BMW 530d F11 BROKEN TIMING CHAIN - Part 2: DIY Removing the Gearbox ZF8HP70
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2019
- As part 2 of my project to repair the damage from my broken timing chain I have decided to approach the timing cover from underneath, which means removing the transmission.
This is not easy, but it is possible to do at home... you just need to be prepared for the work & plan everything out to remain safe.
This is not a ‘how to’ but more of an example of how I am doing it, so please do not blindly follow anything from my videos. You must do your own research & do not tackle any job unless you are comfortable you have the knowledge & equipment to do it. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
You're an absolute legend doing this on your drive with regular tools and improvising! Massive respect for tackling this man 👍🏻
I was about to write RESPECT but no need because you covered that part ☺️👍
Respect for tackling such job on you driveway!
👍👍👍👍
Taking everything off is always the easiest part of any job. Puting everything back together where you can seperate mens from boys! Still, good job, there are alot of people who couldnt this job even with proper car lift, gearbox holder and etc tools. This is a proper DIY. I take my hat off for you doing this on driveway.
I remains to be seen if I’m a man or a boy on this job yet... still loads of work left. Unfortunately I have to do it bit-by-bit around my day job, which slows it down a lot too ☹️
@@Nut_Job. that is what makes this job even more nuts, I can totally understand you. It would be a lot easier just to let someone else do this job for you, but where this the fun part after that?
Take my hat off to you. You should have earned the respect of every you tuber watching these videos. Superb quality and information in them Thank you.
Biggest balls on YT..?
Massive respect fella..😉
Well done for tackling that job , it’s great to see some old fashioned ingenuity and common sense
I wouldn’t know where to start doing a job like that! Impressed at your determination in such cramped conditions. I do know that my wife would go bananas if I ever tried anything like this on the drive. Oils everywhere and the mess! I would be kicked out of my home! Never the less you are an inspiration for all those who think ‘ I can’t do that!’
Good video. Nasty job to have to tackle. Especially without the use of a ramp and decent access. Big pat on the back for tackling it yourself😊😊
Hats off for doing this on your driveway! I admire your talent and patience. 😊
Huge respect to you for taking this on. Loving your clips.
HELLO AGAIN MY BOY, I SAY AGAIN WELL DONE FOR HAVING A GO! AND MOST IMPORTANT, HAVING THE SENSE TO UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY ASPECT OF IT! I'M SURE YOU WILL SUCCEED! AND THINK OF THE MONEY YOU ARE SAVING TOO! AND YOUR LUCKY TO HAVE THE WEATHER ON YOUR SIDE. GOOD LUCK, AND STAY SAFE.
Awesome job, you didn't deserve the bad luck with the chain going ... but very proud of what you are doing 👍
Tough times never last...
But tough people do 💪😉
Nut Job hey sir i have some questions for
You ?
Top man and there was me thinking the egr valve was a monster of a job for you to do you got my utter respect for tackling this job your my #1 you tuber at the min always look forward to watching your videos
Cheers pal. I won’t lie though... I will actually cry on camera if it won’t start up after all this! 😂
I’ve got everything crossed for you mate from the past videos I’m sure you will succeed in this repair just keep taking breaks and take your time and don’t cut corners else it will come back to bite you
Nut Job only real men cry those who say they don't lie. Best uk you tuber by far!
i admire your skill, knowledge, nerves and bravery. mad respect mate, thanks for the video.
To say I'm impressed is a severe understatement. I have an E60 myself, and I know how these things are nailed together. And to tackle it on your driveway. Legend. Hat tipped and a sub from me. Carry on sir!
Hats off to you nut job 👍 given me the incentive to drop my e46 auto box for access to the rear crankshaft seal.
Hi nut job 😁 I’m so glad your taking on this job yourself and sharing it on CZcams 👍🏻 I admire your enthusiasm and dedication on the drive and a set of ordinary tools 🤣 Well done to your neighbors for helping you as if I was local I’d come and help if only making brews 🤣🤣 Stevie 😎
I know it was manual and yours is auto but I changed the clutch and flywheel on a e60 530d and made the mistake of not taking notice of where the flywheel was positioned as there was a few positions you could refit it as I didn’t now , long story short put all back together and wouldn’t start , eventually on live data noticed the flywheel sensor (magic eye was saying incorrect signal (put new flywheel back on in incorrect position 😩, boss wasn’t happy , lesson learnt lol .anyway give ya self a pat on the back for progress so far , big ups 👍
Luckily on this one the flywheel has one extra ‘hole’ around the ring of bolts so it can only go back on one way. Weirdly though, there are 2 similar looking holes around the edge to lock it at cyl 1 TDC & I only realised because I took a peek at the cylinders... only to see piston 1 nowhere near TDC! 😬
Think I’ve got the right one now though...
