30 Facts You Didn't Know About The Hobbit Trilogy
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- You know, lately I've been seeing a ton of videos pop up on my feed about how bad the Hobbit movies were, so I just had to go rewatch the trilogy. Honestly, even though some of the shortcomings are clearly visible, there's also a lot of really well done and interesting segments that definitely make the films enjoyable to me.
This is all to say I felt compelled to make a video highlighting the great parts of the trilogy, and also why it could've turned out much better had there not been a series of unfortunate events.
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in my opinion no one could've played young Bilbo like Martin Freeman did. He was perfect as Bilbo
What about Morgan Freeman ?
As crap as the hobbit was freeman is a great actor
@@lewisparry4992 the hobbit was great man, what are you talking about
He and Smaug were the two good things in these films.
I can’t stand him. He’s the same in every role he plays.
Freeman was 100% the only person I could see playing a young bilbo.
Gimli, at 62, was considered a bit too young by his elders to join the quest for Erebor.
Agreed.
And let's not forget the then-53-year-old Thorin's younger brother Frerin was slain at the age of 48 during The Battle of Azanulbizar, so that stayed with Thorin for the rest of his life and also may have led to his decision not to take on anybody younger than 70-75 years of age for The Quest for Erebor. He'd never be able to live with himself if Gimli got hurt or died on the journey.
“That’s my wee lad!!!”
Viggo Mortensen saying "You do know, don't you? Aragorn isn't in The Hobbit" is why he ended up being such a perfect casting for Aragorn in LOTR.
The man was born to be Aragorn. And he has proven it, time and time again.
viggo: you do know that... Orlando: paychecks too good, what day?
Ian Mckellen, I truly appreciate him and his character. Also thank The Why for covering a favorite topic of mine, as well as being as informative as you are in general.
hey i know it’s been 6 months but something super funny is his reasoning to not taking the dumbledore role and him saying he was the real wizard
I'm one of those weirdos who liked the Hobbit trilogy more than the original one. It's just less depressing & more of an adventure that I love to watch when I'm feeling down. The original is still great though.
Also my preferences 👍
Same
Yup, sure are weird...
@@killer2miller23lol
More than the book? Or more than the previous movies, Lord of the Rings? Just curious.
It's not that the Hobbit trilogy was bad, the original trilogy is just that legendary.
I get that. Reading the book(s) was truly amazing. Nevertheless, I love all the movies.
@@marciaturnbull8082 yeah, right? My personal favorite is the Silmarillion
Benedict is actually pretty mind blowing considering his roles!
I truly don’t understand the flak this film gets compared to LOTR. I get the deviations that all 6 movies take from the books but The Hobbit trilogy is a phenomenal set of work. I still get lost in it every time I watch it. Perhaps I’m just the minority in this though.
The #1 thing most people do not like is they took a book that could easily have been made into just 1 movie but greed prompted them to stretch it into 3. To pull this off they basically just added a bunch of stuff that was not in the books. Azog was mentioned one time and that was when Balg was introduced as our antagonist. It said he was spawn of Azog the Defiler, orc who beheaded Thror I think. The female elf and Fili's love story was 100% Hollywood's doing. The dwarfs never had a confrontation with Smaug. In fact they wanted Bilbo to "steal" all their treasure back. There was no Arkin Stone. All in all a good 80% of that trilogy is filler bullshit so they could maximize profits. Disrespectful to the source material for the sake of money leaves a bad taste in the mouth and kinda feels manipulative.
@@heatherearls9587the arkenstone was important in the book, bilbo also gave it to bard to try to stop the men of laketown and the elves from starting war with the dwarfs
@@heatherearls9587 the problem is that lotr fans have this belief that the lotr trilogy is the most perfect thing ever, and anything else to come out will never be like it, come on, hobbit is enjoyable and i agree, it shouldve been 2 movies only, but the lotr trilogy aint as perfect as they make it seem, while i also recognize their impact and their process,also people complain about the books being better, not only in hobbit but also lotr, so which is it aholes? Is it perfect or not? You cant say its the best trilogy in existence and then complain about random things, so they are entertaining, all 6 of them, thats it, also being so long , theyre not for everyone
@@ericmagana3215 You are right in that the LotR trilogy isn't perfect. They deviated from the books and took creative liberties back then too. But, over all, the story of the films actually align with the books fairly well. There are pretty much only minor things that aren't included and obviously there are more depth in the books. If I'm being perfectly honest though, the films actually do some parts better than the books, like the battle of Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith, and I also think that the scene where Gandalf cures Théoden is underwhelming in the book in comparison to the film. The visual side of things and the sound/music in the LotR films really brings the world to life and all in all, they are a wonderful adaptation of the trilogy.
