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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • On the day The Duke (The Steam Engine 71000) was to come to Plymouth, This HST pulled in from Cornwall and it didn't sound to Great...

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  • @vorn29
    @vorn29 Před 8 lety +21

    The insult of referring to an HST as a "thing".

    • @adamoneale4396
      @adamoneale4396 Před 11 měsíci

      It's not a steam loco. It's just a thing

  • @ukloco
    @ukloco Před 15 lety +8

    The two locomotives at each end are connected to each other through the lighting circuits of the carrages, so they're working in "multiple" - both locos know what each other is doing in effect.
    The same applies to any kind of locomotives working top and tail or double headed, and even DMU's like sprinters working in multiple.

  • @Longs81
    @Longs81 Před 10 lety +7

    Ah private railways... the "We don't own the train we just lease it so we'll rag the absolute fuck out of it until it blows up and the wheels fall off" mentality.

    • @riverhuntingdon6659
      @riverhuntingdon6659 Před 8 lety +1

      Oh definately. Sounded sick at the front alright, siezed or duff turbocharger, but the railway company's response was "oh let's paint it a different colour that'll fix it" Our old EMUs and DEMUs were thus treated by Connex among others on the former Southern Region.

  • @UKTrainMan
    @UKTrainMan Před 16 lety +9

    Holy Smokes Batman, that MTU engine is clagging the station out! Great video 5 stars and favourites from me!

    • @markcf83
      @markcf83 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's not an MTU. It's a Valenta Paxman......

  • @type2thrash
    @type2thrash Před 16 lety +2

    That has got to be a serious contender for "Carry on clagging 3"!!!!!

  • @1madaboutguitar
    @1madaboutguitar Před 15 lety +6

    Im impressed that they could get to that speed with just 1

  • @RailsimProductions
    @RailsimProductions Před 14 lety +2

    Ooh, I can almost feel it. What a great feeling to be covered in nice warm clag.

  • @type2thrash
    @type2thrash Před 16 lety +1

    That is one CLAGGY HST!!

  • @tomgauntlestrange
    @tomgauntlestrange Před 5 lety +1

    another way to look at is that as messed up as the locomotive is it manages to pull out the station. that's the power of old tech for you. even banjacked it can still work reasonablly well.

  • @TopGearrules
    @TopGearrules Před 11 lety +1

    Enter Jeremy Clarkson reference... 'I've got cancer now!'

  • @class313
    @class313 Před 17 lety +2

    GNER hsts still look like they are working in the 80s with the current interiors!

  • @tenny_tenten
    @tenny_tenten Před 3 lety +1

    Ah yes, nostalgia

  • @railandmodel
    @railandmodel Před 16 lety +8

    Did it make it to where it was going??Nice bit of clag!!I just love Hst's, 1970's master pieces.Was on one coming back from Edinburgh,had my hand held gps on & clocked it at 130MPH!!on the race track north of York.Magic stuff!!

  • @liamunlimited9478
    @liamunlimited9478 Před 7 lety +3

    Less like a steam train more like a smoke train 😂

  • @TheEnglishTrainSpotter2021

    Fresh smoke for first class

  • @sparky30368
    @sparky30368 Před 14 lety +4

    I'm not surpised it clags loads considering the amount of miles an HST has to do..
    Anyone know which HST number has the highest mileage..?

    • @Danse_Macabre_125
      @Danse_Macabre_125 Před 11 měsíci

      Hmm... probably 43003 considering it's age, or maybe some of the Eastern Region ones that are now rotting in Ely

  • @sparky30368
    @sparky30368 Před 10 lety +1

    Thats the best HST clag i've seen

  • @BTCRAILFILMS
    @BTCRAILFILMS Před 14 lety

    steam to diesil, now diesil to steam...ahhh good to be back steamys!!

