New Zealand rugby pundits assess the Springboks Rugby World Cup chances
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- The breakdown rugby show is back with mils Muliaina, Jeff Wilson and John Kirwan, hosted by Kirtstie Stanway as they look at South Africa rugby and their chances at this World Cup. #Breakdown
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Mils Muliaina, I love your comments. Always unbiased and professional. Kind regards from South Africa🇿🇦
Love Mils...class act.
When South Africa left the Super competitions the impact was felt immediately and this is what we are seeing now. Thank you very much.
I said this at the time but Kiwis were saying it wouldn't matter. The Irish are the biggest winners in this. The URC got more popular as soon as the saffa and Irish club sides started to build rivalry.
We shoulld have never let them go. Its sad. They were loyal, but NZRU dicked them around. Hence wallabies and All Blacks current rankings
Ran off with their tails between their legs 😂
why would they let them go surely the tv viewers alone you would want SA there?
I have noticed the attendance levels in the comp are shocking. Nothing like Super 12 back in the day.
@@PB22559 Difference is there was no real rivalry between SA Super Rugby sides & NZ SR sides..SA SR sides only won 3 titles in 25 years. Water under the bridge, time for everyone to move forward & get over it.
As a bok fan, watching this after we won the world cup is so hilarious 😂 😂 ahhh what a feeling to know that the break down show will have a melt down for 4 years about the loss to the boks in the final😅😂
Me too I'm also laughing right now 😂😂😂
Absolutely fantastic. Amazing how JK and JW have gone into hiding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These guys are clown, forever underestimating the Boks. And forever with humble pie.
Ja particularly JK saying he would rather face the Boks in the QF than Ireland. Well he got what he wanted in facing the Boks but unfortunately for them it was a final and they were on the wrong side of the final.
But what they didn't realise is, and I believe this to be the case that since France played New Zealand in the opening game, and no doubt both of them would win all their other games, which meant whoever won that game would most likely end the pool stages top of the log, this meant Erasmus and Nienaber knew how their game against Ireland would affect their QF positions.
South Africa beat Scotland, who for some was an uncertain result. Would SA win? Would Scotland win? And so with Scotland being our opening match whoever won that would end the pool stages heading with Ireland into the QFs.
So SA beat Scotland which meant Ireland and SA were heading into QF. However the match up between Ireland and SA would determine who goes where.
And because the Chickens played the Kiwis in the opening match the Springboks figured they could afford to lose to the Shamrocks and probably realised it was best which would mean Chickens v Springboks and Shamrocks v Kiwis. That would mean for Rassie either the Irish would be packing or the New Zealanders. But they knew they could afford to lose. And because of Andy Farrell's situation of 17 game win streak, in his mind he couldn't afford to lose and so sent his best team in to play against South Africa. He also "needed" to win each game, although he didn't need to win each game.
He was playing to win each game, the Springbok coaches were playing to win the tournament.
Wow I’m so surprised that NZ pundits are downplaying the Boks 😂😂
Shocking mate 😂 they forgot to mention springboks is on team in rugby championship who has not lost a game yet.
@@theofilusbouwer3430how you mean. NZ beat them in Christ church
They never do
@@queyoung754I was talking about world cup mate we are only team from rugby championship who has not lost a match.
@@queyoung754 SA is the only team that has not lost a game in the World Cup 2023. NZ, Wallabies and Arg lost already, that's what he's saying.
This Malcolm Marx injury is becoming a scab everyone wants to pick on. Yes Marx is integral to the team but there are other players who can do the fetching and win us those conversions/penalties; there are other players who can throw the line-out; there are other players that can scrum (we scrummed decently against Romania); we have the variations from the line out/around the maul. The team is not useless without Marx. The squad will play even harder and more clinical knowing they have to fill the gap left by Marx’s absence. 🇿🇦
Marx is our MVP but he’s not a one man team.
deon fourie can also play hooker and is an amazing fetcher as well. yes marx is a blow, but like any other player in the boks selection, we have players to fill any position to fill the role just as well
Thank you, my thoughts exactly
Marx is a huge loss, you can't deny it.
What's a line out guys. I'm basic at understanding rugby and trying to learn more. I started watching it when got to Scotland and bought a Boks jersey to be patriotic
Thanks
I’ve listened to so many rugby pundits, but Jeff Wilson, great player and all, takes the biscuit for bizarre takes.
goldie makes stronger arguments than JK for mine
He is just too competitive, and his ego obliterates an objective assessment. In fact he is a biscuit.
