Teen Threw Baby in Trash Can After Giving Birth in Hospital Bathroom
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the fact that she’s more scared of her mother than being seen as a MURDERER is insanely concerning
Says everything about her mother
Yeah, she is way more in the place of daughter than taking responsibility as a grown adult.
I was thinking the Same
That's very normal. I am not sure what is concerning about that. Most teenagers value their parents approval only second to their peers acceptance. And in this situation that force was so strong it forced her to kill her own child to keep her parents approval. Because remember... she is still a child and children want their parents approval.
Children have been unaliving themselves due to parents’ disappointment. Murdering someone else is not that far off.
Her threshold for pain is insane to me - her fear of her mom overrode human instinct.
She was also on morphine for the “back pains”
Not everyone freaks out in labor.
@@jennifernader2914 oh wow that changes my perspective on everything- including why she was such a talkative zombie with the personnel.
it’s honestly sad, it rly puts in perspective why she did what she did. the absolute fear she has of her mom speaks volumes
Well she had been given morphine though
Ok but nobody talking about the boyfriend and his mom attitude. The boyfriend is not sad, horrified, crying, worried etc. Neither her mom. Him and his mom look relief??? As if Alexi took a burden off of them. Actually all of them give off that impression.
It's so sad. Only the step-father is crying. Everyone else is so suspicious.
!!!!!!!!
Was a paternity test done? Stepdad sounds sus asl to me
Was a paternity test done? Stepdad sounds sus asl to me
Was a paternity test done? Stepdad sounds sus asl to me
The fact that the STEP DAD IS MORE EMOTIONAL ABOUT THE BABY THAN THE MOTHER says alot the mother failed to be a mom!
why do you people act like the mom is the one who killed that baby💀 she was NINETEEN
@@yasmina1994 Because she did kill the baby, she was right next to a room full of doctors that whole ass time, yes she was young, I'm sure it was a fucking horrible thing to mentally go through for everyone involved, but she could've easily gotten help instead of walking back in the room like nothing happened while full well knowing her own newborn was suffocating in that trash bag. Being nineteen isn't an excuse for literal murder dude. 💀💀💀
People keep saying she “threw her baby away” but she took a living newborn baby boy, wrapped him tightly in a plastic trash bag, twisted it shut right, buried him under another bag of trash, and left him to suffocate to death.
She didn’t just throw him away, she murdered him. IN A HOSPITAL where she could have just given him to a nurse and he would have been safe and helped. She could have been anonymous.
Ikr? But This young murderer killed her child
EXACTLY!! this case makes me so mad. that baby wouldve made someones life. theres so many other options and she didnt have to be involved. they have closed options.
SO SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ABORTION BUT HOMICIDE IS OK. SHE JUST DGAF. AND OBVIOUSLY HER MOTHER DIDN'T EITHER
Yep . Spot on and ppl still defend her . Like babies are less human than an adult . She’s evil af
At anytime she could have asked for help, given birth, given the baby away
Girl swore up and down that she was a virgin. How is the hospital at fault for this. Are people OK?
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Thing is, by right, Alexee didn’t need to have her mom in the room with her. They could have easily asked her to leave to give her some privacy.
It’s super common for teens to be afraid to admit in front of their parents that they are sexually active. Healthcare workers know this. The staff had a big suspicion she was pregnant, and when the pregnancy test came back positive, if they had kicked Rosa out and talked to Alexee about her options (including leaving the baby for adoption without anyone knowing), she might not have felt the need to kill Baby Doe in the first place.
They knew Rosa was most likely a strict parent judging by how adamant the two of them were that Alexee was a virgin. They knew there would be serious repercussions for her if Rosa knew the truth. It baffles me how they thought putting the patient in an unnecessarily stressful and potentially dangerous/traumatic situation (that could've been 100% avoided!!!) is "acting in the patient's best interests".
I don’t think the doctor and nurses were the bad guys here, they were trying to help. But it is nevertheless a serious oversight on their part.
because they were supposed to DO THEIR JOBS and check if she was pregnant anyway
@@melian7403yeah, and I’m wondering how she was at the hospital two months prior and they didn’t give a person of childbearing age a pregnancy test?
@@noidea42541000% she could’ve gone to the hospital herself alone if she really didn’t want her mother to know. She was 19!!! Not a child at all but she knew exactly why she said she was a virgin went to the restroom and killed her baby. No excuses!
People keep saying the hospital didn't do their job and should have done a dialation exam. She refused. You know touching a patient without their consent is illegal as hell, right?
I wonder had they made the mom leave the room and talked to her one on one if that may have changed things. I think keeping the mom in the room made care more difficult and made her hide things.
Rest in peace, sweet boy. You didn't deserve this.
regardless if you want your kid to be sexually active or not, HAVE THE SAFE SEX TALK, and if your kid ends up pregnant, you support them, not scare them
PERIOD!
According to what she said to the nurse she had been on birth control and then got off them to take weight loss pills, so I think all parents in these two parents lives were aware
exactly!! as parents, they should be the first to talk to their kids about safe sex and the right sexual values. if not, then society will teach them the hard way!
Children should NEVER be ashamed to tell their parents that they're pregnant. Rosa majorly failed Alexi by not being supportive.
@@showshortage4684 It's amazing to hear so many people talk about how parents should be supportive if their child is going through an unwanted pregnancy. It's nice to hear because while I was growing up there was absolutely no question that my parents would have shunned me had I given them the news that I was expecting. It's funny because I'm in my 30s now and married and I still get this weird sense of dread thinking about telling them my husband and I are expecting a baby because then they'll know I'm sexually active. So stupid.
I feel so deeply for the cleaning lady. As someone who has ptsd, i know that every time she changes her garbage at home or throws away something in public or even walks past a dumpster it will happen all over again in her head. My best wishes and empathy extended to all the people in the hospital. ❤
Yes I agree, I’ve had a patient of my put hands on me and I cried like a baby after shaking and all I was sooo triggered I was terrified out my mind that day.
Absolutely. If the cleaning lady found the baby alive, she would have done everything to keep that baby alive and not judge Alexi. The Cleaning Lady has emptied thousands of trash can but nothing could have prepared her for that horrible encounter. Nothing. My heart goes out to her.
I don't like to compare trauma. I've been through trauma and my trauma is valid, but if you asked my honest opinion, I would say that what this cleaning lady has been through is so much worse than what I've been through. Something happened to me at age 14 and I developed PTSD from it. I don't want to give away how old I am (I'm old, LOL) but after all of these years, certain things still trigger me. One of them is a certain song and I heard it while grocery shopping and had a full blown panic attack. That was only about a year ago. Decades have passed and I'm still being triggered by things.
I just pray that this woman gets the help she needs. I know money won't fix anything, but if she had a GoFundMe, I would absolutely donate to it. Therapy can be expensive, so maybe it would help with that. I work in healthcare myself and I actually have pretty crappy insurance. You'd think that healthcare workers would have good insurance, but that's not necessarily true. Hopefully whatever treatment she needs is fully covered.
Or she could use the money to go on a trip somewhere. Nothing is going to fix what she's been through, but maybe taking a dream vacation would at least help her relax for a little bit. This case is ongoing, so it's not over for her yet. (In reality, it will never be over for her.) She's still going to have to relive this when it goes to trial. I have a feeling that they'll end up showing her horrible pictures of the bathroom and the trash can and even the baby. They'll ask her things like, "Is this what he looked like when you found him?" My God! It's so horrifying. She's going to be traumatized all over again.
:(
@@Kristine_202 You expressed and painted the picture so clearly. Absolutely on point. This was a horrific thing to see and experience. The cleaning lady had already gone through a trauma the year before when her male partner took his life. That was an event she was carrying every day of her life. She was asked if she would be okay taking this job because of the way her partner died. She said yes. I am guessing she took the position because the salary was good and she would be busy and around other people which would keep her mind occupied. No way did she ever imagine she would encounter what did.
I too want for her to get therapy before, during, and after the trial, if there is one because every trash can n that hospital is a trigger for her. And the added trauma is that the grandmothers are yet to shed a tear for their grandson from what I have observed.
This is why OPTIONS and EDUCATION should be talked about in high schools. I'd be happy to share my experience with teen pregnancy, adoption & PPD with kids who might go through this themselves or with friends. I've offered at local high schools & was turned down. We NEED to talk about these things.
can you explain ur story?
“I’ve told you about this” is truly the weirdest thing to say. It gives me so many questions.
What exactly have you told your daughter about moms hiding pregnancy and killing their baby? It’s not a normal thing to have to talk to your child about. My mom never felt the need to tell me not to hide a pregnancy and kill my baby.
Why did she feel the need to tell her kid that??
I think she was referring to the conversation they had before she went to the bathroom. The mom told her daughter that she should tell her if she's pregnant when the staff tells them about the test.
@@fh9061 oh I didn’t think of that. To me it seemed like she had cautioned her daughter about what happens to women who harm their babies
@@Sunshineannatxtbh two cases happened in the same state within very soon time frame. NM is wild af. I have a feeling it is sort of more common there, and maybe she had brought up the whole safe surrender. Idk I always heard of “dumpster babies” growing up sort of as a bad joke sometimes in media. It obviously has been a thing for some time, cases pop up even now.
She seemed like a crazy overbearing mom. Probably hounded her about not being sexually active and probably knew she was but was in denial.
The fact that she can just casually walk back to her room after giving birth and shoving the baby down a trash can is crazy
being more scared of your "mom" is crazier. Especially if you're legally an adult. Mothers shouldn't be THIS controlling
She was in shock and had a lot of adrenaline. I’m guessing she’ll plead insanity during court.🤷♀️
She was on heavy meds and the adrenaline pumping through you after you have a baby can be crazy
Especially while in a hospital, she’s so damn selfish she could of got the baby the helped he or she needed and forgot about her lying ass self for once!
She was in shock, panicking and didn't know what to do. Humans aren't known to make the best decisions when they panic, and especially during labour. This was an incredibly traumatic event for Alexie and she does not deserve jail time for this
The fact that Alexie would rather do that to her baby than face her mom, who, after hearing her own daughter “miscarried” her GRANDCHILD, started to scold her is mind blowing to me. Wow.
