Seat Time: New Kawasaki KRX 1000 ES & Can-Am X3 Turbo RR @ Sand Hollow, Utah
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Out at the HCR SXS Adventure Rally last week we decided to steal the “Viper Machine” KRX and X3 (with permission this time) to see how they do on the rocks. We give our initial impressions of each, chose a definite favorite - at least for Sand Hollow, and we showcase some of the Viper Machine accessories.
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I absolutely love my KRX 1000eS! It is built tough and climbs and crawls over rough terrain like a Gecko!
You guys have way too much fun in these videos, I love it!
What a great time to be into utvs, even the entry level machines are badass! Great video bros, drove a krx and those machines are smooth as butter! The clutch engagement is really nice
Only gonna keep getting better and better! Thanks for watching Mario
We went on a guided trip through the Rubicon Trail. The trail guide was in a KRK and it was the first time he had driven it. Said it was amazing and could handle obstacles better than most Jeeps. If they'd put out a super charged version i'd think hard about trading in my XRC.
Ya, they could use some extra ponies!
KRAFTWERKS makes a supercharger for it
Great looking rigs with some beautiful parts by Viper.
Good video guys. Makes me want to go buy viper parts for my TS4WD. Good education on other products
Quality stuff!
Another awesome Sand Hallow sand flick, Great job...
Thanks man!
Another great video with awesome machines. Can't wait for Royce's revenge video part 2. Hope Erick gets well soon!
Me and Eric both need to go back and do it! - Royce
X3 owner myself. We ride in the ozarks so its mostly tight wooded trails, near vertical hill climbs with 2-3 foot dug out rock ledges and jagged rock gardens. Seen alot ok KRX's out and have been very impressed with how they handle it all.
Both solid platforms, and both have little things that can be added to make them exceptional. Thanks for watching
Got a Tracker XTR 1000 with Shock Therapy help and I wouldn't trade it for the world! Amazing machine! I'm up here in Northern Utah. Maybe I'll be down at Sand Hollow when you guys are around to add this to the mix. I think you really need to add the Wildcat XX / Tracker XTR 1000 to your comparison.
We have ridden with some wildcat XX on our guided rides and we have been impressed!
Took my X3 to sand hollow last week and was blown away how good it was, but I dig the KRX 🤘🏼
We (mostly Ryan) was probably a bit harsh on the X3.. the comfort of the KRX was incredible. BUT, the bump steer on the x3 was surprisingly bad and it think that was the main complaint any of us had. 35’s didn’t help I’m sure. Probably an easy fix.. would be interested in experiencing some of the aftermarket options to fix that. The fact that both rocked the 35’s without any clutching or gearing was impressive
@@OffCamberInd 1000% it was the tire set up. My stock can am doesn't have an ounce of bump steer. The suspension is unreal.
Can am xrc what I want to buy next
I was there this week Sand Hollow is amazing. I was in my 2020 Wildcat XX did you guys notice all the machines for rent at Sand Hollow are KRX'S lol :))
They're really easy to drive, so it makes sense why they rent those! Glad you enjoyed the trip
Was thinking about a KRX for the next rig! Gotta have that Viper stuff on it
Wouldn’t regret it!
I run my 2020 X3 RR in wide fast Trails here in Michigan, average 50 to 70 mph through turns and whoops, theres no way that Kawi could hang. But hey, if you're an old fella that doesn't like too much excitement due to a heart condition, the Kawasaki is for you.
Steering feedback and harsh shocks were our main complaints with the X3.. I’m sure there are some aftermarket fixes. Power is excellent 👍🏼
And yes, the Kawasaki is super slow
@@OffCamberInd do you realize that there is a function through the display on that model called 'DPS' that allows you to change the steering feedback level? As far as "harsh shocks", the X3 is designed to run fast and hard through rough terrain, not a slow Sunday driver. I feel the shock setup on that unit is incredible in almost every condition. I've ripped through rolling trails, beat up Trails, sand dunes, and snow. I have yet to find anything that gave it a rough ride.
@@FITCLUBS101 I think these guys are just X3 haters. They actually said the Turbo S was the top dog! Like you said if you like Sunday driving the Kawi is the better option!!
@@JavierGarcia-je5ce to each their own. I'm definitely not a brand-loyal personality and will give props to any company's products that stand ahead without shiting on other people's products.
@@FITCLUBS101 The DPS changes the amount of assist from the power steering - not how much feedback you get from the suspension. I had a 2018 XRS and it rode choppy as hell compared to my 2016 Maverick that had CT Raceworx revalve and springs done. Wasn't until I did Shock Therapy that the X3 rode decently in AZ desert chop. It was a nice machine but it wasn't the be all end all of SxS's.