@@onelokie hy's eintlik die biskuitdoos
Reminds me of a politician
Who’s the idiot on the left? He thinks Ireland won’t make it out of their group? The last 8 times Ireland has played Scotland, Ireland won all 8. The Scots haven’t beaten Ireland since 2017. He’s clueless the poor man. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
SA care less about between WCs and prepare for WCs. The smartest thing Kirwan ever said in his life.
What he actually said is that the South Africans realized that what happens between world cups means nothing, the world cup is the ultimate prize. But he's wrong, we have ALWAYS known that. It is the kiwi's that claimed world cups did not matter, since it took them 27 years to win their 2nd word cup.
Apart from winning a Lions series which NZ couldn't manage and what have NZ won exactly taking away the 2 years of Covid chaos. A Lions series draw (a loss basically ) and loss to Ireland at home ????
and the one thing id like us to change... would love to dominate between world cups as well..... thank goodness we won that Lions Series! these boys have a champion mindset.
More fool them for thinking that international rugby only happens for six weeks, after cyclical gaps of 3 years and 10 months.
He's right and I wish he was wrong. I hate that we focus so much on world cups and not being consistently the best.
The constant ability of New Zealand experts to downmean or Not giving Springboks the respect they deserve is totally Hilarious. Now only time will tell How Boks respond in the coming match. GO BoKSS !!!
Totally ... saying they'll rather play the Boks than Ireland? 😂😂 I wish we meet them again and silence them once and for all.
@@gerharduys2660I think they'd rather play the Boks, because if they are gonna lose to anyone, to them it looks better that it's the Boks. Losing to Ireland would be a bigger blow.
South African experts any different .
Eww get of here kafa
@@gerharduys2660 You don't have what it takes one hit wonders lol
The honorable term in South Africa for these people. Poese❤
Ek stem saam, net n klomp dose
Jy praat van kos !!! Skaars hier in my kontrei .
"Poeste"😂
You do realise that this is the only time that pissy little New Zealand becomes relevant? Sitting down at the bottom of the world this little pacific island that no one gives a shit about, suddenly finds a voice……and an arrogant one at that.
Vok hierdie klomp naaiers! 😂
Up yours, GO BOKKE
Genius.
🤣
As a Saffa I must say that this 7:1 bench will definitely give us an advantage, however I don't like the fact that my fellow Bok supporters are getting so revved up over it... They call it the nuclear option for a reason, it has the potential to either destroy the opposition or take us down to. If we get injuries after the subs are made then what exactly will the public think then? Let see if it's a worthwhile risk, Go Bokke!!
If you get injuries after subs are made, then one of the substituted players will come back on.
Kwagga can play backline
Ireland are lucky, as a kiwi i loved the "bomb squad" concept, any 2 of them was better to face than 80 minutes of Malcolm Marx.
Yes we can reshuffle our backline but we also playing Ireland... they ranked 1st for a reason and playing players out of position isn't ideal against no 1 ranked team. Any backline injury throws a spanner in the works, after Rassie sold fans out to SARU and the fact they leaving won't surprise me at all if Rassie throws this game, he certainly got squad selections wrong. Let's be real here he has blooded no new players, all the selections have been enforced quotas accross the board, Kolisi was never there on merit to begin with there's 1 other players on form missing out as is the case with Bongi... funny how the quotas get the captaincy, nice way to tell the youth piss off
It only worked agaist 14 men what the big deal guile and accurate kicking could blow it out of the water
Think SA have the edge this weekend, and hats off for the 7:1 split. Obviously i hope it doesnt work out, but i have to applaud the idea. Looking forward to a great game. From an Ireland fan. 🇮🇪
bealham is fit to play, Sheehan is fit, our guys have immense fitness, I think it's a coin toss.
Good luck to your team, going to be an awesome game to watch! From a South African fan🇿🇦
The 7-1 split makes the Boks' intent 110% clear! We are going to maul (pun intended) you for 80 minutes plus - come up with a plan of how you are going to deal with this!
Andy already has one.@@commentwell3870
@@SMacCuUladhyeah it is a coin toss. Just hope for no cards or ref shenannigans
I feel for Eddie, realistically did anyone expect that either England or Australia would have a single chance of getting into the world up semis after firing their coaches 8 months from the world cup. That is just not cricket mate!
