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Johnny's Reloading Bench I don’t know if you’d be interested but I’d like to see a .30 carbine bullet put in a 5.56 case and see how fast you can push it (full 45mm length case if possible). Also any other pistol bullet possible in that case would be cool.
Jeremy S no 350 legend is a 9mm basically. I’m thinking of something that could fit in an ar-15 without needing to cut down the case much if at all like a .300 blk does. Also even 350 legend cuts the case and uses unique brass, it’s apparently very difficult to alter 5.56 brass to take a 9mm bullet so you almost can’t really consider it an offspring of the 5.56.
It gets way easier with every rifle you bed. My first probably took me 8 hours of careful work, now I can do a better job in about 3 hours, even less if it's a wood stock.
My Remington 700 Long Range with accurized action and Criterion 28" Bull in 300 Winchester Magnum is my HAMMER! Very accurate and yes you NEED a 300 WM for Christmas maybe?
Honestly man, youre the only channel i always hope new videos are up for. Ive learned A TON! From you. These gaps between uploads kinda suck lol. Youre awesome man!
"Not like in a afraid of blowing my face off kind of nervous, more like a please God let this work kind of nervous!" Just gotta love your descriptions Johnny.
Why is that when you shoot a good 4 round group I hold my breath and really really hope you 'Don't screw it up!' For that 5th shot. Keep'em coming we here in the U.K. appreciate you.
You did awesome bud! I"d look at it as your first project car. Not everything is perfect but it's your creation and you know every square inch of it and people can see the work that you put in it and appreciate the honesty you brought to this video
Longest 266 days ever! Jk. Love the win mag content but any day you release a video, is a good day. I’ve known a bunch of people that bedded there guns but not known anyone to be blown away with great results. Thanks for sharing
Tip for loading up the lee priming tool tray is to put the tray on the table and turn the primer box upside down before you open then slide the primers out one row at a time. Works great. Also be aware that I''ve had mine on what looked like lock, but turned out to be slightly on and small primers fall out. Since then, I hold it spout up until its in the priming tool so I don't spill any.
I took an empty Vitavouri 1LB powder bottle and cut it into a little tray to catch all my brass trimmings. Help keep my bench clean. I'm sure you could do this with many things but I cut mine to drift right under the cutting head. Works great!
Epoxy is a really good glue for timber. The glue will travel up to 10 inches within the cells of the timber and most wood working glues are stronger than the timber itself. This makes the glue joints nice and strong. Your bedding job is fine it’s doing the job don’t play around with what you have already done.
thank you for sharing your bedding experience with that rifle I too had some wood crack out while drilling my front piller on my Remington 700 308 factory stock that i had purchased as my first firearm as a young buck...it made me so sick as it had extreme sentimental value and sat im my safe for last 10yrs unfinished after...my goal this winter is to revisit and get this girl reassembled and to the range... it's going to be a happy day and im feeling the pain now that you experienced on the first day of shooting that gun...nice groups and thanks again
Im probability not alone when i say that I really just can't wait for johnny to upload the next video, thank you for your videos they really brighten up my day
After bedding my 22-250 Ruger M77 Mk1 I found my go to Sierra 52gn HPBT Match load that used to shoot .75 MOA all day every day went to hell at best 1.5 MOA, and I had to redevelop. My 63gn SP load on the other hand got better by .25 MOA. My conclusion was you never know what you’re going to get, and going back to load development all over again is required.
Wow! Congratulations J on the bedding job. Stellar improvement! Really good groups especially the last with the heavy bullet and RL 23. Really enjoyed seeing that. Do justice to your hard work and...toss that Hornady brass! Grab some high quality brass and stick with the heavy matchkings...your gun loves them. .001 neck tension is fine UNLESS the magazine is cheap with a weak spring. When bullets move under recoil and slam into the front of the magazine....bad things happen. That said yours performed well it would appear. Just my opinion.
Bedding use to be pillar bedding or glass bedding not both. Then people started doing both. If you do a good glass bedding job, you don't need pillar bedding. If you have a good pillar bedding job, you don't need to also glass bed. It is fine to do both, but it complicates things because you need the pillar bedding contacted correctly or you get no benefit from it and if your pillar bedding is not the right height like the job you did the glass bedding will have you above the lug. Nice video. I like the fact you share your mistakes and people can comment on them. We all make our mistakes and learn. The best learned ones are usually on our biggest mistakes.
