What If Everything went PERFECT for Poland?

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Komentáře • 814

  • @krolfoltest
    @krolfoltest Před 3 měsíci +1114

    As a Pole, this is the kind of scenario I was waiting for. Not like I am already creating similiar ones in every possible paradox interactive game...

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 3 měsíci +28

      I think Poland is the easiest state in eu4 tbh

    • @user-zg7vq3vd4t
      @user-zg7vq3vd4t Před 3 měsíci +29

      in Eu4, poland is a lucky nation that have a huge Lithuania to help poland❤❤❤

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 3 měsíci +15

      @@user-zg7vq3vd4t unless the ai rejects them for some reason

    • @amei653
      @amei653 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@goldenfiberwheat238unless the Kebabistan decided to knock on the door on MP.

    • @LoganverseS1
      @LoganverseS1 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Every time period in AOH2

  • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
    @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Před 3 měsíci +635

    I think that the butterfly effect of the Soviets doing worse in the civil war would lead to Finland getting more land.

    • @_utahraptor
      @_utahraptor Před 3 měsíci +35

      Can't expect much from this narrow knowledge youtuber

    • @talesferreiralimadossantos8806
      @talesferreiralimadossantos8806 Před 3 měsíci +16

      I don't know, it could be possible, but I think the bolcheviks would secure their border with Finland despite having trouble in Eastern Europe.

    • @StrangeGamer859
      @StrangeGamer859 Před 3 měsíci +26

      Probably, but this video focused only on Poland

    • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
      @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Před 3 měsíci +29

      @@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 Well, shortly after the Finnish civil war had concluded, groups of Finnish soldiers ventured deep into Russian Karelia.
      It could be more than likely that the Finnish diplomates who went to negotiate the border between the two could extract more from the Soviets.
      Still, something like Greater Finland would be put a fever dream. The greatest extent I could see the Finnish border expaning would be to the city of Petroskoi/Petrozavodsk/Äänislinna. Though, this would only be possible, if the Soviet were given free access to use the railway there, as it's the only logistical link route between Murmanks and the rest of Russia at the time.

    • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
      @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Před 3 měsíci +46

      @@_utahraptor They really don't have a reason to cover such a minute and mostly unrelated detail in such a short and focused video.
      If this video was 4 hours and covered a lot more of the implications of the scenario, then I would question their critical thinking abilities with leaving this one out.

  • @arno_grnfld455
    @arno_grnfld455 Před 3 měsíci +661

    Poland could potentially sign a defensive alliance with japan as part of their prometheism project of fracturing russia, this could be further reinforced by Hokushin ron supporters in Japan

    • @SMiki55
      @SMiki55 Před 3 měsíci +109

      Polish-Japanese border on the Urals…

    • @Nobody32990
      @Nobody32990 Před 3 měsíci +66

      @@SMiki55 Bronislav Piłsudzki (Brother of Joseph) married Ainu woman so that another fun trivia on Polish-Japanese connections.

    • @Manetho76
      @Manetho76 Před 3 měsíci

      no way japan would respect a treaty that puts them at war with russia

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 Před 3 měsíci +25

      I mean they were already really friendly with each other irl.

    • @stanisawzokiewski3308
      @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@Nobody32990 Not just any woman but a princess!

  • @stanisawzokiewski3308
    @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 3 měsíci +655

    Wladislaw Jagiello would be a great diversion point.
    He was offered the crown of Bohemia by the hussites, Sigmund of hungary was supposed to abdicate the crown of Hungary after his wife died to her sister (Jadwiga wife of Władysław) who was the other claimant (they had a deal where if one of the queens died without an heir the other would get her throne) but Sigmund didnt live up to the end of his bargain. Novogrod was his vassal for a short time, maybe if the golden horde was pushed back that could be made permanent.
    Wladislaws brother Vytautas challenged the mongol control over Rus, althou failed.
    If it all went perfect and a strengthened Jaggielonian union attacked the Teutonic order they could wipe it all of the map.

    • @catalyst9955
      @catalyst9955 Před 3 měsíci +4

      was Jagiello the fella who died at varna?

    • @sprejxen7659
      @sprejxen7659 Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@catalyst9955 No

    • @stanisawzokiewski3308
      @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 3 měsíci +40

      @@catalyst9955 Not that one.
      Im talking about his father

    • @savelamp7501
      @savelamp7501 Před 3 měsíci +2

      When was Novgorod their vassal

    • @maciej5640
      @maciej5640 Před 3 měsíci +18

      Jogaila was kind of a brainlet when you think about it.
      There's a theory he deliberately failed at the siege of Marienburg so as not to strenghten Poland, who'd have absorbed much of the Teutonic lands, over Lithuania in the Union (which happened anyway).
      Imagine Prussia (the land) being directly annexed by Poland. No Prussia the duchy and later kingdom, no German nationalism in such an aggressive manner, possibly some other nation unifying Germany, if at all. Obviously no partitions either. Possibly no World Wars either.
      His brothers Vytautas and Skirgaila kept on rebelling against him, even allying with the Teutons, and he kept on forgiving them. Over and over and over. It's riddiculous when you read about it. I know it's family and all but I mean come on, after the fifth time he should've taken a hint.
      Mediocre ruler at best, his only shining achievement is keeping the Union going after the death of Jadwiga.

