How Chinese students are changing universities around the world
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- In 2017, Chinese international students contributed about $14 billion to the US economy. Most of them are self-funded, with limited access to financial aid and scholarships.
Chinese students have become an important source of revenue for many universities. Is there danger in relying too much on them? In our video series Because China-we go to America’s heartland, the state of Illinois, to explore how one university is adapting.
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>around the world
Only talks about the US, and barely talks about other countries.
Well US is the World ain't it? Meriicaaaaa
Americans: Isn't Texas bigger than China?
The US is pretty much the world as far as they're concerned. Pathetic dickheads.
Yea, one of the most annoying thing with US media
If I had my money...
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Johnny Exodice
Correction: Universities don't 'need' more money - they want more money. They've become businesses, and in doing so - and turning a blind eye to language requirements has reduced the prestige their degree certificates. This is going to have a lasting negative impact for everyone involved.
some fellow college students: they don't even know english, or can't speak it correctly, so it makes no sense
@EastWindBreaks Yes, every institution "needs money" - I think this is a case of them wanting money hand-over-fist, at the cost of watering down the quality of the educational experience they provide, and the graduates they generate.
@EastWindBreaks I can't speak for the U.S., but from the Canadian perspective, unfortunately they are not necessarily having a net-positive impact. The wealthy students' money tends to displace locals needing a place to live. We're in a housing crisis like we've never seen before (not solely due to students, but it's part of it). Local people cannot compete.
The money they spend on cars and brand name clothing tends to be concentrated in the luxury goods markets, strengthening that sector, but doing little for more fundamental sectors in the region.
And, as I've learned recently, even though they pay our medical insurance fees, as we all do, it turns out we're still subsidizing them with our taxes.
This trickle down effect from university students isn't so great, if it exists at all. I'm not saying we should end all international programs, just be much much more selective - profits be damned.
Finally, I was just speaking with a Chinese colleague who was telling me - most of the wealthy students don't need jobs anyway... they just end up running their parents' company, or if they're too incompetent, own real estate that serves as a cash cow. Not a good situation all round.
@EastWindBreaks I can't speak for the U.S., but from the Canadian perspective, unfortunately they are not necessarily having a net-positive impact. The wealthy students' money tends to displace locals needing a place to live. We're in a housing crisis like we've never seen before (not solely due to students, but it's part of it). Local people cannot compete.
The money they spend on cars and brand name clothing tends to be concentrated in the luxury goods markets, strengthening that sector, but doing little for more fundamental sectors in the region.
And, as I've learned recently, even though they pay our medical insurance fees, as we all do, it turns out we're still subsidizing them with our taxes.
This trickle down effect from university students isn't so great, if it exists at all. I'm not saying we should end all international programs, just be much much more selective - profits be damned.
Finally, I was just speaking with a Chinese colleague who was telling me - most of the wealthy students don't need jobs anyway... they just end up running their parents' company, or if they're too incompetent, own real estate that serves as a cash cow. Not a good situation all round.
Beau Tanner clearly, u don’t have evidence to back up ur claim except for a little bit anecdotal evidence
Chinese: Education is important
American: Degree is a scam
Education scams China! Simple
Actually, yes - the American undergrad degree is a scam compared to those of other countries. But people still buy into it. That's how successful scams work. Asians who value education are really better off going elsewhere but the Americans are great at selling dreams so that's where they go instead.
In China, you have to work extremely hard to get a good education, or you may be doomed to menial work for the rest of your life. That’s why so many middle- and upper-class Chinese parents send kids to American schools so they can go to a western University (as I’ve seen at Western University and other places).
the americans are right in this case
They think and mind like that because they have different growth mindset, different education system in their country, and different doctrine and learn about the education in their school's system, even in their sosio-culture that believe the education is important or not.
Hmm… it's interesting. 🤔
Edit :
"… that believe the education is important." to "… that believe the education is important or not."
1:11 that poor guy in the middle 😂
I'm dying from laughing 😂😂😂
Krishant Singha Ikr
lol scrolled down in the comments section to see if anyone mentioned him. poor guy.
i got so scared when i saw him 🤣🤣
😂aaahhh
There are two types of Chinese students who go over seas.
1) Not good enough academically to get into uni in China. So they get sent overseas to get a degree at some easy-to-get-into-uni.
2) Academically excellent student who want the best education, and most of the top unis are in the US.
Neither group are necessarily rich. Though the rich ones, are what you hear about.
For others, sometimes families would get together, and borrow money from uncles and aunts just to send a student oversea. That's how much the Chinese value education.
Well, I wish my "aunts and uncles" can lend me that $200,000 to study in a prestigious university.........
So true
true. ive met chinese students who thought only distnction and higher is good and ive also met students who cant understand any english.
I mean most students from China that study abroad are pretty wealthy, and this is from someone who lived in China over the summer. It's not common for Chinese people to spend money on things that they can't afford, and western education can be a hefty price to pay.
@@oswack Kinda of depend on which country, really. European countries with govt subsidies like Germany is fairly cheap. 15000 Eur is more than enough for a student at public school/uni a year. 8-9000 is just enough if you live frugally. Its not that cheap, but not astronomical like English-speaking countries either.
German Embassy mandates that a minimum of 10.236 EUR is necessary to apply for studium visa from 1st Sep. Before that it was 8.640 EUR.
America is not the whole world.
Yet here you are
Well, it is their mindset....
@@anntauz7890 lol me2
America is a Rogue Nation and a threat to the world
we are the only country that matters lbh here
"Around the world", proceeds to talk about the US only. Seriously?
It's because it's a 7 minute video probably produced in the USA on CZcams (an American company) and they can only focus on so much. The U.S. is just the largest country involved in this trend of increased Chinese students, as the USA is the size of Europe geographically and has the 3rd biggest population on Earth.