You did great Johnny! I'd say your glass bedding job was a success. I was a bit nervous with my first few glass beddings. I started to relax and began to know how to work with the epoxy to make some really great shooting rifles. The free floating part is where they benefited the most I think. That 240 grain smk and h1000 made that rifle come alive! Good work!
so glad you bedded the stock and didnt give up. so rewarding when your effort pays off to drop those groups. the recoil lug is fine provided the lugs were set while the recoil lug was engaged. some bed the bottom metal area also to give that little bit of extra stability and strength to the pillars. sand off any small protruding bumps in the bedding around the trigger area as they can cause obstructions to solid seating over time. a solid low one piece scope mount bedded to the action would also give stability to the action and a dependable scope mount. ive even polished firing pin shafts so they strike the primer consistently and arent as effected by dust buildup. Not sure if your scope has parallax error compensation, but if you dial the parallax compensation in properly, your groups may tighten noticeable. maybe also anneal your case necks. best case ive found so far is ADI, but then im australian, so im biased
Sierra has made two different matchkings in the 200g and 220g weight. The longer length is the newer production which has a higher BC. I had the same thing and called Sierra and found out. Thanks for all that you do!
Modify your magazine. I use a Browning A-Bolt II Medallion in 300 Win Mag. for hunting. It also has a very long throat. I hand load 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tips over Reloder 22. It is a very fast round at a little over 3100 feet per second. It shoots less than .5 MOA, most of the time I will hold it down to .350 MOA. I had to mill out the magazine so I could run the bullet out very long. This gun is a beast and one of the most accurate dependable riffles and loads I have ever shot especially for a production hunting rifle.
I bought a Thompson patriot because of you. Using your reloading info I went to Texas and killed an aoudad at 200 yds using 140 gr Noslers. IToo restocked it with aBoyds thumb hole stock. As of now it shoots great without bedding it but will do so if it warrants it. By the way I turned 90 , 3-7-22
Great video! You now have a much more solid barrel harmonic baseline from which to tune the loads. Let the groupings decide if any more bedding work need be contemplated.
That is a hotly debated topic that I spent a lot of time reading about. I have several stocks that were bedded by my grandfather and he always bedded the chamber area. I decided to float the whole barrel instead. Stopping at the recoil lug seems to be the most popular method these days. I obviously don't have enough experience or knowledge to really defend that decision. The good news is that it would be a quick job to bed that area, and a quick job to remove it afterward if I wanted to. I would love to make a video where I load up a bunch of ammo and then shoot the gun with and without the chamber area bedded. I'm just backed up too far on reloading projects.
@@JohnnysReloadingBench it's always so cool to see your thought process on these sort of things. Thanks again for taking the time to share with the rest of us :-)
Johnny's Reloading Bench I taught myself to glass bed rifles, I use Brownells accuglass and always bed 3” up the barrel and free float the rest. My 300 Mag has always shot well but after bedding put 5 rounds into sub 1/2 minute groups every time.. I use 180 gr Nossler accubonds behind 75.5 gr of Reloader 22 with a Winchester Magnum primer. Might try buying a neck sizing due to help with brass life. Since neck sizing I have never had a case head separate
Daryl Blackburn I’ve done it both ways on several rifles but bedding down the barrel has never failed me yet especially with thin hunting profile barrels. Might get away with that if it’s a bull barrel but but a pincer thin one
Johnny, not bad. Don't worry, epoxy ozing out on the first time happens to everyone. It happened to me with my Remington 700 223. I had to scrape it all off and start all over again. I almost gave up after that happened, but I took a deep breath, and said to myself, Mama Sosa, raised no punk, now get back there and start over again and learn from your mistakes". Love your channel and thank you for helping me become a better reloader. I wish you and yours a very Happy and Safe Thanksgiving
The task was a necessity....its about time! Perhaps your 300 mag properly tasked will impress you and your followers, and it a valid project in that that mag is too inconsistent when we know you have to get rid of that factory stock to get on that road to consistency or just accomplish that task. What a show full of suspense up to and after your test.
Since you bedded this stock and didn't like how it turned out, then sanded it down and bedded it again...now you've done it twice. That makes you a youtube pro. lol Great job.
Awesome job, I just bought the TC Compass, 10077 300 WIN MAG. I was leaning towards the use of H1000 but I might ( might) give the “Reloader” a go and see what I get on paper. It’s all new, still in the box. I needed this weapon like I need another hole in my head, wife might put one in it if I don’t quit buying toys, at 59 you’d think I would stop. Nah.
Another UK viewer, its been to long but glad you have come back to the 300wm. I wouldn’t bother to much about the small details that you point out with the bedding Take a look at how the rifle is shooting that should tell you have done enough to get the best out of your Thompson. Keep up the good work
Sierra 2231 has a REALLY short bearing surface. It's designed to "compete" with the Berger 200.20x F-Class bullet. There's a 30 page thread on Accurate Shooter about it. It doesn't perform as well as it should.
I've read most of that thread. I came away thinking most people were disappointed as well. We'll see how they shoot it my gun! Forums are just exhausting...I don't know how I spent so much time on them 10 years ago.
Does anyone else have a problem watching Johnny's Reloading without thinking about the "real doll" video? That was just too funny. BTW, I've done several stocks and you did OK with that stock. The Boyd's stock has the recoil lug too low and the skim coat of epoxy is fine. Also, the wood should be happy with the epoxy where you had the break. Now, you can do the 6.5 without any errors.
