223 vs 243??? Which is better?
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I don't know if you ever looked at 223 wssm but that is a hot pill moving at 4400+ fps with some really impressive ftlbs out at 200-300 yrds . I watched it turn a watermelon to pink mist at 100 yards....I mean there was only a small handful of rind left, the rest turned to atmosphere.
@Kushman420tv I have very little experience with it but I know it tends to burn up barrels unless you use more modern loads...I think solid brass pills don't eat barrels as much as copper jackets , it don't make sense to me but brass must be softer than copper .
No problem
I love your videos! You do fun, down home type videos that make them so much fun plus educational information. In this video you are talking about my two favorite calibers.
I imagine an AR in .243 would be the ultimate... Uncle Sam should've used this instead of the 6.8spc
they make them ar in 243
@Ben Woodcock all though not in great numbers ar's in 243 do exist
AR10 - 243, 308, 7mm-08, 260 Remington, 6.5 Creedmore, basically any of the rounds based on the 308 case, and a couple more.
@Ben Woodcock 6.8 has been out a few years now
Big Sean247 ....indeed they do.....I have an R25 in 243.
How dare you shoot those rolls of TP. That's like shooting a unicorn if you find one. Good demo though.
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I hunt narwhals does it count as unicorn? 300 Winchester magnum. But I'm trying 338 lapua this spring
Shoot the second most expense thing (tp) with the most expensive thing (any non-762 ammo)
he forgot to say that the TP had been slightly used and rerolled by a treehugger!
I think the .243 was faster than the .223 because the barrel length on the.243 is quite a bit longer than the .223 barrel. The .243 bullet would definitely have a lot more overall energy than the .223 because of the heavier bullet weight and the almost equivalent velocity between the two projectiles. I really liked this comparison as well as both of these cartridges!! 👍👍
Both are good I will pick 243 cause it’s more universal for hunting in my state 223 is limited to small game varmits while 243 can be used for big game too 👍🏻
When I was younger 30-06 was my round of choice for deer. As I've gotten older (almost 60) the damn thing was really making my shoulder sore when zeroing it in. So I got a .243 and it's doing the trick and not beating the crap out of my shoulder.
Hey buddy , I've gotten older also . I,m 62 and from Canada , and I use 6.5x55 semi automatic Swedish WW 11 . Try it , I think you will like it .
@@johnh1001 I’ll have to look it up as I’m not familiar with that round, thanks.👍
I really enjoy your comparison videos!
Appreciate you watching bigtime Dennis!
I’ve seen that 243 rifle many times in your videos, alway shining!!! Awesome awesome rifle
It really depends on what you are trying to do with the cartridge. The .223 is well suited to smaller varmiting, Prairie Dog to Coyote. The .243 is in another class and has been used to harvest Elk and Deer. I have rifles chambered for both and the .243 is my favorite for Deer. If I need to dispatch a stray dog by our chicken coops though, the .223 is excellent.
A couple of good rounds that perform many duties....Good stuff....
Horses for courses, .22cal (223, and it's similar kin) is good for light varmints, but the margin for error gets very small when you go up to bigger game, yes you can 'extend' the potential with careful choice of projectiles, but you are still limited to .22 and the powder capacity behind it. The 243 has projectile size and more cubic capacity behind it, so you can make it spectacular for light varmints (with projectiles like VMax, Ballistic Tip etc.), but still ramp it up with something heavier (like the 100grn here) for bigger stuff. I'll admit that I don't actually own either cal., but I have a 22-250 (223 on steroids), and there is a 243 in my household. My current go to is a 6.5mm Swede, a bit like the 243 in being a good 'all rounder' but with a bit more capacity. If you want speed + weight, try the 300WSM, 180gn factory loads at 3000fps (did some experimenting with mine some time ago and got 130gn up to 3750fps at 'factory pressures' in 23inch bbl (will not give load data info for obvious reasons)
Paper plates 223 243
Great Video who tee who keep up the truly amazing work and god bless y’all
I have a short Mossberg patriot in 243, best trigger on any gun I own, little bitty groups at two hundred long yards. Makes my savage in 7 mm jealous.great video sir .
Thx for uploading 👍
I have a sako 243 Love the gun, it's been a tack driver for 40 years, my Dad got it for my mom in the 70s its one I'm very proud to have along with his 30.06 sako he bought at the same time,
I got a $125.00 Remington 700 Bdl 30.06 which I still use today weaver 4x scope
Guns never seen to wear out with proper care
It's interesting that the 6mm Creedmore, ARC and PRC are becoming popular after all these years of that caliber residing in .243
I have a 5.56 S&W AR I got 8 years ago. I don’t hunt, but it is fun plinking with it. I’ve also got a Remington 700 mk 13 mod 5 in .300wm and a 1951 marlin in 30-30.
