“Good Girl” Nurse Killed 7 Babies To Get Doctor’s Attention & Sympathy
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The fact that she was saved by a nurse when she was a baby and she repayed that by killing other babies is absolutely unhinged and sad. What a psycho.
Exactly!!!
I wouldn’t even be surprised if that was also a lie for sympathy 💆🏻♀️
@@melz4766💯💯💯🎯
Sounds like she wishes the nurse would have let her die.
@@melz4766 tf
As a nurse, from experience I can tell you sometimes some of the most evil people work in Healthcare and it's scary.
You have any stories? I’m curious.
@Nurrr-ko6wd Yep. Even from recently, a nurse at my job got fired after she was caught trying to suffocate a nonverbal patient with a pillow. Apparently, she tried to do this many times to other patients. Usually, she would do this with an intern present and thought she could intimidate them into not telling higher-ups, but someone was brave and then the ball started rolling.
@@JoyNovaholy shit
@@JoyNova OMG THATS INSANE
As a patient, I get that vibe also sometimes
nurses do send letters, i got one after my baby had died.... but to receive one from the killer is a whole different level of tormenting. so heartless
We have a NICU nurse that took care of my 27 weeker twins when they were born that will be attending their 7th birthday party in 2 weeks. She sends Christmas cards, Halloween, Easter baskets. She's our adopted grandma. She is absolutely the most amazing person I have ever met.
@angelacrouch4129 good to know wonderful nurses still exist and they're not all monsters like her
sorry about your sweetheart ❤
I'm sorry for your loss.
I’m sorry about your baby.
Grief vampire. What an amazing way to describe her. This grief was her life blood. The fact is that after a two week vacation she needed her hit of grief as soon as she came back.
Demonic
Grief vampire made me think of the show “what we do in the shadows “. It’s actually a very funny show.
Don’t idolize it
@@mellocoops3585they’re not?
@@mellocoops3585
How is that idolizing anything? The fact that they used terminology similar to an addictive drug, and many people look down on addicts, gives it the exact opposite feel, actually. At the very least, it's a fairly neutral and blunt version of opinion.
THANK YOU TO THOSE 4 DOCTORS WHO DIDNT BACK AWAY AND FOUGHT! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
they likely saved future potential victims! and brought justice to the other victims of course ❤
@@sheskiwiw Agreed, but just imagine the trauma.. I cannot imagine. I'm infertile, so things like this make me see red. But I agree, they probably saved many babies, they're heroes and won't be forgotten, neither will the poor babies 😞 may the rest in peace 🕊️
@@Archon_of_Freedom_I wish I could give you my uterus. I have chronic pain and don’t want children and sometimes I feel bad for wasting this gift but at the same time, I’m in pain everyday and don’t want a child.
@@imjudgingyou000 Aww, I hear you, I appreciate your kind words, I have chronic pain, but it's more minor, not to where I can't work or anything. So I cannot imagine having full on Chronic pain.. I'm sorry you have to endure that 🙏 thanks again, I appreciate you.
The amount of times suspicions were raised about this nurse and NOTHING was done by the higher-ups. Just to avoid a lawsuit. Shame on them.
I mean they can't risk punishing her with no proof and it ends up being false because the nurse could sue them and the hospital could go bankrupt/shut down
yeah they didn't have proof so it wouldn't be smart
@@twinkletoes5866 The thing is, if there's reasonable suspicion, even if you have no proof, you have someone you know you need to monitor or do something about.
If you owned a little shop and money kept disappearing, you would probably do something to see which of the two cashiers was doing it, right? You don't have proof, but you don't shrug your shoulders. You GET the proof.
Why not do something to discover why the infants are dying? Put in cameras? Make it so that multiple people have to be present? Something? The doctors certainly figured out what to do.
They should have investigated. If you look at the facts, the infant mortality rate during her shifts was off the charts. At yet they did nothing.
@@twinkletoes5866 even without proof they could have at least investigated. They didn't even help with the outside investigation.
Knowing that these twins and triplets are forever missing their sibling is heart wrenching. My sister is my best friend, I love her more than anyone else in my life. She stole their chance to know and love their siblings.
💔
Real can’t even imagine the heartache she caused
serously. three of my siblings are triplets, and I know that they would be very different if one of them wasn't here. I would be, too.
@@weirdsio2464 :( my baby were double it hurts to even say and one recently passed first time mom. I was with one and came back to see the other one unresponsive immediately called 911 and the emt arrived some seemed to get started with aed yet this one specific man was so mean n cold to me he told them to stop amd lesving with baby to er wasnt even able to get into ambulance car with baby but in separate one. In hospital pronounced fatal. Saddest day of my life. I kno his double misses him:( im upset emt arrived and literally did nothing just transported bby to er. Its known that every minute is precious and they just transported did not use defribelator or do cpr nothing im so upset thinling i cud rely on health team/emts.
@@weirdsio2464I am a triplet and I 100 percent agree
I was a premature baby and my mom was a nurse. After birthing me, my mom ended up in the ICU while I ended up in the NICU. There was one nurse, for no apparent reason to anyone else my mom forbid to be around me. Everyone made fun of my mom and even all these years later they still crack jokes at how she forbid that nurse. But now, I am thankful because who knows what my mom sensed and may have had good reason.
Maybe she had a gut feeling over this person. If you don’t mind my asking, did you ever ask directly what it was that she thought about this person?
@@lindag5851 i think youre right. i dont mind at all, tbh even tho now i feel like its silly...i never asked. she has dementia now so i lost that opportunity. i regret not just simply asking instead of judging
This same situation happened in my family back in TX. Decades later Nurse (Genene) Jones has finally got the justice she deserves.
As your mom was a nurse, she probably saw something others wouldn’t have noticed and found her to be ‘unsafe’.
@@soude85 you’re right, that’s a very good point. Thank you for sharing
She was right, everybody is better off without her… at least she had self awareness.
Indeed.
If only she would've offed herself like she did with the babies, but no. She loves her life, she's not remorseful
yeah hard to say if she had some wire loose that maintained a thread enough of empathy that it was somewhat torturing her....... or if she wrote that shit just so that someone would 'feel sorry for her' if they ever searched her house.
Shit like this, you can't really explain it cause all healthy thought process simply can't comprehend what someone like that thinks.
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@@lenajohnson6179you see this is hard for me to even say because there are some people who have mental health issues will have some type of remorse but this she too much of a monster no amount of mental health issues won’t save her from this
as a nurse at maternity ward. see a mom walk out without her baby is the most heartbreaking things to see. she is so evil
Stillbirths/losing children (of any age) is literally what scared me away from getting a career healthcare. I wouldn’t be able to watch a parent grieve like that, I can’t imagine being the cause of that grief. It’s sickening in such a visceral way.
And to know she was the cause of all that pain to the parents.
And she put her colleagues through that self-blame and grief _seven times._
@@kyleinthejar6829 Same. I can take gore and stuff like that (it would still be heartbreaking to me).. but I don't think I could handle losing a baby. I would feel guilty for the rest of my life.
@@error-try-again-laterShe's an abomination to mankind..
A friend of mine had a little boy who was under Lucy's care. It was a very tough time for his parents. Thankfully he survived. There is no place on this earth for her in my opinion.
How old is he?
Is he healthy and well now did he suffer at all afterwards x?