I will probably end up using the Oryx chassis with the 6.5 most of the time, so I don't think I will bed it right now. I need to pick up another short action Compass...I just need to decide what cartridge.
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I had ruger m77 300 win mag with 22" stainless barrel laminated stock. Beautiful rifle,would not shoot consistent groups. Free floated stock,no difference. After a firing couple 180gr rounds I would start tight gripping anticipating the recoil. OUCH!!!
Love your videos. I don’t have or want a 300 WM but I learned stuff about my bushing dies. Also, I had considered getting a Boyd’s stock and bedding it (they’re so pretty). You’ve convinced me otherwise.
I have that hand primer and yeah I like it a lot my buddy has the bench mounted one and it's 10x better just get a piece of 3/4 MDF or Birch about half the size of a shoebox give or take and mount it to that the bolts are flat so you can torque them into the wood and be flush and you can then store it and not permanently mount to the table but still have the stability
I am sure the case head separating problem is caused by the Larry Willis die. I would like to see how you fare without using it with the same brand brass you had the failure. If you work the case in that area it is likely to cause failure. If you end up not being able to resize the case after a few reloads then try using the Larry Willis die sparingly to allow the case to be inserted. I don’t think it should be taken back to factory size according to my experience. I own a Ruger m77 in 300 WM and really enjoy shooting it. I like the videos and hope to see more like this.
That is rimmed cartridges are magnum because they are deemed belted on the inside and some blank shells aren't? Make sure they are fully lubed when you fully resize.
Hey just a pal wanting to inform a pal, but if you can get a hold of thicker necked brass, cause even in 7mm mag hornady brass has such a thin neck in comparison that it causes a sort of yaw that causes inaccuracy, I found that Lapua, or nickel plated brass is what these belted magnums love
Hey Johnny, Can you measure the head of your case from the front of the belt to the face of the head. Little tricky both my FC and Nosler 300 WinMag cases are about 0.216". Have read sometimes the belt could be to thin allowing excess headspace. This may allow the head to stretch backwards after the body obturates to the chamber wall. Even though we set headspace to the shoulder, if the belt was thin in front the case shoulder can collapse upon the impact of the firing pin creating excessive headspace before the case obturates to chamber. Brass spec SAAMI is .220-.008 Chamber spec SAAMI is .220-.227
Good to see ya Poppin in the Georgia chats👍 lil off subject here but I have some Speer HotCor .338 200gr SP I'll send em if ya got something to shoot em out of...I was gonna resize to .323 for my Sporter Mauser but that's extreme..
doing a "duplicatethe milspec loading " video would be awsome for the .300 win--- we got guys at the range trying to do the same but not getting near the velocities- from my understanding the milspec load has its own proprietary powder that no one can purchase either..
Magnum cartridges must be properly done from head (very important) to neck. I think the problem was it wasn't lubed well enough during full length case sizing. Hence, my previous text. Congrats otherwise, your stock bedding shoes excellent signs that a big improvement has been made. You are on the correct track.... just know birds whispering to you that your stock should've been embedded was correct. I can't wait until you get that one together and get us a moose! Lol. I definitely have confidence in you and your slowly modified TC. Hope you had an excellent Thanksgiving and will have a super better Xmas!
If Alliant isn't going to be able to import enough to keep a reliable supply on the shelves, I might as well just move on to other powders. There are too many good magnum powders sitting on the shelf to worry about the one that isn't.
Looking into VV N565 word is, it is very close to RL26 in Burn rate. Many have said same charge with both are getting same point of impact with about 10 fps faster with VV N565.
@@mark120371 I have a pound of N565 to test with. It will be showing up in some videos very soon. That's great to hear that it's performing close to RL26.
Johnny's Reloading Bench there was a HUGE shipment of RL26 that hit the shelves in August! I was lucky enough to get 4-8lb containers from powder valley, but it was everywhere for several weeks. I try to always keep it on hand now due to the number of cartridges I use it for. Backorder it at powder valley and grafs if you need to.
@@jimhans1 Yeah, I forgot about that. Moparmadman even got in touch back then to let me know, but I didn't get an order placed in time. I wasn't really shooting at the time and figured it was back on the shelves for good. I'm going to get a bunch next time.
Nothing to do with this, but I just picked up some H4350 from an academy, actually while looking for other powders, but figured I can burn 4350 in my .270 Win and save my Varget and 4064 for other cartridges.
Didn't read all the comments, this may be redundant, but, if you shoot the 300 win mag a lot you may want to get a lead sled. Couple years from now you will wish you had.
Johnny I wouldn't be worried about that wood crack in the mag well. You used devcon to repair it and devcon is some tough stuff. It's actually probably stronger than what it was before as long as you have a good bond.
Hmmm, those 200gr SMKs might be something I consider for a .30-06 load. We shall see, once I get my post-64 Model 70 fixed up. Need to get the Lyman 17AHB and 57WJS, a PTG DBM, and an AICS style magazine before I can think about getting into reloading though.
