300 PRC vs 300 Norma Mag- side by side comparison
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- 300 PRC and 300 norma magnum are 2 of the most popular 30 caliber magnums on the market today. Their extreme popularity is driven by exceptional performance in long range target shooting, big game and long-range hunting and military applications. While both calibers offer impressive performance, they each have their own pros and cons making it a difficult decision when you are forced to choose only one for your specific application. In this video we’ll run both calibers side by side out to and beyond one mile to give you a look at how the calibers actually stack up on the range.
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Gear overview
- Rifle- Barrett MRAD
- 300PRC- Factory Barrett 1/8” twist barrel. Running handloads with the 230 atip bullet
- 300NM- Factory Barrett 1/8” twist barrel. Running handloads with the 250 atip bullet
- Scope- Element theos
- Scope mount- griffin armament single piece- 34mm, 15 moa
- Chronograph- FX true ballistic
- Rear bag- Fulcrum
00:00 Intro
00:39 What are we doing in the video?
01:22 Gear Review
05:04- 300NM 100 yd performance
06:25- 300NM 1450 yd performance
09:47- 300NM 1880 yd performance
11:47- 300PRC 100 yd performance
13:25- 300PRC 1450 yd performance
16:29- 300PRC 1880 yd performance
20:28- Performance review
25:40- My opinion on how they compare
28:20- If I could only choose one....
30:12- Closing comments - Sport
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Totally agree!!!
Great video! Just stretched my .300PRC out to a mile last week! Got 5 hits on a 2’ target, was pretty stoked about it. Thanks for the great content!
That's awesome!
How does it compare to 1,000yrds. Everyone tells me 1 mile is a hole different experience.
@@chrismuncey3861Honestly I found it almost easier. Probably cause I wasn’t expecting to hit anything haha. My dope from the Hornady app called for 17.9 Mils and I ended up at 15.6 mils of elevation so once we got that figured out it was pretty straight forward.
Thankfully I have a 1,000 yard range on my property and shot the mile from the same spot up onto a hillside so am pretty comfortable with the environmentals of the area.
Try it out sometime, it’s a lot of fun!
Congrats man!
Congrats! Last time I tried a mile was with my valkyrie out in Montana. I was hitting the ground about 400 yards shy whe. I fi ally got enough splash to see. Haha
I shot long range for my first time this week. My buddy threw me in the deep end and went straight to 1400 yards. Made contact on the 3rd shot. Best feeling ever! Especially since 300 yards was the farthest I had shot until then. Love your channel and content, bro. Keep it coming! \,,/
Dude that’s epic! If you’ve got the fundamentals dialed in, then shooting 1400yde really isn’t that much different than 300 yds. Super cool you connected on the 3rd shot! Careful though…. Long range is addicting and it gets expensive fast haha
Dammmm that's bad ass 😮
You nailed it on cost! I have both, the PRC is just much more economical to shoot and spending time behind the gun is what makes you better. Great video and summary.
You know I fully expected to pretty much stop shooting 300prc when I got the 300bm barrel but that just isn’t the case. I like having both because the 300nm is an epic performer but for 95% of what I’m doing the 300prc just makes more sense.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I had the 300nm first, tried the 300prc just to check it out. I thought no way it competes with the Norma but found as you said the 300prc just made sense most of the time. Plus spending less makes the wife happy. I had a first round clean, cold bore hit at a mile with the prc last week on a 24’’ disc so I’m happy.
I’ve shot 338 Lapua, 338 Norma, and 300 Norma and 300 PRC. The 300 PRC is just my favorite of all the larger magnums more economical and is an awesome performer. Plus it’s not super overbore like the 300 Norma. Better powder selections also.
I’d like to see the 7PRC in same conditions and ranges as the BC is almost the same with the 190gr A-Tip.
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Oh man it’s part of my identity now! It’s can’t see it going anywhere anytime soon!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica hell yeah brother
That mustache gets him more trim than guitar playing gets me....
Just looks cumbersome 😂
I love long range shooting videos. Today I was shooting my 6.5 PRC and a 7 PRC I made a cold bore shot at 1560 yds 8 mile an hour wind with my 6.5 PRC wind makes it more fun lol
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Very good job with the video and I personally like the 300NM more and I don’t worry about factory ammo because I load my own unless the factory ammo is using the Peterson brass that I want and use. I shoot the 230 grs A-TIPS Match or Berger 215 grs Target Hybrids. Plus the 300NM is part of the MK22 package which is what I wanted for my own setup. 300NM with a 86.7 grs. per round from a 8 lbs jug of powder you get 645 rounds from 8 lbs of LRT
How many jugs have you gone through?