3 months iirc
@@b14203now he’s 6
As a mother who's baby was in the NICU for MONTHS this is the most terrifying, heartbreaking, horrible thing I've ever seen. We put so much trust in strangers to keep our babies alive and to think someone like this could be anywhere..
We need free, REGULAR mental health care for medical staff, not only to weed out the people like this, but because Healthcare workers go through SO much and when lives depend on it, they need to be 100% well mentally
Frankly we should just have state funded healthcare but that's not going to happen in the US. Too much influence on the law by people who profit from the evil system.
I'm not even halfway through the video and it's giving me anxiety hearing about these heinous acts. I don't think I can listen in one sitting, it's just too heart breaking!
@@yogi8897 That is very understandable. There is always an other video to watch.
Totaly agree. Mental Health Care for health workers would spare alot of pain. Having worked in a psychiatric ward for far too long
it must be weird to be a parent of a serial killer. too.
she wanted to be the victim. she thought she’d gain sympathy points. absolutely horrendous
Lies from prosecutors withholding a lot of evidence and UK MSM have been complicit. For example, 17 babies died not 7.
Nurse Lucy Letby was on duty for less than 50% of those deaths! A lot of information was missing including what her diary said. Please research more? czcams.com/video/rW1YdrgCeDM/video.html
I think she wanted to be seen as a hero,a definite know it all,for sure a very sick twisted individual & what's more she knew she was, couldn't help herself the sick b@$ch
How did you know
@@elon6784because it’s obvious through context clues. Not everything needs to be said directly to you to be understood 💀
@@Awesomekids14902This🤦♀️
She doesn't just commit murder, this is psychological and emotional torture. I'm glad she was convicted. This is insane.
She gleefully watched the families after she murdered their infants. She definitely got off on torturing them.
Couldn’t it also be jealousy for what she doesn’t have?
@@nyanrachasshe apparently went to the parents Facebook pages after the deaths to read posts about the babies as well
Edit: just got to the part of the video where this is already mentioned. This was probably the most f**ked up part of the story for me
I used to be a nurses aide, and I absolutely knew nurses and aids that were like this we used to call him super nurses. They are the most obnoxious backstabbing people you’ll ever work with. Usually they have a really weird personality and they treat people like their cat rather than people, they’re all smiles and what not but they’re like hurry up. Hurry up hurry up even if you have plenty of time to do what you need to do. This is a problem in nursing. If they’re good nurses they work together with everybody. Those nurses are great, but super nurses were a pain in the ass as were the nurses That would sit around and play solitaire and eat the patient’s food and go for 50 smoke breaks and not do anything to help. I was actually injured on the job and had a nurse didn’t even help me. I laid on the floor for 15 minutes while she was up at the desk eating.
@@adriantorres3221this is the same for doctors. Guess nobody likes obnoxious co-workers.
The patient’s medical records being kept in her home are definitely her trophies. This is disturbing beyond belief.
it is madness that no one questioned this
It makes me so angry how they all suspected Lucy of being a killer and they could've stopped her so much earlier had they actually investigated her but the hospital was being lazy and kept letting her get away with it over and over again... that's so messed up
Honestly, it was worse than being lazy, they were being selfish. They valued their company over the LIVES OF NEWBORN BABIES!
It’s not even that they were lazy, they made the whistleblower APOLOGISE to her. Some suspect racism even, but it was disgusting to hear him describe how they silenced him.
Not lazy they were protecting their MONEY
Imagine going through 60 HOURS of labour and 9months of pregnancy and preparing for baby arrival only for a nurse of all people to murder your baby in cold blood! No mother would ever fully recover from trauma like this! Hope those parents are getting the help they need to deal with their unbearable grief
What do you mean a nurse of all people??
@@herbalteasucks2873a nurse who’s responsibility is to take care and support the patients and their babies ofc…
@@herbalteasucks2873Nurses are supposed to be Gods angels taking care of sick babies and the elderly they are not supposed to be cruel and deadly that’s what I mean and it’s already clear
For a insane reason for a married dude’s attention or some other narcissistic reason
@@herbalteasucks2873they have a duty of care that’s supposed to make them attempt to do their jobs to the best of their ability that sometimes even extends to most aspects of life.
Thank you for humanizing the babies by giving them names instead of just calling them baby ABC..etc.
@@iluvuuuuuuuuuuuuu She’s not supposed to, she didn’t know the babies names either because it wasn’t publicised. OP meant that calling them Andy, Bella, Charlie was better than just being babies A, B, or C, which they were in court.
@@iluvuuuuuuuuuuuuu If you were to actually watch the video. (I mean, it was literally stated on the intro of the video, how could you have missed that??) The names are NOT public due to the requests of the parents/families to stay anonymous. Meaning they are not publicly available, and should not be.
And, if she did have the full names, it's incredibly disrespectful to use/mention it due to the fact that you're basically disregarding the requests of the victims.
These are merely nicknames/aliases to refer to the victims. Not their actual names.
Have at least consideration to the privacy of these people who have experienced such morbid and traumatic events. Cause then again, it may not seem like much but names are still considered private information and should not be given away like flyers for some product. :/
She called out names so fast it was a bit comical because I can’t recall one name sometimes.
@@DynastMon Exactly! Couldn't have said it any better.
@@bbrstrcwhy?
When I was almost a year old, I was less than 15 pounds, doctors would t believe my mom as she begged them to check if I was sick they thought it was abuse. A nurse finally convinced them, it turned out I needed major open heart surgery, and a special type never done before on infants. Nurses are seriously the hero’s of the medical world, don’t let this story make y’all forget!
It almost seems like grief was a form of entertainment for Lucy, like it was a fantasy she wanted to be a part of. She read books by grieving mothers, hung around the families, wrote letters to them, looked up their Facebook posts about their losses. Her decorating one of her bedrooms as a nursery, I don't even think she was mourning the fact that she didn't have children - She wanted to pretend that she'd LOST a baby. It kind of reminds me of the kind of people you sometimes see online who make up wildly tragic life stories for attention. She saw the awful things these families were going through as an interesting soap opera.
Dr. Crush was 100% having an emotional affair, but Lucy wasn’t killing for his attention only! she’s a grief vulture who killed those babies and then forced the parents to interact with her so she could soak up their grief!
exactly
Yeah she got off on torturing and killing, his attention was just an added bonus.
Lucy
Sorry, which one's Lori? I thought the nurse's name was Lucy.
@@Roadent1241they meant Lucy
The way people defend her and have been fundraising for her makes me sick. Serial killers, murderers and terrorists have no race, colour or gender. They do not need to look a certain way to be evil. The number of people and even newsreaders commenting on how lovely she looks or how innocent or friendly and how this is not how a serial killer looks, makes me sick. Lucy Letby may be a white, blonde hair and blue eyed lady but she is a stone cold and pure evil serial baby murderer.
Indeed. Regardless of the skin color or gender.
Exactly and do these friends of hers expected Lucy to show them her dark side, to expose her little dark secret.
She actually looks crazy to me, you can see evil in her eyes.
They said the same about Ted Bundy
Right?! How many Nazi gaurds were blonde hair with blue eyes? Why are we even still using that phrase?!
As a doctor in an emergency hospital, knowing how much effort goes into trying to save every single person that comes through your door, let alone all the trust that patients put into you, and for these babies to be betrayed by the person that was supposed to help them, I cannot even explain the rage that I feel towards this monster.