If you're going to use 1 country as an example to focus on then the USA makes more sense then using any particular country within Europe or Asia, as those individual countries have less influence, population, recognition, and viewers than the USA.
What are you bitching about dear? It's a 7 minute short video not a 50 min documentary! And what they talk about is the same story in other countries too, so the title isn't super misleading either.
@@issac9930 Or you know... just change the clickbait title to "How Chinese students are changing universities in the United States"
@@vv2955
The UK and Australia were also mentioned and the U.S. problem is very representative of the same issue worldwide.
The majority of prominent secondary schools are located in USA, so if Chinese students are going to have an economical impact on universities you bet American institutes are going to be mentioned the most. Sorry, I know you are trying to sound woke but similar implications are happening in other countries. Stop trying to make it a racist/nationalistic thing WHEN IT IS simply not.
I’m studying in an Australian university now and over half of the students here are from Mainland China.
as a university president, all they think of is money, money, money.
True, it is about how University starts to sustain itself without the government fund, in which international students are the only source of income to keep university running. That is why you see more new buildings pop up everywhere in the campus, while the teaching quality is going down the slope.
send them back
@@phtylersin haha, I wouldn't reckon to send them all back. It may sounds rather xenophobic to me. Most of them study abroad with good intentions, like to gain foreign exposure and a good education. I suggest universities should only accept those who can speak English at a proficient level. In my university, when I communicate with them, I realize communication in English for some mainland Chinese students is still a huge struggle. It just goes to show how universities really want to profit out of them despite their English proficiency. (I'm not generalizing this to all Chinese students though!)
haha heaps of Chinese students study at Australian university.
You have the privilege to study abroad and yet you decide to keep yourself in a bubble. That is an opportunity for real life education wasted, because interaction with people of a different race, culture, ethnicity is an art and a very valuable skill to have.
I also studied abroad and now I have friends and colleagues on 5 continents, and at this point there is noone I don’t know how to talk to.
Which country best for international students and dont cost a fortune?
Aena Mustafa many countries in eastern europe are still affordable and offer a good level of education.
Aena Mustafa avoid Eastern Europe at all costs, unless you are white heterosexual and believe in Christianity. Eastern Europe is extremely intolerant with constant far right propaganda. Even if you are white, degrees from Eastern Europe will looked up with skepticism in Western Europe.
Aena Mustafa best country depends on your country of origin, Netherlands is great if you are an EU citizen, otherwise go for a German taught course in Germany. Another option would be Norway or lower ranked universities in US but it’s not going to be cheap then. Though be mindful of high rates of discrimination in Norway/Germany(though unlike Eastern Europe you wouldn’t face violence, just stay away from East Europeans in these countries).
S G its not much riskier than traveling to any other countries.Of course if you look different you will stand out and that attention is just what it is. It can be good, bad or just benign depending on your own behaviour. Its simply about using common sense of security when in a foreign land; learn the language, avoid high crime areas etc.
I just graduated architecture school in LA. Even my school has Chinese international students more than half. They speak in their native language in the school and gathered together all the time. The "Comfort Zone", according to my Chinese friends, is much stronger than we imagine that they can't get out of the village as a complete individuals. I think they'er both beneficial for both Colleges and Chinese students but I don't believe that's as beneficial as others expecting international communications.
Genki Matsukawa I always like the comments which are written by people like you, who have so much patience to write down such a long comment!
I totally agree with you on this point. the same thing happens in be UK universities, wish there were more involved with some students rather than staying within their community the whole time
I went through the same thing in Singapore. I was the only Indian student in a class with majority of Chinese students. I realized that if you approach them, they are helpful but otherwise they would never go out of their way to talk to other people.
yehoutube meaning because I’m also one of international students or specifically I’m a japanese?
I admit this is kinda sad. But I think it is more or less a unversal weakness of human beings. If there are hundreds/thousands of japanese students in your school, will you speak Japanese or English to each other? And how about the same situation if you are German or French?
American College students:
Absolutely no one:
Chinese students: *flexes Gucci, chanel ,balenciaga merch*
Most are replicas
@@riyokar6159 sorry, for those study abroad , they are unlikely to wear counterfeit simply caz they can afford them.
lmao
@@riyokar6159 yeah chinese from china who go abroad are all hella rich lmao. they dont have a sense of money so they wouldnt even waste their time to get fakes lol......i cant relate :(
Did you see any of those things in the video?
University of Toronto is literally all Chinese
You should have gone to Vancouver and see how things are changing. lol
Just so you know alot of those are also locals. As Asians immigrant shave higher grades in highschool they end up being a higher proportion in top tier universities.
Lol true. St George Campus especially
Literally? So 100%?
@@lefu7812 utsc isn't that far either...
I mean their population is more than one billion of course a lot would come here
Since when is Illinois, United States, now THE WORLD?!?!
@@ecoro_ Sinophobes and Racists everywhere
Sayuri Desu who’s the racist?
@@agbaya5314 Those who are anti-chinese Sinophobes. Haha, America is number One in making the world and american citizens poor and live in poverty. But the Communist Party of China makes its own citizens and partner countries Rich
@@agbaya5314 Then report that to the Chinese Central government to have it investigated and hopefully get those wrong doers executed. Not all Chinese people are good, some are traitors and abusive. But the Central government will work fast to eliminate Corruption and criminal behavior.
Sayuri Desu your government is secretly corrupt. They establish shady deals in Nigeria with secret third party members, behind the presidents back, and that’s how they get access to a lot of things in my country. They even inflate the prices for infrastructural projects like railway. Something that is supposed to cost just $200 million, a Chinese person will sell it to us for $1.2 billion. And this happened with the Nigerian railway infrastructural project. They sold us old trains that looks like they were made in 1923. I can go on and on about what the Chinese do. Bad bad things.