Ty for the video 👍🏽👍🏽
Great video!
I agree with Jimmy J I’d like to have a AR in 243 that would be great now.
Ar10 can be chamber in any .308 cal so 7mm-08 243, 308, few other odd balls even 338 federal.
As ar15 223 caliber rifles. You can get the 243wincheater short mag to feed and run if you can find the upper for it. Quit pricey one i seen.
Other then that 6.8spc in 6.5grenadl is out
@@jamespugh I think you mean 243WSSM, they are awesome and work great in ar's
Try to find 243 on AR platform enough said
I've been reloading my .06, .270, and .243 with game kings for many years. They fly true and I get great expansion for deer on them here in Nebraska. Cool video Adam.
MB BAR RANCH
Thanks for watching! I need to try one hunting
Either one would be effective on whitetail with proper bullet placement but if I could choose it'd be the .243. I usually use either .7mm Rem mag or .30-30 Winchester and usually don't have to track far. Thanks WTW.
I love the Weatherby, beautiful rifle and a good caliber. I have a Remington 770 in .243 and I love it. It may not be the idealistic round for deer but it’s effective and that’s what I use it for. Great video!!
I love my 770
I’ve got an old tikka lsa55 in 243 and it is a beautiful rifle t shoot, like it says in the name light strong accurate.
243 is the superior round. Even tho its small compared to other rifle carts, its definitely a kill shot bullet.
.243 is legal for Elk in Colorado, though I do not suggest it
@@theorangevestarmy4255 true. My grandfather would recommend 308, is it good for elk? Or is .270 better?
@@elflordyt6830 270 is flatter and faster, so .270 for sure
I own both calibers n I’d still take my 308 or 7mm-08 over both of yours !!
.243 Winchester (as a "6mm NATO" round) should replace the 5.56×45mm NATO (.223 Remington) for most United States Armed Forces use cases but the .243 has, as of 2022, never been used as a military cartridge
Man... that .243 has been impressing me since u tried putting holes in the steel target. I've never really heard much on em. But they are impressive. Prolly guna have to pick one up.
I'm a 243 fan
@@WHOTEEWHO In Canada you can also hunt with a 243 not with a 223 / 5.56 So it is actually odd its not more adopted and many have won the 1000 M comps with 243 not sure anyone has with the 223/5.56.
Ive ran 243 with 95Grains up to 3400FPS crono'd and they can clover at 200 M which is like 1/4 moa
Smoked several deer with 243 all went almost nowhere and dropped a massive 187# 10 pt with it last year. Its a work horse.
Nice video that 243 looks like a force to be reckoned with
Thanks for watching Michael!
Great vid... personally I love both
I've always wanted a .243 & a .22-250 but they aren't common around here. I had forgotten about them until now. Time to start looking again lol
You know there's only one answer to that question: you need both! ;-)
True!!!
Save me that brass I’m finally having my shoulder surgery done May the 5th the surgeons office called me bout lunchtime today. I’m so glad to hear that now.
I bought a Ruger bolt action .243 back in 1969 from the Navy Exchange while stationed in Japan. I haven’t been hunting in years and haven’t even fired it in 40 years. Yes the Weatherby 243 has the 24” barrel. I love my MK V Weatherby (also bought while in Japan in 69. It’s a bit bigger at .375 H&H magnum!
In this exact order my 5 favorite rifle rounds 6.5 grendel 223/5.56, 243win, 270win 7.62x39 really like the first 4 because of the versatility and low recoil. Like the 7.62x39 because it hits hard for a tiny package but mostly because it’s super cheap to shoot lol. But who am I kidding I like all calibers lol
Love this channel! I used to use a 45-70, but the .243 Winchester won me over when I went to the prairie dog farms in the Dakotas. Man, those dogs can dance!
Thanks for watching Bill!
Prairie doging is where my .223 shines. A Ruger #3 with a 6 to 18 power scope. You don't even have to see to know if you made the hit because of the popping sound. My 6mm I use for coyotes because of longer shots and really pretty fast. Not by 22-250 standards yet very fast.
I've been hunting with the 243wssm for years awesome cartridge, But hard to find. It's almost a must to reload. great video. 👍👍
I have a Remington 788 in 243 from like 1977. I love that old rifle!
Awesome!!!
I wanted one of those rifles back In the day but the 100.00 price tag was too much for my paper route budget
I deer hunt with 243 and have had great luck with it. Dropped a big doe in my buddy's field at 250 yards with a neck shot
I dont yet have a 243. My dad has one. It's a flat shooting hard hitting round. Great video sir. Keep em coming
Cool shoot,both are getting busy!!
For varmint gun mine is a Remington 700 in a .243win and the ammo I use is Hornady V-max 58 grain
Very nice
That 58gr. is a barn burner.