Atleast it will help you be onguard and more aware to watch out for things like this happening where you work. Whether it be to infants or adult patients.
well said. It ruins trust. When my bf had to go to hospital recently, immediately I was on 'narcissistic nurse, doctor watch', who is going to be the serial killer, who is putting the trips in and what is in the drips, is there a witness in the ward, etc. It is certainly hard when visiting hours is in the afternoon and you can't check up on the patient in the morning.....My bf was a middled aged man so many he is less risk of being attacked like a baby, female or elderly female patient. In any occupation there are rogues, and they have to be weeded out early on, My local drs live in our village and I get to hear what they are like via their builders, as sometimes we have the same builders, so I get to know the otherside of the doctors helps too, what their home life is like. behind close doors they could be very different
I lost 2 sons in the hospital NICU. And yeah, it was painful. It was over 20 years ago...and sometimes I still think of what could have been. On the bright side, I have 1 gorgeous and amazing son that survived. He was 3 lb and 4 oz when born and he spent a little over a month in hospital after being born. He is now a big strong man of 26 and I can only smile at this moment even just thinking about him.
How expensive is a lost baby?
@@jragon9215 I'm in Canada so we just paid funeral costs
I’m sorry for your loss. That is horrible. Hope you and your son are living an amazing life
@@jragon9215what a WILD thing to ask someone bro
@@fauna5328 I think it’s a fair question, people need to know that having a lost baby costs a lot of money, especially the women hitting the wall and wait to have kids.
As a nurse, just to reassure people, air bubbles in the veinous system are not dangerous by themselves. They're normal when we set up IV lines, although we really try our best to remove all of them. Sometimes, in emergency situations, we do push some air bubbles, but it's fine. They get carried through the heart, in the pulmonary arteries, and they dissolve in the pulmonary capillaries. However, injecting many ml's of air does cause consequences, and can even cause death, especially in tiny babies. So, don't freak out if you see some air bubbles in the IV line. I had a mother who took scissors to cut down the IV line because of an air bubble that was slowly making its way into her child, and that was horrible, the child bled, IV liquid was everywhere. It made such a mess (the child was fine, though). Just freak out if you see a nurse inject a whole syringe full of air - that's really bad.
Thanks for this! I got really freaked out when she said that.
@@kimberlyteposcorona you’re quite welcome !
Poor woman, I can imagine her being so scared after hearing this story.
I was about to say.. I'm also a nurse and thanks for reassuring people reading through the comment section. 👍🏼
This.
This plus the whole insulin in the feeding bag hypothesis... 😞
I lost my first daughter, did not get to take her home from the hospital and the doctor was fired three months later since the infant mortality rates under his care was abnormally high. The attorney I had did nothing and the man just opened a practice else where. Knowing this woman is receiving justice gives me the smallest amount of gratitude that not all people who are sketchy get away with it.
What's his name? He must see Justice too
I'm so sorry,I can't even imagine 😔
I am so sorry for your loss 💛 Seeing this man continue practicing and possibly endangering other children is horrible.
I’m so sorry to hear that:(❤. Please name drop the assholes that did you no justice please 🙏🏻.
That’s horrifying I’m so sorry. It will come back around. Evil people can’t hide there nature forever. I pray your little one is loved and cared for on the other side
Imagine being an only child but KNOWING you were born a twin or triplet.
People who have twins that died while they were babies are called twinless twins. And they swear that it effects them for the rest of their lives. Like a piece is missing from them always.
That's how my husband is. Only he ate (absorbed) his twin while in utero. Because of this he has two sets of nipples. He's not sad about it though. Says he won the right to life.
The same thing happened to me as the above comment. I was a twin but absorbed it, so it's just me on this planet. But there have been times where I wish I could have met my twin.
@@caitlinwarren461it’s absolutely not the same thing! That absorption happens extremely early in the pregnancy literally in the embryo stage, not even close to being the same thing as too full fledged infants sharing a womb, growing together all those months and maybe even sharing a placenta and being born into a whole human being to them be killed after being born, that’s not even near the same thing. That’s a reach… it’s like comparing an early stage miscarriage ( I’ve had a late stage miscarriage) and trying to say it’s the same thing these women experience by losing their babies by the hands of that evil nurse. Crazy comparison.
calm down, how it's not the same thing if the comment above says that the person also absorbed his twin, they didn't say anywhere its the same thing this nurse did
you're attacking wrong person
Heart braking ,Bless you for sharing your story dear ❤️ @@chrissmarie455
Havent watched the whole thing yet but as a NICU mom with a weird nurse this terrifies me. That creepy lady always wanted me to leave "her baby" and was sad when "we took him away". She cornered me and my parents separately and told us to give him up to adoption. So grateful she didnt do anything sinister to my innocent son. I would much rather have psychological trauma from her calling cps on me than killing my son
What??? Your nurse tried to convince you to put ur baby up for adoption???? Did you tell this to the administrators of the hospital? This is super concerning.
Glad he’s ok 🙂 But that’s still almost as sickening as if she was another Lucy
Did you file a report? If not you really need to. That could be a dangerous person that would hurt or steal a baby.
Well... You were probably way too young. You look 19 at the most and if your parents were with you, she probably thought you were too young to handle being a mom.
You REALLY should report that. That's so concerning.
It terrifies me to think that there are people that would do this on our planet.
Ikr the fact this could happen to anyone… our planet sucks.
Same it's so terrifying
Commenting before watching SO you may
mention this but people were reporting her for
mouths and even more had suspection of her
doing stuff like this but the higher ups didn't care
and brushed off the reports its very sickening of the reports against her and nothing was done till it was way too late
@@catman1048you can always move elsewhere. We have enough of people like you anyway 😂
Yeah it’s absolutely terrifying . Makes me want to have a home birth when my wife gets pregnant
“Angel of Death” usually use a painless way to kill patients. Lucy knew ways to take the babies without hurting them…she often chose VERY painful, risky methods!
evil
That’s horrific
@@es4242I don't think the second parents would be able to do anything else then
@@demonslayereren3970splash about in a red puddle 😅
She's just PURE EVIL and murderer
Why weren’t they more worried about a lawsuit from the parents?!? Or the wellbeing of literal children. Bad bureaucracy is so damn frustrating
As someone who was born two months premature and proceeded to yank out her own feeding tube, I am grateful that the nurses weren't evil and actually tried to help compared to this crazy woman.
I feel like another reason why she targeted twins and triplets is because they would still have to stay in the hospital for the other babies. She could see them grieve and suffer in person. Such a twisted human being, if we could even call her that.
SHE IS NOT A HUMAN, ANIMAL, ENTITY OR SOUL, SHE'S A MONSTER SMH lol!?~😱😭😤😡😅💀☠
That's ghoulish. Probably true, but as a twin, it just sends chills all over me. The surviving multiple is going to live with the trauma, too.
Also twins are way more likely to be premature and need to stay in the NICU
Lies from prosecutors withholding a lot of evidence and UK MSM have been complicit. For example, 17 babies died not 7.
Nurse Lucy Letby was on duty for less than 50% of those deaths! A lot of information was missing including what her diary said. Please research more? czcams.com/video/rW1YdrgCeDM/video.html
Yes and twins are wayyyyy more likely to be in the NICU so the nurses are also naturally coming across them way more than the general population would
My first child was stillborn, and I can tell you, 21 years later, it's still the worst grief I have ever felt
I’m so sorry for your loss ❤
@@aleeka99 Thank you 🫂
I’m so sorry for your loss
I’m very sorry, that is a very traumatic experience for people who never even would have known that baby had a possibility of living without being told. My girlfriend was meant to have an older sister who sadly passed due to her mother doing drugs and drinking alcohol when pregnant. That’s quite a large source of trauma for her and I really couldn’t even fathom how awful that would feel the mother. I sincerely hope your doing better.