The only country China loves is China. They want to build an empire. That’s why they’re fixed on getting Hong Kong and Taiwan. Then capture the Asian continent, then spread to the African continent.
You people..... gosh.... I just wish you never existed, or at least left my continent alone. You are killing it!
This video has triggered both Chinese and Americans equally.
Flamingpiano lmaooo too true
1:11 omg that face in the middle of the screen
Because China
Muhammad Afiq LOL
Derp!
That freaked me out
IMPORTANT:
There is almost nothing in this video about the bad social and economic side of the changes. I am not really familiar with the US education system, but here in the EU, specially in eastern europe, this is causing a lot of problem. We need to mention the increasing privatization of the public schools, high schools and universities. There is a lot less opportunity and support for the local (and not local) students from the low social classes, because of the dropping rate of the government-sponsored scholarship and the increasing tuition fee. Not the mention the increasing rent and real estate prices and the gentrification.
Sht, I’m Chinese, studying in USA. When I was kid, my school and family forced me to learning. Monday to Friday( mostly 7 to 2pm. Lunch plus nap time, and went back to school till 7-8 pm( night school), guess what, finally waiting until weekend, sht( my parents signs me up with those Olympic math courses, ) and yes, I barely having any time to play video games in the past. ( well, I don’t needs to clean up anything in my house. But I do cooks for family one for while, as long as I’m learning, my parents will clean up house mess for me). In back then, I hate all of those stuff, but now, I’m more willing to be acceptable. ( don’t ask me why, I don’t know, jus personal emotion feeling about it). All the stuff I wanna said is that western family do not really FORCES their kid to learn. God, if I can send u a pic about my personal bookshelf and the stuff I recorded during my high school years in China. Ur kid will hate u, lol 😂. Maybe our teacher in high school and parent implies to me, if I’m not willing to learn, I will be into bottom class, ( and yes, our system kinda making us really competitive, mostly because of GAOKAO, final exams in final years of high school, it is supper important, that kinda determined which college u can go(one point of difference can beat out 10k of people(1.4billions people in China, do ur own math, unlike USA mostly r talking GPA ( grade per average, hopefully I’m right), off course I wish my high school is like this. It will definitely makes my life ez
ze yan it just happens to u. u have a rich parents live in the first class cities in China.
How can American firms ever possibly find cheap labors in China if all of them are forced to be educated and pay a hell lot on tuition?
我们都会犯同一个错误……
那就是以篇概全
@@user-hl4hl9li6o robots 🤖 are the solution
@@zeyan449 all this studying, but your grammar still sucks
@@adshille8987 yeah, let's see how many languages u can speak
This is common to human nature. Human beings do it.
Westerners live exactly the same way in Africa (gated compounds, exclusive social gatherings) - they don't interact with the locals. The only ones that do are missionaries, researchers/graduate students and eccentrics. (Think about the "Green Zone" in Iraq and the fortress like embassies US diplomats tend to hide inside of in much of the developing world).
I had the same experience as a student in the UK, it was a lot better and a lot less complicated to interact with fellow Africans (The British tend to like to keep to themselves).
Can anything be done to change this? I'm not sure - you can't pay the humongous amounts these students pay for tuition and be "compelled to change your behavior". Capitalism 101 means they will simply take their money elsewhere.
White people in Africa think of blacks as their slaves. It doesn't change if the African goes to UK. British people still regard blacks as their slaves.
"There was a color pattern in the huge crowds. Once I happened to notice this, I closely observed it thereafter. Being from America made me intensely sensitive to matters of color. I saw that people who looked alike drew together and most of the time stayed together. This was entirely voluntary; there being no other reason for it. But Africans were with Africans. Pakistanis were with Pakistanis. And so on. I tucked it into my mind that when I returned home I would tell Americans this observation; that where true brotherhood existed among all colors, where no one felt segregated, where there was no “superiority” complex, no “inferiority” complex-then voluntarily, naturally, people of the same kind felt drawn together by that which they had in common."
-an interesting passage from Malcolm X autobiography
@@alfredhitchcock45 maybe a long time ago, not anymore. only racists would go to a continent that isn't theirs and think of the population as "slaves" but the majority of white people in Africa now are AID WORKERS for NGOs and they don't think like that.
exactly
@@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 I'm not sure about that. There are probably more oil and gas industry workers than aid workers. And in any case, the aid workers don't even interact that much with ordinary Africans. To start with, they don't live in the same parts of town. Photo ops create the impression that there's a whole lot of interaction, but those of us who live in Africa know that it is not true. For example, when I went to visit the DFID office in Enugu, Nigeria, I had to pass through as much security checks as probably the "Green Zone" in Baghdad. DFID workers don't interact that much with ordinary Nigerians in the course of working - and they probably have zero interaction with ordinary Nigerians in their social life.
It’s pretty trippy being a college student and experiencing this phenomenon as I’m watching this video.
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My roommate is from Shanghai and I had fun teaching him how to make his first Instagram account. It’s interesting how he has so many other friends from the Chinese middle class going to US colleges. I initially thought only upper classes are able to afford US tuition, but times are changing in China. I think it’s very nice to give and take western and eastern cultures. It helps broaden our and their perspectives of the world.
zigyzigy13 wdym??
A typical Chinese family has one child, sometimes two. Chinese are very frugal about some things, but many of them will save all the money they can to invest in their child's education. The two major investments Chinese make in their lives are purchasing a home and paying for their child's education. For many Chinese, nothing is more important to them than making money, saving it, and investing it in those two things.