  • @Videogame-Matt
    @Videogame-Matt Před 6 lety +3

    Still better emissions then a VW

  • @shinra18
    @shinra18 Před 16 lety

    *nerd* I like to think our railways are ever so slightly more badass than Europe's with us using stuff like that. :P

  • @bigglessy
    @bigglessy Před 12 lety

    "honey, when did we board a steam train?"
    "we didn't..."

  • @jmlouis
    @jmlouis Před 15 lety

    As a qualified engineer and studying the footage closely, I can confidently state that in my professional opinion that the front power car is buggered, shafted and most probably as much use on that train as kick in the nuts would be of use to the average bloke in the street.

  • @laurenlawson2011
    @laurenlawson2011 Před 12 lety

    Surely, people would see the smoke go past the window and think 'hang on, somethings not right'?

  • @metadyneman
    @metadyneman Před 16 lety

    The Valentas were life expired for front line use and no matter how much people moan it could have been worse, we could have seen wholesale scrapping of HST's. I have to give hats off to First Great western in having the country's first fully fledged preserved heritage fleet with new engines in old locos.. If only we had done that with all our other locos we would not be looking to Canada or elsewhere to buy locos but would be enjoying re engined British built locos.. ho hum!

  • @tom201090
    @tom201090 Před 13 lety

    must be a train full of steam enthusiasts...and a loco passionate about steam as well.

  • @S6Video
    @S6Video Před 12 lety +1

    BEAST!!!

  • @geoffreyhansen9962
    @geoffreyhansen9962 Před 8 měsíci

    As a child I used to think that the Australian XPT was a steam train because of all of the smoke that came out of it.

  • @NJPurling
    @NJPurling Před 14 lety +1

    It looked like the front unit was throwing out unburnt fuel, or not running on all cylinders. I don't know diesel engines, but whoever thought that was fit for service was wrong.

  • @GinoDuke
    @GinoDuke Před 2 lety

    The turbos in that rear power car are whistling their hearts out trying to push the lot

    • @louisburland5346
      @louisburland5346 Před 2 lety +1

      normal sound, hst can happily run on a single power car however during normal use 1 drives the other supplies ancillaries aka air compressors and electric generation services to passenger cars they can still run close to 125 on single power car just loose a lot of acceleration due to the additional load.
      i used to work on the paxman in the navy and the 125 overhauls in devonport dockyard a lot of naval vessels used valentas of varying cylinder numbers and the swiftsure-trafalgar subs ran paxman venturas basically v18 without the blower/

  • @class37thrash
    @class37thrash Před 14 lety

    driver: oi bill whats that smoke comein out are fgw hst
    co driver: thats not smoke that me smokeing

  • @bobatporty
    @bobatporty Před 15 lety +1

    I had a turbo fail on a class 47 on a test run from crewe works to craven arms. Lots of smoke but no go and had to assisted back to crewe.

  • @boeingnerd77
    @boeingnerd77 Před 15 lety

    it really was the duke steaming out

  • @tnewton1988
    @tnewton1988 Před 14 lety

    I love the guy in the background " He never makes it fucking bearing has gone"

  • @Gauge1channel
    @Gauge1channel Před 15 lety

    Thats what i call a bloody sea gull killer dose the job

  • @MDFusionVideo
    @MDFusionVideo Před 17 lety

    not all MTU's mate, EMT are giving MML VP185's and the MTU is going to extend their life more than ten years, and after that maybe a new engine. the HST never gets old, and i have never seen a vlaenta like that, so it shows that it is just a few going west, though this is awesome! wish i had seen that one

  • @type2thrash
    @type2thrash Před 16 lety

    A HST Power car doing its Western Prince impresion!!

  • @colwynkid
    @colwynkid Před 15 lety

    HST's are like bog units with atitude. By the time they arrived on the North Wales coast, they were in a feckin heap. I miss the days of the 80's when you didn't know if it was a 45 or 46 in the distance. The noise of a 37, the vibrations from a 40 as we stick our faces upto the plastic door that stops you touching the engine. Many heads with back pacs full of sambos, books of trains & of course, a pen & paper. "was that 47555 flying past a 72mph"? I miss that shit!

