Each unit of these locos has a Kharkov 10-cylinder (opposed) two-stroke 10D100 engine that produces 2206kw (2920bhp) at 850rpm. Cabbed units weigh 138t (the uncabbed slightly less) producing 86000lbs of tractive effort. They have no silencers, hence the volume and the nickname 'Rolling Earthquakes'. The Kharkov two-stroke engine is said to be a copy of the Fairbanks-Morse units in US. Although unsuccessful in the US, they seem to have worked well in Russia and most of it's surrounding countries.
Вот она, мощь русских локомотивов!!! Огромный респект автору! Отлично снято. И не смотря на такое количество дыма, это в несколько раз экологичнее, чем перевезти тот же груз, только фурами. Эта техника просто радует глаз! Железная дорога - не только предприятие, это призвание и состояние души. Mein Herz schlägt für Metall
"старый" Кузнецовский перевал, подъём 22 тысячных, поезд судя по всему "сборный" весом около 3600 тонн, при весе 4700т в голове ещё одна "трёшка" стоит. но видео не передаёт всего ощущения при нахождении в кабине, а порой и в дизельном.
Making those engines work aren't they. If I had to guess, either the engines are not very well maintained, or are being worked at the upper end of their ability for prolonged periods.
I'll say that they have a problem when making the mix (Air and diesel) and they are adding more diesel than Air, but yeah what you said, that Happens because of the Lack of maintenance (basically Look how dirty are the Wagons, that reveals an absolute Lack of maintenance)
Видео ОТЛИЧНОЕ!!! ПОБОЛЬШЕ БЫ ТАКИХ!!! ТЕПЛОВОЗ МОЩЬ,ОНИ ДЛЯ ТОГО И СОЗДАНЫ ТЯГАТЬ СВЕРХТЯЖЕЛЫЕ ГРУЗЫ НА ДАЛЬНИЯ РАССТОЯНИЯ ТАМ, ГДЕ ДРУГИМ ЭТО НЕ ПОД СИЛУ И НЕТ ВОЗМОЖНОСТИ!!!
What a formidable consist! I wonder what could be done to clean up the exhaust gases: Not so good from an enthusiasts viewpoint but the engineering challenge is there!
Well, consider each car about 65 tons (oil tanks and freezers) and do not forget the track is quite sloped and with sharp curves - there two beasts must work on full throttle to pull this train up the hill. It is the same in the States, there usually are three to six locos operating interstate cargo trains as well.
This smoke is probably not all due to poor injector maintenance. In tunnels oxygen gets depleted quickly and this results in partial burning of fuel. Hence the smoke. This problem was encountered in the USA, too. The response in the age of steam was the cab-forward locomotive type, which at least allowed the crew to get the first and best of the air. Then came the "tunnel-motor" diesels, which picked up the more oxygenated air at rail level instead of the hot air at the top of the tunnel. Russia sucks, Houston Railfan? Take a look at some old Southern Pacific photographs.
John Hine Your explanation is wrong though. It takes a hell of a lot of oxygen deficiency to partially burn fuel - indeed, modern engines recirculate a large amount of exhaust gas into the air intake to reduce emissions. It also doesn't explain the fact that they are still smoking like a bitch when it is drawing all the clean air in the world after it has left the tunnel. So yeah, your explanation is incorrect. The smoke is from a variety of reasons. It's an opposing piston 2 stroke engine, so it'll be burning more oil than a 4 stroke, power is being applied to accelerate the train, but the engine revs are still fairly low so the turbos aren't forcing enough air in to the cylinder to efficiently burn the fuel without producing soot, and the injection timing could be a bit retarded (by design), which would explain the flames you see out of some examples. All in all, it's not the best or most efficient of engines.