Middle class is in the eye of beholder though. To some, someone identifying as middle class is upper to wealthy class. Income and assets level is what determines this correctly but most kids these day like to say they are middle class when they have no idea the luxuries they are drowning in and think well as long as I don't live like Kim Kardashian i'm not rich. That's not how you determine that socioeconomic level.
Couldn’t agree move with the missed opportunities between American and international students. For Americans they will get the experience they desire, but for Chinese students they form their own communities usually without making American friends or using English casually.
Why I love living in London it's nothing like that tbh
They speak Arabic in England instead 😎🤣
Everyone is quick to criticize Chinese students for keeping to themselves, but have you ever seen American students reach out to Chinese students and make an effort to get to know them? I go to a university with a lot of international students and I definitely see a lot of subtle racism/misconceptions about the Chinese. It's easy to judge/blame on the other side but in reality, both sides are responsible.
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I decided I was going to make an effort to talk to more of the Chinese students in my classes one semester. The only ones that had any interest in chatting beyond simply being polite turned out to actually be Americans...
@@ThoolooExpress That's unfortunate but your experience with several Chinese students isn't representative of all thousands of them.
@@jennamarcus4283 Didn't mean to say it was, but just that you can't really say that American students don't try, many do, it's not as simple as it would seem.
ThoolooExpress totally agree
Chinese students live in their shell and comfort zone. Comfort of similarity and insecurity because of language barrier.
thats why they remain so damn soft.
NoName not me baby
SAMPSON YE I see a lot of Asian kids In the club. Where u at? Alabama?
LOL please, this is just most people. Humans tend to aggregate in familiar environments in general.
What's wrong with they stay in comfort zone? You do realize these Chinese kids are come from rich family, when they graduated, they are gonna back to China, and earn a lot of money. It is good for American right? American society earned money from them, and you don't need worry they steal your job. These kids in general are pretty good behavior, they don't break laws, or asking too much from society. They are way better than most other immigrants I have seen on news.
As a Chinese international alumni from this university, I want to point out a few things:
1. The major reasons preventing Chinese students interacting with domestic students include: difficulty of Chinese students in communicating in English, especially informal English and English speaking, the lack of tendency to interact with less familiar people or to explore novel things in Eastern Asian culture, and the subtle racism from some domestic students.
2. I was one of the co-founder of the first student organization for international students in the physics department of the university, and I am the only Chinese international student who actively engaged in student organizations in the department (at the time I was in the university). Most Chinese students either only talked to me in Chinese or did not talk at all in those events held by student organizations. And there were definitely some subtle racism. Come on, it is a public university in the Midwest. Also, there were some weird people with weird behavior. But there were also an equal number of, if not more, amazingly good people.
3. I suggest international students spending more time getting to know every part of the university and interacting with domestic students as much as possible when studying abroad. I used to have a walk around the quad at the center of the campus every day. Watching this video just reminds me so much pleasant memories.
I think it applies to every international student. They tend to be in their own similar background group due to sense familiarity. Something in common to break the ice in a foreign land. It requires time for them to adapt and break out of their cocoon. Plus it can be intimidated to most to converse in non-native language, adults don't like to be judge and first impression is everything. Also, different culture. People in the UK like to go to pub for socialising and drinking a lot! Asian people prefer socialising over food lol.
Thanks for your perspective! I think the ost relevant bit is this part
"difficulty of Chinese students in communicating in English"
the frustrating thing bout uni's is that they're more than happy to take in the international students, but they have no checks to ensure that they can even survive/assimilate in an English speaking culture. These uni's should atleast prep these students to be able to have a decent convo. But they look at these foreign students as cash cows
Could you give some examples of subtle racism towards Chinese students? I want to make sure I don’t say something offensive or racist by mistake when I am talking to international students from China. Also, do you have any tips for things locals can do to make chinese students feel welcome?
@@KB-jz1nq Example 1: pretending to accidentally hit a stranger who is an international student without saying sorry or any explanation. The "accident" is quite obviously intentional, even if it is not, the person should at least say sorry.
Example 2: On an event, locals are happily focusing on talking about topics and using slangs only locals can understand. The international students are clearly confused, silent and left out, but nobody cares as if the international students just do not exist in the room. And, the purported topic of the event is quite formal and has little to do with local customs, such as a discussion about how to do research as an undergraduate.
I think it is very cool that you are interested in communicating with international students. As long as one has a good intention and uses language that is easy for them to understand, there is not much to worry about.
Universities and immigration departments demand a certain level of language to be considered for entry (and in Europe, it's quite high). But then you meat Chinese students whose level is clearly below what is required. So somewhere in the language tests they take back in China, there is a problem: either cheating or the tests are shit. Up to them to fix it.
Thank you Quartz for this video. Shoutout to Isabelle Muge Niu! I've been watching you on ChannelC since my freshman year in high school. Five years went by so fast and your videos are only getting better and better!!
eh, this hits too close to home
In New Zealand I don't even notice the Chinese students because I think they're New Zealanders lol
Our population in Auckland the biggest city is 25% Asian 25% Samoan lol 50% everyone else lol
Nobody cares
That's excellent. Diversity is our strength
@W W Australia and New Zealand share accents and New Zealand wishes it had Kangaroos
Phew! Good thing you said that. Now the NZ govt won’t bust down your door for expressing some sort of racist wrongthink.
@@slicedtopieces They shouldn't arrest people for being racist, but they should keep an eye on them. Especially after that mosque massacre in Christchurch.
That last part is sooo true in Australia as well. There's always this segregated world between domestic and international students..
that chinese football commentary was one of the most intense sports commentary in sports history!
I am a Chinese international student at UIUC
Most of my friends are Americans
And I love UIUC so much!
so proud to integrate, right?
