KRX vs KRX es - Is It Worth the Extra Cash?
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- čas přidán 5. 12. 2021
- If you've watched our channel, you know we love the KRX. It is one of the best machines on the market for a variety of reasons. Ride quality, fit and finish, performance, and value are all top notch. Since the ES was announced, we've wondered how it would perform against a KRX with a few grand in mods. We put Garretts KRX with shock work by Shock Therapy and aftermarket seats from HSP. These upgrades put the cost of Garretts KRX in the ballpark of the cost of a stock KRX. So how do they compare? Watch the video to find out!
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Why when we spend so much money on these machines do we have to spend more money to make them right.
I'm in the market of getting a new KRX 1000 and looking at there website from a year ago of thinking of getting one to now stock Krx's start at 23.2k and the ES is 25.7k. I haven't noticed any differences still. So I'm glad you guys did a review over the "overall looks and diffrences" between stock and ES. And I'm definnly will lean more towards stock. Crazy how the market has changed for basic pricing from couple years ago till now. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for doing this review. I’ve been wondering this since August when I bought my base model. I went back-and-forth and then wondered if I made a mistake because everybody raved about the ES model. This made me feel so much better about the choice I made at the time thank you.
Thanks for watching 👍 -Garrett
I bought a 21 es i put 28 hours on it (serviced at 20 hrs) then the engine blew up, the dealer had it from sept till now feb. new crate engine, the machine was never ran hard the dealer said it was a manufacturing defect. the style riding i do.. slow technical, rocky terrain, the es really shines, there are 10 other buggys usually, and this thing is the Cadillac of the woods. to do it over i would still buy what i bought. thanks for the honest review!
I went with the Trail Edition, couldn't be happier! I enjoy your channel, makes my top 5!
Thanks for watching 👍
Nice video. I see your almost at 20K subs…probably because I’ve been with you from the beginning and like/comment on every video! 😉
Couldn't have done it without you!
@@DerangedOffRoad Lol! 👍🏻
Yeah thanks Jeep man! -Garrett 😁
Great review and comparison guys. Exactly what I've been curious about. I have been saying that the eS isn't worth the extra $$$$ and you guys have confirmed that. Saved me from having to eat a lot of crow... lol Thanks for that! Probably not going to be a popular video with the eS guys when I post this on the KRX forum.
Probably but it’s the honest truth, I don’t see the extra 4K for it. I rather do my own upgrades and have something that handles better for a little less after upgrades. -Garrett
Good information. Thanks
Exactly what I was looking for. I was pretty much set on the krx just didn't know if I wanted to go straight for the es or if the base model was good enough. Thanks guys you just freed up 4gs to spend on making a base model my own now I just need to find one
No problem, exactly why we wanted to do this vid. A lot of people are in the same boat as you on which one to buy. -Garrett
KRX vs KRX es ?? . most important thing is to do a revision of the Primary clutch, which is faulty from the factory.
I have a 2021krxEs love it been a great machine I had been driving a trail model before the Es but I will be getting new seats for it I will agree the screen needed to be touchscreen love the vids keep it up.
Let’s us know what you think after new seats. -Garrett
Was there much of a difference suspension wise? I’m deciding between trail and ES too
If I go with the KRX it’ll definitely be the trail edition
Thank You, for the comparison and some great information on the Kawasaki KRX. I decided to buy the Kawa KRX base model after some basic research and tire kicking. I put down a deposit for a new 22 as soon as it's available. After I get some time on the machine I have plans to upgrade and upfit with accessories. Seats and 4 or 5 point belts are now at the top of my list (thank you). My feeling is that a shoulder/lap belt does not provide enough support and possibly safety in this type of equipment. I wish that Kawasaki would have incorporated that feature or factory option into this machine, I would spring the extra $$$ for that. This will be my first S x S and I am looking forward to many miles out running trails soon. Subscribed
Love the channel. Disagree with the take on the screen. I'm a software engineer and have worked with wake boats, wind turbines, to industrial grade farm irrigation tech, and touchscreen would be a nightmare in this thing. The toggle switches are considerably more durable/weather resistant, and can be cheaply replaced without replacing the whole screen. They will also operate without the need for special screen gloves. I think that Kawasaki planned on people spending $24k will take the time to learn how to use the screen.