  • @henrybacolor2782
    @henrybacolor2782 Před 3 měsíci +346

    I’d love one of these for Sweden or Denmark. Both had maximum extensions much larger than we’d expect to be sustainable, so seeing how they keep it or lose it in a beneficial way would be cool.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 3 měsíci +393

    Suggestion: What if everything went perfectly For Napoleón III

    • @priyansh_12391
      @priyansh_12391 Před 3 měsíci +14

      interesting

    • @arbiterregnant
      @arbiterregnant Před 3 měsíci +1

      I don't know much about Napoleon III, but off the top of my head, I see puppet emperor Maximilian I Habsburg of Mexico (at least partially) winning loyalty of the people while remaining loyal to France. I also see an alternate Franco-Prussian War where Prussia's defeat means France either gains Geman territories or lots of payment.

    • @evannpalma2404
      @evannpalma2404 Před 3 měsíci +7

      As a French men I see this as an absolute win

    • @TheOneWhoMemes79
      @TheOneWhoMemes79 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Didn’t he already make a video about that

    • @ezvengabrielrosal2392
      @ezvengabrielrosal2392 Před 3 měsíci +18

      ​@@TheOneWhoMemes79 Napoleon the first? The one that's the great general? Napoleon the 3rd is a different person

  • @redguy3256
    @redguy3256 Před 3 měsíci +171

    I agree with the scenario in the video. The only change for me would be that in 1934 Polish army was actually very strong (Poland could be called military dictatorship at the time.) while German military until 1935 was absolutely disaster. Poland irl was more powerful than Germany, not to mention potential Intermarium. German army could hold very tiny frontline (it was impossible for the front to freeze) and would be inevitebly crushed.

    • @wizdmovie9957
      @wizdmovie9957 Před 3 měsíci +20

      the issue is, as he said, if Poland had its actual borders, ukraine and belarus would not have joined, which would have led to similar events to our timeline.

    • @redguy3256
      @redguy3256 Před 3 měsíci +16

      ​@@wizdmovie9957 Polish army in this perfect scenario would be much better-prepared. Ukraine and Belarus had to do nothing, if Poland didn't have border with USSR it's like its army was twice as strong against Germany

    • @wizdmovie9957
      @wizdmovie9957 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@redguy3256 i just realized i responded to a different comment than the one i wanted to, umm. Oops i guess

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic Před 3 měsíci +8

      It might be a more complex balance than that. Even under the Weimar Republic, Germany's interwar army was set up to allow for massive expansion on short notice, and they also had secret projects for the war machines they weren't supposed to have. Obviously they wouldn't have been as prepared in 1934 as they would be in 1939, but in a situation where they were on the defensive and had a natural border to fall back on (there's a reason the modern border is where it is...), there's a decent chance that mass mobilisation could have held a line long enough for German industry to kick over to a war economy.

    • @earthgaming228
      @earthgaming228 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Why do we have the same profile picture lol

  • @TheTytan007
    @TheTytan007 Před 3 měsíci +141

    Curzon line would be a big no no for Poland because you'd leave a tone of polish people outside of Poland. Imo Poland and Galicia and Volhynia alone would either have to be split between Poland and Ukraine or be established as a jointly controlled area of some sort

    • @wizdmovie9957
      @wizdmovie9957 Před 3 měsíci +25

      the issue is, as he said, if Poland had its actual borders, ukraine and belarus would not have joined, which would have led to similar events to our timeline.

    • @stanisawzokiewski3308
      @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@wizdmovie9957 Curzone Line B then for compromise

    • @wizdmovie9957
      @wizdmovie9957 Před 3 měsíci +22

      @@stanisawzokiewski3308 thats what was in the video

    • @xaveircombs2690
      @xaveircombs2690 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@stanisawzokiewski3308curson line b would still have the problem of Polish minorities in wilnno and east Belarus

    • @stanisawzokiewski3308
      @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 3 měsíci +15

      @@xaveircombs2690
      But its a compromise.
      You cant make an alliance without compromise.

  • @tanczacyzesmerfami6832
    @tanczacyzesmerfami6832 Před 3 měsíci +35

    Piłsudski wanted to make a larger Lithuania out of Belarus, Lithuania and a piece of Poland, which would be in a federation with Poland, following the example of the Lithuanian Polish Union.

    • @milobem4458
      @milobem4458 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Pilsudski was still thinking in the PLC terms, where "Lithuanians" meant citizens of GDL, most of whom were Polonized Belarussians, like Kosciuszko and Mickiewicz. The modern state of Lithuania was founded by ethnic Lithuanians who didn't want to be a minority in their own state. Larger Lithuania wouldn't work for them. This is why Vilno problem was not resolvable. It was a Polish city in Lithuania.