Sorry for your loss
The guilt that the mother felt reminds me of the quote from the father of one of the Itaewon Tradgedy victims where he says “a child who loses their parents is called an orphan, but there is no words for a parent who loses their child. I can now think of one: sinner.” Because of the immense amount of grief and guilt he he was experiencing after the loss of his child. Losing a child I’ve heard is one of the most agonizing types of pain and hearing how the mother blamed herself for so long shatters my heart, I hope these families can find healing and peace
Before my sibling was born, my stepmother refused to go that hospital, due to the infant deaths.
Year or so after, this shows up in the news, i am so glad my sibling wasnt born there.
Her taking those records of babies she killed is how serial killers will have a keepsake from their victims. As a mother who lost two babies, my heart breaks for the parents.
I’m so sorry for your loss ❤
I am so unbelievably sorry for your loss. I have no words. I lost a brother and sister. My sister was a baby and my brother and mom passed when I was younger. I saw my dad change from a big, strong, happy man into a frail broken shell. Not being able to handle, losing his wife and two children he drank himself to death. Which, obviously left me alone to pick up all the pieces. The pain losing a try the biggest fear of most people. I will keep you and your beautiful babies in my prayers for the rest of my days. Sending you so much strength and healing .
Lies from prosecutors withholding a lot of evidence and UK MSM have been complicit. For example, 17 babies died not 7.
Nurse Lucy Letby was on duty for less than 50% of those deaths! A lot of information was missing including what her diary said. Please research more? czcams.com/video/rW1YdrgCeDM/video.html
I'm really sorry for your loss. I hope you're surrounded with love.
I'm sorry for your loss
My theory is that she was living vicariously through the children she killed. So basically since her life was saved by the nurse in a NICU unit, she kills babies and pretends that she is the one who was killed and the parents who are grieving are her parents. This would explain why she watches the parents grieve and why she checks up on their social media so often so she can see the posts they made for "her". This makes sense because in her note she says "I don't deserve mom and dad" and "I don't deserve to live" and "I killed them on purpose because I'm not good enough" meaning she feels guilty for the type of person she is and she feels like she didn't deserve to be saved as a baby in the NICU and instead of taking responsibility for herself she blames the nurse for saving her. So in her head she is acting as the nurse who saved her and she is repeatedly killing herself as a baby. That would also explain why she acts like a baby because she believes that she is the victim for being saved. Obviously this is just a theory but it makes more sense to me than her just doing it for the doctor's attention because I feel like it's much deeper rooted than that.
This is exactly what I was thinking
This makes sense, but it also means she had a lot of self hate before killing the first baby😢
I agree. She was doing this for herself and the babies were just a byproduct of what she had to do to get that feeling. Whatever feeling she was looking for she got it by watching the grieving parents and staff. Also babies are helpless and can't defend or talk about what happened if they survived. This is so cruel and i believe with 1000% certainty she is responsible. Why save all the documents why look people up on Facebook. I am a hospice nurse and I have never once saved documents or called the families months after their passing. It's weird and not at all appropriate
Nope I think she just a dangerous person!! And like to kill the innocent!!
This is breaking my mind rn omg that’s so evil
Her man calling her out…”but we have a nursery at home.” 😂 What are you trying to say? Lol
I can't imagine the horror of finding out your memorial pendant was made by the killer. I wish for peace, for every one of these parents.
I can't stop thinking about the parents going home to their baby supplies, their nurseries, the little clothes, and just...knowing that it was all taken away.
And purpoesfully. Which makes my blood run hot.
After MONTHS of setup and waiting and preparing... Just having that taken away. While your body and house and life crave a child that should have come home safely.
It's hard. It makes it impossible to even get out of bed. I spent a month in my room windows blacked out not a single shower , I didn't eat for a week and half. I barely drink anything. The pain was to much for my brain to process. I didn't add this to my post but my daughters death was caused by the nurse she was told to have me sent out to children hospital per my chart she ignored it. she also was told to give me an iv with medication to stop my labor she refused, she then saw my mom had brought my pills in that stop my labor, and she took them from my mother. She never notified my doctor I was there. Then a doctor happened to be stopping by to check on his patient from the day before and my mom asked him for help. But by then it was to late my water broke. I endured a csection without any medication more then a numbing shot for the first few lays of skin. I was 15. The one thing I remember her saying as she refused to even monitor my contractions, " your a stupid little girl who doesn't even know what labor is." Those words and her face will always be with me even now 27 years later.
Oh the kick in the face is that when we went to sue them it was crazy cause my medical file just happened to have gone missing.
@@22222DedeB I will pray 🙏for you 🙏❤and your family. SAD more BS TO GO THROUGH...😮
What an evil woman... What she wrote on her notebook was correct. It's so disgusting. Imagine killing defenceless babies. I have no words.
What's so chilling about that to me, it shows how much she knew what she was doing and how wrong it was. But did it over the smallest thing.
@@XxDegrassigurlxXsounds like bad metal illness and dissociation. I have dissociation and it legit feels similar.
@@ihanakaunotar2741 yeah I think shes schizophrenic
@@ihanakaunotar2741 there's 100% smth wrong with her mentally but it's really hard to tell what exactly. she gives a little of a narcissist to me with her being so good and perfect in the public's eye and trying to be always the best at her work and not getting social clues and being socially akward and weird in some moments but i think there's a big chance she just may be a cold blooded psychopath. no remorse, no regrets, a very calculated and precise behavior, she kinda was there for everyone to see but no one could do anything cause she manipulated reality good enough to be not percieved as a killer. everyone felt smth off but couldn't really prove it. really reminded me of Hannibal Lecter shit.
and abt dissociations... i don't really think it's it, it's definetely smth rooted very deep down. i have some dissociative episodes from time to time and to me it's just feels like.. not existing basically?.. yeah, i think it's normal that u can have violent tendencies, i really want to hurt myself to make myself feel something or to feel alive or to break free from this weird condition but i think dissociations are impulisive and not calculated or predicted at all and they can't affect your long-term actions... it's nothing like calculated and careful behavior that Lucy displayed. there's very smth profoundly wrong with her and i'm not the one diagnosing ofc but yeah, i think it may be psychopathy in it's best.
@@ihanakaunotar2741hope you get better ❤
So sick. I work in the vet field and dealing with death is HORRIBLE. Trying to comfort the owners is HORRIBLE. The fact she would force these situations to happen is actually twisted. She caused so much unneeded trauma to all the parents and her coworkers, when she didn't even work in NICU half the time. Murdering babies is a whole other sort of evil that's so hard to even imagine. I hope she stays in prison forever.
certainly is horrible working in the vet field. I knew a vet and he gave up his job as he couldnt deal with putting animals down such a lot. He ended up doing chairty fundraising
She sounds like she was a psychopath. People like that sometimes are fascinated by other people’s emotions because they can’t feel them themselves. And losing a child is perhaps the most emotional situation a person can go through. I think she observed it once or twice and got some sort of high from being that close to such intense emotions. So like a drug addict she kept needing more and more. And then she noticed it got her attention from people like “Dr. Crush” etc. and it gave her added motivation. My mother is a real narcissist and admitted once she can’t feel empathy. She doesn’t even comprehend the definition. So she finds it fascinating in other people because she just can’t wrap her head around it. And as a result she manipulates and takes advantage of empathetic people. It’s weird.