Cool stuff 🇺🇸
I've been in love with the krx since it's release but in Wisconsin we're limited to 65" decisions decisions....
I dont know what you need to do to get one, but do it. I know you will write me back here :)
I ended up w/ a decked out WC XX. There was a used, low mile KRX down the street from me but some our trails are 64". I may eventually get a push turbo but so far the factory 125hp triple is doing fine.
What sound system is mounted in the canam? Haven't ever seen the dual mounted speaker pods on each side like that
We will have to ask them next time we see them.. didn’t notice
You guys mentioned the sway bars being disconnected on those machines. Was ordering if you disconnect front sway bar on the rzr in previous videos or both? Hard to find any videos in depth on that and would be nice to see a good comparison video.
We don't run front sway bars on our rzr's , only rear 👍
Thanks for letting me know! Love the videos btw! You guys should do a video showing obstacles with and without.
How were the seats in the Krx? I’ve got a Krx and I have been looking for new seats. ( HSP and PRP) haven’t checked out Samson.
They’re all 3 very similar. I’d recommend heading to a shop that has demo seats set up. You’ll know right away which you like
Watch blown budget’s video. See the comparison. Think u guys are a little hard on the x3. It has an eco mode for the rocks. Enjoyed the video. Both great rigs.
Ive watched and ridden with them. Good dudes. There is a difference in driving experience between those two on their channel. At the end of the day, everyone has their preferences, and if I had to choose 1 of these 2 for all around, it’d be the x3. In rock only, KRX. I can’t handle going slow all the time. First thing I would upgrade on the x3 would be steering
If Viper had coating option and anodized their parts I would have bought everything they make for the KRX and my Pro XP. It s the only reason I havent bought anything of theirs.
They now are offering powder options. Give them a call
Where’s Vipers windshield from? I have a new cage on my KRX and need a new windshield and I like the way theirs fits.
Cage and windshield from Voodoorr.com
That kawasaki krx rules in the Appalachian mountains in tn/ ky/ nc/ga/ va and wv. Go watch videos of krx on 35's climbing like a mule up the steep rocky hills in Oliver springs,TN at windrock atv park.
Great machines
Great video. Both of those machines are sexy and made the obstacles look like flat ground LOL. I’d love to have that hcr kit on my krx
They both crawled up everything no problem. What impressed us is they both have stock clutching and gearing and crawled super effortlessly
@@OffCamberInd I’ve got a 2021 special edition krx stock other than 35” sticky zillas, goes everywhere and pulls fine in high or low. Honestly wonder if they made changes between 20 and 21 because it seems to pull better and harder than the 2020s I’ve seen and ridden with
@@marka1712could be due to the earlier models having the clutch weight issues.
@@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors maybe so. I still am running stock clutching and still having no issues thankfully. I also do a lot of rough rocky mountain trails and very little roads or constant throttle. It seems like from what I’ve seen a big portion if not most of the clutch issues come from ppl who ride a lot of roads or dirt trails where they carry consistent speed and throttle.
@@marka1712 that seems to be a common riding style that causes the issue. I will say that mine has seen a bunch of 30 mph road use as well as about the same steady speed when we ride in Arkansas with all the forest service roads.
Mine definitely has the the clutch “shifting” feeling. I will be replacing the weights soon. I just hope I haven’t damaged the face of the clutch sheaves.
What tires are on those cars looks like they were killing it for rock crawling do you recommend them or a different brand cheers from Idaho
These are our favorite tires for this terrain (at least that we've tried so far).. Maxxis Roxxzilla
Let us know when that whip mount becomes available. Freaking thing was awesome.
Super convenient!
Would have saved my whip mount on my Commander
So pretty stuff that adds weight and flashy stuff like whip mounts = awesome. And horsepower and speed = scary and bad. Yeah, based on those criteria, I get why these guys like the the Kawi and RZRs.
My 2020 Maverick X3 has the 120HP. It's plenty fast up to 88mph.!
Yup. The X3 has a good, powerful engine. This one is the Turbo RR and has 195hp. Very impressive for stock power
I know this is a older video, but in between buying one of these 2 machines now, to me the krx is way to loud in the cab and that’s a pretty big deal with my wife, my teryx4 had the same issue, the x3 seems a lot quieter unless you really getting on it, but not crazy about seating position, they say they pretty adjustable but don’t know, I drove a R and it was a rocket ship, don’t know what you would need a RR for but everyone says get the RE
I want that whip mount. Great idea I want two are they available yet???
Really cool, right??
They currently aren't producing them, but we will pass it along that there have been requests!