    • @RichD1
      @RichD1 Před 2 měsíci

      ⁠​⁠@@milobem4458vilnius will always be lithuanian, yall destroyed our country and then your new expanded country got destroyed, and now a lot of polish people are nationalistic and want vilnius back
      PD: we are far from being a ethnic minority within our own borders, tho we were invaded and in much worse ways than poland and most other countries in the world, and now our country is being fucked because its a post eastern bloc country that has been tryna adapt to the west and our population decline has been second to bulgaria from suicides and massive immigration, so yeah long text but we were far from being russian or polish or any other ethnic group

  • @tereziamarkova2822
    @tereziamarkova2822 Před 3 měsíci +16

    *happy Eduard Beneš noises*
    (Beneš was a big proponent of the "Little Entente" - an economic and defensive pact between Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia. In our timeline, it was obliterated by WW2, but in this scenario, it could be folded into the Intermarium, speeding up its expansion.)

    • @rotmistrzjanm8776
      @rotmistrzjanm8776 Před měsícem +2

      Benes was also ekstremly antipolish and was literally sabotaging intermarium buildup irl

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před měsícem

      It's really no surprise that Eastern Europe got stomped over by the German/Soviet oppressors. Only foolish and unworthy leadership would engage in the petty distraction of regional feuds when they have twin revanchist giants both breathing down their necks. Putting every percent of blame on the west for the east's collapse only whitewashes the reality of it being a "team" effort between the complacent west and the bickering east.

  • @Urcite
    @Urcite Před 3 měsíci +124

    Do Czechoslovakia next🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @Salt_and_Peroxide
      @Salt_and_Peroxide Před 3 měsíci +4

      no v ziadnom pripade to by sa nestalo

    • @patrikmodrovsky1842
      @patrikmodrovsky1842 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Salt_and_Peroxide tak, je tu pár možností, mohli by sme dostať Lemkovu republiku, postaviť sa Mníchovu a následne zabrať Sliezko a Sorbiu
      Alebo
      Veľká Morava by sa nerozpadla a namiesto toho by zjednotila všetkých západných slovanov do jednej krajiny (podobne ako vzniklo Nemecko)

    • @Ariel1039
      @Ariel1039 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ? So czechoslovak legion takes the entirety of Russia

    • @1stgenIbishupessima
      @1stgenIbishupessima Před 3 měsíci

      plot twist: Everything going well for czechoslovakia would mean it joining the intermarium

    • @patrikmodrovsky1842
      @patrikmodrovsky1842 Před 3 měsíci

      @@1stgenIbishupessima well, it would be nice, but there is some mutually exclusive nice things for Czechoslovakia and Poland

  • @hobolecho8507
    @hobolecho8507 Před 3 měsíci +24

    My dream came true. You made this video. Thank you. Cant wait for the PLC episode

  • @Junikowski_PL
    @Junikowski_PL Před 3 měsíci +35

    W Video, much respect from Poland🇵🇱

    • @mikebott6940
      @mikebott6940 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Polska Gurom !!!

    • @snowbrero5448
      @snowbrero5448 Před 3 měsíci +2

      how is this a good timeline for us we have less territories?

    • @Junikowski_PL
      @Junikowski_PL Před 3 měsíci

      @@snowbrero5448 Yes, there is a down side-however the Intermarium would be Polish dominated, and would be a stronger alliance than Poland could be without it-and definitely in the near future of this senario Poland would surely expand or unite with an Intermarium member👍🇵🇱

    • @Junikowski_PL
      @Junikowski_PL Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@snowbrero5448 But honestly, my timeline would look wayyy different to this one🇵🇱

    • @ColtThurston
      @ColtThurston Před 15 dny

      Comment "A" for poland.

  • @HimmyNeutron2714
    @HimmyNeutron2714 Před 3 měsíci +15

    FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO SPECIFICALLY

  • @jaydentruss6399
    @jaydentruss6399 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I've been waiting so long for this thank you

  • @AshiRonin
    @AshiRonin Před 3 měsíci

    Loved it! You nailed it!

  • @emolohtrab3468
    @emolohtrab3468 Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing video thanks

  • @nonmetaplayer4851
    @nonmetaplayer4851 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Finally I have been waiting for this video

  • @the_pinkerton
    @the_pinkerton Před 3 měsíci +4

    Finally, I've been waiting for this for years

  • @DiaberlyDiablo
    @DiaberlyDiablo Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love your vids man!

  • @user-nz2il9jh2w
    @user-nz2il9jh2w Před 3 měsíci +1

    amazing episode it was just perfect

  • @bulkax303
    @bulkax303 Před 3 měsíci +18

    There was actually a polish majority in a strip going to Latvia. They would probably demand a referendum or something

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You mean Lithuania?

    • @pep-qew1977
      @pep-qew1977 Před 3 měsíci +18

      ​@@goldenfiberwheat238no.
      From Belarusian Grodno to Lithuanian Vilnius ending in Latvian Dyneburg there is a strip of land with a lot of Poles

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@pep-qew1977 oh

    • @dominykasjonasblynas9312
      @dominykasjonasblynas9312 Před 2 měsíci

      The polish population was irrelevant considering the german and russian minorities in Latvia

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Před 3 měsíci +7

    Pretty good video. I'm looking forward to your coverage of the PLC. If I might offer some advice, I think that the best historians writing about this subject in English are Richard Butterwick and Robert Frost (not to be confused with the late American poet). Unfortunately, Frost is yet to finish writing _The Oxford History of Poland-Lithuania_ (fun fact: he's actually professor at the University of Aberdeen but Oxford approached him with this project as they don't have anyone nearly as competent in this area). There is just the first volume available, out of planed three.
    It would also be great if you'd get your hands on the English edition of currently the most comprehensive Polish synthesis of the subject: _History of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth: State - Society - Culture_ by Urszula Augustyniak (I understand it's a bit harder to get).