Maybe you can read my reply to "Pingas the Fourth", in which I mention turbo lag. Yes, sure, the engineer wants more power, gives more fuel into the engine and it takes the exhaust-driven turbocharger a little while to catch up. Add the tunnel factor, which must be significant since Southern Pacific went to a lot of trouble to deal with it. Then there is the possibility of sloppy injectors. Finally, maybe a 2-stroke, as you say, is always going to produce more smoke than a 4-stroke. So I agree with your "variety of reasons". By the way, a lot of Russian locos are now being re-engined by GE, so these more modern power units will produce less smoke. *****
Try looking at other videos of the same model locomotive. There are probably some good examples clearly displayed on the right side of the (full view) page. They do throw a lot of smoke, even with no tunnels involved. And it _may_ not be because of poor maintenance (although that likely contributes), but due to the fact that these locos are probably decades old, based on even older designs, they _were not designed_ to minimize pollution (which is not an easy task)...because Russia just doesn't f--king care about it the way we in the Western world do.
Badly tuned and worn engines does not completely burn all the fuel injected. The long hydrocarbon chains in diesel fuel thus transform to carbon/soot, I would suggest you read the excellent wikipedia article on Soot for more details. Happy railroading! :)
OK, Pingas, I get what you are saying. I was just talking about tunnels. Of course, you will see diesels smoking in locations where there is no tunnel. A cloud of smoke during initial acceleration is probably due to turbo lag - i.e. the motor gets extra fuel which is not burnt fully until the turbocharger gets up to its proper speed. Then the extra oxygen catches up with the increased fuel supply. In that case the smoke should disappear quickly. However, if smoke persists for a considerable time / distance then probably the explanation is just defective injectors.
Hello, Which is the difference between 2TE10 and 2TE116?. 2TE10 has a two stroke Khar'kov engine and 2TE116 a Kolomna 5D49 engine?. Thank you in advance
Definetly a diesel, each section of the loco pumps out something around 3000 hp (these videos made me do some searching on the web). By the way, steam loco would make a 'choo-choo' sound I think :)
Spectacular, all right ... though it does make you wonder about the life expectancy of crews having to use that tunnel. (And I thought the old American Alcos were bad polluters.)
あまりにもカッコいい！！興奮します。 毎日見ています。 蒸気機関車のよう。煙がすごい迫力。 これは峠の走り方ですね。 日本でも迫力のある峠はありました。 しかし、1997年に無くなってしまいました・・・・ Too cool! ! The excitement. I look every day. As the steam locomotive. Woah smoke. This is how I ran the pass. Pass in Japan was powerful. But I've lost in 1997・・・・
1984 i visit sibiria in my hollidays, Novosibirsk, Abakan /Sajan Schuschenskoje, Irkutzk, Bratzk, with airplane. I do not see this Diselloko. The hydroelectric power station (Sajan Schuschenskoje) was to make with Elektrolokos. excuse my bad english
Each unit of these locos has a Kharkov 10-cylinder (opposed) two-stroke 10D100 engine that produces 2206kw (2920bhp) at 850rpm. Cabbed units weigh 138t (the uncabbed slightly less) producing 86000lbs of tractive effort. They have no silencers, hence the volume and the nickname 'Rolling Earthquakes'. The Kharkov two-stroke engine is said to be a copy of the Fairbanks-Morse units in US. Although unsuccessful in the US, they seem to have worked well in Russia and most of it's surrounding countries.
Он не оппозитный и не двухтактны
it's straight 10, 10 cylinders - 20 pistons.
@@carsismyaddiction6919bro just casually answered a 14 year old comment.
Спасибо алгоритмам, что привели меня сюда, спустя 13 лет
At 0:34, it's obviously using open-air EGR technology, as the smoke from the 1st locomotive is sucked from the 2nd one's air intake, etc.
🤣
Вот она, мощь русских локомотивов!!! Огромный респект автору! Отлично снято.
И не смотря на такое количество дыма, это в несколько раз экологичнее, чем перевезти тот же груз, только фурами. Эта техника просто радует глаз! Железная дорога - не только предприятие, это призвание и состояние души.