That makes a lot of sense when you connect narcissism to a lot of people who murder 🤔 they always fake cry or say I seen mother people crying or writing a nice post of missing the murdered person like normal
People don’t go off what others are doing in that sad moment but we see that a lot in cases with people who don’t care that they killed someone, it’s like no big deal to them it’s very scary and wonder how that feels not be able to feel empathy
it’s COMPASSION you’re looking for, NOT empathy. A lot of people out there struggle to show empathy, like for example, myself as an autistic person. But I wouldn’t ever dream of caring so little about other people and their feelings and lives. I just have trouble expressing understanding for their feelings sometimes. Please do not demonize people with mental disorders. (Psychopath and Narcissist are also medical adjacent terms for sick people who are statistically much more likely to be victims of violent crimes than perpetrate them.) People can be horrible without being sick, and people can be sick without being horrible.
@@paranormeow sorry. My bias might be leaking out. I was raised by a mother with severe NPD. She was physically emotionally and psychologically abusive and I have trouble finding compassion for people like that due to my own experiences.
@@StayAtHomeMeme that makes sense. I’m sorry she treated you badly. I guess I just wanted to say that not everyone is like that. I hope you’re able to heal
@@paranormeow thank you. I know not everyone is like that. It’s something I’m working on. I treat everyone fairly unless they give me a reason not to.
She isn't feeding off of the pain from the grieving parents... she is feeding off the glory she gets from being the one to "help" or how well and hard she is working by others and the reaction she got by bringing a blanket and stress toy to the trial.
She 100% has munchausen syndrome by proxy. Another nurse did this EXACT same thing look up the 1991 case of Beverly Allitt.
Exact Same story it's creepy.
One of the main causes of her crimes is to gain sympathy from her crush and others, gave her the attention she wanted she also got off on the parents grief because it gave her a bigger chance to be seen as a victim as well!
Munchausen, no way. doesn't fit the symptoms. she's just a mentally unstable sadist.
Honestly? I think you're right AND I think everyone else is right about her doing it for her crushes attention as well. I think all of it kind of added to it and made her do it again, and again, and again. It's so chilling.
Well that would hold up in other circumstances but what kind of glory does she get when she looks up the parents on the internet on the anniversary of the death of their children ? No one is thanking her for that or is even aware of it.
The only explanation is that she DOES get gratification from seeing their grief and the impact of her actions on others
@@ahlemlora1452exactly
I think there's a lot of reasons why
Not just one
Yes the sympathy and longing for admiration
But she derived satisfaction from this too
That's why she kept trophies
It wasn't just a means to an end
I hope there is some prison justice in this case, she's a sadistic, obsessive killer. I think even among serial killers she's probably seen as scum for attacking defenseless babies.
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yes, many serial killers love the "challenge" of a victim that can fight back and show real fear. but Lucy here is the absolute highest order of sadist - one that gets off on targeting the most vulnerable and helpless in our society. babies can't fight back, and they don't even know what's happening. your average serial killer wouldn't even bother with a baby. there would be no satisfaction to the kill. but not for Lucy. she clearly loved harming these babies. she is the most dangerous kind of predator there is.
@@moonsigil not just babies, but the weakest most fragile babies
She got life without parole
trust me when I say, serial killers dgaf. They are psychos with no feelings. They will act like they care to get you off their back but deep down, they applaud this lady or have 0 feelings for her.
When I was born I had a problem when I inhaled my own spit, almost suffocating. The nurse that took care of me later worked as a nurse overlooking post-op patients. I was coming down from anesthesia and she was there. She looked so lovingly at me after seeing my name. It weirded me out a bit so I made a joke like: "Am I like your daughter you had to give up? Or did I accidentally save your life somehow?" still no filter after the surgery. She told me: "When you were born, you almost died by inhaling your saliva. I was the one who looked after you. I'm so glad to see you 14 years later, healthy and hopefully happy." It was one of the core memories that have been with me for years. She died a year ago, she became my nurse for things like drawing blood and I was in contact with her son (we met at highschool), when he texted me about the funeral and reason she died I was so sad, she died of kidney failure (she had only one after donating one to her sister or cousin or someone in her family), I went, people asked how I knew her and I loved sharing the story of how she took care of me like her own child. To think that if I went to someone else than to this wonderful woman I could have been dead, if the other person was a sick psychopath.
Just wanted to share something positive about an amazing nurse when we're listening about that terrible human being.
The hospital admin should be thoroughly investigated as well. They bent over backwards to ignore evidence and subvert corrective actions.
After the deaths stopped in the time that Lucy went to Ibiza, they should have made up a lie that they needed to put Lucy on leave for a month to see if there were no incidences. Two absences resulting in 0 incidences followed by more incidences upon her return should have been enough data to investigate the matter. They handled this so badly. I really hope the parents sue the hospital trust for being so incompetent. The doctors had enough reasonable evidence to suspect Lucy. The odds of a defamation lawsuit being successful was low. So many kids could have been saved if they’d done their jobs.
Lies from prosecutors withholding a lot of evidence and UK MSM have been complicit. For example, 17 babies died not 7.
Nurse Lucy Letby was on duty for less than 50% of those deaths! A lot of information was missing including what her diary said. Please research more? czcams.com/video/rW1YdrgCeDM/video.html
Your husband made a really good point by saying she was writing letters and giving little token of grief to the parents just so she can see them being crushed again. Just like a « typical » serial killer that comes back to the crime scene cause they get off on the situation they created in the first place.
I truly think it’s quite possible she targeted twins and triplets specifically because she KNEW that their parents couldn’t just go home and grieve in private…
You instantly killed me... NICU babies.. infants who are fighting just to survive.. I had twins (born 27 weeks ) in the NICU for 160 days and it's hard enough for us as parents to watch our littles struggle so much. I can't explain how a mirco diaper feels so small in my hand. Or what it's like to hear your children's monitors go off because they are destating over and over. All of the wires covering their tiny bodies. This person is an absolute monster. I'm sick to my stomach. I'm not saying all nurses are bad but you HAVE to keep your eye out. I remember when my smallest twin was coming home I got the okay over the phone; I go to the hospital and this nurse (same one who told me to come in) was now trying to convince me that my son was worse than what the doctors were saying and SHE thinks he should be there longer. I lost my shit. This is not what 5 different doctors had told me. I spoke with people non stop for HOURS before I was allowed to leave with my son. I called her on it and told her I'm not leaving without him and I did. But why was she trying to convince me otherwise? He's almost 1 now and growing like a weed.
You need to file a report
@@goddammitalana This was months ago. But I agree. There were multiple questionable nurses there. I did remove a nurse from my care team because she wasnt changing my sons mask. He contracted MRSA because of the condensation in his breathing mask. The baby already had a lung disease and I get people are busy but idk that was just important NOT to miss.
I like that she gave the babies aliases after the letters they were assigned, A(ndy) B(ella) C(harlie) D(iana) E(lliott) F(reddy) G(race) etc... It humanized them more than just "Baby A"
honestly even with the naming, i can't bring myself to care about the babies. only their parents. it's not a lot of grief response in me when someone dies who hasn't even lived to begin with, but the way the parents were heartbroken and traumatized... i can't even imagine their pain, preparing for a baby for months, and then the day that should be the happiest in their life, turns into the most dreadful nightmare possible....