She didn’t miscarry, the baby was full term.
@@TaraRosado1998 “miscarried” in quotation marks refers to the point in time when they initially thought she had actually miscarried.
@@TaraRosado1998that was know after . But at the Time of the confrontation in the room , she said the child didn’t cry , was dead so it was assume that it was a miscarriage . And the Mom scold her child thinking at that moment it was not a murder . It was learn after that it was a lie .
She lied about being a virgin, so of course she would lie about the baby crying!
@@marshellm3121YES!!
Shout out to hospital staff and police for caring more about that baby than his biological family
I'm horrified by the lack of empathy, compassion, emotion and really every reaction from every person in BOTH families. WTF?! Are people really like this now? It's so bizarre...the step Dad is the only person that is like shocked and sickened and heartbroken at what just unfolded here and he should RUN! Run far from that psychopathic community!!
I just can’t get over the fact that her mother and the bfs mother had the nerve to be laughing while knowing the seriousness of the situation. It’s just Mind Blowing
THATS the part that is mind blowing to you???? Are you kidding!??
@@NelehLove9313I’m sure all of it is they’re just pointing out a part that they noticed. I know this situation is something many feel very passionate about, but remember to be kind to others. They never said it was okay or the rest wasn’t mind blowing.
@@NelehLove9313 you know what they meant
@@NelehLove9313girl please
Some people laugh when nervous, anxious…etc
It doesn’t mean the BF mom thought it was funny she probably didn’t know what else to do. Now Alexee’s mom oh she rubs me the wrong way. That lady probably doesn’t have a soul inside of her! Weird asx family!
The only person in the body cam that seemed devastated was the stepdad, my deepest condolences for him, and may that poor boy rest in peace.
😳😳
Right he was the ONLY ONE CONCERNED… that a baby was murdered.
Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. (Revelation 3:15-18) you cannot live for this world and not try to stop sinning (being cold) and only believing in God(hot) without turning from sin or sinning and saying God will forgive you after or not read the Bible, pray, worship/obeying God. Which is being a lukewarm. If we are neither cold or hot, God will spit us out his mouth.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. ” Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished. Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before before a fall.
Genesis 1:26-27 - “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Jesus is coming back soon!! Repent and believe!! Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you 🫶🏽
Plis read revelation 3:15-18 on google if you don’t have a Bible.
(Exodus 20:7) You shall not invoke the name of the LORD, your God, in vain. Please don’t use Gods name in vain, it’s dangerous
Has a nation ever changed its gods? (Yet they are not gods at all.) But my people have exchanged their glorious God for worthless idols. Jeremiah 2:11) having idols of any kind isn’t good 🙅♀️
Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. (Jeremiah 16:20)
HAVING IDOLS IS A SIN JEREMIAH
16:20 , JEREMIAH 2:11
Revelation 3:15-18 explains that we can’t be cold and hot at the same time which is being a lukewarm. In other words, if we are hot, which is really repenting and turning from sin) if we are cold we just completely don’t really follow God. If we mix those together it makes a lukewarm which they will be spat out Gods mouth and won’t inherit the kingdom of heaven.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.John 3:16. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13
Romans 8:38-39 .. John 3:16 .. Revelation 3:15-18 Corinthians 6:9.. John 15:13 Psalms 23:4
Psalms 23:4 || Yea, though I walk through The Valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Deuteronomy 31:8. The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:6-7
JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON!!REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!🫶🏽🫶🏽 ✝️❣️..😊😊❤😊❤
@@Lyla8728 Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. (Revelation 3:15-18) you cannot live for this world and not try to stop sinning (being cold) and only believing in God(hot) without turning from sin or sinning and saying God will forgive you after or not read the Bible, pray, worship/obeying God. Which is being a lukewarm. If we are neither cold or hot, God will spit us out his mouth.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. ” Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished. Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before before a fall.
Genesis 1:26-27 - “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Jesus is coming back soon!! Repent and believe!! Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you 🫶🏽
Plis read revelation 3:15-18 on google if you don’t have a Bible.
(Exodus 20:7) You shall not invoke the name of the LORD, your God, in vain. Please don’t use Gods name in vain, it’s dangerous
Has a nation ever changed its gods? (Yet they are not gods at all.) But my people have exchanged their glorious God for worthless idols. Jeremiah 2:11) having idols of any kind isn’t good 🙅♀️
Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. (Jeremiah 16:20)
HAVING IDOLS IS A SIN JEREMIAH
16:20 , JEREMIAH 2:11
Revelation 3:15-18 explains that we can’t be cold and hot at the same time which is being a lukewarm. In other words, if we are hot, which is really repenting and turning from sin) if we are cold we just completely don’t really follow God. If we mix those together it makes a lukewarm which they will be spat out Gods mouth and won’t inherit the kingdom of heaven.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.John 3:16. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13
Romans 8:38-39 .. John 3:16 .. Revelation 3:15-18 Corinthians 6:9.. John 15:13 Psalms 23:4
Psalms 23:4 || Yea, though I walk through The Valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Deuteronomy 31:8. The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:6-7
JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON!!REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!🫶🏽🫶🏽 ✝️❣️..😊😊😊
The janitor who found the baby and other hospital staff were heartbroken and showed to much love and support to her (the janitor).
As an ex ambulance staff, I can tell you after seeing just about everything there is nothing more difficult than treating a murderer. I’ve never felt so torn. What happened is just awful 😢
Update: After performing an autopsy on March 28, 2023, investigators were able to determine the death to be homicide.
Formal charges were filed on May 10, 2023, after a criminal complaint was approved. She was charged with first degree murder and tampering with evidence.
According to New Mexico court documents, Trevizo has a pretrial hearing on July 22, 2024, in the 5th Judicial Court in Carlsbad, NM. Her jury trial is set for August 26, 2024 in the same court.
Thank you for the update
57:03 you can hear the step dads sniffles. That’s a real human right there. The fact that her mother is acting like that is disgusting, I feel terrible for the step dad.
I feel awful for her step dad
So sad
I think he's the father
@@salmasalaat1086it crossed my mind but I don’t think so
I’m so jaded I can’t help but wonder if he’s the dad.
Safe Haven Laws: She could have given birth in the bathroom, handed the baby over, and reminded them this is confidential and she doesn't want her mom to know. Baby could have lived, been given away in secret that night, and the staff could have said it was something else like a ruptured cyst due to confidentiality. But no, she chose infanticide...
How do you know about this!?
not well known knowledge at all but good on u for spreading the word! i hope it helps people in the future
good knowledge to know but doubt a 19yr old knew that
@@sadcodplayerhonestly if I was her, I would’ve tried to do a lot of research on how to give away the baby silently. I’m 16. My mind would never go to literally strangling my child (and I don’t even like kids). It sucks how she didn’t even feel safe enough to confide in her mother so much that she would rather be seen as a murderer.
@@imunderyourbed7577 do we know how the baby died? im not up-to-date with the case but i don't think she strangled it...and you absolutely cannot speak to what you would do in that situation if you have never experienced it. but yes it is a shame that she couldn't confide in her mother
I have never seen someone admit guilt louder via deflection than the mother in this case. It’s so obviously they planned to make it look like she didn’t know when they both did.
Same with the boyfriend and his mom. What did they all just plot to not have to step up? 🤢
Imagine if they told the mother of the legal adult to exit the room before announcing sensitive health information and then offered her counseling and support before telling the mother.
exactly, I’m pretty sure she reacted this way because of the tension and reaction of her mother. She probably saw no other way out of that situation, and the baby suffered for it :/
I know. Technically speaking you'd think they'd had done that regardless since Lexi was 19.
@@mossyteeflike… come onnnn… she literally had opportunity to ask for help
Right!!! Probably would have saved that baby if they did...
@@daughterofthesoil8769 thank you… my dad was 19 when I was born, and his parents were NOT happy. he still realized because they chose to keep me to full term, and bring me into the world, he had to be a father. There was no going back. I have no sympathy for this girl. She had so many options prior to this. Not to mention there are more than cases like this than this one. She was at prom not too long ago. She killed her baby because she didn’t want to be a mom, she wasn’t ready to be an adult, point blank period.
The fact that Alexi and her mother are suing the hospital and staff for wrongful death is beyond me. Not once did Rosa ask ANY questions about the child. Even if you take into account everything that the defense attorney claims, WHY DID SHE TRASH HER BABY!
Wow the insanity..... imagine if they planned the whole thing to try the lawsuit.
Someone just lock em both away cuz who knows what happened between mom and daughter
@@mariajustdamnsill3398
The mother gives off such narcissistic, controlling vibes, nothing would surprise me at this point.
Some legal experts, including a judge, say this is to be expected. Alexi's lawyers probably would have recommended it, they have to come out of the gate running. It shows an adamant no admission of guilt. But that is what the legal system has come to. Many things in legal proceedings don't make any sense to people with any level of ability to feel compassion. From what I've heard, the hospital is most likely at no fault, and will be found as such. Even the toxicology report with painkillers administered shows no wrong doing. But who knows. We weren't there and will have to wait and see. I hope the poor baby has justice, however that plays out, in the best way possible.
I agree with this, child abandonment is beyond crazy, i’ve never expected such a thing, that poor baby healthily came here for minutes until his last breath, shes a true monster, she definitely did have other options!!
Don't worry the hospital lawyers would rip them apart just by using the body cam and cctv records. But the audacity is beyond imagination she murdered a living and breathing baby then wants to saw those who discovered her crime to profit from them. Some humans are indeed scarier than demons.
I just found this channel and I appreciate the compassion and intention you put behind the cases you present. My heart breaks for all the cases you cover. Take care of yourselves and thank you for covering these cases.
The proportion thing is spot on, I am 5’ 1” and (135lbs pre baby) when I was pregnant you could tell from all angles 😂
My son’s gf got ( unplanned) pregnant last year and as shocked and concerned as I was I bend over backwards to support them. My granddaughter is 12 days old today and by far the best “ accident” they could’ve ever had!!!