Johnny. Really enjoy your lessons mate. Have you ever thought of testing a HOWA? 7mm 08 would be great to see. Just a wishlist for me. Thanks again for all the lessons mate.
I use the Lee Auto Bench Primer. I have it mounted to a piece of 5" X 12" x .75" plywood that I clamp to my bench or use some of that nonskid tool box liner mat at the coffee table when I'm watching TV. I like it, works well. It has a lot of leverage so it requires very light pressure to seat the primers. Thanks for all the great info Johnny, Don't blow yer face off.
If you want to reduce the number of firings, you get on a case keep resizing near the belt. That's where it will split, and your case is worthless. Been there and done that. More power to you but the best thing one can do with any belted case is to not size the belt. It is much better to just neck size and use fire formed cases. Been there and done that. Preferably one will just stick to calibers without belts. I would never again purchase a caliber with a belted case. I shoot 7 mm STW, 300 Win Mag and have shot 7mm Rem Mag... The bottom of the case is work hardened quickly and you go and resize it too much and it splits. If you are only looking for a few resizes it may not matter but if you want to reload it for a long brass life, I wouldn't be working that part of the case. Best not to resize that part of the case unless absolutely necessary. I did have a 30 Super custom done as well. Same scenario.
I got one of the first Lyman 8 presses. WHAT A NIGHTMARE!! I wrote a lengthy review on Midways sight, elaborated on the issues with the press and mostly Lyman's customer service ( or lack of!!). MIDWAY DELETED MY REVIEW!! I wrote Midway with my concern, and they claim reviews are evaluated by a third party. I don't always buy a product based on reviews, but I do read the real "meat and potatoes" concerns! I NO LONGER BUY FROM MIDWAY!
What were your problems? I will be happy to pass along negative info if it is legitimate! Mine is great so far, but I'd be happy to hear what problems you had.
Did you ever section that brass? I couldn't find a video. New at this and wanting to learn more about pressure signs in the 300WM before a failure occurs.
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Johnny's Reloading Bench I don’t know if you’d be interested but I’d like to see a .30 carbine bullet put in a 5.56 case and see how fast you can push it (full 45mm length case if possible). Also any other pistol bullet possible in that case would be cool.
kissoldier777 that’s called 350 legend
Jeremy S no 350 legend is a 9mm basically. I’m thinking of something that could fit in an ar-15 without needing to cut down the case much if at all like a .300 blk does. Also even 350 legend cuts the case and uses unique brass, it’s apparently very difficult to alter 5.56 brass to take a 9mm bullet so you almost can’t really consider it an offspring of the 5.56.
It gets way easier with every rifle you bed. My first probably took me 8 hours of careful work, now I can do a better job in about 3 hours, even less if it's a wood stock.
kissoldier777
they call that the 300 Blackout but I’ve tried 110 30 carbine round nose in mine but they have trouble feeding
My wife “do you even have that caliber” me “no“ Her eyes roll “ you have a problem “ me “yep”
She’s right, you do have a problem. You don’t have a .300 Win Mag...
My Remington 700 Long Range with accurized action and Criterion 28" Bull in 300 Winchester Magnum is my HAMMER! Very accurate and yes you NEED a 300 WM for Christmas maybe?
Big E lol maybe. I don’t know how I can make up enough brownie points between now and Christmas though.
@@cob7616 be good save up extra brownie points for Father's day then!
The answer is always "not yet..."
God I've been craving those talking hands all damn day!!
You and me both! He reminds me of my uncle does that constantly!
Jrb could be the next Palmolive hand model
That sure is one strange fetish
Honestly man, youre the only channel i always hope new videos are up for. Ive learned A TON! From you. These gaps between uploads kinda suck lol. Youre awesome man!
"Not like in a afraid of blowing my face off kind of nervous, more like a please God let this work kind of nervous!" Just gotta love your descriptions Johnny.
I wonder if we will ever see those .257 Roberts dies sitting on your bench used?
It’s great to see this series started back up. We’re still here with you.
Nice to hear the shoutout to gunblue490, one of my favorite channels on CZcams
Why is that when you shoot a good 4 round group I hold my breath and really really hope you 'Don't screw it up!' For that 5th shot. Keep'em coming we here in the U.K. appreciate you.
You did awesome bud! I"d look at it as your first project car. Not everything is perfect but it's your creation and you know every square inch of it and people can see the work that you put in it and appreciate the honesty you brought to this video
Thanks!
Longest 266 days ever! Jk. Love the win mag content but any day you release a video, is a good day. I’ve known a bunch of people that bedded there guns but not known anyone to be blown away with great results. Thanks for sharing
I think the key is to start with a gun that shoots awful in a new stock.
So happy this is back, I’ve been waiting to see more 300win mag.
