into proline and hydroxyproline while glycine is still elevated and it would need to happen all at once and not spread out over the 3-5 hours it would take to actually digest that much whey.
Collagen is not a replacement for whey and if you are hoping to build stronger more elastic tendons or to heal dysfunctional tendons or ligaments whey is not an ideal substitute for collagen.
If you want nice skin I don't know (or care) of the ability to just take whey. Maybe overdosing whey would provide the building blocks for your body to create its own collagen fast enough to replace skin. Actually doesn't seem far fetched. As long as the whey and the rest of your diet has the nutrients needed to make the correct aminos.
I apologize for being terrible at explaining this stuff.
@@PaulKentSkates thank you for the time you took to write this reply. From the infos I gathered, at the moment my stance is that gram vs gram collagen is more effective for ligaments and tendons healing and growth; whey, however, is cheaper (thus you could simply ingest more of it) and is also better for general purpose (ex muscle growth), which means that unless you have a specific need for faster healing of the connective tissue, you really have no need to buy collagen supplements.
At least that's the conclusion I came to.
@@alpolacci I’ve gotten into the habit of drinking bone broth (home made), and it’s gelatinous and rich. I also eat meat with the bone broth and lots of vitamin C (chili peppers and fruits). After eating that concoction I immediately feel the muscles and skin on my face replenished. If you can’t make bone broth because it’s bothersome and can’t afford collagen powder, you can simply eat Jello, but it will have lots of sugar.
I've taken collagen for a few weeks now but just discovered putting it in my coffee is not a good thing because heat breaks it down. I'll start drinking it in my whey now and see if that helps.
I think ur body has to break it down to use it anyway, so may not be that much of a problem.
I have been having lumbar disk issues (repeated bulges and herniations) over the the last six years. Anyone with similar issues try collagen peptides?
Interestingly, us in the Far East (Cantonese to be specific) try to eat a some skin/joint etc food into our diets.
The cheapest source is probably chicken feet or pig skin, the more expensive sources are sea cucumbers, Abalone and fish bladders
My question is if you want the benefits of type I,2,and 3, should you get those that have all three (are they as effective ?) or take 2 different kinds as most collagen supplements on the market are either 1 & 3 together and type 2 separate.
Just take a multi collagen powder
I take Whey & Collegan.
Seems like a pretty good way to cover all my bases & get the most out of my training.
Can you please break down the new science on the dangers of erythritol. I'm curious what your impression of the data is.
I´m 42, I have never worked out in a disciplined way, although I like outdoor sports like running, swimming, trekking and MTB. I want to start to work out, but I don´t know how to start. Anyone can give me a help? Also, which brand is the best one for collagen? I´m stating to feel my body aging, but it´s too early for that... Thanks to whoever responds to this!
Can the benefits of collagen be from addition protein in the diet? Are there any matched studies for total protein intake?
It's not a complete protein, so it should not be taken as a protein supplement.
is it helpfull for knee bending ? my knee stuck 90 degree and i hope its work i started to use type 2 collagen
Love the videos man❤
Slow cooked beef tendons with the shank is my primary collagen food source at the moment
33yo m. I take 24g of beef collagen/d. Collagen has made a positive impact on my joint health and facial hair thickness.
why so much? won't 10g be enough? it's so dummy expensive:(
Started day one for my knees, I’m a jiujitsu athlete. My knees are bad and always crack when I bend them I also have pain everyday. I’m 27 years old.
Are there any links to these studies?
Very effective, I take 6grams pre, and 12g at night on rest days
I dropped a nearly full 32 oz mason jar square on my middle toe from counter height. It should have broke but didn't (Taurine) but it was really purple with some decent swelling and some skin loss at impact. I only limped around for a couple of days and after that it really only hurt if I touched it. No antibiotics or doctor so I kept my eye on it for infection but by day 4 I had no worries. The worst soft tissue injury I've ever had and it was close to 100% in two weeks. My skin for the most part is better now at 51 than in my 20's. The least amount of heal cracking this winter I've ever had. I'll keep taking it.
Switched to Collagen from Whey and saw a HUGE difference in my gut health, granted I may be slightly lactose intolerant which is a compounding factor. Most folks would probably do better to switch to Collagen...
I see online, collagen supplement typically contain 2.5 - 10g dosage per day. Then chicken feet contains like 3g collagen per foot. Can someone just say eat 3-4 feet per day to yield the same effect?