    • @jerzymarzec3386
      @jerzymarzec3386 Před 3 měsíci

      Poczytaj prac Norman Davis, historyk piszący o Polsce.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. Před 3 měsíci

      @@jerzymarzec3386 Oczywiście czytałem _Boże Igrzysko_ Daviesa. To klasyka, pionierska w przybliżaniu szerszemu światu ogólnego zarysu polskiej historii i w dawaniu Polakom ciekawego spojrzenia z zewnątrz na naszą historię, wciąż warta czytania. Ale nie powiedział bym, że Davies jest obecnie czołowym zachodnim specjalistą od dawnej Rzeczypospolitej.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Love your content!😊😊😊❤❤

  • @GigaChad777-cy7og
    @GigaChad777-cy7og Před 3 měsíci +66

    Im suprised you didn't add Hungary in the intermarium considering Poland and hungary were really close allies at the time to the point when hungary accepted polish refugees into hungary during ww2 during the invasion of poland

    • @Dread_2137
      @Dread_2137 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I think he viewed it as more of federation/union of slavs+balts, hungary is "too far" in terms of language. Tho in reality they could be included considering close ties and friendship between poland and hungary. Not only through WWII but in history in general, poland and hungary were close friends for centuries and even today.
      Both have "Day of Polish-Hungarian friendship" on Mar 23.
      There is even a proverb in both languages:
      Polak, Węgier - dwa bratanki,
      i do szabli, i do szklanki,
      oba zuchy, oba żwawi,
      niech im Pan Bóg błogosławi.
      Lengyel, magyar - két jó barát,
      Együtt harcol s issza borát,
      Vitéz s bátor mindkettője,
      Áldás szálljon mindkettőre.
      Pole, Hungarian - two brothers,
      both for the saber and the glass,
      both lad, both lively,
      may God bless them.

    • @Manetho76
      @Manetho76 Před 3 měsíci +28

      hungary wouldn't ally czechoslovakia, romania and yugoslavia without compensation, those are their geopolicial enemies

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 3 měsíci +11

      Exactly. Interwar Hungary really hated those three and no emotional pleas founded in Polish-Hungarian friendship will make Hungary drop its numerous claims against Intermarium members. Hungary was pretty much destined to be Germany's bitch with how much of a massive chip they had against the new order.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes Před 3 měsíci +4

      Hungary very much wanted its land back. Hence why it joined the Axis in WW2.

    • @yaboi3398
      @yaboi3398 Před měsícem

      hungary would probably have been in the alliance if romania and slovakia were willing to give Hungarian magority lands back,

  • @Astatine95
    @Astatine95 Před 3 měsíci +45

    It's funny how in this perfect scenario Poland somehow still ends up smaller in terms of territory than our counterpart.

    • @Szpareq
      @Szpareq Před 3 měsíci +12

      It's silly, yeah. I feel like there has been a big drop in quality of AH videos. His old ones were much better researched and much more plausible.

    • @fernandojosegonzalezolguin3481
      @fernandojosegonzalezolguin3481 Před 3 měsíci +38

      @@Szpareq wdym silly do you not know the meaning of diplomacy and compromises?

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 3 měsíci +43

      If territory was all that mattered then Russia would have always been an unbeatable behemoth. Geopolitics is not a map font size competition. This Poland may look smaller on the map but they're absolutely better off for dropping their neo-imperialist goal and founding a strong bloc against Nazi and Stalinist tyrannies instead. Hence, what if things went perfect for modern Poland.
      If you think it represents a big drop in quality of his videos then that's a very blatant You Problem and I'd suggest revising how you view history and global politics.

    • @Szpareq
      @Szpareq Před 3 měsíci +27

      @@gengarzilla1685 you miss one point, this union would be dominated by Ukrainians (twice as many people there when compared to Poland) who would lay claim to Eastern Poland. There is no such thing as gratitude in geopolitics and Ukrainians wouldn't give a shit about union as soon as Bolshevik threat was dealt with. Just look at the actions of current Ukrainian government - Polish actions saved Ukraine in 2022 and 2023, then Zelensky started screwing Poland over the trade deals. Ukrainians OTL committed genocide against Poles as soon as the Polish government disappeared and they justified it as a historical justice against their colonizers. This scenario is just flat out oversimplified.

    • @adamkowalski170
      @adamkowalski170 Před 3 měsíci +3

      what do you mean small? I think this pretty average size for coc.... I mean country

  • @karleriknelson8760
    @karleriknelson8760 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Good choice with the classical music for the background.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Amazing work as always! Please do this with britain! Starting with james i and vi

  • @santithelazy5340
    @santithelazy5340 Před 3 měsíci +18

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS !!!