I envy you soooo much
I am going to college right now. It is absolutely a business. My professors have talked about the next recession and the school has a plan in place. In the future, new students will be FORCED to go learn abroad because it is more profitable this way. I firmly believe that the best thing we can do for higher education is to cut funding and restrict how schools generate money. Our universities should be for Americans and do what needs to be done: to teach. I suggest you look at universities in your area and see how much is spent on activities that enrich a student's school culture experience. A lot of money goes into places where they try to make the college experience a fun one so when that student graduates they are more likely to donate annually. The last recession completely changed the college landscape. The next one will do the same. My school is making freshman and sophomore students live in campus. If you are a freshman then you cannot have a parking pass. I hear many stories around the nation and will only get worse.
whats so bad about that? everyone going everywhere :) international orgy hmm
i want some indian and brazilian chicks and russiaaaaan
I opened this video because I'm a student at U of I and I was curious about this topic (because I know tons of Chinese students) and immediately they were like "let's look at Illinois" 😂
1:11, in the center, you cannot unsee that.
DeepSpace12 😂😂😂
sorry to burst your bubble but there is world outside the states
tamwar er first econom, of course the world is basically the us
i stg 50% of students in my college are either Chinese or Indian.
Which group are more likely to interact with someone outside their groups, the chinese or indian?
Aryan 10 Indians 100% for sure and I’m Filipino.
@Aryan 10 indian students use to have white girlfriends
@Dark of the knight Nope
Aryan 10 but no one like to interact with Indian
Well edited video !!
I'm studying at The Royal Institute of Technology KTH in Stockholm, Sweden, and the amount of students from China and India has increased noteworthy for the past few years.
I'm really curious about that. Do they have classes in Swedish or in English ?
@@shakya00 Commonly, while studying for a bachelor's degree (year 1-3) about 75% of lectures and about 50% of the course literature are in swedish, while the rest are in english. The exams and assignments are given and answerable in both swedish and english.
While studying for a master's degree (year 4-5), the courses and everything related are completely in english. A big majority of the international students are on master-level and there's only a few on bachelor-level :)
Alex Olsson Blonde cuties need some diversity. Such an opportunity. Need more Latinos and africans though
In Canada I paid about around $8,000 a year.
My Chinese friends paid about $20,000 a year.
So yeah its insane
I think it's generally great that these students are coming overseas but I'm never a fan of people who go abroad and then only stick with other people from their country... The language barrier shouldn't be that much of a problem, since they also study in English. I study in the netherlands and half of my friends are dutch and the other half are internationals (not necessarily from the same country as me) and that way it's super fun!
5:50 Lmao American football games in Mandarin
Too funny
Just want to point out this is happening in some non-western countries too, albeit for reasons different to the US/UK/AU. I live in Japan which is undergoing a dramatic decline in youth population. As a result the universities have become increasingly dependent on Chinese students. I suspect the situation is similar in Germany.
This shows the story from a Chinese perspective... not from a western perspective. From a western perspective, whenever a country develops, that country has a shortage both of university seats, and quality. The happened in Hong Kong in the 80s until they expanded and built more seats. At one time Singaporeans travelled to the west for education. And a long time ago Canadians and Americans travelled back to England, spawning the need to found Harvard. Yes, China is large, but they are only the most recently developed middle class. As Chinese universities catch up with their domestic need for seats and quality, fewer Chinese will go to the west for education. But, another country or two will have developed a middle class and the same process will repeat again. This is already occurring with some faculties having more Indians than Chinese....
You took insurance against students now that's called pure american 😂😂😂
Very interesting!👍😁👍
Hey, under the Australia graphic you have the Victorian Parliament, not the national parliament, but for the UK you have the Westminster Parliament, what’s up with that?
I hope China will open International universities and recruit professors from other countries to teach in China. In this way, the smart chinese students will stay and work in China.
I'm about to study abroad in the near future, and I'm totally fine with "interacting more with the locals". However, due to the huge culture gaps between the East and the West, it's never easy to do so. Imagine you are a German or Australian student who studies in Japan, and maybe you will do the same as the video demonstrates. In fact, most Chinese universities have a lot of Uygur or Tibetan students cuz the state's policy requires, and as far as I can tell they are also much more likely to hang out with fellas who come from the same ethnic group, even though they are Chinese citizens and they can speak Chinese pretty well. It's just the nature which everyone has.
yup, not just because of social status or ethnic hierarchy. Just cause they got homies there.
@@yummychips_ its more to do with understanding each other emotionally thats why. the way we show our feeling is connected to our culture and tredation and fortunatly every ethnic and nation are different.
Nice soundtrack
The U.S does education as a business. International students pay a high price, colleges offer them diplomas. Really good deal for the U.S
There are LOADS of Chinese students in London universities and they never interact with non-Chinese people... Imperial College London is also known as the university of China.
Seems this trend happens literary anywhere.
I saw so many Mainland Chinese in London in every street quite scary how they can just take over and overwhelm like that. What happened to diversity?
@@marcduchamp5512 they get better grades than locals and take their courses?
Guess it’s becoming another china town
Just remember (UK uni students) that ‘student loans’ are NOT LOANS- they’re a ‘graduate tax’. This means, if you earn over £26k then you pay a ‘tax’ which goes towards paying off your ‘loans’. Only the income you earn over £26k gets used to pay the ‘tax’.
It’s basically like the uni saying “Hey! We see you’re earning over the average UK wage there- I think we contributed to that fact so we’re just asking for a little bit of money in return, since we helped you earn that much!”
And if you haven't even paid a penny towards your degree, it still gets written off 30 years later!
Awesome
Amazing story
I experience this at my U.K. university. Chinese students keep to themselves and rarely integrate. A lot of them spend years here barely improving their english! I would love to make friends with them but it's very awkward.
coco blu I’m Chinese and studying at Australian university. I feel like local student just don’t want to talk with me every time I try to communicate with them. It’s really awkward. So I kind of gave up talking with them. 😂 Anyways, it’s very nice of you. But many may not be that nice.