The Hobbit films are definitely not bad in their own right, but they definitely feel more "fake" than the LotR films, and that is mostly due to the way it looks (looks too crisp, probably because of the excessive use of green screen) and classic Hollywood tropes, like the romance between Kílí and Tauriel, who by the way is an entirely made up character for the film. They should have absolutely made a maximum of two films for their adaptation of the Hobbit and stayed more true to the source material.
You're not alone!
Martin Freeman was the PERFECT HOBBIT
I am astounded you didn't mention Sylvester McCoy as Radagast the Brown. McCoy's most famous role, of course, was the Seventh Doctor in Doctor Who.
Radagast was butchered unfortunately. Made him out to be a half mad fool with bird shit running down his head and riding a sled pulled by bloody rabbits. Became a cheap form of comic relief with a dickie staff, sadly. No knock on the actor, did what he was told but the writing of him was hopeless. Would have loved to see him done as the wise old reclusive wizard that would garner respect.
@@bradsaint9779another cry baby lol its so fk funny to read
Disgusting character. FF thru his scenes
They involved 50 000 CPU cores for Smaug??! I know that most of the viewers here don't understand the depth of this.... but this is... insane! Incredible. Your home CPU contains at most 2-8 cores btw. and each core is expensive as hell and consumes a lot of electrical power... WOW! For people outside of IT, this is "similar" to using 50 000 physical computers just to render one image! Imagine that...
And they employed 170 Terrabytes of RAM.... what.... WHAT? That's approximately 170 000 Gigabytes of RAM. At home you have around 4-16 gigabytes (32 if you're real lucky!). 170 000! ...
I'm so glad we got Jackson's version.
Are you mad?
Amanda's going to cry lol
It is just a shame they had to inflate it to a trilogy.
Amazing work, makes me loves the Hobbit films even more. Thanks for your work and research on this!
My favorite scenes in the Hobbit films are the Sauron ones. Absolutely terrifying and amazing. The music too is some of my absolute favorite.
the processing power on smaug was insane.🔥🔥🔥
I still can't belive theres a dwarf with an axe stuck in his skull and I didn't notice till now OMG
Azog killed Thorins grandfather in front of him in the movie. Thorin believes his father lives still as he says to Gandalf in the prelude to the Hobbit when they meet at the Prancing Pony
You channel is incredible. And very underrated in my option. I would love to see a video about any Sergio Leone film. I’ve been very into his work lately and he’s such a decisive character himself.
Just a little side note: If you haven’t seen Mortal Engines, it’s an incredible film and very underrated as well. Though not directed by Peter Jackson (helped produce and co-wrote screenplay,) you can definitely tell it has a lot of his touches.
Thanks for the video. This is my favourite fictional world, and I love learning more about it.
I Love The Hobbit movies, book and cartoon. I would love in addition to see a Del Toro remake/ take.
Sir Ian knew it didn’t feel right and it was definitely the most impactful difference between the trilogies. The magic of LOTR was the perfect melding of WETA’s traditional effects and revolutionary, brand new VFX. The full CG characters were probably technically better than Gollum originally was, but they definitely did not feel that way. Hearing about him breaking down on set was heartbreaking tbh.
I only wish I could have seen these in theaters
If you've read The Hobbit don't bother. The trilogy has nothing to do with Tolkiens work. It's a complete rewrite and therefore an utter travesty
@@dog-thebackwardgod👶😭
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Poor dog is still crying 😢
The movie theatre right next to me showed the three movies a few months ago and i watched them there for the first time, it was sooo amazing and epic!!
Pretty wholesome moment that they did a Gandalf appreceation day, but i can imagine it sucks if you have to act with 13 pictures all day
I would appreciate you learning how to spell "appreciation".
