Long range accuracy test- match bullet vs hunting bullet
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Have you ever wondered how far you can accurately shoot a hunting bullet? Or what the performance difference actually is for a match bullet vs a target bullet at long ranges? In this video we'll deep explore the real world performance differences in a dedicated match bullet vs a dedicated hunting bullet out to and beyond one mile. Certainly specific bullets have specific applications but in recent years hunting bullet technology has improved making them more accurate at much longer ranges. We'll fire 2 of hornady's most popular bullets side by side, the 230gr atip and 220gr eldx out of my .300prc barrett mrad to get real world data on how each bullet performs out to and beyond 1 mile. I think you'll be surprised with the results.
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Gear details:
- Rifle: Barrett Mrad with factory .300PRC barrel installed
- Scope: Element theos 6x-36x
- Scope mount: Griffin armament single piece 1.45" 15moa
- Rangefinder: Vortex impact 4000
- Match ammo: Ally munitions 230gr atip load
- Hunting ammo: Ally munitions 220 eldx load
00:00 Intro- 520 yds
01:35 opening comments
03:19 Gear review
06:44 100 yd performance
08:19 900 yd 230 atip performance
10:29 900 yd 220 eldx performance
11:28 1425 yd 220 eldx performance
15:24 1425yd 230 atip performance
17:49 1870 yd 230 atip performance
21:21 1870 yd 220 eldx performance
26:33 Summary of performance
31:55 What were my expectations?
33:10 Closing comments - Sport
Shooting a mile in that wind with a non F class rifle is insane. Always enjoy your videos man.
Insane is exactly the word to describe this one haha. Pretty tough to show yourself making 0 impacts out of 10 rounds on CZcams but ultimately it is what it is haha. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
Bro you gotta book classes l!
@@MountainsMulletsMericanah... Massive respect for keeping it real bro. It's easy to just not show ourselves being less than amazing behind a gun. It takes actual balls to show the misses and the flawed sessions.
The best shooting show on y tube. I learn something from every show.Thanks
AGREED!!
Good equipment. Reliable, accurate rifle and optic. Capable cartridge and projectile for the task.Time behind trigger in similair terrain, positions and weather all covered appropriately but that stinking wind can be a pain in the arse!😅
Any of us who have shot past our comfort zone on a windy day have their experience like the last course of fire.
Nice job showing everything in your video. A big help for those who may be figuring everything out. Also the real experience of long range with your method of explaining, setting up, impacts and corrections is a plus for your channel in my humble opinion.
Outstanding.
Keep'em coming!
Hornady ELD-X were pretty good for me but they had noticeably different accuracy than Hornady ELD-M for me in .243 and .284 diameters. The ELD-X were acceptable but not outstanding at 1,000 yards.
However, Berger Elite (or Extreme Outer Limits) Hunters have been nearly identical to Berger Hybrid Match bullets in .243 and .284 diameters and both were outstanding at 1,000 yards.
I've had the Berger hunters out to 1,200 for the .243 diameter and 1,400 in the .284 diameters.
Those berger elites are a real monkey wrench in the distinction between hunting and match. I believe it’s also true that Sierra and hornady have different accuracy requirements for match bullets vs hunting bullets. I’m better berger doesn’t make a distinction.
Found your channel with the carbine zero distance video. Awesome work!
Really glad you stopped by! I’ve got a ton of new content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
I absolutely love seeing your channel grow. Your videos always provide real world, super useful data. I can't wait to see the day you hit 1M subs!
Thank you! I love the sound of ringing steel.
You and me both! Just something addicting about long range shooting!
Really great video showing the 300 PRC in action. Looking forward to the day when i get a 300PRC barrel for my MRAD!
great vid as always with specific details then putting those details to the test. really enjoy your channel.
Would love to see a video going through your shooting procedure. Great shooting and recoil control!
This video was a very thorough explanation. Thank you.
Dude...that was so much fun to watch! Keep up your awesomeness!!
Crazy to see the results!
8:14 time stamp, I’d venture to say the bc variation on the a- tip is much smaller than that of the eldx. As demonstrated in the video , may not show its ugly head in practical hunting ranges , but it most certainly will at longer ranges when traditional ballistic calculators and g7 bc starts to show its inadequacies. Great video as always.
That may be true and we also know the SD is higher on the ELD-X loaded ammo. Just compounding error adding up
@@K-bob_45 correct
10/10
Excellent video my man! This is the type of info I like to see in detail and you really explained every thing well. I definitely like the A-tips for my 6mm loads a day I will look into trying it in other calibers. Great shooting too! Your groups with the A-tip past 1000 were awesome.