  • @TheHairybaz
    @TheHairybaz Před 14 lety

    black jock must have just given it a service

  • @matthewrattigan
    @matthewrattigan Před 16 lety +1

    No the Mirrlees were fitted in the late 80's / early 90's to only 4 powercars, of which were put back to Valentas later on anyway. The MTU is a complete different and awful sounding engine that most train companies and now having fitted to their power cars

  • @ukloco
    @ukloco Před 15 lety

    They're both communicating to each other with computer equipment, so the computers in each end know what the driver is asking it to do. For example, if the driver asks for 50% throttle, the two loco's will communicate with each other to provide 25% power on each loco.
    It's hard to explain. The best way to imagine it, is a HST in full formation should be considered "one train" - much like a Sprinter or Pacer is "one train" even though it is 2 or 3 cars with seperate engines.

    • @louisburland5346
      @louisburland5346 Před 2 lety

      actually its power setting the trailing car just matches the input of the prime mover it doesnt split power it matches power it u diel in lets say 1500rpg notch 2 on prime engine the bogy will match it the power isnt divided its doubled

    • @deathbyteacup
      @deathbyteacup Před 2 lety

      @@louisburland5346 That is semantics. 50% of the demand for whatever full power is, is split 25% between each loco. Be that "double" or "half," it's the same thing essentially.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Před 11 měsíci

      I can hardly imagine it's that complex, but I'm not well versed in all of the various British control schemes.
      In the states, it's much more predictable with every MUd engine responding to the throttle input with no "splitting" of power. If the throttle is in notch 7, every locomotive will be in that power setting unless there is some knockdown fault like overheating (which will only affect the local locomotive). Digital communication between units is often limited to informational purposes on the 27 pin cable.

  • @24nov67
    @24nov67 Před 13 lety

    the engine has been sitting idling for a long time and will probably clear once the engine is running at full speed. the napier deltic engine in the class 55 used to do the same thing.

  • @TheHairybaz
    @TheHairybaz Před 13 lety

    another class service from the blackman

  • @alanjukes336
    @alanjukes336 Před 11 lety +1

    I mourn the demise of the paxman valenta.

  • @Martindyna
    @Martindyna Před 10 lety +1

    The driver should have shut that engine down - it couldn't have felt / sounded right & the lack of acceleration must have been evident.
    Reconsidering notice that the driver is only proceeding at low power judging by the back engine sound, presumably to reduce the amount of smoke coming from the faulty engine.

  • @MrGrumpygit488
    @MrGrumpygit488 Před 9 lety +4

    Must have been a naff turbo because you can't hear it screaming

    • @louisburland5346
      @louisburland5346 Před 2 lety

      not a naff turbo the scream is the valentta vp185 its their thing
      thats why there called screaming valentas

  • @FlightProgramAborted
    @FlightProgramAborted Před 6 měsíci

    That one just wasnt firing on all cylinders, requires routine maintenance Valenta at the back

  • @456013matt
    @456013matt Před 15 lety

    5 Down means it was running 5 minutes behind it's schedule.

  • @GreatWestern175
    @GreatWestern175 Před 16 lety

    It sounded like the diesel had crack stuffed in its engines lol! thats my funniest thought of why its so smokey!

  • @MrTinyUK
    @MrTinyUK Před 12 lety

    I seem to remember one the arguments FOR getting rid of steam, was less pollution. Ha ha ha.

  • @ECML119
    @ECML119 Před 16 lety

    "It's" = "It is" or "It has"
    Great video, cheers mate.

  • @Penfold101
    @Penfold101 Před měsícem

    This must be video number two on CZcams…

  • @EdwardPercyScruff
    @EdwardPercyScruff Před 13 lety

    It's a diesel-outline steam engine instead of a steam-outline diesel!

  • @456013matt
    @456013matt Před 15 lety

    FMJ! what a BEAST!