@@DavidRay39 Not everyone is a native English speaker. Next time i'll try not to make the mistake of spelling one letter wrong. But i'm sure people love having you at parties!
I loved the Hobbit, not as much as TLOTR but it was great to go back to middle earth
I liked all of them and they are far far better than the garbage Amazon has created . They are just not as good as LOTR but I mean what really can compare to those movies ?
I liked these because I first read the stories while back in 9th grade English class both the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
It remains a great trilogy. Peter Jackson and the crew really did a wonderfull job.
Agreed! I love these movies
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@@amandajohnston6915 Just an opinion bro, you don't have to agree.
7:11 - PJ also made a cameo as the dwarf who finds the Arkenstone
Broke my heart when you said it was Ori next to Balin in Moria.👑💍👑
Evangeline Lilly was right. No elf would ever fall for a dwarf, and it would be (in anything) even less likely for a dwarf to fall for an elf.
There always have to be special cases, otherwise it's boring. In my opinion, Kili and Tauriel had so much chemistry and fit together very well.
Shooting 2 films seems like the way it should gone.
For me, LOTR, the threats were always realistic and made victory and survival much less likely. Then you have Hobbit scenes like being ground between mountains, sliding down gorges on rickety wooden structures and being cooked over a fire but no one is even hurt.
Pov: fili kili and thorin
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yeah you are right- but I love the movies still
Cool vid! Used to play casually in college. Fun stuff!
this was a fun watch, and a lot of it was news to me. thanks.
I don't understand why everyone doesn't like the movies so much, yes, Lord of the Rings is maybe more epic and "better" in itself, but I love the Hobbit movies more than anything and I just feel at home when I see them.
Just knowing that Ian McKellen cried on set making the Hobbit and had a full emotional breakdown as he was acting alone in a green screen speaks volumes of how messed up the films were.
The way the Battle of 5 Armies was presented, it was as though they were showcasing all the different units and weapons for a video game.
I was really really hoping there was going to be a new RTS game.
9 different factions, all with different units, strategies and tactics...
Such potential. The other LOTR RTS games were some of my favorites.
Always liked to think he wanted martin short because of his resemblance to Ian Holm but settled on a different martin
i think the hobbit gets a lot of hate but as very entertaining films they dont deserve as much hate as they get
They deserve every bit of it. So much is in it that is NOT Tolkien.
You've never read the book! That's completely obvious. Either that or you don't care at all about Tolkiens works. Idk what book he read before making that trilogy, but it sure in the hell wasn't The Hobbit.
@@dog-thebackwardgod I think PJ missed the mark with The Hobbit. It is not a history of the heroism of the dwarves. It is the personal growth story of a small Hobbit, and how he changes the course of History. The way PJ has the story unfold, the Hobbit isn't even necessary! He is just a superfluous character - no more need than Bifur. When in the entire 3 movies was it even hinted that Bilbo was the real leader of the quest and that the Dwarves would have been lost without him?
@dandiehm8414 yes! You get it. Plus all the unnecessary Smaug battles that weren't in the book. The thing that stuck in my craw was the handsome dwarf. He took the line about Thorin being handsome for a dwarf and went completely overboard. Then, just to add insult to injury he writes in an affair between a dwarf and an elf? That's in no way Tolkien. In fact Iluvitar said there would ever be strife between the two races. As far as I'm concerned PJ got full of himself and thought he could improve on Tolkien. No one is better than Tolkien
@@dog-thebackwardgod but many things are left out of the lord of the rings movies to books. yet no one is hating on that are they?
i seen people complain that the hobbit is not long enough to make 3 movies.
then at same time complain that the lord of the rings books got more than 3 movies worth of time.
so no matter what they did there be hate.
is the hobbit perfect? no ofc not. but is it bad? no.
many people hate the story got changed of azog but saruman was also killed off and skip a whole story. but not many hate on that instead they accept it because there are many endings.
point is both are not fully true to the books.
so did you read the books?
The title should read, "30 mispronunciations you won't hear about". Gads, man, this was rough.
13:03 wasn’t there a scene in the Battle of 5 Armies where he like headbutts an orc and the axe comes out? I might be imagining that lol
Deleted scene, youd see it in an extended version
Legolas literally called his future best friend a goblin-mutant.