I can see where you’re coming from, but owning a Pro XP with all the options including touch screen, we have seen zero issues and it an awesome setup. Also they place buttons in the steering wheel that make it way easy to use and they have been water tight. Either way as of now we own a new KRX4 es. It will be interesting to see as time goes on owing both and comparing. -Garrett
For the record, I’m a fan of the screen and a bigger fan of their new interactive display. Having a touch screen behind the steering wheel wouldn’t make much sense. -Joe
I got the eS with ST dual rate springs. I wouldn't hesitate again to go with the eS now. If you're on the fence about adding iQS and springs to your base KRX, go with the eS. The live valve shocks flow 10٪ more than the non-live valve - and iQS can't add that.
Yeah totally agree if you’re looking at adding the IQS to a stock machine buying the ES is the best option. I would be curious to see how your ES rides with just the springs being done. -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad Welcome to come out to TN/WV and give it a spin! I'd like to know how real whoops feel 😁
I ended buying a 2021 special edition because in March when I bought there just wasn’t a selection, if you wanted a sxs of any kind you bought one when you found it. That said, I love it and have had zero issues and will make it what I want it to be as I go. Thanks for the comparison and real world info.
Thanks for watching 👍-Garrett
touch screen? can't use that with gloves on, can't wipe the screen on the fly, and it's right behind the wheel. those steering buttons are great unless you're wearing winter gloves and are not ripping around in mud and snow like a huge majority of normal drivers are.i'll take big rocker switches any day.are they worth 4k? ,nope. probably even more up here in Canada.
I would take steering controls over those rocker switches any day. Touch screen for when you’re stopped and looking at stuff. Steering controls when you’re ripping. That’s the ideal setup when spending 4K more in my opinion. -Garrett
great video just a point of curiosity when you had shock therapy revalve your shocks did they install high/low speed clicker or still running stock low speed.
Correct, they used the stock adjusters so no high and low. -Garrett
Awesome machine. I’m gonna buy me 1 in June _July , just havnt made my mind up yet…. Wanting a 2022 model also
You will love it 👍-Garrett
Good comparison, I don't think the extra $4000 is worth it either, Buying the standard KRX and having your shocks tuned from the one size fits all to custom springs and valving to your driving style and weight is a better choice.
I used the extra money to get my shocks tuned by Shock Therapy and to buy a cage and PRP GT3 seats, like you said the seats make a big improvement too.
Agreed, ST suspension and seats are the way to go. -Garrett
Funny coincidence you guys uploaded this video as I was just looking at the exact model at a ride now powersports while i was there picking up an atv for my brother. I think the switches are definitely a weird setup. Overall stock vs stock machine if you're not a person who is going to modify it i think then the es may be a better choice. I know when i bought my RMAX i got the le because i wanted the electronic switch on the fly shocks. That being said they're not live valve so price difference is only 1200$ not 4k.
That’s the biggest difference, you have $1200 versus $4,000. I would go with electronic as well for that price. -Garrett
When did you get an RMax?
@@DerangedOffRoad check my latest upload lol one of you liked my Instagram post also the day i got it. 😂
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@@OdysseyOffroad that was me the other two are up in the clouds half the time. 😄 -Garrett
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Great video guys decided to buy ES model to shift suspension on the fly and have a better ride quality and experience with KECS system , new 7 inch screen allows for front and rear OEM cameras plug and play to be installed, 1 question what is the purpose of the whole behind the driver seat and can that be covered. Thanks
Are we talking about the one where you can see the ground through it?
@@DerangedOffRoad yes
No reason for it at all other then to let dust in. The dust kit does cover that up and it helps. -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad thanks
River Rat just got an ES in and they're priced at $26,899. Seemed a little high to me, especially since you were saying retail is $24,399. Thoughts?
It’s probably a supply issue that is driving the cost up. On the Kawasaki website the MSRP is still $24,399. If I had to pay 6k more for it, it would be a complete no for me. -Garrett
The opportunity to gouge is rampid, never sleep on a good crisis and scamdemic. Capitalism lol
So you want to stick your hands through a steering wheel while you’re driving to touch the screen?
I have a 2021 Es and my springs are sagged out as I have added extra weight to the machine with accessories. Shock Therapy does not have springs for the Es but they told me that they have plans to have some in the future. I don't know if I would buy springs from Bandit as I am not familiar with them. What I have found with my machine is when riding in dusty conditions which is not just a Es model condition that the stock paper and RC2 paper air filter will indeed let dust pass through them into the engine. Many months ago I modified and adapted a triple element UNI Foam Air Filter to work in my car and after months of testing I have not had any dust pass through the filter into the engine. Problem solved for me! Long time mechanic here. Beware! Just thought I would pass it on.
