I just made two 12 round flush fits into 14 round flush fits for a 365xl and I couldn't be happier! Every once in a while a person within a company has a great idea and a great product is born! Thanks for the video! I was worried the flat springs would wear out quickly, now I'm not.
Appreciate the update many tuber channels rarely will follow up on third party upgrades. This video helped me to finally pull the trigger and purchase this product.
Just got mine for my p365. I am worried about using it when I carry. Will still test it myself but this made me feel better about their product. Thanks a bunch for the update my friend! Keep it going dude!!!
I just did too for my 10 rd. From what I can tell they work great. I’m just concerned because what made sig not go with this design if it’s clearly better? I’m going with it anyways. Might get one on my 12 rd eventually too. I already only carry my 10 with the pinky extension and the 12 as a back up. Sometimes I carry the 12 with the 15 or 10 as a backup. I just love seeing people say that this is pointless because they make factory 12 and 15 mags and they think $33 isn’t worth it. They seem to forget that this saves you from buying an extra mag for $50 and you save some valuable real estate that sig doesn’t offer. I’m gonna try it on my 10 rd flush because I don’t even use it because it’s too small. I’ll definitely be testing it a bunch though. I’ve heard nothing but good stuff about magguts though so I think they’re gtg.
I just installed one in my P365's 12 rounders. Any update on your experience over the last 2 months? I'm thinking about getting 1 more for another 12, to replace the annoyingly lengthy 15 rounder I carry in my back pocket with a shorter 12+2, since the 15 doesn't work that well in the NeoMag clip I use. I think I can manage with 12+2+2 plus 12+2. If I can't get the job done with 30, 1 more isn't going to matter much. Assuming they work.
@@richardefriend It's worked flawlessly. However after about a month of use, about 300 or so rounds. I've switched to the Icarus XL grip. So now it just sits in my case. The XL fits better in my hands so I may never have a use for it. I am debating getting the +2 for the XL 12 rounder now 🙃
I just added the +2 to my G43. Same length (maybe a little less) than the Pierce +1 extensions I’ve been using. Haven’t been able to shoot it yet but I manually cycled through the whole mag several times and there was no issue.
I have the original Magguts springs for the Shield. Those are probably 4-5 years old. I also have the newer Z springs. These have been used in my 5 magazines extensively. I shoot my own 125 grain loads. I used to shoot a few times a week, but the past couple of years only once a month. I have not had one issue over these years using these springs. They feed reliably and lock the slide back every-time. I'm actually to the point that I am a little concerned that after all these years the original Maggut springs are still functioning perfectly. I should probably reach out to them to find out what he life expectancy of their springs are. It behooves me why S&W isn't using this same technology in their mags.
liability. traditional springs can last forever. magguts might last a long time, but they can fail. that's why no gun manufacturer will ever use the types of spring magguts uses
Standard springs absolutely do not last forever. I have to replace every 4 years or so when double feeds occur. So far, I haven't had to replace any z springs.
I bought 2 of the Sig Sauer P365 conversion kits to covert the 10 round mag to a 12 and the 12 round mag to a 14. So, far they have functioned perfectly and seem t load a bit easier than with the factory spring. They do add about a 1/2 inch to the length of the grip though, which is fine if you have big hands like me.
I have them on my Performance Center Shield 9mm with ported barrel. I converted 3 8rd mags. One mag is now 9rds and the other two are both 10rd mags. The one 9rd mag is the same length as the factory 8rd mag for carry. I save the other two 10rd mags for back up. Great summer carry. No issues.
I bought the Magguts Smith & Wesson BG380 MagGuts CVN023 for S&W Bodyguard .380. It intermittently jams on the last round or two. Tested several types of ammo, all of which work 100% with factory mags. My experience was it's total junk.
I carry the 7 round with the +2 magguts. I pocket carry and the 8 round mag is too big. Never a problem. I'll also carry my bodyguard .380 with magguts +1 in the 6 round mag. Also zero issues.
I just upgraded 2 of my 12 rd xl mags, it added exactly an 1/8 of an inch. I think anyone can live with that. I still won't use them when I carry until I performance test them at the range, but so far so good
Have you had any issues now that it’s been years later? Thinking about getting one for the 7 rounder to make it 9. Heard it’s smaller than the 8. Then maybe the spring only to bring 8 to a 9 also
That poor extractor! Extractors aren't designed to bend around the brass... if you're going to do +1, insert the mag, rack the slide then eject the mag, and top it off. You will get failure to eject if you keep doing +1 that way.
What irritates me is why they don't make a spring kit for hellcat mags, the most efficient magazines of all 9mm handguns. Well technically the glock26 has the best tightly packed magazine but it's so damn fat that it's not as viable compared to the new age of micros. Stoeger has also been able to match the hellcat. P365 loses but with the mag guts it's able to match the hellcat. Kahr x9 is making a pistol now that takes both 365 and hellcat mags. Guessing it uses a modular adapter
I've seen many posts about nose diving rounds with these. It's a genius idea but poorly executed. The geometry of the follower should have been kept exactly the same as the oem one. Idk what they were thinking.