HAHAHAHA that thought...
You forgot that Bards daughters, Sigrid and Tilda was played by James Nesbits (Bofur) daughters.
Well done documentary!
the only reason they couldn't film it the same way they did in LOTR with primarily forced perspective, is because they decided to go with the 3D gimmick.
They could have done an excellent job , staying very true to the book, in a single two hour movie. I did mostly enjoy them though, I liked how they went into the surrounding details of the White Council, and ousting the Necromancer from Dol Guldur, while introducing Galadriel and Radagast. I would have liked to see a young Estel running around Rivendell. But I really hated how they turned the escape from Thranduil's prison from a stealthy retreat to a stupid action chase scene.
Have you ever seen the hobbit m4 book edit? I think it's still free if you google it. I enjoyed it but I'm still salty that the movies don't have the same feel as the book
I do think it was unnecessary to add Azog. In the book you only really know him as the scary orc at the door of moria presenting Thror’s head
In my opinion, he was an important part of the trilogy, he was so epic and badass and he was a very good opponent. (sry I didn't read the books, but thats my thought of the films)
I enjoyed all 6 movies
Sometimes I think about kilis death… and I just want to hug the guy who played him and say “you played an amazing role in the hobbit”
The main problem with the films was the fact that huge chunks were NOT in the book, but were added to pad out the story to three films and the crap love story would have had Tolkien spinning in his grave!
Me and my son both loved the hobbit movies, they were so much fun. But some people just have to complain, how do they say it, haters gonna hate?!
Only one thing all together make the best story for a few generations
About nr 9. The world of the unseen. I want to add that Frodo and Bilbo are in very different situations when they are using the ring. I imagine being faced with ringwraiths who live in and interact with the wraith world or being seen by Sauron himself is alot different to Bilbo just being with Golum in a cave.
I remember when they where going to name the 3rd hobbit movie there and back again and we were all just like they are already there 😂😂
I love Hobbit series so much, I don't understand the hate.
Wake up
The eagles. Lets talk about the eagles. Why didn’t they just carry the dwarves to The Lonely Mountain? That would have cut out a lot of the nonsense with Laketown and the Goblins and all of that. And then you can ask yourself, why didn’t they just carry Frodo and Sam to the door of Mount Doom? If only the eagles had played nicely the whole epic thing could have been cut down to a half hour, just saying
Hmmm, it might be a good idea to read the book. In short, the eagles would not take them the entire journey, in fear of being shot by the men of Anduin, who would shoot at the eagles to stop them from stealing their livestock
No offense but I'm so happy Jackson came over Del every time
I love how will Viggo know his LOTR lore.
I really appreciated you not bashing my Hobbit movies. I mean, our Hobbit movies. I truly admire the outcome after all the stuff that happened. Almost all of the crew had to leave for other scheduled work after LotR and new people brought in. Then the legal issues with actors unions over pay gaps of Americans vs NZ actors.
I cannot watch the LOTR without watching The Hobbit First 💝 Too much hate for a wonderful addition to an already classic movie..
Why
@@amandajohnston6915 because The Hobbit precedes the LOTR. If you are asking why to the second part of what he said then its because regardless of the changes they are really good movies and aside from the love story everything fits well without taking away from the feel of the world.
17:33 that's so cool he looks like such a redneck with his hunting camp CAT hat! MERICA!!!!
The amount of times he misspronounses the names of the dwarves is just crazy
same here!
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"You do know dont you, Aragon isnt in the Hobbit"
Depressing to think that they tried to get him anyway. So much love, respect and pride for the books was put into the LoTR triology. It's such a shame The Hobbit didnt get the same get same love, respect and pride. It was just a cash grab 'based on' a book.
Appreciate your video - a nice trilogy!
9:19 Again, as I wrote under the lotr facts video: Viggo the legend.
I don't "hate" those movies. I just think it was a mistake trying to make the same epic trilogy like LOTR
out of a collection of only loosly connected, short childs stories.
They had to fill in so much stuff to pseudo-connect everything, that it stopped making sense quickly.
That and the unmet expectations of the same production quality made them falling apart for me.