Good info! -Garrett
When you say springs on the es model do you mean tender springs only or the whole springs
All of them 👍
The es also includes roof and front bumper not sure if there is anything else
That is correct, we probably should have included that as well. We just figured most would be buying it for the electronic suspension. -Garrett
FYI: Not touch screen because many people wear gloves. Display Switch works 100% 2. If using an aftermarket removable steering wheel, the live valve switch is easier. 3. Old KRX has tuned suspension for its setup with proper tire psi. etc. We had RZR PRO XP with Fox live valve and now KRX and like the suspension adjustments on the fly. Top rated aftermarket seats vs cheap OEM ? Take base model and es off the dealer showroom and test... too many variables. Thanks for comparing
We have bought a new krx4 with live valve so we will have more information on this topic in due time since we have one of each now.
Ok guys, I like the comparison. But you are missing a couple things. The stock KRX dosent come with a Front Bumper at $179.95. And the KQR Sport roof at $309.95. SO, technically your paying $3500 for the suspension and guage cluster. Yes, still pricey. But just wanted to throw that out there.
That's true, but a bumper and roof wouldn't be the deciding factor between the two for me.
-Dave
Yeah I know we left those two items out because we’re focusing on the shock setup more. Great points to bring up though because they do add up on the cost. -Garrett
Front and rear bumper. Roof. Winch. Nerf bars
If you could get 24es or 24 trail at same price which would u buy
24 trail. It comes with a lot of extra options.
@@DerangedOffRoad i picked up the 24 trail
Are you running HSP or PRP seats?
They are HSP
Like the feedback
The price between your upgraded KRX and an eS is not that big. I like how you point out what a person CAN do with a stock KRX but like you mentioned, it'd been better to compare a stock machine to the eS. I get it though. I have the eS because I HATE money. Sure I could have set up a stock KRX to be better but I wanted the color screen and on the fly suspension shifting.
Whether one buys a stock KRX or the eS is of no importance as BOTH WILL eventually be upgraded. Hell, we ALL upgrade our shocks to Shock Therapy or others do we not? Even the top of the line Popo Turbo S's and Pro XP owners do. It's crazy, but we all do. So what potential buyers ought to be thinking about is upgrading the eS seats and springs as you did and then compare the price difference between the two. Will the eS be THAT much better and worth the 4 grand? Possibly. Just to know you have the top of the line in and of itself is noteworthy.
I feel ya on the touchscreen, or lack thereof. But this will keep me from scratching the screen to high heaven. And holy moly, I can barely touch anything on screens when bouncing around. The big rockers are big for a reason. Easy to reach.
Really though, riding for only an hour for a review is doing a disservice to yourselves and your viewers. I'm coming from a 2016 XP 1000 n.a. but upgraded with all the trimmings and at first I wasn't sure I liked the new KRX. Plus I was in my break in period so that made things worse not being able to push some serious skinny pedal, but the ride got better by the 3 hour mark and I'll leave my old machine to the wayside in favor of this for sure. I was so in-tune and familiar with my old ride that it takes awhile to recognize the subtle nuances of a different machine. Sort of like comparing high end speakers and even headphones. You simply need more time to allow your brain to notice the difference.
Thanks for the review though as you show potential buyers they needn't go with the eS to have the best as going base model and tossing a few bucks at it can make it equal or potentially surpass the top of the line for $4000 or less. Just saying, wish you had a bit more time to become familiar with the new eS and then do a comparison.
I'll add that in a 4 hour ride I played with my settings about a Bizillion times. And as you say, there is a noticeable difference so it's not just money wasted on a gimmick. I see a G-out coming up out of nowhere and it's so easy to switch the dial to firm and then right back afterward. Worth the upgrade for sure for my taste.
Sorry, one more addition. The clanking whilst riding is due to the shock separator hitting the crossovers. There's a dude on ebay selling cushions for that and mine should be arriving soon. Just like Shock Therapy has the orange o-rings for their silent crossovers, but these are like a flat profile rubber ring vs an o-ring. Yes, that clanking drives me nuts. I'm guessing the lower tier KRX's don't do this?