As a parent you support your kids not scare the hell out of them.
The mother is at fault in this as well .
I hope they throw the book at both of them!!!
Your son and his gf** got pregnant- women don’t get pregnant by themselves
Ur a good mother
Thanks God there are still mother like you in this world
Congratulations Grandma!! That’s what good parents do.
Congratulations on your family
As a medical student who’s only started experiencing the hospital life for around 2 years, I can’t imagine the emotions and trauma all the medical staffs must be going through. I teared up listening to their thoughts at end of the video. I think I would crumble if I were in their positions
Even the police officers winced at hearing the details. Horrifying.
And now the mother is suing them. That's crazy.
I used to work in medical billing and quit because reading a lot of that stuff messed me up. Having been there must've been horrifying.
You’re gonna be expected to work through this, have no emotion, push it back, get the job done. Don’t let them take that humanity from you. Don’t let them tell you that being affected by what you see makes you any less of a doctor because it in fact makes you a better one. I’ve seen some doctors completely shut themselves off so it doesn’t effect the efficiency of them providing care for their patients but stepping away for a minute to process when you can is probably healthier. And if you ever feel like you’re going to crumble, you’ll have a team of nurses and techs and aides there to pick you back up.
@@MsTalkingbook Even though I should have expected it, I was still shocked when I heard about the lawsuit. How dare they?! Wrongful death? Are you kidding me?!
The hospital staff should be able to sue Alexee for all of the trauma she caused them. I know, that's not how things work, but if anyone deserves compensation, it's them.
I'm late to this but this case reminded me of a case in Germany. I listened to a podcast from a german psychologist who works with criminals. In the german case, a mother of three was completely ignoring the fact that she was pregnant eight times, or something around that number, over many years. She birthed at home and instead of actively murdering her children she just ignored them until they were dead. The psychologist said that some people can "ignore" certain things in life like that, of course harming others with this behaviour.
I don't know if this is what was going on here, but I hope that woman gets some psychological help too, there is clearly something wrong there.
You should check out the case of Lacey fletcher
the fact the step-dad looks more horrified and nervous than the mom, boyfriend, boyfriend's mom.. its ridiculous.
The mother knew, they all knew, the boyfriend, the mother-in-law they all knew. Rip to the innocent baby who paid the price by losing his life in such a horrific way 😢
The fact that the boyfriend went to friggen prom with her after what happened tells me everything.
1. She wanted to go yo prom
2. She was allowed to go to prom
3. Her boyfriend didn’t break up with her.
4. The boyfriend was allowed to go to prom with her.
Everyone was in on it.
i doubt that, they (minus alexie )probably had their suspicions but that’s about it
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140nah the boyfriend was probably just glad that he didn’t have to be involved in raising a kid i doubt he knew about the pregnancy
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140And didn't she also posted on instagram soon after that incident like nothing happened?
I've been following this case pretty closely. According to some of the research I've seen, her classmates/friends were interviewed by the police. They said she KNEW she was pregnant and planning to name the baby Alex, whether it was a girl or boy. That was BEFORE her arrest. So seeing that "memorial" is so much more disturbing.
She named him Alex Fierro after she didn't want bf's name on death or birth certificate 🤷😢yet they're Alexee and Dylan are suing the hospital for wrongful death,her lawyer Mitchell found loopholes to reduce her charges enough for her to walk on a technicality and blame the hospital.
@jenniferornelas4151 She may not get off on the technicalities she is aiming for. Morphine is far less likely the cause of death than her taking diet pills in an attempt to hide the pregnancy. It really is gonna depend on the jury I think.
@@jenniferornelas4151she’s not going to walk no way
@@HandbagDiva we will see our laws suck and it's yesterday's news sad to say, but she won't get as much as deserved,her lawyer found a loophole and people will be super angry but it's very possible she will on a technicality.
That makes the whole situation even weirder and frustrating because naming her child meant she was probably planning on welcoming her child into the world and keep him so why would she go to such measure to get rid of him? It’s so mind boggling honestly
I've watched maybe two of your videos and I've gotta say... you have a way with telling these stories that's unexplainable. The detail. The depth of emotion. The way you speak. It's very professional and alluring to the story. Thank you for your hard work.
Lexies blatant denial is maddening! Shes clearly having a baby in that washroom. Holy Shit! To throw your baby in the trash...Absolutely disgusting.
I swear to christ ASK PEOPLE THINGS WITHOUT THEIR PARENT if you think theres something weird going on! abusive parents are scarier than killing your baby sometimes.
They are until the prison system sucks your entire life away.
This is so important, only when you have lived with abusive parents you understand this. It's not good what she did but I'm sure she was really scared of her mom
Absolutely, I personally grew up with an abusive mother and even talking about the actions that happened in my house still brings fear because we were told to tell no one since it was considered “normal” so I can see her being scare
this is a horribly scary and sad story :(
Exactly! 💯
I was 19 when I conceived my baby and gave birth at age 20. I don’t think I would be thatttt stupid or sheltered as to think any of her options were worse than throwing a child in the trash. Especially with how much the staff offered help. I think her mom is the key to most all of the behavior
I had my first kid at 19, just shy of 20. Almost the same as you and at the same age as the girl in the video.
I was independent and living with my then boyfriend ( now husband) which obviously made it easier than for this teen but I still come from a highly religious family and we were "living in sin".
So, I knew it would be bad for my kid and myself.
The pregnancy was literally at one of the worst time possible in my life when we were getting ready to move to another country and I was definetely not financially ready for being a mother.
Then to top this all of I only discovered the pregnancy at almost 14 weeks bc I had heavy bleeding that I mistook for normal period. So it ended up being considered a high risk pregnancy where me and my baby were both at risk at some points.
The pregnancy news hit me like a rock. I immediately thought that I would end up alone bc I assumed my bf would leave me ( he never showed any inclination for that it was just my panicking brain), that my religious family wouldn't help us ever and then after digesting that news I had to deal with a high risk pregnancy. Me not following the instructions would've meant almost a certain late term abortion. The idea of doing it in purpose never even crossed my mind.
So, given the months bedridden at the hospital and at home and the fear of losing my kid that gripped me since the beginning that had me follow every single thing by the book... I just cannot understand this teen at all.
It does appear like she's afraid of the mother though and I obviously don't know if she had some mental breakdown to end up doing that...
My parents were 19 and 20 when my sister was born and I came only a 2.5 years later. My mom had a pregnancy between us, she had to have an abortion for for health reasons. Even though my mom's parents were very religious and it was late 80's, early 90's in a country fresh out of communism she had options even then. Someone in 2023 has so many more.
I think she could have be dissociate af, like the girl who gave birth to her baby at the bathroom of her prom, she got the baby, she throw it to the trash and keep dancing, she was so dissociate that she didn't even consider the baby a baby, honestly this seems like that, because going to the hospital was such a stupid idea if she was planning to do this
Your experience isn’t everyone else’s experience. Congrats on not having a controlling, abusive mother but some people have to live with them. Some children are more sheltered than others.. duh.
@@tamaramaureirajimenez977i was thinking the same! She probably didn’t even register that the baby was a human life, just like the girl in the prom story.
I'm a doctor in Panama and sadly cases like this are quite common here😞. We have learned not to believe young women when they say they are not pregnant and still do a pregnancy exam. Sad reality of living in a place with very poor public education facilities, non existent sexual education, and illegal abortion.
Absolutely no way that this was a case of postpartum depression and its disgusting to use it as an excuse when there are real life women who struggle.. She lied from the absolute beginning of conception.
The mother of Alexie is unbelievable. She never asked about her grandbaby and the other grandmother stayed quiet. I would have fainted if were the grandmother of an issue like that. Rose was a heartless person
and a terrible mother, wish they would lock her up
K cool
@@isabelwilliams8072Not only that I believe the mother told that she-devil daughter pof hers to get rid of it by any means necessary but the daughter got caught trust me that wicked lien mother knew exactly what was going on!! 😮
Her loyalty must be to her daughter first
Not heartless. Her daughter comes first always
As a social worker who has worked in child protection, I am sick and tired of people blaming the hospital staff. It is Alexee alone who is responsible for the death of her baby.
That teen definitely needed help, but "mothers" are expected to not be traumatized and just love the child. As a social worker you should be more concerned about why she (herself a child) was so much under pressure, that she thought she only can safe her life by hurting the child. The adults let her down.
@@insideAdirtyMind respectfully, she was an adult. i don't care who you are, you first thought after having a baby should not be to stick it in a fucking trash bag. that's vile and sick. if she had just given the babies to the doctors, or a nurse, or someone, all of it could have been avoided. instead she stuck her baby in a trash bag.
lets take a moment to acknowledge the fact that her issues with her mom are issues. not necessarily the cause. the only person you can control is yourself.
now on a totally different note, she stuck her child in a trash can, and referred to the baby multiple times as 'it'. her way of brushing it off and making it seem like the situation isn't as bad as it is, (which is a manipulation tactic) and trying to drive the point home 'it wasn't crying or breathing'. ok as it stands that may be true, but you still put him in a fucking trash can. just like those nurses said, she knew perfectly well what she was doing was wrong. the fact that her mother was also referring to the baby as 'it' but also scolding her daughter was weird to me too. i do think however that it was weird how she was scolding her daughter for not telling her that she was pregnant, but not scolding her for putting him in a trash can.
as it stands, (and scream at me all you want for this) trauma is not a valid excuse, or a excuse in general, to put your child in a trashcan. period. i know plenty of people who are traumatized, and they would still have the sense to not put their babies in a trashcan. if she had come out of the bathroom, and handed it to someone, they would have still chalked it up to just a mis carriage.
(not saying that mis carriages aren't tramautic as fuck, just saying even someone with no common sense wouldn't have put their child in a trash can.)
to the person I @ed, sorry for coming off so aggressive, you are entitled your opinion like I am to mine.
@@insideAdirtyMindshe works in “CHILD PROTECTION” alexee isn’t a child hun.