Also in the Hobbit Trilogy they repeated too much of the dialogue and scenes from the first Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Lines like, “it drove your brother mad” quoted by Samwise to Faramir and also repeated by one of the dwarfs to Thorin about his father going mad. Also the scenes of unscrupulous characters in the pub watching Thorin & Gandalf which was similar to Frodo, Samwise, Merry & Pippin expecting to meet Gandalf at the Prancing Pony who never showed up etc etc. And that’s just a few examples there are plenty more…
@@CaptainIrvitron Do you realize the gap between The Hobbit and Lord of Rings events are sixty years and there is a chance such dialog repeats through different person regardless much like in real life. It was obvious the movie gave a nods to each other considering they are part of the same universe.
@@TippotipoYou can spin it any way you want, it was “dialogue redundancy” in its highest form and doesn’t come off as paying homage to anything but laziness in writing dialogue for the characters. One or two lines here and there is okay but not throughout every movie of the Hobbit trilogy.
Besides we’re talking about 10 or 11 years between groups of movies, not a 60 years span in the books !!!
Try again !!! 😊
FINALLY, other than Jeremy Jahns, I have found someone on CZcams that thinks that The Hobbit films get so much angry hate as if they were Anne Hathaway.
Too bad we didn't get to see a del toro hobbit.
You sure know your Tolkien 🙂. Impressive research and great video for all of us Tolkien and Peter Jackson fans 😉👍
Im sorry mr narrator but did you just call the megaloceros moose when you just said it is an elk ? As a matter of fact, it is an elk, but better known as an Irish Elk
Del Torros's two movie version would have been vastly superior.
Yep so the story in nz about del toro dropping out - apparently del toro had a passion peoject someone was meant to direct for him while del toro filmed the hobbit. That guy had a crisis of faith and backed out on del toro. Del toro went to film that. Essentiallt peter jackaon waa pissed bc he'd beenbuikding world war 1 planes for war movie called dam busters but had to film the hobbit instead. He didnt want to do it and made it hell for production. They still have the planes ready in the warehouse, sitting next to chittychitybangbang the car. Source: ex partner built the planes and watched the hobbit fiasco go down in real time.
Day One: Exposed to Andy Serkis
That’s a rough first day
Please, what are your sources? I love these films and I would love to know more about them
Thror not Thor. I've watched two of his videos, and he has a really hard time saying names correctly.
Yeah. Also, under #4 he says that Thror was Thorins father, which is incorrect
He also refers to Erebor as Moria. And who the hell is “Baylin”?
Yeah I also like the first two movies, seen them like a dozen times, the third was meh and seen it like two times, second time VERY half-hartedly.. There's no beating LotR ofc, but it's a fine adventure..
Alexander also uses the tactic
I believe with time this trilogy will be remembered more fondly and appreciated for what it did right alot more so than what it got wrong.
Especially with the abysmall Rings of power show now out.
Really the only major weak point of the trilogy is the third film and in particular the pacing of the battle.
Smaug was Perfect. Bilbo was Perfect. Gollum was perfect. The dwarves where perfect. Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman, the atmosphere.
They got ALOT MORE right than they got wrong!
Like completely rewriting a classic for no reason? Give me a break
@@dog-thebackwardgod Yeah we get it you don’t like the trilogy, you don’t have to respond to everyone on here to repeat it
"This isn't why I became an actor!" ... then joins the cast of Cats.
I don't care what anyone says, this trilogy is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
Cumberbatch can't say Penguin. So that something haha
I loved all 3 hobbit films. Thought they weee absolutely brilliant!
THATS WHAT IT WAS, 48FPS - it made me feel SICK as hell to watch
My theory is that Peter Jackson’s cameos. Are actually tom.
You get Bifur's name wrong during fact 18, you call him Beefur.
😢 oh no
You called it a moose and an elk. They are not the same. No one didn't know about Gimli's dad. Not one person watched that movie, saw the scene where he points out his son Gimli, and didn't make the connection.
the hobbit films are great for how it was made and still managing fidelity that is of middle earth, it deserved a delay if it meant it was going to be the best it could be but of course WB being WB that type of thing doesn't sound good to them.
IMHO, in both the 'Extended/Directors' Cut' versions of 'The Lord of the Rings' and 'The Hobbit', the 'Appendices' are as, or even MORE enjoyable, than watching the movies themselves. How Mr. Jackson and 'Crew' managed to pull off these six films is an extraordinary feat!