@@chadperry4021 I’m still on my first 8 lbs jug. I’m on my third 8 lbs jug for my 338LM that gets 608 rounds per 8 lbs of powder.
@@fordvg sounds like life is good.
@@chadperry4021 it helps when I bought some 8 lbs jugs of powder a couple years ago when powder was a lot cheaper and I caught them on sale.
I went with the 300PRC for my Kelbly's/ Pac-Nor 26" 1-8.5/Krg Bravo/Tract Toric 4-25x50 project. Ive taken it to 1490 with factory 225 ELD that Im getting for $53 a box at Bimart. Havent gotten into load development yet. Looking forward to see what I can make happen with 250 Atips and/or 245 Bergers. Awesome cartridge and like you said, it'll bring it out to 2K all day. Love your channel. Your 338LM vs 300prc video sold me on this cartridge!
I've also got a Kelbly action that I built my 300PRC on, and it's been out to a mile on two separate occasions with the factory 225 ELDM's. Such a fun setup, and the Kelbly actions are fantastic.
@@popnoice8126 nice! Kelbly's customer service is absolutely outstanding as well.
Great video when I built my 30 caliber magnum I was stuck with a Remington 700 action so I did the 300 rum now to load that properly. It’s a single shot rifle because the cartridges are over 4 inches long. But with 33” barrel i got 3175 fps with 245 berger 3155 fps with 250 A-tip 3180 with cutting edge 240. Its a hammer. Between those I would pick the normal with 245 berger
I’m starting to research on longer range precision shooting. Thank you for this video brother 🙏
Loved the video! The pros and cons of each were excellent and well thought out. I look for anything that features the Norma mags. Love the channel and keep up the awesome content.
Great presentation as usual, thank you. There isn’t a lot of content about the 300NM and this was very interesting to see.
Awesome to hear you enjoyed this one! Wish I could’ve made more impacts on video but it is what it is. Stay tuned as I’ll have more 300NM content coming… it’s one of my favorite calibers to shoot!
Great job discussing projectile selection, ballistics, reloading factors, overall performance, and cost! This was valuable and entertaining on multiple levels!
Thank you for the very informative video, you cover everything for the reloader and distance shooting. Worth saving and watching multiple times.
Another great video, brother. I'd love to see a comparison of .338 norma mag vs .338 lapua mag next.
Aww yeah! I am really loving your videos. This is one of the channels, and THE long range channel I keep on recommending. Thanks for the quality work you are doing!
Really awesome to hear you’re enjoying my content! I’m just a regular guy out here trying to create content that’s not only entertaining but also provides the viewer some kind of value in each video. Let me know if you ever have any kind of video idea you want me to try to tackle!
Excellent! great details we want to hear, great editing- so easy to watch. This comparison was what many shooters were looking for. Me- 300NM, shooting 2400yds- repeat hits, 15MPH crosswinds (245 Bergers, N570) I thought the 300NM was just missing at 1880, while the PRC danced a little more. Thank You! Keep the videos coming, like seeing your channel grow.
I have a MRAD in 300WM and had been debating on my next barrel. These are exactly the 2 I was debating. Awesome video
Hopefully this video gave you information to help make an informed decision. To sum it up…. I fully expected to pretty well stop shooting my prc when I got the nm barrel…. This just isn’t the case. I find myself going to the 300prc more than the nm for the reasons mentioned in the video.
I’m a competitive shooter and used to help a long range channel (back in the day)😅. I really like what you’re doing! Thanks for the info and making it fun! Keep up the good work!
Love the informative content, thanks for the video.
Great video as always brother! Thank you for it!!!
I love all your videos. You are very systematic and articulate in describing each step of your analysis. I learn quite a bit. Still a novice at precision, shooting and loading, but gaining ground quickly in large part to your videos.
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Great video. Hitting anything with that wind at those distances is amazing.
It was really awesome seeing the side by side comparison between the calibers. I will say I'm excited to really reach out and stretch my new 300PRC Barrel in my MRAD. Looking forward to posting my journey as well!
First off, love your channel name! Beardsandbarretts is epic and I’ll check out your content. Second…. You’re going to love the mrad in 300prc. This is hands down my favorite caliber to shoot out of my mrad. Crazy capable, fairly affordable and easy on the shoulder.