@@user-oz8eu4eb9qok 😭😭
@@user-oz8eu4eb9qI understand what you mean. And neither the parents or the baby is at fault or did anything wrong in this case. But those poor babies, what did they die for? What sins did they commit to have their life ended after living for such a short time?
@@zvezdoblyat karma is dead lol, truth of life
@@user-oz8eu4eb9q what are you laughing at? There's nothing funny here
It makes me sad and embarrassed that this is the second serial killer nurse (as well as a further serial killer GP) in England in the last 20 years. Our NHS is such a great institution but there are still these “bad apples” in the barrel.
We need to change our culture of being a cult of the NHS we should be able to criticise healthcare workers my dad and mum have been affected by negligence yes they’ve got compensation, but money doesn’t bring your eye site and kidneys back we need to end “ we can’t criticise the NHS”
It's likely many more. These are just the two who were actually caught.
She is the second in NICU but there are others in adults NHS
I think its an international phenomen. In Germany a nurse, Niels Högel, killed 330+ patients, probably more. I think there are A TON of unknown cases everywhere
the saying isnt "its just a few bad apples" the saying is "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" idk why ppl use the saying like that, its supposed to imply that the whole organization is corrupt...
The fact is my sister was on the childrens ward when everything happened and she was so confused about it its so sickening to see how far people will go and take things for something 🤮
“I’ve worked 10 months… where is my child?…” is heartbreaking
It’s just terrible to think that these moms carry and struggle with a baby in their stomach for more than half a year to give birth to a healthy baby just for an evil person to kill their baby. That’s truly messed up. R.I.P to all the babies 🕊
Uterus.
not the stomach..
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@@KateCarewbabies definitely don’t come from the uterus. How do you think they get their food? Bc they’re in the stomach, not the uterus. Duh
The security blanket and stuffed animal she was allowed to bring to the court was her final weapon against the victims families in order to suck the grief out of the situation. She is truly sick! The final slap in the face for the families 😢
also not even showing
up for her sentencing
my mom lost a baby around 30 years ago, she still cries whenever he is mentioned, this women is a fucking monster
This is so horrid... I cant imagine the parent's grief and despair, hope they recover but the trauma will stay there... I cant imagine the poor babies that tried to fight for their fragile lives, it is truly horrendous to even think about committing this crime
My child is alive due to NICU and CVICU nurses- I cannot imagine how sick this woman is. She is pathetic and deserves to rot in hell for what she has done.
My niece was also premature & weak. She was born during the pandemic & both parents weren't allowed to be at the babies side at the same time. Even that was already traumatic.
On the topic of "most evil nurse": The worst serial killer in peacetime Germany, Niels Högel, was a nurse. He was convicted for 85 murders, but suspected of killing up to 330+ patients.
I'm in med school and I often think about how vulnerable patients are. They need to trust us with their lives and it's absolutely despicable that someone would use that trust against them.
That is why I am afraid of going to the hospital and I have been in trauma and In a coma and when I woke up I was so nervous 2018 maybe it is just all the true crime but just makes me wonder what are they giving me I'm always asking so many questions they probably got excited when I finally got to go home
There's one in the USA. Jolly Mary is her name I believe
exactly. i was in hospital recently and I don't trust doctors and nurses anymore. they have to earn our trust.
It was BECAUSE she was most qualified, she could kill those poor baby without leaving any evidence
You narrate these cases so well….no matter how horrendous the crime, you’re relaying it is just perfect
i was a premature baby. I’m so thankful the nurses at my hospital didn’t take advantage of me. I feel so sick hearing about what happened to these poor babies
Thankful i didnt die as a baby and my brother and sisters
Same
My boyfriend was a premature baby too. It’s really horrific how someone could do this to the baby and the parents
I just hope the babies didn’t feel any much pain :( I hope the parents are able to handle their grief and anger…
Same. God, I didn’t even think about that until you wrote it. Horrible. Bless good doctors and nurses.
Same with both being a premmy baby and being thankful for own doctors and nurses. And the priest who apparently visited incubator
She has martyr syndrome, "oh look how hard I work how much I've given up , the pain I endure yet I go on" and likes to play damsel in distress " everyone is so mean and i am so innocent and naive please protect me" She has no feelings one way or the other about the babies they were just tools she used to get her needs met.. She is a sociopath. There is no one in her life that doesn't benefit her.
Yes absolutely !
Also, it's not just that she wants to put the facade of her suffering to get people's attention, I feel as tho she likes making her own self feel like shit when she commits these acts. It's like this type of masochistic tendency of doing something that makes her hate herself but her, in some way, liking that feeling ?
So as Stephanie said, she's a pain vampire but to me she seems to feed off of not only others's pain but also her own in a way ?
Truly, I feel like psychologists should study her case because this might be something science isn't aware of yet
To describe this as a martyr complex is insufficient she’s just histrionic
Yep my dad had martyr syndrome and victim complex BAD and this made me think of that.
Lies from prosecutors withholding a lot of evidence and UK MSM have been complicit. For example, 17 babies died not 7.
Nurse Lucy Letby was on duty for less than 50% of those deaths! A lot of information was missing including what her diary said. Please research more? czcams.com/video/rW1YdrgCeDM/video.html
The fact that the hospital suspicion to the nurse was proven yet didn't take any actions about it just to avoid being lawsuit is sooooo horrendous 😭😭😭
I live in the uk and this case just terrified the country. It also highlighted a huge culture issue within the NHS where misconduct rarely gets reported.
The interesting thing about this case is that, is that it set a new requirement that perpetrators will have to be present hearing the testimony of their victims during their sentencing or face potentially having 2 years added to their sentence.
I’m a nurse and I’m absolutely sickened that someone had done something horrifying as this.
For real. To their parents' babies
Makes me worried when I have children on my own. You just never know !
im in college to become a nurse im currently 28 weeks pregnant this is so scary.
She is like a monster hiding in the shadows.
Even if one of the elderly hospice patients passes away... I feel a sense of sadness and secret tears, even though it was expected. Let alone someone losing a baby. I could never work NICU. If I ever did and a baby passed away, I would be in denial for months.
this is so terrifying. someone that's meant to save lives taking them instead for a MAN????
fr she literally could've just asked him out to coffee like a normal person
@@Sputterbugzthey were already going out for coffee.
I think there are much more in it than just him. The fact how she haunted all these families shows how deeply perverted and sick she is in her mind
he was married@@Sputterbugz
Hey now, don't blame him, he didn't do anything to make her kill the children
17 babys didnt go home...feel bad for parents... Edit:thanks for likes for a comment about that sadistic docter lucy letby
59:56 Hii RN here, I just wanted to add to your discussion about air bubbles. Small amounts of air can be dissipated in the blood, but it take a fair amount of air to cause an air embolism. So it would have to be very purposeful, not just a tiny accidental bubble that didn’t come out.
My theory: She feeds off of the attention of others and loves being in the center of things. She was in the NICU herself as a baby, but survived. I think looking at these grieving parents she is imagining what would have happened if she hadn’t.
Prosecutors believe she did it all because it increased the attention Dr Crush gave her. He comforted her. Lucy had nothing in her life beyond being a nurse. Nothing wrong with that but taking others happiness away may have also been a motivation.