  • @bambamgc2510
    @bambamgc2510 Před 3 měsíci

    Love the classical music in the background

  • @Mr_OogaBooga
    @Mr_OogaBooga Před 3 měsíci +101

    As a Polish Jew, I feel very patriotic rn
    POLSKAAA❤❤❤

    • @Areeb868
      @Areeb868 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Did you have to specify Jew or is it israel palestine thingy

    • @bungaboy3753
      @bungaboy3753 Před 3 měsíci +39

      @@Areeb868wtf are you talking about. They can say they are a Jew without it being something like that.

    • @user-xn7vs4tp9s
      @user-xn7vs4tp9s Před 3 měsíci +3

      Also saying your Jewish has nothing to do with that like a 50/50 split on either.

    • @SpicyCheeseAltHistory
      @SpicyCheeseAltHistory Před 3 měsíci +2

      Why do you have to mention your Jewish? It doesn’t matter in this situation

    • @TheEdgeOfUnknown
      @TheEdgeOfUnknown Před 3 měsíci

      @@Areeb868 brain rot

  • @ethanfranzen8684
    @ethanfranzen8684 Před 3 měsíci

    Let's keep going with this!

  • @Manu-ld4xc
    @Manu-ld4xc Před 3 měsíci +3

    I consider that spain would be an interesting choice of a perfect history video because of all of its history

  • @LeakyTrees
    @LeakyTrees Před 3 měsíci +10

    Part 2 would be sick

  • @wojciechdworzecki3807
    @wojciechdworzecki3807 Před 3 měsíci

    i was watching your other videos about what if everythng went perfect for countriesand thought that you probobabily didnt make a video about Poland and boom, you actually made it

  • @andreiangelian5189
    @andreiangelian5189 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Please do something about romania. You are my favourite alt history creator. I would love to see the same type of video about my country, since it also has quite tragic history

  • @FOX1MX
    @FOX1MX Před měsícem +1

    the idea of Poland liberating Finland and it joining the alliance is the most blurst thing ever and I'm all here for it

  • @Sully-pg5dh
    @Sully-pg5dh Před 3 měsíci +5

    You should do Canada next. I don't think my country gets enough recognition so it would be really cool to see a CZcams like you cover it.

    • @welshlout3400
      @welshlout3400 Před 3 měsíci +2

      There’s a couple of videos here that contain what if scenarios for Canada.

    • @Sully-pg5dh
      @Sully-pg5dh Před 3 měsíci +1

      @welshlout3400 I know but I just really like this guy so it would be pretty cool you know?

  • @jelen7217
    @jelen7217 Před 3 měsíci +31

    Hey possible history, I have an idea for you. I am from Czechia and I am mad, that my country was never an empire, so I would like to see a video, where everything will go perfectly for Czechia (if its possible). thank you :)

    • @Julianist
      @Julianist Před 3 měsíci +10

      The Hre was sometimes ruled in Prague but I get your point 🇩🇪❤️🇨🇿

    • @skeletalforce9673
      @skeletalforce9673 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Great Moravia maybe

    • @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508
      @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Wouldn't great moravia kinda count as "Czech empire"? I mean, it had Czech lands, was from Czech lands (moravia is like half of todays czechia) and was pretty big, maybe not "empire" like for example french, but still pretty signifficant kingdom looking at the region

    • @jeremirusin58
      @jeremirusin58 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Czechia (or maybe Bohemia, idk what's the right English version of medieval Czechia) was a very powerful country is 13th and 14th century. In 1260s and 1270s Przemyslid dynasty struggled with Arpads (Hungary) and Habsburgs for succesion of Babenbergs (modern Austria) and almost won (it took HRE for Habsburgs to defeat Przemysl Ottokar II). Then, in 1290-1300 period, Waclaw II, benefiting from crisis in Poland, which was splitted between rivalizing dukes, conquered most of Poland and in 1300 was crowned its king. Meanwhile, Hungarian Arpad dynasty died out and Waclaw's son, another Waclaw had pretty good chances of becomimg king of Hungary. Unfortunately for Czechia, Waclaw II died of illness and Waclaw III was assasinated, making him only king of Poland, who never was in Poland. Then, Luxembourg dynasty took over. Bohemia was still very strong and Charles IV, Holy Roman Emperor was Bohemian king. (This is actually really intresting, because during his reign, all three great medieval central European states - Bohemia, Hungary and Poland had fantastic monarchs, I'd argue two last their very best).

    • @werthor7083
      @werthor7083 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Do you really need an "empire"? Poland certainly not. And as a Pole I can't see the Czech Empire in my imagination. C'mon southern brother! We love you because you are normal. Not an imperial motherfuckers, but relaxed Czechs chilling with beer and knedliki.
      Western Slavs should create the Federal Republic of Poland-Czechia-Slovakia. Equal, friendly nations of people with the same ethnic roots.

  • @mistrzogrodnik
    @mistrzogrodnik Před 3 měsíci +1

    I adore the way other people pronounce polish names, just brings a smile to my face.