@MountainsMulletsMerica I really appreciate that, bro! So far, I only have a few rounds down the barrel at 100 yards. Still got some healthy load development ahead of me. But I'm really excited to get that going and get out to some distance! I really want to shoot that Night Force ELR next year!
Another great video. I don't do any long-range shooting, but I find it fascinating and may try it some day.
NICE!! I have been researching this exact topic for a future extended range rifle setup.
Awesome! Hopefully you saw something in this video that can help you make an informed decision! Ultimately though…. You can’t really go wrong with either caliber.
I have the prc and wanted a norma but cant justify the cost. Thank you for all the data!
Great video, really enjoyed the comparison. Been shooting the 245 berger eol in my 300prc with great results, n570 is magic powder for velocities on the heavy bullets, running average of 2870 out of 26" barrel.
As always, superb video. Love Central WA!!
Cannot wait to watch this in the morning with my coffee. Love all of your videos brother.
Planning on taking my 300 Norma out today, I just got a full size IPSC for this exact purpose.
Oh man, I love a full size ipsc from 1500-1800 yards, big enough to hit but small enough to be a challenge. Thanks for watching!
Why is it every time I look up a video it’s your content posted a day ago. I swear you make content like target advertising. As soon as I think it you’re making a video on it. Perfect timing.
Great video again you answered everything I wanted to know about both like a first round hit from King of 2 miles thx
Great video as usual, awesome job with that wind 🤘
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Excellent video as usual! Looking to get into magnums and have decided to try and stay in the 30 cal range for suppressor reasons (so I don’t have to buy new cans for large caliber). Was pretty set on the PRC but you have really given me something to think about with the Norma…absolutely fantastic performance on that beast
Oh man, if you're purely after the down range performance then I'd say 300NM without a doubt. As shown here it's pushing the higher BC heavier 250 ATIP at the same speed as the PRC is pushing the 230 ATIP making it a better performer at distance. Also in my experience, the PRC is really optimized for the 230 gr bullets.... I believe if you're wanting to go up to something like the 250s going to the NM is a requirement. That said though, I believe both calibers are epic performers. Thanks for the continued support!
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Would love to see some handloading content in the future. I just started learning so I can reload my 338 Norma Mag. Great cartridge, highly recommend trying it.
Great video and comparison!
Another great vid! Keep it up!!
Great video. I watch all your videos. Every video is top notch.
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Im enjoying see your videos, great job
So glad to hear you made a connection with Utah Airguns. Their other offerings such as highlevel PCP airguns are something you might seriously enjoy. Airguns shooting slugs, rather than diabolo style pellets, can connect at 2-300yrds consistently these days.
Really appreciate your thoughts on this- well considered and you make your evaluations with data and logic to support them. I was planning for a Norma rifle, but now I'm reconsidering since I am limited where I can shoot beyond 1500 yards (but really it's more down to skill haha). A 300 PRC is definitely going to get a hard look after this video.
I think the best way for me to summarize my opinion is by saying I fully expected to park and potentially sell the 300PRC barrel once I got the 300NM barrel.... I was expecting the 300NM just to blow me away with how great it peforms. What I've found though is I'm shooting 300PRC just as much as I was before getting the NM barrel and I'm putting very few rounds through the NM. 300NM is an epic performer but for me the PRC does everything I need at a much lower price point and recoil level.
Great job .....
keep up the great work
Bro is just killing it with the content ideas. We need to see a 6mm MAX do-all rifle build review
Another great video, thank you
Very nice comparison, 100 % agreement with your conclussions. 300 Norma is a 2km caliber and it was designef for 230-250class of bullets (or198 flatlines). 300 prc is more 220-230 bullet class case.
Very entertaining and professional video. I'd like to see the test done again using the same bullets in the same weight.
Great vid!
Nice Video mate. King of the 30cals right there
I agree with @dennishines9996. I love this channel. I follow so many precision and long range shooting channels. But i feel like these videos answer questions I've had in my head and never expected to see put to test. It's almost eerie. You walk us through each step so well. You honesty have a talent for shooting and teaching. As well as a mind to bring people's questions to light. I hope to see you channel blow up with new viewers coming in. Keep doing great work!
Really awesome to hear you’re enjoying my content and find value in watching! Just a regular guy out here testing the things I’ve always wondered about and trying to share that experience with my audience! Lots of fresh content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
Well done. Excellent points on both cartridges.