Tip for loading up the lee priming tool tray is to put the tray on the table and turn the primer box upside down before you open then slide the primers out one row at a time. Works great. Also be aware that I''ve had mine on what looked like lock, but turned out to be slightly on and small primers fall out. Since then, I hold it spout up until its in the priming tool so I don't spill any.
All of my Boyd's stocks cracked when I drilled them for pillars. The Devcon is steel epoxy. Steel is stronger than wood.
Chris Butler - all of the premade pillars are too large! I have stopped buying pillars and started making them myself out of aluminum. (Micro lathe)
@@TexasLonghornRanch I use threaded lamp tubing. I've never used commercial pillars
Carbon fibre arrow shafts are go apparently
I made my pillars out of larger diameter steel brake line tubing. It works well.
@@felixrochajr83 very cool! Thanks for the tip
I took an empty Vitavouri 1LB powder bottle and cut it into a little tray to catch all my brass trimmings. Help keep my bench clean. I'm sure you could do this with many things but I cut mine to drift right under the cutting head. Works great!
Epoxy is a really good glue for timber. The glue will travel up to 10 inches within the cells of the timber and most wood working glues are stronger than the timber itself. This makes the glue joints nice and strong. Your bedding job is fine it’s doing the job don’t play around with what you have already done.
thank you for sharing your bedding experience with that rifle I too had some wood crack out while drilling my front piller on my Remington 700 308 factory stock that i had purchased as my first firearm as a young buck...it made me so sick as it had extreme sentimental value and sat im my safe for last 10yrs unfinished after...my goal this winter is to revisit and get this girl reassembled and to the range... it's going to be a happy day and im feeling the pain now that you experienced on the first day of shooting that gun...nice groups and thanks again
Im probability not alone when i say that I really just can't wait for johnny to upload the next video, thank you for your videos they really brighten up my day
After bedding my 22-250 Ruger M77 Mk1 I found my go to Sierra 52gn HPBT Match load that used to shoot .75 MOA all day every day went to hell at best 1.5 MOA, and I had to redevelop. My 63gn SP load on the other hand got better by .25 MOA. My conclusion was you never know what you’re going to get, and going back to load development all over again is required.
Little trick I use to clean up the epoxy that gets pushed out is a little gun oil or clp on a q tip. makes it clean up easy and looks clean.
Wow! Congratulations J on the bedding job. Stellar improvement! Really good groups especially the last with the heavy bullet and RL 23. Really enjoyed seeing that. Do justice to your hard work and...toss that Hornady brass! Grab some high quality brass and stick with the heavy matchkings...your gun loves them. .001 neck tension is fine UNLESS the magazine is cheap with a weak spring. When bullets move under recoil and slam into the front of the magazine....bad things happen. That said yours performed well it would appear. Just my opinion.
BTW... for the barrel channel.... wrap some 60 grit around a deepset socket. They come in every size and they're cheap!
Bedding use to be pillar bedding or glass bedding not both. Then people started doing both. If you do a good glass bedding job, you don't need pillar bedding. If you have a good pillar bedding job, you don't need to also glass bed. It is fine to do both, but it complicates things because you need the pillar bedding contacted correctly or you get no benefit from it and if your pillar bedding is not the right height like the job you did the glass bedding will have you above the lug. Nice video. I like the fact you share your mistakes and people can comment on them. We all make our mistakes and learn. The best learned ones are usually on our biggest mistakes.
That fly escaped death by half an inch at 28:59
always a good day when there's new JRB content! Thanks for all you do!
You did great Johnny! I'd say your glass bedding job was a success. I was a bit nervous with my first few glass beddings. I started to relax and began to know how to work with the epoxy to make some really great shooting rifles. The free floating part is where they benefited the most I think. That 240 grain smk and h1000 made that rifle come alive! Good work!
so glad you bedded the stock and didnt give up. so rewarding when your effort pays off to drop those groups. the recoil lug is fine provided the lugs were set while the recoil lug was engaged.
some bed the bottom metal area also to give that little bit of extra stability and strength to the pillars.
sand off any small protruding bumps in the bedding around the trigger area as they can cause obstructions to solid seating over time.
a solid low one piece scope mount bedded to the action would also give stability to the action and a dependable scope mount.
ive even polished firing pin shafts so they strike the primer consistently and arent as effected by dust buildup.
Not sure if your scope has parallax error compensation, but if you dial the parallax compensation in properly, your groups may tighten noticeable.
maybe also anneal your case necks. best case ive found so far is ADI, but then im australian, so im biased
Sierra has made two different matchkings in the 200g and 220g weight. The longer length is the newer production which has a higher BC. I had the same thing and called Sierra and found out. Thanks for all that you do!
Modify your magazine. I use a Browning A-Bolt II Medallion in 300 Win Mag. for hunting. It also has a very long throat. I hand load 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tips over Reloder 22. It is a very fast round at a little over 3100 feet per second. It shoots less than .5 MOA, most of the time I will hold it down to .350 MOA. I had to mill out the magazine so I could run the bullet out very long. This gun is a beast and one of the most accurate dependable riffles and loads I have ever shot especially for a production hunting rifle.