@@irishu8166 I guess it's a warped perception on both sides. I would happily spark up a conversation but I've found Chinese students usually travel in groups or seem too shy haha. Maybe one day!
coco blu 😁
Same thing here in Canada.
UofT cough* cough*
Howz my peoplekind over there?
This is the first time I’ve seen a news story about a place I was living in. I had no clue that dating show existed.
I’m an international student in a public university in Paris, France (I’m from Indonesia). I study history and the courses are all in French.. in which I have a c1 level in… even still it’s still difficult grasping the Parisian slang and the slang that my classmates use. However, I’m one of the only few international students from non-francophone countries, hence I tried my best to integrate well with the French students though it can be a little tricky. I may be privileged since I’m thrown into the local customs right away but I think some international students just need to explore and integrate with the host country’s community
Meanwhile I'm a student in China and I'm changing nothing..😂😂😂😂
Shimeih no way! Are you Chinese and know English or born in America or somewhere else?
@@bluemushroom415 no. Just a foreigner learning in China. I'm from South Africa.
@Kill Team Charlie the internet is such a great tool.
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Please come back, we miss you.
Imagine what would happen to the US economy if everybody went home at once to their home countries
Then the native indians would take over again?
@@tonyz1933 ouch
@@tonyz1933 based af
I was enrolled at an International economics program at UBC, and international students there pay $50000 per year, not including books or living expenses!
Kevin Kang that’s average
There are so many international Chinese students on my campus in the UK but as said in the video there is a lack of communication between these students and domestic students which I think is a big shame. I would love to interact with these students but frankly they seem pretty fine within their own social circles. The universities should do more to encourage more interaction between these groups as it can only be beneficial for both!
I study in a Portuguese university... I do see an increase in the number of Chinese students... But we are talking dozens here, not hundreds or thousands...
why the fk would we come to portgual to study? you dont even have a university in top 10 of the world
We pay, and America want us. Simple like that. It’s Chinese wealth goes into American’s pocket, simple like that...
Yeezy There are good universities in Portugal, and well known in Europe. You clearly don’t know much. What might discourage international students is the language barrier.
5000 at my university
@@VinyZikss so stop buying it, they sell for poor people
1:11 that edit though....lol
Ryan VanGelder lol
@@Checkererbse285 nice pic
wow, I was on the second floor as staff at that time.
The host of this video really did some work in pronouncing people's name, whatever Chinese, German..... great job.
1:10 Was kind of a creepy shot..
I do agree that most Chinese students do not interact much with others...
its not only the students
分人吧，这个论调太偏见陈旧了。同样，在中国的留学生里，法国同学，韩国同学，美国同学都有自己的圈子。All is same.
@@Yok_Knnn i am a chinese by etnicity, i believe Kenny also. I do feel a bit any boundaries to me to blend deeply into others crowd, i dont know why, it happen also with my friends and people i knew well.
@@dionlesmana3172 那这是性格问题了，和国籍没有任何关系。依我愚见，这个和个人成长背景，家庭教育环境以及个人认知有关系。我们身边的朋友们大家都玩的很好，人总要有朋友的，和哪个国家的关系不大。所以我之前在北京的时候发现学校的韩国法国同学也是只和自己国家的人玩，这个没什么可以议论的。至于你说的你不太能够和其他群体有深入的关系，我觉得这个完全取决于个人性格。就像地球上每个地方都可以看到太阳一样，每个地方都有这样性格的人，并且我觉得没有任何问题，我也是这样的人！这个和我们的ethnicity没有关系。我现在身边的法国同学里也有性格内向的，这都ok的！
Because they can't speak English and have no interest in learning idioms history culture. They only want bragging rights back home in Weifang.
Am I the only one curious to know which jazz piece was playing in the beginning of this video ?
Good video
I think something that should be examined is how so many international students change the way classes in western universities have to function. I know as a CS tutor in university it was very difficult to help Chinese students who couldn’t understand me. I think there is also a difference in the way Chinese culture sees plagiarism and cheating, and this issue has become a major problem at my university.
That mean your university isn't strict at all despite reputation.
I agree with the first reply. Most international students (majority of whom are Chinese) in my university cheat, plagiarism or pay people to complete assignments and exams. Now my school does have a strict policy for academic integrity using the MOSS programs to detect copying code and other various methods to tackle this issue. However, this is all up to the lecturer or professor. Now, this also creates a problem because these students are artificially inflating the average grade in the class, typically known as the curve. This encourages other students to do the same in order to keep their grades as high as possible.
@@kevind97 Add to this that those chinese students coming to the us usually are really rich and quite often just didn't meet the requirements for the universities in china.
Honestly, the chinese students in the usa are way too filthy rich. Most dont have a sense of money lol.
YES! I teach university students in China. The lines of plagiarism are blurred and there's not the same stringent levels of accountability regarding plagiarism when a student is caught.
Edit: While some of these students are definitely cheaters or unqualified, let's not be so quick to assume all. I find that my students lack the skills/depth of understanding when it comes to the documentation of sources and international standards. These students must have exposure and mastery in research skills to be able to academically succeed and avoid plagiarism abroad.
Why was that Chinese football translator so angry?
Not angry, just excitedly shouting.
@Dapper Don You are meta af like me
similar to GOOOOAAAAALLL for english speaker
@@alexliu5806 the football team here isn't known for being, well, good. Anytime they do anything halfway decent is cause for celebration.
Because that's their language. My dad used to say if you put two Chinese people next to each other, you'll get the sound of a market place, three and you'll get a stadium.
My school which is near UIUC gets most of its international students from China too.