Bouncing around the 4000 fps mark! I like it!!
I load 55grain varminator bullets with h380 at 3500 FPS. Fantastic load out to 250 if the wind ain’t blowing.
Gregory Hickman
What barrel twist for those 58gr's...?
I've had a lot better luck over the years with a 243. I've hunted with both calibers extensively. I've had a couple of messy situations arising from bullet failure with 223. Also, .243 definitely bucks the wind better. Both will get the job done with proper shot placement but 223 is pretty marginal as a deer round IMO.
I'm thinking I need a .243 in my armory. I've heard nothing but good for the last 40+ years.
I love the 243
@@gsdfan8455 I have heard many, MANY, good things about .243/6mm. I'm thinking, after all the years I've heard it expressed in awe, that I must own one.
if i could only own one caliber it would be .243
I love your vids. I'm amazed at the variety of guns and calibers you have. You are a Hoot!
That Weatherby is purdee!
dude I just love ALL your videos..... you and Hickok. 45 are my top 2 !!!! 🤓
I had a .243 savage axis a few years ago I never was able to get it to hold any kind of group with any different ammo. I seriously had 6-10in groups depending on what brand/type of ammo. I sold that rifle and purchased a Ruger American and its awesome crazy good accuracy. The Savage must have just been a lemon.
I have the 243 win in savage axis and it's simply a tac driver. I did find it didn't like factory ammo at all, now on the other hand I do reload and it loves anything hand loaded. My best shell is a 105 hornady A-max or 103 eld-x. Dropped my antelope last year a touch over 700 yards and it just floored him.
I've heard that before about the pos savages.
Bought a Savage 110 years ago in 30-30. same thing all over the map. Sold it within a week CHEAP to a guy who came back days later to tell me the barrel nut was loose right out of the box.
Did you check the barrel nut? I like my savage wood stock 250 bucks after 75 dollar rebate.
Just took my 30-06 axis out and it was stacking rounds at 100 yards with Remington soft tips. But not every gun can be created equal in mass production
The 243 is optimal with the 95 grain pill brother, the 223 really shines with the Barnes triple x bullet in 70 grains. Wet them rolls and reshoot you'll be amazed
Don’t judge me, but I just bought a new Winchester model 1886 chambered for 45-70 for this year’s big game season. I’m looking forward to varmint shooting with my new weapon come spring. Cost of ammo is still affordable in Minnesota, USA.
Thank you very much for making this video it was pretty cool and informative. Now I don’t know if you ever messed with the 6.5 Grendel. Would like to see a versus video against the 243. Thank you very much
Thanks for watching Scott! Have not yet tried a grendel
I wish I could come over there and let you do some testing with my 20 inch and
my 12 1/2 inch griddle.
Hey bro! Good video as usual 🇺🇸😎👍🏻
I have a 243 Bolt action too. It's the perfect deer rile hog rifle and varmit rifle. Not to small not to to small and not to big not to to big - jus in between - PERFECT rifle for all
That weatherby liked my reloads I remember that. Just be safe out there you and Paul and GOD BLESS youns and your families Amen 🙏. See you two soon I pray Amen 🙏 GOD BLESS
The first rifle I hunted deer with was a Savage 99 in .243 It’s a sweet round.
We love the 75 grain ballistic tip 243great little bullet
I like the 243. My first deer rifle was a winchester 88 in 243. Miss that gun it got stolen a few years ago.
Always thought the military should of switched to it..
I am still debating with myself about this. But for hunting purposes I am leaning towards the 243 win and for paper punching and home protection the 5.56/223 rem is the way to go. Seeing the fact that I hunt in South Africa I need something with more penetration and bigger wound chanel capabilities I opted for the 308 win. I think this will make a great comparison test between the 243 and 308 I know it is chalk and cheese but there is always the arguments around this point.
Love my 243 Parker Hale. Shot many deer with it, woodchuck too.
Very nice
You need to do this review again, but after soaking the TP rolls in water. No need to crush them flat, first. If they don't completely disintegrate on impact, we can see the sizes of the half-way through holes in the cardboard cores. You may also want to set up a second camera at 20 or 30 feet from the TP to catch the big White Cloud (pun intended) when the impacts happen.
243 is great cartridge. Love my tikka lite stainless 243win.
I love my .243. Great deer hunting rifle!
I use a Tikka T3x 243 win. What a beautiful rifle I love it and it's so accurate.