@@insideAdirtyMind she's not a child she choose to have sex and theres always a chance of getting pregnant. A baby is not something you can take back. She became a mom when she got pregnant a.d she should of protected her baby I was 19 with my child was born.
@@insideAdirtyMind your logoc is off. So any traumatic early years means you get a pass to murder your infant? Ridiculous. Many social workers including myself have experienced traumatic pasts but use the experience to help others and not murder. No social worker is a psychiatric doctor and we don't have to diagnose a client and no past traumatic experience can ever excuse murdering children. We work to prevent harm to children. Alexee isn't a child. No baby deserves to be stuck in a bin and suffocated. I will say it again there is no excuses for any parent abusing or murdering a child. None!
You did an incredible job covering this case. Thank you
my stomach,heart,mind,soul DROPPED. The moment you said “a perfectly healthy boy” I don’t wanna be on this earth anymore.
The two mothers smiling and laughing at each other while their grandchild lies dead in one of the hospital rooms sent literal chills down my spine. I had to pause the video to take several deep breaths in order to calm myself down. To think that they aren't even trying to hide the fact that they give absolutely zero shits about the poor baby.
but why the boyfriend's mother too? how can the 2 personalities of complete strangers be so similar?
@@lolboy-642Fr. I never understand how in some of these cases awful people just find a way towards each other.
@@lolboy-642 Sadly this could be a case of neither mom wanted to take responsibility for their Grandchild, so it was just a "happy" convenience for them. It's clear Alexie is not mentally stable, so it would probably come down to the Grandmothers to take care of the baby.
This whole video was pretty hard to watch in itself for me too and I had trouble watching and I dont understand how grown adults dont see that there are both sides.Clearly both mothers seemed like phsycopaths and Alexia was most likely so scared and had been through abuse which caused such behaviors.Alexia seems like a socio path.But I also thought of other possible scenarios and how there are cult behaviors,such as people who forcefully make their child have babies to later make them kill them as sacrifices even if this sounds far fetched this looks like it could have been a possibility due to my observance of alexia’s mother and her bf mother.The step dad was sketchy too “even if he was crying”.
That genuinely shocked me. Whether they have a shot about the baby is irrelevant to me, the kid still died, was potentially murdered, and you’re sitting there fucking laughing ?!
As a former Emergency Department triage nurse, the number of patients that I’ve had that flat out lied to my face during triage is staggering. Side note: that defense lawyer’s strategy is laughable. Thank you for covering this case.
I’ve seen so many it’s so sad
So happy to hear somebody say his defense is laughable. I have been watching COURT-tv and some many people are agreeing with him. She lied to the STAFF. They could not properly do their job. Alexee and her boyfriend are now suing the hospital for wrongful death!
I 100% agree that Alexee KNEW the baby was alive and chose to kill it, when she could’ve alerted medical staff and & anonymously surrendered her baby. I’m not sure what the hospital could’ve done to prevent her from killing her baby in a state of panic or post partum psychosis.
Considering that Alexie seemed more scared of her mother than jail, was it possible for A&E staff to ask her mother to leave the room while Alexie answered sexual health questions?
Whether or not Alexie knew she was pregnant before active labour, Alexie probably wouldn’t tell the truth while her mother was present when Alexie was already lying to her mother about being a virgin until the crime happened.
I agree he has the audacity to say that they gave her morphine and painkillers and how that is dangerous to the baby. Did he not do any research because they give women morphine and painkillers during early labor. I was given a 20 mg Percocet told to go home and wait until my contractions were just minutes apart. Also the fact that he is trying to blame the hospital staff it's ridiculous there are cameras everywhere and shows what she did and the bodycam footage shows she has absolutely no remorse for what she did she wasn't even crying it was fake
Cause it’s not your business lol
i sit in the bathroom for like 1 hour thinking of new intrusive thoughts💀
"You feel like you're in the bathroom for a long time when you're constipated but it's never 20 minutes long." Oh my sweet summer child...
As someone who is regularly constipated because of a nerve disorder, I can easily spend 20+ minutes in the bathroom for genuine reasons. lol
I once spent four hours just sitting there. I fell asleep like five times
@@chickennuggiepartygirl9749glad I’m not the only one who has fallen asleep on the toilet
@@YourJapanic its pretry common actually. But most people are too embarrassed to admit it. Honestly just own it lmao. Its embarrassing but kinda funny
Same I was like, oh..just 20 min?? Hell I’ve been in there for over an hour close to 2😂
I spent more than 20 minutes in the bathroom on my period because it's hard for me to even go number 2 when I feel so much pain (Cramps and soreness in the wooha area and butt) when I try to push it takes a while for me to get everything out and be done.
i 1000% believe the mom is the main factor behind her daughter's decision. her behaviour is beyond strange and indicative of an extremely controlling parent. i think alexee did what she did out of panic bc she didn’t know she could give up the baby without informing her mom and she was terrified of her finding out. it’s a horrific, inhuman way to die, let alone for a child. terrible situation.
edit: since y’all love to interpret things in the worst way possible, let me clarify. I AM NOT EXCUSING ALEXEE'S ACTIONS. what i am saying is that i believe her mother was the main motivating factor that led her to make the choices she made. dismissing the situation as “she's an adult, she’s just evil and loves killing babies” is not helping anyone or anything. we need to understand WHY these things happen or they will keep happening.
Not really it was the daughters fault. The mother did not commit the action. The daughter did.
@ImaginaryFriendxx no daughter would rather kill her baby than to ask her mom for help, her mother most likely demonised teen pregnancy and that led her daughter to commit the act. Her daughter is at fault for committing the act, but her mother is also partially at fault for making her feel as if she HAD to commit the act
@@naomi5874 Oh alright! that makes sense
@ImaginaryFriendxx all around, it's a super weird situation and the only one who we know was completely was innocent was the baby that was killed a few minutes after their birth
@naomi5874 that was so sad though. I hope the baby is doing better in the afterlife.
I just happened upon your channel and I’m so glad I did!
Thank you for sharing. It is deeply heartbreaking and tragic. Thank you also for sharing it with heartfelt respect, empathy and depth. You have a gift.
Ive gone to the hospital pregnant and never once was I followed to the toilet. That defense attorney is on crack.
Never blame the hospital staff. It is not their fault that she killed that poor baby. She made that choice herself. She didn’t even make any attempt to help them save the baby and give him the life he deserved. May he rest in eternal peace and unite with a family that can love him to their fullest extent
Well think they mean they should’ve been more aware something was up and done something sooner because it was said Alexi was in the bathroom for 20 minutes. That’s way too long. They should’ve went in after 10 minutes at least.
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Update: just was reminded that she said she was constipated.. I forgot about that when I did my comment. But makes sense as to why they waited so long. Situation is just crazy and sad
@@miriamschiro8585no because who in a million years would've expected such a horrific murder to suddenly happen as the hospital, hospital is definitely not at fault
@@miriamschiro8585she said she was constipated. it isn't uncommon to be in the bathroom for more than 10 min. after the 20 minutes was when they heard the flushing + paper towel dispenser.
That hospital & their staff is not responsible for what Alexee did. She lied to them from the very beginning. She is an adult. She knew she was pregnant. Nothing excuses her for committing 1st degree murder. I hope she rots in prison for years & years
It's not that big a deal bro💀 We don't need more humans in the world anyway, one random baby that hasn't even lived for an hour is not something worth caring about
I am 19 and recently miscarried. My mom was in jail and I never got to tell her, I was waiting until she was out. I loved my baby so much, my partner and I immediately named her Colette and we had such high hopes for our baby girl. I could not imagine harming Colette in this way but growing up with such a controlling parent, I understand the fear that comes with things like this.
I’m so sorry for your miscarriage.
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I grew up with an extremely controlling mom and family. No way in he'll I would have ever committed such an evil, despicable act. That is just a ridiculous excuse for an inhuman person to commit an in-human evil.
I’m so sorry you lost Colette. I wish you all the best and a happy future 💜
Just know Colette will always be a part of your body. Studies show that once a baby is implanted whether it lives or not the babies cells fight off any harm that comes to moms body. Its truly amazing how she was able to harm her child in such a way and still baby Doe continues to protect mom
so many doctors take the "are you pregnant?" thing WAY too far, though
like when i had a rupturing ovarian cyst at 16, the ONLY thing they could think was pregnancy and would not even listen when i said i was a virgin, not at all interested (i'm asexual), they made my mom leave the room even though i was in so much pain i did not care what i said in front of her and they even did an exam for internal bleeding in front of her after that
but they STILL had me do TWO pregnancy tests and when it came back negative, they SENT ME HOME because nothing was wrong
even when i was literally throwing up in the exam room - from how much pain i was in
i legitimately thought i was dying, but because i wasn't pregnant, nothing was wrong
i've talked to people who have been pregnant who have also had rupturing ovarian cysts and they've usually said the cysts were more painful
i know it's so SO important
but at some point doctors need to try to find the real reason someone is in pain, it's so frustrating to not be taken seriously and ignored
and only add to it if someone is fat, they're not getting ANY medical treatment besides being told to lose weight
broken leg? have you tried losing weight?
you're so lazy if you haven't tried losing weight to fix your broken leg first, why do you think medical treatment is the first option?
but hey. at least it was better than my previous doctor who refused to listen to me - she asked my mom about my symptoms, asked her questions about the type of pain,all that stuff, did NOT even look at me, didn't ask or let me know if she was going to touch me or examen me, nothing
and she was a pediatric doctor, my primary care doctor my entire life up to that point
she had people hold me down for shots rather than talk to me about them (i'm not great with needles if i'm scared but if you explain what they are and let me choose to look or not when something is being done, i'm pretty fine.... instead they just let me be freaked out and held me down crying until it was over.... hello medical trauma)
my mom nearly yelled at her to ask me questions instead of her because i was 14-15 and knew more about my pain that she (my mom) did
anyway, what i mean is - doctors need to do better
just because someone has a uterus or is fat or a child doesn't mean they have no idea about their own body and everything is their fault and that they don't need to be treated or talked to like an actual person
this has nothing to do with the actual case, but the comment about doctors specifically
(also i can easily spend 20+ minutes in the bathroom without it being a big deal.. i guess not in a hospital, but idk that was kinda weird to comment on)
I’ve had irritating instances with doctors focusing on pregnancy too, and awful doctor experiences in general. I was trying to get treatment for my very severe headache issue and they made a huge deal about not giving me a medication that is harmful for a fetus, when I’m a virgin and my headaches impede my ability to do so much there’s no way I’m going to suddenly not be a virgin anytime remotely soon. then the doctor said I could be raped tho… I’m pretty sure I would get an abortion if that happened, also I don’t leave the house because of my headache to begin with, home invasions are so rare, why are you focusing on an imaginary baby and not my treatment???
