How to Float a Shower Curb: Tile Coach Episode 15
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- A detailed tutorial on How to Float a Shower Curb for Tile. Step by Step demonstration, and the how and why behind the process of "floating" or mortar bed tile installation. This method is superior to others because one is able to achieve a flatter, more true substrate for the installation of tile.
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I have a crew of 6 awesome workers, and we do mid to high end tile and bathroom remodels in Northern California. I have been in the trade since 2002, and love what I do. From old school mud work, to new schluter systems innovations-- we do it all. Enjoy the video! - Zábava
Excellent. This is how I do my curbs also, but I was born and raised in SoCal so no stranger to mud.
I was taught to do it all at once, but some guys will scratch coat the walls. I think it is just a carry over from stucco work. They did a scratch coat for stucco so why not do it for the shower/tub walls too, etc...
Nice! Sometimes I put the wire lathe through the floor and roll up the curb. Same as you have done, but I like the weight of the bed holding down the curb as well as the whole thing being uniform.
When you level your curb, why not tap a level line on the outside of the curb and pull your flat trowel in a sloped angle across?
Awesome to know guys out there are still doing it the right way and not putting in schluter crap!
I cheat and use a product called easy curb. The liner goes in between the inside and outside pieces of easy curb then screw together at the top about 2.5 inches from shower floor. Then packed mud on both sides of liner.
Hot moped pan and curb , lathe formed to the curb 1x6 nailed to the top of the curb use torpedo level mud face and inside pan curb screed off 1x6 inside outside curb set slope if top of the curb 1/4 “ stick set to outside face of curb
Henry’s injected in 16 penny nail holes used to place and level 1x6 on top of the curb 4 holes total nails are crossed
Excellent video! One small thing is that the traditional way to use the chicken wire is to add an additional 2" bend into the shower pan so it ties into your deck mud. It really does need that tie-in because of how much abuse it gets as a step
I’ve been watching this dude for the past 2 weeks. Very technical. Giving good info. I’m gonna do a shower and feel pretty confident it won’t look like a 1st graders sand castle gone bad. Thanks Isaac
Same here! But I have been watching a while!
I wish these videos were around when I was making showers. I would be embarrassed to admit how long it took me to float a curb and my results weren't this good. But my favorite trick in this video is raising the pan up off the floor so you can work on it with out being on your knees. And then you can put it down when you're done. :)
You have the heart of a teacher. I’m glad I found your channel. Thank you.
Thank you Isaac for your time explaining this stuff
Very skilled trades men. This man's craft is his art!
Perfect! I am a DIYer getting ready for a full bath remodel. This was the curb video I really needed. Thanks!
Love everything up to you applying the cement/mortar. Set a board, the dimension of the required finish, on top of the curb. You don't have to level it.Take your measurement to have finish curb parallel to shower wall. Apply your mud on both sides of curb and float it flush to the board on top. It takes ten minutes or less. Give it some time to set up then use two c- clamps to secure two straight edges on either sides of curb. Level those straight edges at the required height, dump in your mud and float it flush to the straight edges. another ten minutes.
So much info packed into 24 minutes. Thanks for taking the time to create this tutorial.
Brilliant process! Great tile instructor. Thank you.
Thanks for making sure your audience can see everything your doing. Great videos....
first rate job and no shortcuts! excellent video! i like the way you explain every step that you do. perfection is made up of seemingly trivial details and perfection is not trivial!
Isaac I'm very happy you showed this video. It shows the old school craft. It's not for everyone but I believe it's the best way. I work in alot of very old homes that have mud showers that are 50+ years old with felt and lead pan liners. I would like to see any of the new methods last that long. I did read somewhere in the comments about a wicking system Vs a top sealed system and I have seen the results of pans with liners and top membranes. The mud smells of mold and is still wet. It's one or the other not both. I'm in Michigan so it may depend on the climate your in as well. Keep up the great videos!
My curb is looking good! Thanks for the help!
Love your work! Easy to understand the teaching for ESL people like me. Keep it up. All the best!
Thanks! Love your videos man, you are a REAL professional, and I mean that because you show things you do that turn out awesome, and show the few things that you have done in the past that could have been done differently/better.
Your videos are great. I’ve been in the industry for 26 years. Forgot more than most guys will ever know. I used to try and teach my helpers but some get it and some it goes right through their ears.
This was an amazing tutorial. Thank you and God bless you.
Thankyou for the effort to film this. I watch your videos and what I take from it is that you put effort, time and pride in your work. ...It shows!...Great work and I appreciate it.