Been binge watching your channel lately lol. Started watching your 6mm arc videos and now am watching everything and definitely subscribed!
You always do a great job man!!! Thanks for the video and all your hard work.
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch my content and support the channel! Lots of fresh content coming!
Very interesting! Really illustrates the difference between the two bullet types. Nice shooting, subscribed today.
Great content Zach. Truly enjoy your long gun videos. Presently working on a hand load (Berger 144) for a one mile shoot. Looking forward to your next video.
Awesome set up! Great content!
I love this channel, I like to put it on to learn and relax
Man really appreciate the support! Lots of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
Excellent video, I would just mention that the ELDX performance was much better than expected. Elephant in the room would be wound cavities/energy transfer as there is no free lunch and only compromises.
When you're not sure why your channel doesn't have more followers. You definitely deserve it l, they're very good.
I always wondered where the point of diminishing returns was with hunting ammo. Great content as always, man!!
I've never had luck with eldx bullets at any distance in any caliber. The a tip is one of those bullets that if your gun likes it it REALLY likes it. That's some great shooting. I always enjoy watching you shoot the mrad at a mile +. Looking forward to another
The work you put in is impressive. Thanks!!!
Thank you! It’s certainly work but I’m having fun creating content and folks are enjoying it so I plan to keep cranking videos out. Do me a favor and share my stuff with your buddies!
Excellent channel, very informative, knowledgeable, keep it up!
Really glad you teamed up with TPH/Ally, 2 most informative channels by far.
The TPH/ Ally guys are awesome! They’ve been a huge supporter of my channel and really helped me grow. When the ammo shoots as good as theirs does it makes creating content so much easier!
@@MountainsMulletsMericaDon’t give Wade the big head. It’s large enough already
Thanks!
Keep videos coming. Love them all!
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
Great to see videos like this. I have nothing chambered in this caliber. I do have a bolt gun chambered in 6.5 x 55 Swede which is a pretty capable round. Have mostly shot rounds in the 140 gr size. This round has been around for nearly 100 years and the newer developed chambering always seem to be more in vogue. Very interesting to watch these results
Actually over 120 years old. Awesome cartridge.
Wind sure makes it hard to get consistent results. So many gust variations within the trajectory path.
Good shooting bro 😁
Dude those super sweet safety glasses are the shit.
warbird with the hook up!
That was good shooting in those wind conditions. Interesting to see the comparison between the ELD-X and the A-tip.
thanks for the video ! very nice rifle ! Awesome shooter !
Love your vids. Thanks
Keep up the great content 👏
Sir you are BEAST and seem like a great guy!! I just found your channel a couple weeks ago. THANK YOU for what you do!!
Greatly enjoyed this. Not personally a hunter so I stick to mostly match ammo but have always been curious how the hunting ammo would perform at distance.
My data tracks with yours on the 220 ELD-X vs. 230 A-tip out of the 300 prc. The ELD-X is a great hunting bullet out to 900. The A-tip is great out to 2000 yards due to bc and weight.
Went to Ally to buy ammo to support your sponsor here in mid-April - and they were out of stock on about 60%+ of their inventory. None of what I needed 308 and 6ARC, etc. was available. Tell the boys down in Texas that sponsoring ammo/advertising, creating demand, driving traffic at the web store is a complete waste if you can’t plan inventory management. I get it that having a stock-out of one or two skus will happen from time to time but to have half or more of the items unavailable means something is wrong with the business. Don’t mean to be an azzhole - but if you don’t know what prevents customers that want to buy from you from doing so, you’re running blind. As always thanks for the content.
Fantastic work
Talk about splash!!! Wow. Big boi caliber. I love my Christensen chassis 300PRC. Behaves real well (manageable recoil) with a suppressor. Diamond trigger is a must.
Great practical info, thx!
Excellent video, thank you.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
You make it look so easy, as if wind is the only thing that makes long range impossible to shoot consistently
Hurts to know it will be a while before I can be so stable even with a bipod
Man just keep at it! You’ll get there before you know it! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel
In my real world experience with 6.5CM. The ELD-X bullets have shot better than the ELD-M.
Is that in handloads or using Hornady factory loads?
@@kirbywhite2442 Handloads
I found ELD-X has more than enough accuracy for the 700 yards I get at home. So that's what I load in my 6.5 PRC. That way at least I have a reasonable mid-range hunting load always on tap and well practiced with.