Was going to sell my gen 1 performance center for the shield plus but it would be way easier to just do this and get that 10 rounds. Where's the best place to buy this kit? Do they sell these anywhere else besides their website? $37 for a spring and plastic extender seems kind of pricey. Ever any sales?
Works well with our G43, although the MC1Sc, which takes G43 ags, does not like MagGuts. Seems a slight difference in the slide's cartridge ramp on the Mossberg is the issue. czcams.com/video/oaSejTZGjzM/video.html
I had'a dream of combinin Magguts (+1 in .40) w/Strike +1, in my Shield .40, but, alas, she wun't run, in this entirely unsupported (By either mfgr!) configuration. (Failure to go into battery/nose-divin...) Magguts don't maka dedicated .40 spring, n I suspect tha "1 size fits all" spring, don't quite have enuff "oomph" required, for tha heavier .40SW round. Given tha declinin popularity of .40, don't see this changin, anytime soon...
Great follow up on the MagGuts springs! Thank you! Probably the only MagGuts follow up video on the the net.
got 3 of these for my p365, 12 to 14 rounds, shot over 6000 rounds, not a single failure, all work flawlessly.
Have used +2 extensions on several of my guns and have found them to be 100% reliable. Keep up the good work!
I just made two 12 round flush fits into 14 round flush fits for a 365xl and I couldn't be happier! Every once in a while a person within a company has a great idea and a great product is born!
Thanks for the video! I was worried the flat springs would wear out quickly, now I'm not.
Can confirm.
I have had the Magguts +2 in my Gen 1 Shield for about 4 years. It has worked flawlessly.
Thanks for the update. I just installed them on my gen 1 Performance Center Shield. I ran 100 rds through it at the range. It worked flawlessly.
Appreciate the update many tuber channels rarely will follow up on third party upgrades. This video helped me to finally pull the trigger and purchase this product.
Thanks
I just bought some +2 for my mags. Shield 2.0 is still my favorite carry pistol
Just got mine for my p365. I am worried about using it when I carry. Will still test it myself but this made me feel better about their product. Thanks a bunch for the update my friend! Keep it going dude!!!
I just did too for my 10 rd. From what I can tell they work great. I’m just concerned because what made sig not go with this design if it’s clearly better? I’m going with it anyways. Might get one on my 12 rd eventually too. I already only carry my 10 with the pinky extension and the 12 as a back up. Sometimes I carry the 12 with the 15 or 10 as a backup. I just love seeing people say that this is pointless because they make factory 12 and 15 mags and they think $33 isn’t worth it. They seem to forget that this saves you from buying an extra mag for $50 and you save some valuable real estate that sig doesn’t offer. I’m gonna try it on my 10 rd flush because I don’t even use it because it’s too small. I’ll definitely be testing it a bunch though. I’ve heard nothing but good stuff about magguts though so I think they’re gtg.
I just installed one in my P365's 12 rounders. Any update on your experience over the last 2 months? I'm thinking about getting 1 more for another 12, to replace the annoyingly lengthy 15 rounder I carry in my back pocket with a shorter 12+2, since the 15 doesn't work that well in the NeoMag clip I use. I think I can manage with 12+2+2 plus 12+2. If I can't get the job done with 30, 1 more isn't going to matter much. Assuming they work.
@@richardefriend It's worked flawlessly. However after about a month of use, about 300 or so rounds. I've switched to the Icarus XL grip. So now it just sits in my case. The XL fits better in my hands so I may never have a use for it. I am debating getting the +2 for the XL 12 rounder now 🙃
I just added the +2 to my G43. Same length (maybe a little less) than the Pierce +1 extensions I’ve been using. Haven’t been able to shoot it yet but I manually cycled through the whole mag several times and there was no issue.
Taking the time to follow up earned you a sub.
I have the original Magguts springs for the Shield. Those are probably 4-5 years old. I also have the newer Z springs. These have been used in my 5 magazines extensively. I shoot my own 125 grain loads. I used to shoot a few times a week, but the past couple of years only once a month. I have not had one issue over these years using these springs. They feed reliably and lock the slide back every-time. I'm actually to the point that I am a little concerned that after all these years the original Maggut springs are still functioning perfectly. I should probably reach out to them to find out what he life expectancy of their springs are. It behooves me why S&W isn't using this same technology in their mags.
liability. traditional springs can last forever. magguts might last a long time, but they can fail. that's why no gun manufacturer will ever use the types of spring magguts uses
@@cagneybillingsley2165 traditional gun springs don't last forever. Every manufacturer's springs have a determined life expectancy.
Standard springs absolutely do not last forever. I have to replace every 4 years or so when double feeds occur. So far, I haven't had to replace any z springs.