Would be interesting to see you use the 300 NM (because of longer bullet capacity) to compare some of the best BC copper jacket-lead core bullets (such as 250 ATIP) vs best BC Solids (such as 241 gr Seneca from Patriot Valley Arms).
Standard magnum boltface vs 338LM bolt face. That seemingly small difference means you need a much larger and more expensive action in most cases. MRAD doesn’t matter, but many guns need significantly different actions so that yes, while the 300NM is faster and packs more punch, it means a much heavier and more expensive setup that is pretty hard on barrels compared to the PRC.
Man this is a great point I even think about…. Had I not been running an mrad the NM would require much more cost in the action. I’m thinking I’ll revisit this video topic down the road with the same bullet weight in each caliber. I’ll try to work this commentary into that revisit as this is a great point that needs to be shared!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I’m looking forward to it. Looking just at barreled action costs, you can put together a 300PRC on a Zermatt action for as little as $2000 or so with a prefit barrel. A 300NM barreled action will run you another $500+ just for the barreled action. MRAD is a more comprehensive package than just a lock, stock, and barrel kind of build, so of course it costs a bit more. That said, the PRC costs a lot less to run- the brass is much less, the barreled action is much less, the barrel life cost is much less, etc. So for me it’s not a case of the the NM being more capable- of course it is. To me it’s about whether that increase in capability is worth the big step up in cost.
I use lee beam scale and medicine spoon for sprinkle 4yrs now. Over 15lb of powder sprinkled 1 at a time from that little spoon..filed the lip off so kernels roll off better and can throw 1 or remove 1 kernel. My sd’s and es’s are never low enough to do well at these distances I now realize and will be my excuse for the fx lab scale..lol. Both those cartridges im interested in also but for now it’s 6.5prc and ol .308 fn spr…thanks Zack.👊🏻matt
Would you please do a video on the stacking of the MOA on the rifle rail and the mount, and how to zero properly? What effect does the MOA on the rifle rail have on the Zero compared to the maximum available adjustments on the turrets?
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love the 230 atips in my 300wm. The 245 berger lrht are worth a try if you haven't already. They shoot silly good.
I run the 300 notma it's been a great round for elr so far. A little snappy and hars on the gun supressor etc.
Good stuff. Thanks
Mullet man has a habit of testing in a rigorous manner the exact questions I have but either can’t test or don’t have the patience to test to this level. Great job
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@@MountainsMulletsMerica one thing I’ve been pondering is a way to test “precision firepower”, where at a given distance which caliber yields the most hits on target in a given timeframe. So at 500yds 5.56 gas probably wins out, but at 800 we’re probably looking at 6ARC taking over, then 6.5CM somewhere around 1k and 300prc past that. Idk just something I’ve been thinking about, where you balance external ballistics, ability to spot misses, gas vs bolt, etc to get the optimal caliber/platform combo for a given range and wind conditions. Just a thought. I live in WV so the max I can reliably see hilltop to hilltop is a half mile, so I built a 6ARC that I’m happy with for that distance.
Sir I’d love to see your opinion on 300 prc vs 7 prc. Any chance for a video this year?
Yes, this is something I want to get filmed and launched! That said I’m not sure on the timeline. Right now the only 7PRC I have is a Bergara wilderness carbon and that’s not apples to apples with my mrad. I need to work on getting a 7prc barrel for the mrad to truly be apples to apples.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Makes sense, I’ve been loving your 300 prc videos. Looking forward to more.
Super common question / comparison as a lot of shooters seem to be getting into ELR right now. I went PRC as I didn't want to be stuck with the, "proprietary" bolt face of the NM.
Have you ever tried dialing wind? I find I'm able to be more precise using the dot in the center of the reticle.
Keep slinging that lead!
Great job
Damned this Kid is good (I'm OLD heheh) Hey, good catch on that bipod, I''ve seen more than a few 'good' shooters miss that when setting up on the ground.
Let me say something about the wind's influence over undulating ground at range. Perhaps, it's easier to visualize if you imagine you're trying to row a canoe across a river. If the riverbed is flat and uniform, then the speed and direction that the water is flowing is likely to be reasonably close to uniform along your path, thus calculating your desired offset to get from where you start to where you want to land on the far bank is pretty straightforward. HOWEVER, imagine your river not only varies in depth, but in the nature of the riverbed below. As every fisherman, or in fact anyone who's taken the time to observe a series of rivers will have seen, the rougher the riverbed, the greater number and SIZE of eddies, whirlpools etc. Now imagine this river you're trying to cross is 1800 yards or so...and you should have an idea of why long distance shooting over terrain, and NOT a prepared range, are two entirely different things. Oh, bye the way, the physics fellas tell me that rivers are actually pretty much REALLY THICK/WET air " streams " and if you pay attention, you'll actually hear meteorologists describing "atmospheric rivers" hehe.