Some new 300 win mag love. It makes me happy. Now we need to get some money together to do some 338 Lapua Magnum games.
Super excited for this series just starting to reload for 300WIN
That last group was awesome. Glad to finally see the .300 Mag grouping for you. Nicely done. Now we gotta get your .308 loads developed.
I bought a Thompson patriot because of you. Using your reloading info I went to Texas and killed an aoudad at 200 yds using 140 gr Noslers. IToo restocked it with aBoyds thumb hole stock. As of now it shoots great without bedding it but will do so if it warrants it. By the way I turned 90 , 3-7-22
Overall your first time bedding job was awesome ... the next time will be better ... the shooting today was awesome. Keep the video's coming. Thanks
I love the bug flying away at about 28:59. I need to get my bench finished so I can start loading for my 300wm again. I miss the thump too.
Great video! You now have a much more solid barrel harmonic baseline from which to tune the loads. Let the groupings decide if any more bedding work need be contemplated.
One thing to try, bed the first 3” down the barrel from the recoil lug. Your bedding stops to soon
That is a hotly debated topic that I spent a lot of time reading about. I have several stocks that were bedded by my grandfather and he always bedded the chamber area. I decided to float the whole barrel instead. Stopping at the recoil lug seems to be the most popular method these days. I obviously don't have enough experience or knowledge to really defend that decision. The good news is that it would be a quick job to bed that area, and a quick job to remove it afterward if I wanted to. I would love to make a video where I load up a bunch of ammo and then shoot the gun with and without the chamber area bedded. I'm just backed up too far on reloading projects.
@@JohnnysReloadingBench it's always so cool to see your thought process on these sort of things. Thanks again for taking the time to share with the rest of us :-)
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I taught myself to glass bed rifles, I use Brownells accuglass and always bed 3” up the barrel and free float the rest. My 300 Mag has always shot well but after bedding put 5 rounds into sub 1/2 minute groups every time.. I use 180 gr Nossler accubonds behind 75.5 gr of Reloader 22 with a Winchester Magnum primer. Might try buying a neck sizing due to help with brass life. Since neck sizing I have never had a case head separate
The bedding job looks great. Do some reading on the Tang area. Some actions like some relief there.
Daryl Blackburn
I’ve done it both ways on several rifles but bedding down the barrel has never failed me yet especially with thin hunting profile barrels. Might get away with that if it’s a bull barrel but but a pincer thin one
Man you don't know how helpful your videos are, thank you for sharing this informations with the rest of us !
Johnny, not bad. Don't worry, epoxy ozing out on the first time happens to everyone. It happened to me with my Remington 700 223. I had to scrape it all off and start all over again. I almost gave up after that happened, but I took a deep breath, and said to myself, Mama Sosa, raised no punk, now get back there and start over again and learn from your mistakes". Love your channel and thank you for helping me become a better reloader. I wish you and yours a very Happy and Safe Thanksgiving
The task was a necessity....its about time! Perhaps your 300 mag properly tasked will impress you and your followers, and it a valid project in that that mag is too inconsistent when we know you have to get rid of that factory stock to get on that road to consistency or just accomplish that task. What a show full of suspense up to and after your test.
Since you bedded this stock and didn't like how it turned out, then sanded it down and bedded it again...now you've done it twice. That makes you a youtube pro. lol Great job.
Awesome job, I just bought the TC Compass, 10077 300 WIN MAG. I was leaning towards the use of H1000 but I might ( might) give the “Reloader” a go and see what I get on paper. It’s all new, still in the box. I needed this weapon like I need another hole in my head, wife might put one in it if I don’t quit buying toys, at 59 you’d think I would stop. Nah.
I think the concept is you flip the primers into both halves and then shake them down to the bottom half.
Withstanding your neck tension your stock rehab job seems to be successful
Another UK viewer, its been to long but glad you have come back to the 300wm.
I wouldn’t bother to much about the small details that you point out with the bedding
Take a look at how the rifle is shooting that should tell you have done enough to get the best out of your Thompson.
Keep up the good work
Get yourself a belted magnum collet resizing die. It is an absolute must for all belted magnums.
You did a great job with your.300 Win Mag!
I can’t wait to see the results of this series! I have been waiting! I got one that shoots 1.5-2.5 inch groups. I want mo betta!!!
Only gonna get more betta cause you aint gonna get mo Beto!
Sierra 2231 has a REALLY short bearing surface. It's designed to "compete" with the Berger 200.20x F-Class bullet. There's a 30 page thread on Accurate Shooter about it. It doesn't perform as well as it should.
I've read most of that thread. I came away thinking most people were disappointed as well. We'll see how they shoot it my gun! Forums are just exhausting...I don't know how I spent so much time on them 10 years ago.