  • @inspiringengineer
    @inspiringengineer Před 3 lety

    It's nucking fackkered! :D :D :D

  • @boeingnerd77
    @boeingnerd77 Před 15 lety

    that was why the midland mainline caught on fire a few years ago

  • @456013matt
    @456013matt Před 15 lety

    well, it is a bit of a struggle, a Paddington service with 1 power car (when they were Brand new) ended up being 5 down at Slough once because they can't get the acceleration with one Power car.

  • @Piltdownpaul
    @Piltdownpaul Před 14 lety

    a ship engine in a locomotive-no wonder they snapped the exhausts with the vibration.

  • @pauleyd80
    @pauleyd80 Před 17 lety

    If this isn't justification for replacing the valentas, I don't know what is!! Sure the valenta's sound good, I'll miss them, but they've definately had their day now!!

  • @joshrblx6524
    @joshrblx6524 Před 7 lety +1

    AAAAH THE CLAG THE CLAG IT NEEDS A REPAIR SO MUCH CLAG!!!!

  • @kartkidchun
    @kartkidchun Před 14 lety

    Now the second power car sounded much more like a HST should sound. The first well, didn't.

  • @Diddy1875
    @Diddy1875 Před 15 lety

    The oil is low it looks like there is going to be a service on this train soon.
    Thanks
    Dave

  • @NeoFalcon69
    @NeoFalcon69 Před 11 lety

    the train forgot it wasn't a stream train.

  • @MrDavros1234
    @MrDavros1234 Před 13 lety

    As Del Boy would have said to the cameraman - "Brace yourself Rodney!!!"

  • @Benjy5997
    @Benjy5997 Před 16 lety

    What i think is impressive is that the engine waited till getting to Paddington before failing. Like it knew it was its last trip and it wanted to perform one final time.
    mac550 SHUT UP your talking rubbish go away.
    These trains are fantastic, nd when there gone i for one will be sad to see them leave. 30/40 years of service.

  • @zodiotekgaming
    @zodiotekgaming Před 8 lety +1

    That looked to me, like the very early stages, of the engine running away

    • @Sephy69
      @Sephy69 Před 7 lety +4

      notice the lack of the turbo scream...turbo is deffo fucked

  • @Greenman5582
    @Greenman5582 Před 13 lety

    He forgot to blow the whistle LOL

  • @JBOwl4life
    @JBOwl4life Před 14 lety

    @class313
    Actually the one at the front was an MTU
    The one at the back was a Paxman.

  • @MarkAviation
    @MarkAviation Před 12 lety

    I never knew that HST's were steam trains

  • @ralph5407
    @ralph5407 Před 15 lety

    You an expert mechanic then to diagnose the problem just from a short bit of video....

  • @wolfviperepicdude
    @wolfviperepicdude Před 11 lety

    it may be a blown turbo *whit's for the engin in the back* yep the front engin has a blown turbo

  • @cmeonthemove
    @cmeonthemove Před 17 lety

    Check out the oil running down the side from the exhausts too!

  • @456013matt
    @456013matt Před 15 lety

    they're limited to 110 MPH with one power car for safety reasons.

  • @clagfest
    @clagfest Před 15 lety

    ;O Breaking the Twat ban I see........

  • @JBTEvans
    @JBTEvans Před 17 lety

    Good news I have a tripod and going to the Dean Forest Railway tomorrow where they have Steam and a DMU running... loads of videos will be uploaded Monday morning!

  • @HSTHoward
    @HSTHoward Před 17 lety

    wow my lordz that is lovely true valenta

  • @IrishRail123
    @IrishRail123 Před 15 lety

    i can smell it down here! mmm lol

  • @Caleb9C1
    @Caleb9C1 Před 14 lety

    P A X M A N - V A L E N T A

  • @stronguy20
    @stronguy20 Před 13 lety

    HST is a tax in Canada called, "Harmonized Sales Tax."