Mein Herz schlägt für Metall
It would be better to restore these engines! With new seals on the pistons they could once again run without plumes of smoke.
Советских !
@@user-rl4nn9nd5g Точно! 👍
Их строил Луганский Локомотив Завод!
@@HansTheDeutscheLuftschraube. всё верно, лнр.
I call this train "The climate changer"
This is enviromental disaster! Catastrophe!
@@chameleon44 the greta killer
Still better than trucks
lmao
Офигеть! аж мурашки по коже! машины на пределе..
Толкающие тоже напрягаются, видео супер!
It is the most environment friendly diesel locomotive in the whole world - it produces no CO2 emissions ;-)
There are operators in the rear loco. Can you imagine how do they feel in the tunnel, after the first loco has left tons of smoke in it?
one on my favorite train videos on you tube
Thats really a lot of smoke! First time i see this russian locomotive.
Thats the power of a large cargo ship put on tracks! 10500 KW!
wonderful to watch thank you kindly
This is a wonderful video. I love watching these russian trains.
Amazing clip!
I like this video, great pleace, great sound, thank you
AWSOME! Reminds me of a SP Train crossing Tehachapi, with all the smoke and squealing flanges on the cars. 5***** and a fav!
These are not 6 locos, but 2 locos with 3 sections each :) Like the vid :)
That makes Doug's engine look squeaky clean :)
Lord save the locopilots!
"старый" Кузнецовский перевал, подъём 22 тысячных, поезд судя по всему "сборный" весом около 3600 тонн, при весе 4700т в голове ещё одна "трёшка" стоит. но видео не передаёт всего ощущения при нахождении в кабине, а порой и в дизельном.
А для полноты ощущений я бы остался в кабине толкача, когда он туннель проходит...
Ёжкин-кошкин!😲...получается, две трёшки 6000т. здесь уже не вывезут.....
Clag hellfire heaven! Thanks for posting!
That's sea levels up another couple of feet - but spectacular all the same. You have to feel for the crew of the rear 3 locos.
Apparently the bank engine crews were originally happy when they learnt that the steam locos were to be replaced by diesels!
Superb movie!! That smoke make our delight...
Rear engines is controlled by a separate crew, controlled from the front locomotive by a radio
Awesome. These locomotives are the baddest smoking boys I've ever seen.
Mann Mann Mann! Was für ein Spektakel! Einfach nur geil! XOPOIIIO! X) X) X)
Very nice video. Nice locos. Thumbs up!
Great video!!! They would not get away with all that smoke here in the states...Thanks for sharring...Jack
Oooh~ I love the clattering sounds....
This is a very old design ... They also use opposed pistons. Something abandoned for decades ...
Train is train
Qu'est ce que tu fait la ?
That might explain the atrocious oil burning tendencies then?
Smokie.. like a Liquorice! I Loved this .
Making those engines work aren't they. If I had to guess, either the engines are not very well maintained, or are being worked at the upper end of their ability for prolonged periods.
I'll say that they have a problem when making the mix (Air and diesel) and they are adding more diesel than Air, but yeah what you said, that Happens because of the Lack of maintenance (basically Look how dirty are the Wagons, that reveals an absolute Lack of maintenance)
Охренеть! все 6 секций тянут! Видимо уклон большой!
Да, мощно...А природа-то какая, благодать!Аж жалко становится...
good god what a video and what a train!!!
high power and wonderful place
Видео ОТЛИЧНОЕ!!! ПОБОЛЬШЕ БЫ ТАКИХ!!! ТЕПЛОВОЗ МОЩЬ,ОНИ ДЛЯ ТОГО И СОЗДАНЫ ТЯГАТЬ СВЕРХТЯЖЕЛЫЕ ГРУЗЫ НА ДАЛЬНИЯ РАССТОЯНИЯ ТАМ, ГДЕ ДРУГИМ ЭТО НЕ ПОД СИЛУ И НЕТ ВОЗМОЖНОСТИ!!!
nice sound!!!!