@@JohnnysReloadingBench The 220 SMK are wonderful for the 300 AAC Subs. Give'em a whirl
Does anyone else have a problem watching Johnny's Reloading without thinking about the "real doll" video? That was just too funny. BTW, I've done several stocks and you did OK with that stock. The Boyd's stock has the recoil lug too low and the skim coat of epoxy is fine. Also, the wood should be happy with the epoxy where you had the break. Now, you can do the 6.5 without any errors.
I will probably end up using the Oryx chassis with the 6.5 most of the time, so I don't think I will bed it right now. I need to pick up another short action Compass...I just need to decide what cartridge.
@@JohnnysReloadingBench.308!
@@JohnnysReloadingBench 22-250 should do it or 223 to compare with your AR
The Lyman All American 8 press rocks for the price …their powder measure and powder trickler are also GTG especially for the price…works like a charm 👍👍👍…great videos JRB!
Those groups are tight on the 240!!
I had ruger m77 300 win mag with 22" stainless barrel laminated stock. Beautiful rifle,would not shoot consistent groups. Free floated stock,no difference. After a firing couple 180gr rounds I would start tight gripping anticipating the recoil. OUCH!!!
Throw in some 220Gr ELD-X. I’m about to start up my loads in my Remington
Love your videos. I don’t have or want a 300 WM but I learned stuff about my bushing dies. Also, I had considered getting a Boyd’s stock and bedding it (they’re so pretty). You’ve convinced me otherwise.
That’s a terrific outcome. Great job
I have that hand primer and yeah I like it a lot my buddy has the bench mounted one and it's 10x better just get a piece of 3/4 MDF or Birch about half the size of a shoebox give or take and mount it to that the bolts are flat so you can torque them into the wood and be flush and you can then store it and not permanently mount to the table but still have the stability
I am sure the case head separating problem is caused by the Larry Willis die. I would like to see how you fare without using it with the same brand brass you had the failure. If you work the case in that area it is likely to cause failure. If you end up not being able to resize the case after a few reloads then try using the Larry Willis die sparingly to allow the case to be inserted. I don’t think it should be taken back to factory size according to my experience. I own a Ruger m77 in 300 WM and really enjoy shooting it. I like the videos and hope to see more like this.
Cavedweller 1959 has some excellent bedding videos.
That is rimmed cartridges are magnum because they are deemed belted on the inside and some blank shells aren't? Make sure they are fully lubed when you fully resize.
Love you educational efforts and the fact you listen to those that wish the best for and appreciate you and your channel !
So excited about the mk248 series. Been waitin a while for that one. Those 200+ gr bullets have to just hit like a truck
That epoxy on the front lug will be stronger then the wood. So no harm done looks good.
If the epoxy behind the receiver bothers you, and it would me, just blend some paint and touch it up.
That epoxy cleans up real nice when wet with q-tips and good old wd-40.
Hey just a pal wanting to inform a pal, but if you can get a hold of thicker necked brass, cause even in 7mm mag hornady brass has such a thin neck in comparison that it causes a sort of yaw that causes inaccuracy, I found that Lapua, or nickel plated brass is what these belted magnums love
Hey Johnny,
Can you measure the head of your case from the front of the belt to the face of the head. Little tricky both my FC and Nosler 300 WinMag cases are about 0.216". Have read sometimes the belt could be to thin allowing excess headspace. This may allow the head to stretch backwards after the body obturates to the chamber wall. Even though we set headspace to the shoulder, if the belt was thin in front the case shoulder can collapse upon the impact of the firing pin creating excessive headspace before the case obturates to chamber.
Brass spec SAAMI is .220-.008
Chamber spec SAAMI is .220-.227
Just a tip. Try Norma brass. I have had good results and long life with Norma.
Finally!!! Keep the 300 win mag videos coming!
Good to see ya Poppin in the Georgia chats👍 lil off subject here but I have some Speer HotCor .338 200gr SP I'll send em if ya got something to shoot em out of...I was gonna resize to .323 for my Sporter Mauser but that's extreme..
doing a "duplicatethe milspec loading " video would be awsome for the .300 win--- we got guys at the range trying to do the same but not getting near the velocities- from my understanding the milspec load has its own proprietary powder that no one can purchase either..
Thanks Johnny!! Enjoyed the video!
In my experience Remington Peter's is the best brass I've used and reloaded
Boyd stocks are made from toothpicks and super glue. Not real laminate. You've helped me a lot on the .300 WM nonetheless.
We want to see a series with a Bergara hmr 6.5 creedmoor!!!!!
Magnum cartridges must be properly done from head (very important) to neck. I think the problem was it wasn't lubed well enough during full length case sizing. Hence, my previous text. Congrats otherwise, your stock bedding shoes excellent signs that a big improvement has been made. You are on the correct track.... just know birds whispering to you that your stock should've been embedded was correct. I can't wait until you get that one together and get us a moose! Lol. I definitely have confidence in you and your slowly modified TC. Hope you had an excellent Thanksgiving and will have a super better Xmas!