  • @tgm9991
    @tgm9991 Před 13 lety

    BLOODY HOLLY HELLFIRE!!!!

  • @AllianceB95
    @AllianceB95 Před 14 lety

    @teletubbykiller23
    And also the MTU 12V956TB10 has bin a realy reliable engine for 30 years (the MTU brother of the valenta soundwise aswell) That engine was used in the BR 218 Rabbits!

  • @Cpr1234
    @Cpr1234 Před 6 lety

    Plot Twist: this was the steam train that went to plymouth and not 71000

  • @adamswindells1
    @adamswindells1 Před 13 lety

    Why all you guys saying it needs oil? It looks more like its burning oil. But yeah she sounds rough. Poor thing. It's probably been scrapped now :(

  • @class313
    @class313 Před 17 lety

    GNER can be just as bad as fGW! Late trains are usually the norm and don't get me started on the crappy Gantry the ECML uses. FCC (Atleast on the Thameslink side) are doing a good job, refurbishing the 319s and doing up the stations. Also, on this route late trains cant be helped so you cant blame the TOC for that.

  • @peterdeutscher1442
    @peterdeutscher1442 Před 7 lety

    What the hell fully smoke all over place!!!

  • @1ns4ne1d10t
    @1ns4ne1d10t Před 14 lety

    @teletubbykiller23 I'm not surprised, they have 8 turbo's on a V16 engine instead of a V12 with 1 turbocharger, the MTU has 8 turbo's to go, thats 1 for every 2 cylinders. I have never been a fan of this 'modern refinement' ever since they started putting small turbo's in 1.2 petrol engines & scrapping the conventional 1.4/1.6. 1. It has a turbo to break 2. The engine seems too small for the increased combustion they are putting refinement over reliability. The headgaskets will break soon.

  • @irelandbloke
    @irelandbloke Před 11 lety

    My VW golf does the same thing, so changing the aspect ratio should fix it ?.... Sweet lol

  • @rubadux
    @rubadux Před 13 lety

    @tornadof3raf after banning smoking in all stations, they had to make up for all the missing pollution somehow.

  • @emperorgrant
    @emperorgrant Před 14 lety

    @Victorialine67 the front isan MTU, the back is a valenta.

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 Před 12 lety +1

    The rear engine is fine, couldn't they have just shut the front down and made do with a poultry 2200-odd hp?

  • @KWVRMAD
    @KWVRMAD Před 14 lety

    The Front Was A Valenta The Back Was MTU or maybe other way round!

  • @badassfcuk
    @badassfcuk Před 15 lety

    looks like the piston rings have gone!

  • @dangerousandy
    @dangerousandy Před 11 lety +1

    They're just not the same without the Valenta :(

  • @Kromaatikse
    @Kromaatikse Před 14 lety

    @teletubbykiller23 At the very least the turbo's gone. With that in mind, quite possibly bits of turbo are stuck inside the engine.

  • @daniel50035
    @daniel50035 Před 14 lety

    @sparky30368 ive read that it is 43008 wich now works for east coast

  • @sim2lew
    @sim2lew Před 15 lety

    I think it wanted a piece of the action!

  • @class313
    @class313 Před 14 lety

    @JBOwl4life In the above video, they are both Valentas

  • @boleamj
    @boleamj Před 15 lety

    lol That´s hilarious! Great vid men

  • @Tonysrailvideos
    @Tonysrailvideos Před 17 lety

    Cannot agree with anyone saying that a Valenta in that condition is better than an MTU. From an enthusiast point of view it may be better but from a real world point of you there is nothing wrong with an MTU. Sorry but what is the alternative, a 175/185/220??

  • @darrowby1972
    @darrowby1972 Před 15 lety

    Testimony to why Alison Steadman was thrown out of FGW, her policy of puntuality over reliabilty - WHATEVER THE COST"

  • @ReubenAshwell
    @ReubenAshwell Před 8 lety

    I bet the power car was smoking crack heroine. :D