One other thing, with this young man's demonstrative breathing, sighting, and trigger manipulation skills, I would want to take a fresh look over his hand loading procedures as I was expecting better uniformity of performance from these cartridges as I have a 'wee bit of experience' with the Norma one, a 'bit' more with its bigger brother .338 Norma, and substantially MORE than 'just a bit' with the older .338 Lapua (LM) ;) Note that I'm talking cartridge uniformity out of the muzzle, not projectile impact 1800 yards down range in that wind:) xlnt video call out to the Mullet 👍
Based on my own research and now your video. I like the .300NM. I have also been looking at the .338NM. I like the slightly heavier bullets with the. 300NM
Oh man if you’re after the highest performance possible from 30 cal, 300NM is the ticket. That’s why I plan to keep this barrel around. Funny you mention 338NM… I’ve actually been thinking I’d sell my 338LM barrel and swap to 338NM. I’m thinking the case design of the 338NM will let me run longer bullets with a little more flexibility in seating depth than I can with the LM.
Thank you for the comparison. I would love to see the exact comparison using Hornady Precision ammunition, ELD or Hunter. Thank you!!!
Getting over 2800fps with a 250 grain bullet in .30 cal is pretty sweet.....
It seemed the 300 Norma Mag was more consistent......did I miss something?
Great shooting as usual! You can use a microphone "blimp" (best but expensive) or a "dead cat" to help block the wind noise. Use audio normalizing in your video editor so the volume doesn't go all over the place (there are digital wind noise filters there too but I've had mixed results).
Great info, thank you for sharing! I actually filmed this video a couple of months ago and unfortunately at the time I didn’t realize that my microphone wasn’t working correctly. Since then I’ve bought a new DJI mic setup which seems to have corrected the issue. Didn’t realize there was a way to correct wind noise during editing…. I’ll give that a try when I’m editing the next one of these older videos for launch. Appreciate the support!
Great video and excellent channel. You might want to invest in a full Rycote blimp and furry for your microphone. It’ll clean up the wind issues nicely. Rode also makes an acceptable one that’s a little more affordable. It’ll elevate your content even higher.
I believe I have the audio figured out at this point…… after filming I realized my microphone was working correctly and had actually failed. I’ve bought myself a new mic video that should have future content sounding better. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
Great content!!
Thank you! Really glad to hear you enjoyed watching this one!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica the farthest range I can afford has 6" steel out to 300 so if I can't go long I'm going smaller! Sometimes that one sits sideways so then it's 3"-4". Got my elevation dialed inside the reticle by using the Nikon spot on app since I have an older Nikon scope. A lot of fun!!
great video
Great video and always very informative I only wish would have compared both shooting preferably the 230s but even the 250s since you’re hand loading to get more of an apple for apple comparison and see how big of difference the higher velocities out of the NM made
I do understand that these two weights made the velocities closer which is showing the advantage of higher weights and bc at basically the same velocity
I’m already toying with the idea of a revisit to this one…. Will likely go 230gr in both caliber as my 300prc really doesn’t shoot the 250s that well.
300 norma is by far the 👌
If barrel life wasn't an issue, norma would be a slight winner. I'm still glad I bought a prc
Great video 👍👍👏
Thank you!
Graft and sons have the Hornady 250 grs A-Tips Match bullets for .94 a piece and if you want 5 boxes or more they are cheaper yet.
Great video...great job! Very informative. I shoot an MRAD SMR 6.5CM. The range my buddies and I shoot at have steels from 100 to 600 yards. The CM is perfect for that. We are now wanting to stretch out to 1000 to 2000 yards... and I decided to get another SMR chambered in 300 PRC... but wondering if it would make more, better sense to sell my Creedmoor and purchase an MRAD with interchangeable barrels. What do you think? Thank you... and please keep up your great work.
Building my 1st 300 prc off a christchensen action in a krg chassis with a proof ss barrel.