Awesome, just awesome!
Кузнецкий перевал - там профиль очень сложный. Даже сравнительно не тяжелые поезда таскают по 5-9 секций.
Dougs engine!! LOL,love that clip!
Woooooow ! ! ! Great vid
What a formidable consist! I wonder what could be done to clean up the exhaust gases: Not so good from an enthusiasts viewpoint but the engineering challenge is there!
Really hard working machines.
Don't mess with russian engineering!
Beautiful!
Nice train!
amazing vid
WONDERFUL, AWESOME!!!!
Outrageous! :)
@FactoryDragon87 It depends on the surrounding terrain. When driving uphill requires more power.
Well, consider each car about 65 tons (oil tanks and freezers) and do not forget the track is quite sloped and with sharp curves - there two beasts must work on full throttle to pull this train up the hill. It is the same in the States, there usually are three to six locos operating interstate cargo trains as well.
magnificent!
Awesome!
This smoke is probably not all due to poor injector maintenance. In tunnels oxygen gets depleted quickly and this results in partial burning of fuel. Hence the smoke. This problem was encountered in the USA, too. The response in the age of steam was the cab-forward locomotive type, which at least allowed the crew to get the first and best of the air. Then came the "tunnel-motor" diesels, which picked up the more oxygenated air at rail level instead of the hot air at the top of the tunnel. Russia sucks, Houston Railfan? Take a look at some old Southern Pacific photographs.
***** See explanation above.
John Hine Your explanation is wrong though. It takes a hell of a lot of oxygen deficiency to partially burn fuel - indeed, modern engines recirculate a large amount of exhaust gas into the air intake to reduce emissions.
It also doesn't explain the fact that they are still smoking like a bitch when it is drawing all the clean air in the world after it has left the tunnel. So yeah, your explanation is incorrect.
The smoke is from a variety of reasons. It's an opposing piston 2 stroke engine, so it'll be burning more oil than a 4 stroke, power is being applied to accelerate the train, but the engine revs are still fairly low so the turbos aren't forcing enough air in to the cylinder to efficiently burn the fuel without producing soot, and the injection timing could be a bit retarded (by design), which would explain the flames you see out of some examples. All in all, it's not the best or most efficient of engines.
Maybe you can read my reply to "Pingas the Fourth", in which I mention turbo lag. Yes, sure, the engineer wants more power, gives more fuel into the engine and it takes the exhaust-driven turbocharger a little while to catch up. Add the tunnel factor, which must be significant since Southern Pacific went to a lot of trouble to deal with it. Then there is the possibility of sloppy injectors. Finally, maybe a 2-stroke, as you say, is always going to produce more smoke than a 4-stroke. So I agree with your "variety of reasons". By the way, a lot of Russian locos are now being re-engined by GE, so these more modern power units will produce less smoke. *****
Try looking at other videos of the same model locomotive. There are probably some good examples clearly displayed on the right side of the (full view) page. They do throw a lot of smoke, even with no tunnels involved. And it _may_ not be because of poor maintenance (although that likely contributes), but due to the fact that these locos are probably decades old, based on even older designs, they _were not designed_ to minimize pollution (which is not an easy task)...because Russia just doesn't f--king care about it the way we in the Western world do.
*****
I thought they were Russian? They certainly have that brutal 1950's efficiency-over-good-looks style...
Epic Video
44 wagons! insane
nice video
Yes, there are other crew. You can see they open the window for fresh air. Radio controlled locomotives are not distributed in Russia at all.
Awesome!!!!
wow!! good video :D
You would think so - but have another look - there's someone in the leading cab of the rear loco set!
Absolutes Klasse-Video .Das ist der Hit des Jahres.
Tragen die Lokführer Gasmaske oder werden Lok`s ferngesteuert.?