Yeah..Get a big old sack o chicken feet..sounds scrumptious
Surprising that you would mention micrograms of type 2 collagen as by the time it passes through our gut the stomach acids would have destroyed it dosage is too low
Since collagen is a protein and must be broken down into amino acids during digestion in order to be absorbed, what is the difference between a piece of meat and collagen?
Different make up of amino acids.
Soups and broths in Asian cuisines has a lot of collagen in it. You get that from boiling bones and cartilages.
How would you know if you have the right one?
When you digest proteins your body breaks them down into aminoacids, Di- and Tri-peptides, before it can absorb them. There are some AA like antibodies, that can be absorbed without being broken down. So this might be a dumb question but how do we even know that the collagen is directly absorbed and not broken down like the rest of our food?
Its broken down into the right sequence for you body to put into connective tissue. Mainly glycine being very high, where as all other protein sources dont have much glycine at all.
@@shanewitt yes but I mean the amino acids could be used for different things. The collagen protein must be re-synthesized and that’s through a whole regulation. So just because you eat collagen doesn’t mean that it transfer into your body as collagen
Yeah I agree I think its just improving your chances. I also know you need Vitamin C and Zinc present or I dont think the synthesis is activated. Its so complicated 😂 @@isabelle4632
@@isabelle4632which is why this all seems to be nonsense.
I’ve heard that there are peptide transports in the gut.
Does it help with loose skin? And which one should I look for to buy?
From my personal experience yes. Also look into fasting. It also helps.
@@dawnelder9046 which one should I get specifically? Like any kind of collagen? And thank you very much.
very articulate bro
Could you make a video on vitamin c and the effects of mega dosing vitamin c, as I’ve heard that it can be a precursor for collagen synthesis as well, and possible reduction of your own body’s self production of antioxidants with megadosing over long periods. Would be great to see what you find
Mega dosing vitamin C is pointless. Your body only absorbs it to a certain threshold before the rest is secreted in urine. As is the case with most vitamin supplements, just eat foods with vitamin C and save your money. There isn't a supplement that is more bioavailable than the plants from which they derived - barring very specific cases.
@@austaneousc5802 That's partially untrue. Eating enough C-rich foods to flood the tissues with C (the optimum amount Linus Pauling suggested) would come with a large calorie surplus. Most animals absolutely flood their bodies with C on a daily basis and increase the amounts under stress whether viral, bacterial or injuries. You can't heal without it and humans can't make it. A smoker 'burns' 200 mg of C with every cigarette they smoke, destroying it in the lungs - that's one of the reasons smokers age so quickly; you can see it in their skin and obvious health issues. And before the C is excreted in the kidneys, it's flooding the body with beneficial doses. It's cheap and nontoxic at high levels; I think the meme that high dose C is 'pointless' was started by the pharmaceutical companies who stood to lose a lot of $$ if everyone used C instead of their expensive (and often useless) patented chemicals. Read up over at the Linus Pauling Institute's website.
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@Austaneous C That's partially untrue. Eating enough C-rich foods to flood the tissues with C (the optimum amount Linus Pauling suggested) would come with a large calorie surplus. Most animals absolutely flood their bodies with C on a daily basis and increase the amounts under stress whether viral, bacterial or injuries. You can't heal without it and humans can't make it. A smoker 'burns' 200 mg of C with every cigarette they smoke, destroying it in the lungs - that's one of the reasons smokers age so quickly; you can see it in their skin and obvious health issues. And before the C is excreted in the kidneys, it's flooding the body with beneficial doses. It's cheap and nontoxic at high levels; I think the meme that high dose C is 'pointless' was started by the pharmaceutical companies who stood to lose a lot of $$ if everyone used C instead of their expensive (and often useless) patented chemicals. Read up over at the Linus Pauling Institute's website.
@@signalfire6691 Those are interesting biomechanics. However, my point was that supplementing with vitamin C was pointless if you're looking for full saturation into the tissue. There is still an optimal amount that can be absorbed before it is secreted as waste, and many synthetic vitamin c sources may not even work. If you eat a diet with plenty of fruits and vegetables then supplementing is pointless. It's really easy to get your daily intake requirements. Also, it seems logical for pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to say you need to avoid deficiency with supplementation.
I've never heard of this happening with vit c, sources?
So what products are recommend
do u take collagen and which brand would you recommend?
seems very effective indded, but my fear is dependency. does the body suffer worse after supplementation for a long period? like say your absurdly healthy and taking it, but then stop taking it and are still absurdly healthy, does this leave a notable deficient? being dependent on a supplement is what scares me away from starting them
Does it get rid of wrinkles