Someone,... anyone,... get Johnny some Reloder 26!!
If Alliant isn't going to be able to import enough to keep a reliable supply on the shelves, I might as well just move on to other powders. There are too many good magnum powders sitting on the shelf to worry about the one that isn't.
Looking into VV N565 word is, it is very close to RL26 in Burn rate. Many have said same charge with both are getting same point of impact with about 10 fps faster with VV N565.
@@mark120371 I have a pound of N565 to test with. It will be showing up in some videos very soon. That's great to hear that it's performing close to RL26.
Johnny's Reloading Bench there was a HUGE shipment of RL26 that hit the shelves in August! I was lucky enough to get 4-8lb containers from powder valley, but it was everywhere for several weeks. I try to always keep it on hand now due to the number of cartridges I use it for. Backorder it at powder valley and grafs if you need to.
@@jimhans1 Yeah, I forgot about that. Moparmadman even got in touch back then to let me know, but I didn't get an order placed in time. I wasn't really shooting at the time and figured it was back on the shelves for good. I'm going to get a bunch next time.
Nothing to do with this, but I just picked up some H4350 from an academy, actually while looking for other powders, but figured I can burn 4350 in my .270 Win and save my Varget and 4064 for other cartridges.
I use 4350 in my 300WSM with 178eldx bullets. Shoots sub moa.
Didn't read all the comments, this may be redundant, but, if you shoot the 300 win mag a lot you may want to get a lead sled. Couple years from now you will wish you had.
Both Lee primer tools I have owned flip primers.
Johnny I wouldn't be worried about that wood crack in the mag well. You used devcon to repair it and devcon is some tough stuff. It's actually probably stronger than what it was before as long as you have a good bond.
Hey mate it look fine as far as I can see I have 2 boyd stocks and did all the same stuff as long as it shoots all is good 🤘
Hmmm, those 200gr SMKs might be something I consider for a .30-06 load. We shall see, once I get my post-64 Model 70 fixed up. Need to get the Lyman 17AHB and 57WJS, a PTG DBM, and an AICS style magazine before I can think about getting into reloading though.
30:39 that fifth round sounded different from the first 4... was a good group until then.
Glad you're back
Good shooting gun. Pick up a box of 190 GMM to test. Would give 60 cases for load development.
When there IS drama while weighing out charges...
It's usually a fiasco
I feels
Johnny. Really enjoy your lessons mate. Have you ever thought of testing a HOWA? 7mm 08 would be great to see. Just a wishlist for me. Thanks again for all the lessons mate.
I use the Lee Auto Bench Primer. I have it mounted to a piece of 5" X 12" x .75" plywood that I clamp to my bench or use some of that nonskid tool box liner mat at the coffee table when I'm watching TV. I like it, works well. It has a lot of leverage so it requires very light pressure to seat the primers.
Thanks for all the great info Johnny, Don't blow yer face off.
Always a good day when we get a new jrb video
Might want to let the barrel cool after 3 shots with that pencil barrel.
Really keen to see what those 200gr do
If you want to reduce the number of firings, you get on a case keep resizing near the belt. That's where it will split, and your case is worthless. Been there and done that. More power to you but the best thing one can do with any belted case is to not size the belt. It is much better to just neck size and use fire formed cases. Been there and done that. Preferably one will just stick to calibers without belts. I would never again purchase a caliber with a belted case. I shoot 7 mm STW, 300 Win Mag and have shot 7mm Rem Mag... The bottom of the case is work hardened quickly and you go and resize it too much and it splits. If you are only looking for a few resizes it may not matter but if you want to reload it for a long brass life, I wouldn't be working that part of the case. Best not to resize that part of the case unless absolutely necessary. I did have a 30 Super custom done as well. Same scenario.
Love the excitement brother.
Keep up the good fight.
My best groups ever in 300wm was R 26 and 220 sra. Same problem, cant find the powder.
Reloder 26 is always hard to find. I get 8 lbs when I can find it. I’ve found Reloder 25 to be darn close in performance.
Thanks for video man I appreciate it 👍, enjoy watching your channel keep up the good work and see you soon.
I got one of the first Lyman 8 presses.
WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!
I wrote a lengthy review on Midways sight, elaborated on the issues with the press and mostly Lyman's customer service ( or lack of!!).
MIDWAY DELETED MY REVIEW!! I wrote Midway with my concern, and they claim reviews are evaluated by a third party.
I don't always buy a product based on reviews, but I do read the real "meat and potatoes" concerns!
I NO LONGER BUY FROM MIDWAY!
What were your problems? I will be happy to pass along negative info if it is legitimate! Mine is great so far, but I'd be happy to hear what problems you had.
Did you ever section that brass? I couldn't find a video. New at this and wanting to learn more about pressure signs in the 300WM before a failure occurs.
Glad to see ya back