Nut Job that’s good then,sadly I learnt the hard way ,but only done it once ,after that I learnt very quickly on the 2nd one lol
You’ve just gained a new subscriber. You’ve got mad balls to try this at home! Happy the timing chain is in the front on my N57 X5 👍
Are you sure?....
Nut Job *M57, apologies!
Fair play to you attempting this.Hope it all goes well.
This is great entertainment and thoughtfully presented. Can't wait to see how you get that back up there!
Me too 😂
Doing a great job, the regular "thumbs up" made me laugh. It's all looking very positive so far, only problem I can see is hiding all the oil spots on the driveway from your missus
I’ll be investing in some very serious degreaser to tackle that... 😬
Well done. Keep it
Up. Looking forward to
future updates.
I am massively impressed. Jolly well done sir. Hat doffed
Mad respect man. This is incredible
Normally I would never look at a video about bmw! But I just have to say that you are very entertaining to watch! I have most of the tools and a garage, but I wouldnt do this project! Subscribed!
R.S.P.C.T to you! What a bloody legend. Atleast it happened when the weather was nice? Also you said you were going to service the gearbox anyway! Should be a hell of a lot easier now. Just think how much money you’ve saved
Balls of steel .... big respect ✊
Well you have my Respect 👍 And your so calm. Im used to cussing and throwing stuff😜 But now im going to remain Calm and organized👍 i still owe alot on my car and only 105k miles. So you SIR have motivated me to Fix this myself and get back on the Road👍 Notice how he emphasized SAFETY FIRST, easy to get hurt. Ive witnessed people getting smashed under cars so i always use extra jacks/stands👍
Great work mate superb job. At least you know its been done properly.
Great job mate so far. One thing i would say is don't rely on tyres to hold a car up while you are under it. If a tyre was to deflate it only takes a couple of inches to do some serious damage to you. Try to put axle stands onto rigid parts of the underbody such as subframes etc. Car ramps are fine just use some axle stands too as backup.
Have done several of these on a ramp. Great respect to you 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Amazing is all I can say! You push the limit for DIY:ers by lightyears 👍😃
Good for you. It looks safe enough. I hope it is.
Mate you are working at God level, ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻
Congratulations! It looks so difficult from that position to take it out. My concern will be how to put it back from lying position, but you have probably idea :) Looking forward fot next video, wish you good luck!
fair play mate doing this on your drive, much respect !!
Only the braves!!! Bravo ottimo lavoro, senza il ponte sollevatore è veramente un lavoro di passione....💪💪💪👍👍👍
Excellent work
I did standard ones in my driveway but not a automatic congrats cheers mate!
Dud you are awesome, this is a big Project and a pain in a... Respect.
Cheers man 👍
Phenomenal job! While you're in there replace the engine rear main seal, question what year this this 5 series?
It’s a 2012 F11 👍
often i come to here, and wach your great job that i can not try.
Top work.
you've earnt youself a new subscriber
Good job doing that on your drive!
You are hero:) what i want to do last 6 month today i m sure i can do it thank you alot for video
Interesting.. I’m tempted to put a new torque converter in my E53 X5 and this is giving me inspiration. Although I have been quoted only £600 + vat by a trans specialist so I’m not sure if it’s worth the agro just to save a few hundred pounds.
To be honest, I would just pay them to do that. It would be sooo much easier on a 4 post lift, so they’d do it pretty quickly too I bet. I was on the fence for a few days about whether to drop the trans or hire a hoist to get the engine out... I wouldn’t say it’s complicated, just hard work 😓
Wow fair play to you for doing it urself you have a great head and courage 👍👍👍
Hats off to you Bro!!!!!
Absolte madness, I love it! This really puts a lot of fellas to shame :) Also gives us regular NPCs courage.