I put 35s on wider offset rims on my x3 and can 10000% confirm that the handling SUCKS ass compared to the stock 32s. On stocks I absolutely love it. 35s it’s a love hate relationship. Love the look, and clearance and stuff, but It does not inspire confidence to rally trails hard and fast. And the suspension seems to be harsher with the heavier wheels/tires.
Ya it really makes it not fun to drive.. but with the stock 30s, or a stock offset and 30-32s they rip!
The krx has the newest generation of “dynamix” shocks compared to the Polaris
Good to know. It was super smooth for stock shocks/springs
I think Yamaha has the best clutch engagement in the industry.
Gear drive trans definitely helps, but has its cons
Where can I find the can am shock tower brace?
Support@vipermachine.com
beards on point!
Thanks man! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🧔🏻
If you lived in utah moab area and you dont wanna have fun in the dunes in utah the krx would be cool. These guys are totally krx guys. But for normal people the canam can do everything and does everything good. I ride in idaho and have been riding utv’s for 14 years and ive seen 2 krx’s out in the wild and never seen one at st anthonys
They each have their place 👍🏼 and this is where we live. KRX at the dunes would suck.
At this time we owned 0 KRXs - for the record
I'm pretty sure you guys are the first people to ever claim a KRX is better than a X3.... to each his own I guess.
Depends on where you’re at. A KRX would be miserable at the dunes - for technical trails (which is where we spend majority of our time), hard to beat a KRX
Depends on what you're doing and where you're doing it. Dunes and long straights etc the canam has all the power and krx is underpowered. On really rocky trails and mountains the KRX suspension is better and it's built better and it just handles that kind of terrain better. You don't need all that power going through windy trails in spear head va for example, you'll never hit 60 except for a couple gravel roads getting from trail to trail.
@@Ryan-hp6xt I would have to 100% disagree with you on this one. Power isn't just about top speed. And to say the KRX is built better isn't also incorrect. Just because it's build with some heavier wall tubing in places doesn't really Ean much except for added weight. Don't get me wrong, the KRX is a nice machine, but it's not better than an X3
@@TheMiraldi when you consider the price gap between a krx 1000 and a top trim X3, I'd say the krx is the best choice for me. Even if the X3 is better, it's not $15k better.
@@Ryan-hp6xt well said
I am now a Viper fan.
Solid small business to support
You guys need to watch blown budget off road guys the can am smokes everybody.
Ya, Justin kills it. Good driver. All the machines are good when you build them up . They all need a little help from stock form in one way or another. Thanks for watching 🤘🏼
Love his videos !
Min 8:55 ...where in the heck can I get that? it's so cool...
It’s 1 of 1 and they don’t sell it, unfortunately!
Can am guessing just can't handle the krx takes them in the rocks and obstacles. Lol. Chill can am guys we know your fast on a dune! Lol
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I loved my KRX. I just couldn't get over the fuel gauge issues due to poor fuel tank design, the horribly undersized brakes, and the dead 0-10 for areas I can't load up for a hill climb.
Guess we haven’t noticed a fuel guage issue, but we don’t normally do long rides either. Brakes could certainly be better. The 0-10 can be improved with a tune a clicking, but still not quite like the turbo machines
@Off Camber Industries I've heard around 20% of people don't have fuel gauge issues but a quick google search, forums, or FB and you'll see it mentioned. I ride alone sometimes so it was scary for me. Kind of miss it but I like my X3 also. Trades off on both units for sure
What tires were on the krx??
Both vehicles have 35” Maxxis Roxxzilla
bring that Kawasaki to Wyoming and you’ll be leaving it on the side of a mountain walking back to your pick up. I’ve watched it happen the machine is still there so if you need Kawasaki parts come see me. It couldn’t take the two day beating the 2 can ams and the one Polaris made it back to the trailer no problem!
Come to Wyoming from Utah to ride
- said no one ever. 😜
What brand drone were you using for filming?
Skydio. It’s great when it works. It’s been pretty wonky since the last update we did
@@OffCamberInd starting to feel our pain with that thing? 😀
@@OffCamberInd I hear ya. Sometimes hard to beat the Mavic unfortunately.
@@DerangedOffRoad dude.. it's been frustrating lately. If we try for more than 5 minutes, we have to stop trying in fear that Ryan is going to curb stomp it! It's consistently gotten worse to use
@@OffCamberInd yep hopefully they get something figured out soon.
Was that the stock cage?
The KRX has an aftermarket Voodoo cage. X3 has a stock cage
Put in eco mode (candham) throttle peddle not as responsive
Makes sense. The throttle was jumpier, but not terrible. The main complaint was the steering feedback. I’m sure there’s an aftermarket fix for that
Second that on the can-am. Normal key and the eco mode calms it down tremendously. Will still light up and get a little cranky if you happen to jab the throttle but no near as bad as the sport key and sport mode.