You make a lot of great points in your comments. We had the machine for a few hours and I have plenty of seat time in my KRX at this point. More seat time in the ES would not change my opinion. With that being said if I had a stock one like we planned originally it could have been a completely different outcome. As far as the controls it’s not as much about the touch screen but more about the funky rockers. Spending 4K more Kawasaki needed to add those to the steering wheel for really easy access. Steering controls are the best way to go for a electronic setup like our Pro has. Also you’re right about suspension work in everything you get these days. Overall besides spending more money you can’t go wrong with either model. -Garrett
They do it as well, you can’t run from it 😄. -Garrett
We don’t believe it’s a gimmick at all. We bought the Pro ultimate to have the electronic setup. -Garrett
What difference does it make if the suspension is going to sag 3 inches after a while.
You will feel your rear hit and drag all day long at high speed bumps and so on.
@@DerangedOffRoad I mean why spend the money for the electronic shocks when they haven't addressed the issue with the springs sagging.
After owning both, being able to adjust on the fly is well worth the money.
Agreed...the Kawi's execution in the electronics department is weak at best and does not appear to be user friendly for the driver. I do wish the KRX a part of the 4-seater world.....
Right amount of money, anything is possible
I am looking at getting a krx.
Is there anything you would like to know? -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad i would use for trail riding, and when I do gold panning in the mountains. just can't decide on which KRX 1000 TO GO WITH.
I live in Idaho, and go to Colorado as well.
Honestly either one works really well off the dealer floor when it comes to suspension. If money is not an issue at all then the adjustability is nice on the ES for suspension needs. Otherwise the standard KRX is great for a lot less money and will work really well for what you need. -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad I agree not impressed with es model. was looking at the standard, and trail edition.
If the person buying can't disassemble and reassemble their own mechiene the cost would even up a bit more 🇺🇸
That’s a great point. 👍
I bought my bike from Jason. He was great
Yep we have worked with him for a bit now.
If the wife doesn’t want to ride it the KRX with you, you need a new wife🤣😂😂
This is funny because in all the video you can clearly see that the ES is way more planted and way smoother then the regular model like In every situation it’s so clear and you can tell you guys put some effort into editing the side by side comparison of both machines. LoL. I own the ES and believe me it’s way worth it and the only people who I’ve ever heard say it’s not worth it are the people who own the standard model and put lots of money into aftermarket suspension set ups lol but the ES is way better trust me.
Oh yes, special EdiTiNg! 😂 maybe it’s just the fact that the springs are sagged out on the the ES already. Honestly though from experience with both it doesn’t handle better but it’s nice to adjust on the fly. Spending $1800 on a new springs and valving makes the car ride way better then the stock ES. The ES needs at least new springs as well but then again we should trust you.
What’s the cost for Krx es
$24,399 MSRP
How much the techs get at Rocky Mountain Atv in st George
No clue what they're paid.
@@DerangedOffRoad you live in st George
Yep
As of 2023, the cost difference between the stock and eS models are only $2500. Also, a proper review would have been to include a truly stock KRX in the mix; it's not really fair to include the $1800 shock kit. I was going to do that to mine several times and every time I wanted to, it was going to take several MONTHS to get it done, so I never did. So a proper scientific test requires a Control, which you guys didn't have.
Well 2023 prices don’t matter because this vid was done a bit back. As far as the Shock Therapy goes, yes it rides better but this was more about the adjustment on the fly and if it was worth it. My guess, most people who buy the ES will still get at least new springs put on. Either way at the time of this vid it wasn’t worth the extra cost. Now we own a ES four seater and it’s been great.
I'll take the Wildcat over both of these
Concerning your comment about the screen……touch screen ??? Really .. try your touch screen with your gloves on !!!! Or try your touch screen with a dirty /muddy screen… or a wet screen. Do you have success using you touchscreen phone after you drop in the toilet? Cry baby comments.You are over rated….also looks like you all lack some driving abilities when you were climbing a amateur hill.. Glad the guy was at the top of the hill to guide you…..
Oh, okay Norman😂😂🤩. You posted this pretty late at night. I hope you didn't miss the school bus this morning.
-Dave
@@DerangedOffRoad I thing that Norman has some issues. If he rides I hope they are not with him on the trail. I would hate to run into him:):)
🤪🤪🤣🤣🤪 -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad is that all you got????? About as worthy as your reviews!!!!!
@@DerangedOffRoad good laugh… Dave took it hard!!!!