I bought 2 of the Sig Sauer P365 conversion kits to covert the 10 round mag to a 12 and the 12 round mag to a 14. So, far they have functioned perfectly and seem t load a bit easier than with the factory spring. They do add about a 1/2 inch to the length of the grip though, which is fine if you have big hands like me.
I have them on my Performance Center Shield 9mm with ported barrel. I converted 3 8rd mags. One mag is now 9rds and the other two are both 10rd mags. The one 9rd mag is the same length as the factory 8rd mag for carry. I save the other two 10rd mags for back up. Great summer carry. No issues.
It's a 2.0 Shield.
Agree 100% works perfectly for me too!
I bought the Magguts Smith & Wesson BG380 MagGuts CVN023 for S&W Bodyguard .380. It intermittently jams on the last round or two. Tested several types of ammo, all of which work 100% with factory mags. My experience was it's total junk.
Just installed Magguts' 15 round extensions on my Shield Plus mags today. Glad to hear your experience with them has been good.
I carry the 7 round with the +2 magguts. I pocket carry and the 8 round mag is too big. Never a problem. I'll also carry my bodyguard .380 with magguts +1 in the 6 round mag. Also zero issues.
I just upgraded 2 of my 12 rd xl mags, it added exactly an 1/8 of an inch. I think anyone can live with that. I still won't use them when I carry until I performance test them at the range, but so far so good
Thank you for testing it at the range.
Great video and thank you for making it I’ve been considering getting one of these!
Buying some today thanks.
I just bought a 8 + 1 MagMuts for my shield
Check my install video...it's a task.
Have you had any issues now that it’s been years later? Thinking about getting one for the 7 rounder to make it 9. Heard it’s smaller than the 8. Then maybe the spring only to bring 8 to a 9 also
That poor extractor! Extractors aren't designed to bend around the brass... if you're going to do +1, insert the mag, rack the slide then eject the mag, and top it off. You will get failure to eject if you keep doing +1 that way.
Great vid!
Thanks for the update and review. It was very helpful. Subscribed!
I wished you would've stood the mags up next to each other so we could've clearly seen the size difference.
Thanks
What irritates me is why they don't make a spring kit for hellcat mags, the most efficient magazines of all 9mm handguns. Well technically the glock26 has the best tightly packed magazine but it's so damn fat that it's not as viable compared to the new age of micros.
Stoeger has also been able to match the hellcat.
P365 loses but with the mag guts it's able to match the hellcat. Kahr x9 is making a pistol now that takes both 365 and hellcat mags. Guessing it uses a modular adapter
My carry magazine which is an eight rounder with a +2 from Magguts with
I've seen many posts about nose diving rounds with these. It's a genius idea but poorly executed. The geometry of the follower should have been kept exactly the same as the oem one. Idk what they were thinking.
Great vid. So this mag extend works on the 2.0 shield as well?
Was going to sell my gen 1 performance center for the shield plus but it would be way easier to just do this and get that 10 rounds. Where's the best place to buy this kit? Do they sell these anywhere else besides their website? $37 for a spring and plastic extender seems kind of pricey. Ever any sales?
Do you have the original all metal followers? I noticed the current M&P shield products on their website have polymer followers.
Funny question, I saw the mag guts baggie for the old mags in a drawer....I will have to look when I get home.
Thanks!
I can hear your stomach growling 😂 at the beginning
Works well with our G43, although the MC1Sc, which takes G43 ags, does not like MagGuts. Seems a slight difference in the slide's cartridge ramp on the Mossberg is the issue.
czcams.com/video/oaSejTZGjzM/video.html
I had'a dream of combinin Magguts (+1 in .40) w/Strike +1, in my Shield .40, but, alas, she wun't run, in this entirely unsupported (By either mfgr!) configuration. (Failure to go into battery/nose-divin...) Magguts don't maka dedicated .40 spring, n I suspect tha "1 size fits all" spring, don't quite have enuff "oomph" required, for tha heavier .40SW round. Given tha declinin popularity of .40, don't see this changin, anytime soon...
What the hell is “weekend carry”?
Still have th s&w9?
Is this California legal?
Not sure about the laws in Cali. It makes it a 10 round magazine so maybe.
@@geoff_tac the same +2 kit works on both 7 & 8 round mags?
@@andytorres7990 +2 only works on the 8 rounders. There is a +1 option for the 7 rounders.
@@andytorres7990 +2 works on both 7 and 8 round magazines for the shield, I put the +2 on my 7 round magazine. It works great!
@@MiguelRodriguez-tm2yc does the +2 on your 7 round mag add any height to the gun ? Or is it still flush ?
First!
Let’s take a moment to celebrate that sheep can carry guns… 2:59 tell me your a cuck without saying your a cuck
Way toooo muuch BS!.....stick to the point of the video!
You're welcome!
@@geoff_tac Awesome 😎