Ok I put my hand up... when you said don't laugh I was actually laughing.... sorry..... jokes aside amazing job amazing skills
Just great video help me out a lot!!!!!
Great video.
Good work m8
Very well done.
Like me i did cylinderhead gasket and bend inlet valves timingchain on vw Golf mk5 1.4fsi on a parkinglot and car runs again
Top Man!
Well done mate
Great video
Very impressed you took this job on. What are your thoughts on the dampers with sport/comfort settings. My E61 doesn't have that and I am looking to trade up.
your brave for doing this outside, every time i decide to work on my car, it............rains
Well first what a memory remembering where all the nut and bolts go, brilliant engineer and very patient ! not a lot of people would even attempt this let alone on your drive. I could have done the same but what am I supposed to do with the 50 spare nuts and bolts that are left over ?
There’s always few ‘spare’ bits left over aren’t there... 😂
Nice vid. How do you have the knowledge to tackle these jobs? Have you been a car mechanic in the past or do you just pick it up as you go along kind of thing?
I’ve no idea what I’m doing mate... 😂
I just learn as I go with my cars really. I tend to buy a car for a year or 2, learn a bit by doing jobs & then move onto something new. Learning as you go can be scary, but I find that I tend to learn better under pressure 🤷♂️
Nut Job
That is the best way to learn
What a guy
Why don't you donwload ISTA+ from internet and by enet cable? Besides diagnostic you will have detailed instructions how to disassemble everything, bolt torq spec and all the required procedures. I think putting back is much more difficult as you will have to follow rules now.
The power of neighbours
Did you get it sorted? What was most difficult in that process? Tnx
dropping trans on ramps in driveway... next level insanity DIY right here...
😂
Love it.
Lovely Jubbly, one brave man, are you going to keep the car when you've completed the work? I can't imagine a harder job on a car.
I feel like I’m going to keep it a while now - I’ll make it pay for itself!
Unless something else ‘catastrophic’ happens... 😬
Where do you get your info from, Ie timing tools, tightening torques timing marks. Thanks
I am supriesed by you did you bring this gearbox down your self? I have done this on a lift with 3 men!!!
Hi Nut hope you are ok plz I need the full procedure to rebuild f10 520 d diesel engine
Warm regards
Very interesting
Hi, first of all congratulations! You did a great job!
I’m doing a similar job on my car and just wanted to ask if you changed the transmission oil filter when putting it back together? Do you think the transmission oil filter/oil pan be damaged due to the weight of the transmission and need to be changed? Many thanks
Yes, I did change the ATF filter pan. Not because of the weight though - it should be completely fine to sit on its belly-pan. Considering it’s mileage it just seemed a good idea to renew the fluid & filter as part of the job 👍
Thank you so much for your help! Really appreciate it!
Should have pulled the engine and trans as one unit. Fixed it then slipped it back in.
Please put in description how many km/mi is on this chain!?
Aren't you afraid that piston rods are bent a little as well? Damage pistons? Is there any possibility of small cracks which can lead to a failure in the future?
After a close visual inspection the cylinders look completely fine. The rocker arms work in a ‘sacrificial’ manor in the event of a piston strike so there is no significant shock transferred to the con rods & crankshaft
WOW. Thats impressive! One question. Why did you have to drain transmission fluid?
2 reasons:
Firstly because it reduced the weight of the transmission I was lowering.
Secondly because I also wanted to replace the fluid because it had covered over 160k miles from new.
This idea of ‘sealed for life’ transmission fluids is a terrible idea so I wanted to refresh it & replace the filter pan too 👍
To take the starter motor off how many bolts was it ? Was it difficult
It’s only 3 bolts & it’s very easy. Obviously there’s the plastic under-trays to remove first, but they only take 10 mins to remove. Then there’s just 2 electrical connectors & it’s off 👍
Hat off to you, no doubt about it ! But having gone trough this experience, working after coming from work, arguments with missus etc, would you do it again or would you give it away to a garage to do it and pay for it ? I know doing the usual diy at your car feels rewarding but in this case it was quite an extreme
It was quite an extreme repair, no doubt about that. The problem is that it just doesn’t make sense to pay perhaps £3k to repair a car I bought for £5k, and will never really be worth much more than that... I really wouldn’t fancy doing the job again, but if I had to I would. I could also probably do it twice as fast now too 😀😂
Thanks for coming back, you are really brave. I am the same but I have got to learn from you. best wishes
Well done for this job ! Have you replaced the seal of torque converter shaft when assembly ?