@@rainydaze1313 woooooow i'm so sorry that's genuinely so weird that's the first place their mind went..... "oh you're not pregnant or sexually active? but what if you get raped? guess i don't need to do anything to help you!"
like yikes that's awful i'm sorry ♥
It is incredibly rare for a baby to survive at 22wks. I've never heard of that.
In most cases it's 25wks plus but its still intensive care to keep the fragile baby alive.
This baby was 38wks. I am blown away it only took her 30min to give birth in silence. Her baby was healthy.
She is a monster. I don't care if she was "just" 19. That's an adult.
19 is not an adult, messed up laws aside and looking at biological/psychological development, but definitely old enough to know better.
She knew she was pregnant, even her classmates came forward to say she even picked out a name, and everything for the baby.
source?
In those kind of cases, are we sure we want to believe people who get a bit of fame?
@@MiotaLee There is even a photo of her in her cheerleader uniform at school looking around 6 months. There was definitely a bump, so it makes no sense if nobody new.
@@jesikkahigh6886 seen it. I meant the source for the classmates speaking up.
@@jesikkahigh6886 there’s several pictures like that, but yes the one in her cheerleading uniform is most obvious. That’s why I don’t understand why this creator keeps saying that she “didn’t look pregnant”. Did she look like she was a humongous, ready to pop, nine months? Eh, that’s up to everyone’s own pov. But to say she didn’t look AT LEAST a solid 5 to 6 months is completely absurd.
Honestly it seems that her mom’s initial reaction to her pregnancy is the catalyst for her trying to get rid of it. It’s very sad that they couldn’t reassure her that it wasn’t the end of the world when she found out
yeah, while was she did was absolutely horrendous, i still feel sympathy for her. so many non-violent options but she was made to feel like she could only chose the worst one.
@@hamtaru absolutely agree. The fear of disappointment is real, especially when it comes to a disapproving parent 😪
Sorry but I have zero sympathy. New Mexico has abortion on demand up until birth. Lexi could have had an abortion at anytime before this and her mom would have been none the wiser. She also could have left the child at the hospital and no one would have cared. Instead she chose to lie and murder her child.
It is, and I think the guy's mother knew , so nobody wanted that child
@@Nai7547 somebody wants that baby, they could have just left it at the hospital or aborted it an timely fashion.
i think it’s very interesting they said that her father had put his hands on her before she went into labor. her body language is like a scared little girl. These parents are extremely suspicious.
Dude, imagine what it's like to show up to the hospital and be told your GF was pregnant and just killed your child that you never got the opportunity to meet.
Imagine that happening and the father doesn’t care? He stays with the GF regardless. That poor baby was born into a family of soulless monsters.
the father doesn't seem to give a fuck. this is why we need to educate teens on safe sex, both seemed too immature and selfish to care for a baby.
he literally showed no emotion and didn't ask about the baby at all
@lalalore13 Yeah, he's a piece of shit, but, I still wouldn't want to experience that
I literally don't get why the father should care because he didn't even knew, why should he care?
The girl absolutely needs to take responsibility for what she did but the mother also definitely needs to be looked into because she’s seems to be a big factor. They shouldn’t have let the mom in the room. The girl was 19 anyways. I hope they both get the help that they need.
I would get it for emotional support and that young adults still feel a bit of dependents on their parents but was the assertiveness the mother had that shot alarm bells in my head
The girl def needs prison time, don’t give her excuses
@@Dolphinboi We not making excuses the 19 year old definitely deserves prison time but children pick up behavior from their parents and the mother/grandmother is acting odd here to.
@@Dolphinboi no she definitely deserves to go to prison Bc she had EVERY chance to prevent what happened
@@Star.fall. the girl is just not in the right mind
There are 2 people you never want to lie to, your doctor and your lawyer. If they don’t know what’s truthfully going on, they can’t help. It doesn’t matter if your in the hospital from complications from drug use or whatever the case may be, if they don’t know they can’t give you proper treatment which can cost you your life.
And then there's typically one person you *CAN'T ( **_successfully_** ) lie to...* your own *mother!*
@@brischarrer lol you can xD
**you're* in the hospital...
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I like how much of a hype man the camera guy is to you. Honestly what a great guy. You two work great together.
I think he’s her husband
I have the same relationship with my mom - expected to do what is told of me and succeed in my path and scared to mess up especially involving pregnancy. The mom responded the exact same way my mom would have , understandably upset but wishing I would have told her before hand . The baby could have been saved and loved - but FEAR runs deep
Yes I hate how people are blaming the girl when it's mostly the mother's fault
Yes I hate how people are blaming the girl when it is mostly the mother's fault
@@SawyerH-hb7knIt’s Not mostly the mothers fault. The girl is 19!! She knew what she did was wrong, the entire time she ran while suffocating and having that baby boy get murdered, she could’ve handed him off- quickly explained, and ran BACK!! Or even leave him in the restroom on the ground without a bag to suffocate him..Alexi is at fault!! The mother had a part too!! But alexi is mainly at fault! And I am speaking as someone who is living in fear of a parent every day!!
@@slowedvxbesaudios8378 You can tell that the way the daughter was raised was wrong. She was obviously raised with a toxic non trusting relationship that was led with fear. So she did not trust her mom like a daughter should and was scared because she probably still lives with her mother.
@@SawyerH-hb7kn I absolutely agree, I also believe that just because you had a rough upbringing- doesn’t give you a pass to do what she did. Yes, she may have panicked..however at the end of the day she still chose to do what she did, fear or not. And ultimately HER choices murdered that baby boy.
I've been a housekeeper for 4 years at a hospital and work specifically in the labor & delivery and neonatal units. We are trained to throw out and wipe down EVERYTHING in areas with heavy biohazard, and we are constantly trashing out waste, linen, and contaminated products in our areas. With this, you get used to the different weights of filled waste bags and can sometimes clock out what makes them heavy. However, if a bag is oddly heavy, we can check to see if something important may have been accidently thrown away.
So, I commend Leela for her thoroughness, and I wish her and the rest of the hospital staff the best in getting through this tragedy.
Alexee's step father in the waiting room was continuously wiping away tears. It's crazy that he was the only one that showed that emotion. I know people handle these high stress, really bad situations differently but, that man cared and understood the weight of it all. He wanted to know about the baby. Her mom's reactions and things she said were so strange to me and it bothered me alot. The entire situation is so horrific. The little baby boy deserved a happy life.
I think they need to dna test the baby, alexee, her bf, and the step father.
I don't believe any of them, there's a reason why they're together. If he cared, their fates would be different. This is an act.
@@bonniescalise6274why the step father?
@@s0ne01i think they believe the stepdad could have been the father.
@@s0ne011. because he was whipping . A little weird right there.
2. Why did alexee didn’t wanted her bf to be listed on the baby’s death certificate? Whyy if he was the father ? 3. This more like a question … was the baby cremated cause if he was why? Like why???
I love the way you tell a story. I’ve seen multiple different people tell the story of Taylor Parker but that’s the episode I watched of yours that really sucked me in. I’ve never heard it told with such details and the lead up was brilliant. You are a great storyteller. I’m hooked!
nobody else could have done this story better! Hands down. You were objective. You were thorough. You left with a good message! Well done! I could not be a police officer or a first responder. I don't think I could. The heartache and horrors you see on a regular basis can be overwhelming. I just can't. How blessed some of us are that we don't have to see that every day and it's not our job to help people and protect people so that doesn't happen. To those that are brave and fighting so we can live in that situation there are not enough words to show you how lucky we are to have you. 💔
This video makes me want to move to New Mexico. Judge Finger was extremely generous. As a parent and is someone that had a really hard postpartum stage by 100% agree with the people that think that was a factor. This girl was terrified and she has had the worst example what is the right thing to do based on what I see from her elders. she still needs to be held responsible for her actions. She is an example for others unfortunately.
Everyone handles postpartum differently. I have so many things I could say. My son just turned 10. I've been pregnant more than once and I have a different experiences. Postpartum can do a lot but with the hormones and everything I would have been more likely to not be able to look at my baby add an extreme case. I find it hard to believe that she did not do that baby is trash. I guarantee she knew it was breathing. I think she just put it in the trash can to erase what was going on because I don't know that this girl has ever been shown that she needs to take responsibility for her actions. I don't know how she went back to being normal at school. What are the people at school say? She obviously has the ability to completely tuned out reality and I'm sure she was living in this fantasy world with her boyfriend
The fact that the one person in the waiting room who is not actually related to the baby is the only one actually crying is very concerning.
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@@JJdear2 That person is saying it anywhere that brings up the stepdad. They are either a troll or just sexist since apparently men can't openly cry without something fishy going on.
@@OverlordDenooh 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bro I just stumbled upon this thread below a comment I made literally yesterday, can someone tell me what the heck is going on.
@markthesapphicdumpsterfire1745 I gave an opinion and some folks got a hair up their ass about it..smdh..