I absolutely love your videos, I've done several showers for our customers, we are in the custom home line of work, I can always learn, an old builder told me when we stop learning we're done I've learned so much watching your videos. GREAT WORK! Keep it up man.
Issac good evening, I love the information on your videos. I was born in a tradesman family, my dad is a union bricklayers, my grandfather is an electrician and I learn some tile setting from my uncle, but I have never learn so much as with your videos. Thanks so much.
Just found this channel. Thanks for the info! Your helping me flip houses the right way when I tile.
Great job. This is how it's done.
Thanks, will be putting in a shower soon. Great info.
Great videos, very informative. Thanks to you I can actually do this stuff on my own.
Very good job, i feel your passion and dedication on all the jobs you do way to go
your reply came so fast....was watching the granite shower tearout when you answered. Thanks for the info
thank you for your time and sharing a incredible skill
Right on brother. I took my house flip side job to full-time contractor, things like this are setting me aside from my competition. I've done this before but with way more thought and less straight forward. You're saving my butt!
Really nice work. Love the curb!
Exactly the video I needed. Thank you!
This is the video I needed, Thank you! Been following ya for a few months and this just tied everything together for me. All the best to you.
Great videos! I’m a home owner doing a DIY master bath shower and tub remodel and couldn’t do it without getting knowledge from guys like you. Would love to start a second career doing this.
WOW finally some body knows what they are doing. I always say mud it .plus the walls.great job. I hope red guard man is paying attention. Issac great job.
Amazing! Your video was huge help! Thank you!🙏
Thanks so much to the 50 Cent of tile! You’re awesome man love your energy.
I’m old school I mud all my curbs. Like the the cedar shims I’ll try that technique next one I do seems like it will work a lot better, thanks for video and time
Thank you for the very informative videos they are of great help and inspiration.
Perfect!! I was wondering how to make a curb that will last. This was very helpful as are all your episodes. Thank You.👍👍
You have some of the best videos out there bud. Keep up the great work...
Hey Isaac, great video! Exactly, I mean EXACTLY the way I float a shower curb. So awesome to see you do it and put it out on CZcams so others can see how it's done and it's been done right for a long, long time. I love the part where you claim it man, you still got it! That sense of satisfaction and accomplishment when you nailed it really hit home with me. Great job!
no I'm in laguna Beach, Southern Cali
You got talent bro good work
Another awesome video . Keep them coming
Interesting, I have not seen this method yet. Here in Colorado I was first taught, and a lot of guys still do wrap the vinyl with backer board (and screws) and then redguard the backer board. I stopped doing them that way about ten years ago though, because I had started seeing too many repair projects where water was getting outside the shower and finding it's way under the curb framing and swelling the lumber. I now pour a concrete curb encapsulating the liner.
Thank you for your effort to make this ❤️🥰💯
pretty cool free style curb. Be proud
Great video man... it’s never bad to have and see new ways to do things. Add more videos of other things on tile.
Masterful. I share your enthusiasm at 21:30! Great work.
Great video! Getting ready to do my first shower and this answered my curb questions. I'm going to make a wood block that fits between float straps to keep everything plumb and square
We have been doing this type of curb for almost 10 years now. One thing that makes the process a lot easier and faster is to screw in hardi board on the outside and just form the top and front of the curb. This way you have a perfect level piece of hardie to build your curb off.
Thank You for making this video .I have my first DIY curb to do and have seen so many videos where they screw right through the pan liner and I know that is asking for a leak. Thank you again
Very helpful. Thank you!
Great video, thank you.
Great video and great job.
Excellent work I thought people didn’t float anymore, now days everyone using this cement board .Kerdi board etc that don’t last a while I really think that the floating method is the best of the tile industry
Isaac thank you so much definitely I’ll be using your tutorial video to do my shower, you give me confidence to do it.
Such a master
Thanks for the videos
Great video boss. Always a pro.
Great video!
Thanks for your help..👍
Just what I needed! Doing my first curb in the am. Wish me luck! Thanks man
How did it go ?
So what happened?
Nice job bro. Thank you so much
your chicken wire theory helped me a lot I used rabbit wire, thanks for this 5 star video. I did not have your tools but hand floated it to perfection. THank you
Great job!
Thanks for the video. I like to rip down a 2×6 to the finished height of curb inside and outside. Make a form that is level and plumb, slip it over wire wrapped curb, wet it down, pack it with dry pack, screed off the top, remove form and fill in low spots. Super fast
That’s my plan to do !
great job
Super job..