Did u have in full lock , steering is ornery in that on super traction!! Ben moab 2xs never really used full locker other in pritchett!!
When is Viper going to release the retractable led flag whips?
They said probably never. Lol
@@OffCamberInd thank you. It as pretty cool!
Were can i find the viper account at instagram.
@vipermachine
So Kawasaki and Polaris guys prefer KRX ✔️
Put that X3 engine in the KRX and now we're talking!
sold my KRX and bought an X3 DS RR
Lots more power, that’s for sure!
@@OffCamberInd No perfect machine. I like the ride and build quality of the KRX better. Driven both extensively. Just like acceleration better.
6:53 lol
Something tells us you’re a Canam only guy…? 😝 it’s all good. They all have the things they’re great at
@Off Camber Industries yes by my pic.... i really want a krx tho they seem super strong.
They’re a lot of fun and well built, but like a turd in the sand… unless it’s boosted
Try this comparison in the dunes with paddles. X3 will win. I’m in the market for a 4 seater. Just sold my yxz. Don’t like the way the 4 seater x3 looks. Looking at that new rzr pro r.
Yup. X3 has almost double the HP. Kawi doesn’t win in the wide open, that’s for sure
Like they said in the video, depends on what kind of riding you are doing. I don't live anywhere near the dunes, I live on the east coast, so there's basically no where I will ever need that 200+ hp and the KRX would be better for me.
The KRX is not competitive with the X3 in any way. In our group the KRX is always in the rear.
EVERYONE agrees the x3 is significantly faster, especially in wide open terrain. 112 hp to 200 hp - it’s no surprise.
The X3 is inferior to the KRX in rocks or technical terrain - which we admittedly understand isn’t what everyone cares about in a side by side.
Both have their strengths and are purpose built
Have driven both - in the Ozarks and I can honestly say I’m always glad to bump back into my KRX. The X3 is fast but for the type of terrain we ride, I really feel the KRX is better suited.
The X3 also seems to make a lot more “racket” especially around 5-6k RPM.
Take this video with a grain of salt because Ryan is a die hard polaris owner. Ryan is always talking crap on can ams and Eric is a die hard kawasaki owner. This was the first video I've watched of them and after watching all of there videos they are great to be honest and I love em but when they are doing a review of these machines it's completely bias. TRUST ME. Go watch there other videos its kawasaki this polaris that.
Eric sold his Kawi and went with something all new - you’ll see it revealed tomorrow at 11am Mtn time. This isn’t meant to be an official review - it was just first impressions in vehicles we don’t have daily access to, have some fun, and to highlight our friend’s company. Thanks for watching and putting up with Ryan’s strong opinions 😂 can-am are great with a few aftermarket modifications (just like every make)
See ya on the trails!
@@OffCamberInd nice can't wait to see it. Will do. Yeah Ryan geezus 😆
It’s obvious that these guys have been riding the worst machine out there (Polaris) for years and they just can’t make themselves be honest about it. Both of these machines are FAR better than any Polaris ever made and they know it. Riding in a Polaris and then switching to a Can Am is like going from a golf cart to a rally car. I love my Can Am, but I also love the KRX. Kawasaki has done an incredible job with their first entry into the sport sxs segment. Wouldn’t take a Polaris if you gave it to me😀
Canam power was impressive, steering was horrible.
KRX was great crawling, comfortable, and handled well. Slow is the only complaint there. If they decide to add a Turbo and long travel, the rest of the OEMs need to watch out
KRX is the best with a turbo. Till then it’s not the best.
Yup. Turbo S still takes the trophy 😜
Any turbo S lover opinion, about can am vs anything is not valid 🙄
If the steering were fixed in that Canam, and probably a spring kit and/or shock work.. it’d be pretty phenomenal
@@OffCamberInd The Can am has 3 different Steering modes. did you guys test all 3 out?
🤣
Typical Polaris guys hating on can-am
Can am wins going fast, KRX wins going slow. They all have their pros and cons
@@OffCamberInd yea I was just messing around …. y’all did a good job comparing the two
People buy Polaris? 😂😂
Kawasaki has always been weak on horsepower. Great machines but not in power
Agree. Thanks for watchin
Man I wish the KRX didn’t suck ass
Viper add-on pieces are junk… plastic crap..pure junk silly trinket’s.
Plastic crap? Everything they make is all billet aluminum and 100% made in America. If you’re going to talk shit, at least know what you’re talking about