I feel that pro-life or pro-choice, this is still horrifying. Even if the baby was not breathing, to stuff it into a bag is just so despicable to me... I don't think I would ever be able to recover if I worked in that hospital!
honestly, i’m heavily pro-choice and i am shocked by this. she is so lucky to live in a place like new mexico where so many options were available, but instead she chose to murder her baby right after she gave birth to it, when she could have given it up for adoption by just speaking to a nurse
@isabellagoring872 Options and access are not the same things. Hospital didn't follow proper procedures and ignored her rights, gave her morphine which can cause respiratory issues in babies, and made her feel so unsafe she had to sneak away to give birth. Hospital is definitely the biggest contributor in the death and it's quite presumptuous to assume she caused the baby's death
@@NaNa-ou1sgit's entirely her fault that the baby died, she lied to the hospital staff knowing very well that it could hurt the baby and that trashy mom of hers is just so unbelievable. the fact that she just stuffed the baby in a trash bag is so despicable, and she had the face to go to a prom with her boyfriend (who knew what she did). She's 19 YEARS OLD she's NOT a child, I hope she rots in prison
@@NaNa-ou1sg She threw her baby into the trash. wtf are you talking about. The hospital did not throw the baby into the trash. She did. SHE. DID. And clearly it was mostly her mother making her feel so unsafe.
this has nothing to do with abortion that shouldn’t even be brought into question
I think a lot of people are quick to judge, but don’t realize that although Alexi is 19 years old, she is still a child. Everyone in this case in some way is at fault. When the hospital staff saw the dynamic between Rosa and Alexi, they should have separated the two immediately and care for Alexi in private. A lot of children, regardless if the law states that they are adults, cannot be honest while their parents are in the room. The hospital is also at fault for not informing Alexi of the pregnancy and for not accessing the situation: pregnant women in labor often feel the need to use the bathroom. Why not have her go in the hospital room? Lastly, Alexi is at fault. Once she saw that the baby popped out of her, she should have told the nurses/doctors to go into the bathroom. She could have requested that they hide the entire incident from her mother while they continue to care for her. She had options.
She is an adult child
they did tell her she was pregnant, there’s typically no rooms w/ bathrooms on the er floor/in trauma rooms, and they had no reason to believe she was at the stage where she could be laboring
@@meahdahlgren6537trust me if you’re abused by your parent you will do anything to survive their wrath, not saying what she did was okay, but it explains a lot. If her mother wasn’t around she would’ve gave birth and given it up for adoption.
@@Biggiecheeseness right
I appreciate your rational, non blood thirsty take on this case. Thoughtful commentary as always. Sometimes I think that there are so many people listening with bias that it's too dangerous out there - one might get their eyes scratched out by a well done manicure 😅
There has been an update that pertains to what you were talking about near the end: They released the baby's toxicology report and he had a tiny (insignificant) amount of morphine in his system. I'm sure the defense will try to twist it and say that's what killed him, since they're blaming the hospital for everything, but it was literally nanograms worth of morphine.
However, he also had nanograms of phentermine in his system, and the hospital did not give that to Alexee. So what that proves is that she actually was on diet pills, but not just any diet pills, prescription diet pills that are a controlled substance because they are in the amphetamine family, and are contraindicated in pregnant women.
That finding has caused SO many additional questions. Where did she get them? No ethical doctor would prescribe them to a woman without doing a pregnancy test first. (Although there are plenty of unethical doctors out there.) Was she buying them off of the street? And, as you said, was she taking those drugs to try to hide the weight that she was gaining from the pregnancy? Or did she know they were bad for pregnant women and hoped they would cause a miscarriage? There are plenty of weight loss drugs out there, she took the one that people often refer to as "legal meth." That's significant.
There are a lot of unanswered questions in this case, and I have a feeling that even more shocking information is going to come out.
I was given morphine while in labor bc I didn't want an epidural the 1st time. I was 20. They know what they are doing. The normal dosage given to the mom, even for back pain. Isn't enough to cause harm to the baby. Not to mention if you listened to the description the baby was breathing hense how the plastic was able to cause suffocation. Meaning born alive. She murdered him....instead of giving him a fair shot. We have safe haven laws...a hospital is one of the best approved locations to surrender your baby with no repacussions. It's a law that's not new and has been around to help people in the situations and to help cut down on horrific crimes like this! What this young woman did was vile.
@@GingerThereforeNoSoul Absolutely! It's not the best idea in the world to be give a pregnant woman morphine later on in the labor, it can technically affect the baby's breathing. But it's pretty common to give it in early labor. And the tests have been done: He had a tiny, insignificant amount in his system and he died because he suffocated in a trash bag.
I hate her lawyer. He was talking about how it's all the hospital's fault and morphine is contraindicated in pregnant women. I've worked in the medical field for over 20 years. That's just not true. And you don't need an MD to know that. (I don't have one.) I'm pretty sure you can find that out from a quick Google search.
Also, she was an adult and she went to the hospital for pain. It was her responsibility to tell them, "BTW I'm pregnant." I know they're claiming that she didn't know, but no one is buying that. MAYBE the mom didn't know. Alexee definitely knew.
I kind of hope they stream this trial because I can't wait to see the prosecution obliterate the defense's "expert" witnesses. I want to hear the doctor say that you can't give morphine to a pregnant woman. Really?! Because it's literally done every single day. 🤦♀
@Lang172588 me too. I hope to watch the trial....and you're correct it can possibly affect their Apgar scores...like my little ones' first score was just one point off from perfect....but they do them multiple times...and he passed. Then, he failed his first hearing test. Stressed me out....my grandmother was there...sneezed while the nurse held him, and he got so startled he woke up crying...and the nurse was like...I have a feeling he'll pass it later....which he thankfully did. Her lawyer is disgusting, but that's what they aren't meant to do, unfortunately. Hopefully, it's a jury trial....and they don't play that game. I hope there's a few mothers in that jury.
I believe it came out that her mother gave her the diet pills
@@jennibishop718 That was what I suspected happened. If the mom didn't know she was pregnant (which seems impossible, but let's assume for argument's sake), she seems like the kind of person who would be concerned with her daughter gaining weight. How many times in that bodycam footage did she mention that Alexee was a cheerleader? Yeah, lady, we know. You've told everyone.
Rosa honestly reminds me of my own mother. I got pregnant at 17, my mom knew I had a boyfriend and never spoke about s*x with me. When I had to admit to her that I was pregnant she yelled at me and blamed it all on me telling me that I didn't even know how badly I ruined my life. There was no sympathy and no comfort from her. My boyfriend (now husband) and I had to figure everything out ourselves for the sake of our daughter. My mother literally pretended like I wasn't pregnant the whole time. I feel so sorry for all the young women who go through their pregnancies alone. I'm in no way excusing Alexee, but I do think with guidance she would have made better choices and at least not murder her son. Truly a heartbreaking situation.
Did you expect your mom to provide for you, your child and your baby's daddy? We have all being teens but not all of us got pregnant
@@xVadRay wow you're so pleasant. No I didn't expect her to just take care of everything for me, but she could have talked to me and just supported me through it. It's the lack of any empathy from her which ps she got pregnant herself at 18. I just wanted her to care that's all. My boyfriend and I both worked and moved out ourselves, I finished school myself and took care of my baby when she was born.
I’m sorry your mom failed you, she should have at least taken the time to educate you to prevent teen pregnancy or provided emotional support when you found out you were pregnant. Every child deserves a parent who will actually care for them and educate them with love and be there when they need support. Alexi clearly didn’t have that and while it doesn’t excuse her actions, it does explain a lot.
@@xVadRay It sounds like you would be exactly the kind of parent that would drive a teenager into a situation like this out of fear of telling their parent. People make mistakes. If I picked through your life I could find a million things you fucked up on and say 'wow we've all been there but we didn't fuck up the way you did.' Judging other people doesn't make you better than them, it just makes you an untrustworthy confidant.
@@xVadRay are you slow? they probably expected their mother to.. you know.. mother? tell them basics about sex? and actually care and worry about their child? like a normal mother
this is why we need to stop demonizing sex and allow access to abortion WITHOUT parent consent. also STOP LETTING PARENTS IN THE ROOM. she obviously had a mental break. she should be treated not in jail
I had my first child on my 19th birthday. My husband and I had been married for 6 months when our daughter was born. I lived with my grandparents when I found out I was pregnant and I was afraid to tell my grandma. But, I did! Guess what. She didn't disown me, kick me out or kill me! I had my daughter. I didn't throw her in the trash. Thank God I didn't do that because she will be 25 in May and she and her fiance have given me 3 beautiful grandbabies!
it goes without saying that the acts alexei committed were heinous and animalistic to say the least. but i am curious to see a psychologist or a mental health professional break down the dynamic between her and her mother. this is not to excuse her behavior at all but to give more insight because i know it’s not normal. it’s beyond an over protective mom or control freak. there is something more sinister about this situation and i think understanding that dynamic will give more insight into this case. either way alexei had more options than most and unfortunately she chose this at the expense of her own child.
"animalistic"??? Animals DO NOT do such terrible things to their young! They PROTECT them, tooth and claw. Only people are capable of such horrendous deeds.
@@HelenaVanCityactually animals do worst, some species even eat their frail babies because they know they won’t survive and just make the group look weaker, that’s where the phrase “natural selection” comes from
@@HelenaVanCity animals literally will eat their own young if their stress is high enough.
@HelenaVanCity I get your point but bad example
I honestly think it is not that deep /nm. It’s giving conservative Christian mom with very poor sex education.
The father looked so upset, he’s a full grown man and he’s crying, which made me realize how serious this is and I feel so bad for him because I can’t imagine how he’s feeling or how he’s processing this
Because mom and daughter hid this from him. He probably felt so betrayed.
A 19 year old is not a “full grown man.” Literally been a legal adult less than a year and minimum 6 years away from finishing brain development.
@@LGrianIt's old enough to know to not kill a baby
@@LGrianpretty sure they’re talking about the stepdad not the boyfriend. the stepdad was the only one crying.
Men can cry. It's a normal expression of emotion.
As someone who grew up with a narc mom, had 2 kids and an abortion at 19, and also suffered from not just postpartum depression but also postpartum rage, i feel like i can give a little context on what could have been going on in her mind.
What she did was wrong. Absolutely, no doubt. But starting from conception, she was likely scared of her mom. Likely didnt get an abortion for either not understanding insurance or not being able to cover the cost. I often womdered if my guardian at the time was going to be able to see the details of the charge on the insurance statement. My family was not religious, but that fear could have absolutely compounded the issue. So from the point of conception she may have already decided she wasnt going to be a mom, this wasnt her baby, this was just a problem.