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji Před 3 měsíci

    Man i seriously wish for a part two as there is still so much to do in this

  • @marekcmonster1937
    @marekcmonster1937 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'd love to see this start at the beginning of Polish history

  • @damian4926
    @damian4926 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The most interesting alternative history scenario.

  • @gavinshultz443
    @gavinshultz443 Před 3 měsíci +2

    My favorite Dutchman uploads again

  • @OscarLikesArt
    @OscarLikesArt Před 3 měsíci +2

    It's BEAUTIFUL

  • @kevinboros7427
    @kevinboros7427 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I don't understand why most people say Poland was one of the "most unlucky nations". Like no, they were one of the most unlucky nations out of the lucky nations which are great powers today. The truly "unlucky" nations/peoples are those which you barely know of today, or nations that were never significant and never will be, or people who rule rump states about to be exterminated. Countries like Armenia, Palestine, most of the Balkans, Paraguay, North Korea, Eritrea (actually, many African states for obvious reasons), Kurdistan and many more come to mind. Poland, in comparison, has done extremely well, with the big exception being the Nazi occupation. But after it was all said and done, they took some extremely rich land from Germany and recovered fast, so it was not all doom and gloom (something the Armenians or the Palestinians cannot say).

    • @just_inker2584
      @just_inker2584 Před 3 měsíci

      What about Ukraine?

    • @kevinboros7427
      @kevinboros7427 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@just_inker2584 I consider Ukraine to have been way more unlucky than Poland, but their current day borders more than make up for it: second biggest nation in Europe behind Russia; emerged independent with land from most of its neighbors: Lviv from Poland, Transcarpathia from Slovakia/Hungary, North Bukovina/South Bessarabia from Romania, and Crimea from Russia.
      The country is very rich in natural resources and soil aswell.
      Ukraine has a lot of potential, and had the war with Russia not disrupted that, I would've considered them one of the most likely eastern nations to catch up to the west. Right now, Ukraine is doing badly, but if they survive the war, they'll continue going down the path I stated above.

    • @just_inker2584
      @just_inker2584 Před měsícem +1

      @@kevinboros7427 thank you for your opinion. Ukraine was one of the most powerful countries in Europe in 10th century, but since mongols invaded everything went wrong for the country.

  • @stanisawzokiewski3308
    @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 3 měsíci +12

    11:00 could make Lusatia independent and join the intermarium

  • @sabaurushadze1639
    @sabaurushadze1639 Před 3 měsíci

    GREAT VIDEO BROTHER

  • @kristianskoczylas5809
    @kristianskoczylas5809 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Impossible borders from Polish standpoint, Lwów and Stanisławów were centers of Polish culture and were in Poland for over 400 years at the time, no way we could ever voluntarily give these lands to states that havent existed at this point yet (Ukraine and Belarus).

  • @Cs4-Real
    @Cs4-Real Před 3 měsíci +2

    Poland being is very lucky compared to Sorbia so I want u to make a scenario for Sorbia where the Slavs of East Germany never got taken over by Germanic Tribes

  • @ColtThurston
    @ColtThurston Před 15 dny

    Austria-hungary: (collapses.)
    German empire: WHY am I unchained?? Was I not in the treaty?

  • @Colenin.
    @Colenin. Před 3 měsíci

    bro we will bring u to at least 250k this year

  • @DaBiggestBird256
    @DaBiggestBird256 Před 3 měsíci

    I feel like you should do one for Greece, lots of possibilities there.

  • @FloweryYonni
    @FloweryYonni Před 3 měsíci +1

    Awesome video as always! Could you perhaps talk about the consequences that would've happened if the Romanian rulers took up the crown of Bulgaria in the 19th century and then the Hungarian crown following ww1?

  • @G-Cole-01
    @G-Cole-01 Před 3 měsíci +1

    One interesting idea that I thought of a couple days ago was the idea for a challenge where one would get a couple other alternate history people together, and they're all given a point of divergence and an end point for a timeline, and they're each given a week to write out how the divergence would lead to said outcome (not like a full story or anything, just a set of relevant events) and are then judged based on how believable their timelines are.
    For example, one possible subject (albeit difficult) would be challenging them to write a believable timeline for how Kagamine Rin/Len becoming cultural icons instead of Hatsune Miku ends up resulting in global thermonuclear war by 2018.

  • @orangecitrus8056
    @orangecitrus8056 Před 3 měsíci +10

    For April Fools can you please do "what if everything went perfect for the Emus in Australia"

  • @beaglebango9191
    @beaglebango9191 Před 3 měsíci

    It'd be cool to continue this scenario.