Light that TP up with a Rock Island VR 60 !!!!! Really enjoy all your videos. Keep up the hard work
I just loaded some Sierra game king bullets for my 243 I’m goin to try to see how it shoots them
Awesome
Aye I got a weatherby 270 magnum mark V that I use for blacktail deer hunting! I love it but the steel rusts on the barrel pretty fast in my safe. I probably just have a bad safe lol
I like them both. My wife has a 243 savage and its a beast. That little 95 grain bullet never had a deer walk away. And my cousin Guy has one its all he deer hunts with now. Its been like 5 or 6 years and nothing but dead deer when he pulls the trigger. So id say we like that round around here. Who-tee-who
I love em all Tom! 🤪
Well now I want a 243.
naw, you want a 458 socom
30-06, it is the most common and it has more power. .243 seems nice for shooting deer and varment though
Thanks for the links :) T
I like the one I have in my hands.👍👍👍
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Both a great rounds. I have both. But hunting deer size game the .243 shines.
I like em both
I hunt with the 6mm remington the brother of the 243 and it takes what i aim at good video🤙👍
Yes its hard to get the ammo but it gets the job done👍
6mm is a .244. I shot one for years, it’s a good caliber but a wildcat round these days. ✌️
Yes good wildcat😂it was my grandfather rifle boltaction 700 and just like shooting it 🤙
6mm is possibly a little better with longer neck- most of my .243 brass is necked down & reamed from cheap surplus .308.
The 6mm remington has a 1-12" twist. It can't stabilize a 100 grain bullet. That is why the 243 win took off & 6mm remington peadered out.
Here we were stocking up on ammo and toilet paper
I like both
243
I got a Winchester model 70 26" heavy barrel I shoot 95 grain whinchester deer season xp .25" 3 shot group at 100 yards
I use a 243 with 100 gr Hornady’s and the amount of damage it does is such I cannot chance hitting muscle tissue or bone. I always go for the vitals or wait for the next chance.
The .243 is a great cartridge. I've got Rem 700 chambered to it and have killed everything from prairie dogs to elk with it. It will keep you fed.
243 is awesome
Got me a Marlin 243. Shooting the 80g and loving it.
Nice!
You sure killed that toilet pater,
I thought that was an endangered/ protected species ..haha
See if you can find some Aussie outback blitzking 223 annumition from Australia, might surprise you, I’m sure they sell it in the states somewhere, I use them for hunting in my Howa 223 1500 short barrel, most precise bullet I’ve ever shot, and I’ve used plenty
Mossberg Mod800B
.243 3x9 Tasco scope.
243 ammo is pretty rare here in México most common are 22 308 and 223
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I use my single shot Encore Pro Hunter with the .243 Hornady Precision Hunter 95gr. and it is as accurate as my handloads. Every deer I've shot with it has dropped in it's tracks. It's almost my go to hunt'n rifle.
I have a Ruger ar-556 pistol I have a Remington 700 bolt action 223 I have a Remington 700 BDL 243 and I have a Remington 600 in 243 my son uses the 243 to hunt deer with and always drops what he's shooting at because it's shot placement of where he shoots
i have both wtw and love my tikka t3 in 243
Do people really hunt deer w 223? I have one but I think it would take a really precise head shot. I looked at your videosmto see if you had a water jug or gel video of 223. How is the soft point expansion. Cleared that TP like pulling out that quick tablecloth trick.
I have used 223 on 6 white tail deer using federal fusion 62 grain. I kept my shots within 150 yards and took either neck shots or front shoulder shots. Every deer i hit dropped in its tracks with a single shot. Legal in my area, not saying there are far better calibers to use but thats what i have.
Here in Canada the smallest shell we can use is the 224
That was a interesting video and the 243 is for different application it's more of a hunting round and a 223 is more for varmints and shooting steel and just plane pleaking around I prefer the 223 especially just for having fun and general shooting.
“You can launch these things out of” 😂👍
That weatherby is a good looking rifle
.243 far superior round WTW and very versatile, 55 Grain to 100 Grain, small game, varmints up deer sized game, but you already know that. I'm thinking of getting the Ruger American with the Vortex scope in .243 Winchester.
Soak the toilet paper in water and try that again :-)
Good idea
There wouldn't be anything left to analyze.
I love them both.....
With that said.....for deer size game the .243 with 100 grn bullets is the one to reach for!
Varmint hunting.....your choice! 🤠
WhoTeeWho!
Thanks for watching Robert!
@@WHOTEEWHO 😁
I'm the odd guy out though.....I have a older Remington 6mm (.244)
They are essentially equals. 😁
do the cinder block with them
243 all the way!
Used it last fall in Wyoming to antelope hunt. Did its job just fine.
.223 is a 300 yard rifle
.243 is a 500 yard rifle.
They will of course go further but it’s the knock down power and accuracy that matters.
Wife uses 243 and I use 300 win mag! We put meat in the freezer!🦌🥩 great video!
Nice! Absolutely
That weatherby is sweet.
Beautiful weatherby, personally,i hunt with 243,have a good one