The doctors should not have told her she had a miscarriage. They should have kept pressing her on what happened. Ive heard of MANY instances where the mother doesnt show much, especially athletic people. They gave her an "out" and peobably why she seemed so calm afterwards because she thought her problem solved itself. In this case, its probably just hindsight being 20/20, but in the future, if i were hospital staff and knew this case, if anything similar ever happened id be checking everywhere. (Also when her mom seemed sketch i would have asked her to leave the room for patient privacy)
After both of my kids, the postpartum set in. This was coupled with postpartum rage and vivid detailed intrusive thoughts that scared the daylights out of me - they were very red. I would feel like throwing things across the room. Id have to leave the room because i would be scared i might actually act on these impulses eventually. These set in immediately. I cant speak to how she was feeling, but something like having my narc guardian in the next room, depression and rage happening at the same time as having pregnancy and likely puberty hormones coursing thru my veins? I honestly cant say what i would have done in her situation.
I was low contact with my guardian having left the home at 18 but still on their insurance. When i went to get my pill i was also 19, but knew even if she saw the insurance there was little she could do about it or to me, not living in the same house.
This is not me excusing her actions, theyre abhorrent. But also i think the combination of a cocktail of hormones and fear can do things to people's minds that can lead to abhorrent results.
This should be studied alot more to prevent it in the future. She herself and her situation - not just at home but how hospital handled it, should be analyzed to prevent things like this in the future.
I am so lucky that I had a mother that was not judgmental or mean because I was a teenage mom at 16 years old and I do not regret it for the world. My daughter is 20 years old now and she’s in the Marine Corps and she is the best thing that has ever happened to me, I think God for her every day
I think this was done so gracefully. i was nervous to listen but it was fairly unbiased.
I'm a mother. When I was 21, I found out I was pregnant at 7 months, I was in an incredibly difficult situation and could not be a good mother or give a baby a good life. I contacted a lawyer and chose open adoption. 17 years later and I have a good relationship with my daughter and I know I made the right choice. Never once did I consider wrapping my baby in a bag and disguising her as garbage. This young woman murdered her child and she deserves the full consequences of her choices.
for real, even today there are so many options for women who dont want babies and i doubt this girl had just found out because of how sketchy she was before
I got pregnant at 17 and I was forced to tell my mother and I had to grow up for my daughter. Never once did I ever think to throw my baby away. I love that you are sharing your story there's no shame in adoption and there's no shame in keeping your baby. There's only shame when you harm an innocent child.
not judging u at all i believe u did the right thing and the best thing for u and that baby but i have a question why it took u so long to notice and what make u think u was pregnant
@@angelesschultz1570 Yeah, no worries, I thought it was weird too. So, I was overweight at the time, vegetarian, and my job was going door to door for a nonprofit so lots of walking. All that led to me actually losing weight. I still had a, albeit light, period, and she didn't move for a long time (compared to my other baby) and her movements were so small. I think I also carried her towards my back vs to the front like I did with my son. I did have nausea occasionally, but I just chalked it up to the flu or something. Lastly, I had used protection before I broke up with my boyfriend then hadn't had any s*x in 7 months so yeah, I didn't put it all together until I felt her really move and realize my stomach was starting to protrude beyond my chub.
Read the story of Moses… you and your daughter are the exact same story. What a wonderfully blessed mother, daughter and all included. Thank you for your sharing.
I am not blaming the hospital staff at all but I do believe that doctors and nurses should be taught to ask the parents to leave the room when asking about uncomfortable topics such as pregnancy
Agreed. When I was a teenager even though I wasn't sexually active, any time theyd run a pregnancy test (which, honestly at times feels like a waste of time) my grandma would go on this long rant about how she'd beat my ass if I was pregnant and how I should be above that behavior. She and my mom had babies as teens before marriage and I guess she just wanted better for me, but it didn’t make stressful situations better.
Tell that to the parents. They are the ones upset
We are-have family step out for privacy all the time! But it’s difficult to do that when the patient killed a baby in the bathroom before they had that chance.
They’d gotten the +hcg test but they had no idea she was FULL TERM and IN LABOR…. As far as they knew she was in her 1st or 2nd trimester, so I’m sure in their mind they had time to get the mother out and discuss the situation.
@@LlamaLlamaMamaJamathey still told the girl she was pregnant in front of her mother iirc. Or that the test came back positive. Obviously the fault isn’t on the hospital for the murder they were all just doing their jobs. But I imagine it could have ended differently since the red flags were already there and they had discussed asking her to step out before. Personally I think if you have to guess and a parent is acting like that AND the patient isn’t being honest about being pregnant and won’t let doctors touch her that’s more than enough justification to ask the mom to step out even before the blood test came back since they already told them about the urine test. While alexees actions are her own, she was still a scared young woman who could have had more help before it tipped into irreversible territory. Her fear doesn’t justify murder but it’s just sad and I’m sure the staff probably has regret in hindsight.
I work for a clinic connected to a hospital. We have a portal patients can use, and parents actually lose access to everything except super basic stuff once they hit like 11 or 12, to help protect their privacy. Also when I was a kid, they asked my mom to leave on regular checkups while asking the "is there any chance you could be-" questions, even if I wanted her to stay, just to guarantee that I felt comfortable answering honestly. And that was the '90s. The staff definitely didn't do as much as they could to separate potentially abusive parent from child, but in the end, she made her decision, and has to pay the price.
The fact that the step father is the only one showing any emotion- any humanity- is haunting. Hearing him try to hold back his tears while the baby is being discussed was heartbreaking.
I am livid with this case. I can’t believe that the stepdad is the ONLY person visibly upset and crying. SHE WAS IN A HOSPITAL. As a mom, yes postpartum psychosis is real, BUT I also can’t imagine throwing a baby away in a trash can. She has a voice, she could’ve used it to simply say “help me” and they would’ve.
you cant say "yes postpartum psychosis is real" than add but. psychosis makes you do things you would never do in your sane mind and if someone is going through psychosis they are not going to be thinking logically enough to ask for help. they are literally experiencing psychosis. asking for help isnt that simple which is why so many people hurt themselves and others instead of asking for help.
@@babypeach3321she committed a murder but people have been found not guilty because of insanity so i would bet she could just need therapy and not jailtime
@@edenisok894
I do have to add. Being found not guilty due to insanity is not straightforward in court. That argument works in case of delusions, but if there is any possibility you could think, that argument is thrown out. Her doing multiple steps to get rid of the baby, lying about what she was doing, being aware of her surroundings, etc. are already things that crumble that defense. Pregnancy does add even more layers though
The people that don’t agree with you, yes psychosis is real BUT you can only be not responsible for a crime if you literally don’t know what is right and what is wrong. Yes there is temporary insanity but that’s extremely hard to prove. So don’t say there is no “but” because there very much is.
she obviously didn‘t have psychosis to 99% I don‘t even get what this comment is trying to say
I grew up in a traditional Hispanic family. While I don't think anything can justify this girl's actions, I can understand her fear. As a teenage girl my worst nightmare was to get pregnant. My parents never had the sex talk with me, but I was expected to remain "pure" or else they would disown me because my life was essentially over. I would have been terrified of my mother in this situation and while I would have never done anything as horrific as straight up killing a child, there would have been urges to somehow hide my pregnancy or even end it by ending my life. I just think a bigger conversation needs to be had about why this girl was more terrified of facing her mom than being a murderer. My goal as a future parents is to provide a safe space for my child and be their guide during the good AND the bad times. I remember talking to my mom about birth control when I was 20 years old and she absolutely freaked out. That led me to believe that I couldn't trust her when it came to the real life stuff I was going through. It's just sad.
She is not a teenager if she is old enough to have sex, she knew risks.people really need to stop treating her like victim she knew what she was doing, she is a grown ass adult even if she lives with her parents. I find the excuse bullshit that she was that scared of her mom. There are so many kids afraid of their parents but they’re not committing crime like this. The girl is not victim she is a criminal, the baby is the victim. If I offended anyone with my harsh opinion I apologize. This whole family needs therapy
@@lomapatel1389this🙌 I'm Hispanic and had really strict parents. I understand the fear 100% but I know just like anyone not to kill my child . She is not a victim.
@@Killu_Ana Hi I am a Hindu and i have strict parents so I understand but that doesn’t mean because you have strict parents it’s ok to kill she could have just delivered the baby in private hiding it from her and speaking to the doctors and nurses privately and let them know she doesn’t want the baby. All trying to say she doesn’t deserve sympathy. She knew what she was doing.
precisely this. everyone's behavior seems so straightforward to me. a woman's "purity" is such a huge thing in society and especially so in traditional middle class POC/immigrant communities. i don't think pointing this out = empathizing or agreeing with alexi's actions. it's just that it's easier for some of us to see where the behavior stems from even if we, personally, wouldn't do the same thing in the circumstance
@@lomapatel1389People are teenagers until they turn 20, it's not based on how much they know or if they're old enough for anything, it's based on their development.
Not all people really know what sex even is because not all countries have sex ed and not all parents really talk to their children about that.
Alexi might be a victim of her mother's abuse judging by her actions. If she was so terrified of her mother finding out, she probably had a reason to be terrified. Her being a victim doesn't give her the right to commit crimes obviously, it just explains why she decided to do it in the first place. I think it's good that people try to analyse her behaviour and find underlying issues, that can help prevent things like this from happening in the future. So yes, Alexi is both (probably) a victim AND a criminal.
The baby is obviously someone who suffered the worst and is the victim of the crime that his "mother" commited.
(I want to say, I obviously don't condone or support any of Alexi's actions, they're disgusting and evil, but there are just many details that make this situation complicated. A lot of people also relate to having a mother like Alexi's so they comment about it, which is good because again in the long run it can save lives or make them better.)
Can't believe her boyfriend kept dating her after she killed her son. It's so gross.
This is why you need to have an open relationship with your kids.