  • @wizziamthegreat
    @wizziamthegreat Před 3 dny

    id ask for australia as a possible next ep given im australian, but the only major bonuses i can see giving them is unifying them with nz, giving them more pacfic islands, and more influence over indonesia. but france next would be good

  • @emayex74
    @emayex74 Před 3 měsíci +4

    suggestion: what if everything went perfect for spain? you havent done it yet so im hoping you will

  • @isaacskinner5565
    @isaacskinner5565 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Day 3 of asking for ‘what if everything went perfect for Australia’

    • @emayex74
      @emayex74 Před 3 měsíci +2

      a fellow aussie i see

    • @shrekthefunnyfacewhowrunghands
      @shrekthefunnyfacewhowrunghands Před 3 měsíci +1

      yes yes yes history never talks about australia

    • @isaacskinner5565
      @isaacskinner5565 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@shrekthefunnyfacewhowrunghands I’d love to see a video where Australia dominates the Pacific, it’d be similar to his Ethiopian video

  • @nicksyoutubechannel2632
    @nicksyoutubechannel2632 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like how at the end of the video it teased that Poland would still be partitioned

    • @welshlout3400
      @welshlout3400 Před 3 měsíci

      That’s for part 2, where Poland reveals its secret defense agreement with Japan, France miraculously grows a pair, and the partitioners become the partitionees.

  • @Gajus_Julius
    @Gajus_Julius Před 3 měsíci

    I would love to see video abou what if everything went perfect for Polish-Lituanian commonwealth next.

  • @KV-88
    @KV-88 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Wow I love this music. I know what it is.

  • @joshuaturpin7612
    @joshuaturpin7612 Před 3 měsíci

    need a part 2

  • @KarolBadowski
    @KarolBadowski Před 3 měsíci +2

    Not 1991, but 1989. I was born that day when we got independence. 4th of June 1989.
    Not 91.
    91 was in some other countries that got free from USSR. We were eralier. 1989

  • @joemoe1739
    @joemoe1739 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm waiting for how the Polish Commonwealth could survive. in the 18th century.

  • @nightblade9443
    @nightblade9443 Před 3 měsíci

    Yes bro I’m from Poland great video

  • @mariolacioek2451
    @mariolacioek2451 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Glory for the commonwealth!!!

  • @kokos742
    @kokos742 Před 3 měsíci

    2:08 what is that music? I often hear it in videos but dont know the name 😅

  • @t-uxe5539
    @t-uxe5539 Před 3 měsíci

    Do a part 2!!!

  • @andrew_wow6892
    @andrew_wow6892 Před 3 měsíci +3

    POLSKA GUROM 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱

  • @korynski
    @korynski Před 3 měsíci +3

    Thank you for this intro as a Pole ❤ But Poland break up from Communism in 1989, not 1991

  • @OneInchAsh
    @OneInchAsh Před 3 měsíci +16

    Those near-modern borders in the Eastern Europe after WW I are kind of ridiculous. Western parts (realistically, 1/3 to half) of Ukraine and Belarus were mainly populated by poles

    • @nacelnikprosiak1260
      @nacelnikprosiak1260 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Yes, most of that land had polish ethnic majority that's why in 1943 ukrainians genocided poles there so that germans would secure them ownership of that land after war, our lands in Lithuania and Belarus also were mainly polish, many "belarusians" didn't even call themself that and registered in population censuses as "Tutejszy"

    • @adamkowalski170
      @adamkowalski170 Před 3 měsíci

      Well, to be honest eastern part of II RP was very mixed up in terms of ethnicity. If we assume borders from this video there still would be a large number of Polish people living in Volhynia, Stanisławów, Vilnius, Nowogródek and so on. I believe that in order to keep peace in Intermarium Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania should arranged some kind of population exchange, because in other scenario every country that i meantioned before could always demand some of neghbiour land. Furthermore, it doesn't matter how eastern Europe would settle their borders, because there always would be some minority that is going to be unsatisfied. I think that the best opportunity to make such exchange was after Polish-German war. Poland could annexed rest of Silesia and Prussia in order to move people from Vilnus to Królewiec (Kalinigrad) and Polish people from Ukraine to Wrocław. In that case eastern Polish border would be justified, because i think it include Lwów, Grodno and Brześć which were cities ethnicly Polish. Furthermore I would suggest one more idea. After Polish-German war I would establish Jewish state in Pomerania and Lubusz. Since times of PLC there was a large number of Jewish people living in Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania. Some part of them embraced Polish nationality, but some part of them wiew themself as completly diffrent nation, that has right to self governance and they had very difficult relations with Polish people. So to erradicate tention such country would be usefull as place in Europe where Jewish people from Poland, Ukriane,Belarus, Germany, France could migrate if their not see themself as citizen of country of origin.

    • @nacelnikprosiak1260
      @nacelnikprosiak1260 Před 3 měsíci

      @@adamkowalski170 How would polish goverment justify forcefull relocation of 100s of thousands of polish people from their homeland, Also reminder that before WW1 ukrainians didn't have ethnic majority in most regions that are modern west ukraine, that is because there were also ruthenians there, only when combining ruthenians and ukrainians you could get more ethnicy over poles, it all changed after ukrainians genocides poles and ruthenians in 1943 with help of the germans and then after war made deal with Stalin to force all remaining poles to move to new polish lands in germany and rest of ruthenians to western belarus

  • @odyga8330
    @odyga8330 Před 3 měsíci

    Man, it would be so interesting to see my country in that way.

  • @Musketmaster101
    @Musketmaster101 Před měsícem

    What program do you use to change/color your maps?