Excelente keep posting videos like this bro
Nice curb, Isaac.
Fantastic video! I found your video after seeing a bunch of other people screwing into the top/sides of their curb (why have a waterproof liner if you're going to poke holes into it??). I really enjoyed the way you explained things. Video length was perfect, camera angles great, just awesome.
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the detail instructions! I've replaced quite a few bath tubs and tile work, now I'm doing my first shower pan/curb, a little nervous about it.
Good video man 👍
good job !
Thank you!
Just seen this video and did my curb last night just like this but wish i wouldnt seen the part of leveling it first wouldve made it much easier lol! But for the first time as a DIY i think it came out pretty good? And its leveled all around !:)
Awsome job dude👍
Good video man
I do my curbs the same way but, I generally do a scratch coat before to let that float coat tighten up a little quicker. Good job.
@@TileCoach Birmingham Alabama. I generally scratch coat all of my walls( tub hop ups, shower walls, ceilings and curb). It's good to see another tile mason controlling all the variables.
Wow- thanks a ton
Very nice my friend.
Good job
Thanks!
I like your videos !!! Im from Fairfield Ca!!
Thank you
I'm in Louisiana, used mud when I started in late 80's but use backer board now on curbs. I drill holes or cut lines in backerboard then silicone them on the back side then put screws threw and silicone on top then hydroban on top and haven't had any issues in the around 15 years I've been doing this method. Didn't start using Hydroban until probably 6 years ago, but still haven't had issues on jobs I did before. When I floated curbs, putting something under level and bracing with bricks works so you don't have to hold it makes life much easier. I actually like floating more but the company I do most of my work for prefers using the backerboard.
Amazing
Great video! Nice to see people floating instead of using schleuter for their curbs and pans! One question, why not use bricks instead of wood? Bricks don’t expand and contract which can crack the grout and/or tiles!
I've found screwing a 2x6 or whatever finished height you want, to the floor, in the front the curb 1" away from the wire. It gives you a staight/flat outside edge and a flat level top (sloped of course). Then I just go big in the inside and use a straight edge to cut the inside to the desired width.
I'm a builder and if you know what your doing. It doesn't matter if it's wood or concrete. The right steps get perfect results. Bunch of hackers out there. Tile coach is good.
Sweet!!!
Keep up the good work and you a great teacher to. I preffer a single 2x6 standing on edge instead of the 2x4 on a flat. The shower curb with 2x4s just gets to wide in my opinion. On seperate note.I know you only made a mock up of this shower for teaching purposes, but the pan liner at the top of the curb should be about 3 inchs above the "Finished" curb height.
awesome!
Thanks!
Awesome Vid!
I am not a mud guy here in jersey but I do mud shower bases and floors when needed.
But this is def a very good method to know.Thank you for making this video!
👍🏻nice mud job. I don’t know why I’m watching this after work, but thanks for taking the time to make these videos. We scratch our floats so it’s interesting for me to see slightly different methods at arriving at the same goal. I bet that’s the first curb you’ve done without knee pads😀
Just out of curiosity, what is the school of thought behind a single coat vs. a scratch and brown? And I wonder why it appears to be regional. Once in a blue moon we will do a backsplash that way and I’ve never liked how long strips take to set up.
Yeah I remember my Dad sprinkle the strips on counter tops to help them set, back when people did 4 1/4” and v-cap 😀.
I use the excess mud I screed off the inside to hold my straightedge up level , and then for the front I always carry 1x4 and use it as a form board, leave it overnight and it just is so crisp! Nothing beats floating
Isaac Ostrom yeah I use to engage in all the tile forums and yes people tend to talk down on floating, man when a shower is floated though, it is so nice to tile , solid, flat, plumb. I’ve done some other methods and they are ok , I just get tired of using thinset backbuttering to straighten out walls. It’s a lot of labor, I get it, it’s really easy to carry 5 sheets of kerdiboard into a bathroom and be done with it, and it is a skill to work with mud , and if a diy tile guy hasn’t received proper training,they aren’t gonna know how to sling mud. I did a 4 year apprentice under a union setter from so-cal , I went on to work for a company that 100 percent used cement board, then took my license test and went back to floating 👍🏼
Isaac Ostrom Thanks for all of your really helpful videos. Did you end up doing one comparing cement board and floating? As a DIYer I’m trying to do the best job for my skill set so that comparison would be really interesting.
NICE
Nice
I love watching your videos, and appreciate the effort you make. Have you ever floated a quarter circle shower pan and curb? Besides saying don't do it, what advice might you have?