Actually no I didn’t 😬
@@Nut_Job. Ok no signs of leaking ?
No, mine was completely fine. I was also very careful when removing & re-fitting it too 👍
Hi.
And the reason for the chain to broke was?
High mileage?
I have E36 and i have read that 300k km is good time to replace timing chain and all the related parts.
I have 314000 km and i haven't done this.
But i see that chain is stretched out. Timing cant be aligned according to arrows. But car works ok.
M43 engine, car 1996, engine 1.6
Reason i haven't done this is that i want a newer car with automatic transmission and with more powerful engine
They made things properly back in the 90’s by all accounts.... If you’ve done 300k on a chain then I think you’ve had good performance - probably worth thinking about replacing it though? No chain lasts forever of course 👍
Interesting videos my only feedback is I find it hard to hear what you’re saying seems like you’re often whispering and the background music is louder. Other than that thanks for sharing the work :)
Sorry about that. Sometimes I speak quietly because I’m starting really early & the rest of the street are still in bed...
I’ll see if I can tweak the audio levels in future 👍
No need to apologise, great videos thanks for sharing them :)
That is impresive, but broken chain is the first chapter to crankshaft faiure in N57
Indeed it is….
Hi brilliant video just question we’re is that wiring going from starter motor black one is it earth ??
No, it’s earthed through the body. The big red cable is permanent live 12v and the thinner wire is the signal wire which only supplies 12v while you are cranking the engine. I think it goes back to a relay in the engine bay electrical box.
@@Nut_Job. thank you for replying I replaced engine on my 520d f10 and I put everything back together cranks but no start for some reason injectors not opening may you know what to look for ??
Have you got fuel rail pressure? Do you have any diagnostic software? You don’t need it btw, just asking as it’s a different method
@@Nut_Job. didn’t check rail but was checking pressure pump dose the job!! And did just one scan and guy said there was no faults but have to check everything again!!
I’d just start with the basics like air, fuel & timing… and take it from there. If the fuel rail is primed then the engine should be injecting fuel & if your glow plugs are ok then you should hear some combustion. If the starter is definitely cranking but it won’t run then I’d be curious about the fuel supply pressure or engine timing.
I admire your pluck!
Because thank God I just cant be physically arsed anymore doing what you are doing on your Drive.
Until very recently finances have always dictated that I drove Shit of various manufacturers. Seems I have spent many psychologically damaging years on my back with the car precariously up on ramshacle arrangements in the pissing rain pathetically trying to undo seized metric pinch bolts with a near AF equivalent spanner and a one clawed claw hammer!
Split knuckles lost nails and the sheer injustice of mechanical intransigence of even simple tasks have led me to the conclusion that its not worth your sanity in the long run.
😂👍
Hello, when you turn the propshaft the rear wheels must be free to turn? Sorrry for my english...im french
Ah, good question. No I had already disconnected the end of the propshaft which connects to the rear differential. I had it balanced on an axle stand so that I could turn it 👍
Your English is still better than my French 😁👍
You can stack blocks of wood together to make a stronger more reliable ramp otherwise nice job.
At least this didn't happen in December hey
I am replacing the timing chain on my F3 328i xdrive. The job does not require removing the transmission.
Why didn't you pull the engine out? I'll be doing this job on Monday on my F30 320d.....but will be rather pulling the engine out.
No engine crane.
that's some character building shit.
Exactly 👍😂
where is part 3
Patience...
@@Nut_Job. still not finish you
What I always say when you get failures like this.. At least it is a good opportunity to give your engine some TLC by cleaning it and decarboning it.
They might have designed these engine when they were drunk....
They must have been, arranging for the timing chain to be on the back of the engine.
😂
check out BMWeast channel. He has done a lot of chain jobs, maybe you'll find something helpful. Unfortunately he speaks russian..
Yes thanks, I watched the whole thing - really useful, despite my lack of Russian language skills 😂
OK... Are you on drugs!? Haha
Fucking balls mate, respect!
Cheers 🤣
Looks dangerous man your nuts