It could have been for all the above reasons plus many more
Why did anyone want the attention of others?
@@elon6784 attention = social connection, it’s a basic human need
@@elon6784Like the person above me said, it's a basic human need, but some have disorders which make them feel like they need to be the center of attention as well.
I worked for hospice and we had a suspicion of a nurse that was called an Angel of death. It was hard to prove because they were hospice patients so how can you prove that. But a lot of staff member suspected her. One of my coworkers even found a sticky note that fell out of her pocket with some suspicious writing. She retired and that’s was that. Smh this world is full of a lot of evil people “who pretend to be good” in all fields 😢
I was thinking about hospice nursing exactly when I heard of such angels for the first time in this video. Most people wouldn't understand unless they've gone through it, so your comment peeked my interest.
Where is this?
What did the sticky note say?
Especially in public service.
This case feels like an unfinished puzzle. Like I know what the picture is, the puzzle is falling together perfectly, but one of the most important pieces is just missing.
It’s like cleaning out your couch (like the spaces in between the cushions) and thinking you got every item out.. but there’s even more items inside, if that makes any sense
Lucy’s side if the story, I need an explanation! WHAT WAS YOUR GOAL HERE LUCY?!?!
I watch a lot of true crime stuff /even the darkest ones/, so I didn't think anything could shake me up.. but when you talked about how tiny those babies were, I was actually tearing up. Such vulnerable, innocent lifes. This is truly a heartbreaking story.
"we have a nursery at home.." "FOR MY NEICE" i love rotten mango for telling such an awful story but also bringing us back to ourselves throughout
Lol not him tryna throw Steph under the bus 😂 ‘FOR MY NIECE’ aka Steph is best auntie
If you look closely, she is pregnant, and I'm guessing she's secretive about it, so she said "for my niece" to throw everybody off. I keep peeping her touching and rubbing her belly and you can definitely tell she has a bump even without her belly being in the frame.
@@michalashirley6458no I don’t think she is if you watch her main channel she doesn’t appear pregnant at all
@@michalashirley6458I agree. I came to comment this.
@@LVLY-dh3pk it could be unseen old videos she's posting lol a lot of CZcamsrs do that
I think infertility or a miscarriage is her main motive. "I killed them on purpose because I'm not good enough for them." This makes a lot of sense if you think of yet to be conceived babies as little souls that float around picking who they want their parents to be. Shes mad at the babies because they didn't pick her to be their mom.
THIS.
ur 100 percent right id say
If this is true, she's also most likely spiteful towards the parents who DO "get chosen" which would explain why she got a kick out of their grief.
Idc what anyone says this is 100% what it has to be. Good judgement babe. So disgusting to wanna cause anyone let alone a innocent premie baby physical pain. My heart hurts thinking of all parties involved.
My exact thoughts 💭
That could be a motive, for sure, if that’s your belief system.
I’m a first time mom, my boy is almost 20 months old, my mom is a doctor who also experienced the long-time-heartbreak of losing a patient because of someone else’s fault. I cried even from baby Andy’s story, this is so devastating and frustrating at the same time it’s crazy. No punishment could ever pay for the moms’ broken soul after losing their babies.
So I’ve got a theory that maybe Lucy did this because whatever mental health problem she obviously has, it made her resent her own existence to the point where it made her resent both her parents and the nurses for saving her as a baby.
Stephanie’s husband raised an interesting point about the babies being collateral; I don’t think Lucy was going after the children but was maybe targeting the parents because she believed that because she herself shouldn’t have been saved, that she wanted to understand the grief that her parents would have gone through if she hadn’t survived. I mean, the note found in her house said that she didn’t deserve to be alive and that she was a burden to her parents.
Reducing it to “she was evil” is really overly simplistic, it lacks any kind of critical thinking, it doesn’t really offer any kind of closure, and it DEFINITELY doesn’t seek to inform people to recognise the myriad of reasons as to why people can do these grotesque things. If people had written Beverly Allitt off in the early 90s as being evil when she killed 4 children in the children’s ward she worked at, then I don’t think the British public would be aware of phenomena like the Angel of Death or conditions like Munchausen by Proxy.
It’s horrible how someone so trusted, like a nurse would do this. My heart goes out to all the babies lost 🕊️🕊️🕊️
54:00 I experienced this kind of creepy behaviour before, not from a nurse, but a vet. It was a new vet that had opened in my area (old vet was a bit of a drive away) and my elderly cat (14 yo) was sickly. Brought him in, and she did tests and told me he had kidney failure (FKD), and in the *same breath* she asked me, "So do you wanna put him down?" My aunt and I just looked at her like she was fucking insane. I was so traumatised I went outside to call my family and was crying on the phone. The vet and vet tech came out of the clinic cos they saw some kind of wild monkey in the woods behind the clinic and she started taking photos with her phone while I was literally standing there crying. I seriously think there are some real psychopaths working in the medical field....
Wow that’s super weird. Did you ask them to delete the photos?
@@zamanthamachado6604She was taking photos of the wild monkey outside, I believe.
I'm sorry that happened to you. It's honestly very strange with people who work with animals for a long time (not all ofc). There was this vet I met when I called animal services to help a dying cat she was like he has x diagnosis (forgot right now) and he's old so you can take him to another vet or we can put him down. I literally sobbed like hours and so hard because I didn't have money to help the cat and it was my first time being responsible for the decision of an animal's death. It was the worst but I was bawling my eyes out and she was completely calm and even smiled because a lot of cat hair went flying everywhere when I picked up the cat to give it some love in his final moments, I don't know if it was me who smiled first nervously because she was just making me uncomfortable being so calm and I'm a mess and looking at me like I'm crazy for crying that much over a stray cat that I just met so maybe she just smiled back can't remember but even then like it was all honestly so unsettling to have her be so calm in those moments and not only her but the vet tech, and also the receptionists although some of them were more empathetic specially the one who called me to allow me to give me the chance to see the cat before it was put down, which just made everything weird when I got there because experiencing that kind of empathy over the phone and then seeing most of the team be so calm in person was shocking. Like the guy who had me sign the paper where I was leaving the cat in their hands (pretty much his death sentence I will never feel right about having done that but didn't seem to have a choice at the time) he was just so chill and like just another day at work I think maybe even joking with coworkers. But I guess it could just be the nature of the work they do probably tons of animals euthanized on the daily have made them lose sensitivity. However in your case taking pictures of some amusing thing in front of you while you are crying and all that is just extra rude.
I didn't have quite the same experience, but my rabbit got a growth on her head and we took her to our usual clinic, but we saw a new vet (young + new to the clinic). She kept pressing on the growth, despite it being very obviously painful for our bun (she kept flinching). Not just while she was checking out the lump (understandable and necessary), but also after she'd taken a sample and was just chatting to us about our options. Just. Kept. Pressing. Like she was fidgeting but instead of a stress ball, it was my baby's head.
She also refused to send the sample off for testing. (We went to another vet who did send it off, it was cancer and we had to put her down (he was lovely about it)). But I remember my mum in the car on the way home saying she was about to yell at Pressy Vet to stop touching our bun, it was so obvious she was hurting her
I would try sooo hard not to say on call in front of them “yeah this vet is fucking psycho”
i only found you the other day but oh my gosh you are the best story teller. i’ve subscribed and i am binging. you’ve got this down to a t
I found your channel this morning and I enjoy listening to the stories while doing art on my tablet. This 1 caught my attention. I can truly hear the empathy in your voice and I wanted to say thank you for telling this story and saying the babies names. I lost my baby and didn't get to name her. Later we chose Ally, our son chose it. The nurses were so cold about it and said things that they certainly could have shown a little compassion and empathy. I get they are used to it, but I'm not. I'm still traumatized 2yrs later.