From my experience, no 2 barrels are alike
This just blows my mind, hitting targets at a mile+! 🤯
Great video!
With all this great content, the mustache is the clear winner! 😂 Awesome Video!
Excellent video! Now I’d like to see how match ammo compares to hunting ammo against elk or deer or moose.
Bro's got the farm from the air puff eye test for a shooting range.
So specific but totally accurate
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Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Really awesome to hear you enjoyed watching this one. Do me a favor and share the channel with your buddies! Lots of new content coming!
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Loved the video ❤
Awesome, really great to hear you enjoyed watching! Lots of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned!
Awesome content
Good stuff
Don’t know you but love your stuff!
I wonder in about 20 years when we all look back and revisit these videos if we are going to realize how goofy pit vipers really were😂
Ha this might be my favorite comment on this video so far! Who knows, pit vipers might be a classic style that stands the test of time!
Underrated
Hi and thank you for taking the time to share your experience
I been traveling last 18 days there is no CZcams in the country I visited I know sounds weird but actually outlawed 🤷♂️if you gmail can’t use it I am back
Much respect Bill W.
Hey Bill, Glad to see you back and once again I really appreciate the continued support of the channel! CZcams is pretty much all I watch for entertainment, I'd have a hard time spending time in a country that blocks CZcams haha. Anyway, I hope you were getting to travel for some vacation and had a great time.
Incredible video, perfect format, and interesting material. Thr A-Tip is manufactured to tighter tolerances than the ELD-M or ELD-X, so this is not an accurate representation of match vs hunting to be fair.
You need either a eld-m/eld-x combo that are withing 1-2gr of each other with equal powder charges and go from there.
Yeah boiii there's that Element Theos. I dig it.
Element isn’t a company I was aware of prior to receiving this scope. Tell you what, after several range trips and using it on several rifles I’m super impressed. Great glass but really I love the tool less turret zeroing process
Thoughts..this experiment is great testimony for hand loading. For the $ spent on equipment and ammo you probably should have been way under 1 moa. It might be precise ammo but your rifle didn’t seem to like it. It’s amazing you had as many hits as you did with the wind and everything else to be delt with. Very interesting video.
Great video.
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
I expected more hits from the 300prc Zack tbh…but you are makin good vids to learn from and have got us by the short n curlies so don’t let up….lol…get some Berger eol’s out see what they do….
Loved this video and I was wondering how the .308 230grs. A-Tip would shoot. Have them for my 300NM and I have a case of 300NM with 215 grs. Berger hybrid that I’m interested in seeing how they shoot.
I will be interested in seeing how the .264 153 grs. A-tips work in both 260 Remington and 6.5CM at distance.
That scope looked interesting 🧐 to and wondered what kind of price range we are looking at?
great video.
Good content, have you/could you compare comparable Hornady, Sierra & Nosler?
That gun sounds badass
This dude is blowing all the other gun focused CZcams creators out of the water. I only wish he did reloading too
Love hearing you are enjoying the content and really appreciate the support! I might get into reloading videos down the road but not something I have planned at the moment. I already have so many other shooting related ideas I want to focus on
Enjoyed the video. I expected the 230 Atip performance since I also shoot this bullet in 300PRC. I didn't know what to expect with the 220ELDx. My uddies range goes to 1806yds, what are the odds
230A tip obvious winner
I see you're still rocking with the theos!
Yessir, while the scope was sent to me I’m actually a legit fan. I really like the ability to rezero turrets without tools, the reticle is very functional and glass is solid. Planning to do a dedicated review once I get more time on it.
Nice also are you back up here in Washington again?
The ELD-X line is in a different league then most hunting bullets.
Great stuff. What area of the country is that? I would guess the high plains of east central Colorado (within 50 miles of the Front Range).
Keep going!!
For sure! I’m cranking out content as fast as I can. Really appreciate the support!
I like much heavier bullets Like 285 or 300 try the 338 Lapua..... fun stuff
Cool videos
I want a rich man's setup like you
Awesome
Alot if commenters on Backfire channel would like you to complete in the Backfire challenge.
Please don't let your fans down.
I am 100% down to go do the backfire challenge. I’ve reach out on Instagram but didn’t get a response. Let me see if I can figure out another way to get in touch with him.
Let me know if you get in touch with him. I have emailed him twice about the same thing.
Another great video, question what camera and power supply are you using at the tgt end ?
Just running go pros at the targets. I’ve got a go pro 9 and a 10
The ballistic optimization brought about by this mother fucking mustache shall not be ignored.