Liebe Grüße vom Peter
Зачем надевать противогаз если достаточно просто закрыть все окна в кабине?
Boah,das sind ja geile Loks
really great movie
are all locomotives of that serie smoking such bad?
Badly tuned and worn engines does not completely burn all the fuel injected. The long hydrocarbon chains in diesel fuel thus transform to carbon/soot, I would suggest you read the excellent wikipedia article on Soot for more details. Happy railroading! :)
Super ten film, pozdrawiam z Polski ;) Do ula ;)
Impresionante convoy
I like these hard-smoking locomotives. It is the future!
Оно в прошлом
How does the driver of the second set of locomotives breath?
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!
looks impressive and give the old things credit for what there doing as in it,s looking kinda hill and that and the whole length of the train etc.
I'd consider those diesels honorary steam locomotives.
OK, Pingas, I get what you are saying. I was just talking about tunnels. Of course, you will see diesels smoking in locations where there is no tunnel. A cloud of smoke during initial acceleration is probably due to turbo lag - i.e. the motor gets extra fuel which is not burnt fully until the turbocharger gets up to its proper speed. Then the extra oxygen catches up with the increased fuel supply. In that case the smoke should disappear quickly. However, if smoke persists for a considerable time / distance then probably the explanation is just defective injectors.
a beautiful siberian landscape :D
Я одного не понимаю - чем дышит в тоннеле бригада толкача?
+владимир 74 Окна закрывают и все . Сам ездил так - вполне сносно .
В городских пробках хуже !
акваланги надевают
Пофиг вообще дым этот не влияет человеку и повредить ему не может и дышать есть чем
Hello,
Which is the difference between 2TE10 and 2TE116?. 2TE10 has a two stroke Khar'kov engine and 2TE116 a Kolomna 5D49 engine?. Thank you in advance
great!!!
always good diesel locomotives without smoke filters
beautiful !!!
Lokomotiv breath
That whole train looks like something from the distant past.
@petiakonan Well, one region is "pool table", the others- grit hillocks. :)
These locomotive are a prime example of how to end the problem of global warming
Definetly a diesel, each section of the loco pumps out something around 3000 hp (these videos made me do some searching on the web). By the way, steam loco would make a 'choo-choo' sound I think :)
And the forest still looked green & alive after "this" had passed by!
Super!!!!
nothing like diesels smoking it up with a heavy train..awesome pure awesome!!
Spectacular, all right ... though it does make you wonder about the life expectancy of crews having to use that tunnel. (And I thought the old American Alcos were bad polluters.)
Евро 10!
あまりにもカッコいい！！興奮します。
毎日見ています。
蒸気機関車のよう。煙がすごい迫力。
これは峠の走り方ですね。
日本でも迫力のある峠はありました。
しかし、1997年に無くなってしまいました・・・・
Too cool! ! The excitement.
I look every day.
As the steam locomotive. Woah smoke.
This is how I ran the pass.
Pass in Japan was powerful.
But I've lost in 1997・・・・
what kind of cars were these engines pulling?
Люто.Это так и задуманно,или некая неисправность ? В заднем локомотиве,чтобы не задохнуться-баллон с кислородом 7
Kislorod tochno vozili ha parovozakh na nekotorykh dorogakh.
Why does the middle part of each loco have a cab?
AWESOME :D
Is ja hammer, is mal wieder alles bewiesen...!
Ultra ekologické! :D
Этим ребятам я бы доверил водить поезда на нашем участке. Длина поезда 71ув.
Рефсекций-то сколько. Сейчас уже столько не ездит.
10 cylinder turbo engines!
Is really 5 cyl. with 10 opposed pistons diesel 2-stroke
1984 i visit sibiria in my hollidays, Novosibirsk, Abakan /Sajan Schuschenskoje, Irkutzk, Bratzk, with airplane.
I do not see this Diselloko.
The hydroelectric power station (Sajan Schuschenskoje) was to make with Elektrolokos.
excuse my bad english