I like Chinese but what I really dislike is that they are so much into staying together. If I would travel to China, I would not spend my time with people from my country. This whole "china town feeling" is cool but also somehow disturbing.
Professor Hans de wit looked like Jeff Goldblum at a quick glance
Tbh I see this video only doing worse in diverging both parties by stereotyping Chinese international students and only showing one side of them. How about showing some Chinese students who are more extrovert and sociable? 🙄️ Don’t tell me there isn’t any.
Yes, there are. Usually the chinese girls with western men fetish. Lol
Sarah Mahalingam You are making some kind of highly generalized comment and trying to stereotype and offend people. Why don’t you talk about white guys with “Asian fever” or something like that? You are being very irrespective if you did not realize.
@@peterzhou372
1-woosh 2-don't worry, I see plenty of non-Chinese girls with other "ethnic" fetish
Bobbius Shadow I mean it’s a human nature thing. Some people do have ethnic preferences while some don’t.
Bobbius Shadow More asian women means opportunity for white men since their women are leaving them in droves
Maybe it’s different in university or other country’s but in England my experience of Chinese students in secondary school and sixth form is that although they do like to socialise with each other, us locals made an effort to get them involved in school life and they were very much part of the school dynamic
as someone who moved from china to the UK when I was 15, I envy and jealous of what your school did, and thankful at the same time. Us chinese never wanted to not join conversations and interact with the locals. I will take myself as an example. As a 15 years old that joined the school in the uk from a completely different culture that values everything differently. I tried very hard to interact with school mates, just to realised we had completely different lives. I dont know what the other kids do everyday, I dont know what they play everyday, I dont understand there jokes, I dont speak in the same style because of different ways of thinking, I dont know what songs they were listening, I dont like football and its never really a big thing in china, but its a shock to the locals that if you dont know much about football at all. I dont know what TVs they are watching, I dont like the local foods, I dont see things from the same view point as the locals, and so much more. We can go on and on about all the different things, it will never end. So, after realising these diferences, I resulted to getting on the internet and tried to learn everything about it, but as you might expected, its a very perverted way to learn everyday lives through the internet, which ends up in me seemingly as a weirdo sometimes, and coupling with the language barrier, the result didnt end in good ways. and the constant bullying in the school because I'm different from them didnt help either.
Seeing your school is making such effort really warms me and I appriciate so much that the school even considered to making such moves. Any help could go a long way to help breaking the barrier and could help us all understand each other more.
As for the video matter that chinese students in universities dont interact with the locals. The same difficulty still exsists, but instead they are young adults, having there own world view, there own life style and the way of thinking. its really hard to change when you are grown out of teenhood. So when they are seeing what they are facing with, its not hard to understand why they dont bother with the locals most of the times
DongsMBM wow I’m sorry to hear that but may I say you’ve done a great job of breaking that language barrier. A British secondary school is scary to everyone so I can only imagine what it was like being foreign there. I just assumed that all foreign students were treated well as that’s what I experienced. Hopefully it’s gotten better for everyone since your time in school
@@DongsMBM Its true. Good POV.
What’s the name of the background song at the end?
1:11 that's an unflattering image
I made several Chinese friends back when I was in university. Very nice and generous. Sometimes we get into politics. They think they are right, I think I’m right. At the end of the day, it’s nice to have friends than enemies. To this day, I’m doing several business with them. University is what you make of it. Some go for degree, some go for the experience but most never go for the connections. Set the difference aside, Talk to them learn some Chinese. Never hurts to have crazy cigarettes smoking business people on the other side of the world.
Everyone: Universities are changing
Me: lol that guy at 1:10 looks weird haha
TOP GUN hits different!
@Step 4head Hold up! I'd like you to clarify what you just stated. Are you saying that because International students don't pay taxes, the colleges are right to charge them more for tuition? If that's what you mean then you really don't know what you're talking about.
I'm an international student and I pay taxes every year. In the US there are no VAT returns so I still pay the same price. The next thing I know is that when I get to school at the start of the semester, I end up paying 10 times more for tuition compared to the in state resident. That same resident is also gonna get financial aid to pay for their textbooks as well and even school supplies from the college bookstore. When they get their books, they buy all the recommended and optional books as well. What do you think the total comes to for them? Almost no cost.
Me on the other hand? I'm not even going to a four year college and I feel terrible. Okay the tuition I can understand. VAT? Maybe. Because we're in the States not the UK. Books??? I don't even buy all the books and I spend $2000 for 6 books for 5 courses (Half if which I don't end up using but can't return yet because the professor says not to). Not including lab materials and school supplies. Oh and fun fact, I have to take extra classes compared to the regular student so that I keep my Visa valid. The minimum number of credits the international student must take is 12. Compare that to the 9 credit per semester classes that the regular student who doesn't have a major yet can take. And if you think one extra class is nothing, think again. Because on top of all that I still have to make time to get a job to keep up with living expenses 😒.
Now the whole purpose of going to college is to get a degree to get a job. To get that degree you need to do well on tests and exams. To do well on tests and exams you've gotta study. To study you need to have time to study. Where's the time?
By the way, note that I haven't even gotten to joining an actual program for said desired degree. The above commentary has just been on taking core classes. The $2000 was just for books and I didn't add the $5000 for tuition and the $1000 for mandatory insurance. The combined total comes to approximately $8000 for one semester of core classes at a two year college. So how about a four year college? Multiply the aforementioned total times 5 and you've got a nice fortune going on there.
Am I rich? Nope. Family rolling in millions? Nah. I'm middle class at best. So if richer international students are flashing their designer stuff around I won't bloody blame them for it. Because I sure as hell would do the same if I was in their position. Why? They get the privilege to do that if their parent's money isn't going down the drain on their education. These same rich kids are still getting the As and 4.0s and the reward for their hard work is the extra allowance. The 'rents are happy, the child is happy. A win-win in that situation.