Blame the dam Rugby administration of both nations!
This world cup is so diluted because there are only really 4 countries that are competitive.
Me being a Saffa, I love nothing more than being able to test myself self against the best not a watered down school boys team...
Also the NZRugby Union.They have completely mismanaged NZ rugby for years.Whats Dame Patsy there for,Making scones?
Agree last summer tour Australia performed much better. Won with Wales, lost to France and Ireland by smaller margins. RA should take the responsibility for stupid decisions such as changing coaches.
This world cup is fascinating. JK saying he'd rather play SA over Ire in the QFs. Meanwhile, the Irish fear the French in the QFs. The saffa fans and pundits are saying they'd prefer to face France in the QFs. France would probably prfer to face Ireland over SA...
I'd say no one in South Africa really cares who we play and I'd also say, apart from JK, South Africa is the team no one wants to play.
@@christoduplessis8177 Well, you're wrong. I've seen multiple bok fans and pundits state they'd prefer to face France over NZ in the QFs.
Makes sense because the All Blacks always avenge a loss to the Springboks.
QF will be tough, no matter who we need to face.
We'd like to face Romania in the QF's actually 🇿🇦
Dave Rennie was doing a great job developing a very different playing group.
"I'd rather play them than Ireland..."
John Kirwan... BRING. IT. ON.
They lost 2 tests to Ireland at home, I am sure they don't want to face them away from home.
Fozzie virus 🦠
This didn’t age well my brother 😓🇿🇦
@@muhammadkara1980 Hahaha. Well, that’s fine then. He got his wish. 😂
It seems to me that Rassie has been preparing more for a World Cup winning team with all his "Plug n Play" players. It's incredible. No other team comes even close to the depth of this Springboks team.
You misunderstand the concept of depth in modern rugby. Good.
@@ciaranoconnor4027 explain the concept please.
@@CC-om8ze I am sure I don't know how many lifetimes it would take to educate South African fan boys, and I've neither the time nor the intent to start now. If you don't get the difference between having talented players available as replacements and depth, then that's on you to educate yourself. The two aren't the same thing.
@@ciaranoconnor4027 Wow 😯 you must be a bundle of joy to be around.
You are a walking contradiction, aren't you? Calm down, the sun doesn't set when you sit down. Play nice.
This will be a fun listen.
edit: fairly neutral, well done. I am impressed.
Just a side note, images of Sexton celebrating like he won the world cup for scoring a try against the minnows is annoying
His old sexton. South africa will zoom in on him. Tackle him hard 💪 he is their best players it's all about him. Take him out problem solved. 😂😂🎉🎉🎉😮😮
Maybe Rassie put lead in Sexton shoes 👞 lol anyway if Ireland wins 🏆 it OK we an take a lose. South Africa aren't cry ers 😮
True
A small thing annoys you.With that try he had just become the leading Irish point scorer of all time,so quiet entiteled to celebrate that moment.
Really laughable how he can live rent free in so many heads,fear is a strange thing,also sad to see so many Bok supporters drooling in anticipation of how he will be smashed on Sat night,we will see.
That image etched on your brain and rent free.
I just saw the video name and already ssumed that South Africa dont have a chance and of course NZ will clearly still win 😅
😂😂😂same here, I jus knew we'd be hepless with not a chance in hell😂😂...
So True..hahaha As expected, no support for the Boks on this platform..SHOCKER!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's a nz show they don't have to 😘 your butt
Spearheaded by umunga the spearhead tackler
I swear it's only us Saffas that watch this show 😂
You could be right . A kiwi recently said they don't watch the show .
Goldie probably knows that that's why he's saying what he's saying 😂
It's a pity there are no Kiwis to balance out our outrage 😂
SA folks do comment alot.I like this program but honestly prefer Aotearoa Rugby Pod.
Watching Mils eyes while JK and Wilson tear into each other. Good fun!
Love seeing these guys go at each other...hahaha! Awesome!
Blatantly obvious- no super rugby has hurt Australia and New Zealand, SA was smart to move to the Europe comps, they definitely miles ahead of the rest of the southern hemisphere teams -
How can you be miles ahead when in 25 years the SA franchise teams only won 3 SR Cups. NZ only used then as diving bags.