  • @floor737
    @floor737 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Norway next?
    (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

    • @Mussolina
      @Mussolina Před 3 měsíci

      Idk when will what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario start

  • @Tom-jg9de
    @Tom-jg9de Před 3 měsíci

    YEA BABY THAT WHAT I WAITET FOR

  • @toniee98
    @toniee98 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I want to see a video about what if everything went perfect for Brazil, basically a remake of the "What if Brazil wasn't poor?" video, but with more border changes

  • @rabbit0005
    @rabbit0005 Před 3 měsíci

    Yay finnaly

  • @zukzbigniew4802
    @zukzbigniew4802 Před 3 měsíci +1

    5:49 Nice, the Polish government just left 4-5 million Poles outside of thier state.

  • @DaRealKakarroto
    @DaRealKakarroto Před 3 měsíci +1

    If everything went perfect for Possible History, he wouldn't have had an intermission right at the end of the video.

  • @Polish_Mapping0
    @Polish_Mapping0 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Poland: Everything is perfect here...

  • @surfaced-1996
    @surfaced-1996 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Please do "What if everything went Perfect for Romania" it would be a great continuation for Eastern Europe "what if"s

  • @sentient3408
    @sentient3408 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think your off when it comes to German rearmament. If Czechoslovakia.was in the alliance and the Germans began to threaten invasion the Czechoslovakians would completely destroy them. In our timeline if not for the British and French intervention the the Czechoslovakians would have completely beat back the Germans the British and French interference prompted them to give up all their fortifications.

  • @Xenion_jeux
    @Xenion_jeux Před 3 měsíci +2

    Video idea : What if history went perfect for the visigothic kingdom (or if he survived)

  • @celdur4635
    @celdur4635 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You needed to do a bit more research on this one. Poland actually got almost all of Belarus and Ukraine in RL, including Minsk and Kiev and more, however the ultra nationalists Pole faction dominated the negotiations and actually REJECTED the USSR's offer, since they only wanted Pole and "polonizable" regions.

  • @OskarW57
    @OskarW57 Před 3 měsíci

    Can't wait for the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth episode

  • @ShackleYT
    @ShackleYT Před 3 měsíci +5

    In this timeline, i could see something very interesting happening after the polish intervention.
    At this point, germany would still be in massive economic debt, and if nothing changes on the map, then morale will plummet. So, the leaders of germany might be inclined to change these things. Here's the plan. they'd trade land to have their debt forgiven, and possibly have some land returned to them.
    specifically, with poland, germany could offer all of Koninsberg in return for the return of danzig and forgiveness of the debt imposed by the versailles treaty. Poland might go for this, since danzig was a major problem at that point, it would get them similar access to the baltic sea and they wouldn't have to deal with the issues of only having 1 port. Everyone wins in this scenario, but poland wins the most because now they don't have an awkward border with germany, and it would be more difficult for germany to invade as a result.
    I love this alternate timeline btw, i hope you make more of them! Specifically, i'd love to know what would have happened if the benelux had the best case scenario. would they try to acquire the rhineland or would they side with germany in order to secure french territory? i'm super interested to see your take on the idea.

    • @yaboi3398
      @yaboi3398 Před měsícem

      at the time gdańsk (danzig) was mixed with german and polish citizens, if poland gave it up for the 95 percent german Konigsberg then they would have a very rebellious and also nazi germany would NEVER wilfully secede any land to poland especially all of konisberg, laybe a lighter version of your ideas would have happened if the polish german war was such a humiliation to hitler and his party that the Weimar republic (or atleast some kind of democratic germany possibly even SPD led but still democratic laybe something like a social democracy) would take charge and give land for the forgiveness of their debts

  • @Wojciech940
    @Wojciech940 Před 3 měsíci

    The perfect scenario need to address Polish internal issues. It took 6 months to foreign occupation to happen since Declaration of Independence which granted equality hence reducing priviledges of noblemen who in response complained to Russia.
    Live an Apartheit that may or may not lead to prosperity or witness the crumble that already have

  • @Kiddo5010
    @Kiddo5010 Před 3 měsíci

    Venditis did this video and i can say i love this idea

  • @i47cats
    @i47cats Před 3 měsíci

    Need part 2

  • @edgareliseev1773
    @edgareliseev1773 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Poland is like the kid who peaked in their teen years.

  • @Zirtip
    @Zirtip Před 3 měsíci

    best timeline ever

  • @bagrbagrovsky
    @bagrbagrovsky Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would realy like if you do "what if everthink went perfect for Bohemia or Czechoslovakia. I think that could be interestink

  • @DamorkaDalilla
    @DamorkaDalilla Před 2 měsíci

    I would love to see Polish-Lithuanian common wealth succeed episode

  • @LemonSaber
    @LemonSaber Před 3 měsíci

    Nice

  • @chirilafilip3212
    @chirilafilip3212 Před 3 měsíci

    LOVE from Romania

  • @ciandoyle3315
    @ciandoyle3315 Před 3 měsíci

    its beautiful

  • @cs0345
    @cs0345 Před 3 měsíci

    My two main issues with this scenario is the unlikeliness of Poland invading Germany, possibly starting WW2 earlier, and losing support of the eastern Intermarium countries, and not annexing more Ukrainian territories with significant Polish populations

  • @dragon-ksp
    @dragon-ksp Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hell yeah