The average middle-class international student? They don't get that privilege. The 'rents are actually struggling to get that tuition so the student tries to make up the living cost by working part-time legally in the foreign country. Whew.. I gotta end this comment quick.
All in all it's still shitty. So much of my aloofness and disdain when associating with other students (both fellow international and regular citizens) is not because I feel better than them or anything like that. It's more like I'm tired and to bothered with other important things to try socializing with you; because at the end of the day you all would want to head to the nearest bar/restaurant and I need to pay my rent and bills. My relationship with my classmates are limited to the college campus - classrooms and libraries and that's it.
I don't think I need to explain more. If I misunderstood you then I apologise and we're all good. Still I had to make this comment.
Their English proficiency isn’t even past Primary school levels and yet they’re getting the same tertiary level qualification
So what if they cant speak well. They are more proficient in basic academic, logical thinking, analysis and written English than the average locals who cant even spell and pass high schools.
Tr I’ve seen it firsthand and I agree. It’s understandable that they are shy and reluctant to be judged for their conversational English (just look at the prejudice in the comments; I’d be self-conscious myself). But if the quality of their written work is good enough for their subject choice, then I don’t see where the issue lies. Of course, it might pose a problem for certain essay-based subjects which demand extremely high levels of written proficiency (English Lang-Lit comes to mind, as well as history, law, Classics, and to a certain extent philosophy, etc). In the case of other disciplines, they just need to ensure that they double-check their spelling and grammar.
At our college football was cancelled since the 1990s!
Come to UNSW here in Sydney. It's like being back in China.
Music toooooo distracting from content,
The irritating music thru out this makes it tough to want to watch, otherwise it'd be great content
nice
Bro u hear them uic comentators
😂😂💪 idk what they saying but that shits 🔥
First year at university in York, Northen England.
We have a huge Chinese student population here, and at all our universities especially in major cities like London, Birmingham and Manchester.
But it’s going to cost you £18,000 a year to study here for a BA if you’re coming here from the UK.
Around the world = USA ? srsly?"!
At our university most of them are extremely seperated from the natives :(
I think its mostly because of ther lack in english and our native language here :/
In practical courses they refuse to say any word. Maybe cause they cant (caused by the language barrier) or they dont want to :/
And it often seems like, that they dont want to interact :( Maybe its the cultural difference ....
But this counts for france students as well ^^ They speak even worse english ^^
ok, generally speaking, I believe cultural barrier is probably a much more significant factor. The Chinese society, in general, is very homogenous, isolated and different from other societies. Overseas Chinese really have a difficult time to fit into the local culture, especially at the interpersonal level. remember this, 80 percent of the Chinese were living under absolute poverty 40 years ago, so for every family, and in their everyday life, truly understanding the western society and the values, and interacting with westerners is a very very recent and on-going phenomena.
In the classroom, that is totally another issue, the norm of a traditional Chinese classroom is entirely built upon restrictions and hierarchy. Chinese students are used to being silent and passively accepting what the teachers say.
Chinese students in general feel very lonely in western countries because of the significant cultural differences. When they have a large Chinese cohort surrounding them, they usually don't have to interact with the people outside the Chinese community.
@@rh5340 Good point there !
Mine too and I think it is because of racism ever since cafeteria ladies here started saying tofu for you too in a mocking tone alot of Chinese students here kept reserved. Especially since noone stood up for them. The whole room was quiet.
Arun Sar i don’t think it’s a special situation, where in the US at least, the (maybe sad or not) truth is Mexican people are mostly interacting in their group, same as Asian(Chinese) Americans, but they just happen to be live physically closer to the “mainstream” culture so they don’t view them as segregated as Chinese students.
FTech it’s not really cultural differences to not talk, we are just more shy and conservative before becoming familiar and extremely chatty :) the same happens when we’re meeting new Chinese friends...
Does anyone know what the music at the end is?
Thanks for doing this sort of reporting. You seem to be the primary, if not the only source of information regarding this topic.
This is excellent diversity is our strength. The whole world should send its people to study and learn in America and learn and exchange ideas
Are they advised not to date the locals?
they use chinese tinder
5%LowBattery it’s hard for them to date. But it’s easy to be dated. If u wanna talk to a Chinese chick, go ahead, don’t be shy
It's hard for international East Asian males to find dates I think.... the problem might be that they are not fluent with English and have close to zero understanding of the American culture whatsoever.
Hell, I'm an American myself and this nation has been a myth to me up until now.
pretty easy for the chicks, but if youre an fob guy tryin to get a local girl, your chances are ⩽ 0
5%LowBattery I mean Asians in general tend to just date Asians.
Isabella is the best reporter at Quartz
At Sydney Australia is about the same , they wants their money, however hates them with guts LoL
Nǐ hǎo! from Chinbourne Australia 😂
As someone from an hour away from U of I, she totally mispronounced Urbana. Also people who are local to the area can’t get into the engineering programs because it is filled with Chinese students. My cousin couldn’t get into the program until after going to community college because of that. I also lived in China for a year and one of my students wore a couple of U of I shirts to school which was crazy. 谢谢
lmao
@@davezimmer9053 I was laughing my ass off too. Community College is for stupid people. Why couldn't they just get into MIT? My ass has been laughed off already, but somehow I'm still laughing. I'm laughing right now too, if it wasn't clear. Laughter!
Can anyone explain how they even get through uni here? They seem to have VERY poor English yet are able to graduate. I speak a second language fluently but still would feel concerned about going to uni in that country because my vocabulary and grammar isn't as good as my English, so I'm confused as to how they manage it.
Woah look at the middle guys face at 1:11