This hurts me so much as a future doctor. We work our asses off so someone doesn’t need to say goodbye to their sibling, parent or child too soon. This is not what we do in hospitals
Thank you for what you do🙌
@@Kayla-ok2rzthey dont do anything its just a student
@@moonlightbae333I think the people becoming our future doctors are doing something. Medical school is incredibly hard and i thinks that’s enough. Learning to save lives just like our current doctors did
very scary though and the public must be able to question everything to ask doctors what's happening to monitor their own and their children's care if there's nothing to hide THEN WE NEED NO SECRECY
Most doctors are incompetent and care more about their social status than their actual patients. It’s very hard to find a great Dr. Don’t be like the 95% of awful doctors.
As a nurse, this is so horrifying. To know that you can potentially be working with someone that is harming our patients, someone you work along with for 12 hours 3 or 4 days a week and trust. Like I can’t imagine the trauma her coworkers are going through and the amount of therapy.
seriously. im a paramedic and i can't fathom how i or my colleagues would feel if we found out one of our own was doing something like this. when we are on shift, we are family. hell, i see them and spend more time with them than many of my own family members. this would feel like such a huge betrayal. every one of her colleagues must have terrible survivor's guilt.
I'm a nurse as well, this is scary af. For so many reasons. This monster has this look in her eyes that is just chilling and makes my skin crawl. She seems like that one nurse that just gives me a gut feeling that something was off yet there is not enough evidence to say anything. Makes you wanna chart even more due to this stuff and something is gonna happen that is properly gonna make things more difficult and hard on those who are doing the right things. Makes me want to second guess everything and everyone
when I worked in hospitality, 3 staff were thieves. I had no idea until police involved. It is really horrible working with criminal colleagues and you had no idea
I am a NICU nurse in the USA (and I’m also a mother of a baby that was in the NICU & I have NO WORDS 😶 SICKENING. She is insane.
Love your style! The way you r telling the stories feels like you deeply know the situation and even been there as a witness.
It sounds like Lucy has intense sociopathy and narcissism. My theory is that she wasn't necessarily attracted to the grief but rather she was addicted to feeling important. The way she would get into her colleagues business constantly, even taking more shifts than anyone else, and of course to taking the lives of babies...even sending a letter to the grieving parents. It all sounds like Lucy was addicted to feeling important...the fact that she chose to get that feeling by murdering babies can only be described as sociopathy or psychopathy.
exactly, and she maniplated her colleagues
The term "grief vampire" sends shivers down my spine.
My brain cannot process this whole story. She's a real life dementor.
How can all this be the right thing to do in any human's mind?
Dementor is the perfect term...
Your brain is a very powerful force of machine.. anything can happen
Yeah, I agree I'm writing a mini essay on this case and I used that term to describe her. It was so unsettling to write when referring to a nurse of all people. It goes to show not everyone is what they seem, ya know?
This was really hard to listen to. As a person who is studying to work in the medial field, this was brutal. I can't imagine the pain and suffering all the families felt. Respects to the doctors who took a stand against everyone. May those who were lost rest in peace 🙏
keep an eye out for your colleagues. I worked in hospitality industry 3 staff including manager were thieves. One was the chef and he was arrested in front of me at work. all of them I would not have thought would do it. they showed one side to me...only. some people hae a dark side.
My sister is a midwife and works at a hospital with a NICU. Tragedies do happen there, but these cases are always very upsetting to her. It's heartbreaking every single time, she said she never seen anyone getting used to it. So this must have been unimaginable not just for the families (obviously), but also for the other nurses, doctors and everyone else working at the hospital. If other people's grief was the killer's motivation, this might also was a part of it.
A nurse killed my mother and never faced justice. She was a vulnerable patient, unable to easily talk and physically dependent on others for care. The nurse's callousness killed my mom. I don't forget and haven't been able to forgive. I hope these parents are able to heal.
I hope you heal and let go.
My heart goes out to you.
They say that losing your child is the worst thing but losing your mother hurts just as much. I can’t imagine so I can’t say I empathize but I do sympathize. I hope you grow and smile and love.
Is there anything you can do?
A lot of nurses I (and my family) have seen are not sympathetic to patients.
I used to think forgiveness meant to give some sort of acknowledge to the perpetrator that they no longer have to suffer guilt of my emotional damage. I learned recently it just meants to understand accept and let go of the pain and emotional hold they have on you. It has nothing to do with them. The best way I have found to do that is to try to figure out why someone is the way they are. I grew up with a murderer and he abused me for 10+ years. I had to think about it as a different person with a different perspective, like he was a patient in a mental ward. He was molested, abused and did drugs and he turned into a monster. That's when I said to myself I was just the unfortunate soul who became his daughter, he never got help and that's his fault. I have no responsibility to his actions and he is the only one who deserves to feel the pain. I'm 29 and just in the past couple of years I've learned to let go. I still get angry sometimes but I have power over my story and life, that's what I wish for you. I know nothing anyone can say could make you feel better but I truly wish you peace.
@@Mataylor17Perhaps...not listening to symptoms...which caused misdiagnosis and death.
I’ve been to the exact hospital that Lucy was unaliving babies in. I can’t even imagine the things that the nurses that worked with her are going through right now.
A lot of (justified) resentment from everyone who suspected her combined with severe trust issues between staff, probably.
But that happened in 2015.
@@Feeeoooyuy343 yea but she got locked up recently she got caught recently.
@@Luna_Melody_Moon o
Fr Chester is such a small city, my friend worked at the hospital until a year ago and we’d always be running into her co workers when we went out, it’s an everyone kinda knows everyone type of place.
Thank you for covering this one, girl!!!!
Oh this story was a hard one to hear. I really love listening to your podcasts. Your empathy is unmatched. You give these victims the light they need. I love you and your husband’s dynamic. He always says the right things and ask the right questions.
She is one of the most disgusting killers. I’m a retired critical care nurse who retired due to ill health. Working in critical care is an honour and people work for years to become a competent nurse and have the skills and maturity to work in critical care. I felt so blessed and proud to help the sickest of sickest patients to get better and go home, not ever that I would want them to die so that I felt special and important working on an emergency. And this is what all nurses would tell you that the satisfaction of watching the patients big or small go home safe and well makes all those hard days and tears worth it. So her convoluted thinking that killing tiny innocent precious babies made her special and feel good makes me hate this disgusting women so much ! I hope she rots in hell !
Thank you for your service
Her reaction. You summed it up perfectly. An innocent person doesn’t just walk along with the police like it’s just mildly inconvenient. If someone accused me of HURTING ONE BABY I would be absolutely incredulous and would not accept it at all. No.
As a new mom, this is a hard case to hear. Unbelievable. What a horror story😞 thanks for bringing this story to light. You can’t trust no one.
Emotional vampires are a thing my egg donor would antagonize me to get a rise out of me. She would sometimes stand outside my room and try to watch me sleep if I woke up and saw her she would get angry and scold me "WHY ARE YOU AWAKE?? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ASLEEP!!!"