I've been shooting 6.5cm out of a stock rpr then a white oak then a proof barrel for about 5 years. Wanting that Kinda accuracy in I 200 plus grain projectile. Seems doable
Apparently your having no issues. The rpr vs barrett 300 video was crazy. I never thought the white oak or the proof barrel in my rpr were necessarily any more accurate than the factory which says a lot for the rpr.
Nice shooting! Love that mrad! I just wish I could afford one... $$$-etc, etc...
It would be cool to see your reloading process, especially for gas guns.
good job man ,,,,,,,awesome
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this one!
I admit I'm not a faithful viewer, but I'm have been a subscriber since numbers were a lot lower.
I'm thrilled you're gaining subscribers. Each one of them you've earned a lot more than other channels. Definitely one of the more useful channels for rifles.
Really appreciate the continued support! It’s been a fun journey and I appreciate everyone that has helped the channel get to where it is now! The momentum is there and I’m planning to keep pumping out content…. It’ll be cool to see where things are in another year!
Like the video and the channel. Wish you could have loaded the same projo weight in each cartridge for a true head to head test.
Very fair feedback and in line with several other commenters. Part of the reason I like the NM is the ability to run the 250 class bullets with more velocity than the prc can… that said, I’m thinking I’ll revisit this down the road with a 230 load in each caliber…. Just need to work up a 230 load in the NM before I’m able to film and launch. Hope you’ll stay tuned!
Thanks for the reply. I'll definitely keep watching. Your videos and what you cover are top notch. Thanks for sharing with us.
Ok thanks!
300 PRC. Like you said easier to shoot and cheaper. But just as capable
Not sure what powder you were using, but might not be really temp stable. I've been switching more and more of my loads to the Hodgdon extreme or various temp stable versions as time goes by. Nice for consistency.
Great video. I bet if your hand loads were dialed it would help but you still shot great. Impressive 👍
Yeah I was a little disappointed at the velocity spreads I was seeing when I filmed this one. All good though… my mk22 can just got approved so I’ll need to rework my loads anyway to make sure they run well with the suppressor. I’ll see if I can get them dialed in a little better for the next time I film with these calibers.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica You da man. My boss just bought a Fierce 7 PRC and I have a Bergara in 7 PRC and 300 PRC. We are going to have an employee shooting day and see what kind of hits we can get at longer ranges. We need to have you come up and show us how it’s done 👍 NW Montana
I would see both calibers in the same weight bullets. I think its better comparation.
I was thinking the same. The recoil would be less in the .300NM with the 230 which was one of the complaints. If it’s only a 10 gr difference in powder that’s not much if you reload cost-wise. The main cost is in projectiles and primers and initially brass.
Very fair point….. I’m thinking I’ll revisit this again with both calibers running a 230 gr bullet. I’ll have to get a 230 load worked up for the NM but once I’ve got that I’ll get it filmed! Thanks for watching!
Seems you loaded those rounds a while ago. You should try lubing the necks in order to reduce the galvanization between the bullet and case. 21st century shooting has their moly mix. The dry lube from Redding is one. Lubing cases works according to basically everyone who tested it. Bolt action reloading? Bryan Zolnikov etc. I think Chase Stroud loads into the lands in order to keep the es low.
Since Short Action Customs and Accuracy International have determined the most consistently accurate seating depths to be 0.030"-0.100" off lands. It would be interesting to know how seating far off lands affects ES and SD. Your ammo would have to stay on the shelf as long as the ones you are shooting now in order to have a similar level of galvanization between the case and bullet.
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Enjoy all the videos keep them coming
I chose 300 PRC for those very reasons and it’s in my 11.2 lb hunting rifle. 🇺🇸
Nine shooting man. That wind was a big factor.
Snake river breaks? Looks familiar. Went hunting there ages ago. Do you teach long range precision rifle classes?
M855A1 was designed partly to be used out of shorter barrels and maintain high velocities. It’s also good at penetrating most body armor outside of the more expensive Level 3++ or Level IV that isn’t 6-7 pounds a plate. it also is better at beating barriers, more accurate and has devastating terminal ballistics. Of course it was about being “GREEN” too which is ridiculous. I wouldn’t train with it and use old M855. For combat use I would have M855, M855A1 and 77 grn MK262.
Try some n570 on the 300NM. I'm easily pushing 245s @2930, i was even safe at 3K but 2930 gave me the single digit SD
300 norma improved for the win
I wish I had somewhere to reach out to some distance. There’s a range kind of by me that goes out to 300 yards. Minnesota/Wisconsin isn’t a great place for long range shooting.