I completely agree
It scares me how much my mom is like Alexie's mom. I put myself in Alexie's shoes and everything that mom said is exactly what I would've expected my mom to say. I can tell that the mom is VERY controlling and overbearing and that REALLY impacts the child (speaking from experience).
Same!!! I don't find what the mom said weird at all. I think in Alex' and her Mom's minds, the baby is just a thing at this point which is awful but not at all unbelievable
Alexi is an adult. No matter how the mom would have reacted, the mom shouldn't have control over her and alexi could just move out. She's 100% responsible
@@aliasabri6775While I agree she is responsible for what she did, having a controlling and possibly emotionally abusive parent is very damaging to one's mental health and thinking. Especially when it's your mother who's feeding you with negative and controlling thoughts, you become paranoid and scared for things that could happen if the parent finds out something as serious as you being pregnant. I can see from her point of view why she would react in a negative way, and I'm definitely not giving her a get out of jail free card, but it's not just as simple as moving out or just "being an adult" as well as "she shouldn't have control over her", that's just not how having a controlling and manipulative parent works.
@@aliasabri6775coming from not a great household, that’s not true. They typically make you feel isolated and like no one would actually help you in their time of need. They also will have financial control over you as well so you can’t save and it’s just not so cut and dry sadly. I can’t say that I would have wrapped the baby in the trash bag, but I might have left it on top and made mention that there was something strange in the trash, but I have also been in places of dissociation and don’t have full control over what I do… the situation for sure is more complex. There’s no excuse for killing a child. But it’s important to find out the how and why
This is every indian mom. Though such a case has negligible chances to occur in india.
I ALMOST believed that she didn’t know, I ALMOST believed that her mother didn’t know either, until I saw the photos of her, clearly full term pregnant. Everyone knew. Her mother knew, she knew, her classmates knew.
She knew, but I can see how her mom didn't know (she suspected it)
Yup, just said this in a comment. The pictures are so clear it’s crazy how pregnant she looks.
Absolutely right. This has to be a case of collective denial, starting in an abusive or narcissistic family that keeps secrets and values appearances above all else.
where did you find these pictures?
@@jahkugou She shows it at the end of the video, or you can just google her name and cheerleading pictures.
As a mother, I could never imagine doing anything even close to this. My first pregnancy happened when I was 19, however it turned out to be ectopic, and any choice I had in what I would do was taken from me. The same with my second at age 24.
When my first son was born in 2015, he was incredibly sick, requiring surgery just days after birth. He was taken to a hospital away from me, after an emergency cesarean, weighing 2.1kg (4.11lb, for those in the US). We got to hold him in the OR, and once again when they knew the ambulance was almost there to take him to the children’s hospital, and it was another week before we were allowed to hold him again.
I suffered extreme postnatal depression and anxiety because of everything that happened in that first month, the trauma of his birth, and then all of the health issues that came up over the next few years. I would do it all again in a heartbeat. I love my son in a way that I never knew that I could love, and all of that pain and stress was 1,000,000% worth it.
My youngest son is just six months old. I spent the last three months of pregnancy bedridden due to extreme inflammation of the spine (there was a literal hump of inflammation at the base of my spine, causing me to be unable to stand up straight, bear weight, or walk properly). I battled severe prenatal depression and anxiety during this time, and that became postnatal after his birth. It has been nowhere near as severe as with his big brother, as La-La was born healthy, where H-Man wasn’t, and I still feel the same.
Honestly, the most depressing part of it is that I can see how severely affected I was last time, and the kind of mothering my big boy missed out on getting from me at the time.
My second oldest sister had the most extreme PND I have ever seen - she refused to be a mother to her eldest son for the first 18 months of his life, leaving the rest of the family (mostly me, tbh) to raise him. She was 17 when he was born, and it was horrible seeing how devastating it was for her to try and gain that relationship BACK with him after she had found herself again.
It is entirely possible for PND to cause people to do irrational things far beyond what they would normally be capable of, and even more so with postnatal psychosis.
I don’t think this was that. Shock, sure. Controlling mother, sure. But it being enough to cause her to kill her own baby as soon as he was born??? I don’t know about that…
56:42 The officer didn't say "dead son". He said "decedant" referencing "one who has died". He was referring to the baby using an official term often used in the law governing estates or trusts. It does kind of sound like he said "dead son" bc of how he pronounces it but if you listen closely you can tell the difference. The first time i saw this clip (last year when it first came out) i had to listen a few times to figure out what he was saying.
This young woman knew exactly what she was doing. She 100% knew she was pregnant, and even bragged to her friends about naming the baby Alex. She continued cheerleading, knowing how huge her belly appeared with her tight uniform. Her mother also knew she was pregnant. She knew when she went to the hospital that her pain was because she was in labor!! And giving birth scared her, or being a mom at 19 scared her. She had that baby in the bathroom, and the baby was alive. She tears the umbilical cord apart, and proceeds to literally wrap the baby in plastic trash bags, put him in the trash can, and even covered him with other trash. She placed him in the bottom of the trash can TO HIDE HIM. The plastic was suctioned to his face becauee of his attempts to draw in breath, but could only breath plastic!! Who knows... she could have bitten that umbilical cord to rip it apart. His autopsy officially lists "entrapment" as the cause of death, due to being alive when born but placed in the plastic bag... And the autopsy DID list it as a homicide. He had enough oxygen found in his lungs to open them up, hence proof of live birth (breathing after born). She knowingly and willingly MURDERED HER CHILD.
Sounds like post partum depression/psychosis
@@someone2447post partum depression doesn't work like that.
@@someone2447 yon don't get postpartum depression OR psychosis as soon as you give birth.
@@LexMeRep post partum defines as, after birth was given. If she gave birth, she can instantly fall into a psychosis. This has happened to other women before, which is why there are multiple nurses in the room to assist and the baby, in many cases, is taken away until the mother is ready to see it.
@@maryirish8382 You actually can. Even in the wild some animals kill their babies as soon as they give birth.
The stepdad is an amazing grandfather for simply caring about the very existence of Baby Doe. With the way everyone else is simply disregarding his existence, I’m worried that that baby wouldn’t have had much of a chance even if he survived and stayed with that family…
Honestly, same.😢😢😢
She could have very easily called for a nurse while in the restroom giving birth & could have let him live - he would’ve been adopted & loved. Alexee chose to murder him instead. She’s a murderer & must pay the price.
if he was an amazing grand father, why didn't he get her prenatal care. you people are so quick to label men amazing for doing nothing. what a joke
He probably cared cause it was his baby!
@@reneecaldwell6558same thoughts
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The first time I heard of this case, I couldnt stop crying. Up until now, I still get emotional.
Coming from a nurse’s perspective, I feel for the baby, but I really feel for the medical staff. The guilt I would have for not having found the baby in time would kill me I think. This hurt so many people
@@chicahoneyit's not up to the doctors to tell her she's pregnant. She was denying everything and not saying anything. She popped the baby out & still chose to put him in the trash.
I understand the guilty feeling, but they did nothing wrong. No sane human would suspect someone to kill an infant inside a hospital.
@@chicahoney I actually watched the video. The staff told daughter and mom she was pregnant before the restroom… Pretty key part of story. Maybe things would have gone a lot different if they told this news to the daughter privately. A legal adult . But I am not blaming these hospital staff. They clearly didn’t foresee this situation unfolding.
@@tb564Exactly! ❤
@@chicahoneyUm no they kept denying that she hadn’t had s3x. That she was a virgin over & over. The pre positive result wouldn’t of mattered. Also there is a thing as false positive. That mother would of claimed is wasn’t true & held onto that denial. That’s why they wanted a blood test for solid proof. Overall noo it wouldn’t have saved that baby. That girl had it all planned out what she was going to do. QUIT BLAMING the hospital staff for a MURDERER. You sound like that crazy lawyer she has that said “she handled it the right way” y’all are freaking nuts. I hope she gets MANY years to her sentence in October.
This is what happens in a society that doesn’t have good sex education, shame/punishment around sex, toxic relationship with parents and little to no support for pregnant women and new mothers.
its just not tho i think any person with common sense knows not to do what she does
@@zosiakrasnopolska1338Key word here being "Common sense" which many tend to lack
@@cheeryberrie what bro even with no sex education i know not to dump my baby in a bin
THIS IS FAMILY IS MENTAL!!!
"She didn't look pregnant." She absolutely did!! Have you seen her cheerleading pics? Also, from the reports I've seen, they did inform her that she was pregnant after the urinalysis, and that's when she insisted she was a virgin. But between taking a blood sample and receiving that result, she gave birth and murdered her newborn in the bathroom.
Someone should have sent the mother some of the cheerleading pic's 3weeks before the birth. I'm sure Alexis wore very baggy clothes and hid away in her room.
@@barrettlori9249but even then that is very suspicious behavior for your kid to start shifting in habits
the hospital staff was probably so heartbroken to hear they were accused of malpractice. they did everything they could to help that baby. her bad acting makes me beyond angry.
Are you mental rn? The staff did not once stop to think that a patient that refuses touch and is hovered over by her mother, shouldn’t be told in front of that mother that she is pregnant, while already in pain. (She was there for excruciating pain, they find out she is pregnant…. But decide to wait around for a second test to start treating her, but spill the tea already, then let’s leave them alone)
@@Philemaphobiaso you believe the hospital staff is at fault?
True. Its all her fault and mothers, 100%. Although. ANY time Ive EVER been to ER for anything, 1st thing they do is pregnancy test, even at 50yrs old. Why they didn't do this for a 19yr old is beyond me. NINETEEN! Not 12, not 13. 19!! For them to think theres no way she could be pregnant, was negligent. They should've immediately done a pregnancy test, especially with the way she was acting, the types of pain she was having
I think there are more people at fault than just the girl and her mother, yes. A lot more actually in the end.
Girl clearly did not trust her mother at all and was caught in a denial spiral…. I think hospital staff should have separated them as soon as the first preg test came out positive. She wasn’t a minor, discussing medical matters in front of her mother (possibly with forced ‚consent‘) could even be seen as a HIPPA violation (god I hope it’s written that way) @@angelvenegas483
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