Right on brother!
Good content I like the long range
Same here man! There’s just something cool and unique about long range shooting. I’ve got several more long range videos in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned to check them out.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I know you like standard calibers and so do I but my comp rifle I have been shooting 22 gt I would love to see you get into some different things 22 gt/ 6gt /22 creed/ 25 creed just something different if you need any help with the odd stuff I can help for sure
Top Shelf!!!
What's the absolute farthest shot you can make on your land? Really impressive scenery
Oh man I don’t even know…. 2 miles pretty easily, possibly further but I haven’t measured haha. Unfortunately I can’t say I own this land, I just know some friendly farmers that let me shoot in some epic terrain.
Been wondering what Scope Camera you have been using?
Maybe you can make a video on it?
This was filmed with the triggercam 2.1. Great camera. I’ve also used the tactacam in my earlier videos. It’s very likely I’ll do a compare video on them one of these days, it’s on my to do list
Hey Mr. MMM, you had that wind, that you did not need to contend with, you have enough land out there, "I can see", you have "PLENTY", of land, to set up your target "DOWN WING", Sooo, you get an accurate comparison of the two different rounds, you're going for "Range" comparison, not windage, you can figure windage on your app, but to get an accurate "RANGE"/"DISTANCE", comparison, you got'a have dead wind or shoot straight down wind, besides the fact, you are way over 1,000 yards out, that wind is doing six different things between you and your only flag, at the target. so you're just going off of what the flag is doing. Just a thought, Cheers to ya mate!
Nice shooting legend. You should try the X-Ring 1 mile challenge.
The thought has crossed my mind. Only problem is it’s clear across the country from me. Something I’ll keep in mind and maybe try to schedule around when I’ll already be back in the southeast for some reason. The other challenge id really like to shoot in the backfire hunting challenge
Hey ! Would love to have you out and you put out great content. I also suggested to Jim over at Backfire that we should get a few guys like Erik,yourself and myself out for his challenge. I would love to try out his challenge. I haven’t heard back from him. 😢
@@XRING Now that would be something to see. Come on boys do it.
@@conservativesniperhunter7439 Just need an invite and a date and I am there. 👍🏼
@@XRINGwow not sure how I’m just now seeing this comment…. Can you message me up on my Instagram? Or do you have a way for me to contact you? All good if not…. I’m pretty sure our paths will cross at the end of this month
Did you compete in the regional prs championship qualifier in tgree forks montana a few years ago? You remind me of a guy who shot a 260 in it
Nope, can’t say I’ve ever shot a prs match in Montana
@MountainsMulletsMerica cool. Just reminded me of.someone out there. Keep up the great content
Couldn't get the War Bird Pro code to work. Don't really need the ear pro or the discount but want to make sure you get the credit for the sale.
Appreciate you giving me this heads up.... I believe this is now corrected and the code "mullets" should be up and running. Thank you for the support!
And that eldx is still no slouch at a G1 BC of.777 and at 2900fps.
Why aren’t you running your chrono when shooting those longer ranges? I think it’s likely that some of those misses are outliers on your MV range vs an error in the ballistic model
Great question and something I thought about after filming…. I have another ELR caliber compare video coming in a couple weeks where I did run the chrono for the ELR shooting and it illustrated exactly what you mention.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica watching king of 2 mile is like watching paint dry but it definitely got my wheels turning about why misses happen. Every single one of those guys has a chrono on the gun. I think when you’re shooting out to transonic distance it’s a neat must unless you have a ton of data on a given load
I’m beginning to think we should all get a chrono. I recently saw a video about ammo manufacturers not being honest about their ballistics. I’d have to hunt it down, but Hornady was one of the companies in question.
The bob ross of long range shooting
22x lht n waypoint prc gettin zeroed rn….long time comin…22oz scope
135 a tip and n560 made a perfect…264” hole I can’t measure centers of…6.5prc in the 54gr area….153s with retumbo done great also and any little variation in the spread is all me but I don’t say anything is good unless it’s 1” or better….👊🏻matt
How far should you shoot at game?
Great question…. I’ll leave that one for the hunters in the audience to answer
Which one is the hunting round?
The 220eldx
Gonna have to change the name of the channel to mustaches, mullets, 'merica
Haha I love it! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
Hey do you have to dial the scope to zero then range?
Correct, the range finder is only correct at the distance you zeroed it. If you dial up for a shot you’ll need to go back down to zero before you range again
@@MountainsMulletsMerica thank you bud
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