Bifur has a freaking damn axe in his head and i didn't notice!?
Actually it wasn't shot in 48 fps. It was recorded in 47.95 fps according to the monitors on the BTS
Either way, HFR should have become the new standard. 24 is so painfully bad when you have scenes that Pam quickly over large landscapes.
But it became cool to hate on HFR, even though it was clearly better. And coolness won out.
Oh I so much wish that Smaug at some point said somethign about a penguin. Or should I say ... a pengwing?
In my opinion, the movies should've been called "The really terrible adatptation of a wonderful story" id put it as tied with season 8 of got.
Of course moose is a Clydesdale
Who is Smaag and Saaron, it cant be hard to say Smaug and Sauron for an english speaker, can it?
Wish the studio didnt meddle and that they gave Peter Jackson prep time like in the lord of the rings
i just watched a video on 50 facts about LOTR an the Peter Jackson cameos dont match except the carrot eating one
exactly, everything was perfect except the final batle
Here's a fact for you, in the movie they foolishly used a drake instead of a Dragon as Smaug. A drake having his front arms/legs attached to his wings like in the movie, and a Dragon having 4 legs all separate from his wings.
That is a wyvern. A drake is a juvenile dragon
@@heatherearls9587 technically Tolkien did use the word fire drake and Dragon synonymously, but to explain why the design is still wrong I used today's standard, which is why I said what I said. I did however find one reference that thinks you're just a little right, being that my description of a drake being for a wyvern, and a drake being just any wingless wyrms. Either way thanks for being extra unnecessary.
@@Gong-Fu_Hermit Irony much? Look up a wyvern. Their wings are attached to their front legs. Dragons have 4 legs and a set of wings. I was only telling you because I only recently looked it up to see what the difference between the two is. Thought it was kinda cool so I was spreading what I figured people would find interesting. Kinda like how a graveyard is a cemetery connected to a church. Hence the use of the word yard. Yes I looked both of these up because I knew there had to be something that is different between them. Usually that is the case like the difference between a bug and insect. If two words are used for one thing usually there is something that separates the two words. Sorry if I came across rude. Was not my intention. I find little factoids like that hella interesting.
@@heatherearls9587 I understand my friend, the problem is that the differences are a matter of opinion while my true point is not, that point being that the dragon was designed wrong, while you seem to want to debate the differences between wyverns and drakes in such a way that is to argue these opinion's, and I am not interested in arguing opinions, facts are for arguing opinions are for comparing, so saying straight up that a drake is a baby dragon is an opinion, while saying Smaug has four legs is how Tolkien created him. Now to be fair you only said this because I used my opinions on drakes and dragons to describe the difference, I do not see any point in your statement however other than to try and be argumentative; Because they are made up creatures with different rules depending on what franchise you view them from. So again Ill state that my only point is that Smaug would have 4 limbs and separated wings, like how some of us (not everyone) view drakes as the version we got in the movie. I used drake as my explanation because it's a simple way to explain the difference between what he should have looked like, and what he ended up looking like. Not that the cgi and voice work isn't absolutely amazing and professional. I just would have preferred to see an actual dragon. For me dragons, drakes, and wyverns are all different creatures. wyverns being much smaller scaling from human size to that of a large bear, and having winged arms. A drake is something that can be something slighter bigger than a large bear to something 3 or 4 times larger than that and again winged arms. Now a dragon can become colossally sized and have 4 limbs and separate wings. Similarly I view goblins and orcs differently as well, goblins being longer lived orcs that have evolved more to life in caves, and have become to some extent disconnected from Sauron's full influence.
@@Gong-Fu_Hermit I am not trying to argue, sorry if that's how I came across. I agree100% dragons have 4 legs and separate wings. I suppose a drake could refer to a young dragon as well as what I understand to be a wyvern. Like I said earlier though, my main reason for what I said was because recently I looked up what the difference between a wyvern and a dragon was and the Skyrim, Game of Thrones, and Smug "dragons" are actually wyverns. Not disputing the drake issue because it is commonly used to refer to juvenile dragon kin (including what I called a wyvern) from what I understand and everyone can feel free to use any terms I am not trying to be a grammar Nazi. Sorry for any confusion