@@davidmalgas5600 it’s not about the last 25 years, it’s about the state of their rugby now - and how’s that looking for you - Good chance Australia don’t make playoffs and NZ having had record scores against them. 25 years is worth jack at the moment
How can they be miles ahead when they've only won half their games against the All Blacks since leaving the comp lol.
@@user-by2hh9oe9k No one stays at the top forever mate..thats sport. NZ just currently do not have the cattle nor the coach to lead them. Get over yourself mate its not all about you.
‘Miles ahead’ when its 1-1 between the two teams this year 🤔
JK always speaks the most sense. From a Bok Supporter.
The springboks have proved, over time they are our only competition when it comes to rugby world cups
good record? apart from losing to Ireland though. @@okuhtttf
losing to ireland 4 times so you say but won 4times@@SMacCuUladh
@@SMacCuUladhyeah boks lost first ever match against Ireland at home.but won test series against Ireland at home.
Nz did one beter by losing first ever match against Ireland at home and losing test first series against Ireland at home.
Can add IRL and France as well buddy
@@SMacCuUladhin the world cups south africa has participated in they’ve won 3 of 7. That is probably the most impressive record of any team in any major sporting competition
Finally a smart pundit, thank you kirwan, the only New Zealand pundit with brains
I knew when I saw the title (New Zealand pundits) those guys they just don't like South Africa they are biased period
Loving that you are in an Irish pub
Is that Trevor Brennan's bar in Toulouse?
sa vs Ireland so hard to pick a winner for this one
First to comment. Go Bokke!!!!
11:03 - You nailed it, sir...
That table looks overcrowded. Couldn't they get a bigger one...oops..forgot that's a breakdown situation😂
😂
Does Jeff Wilson not realise that the two most disappointing teams at this WC all play super rugby? Fitzpatrick thinks that super rugby is the cause of the problem, because, now that South Africa isn't there, Australia and New Zealand can just play amongst themselves and get high on their own farts by playing expansive ball-in-hand rugby without an opposing forward pack to shut them down.
SA SR were mud..3 titles in 25 years but yes lets make it all about them somehow.
Abs beat you easily enough every year lol
@@user-eq9jv5uf7d don't tell me, tell Shaun Fitzpatrick.
@russellturner1909 don't tell me, tell Shaun Fitzpatrick. I'm just passing the information on. I don't care why New Zealand are currently s***.
Is rugby just about winning? Seems winning over-rides everything else which surely shouldn't be everything about this great sport. Surely the game is about enjoyment by players and supporters.
04:30 - I really like her naughty-looking smile😅🥰and am tickled PINK!! by Mills' face!!😂😂😂 beautiful exchange!!
🇿🇦Terrific gestures by AB’s towards seriously injured Namibian player Le Roux Malan.Much appreciated by rugby fans.
Aren't pundits suppose to be experts? Have you learned nothing about the Springboks? Kermit?
Perhaps..SA are so mysterious
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As a kiwi I’d also prefer to play the bokkes although they handed out arses to us last time. It’s very rare the bokkes beat us back to back and Ireland recently beat us in a test series.
As a South African we would love the opportunity to beat the AB's back to back. At WC's it's always a good contest. We have to beat the Irish first though😊
Just one question? do your guys think fiji can get straight through to the RWC finial?
Wish they would, but odds are they won’t. Hope they get to the semifinals at least
Everything they said about Ireland's form could easily apply to the Boks 💚💛🇿🇦
Boks are favorites this weekend.
yeah, but in reality it's about a 50/50 call for this game. Two best teams in the world going at it@@PB22559
Kick of the ball mate wouldnt put my house on any them mate draw i reckon is the bet how many pionts for draw
2 points for a draw and whatever try bonus a team might get@@eamonkelly36
So the Boks have won 15 games in a row? Tell me all about it?
JK's comment at 11:50 🤣 I was waiting for him 🤣 I really want the Boks to play the AB's in the semi's now. He is so arrogant 😂
I understand why he says that. Marx is a HUGE loss! He was never going to play against Romania, so we did not miss him. We are going to miss him against Ireland and def will miss him during the knock out stages.
Agreed,he's an arrogant clown
I used to like this show, but lately these guys have shown they just clearly don’t like the Springboks. Very uncharacteristic for the mutual respect I thought we had for each other.
Why would anyone like those dirty kafas😂
I agree!
Maybe watch your own pundits for the answer to that question
Where were you the last couple of years? They stabbed us in the back with Super Rugby. They never respected the Springboks.
I didnt get that from this recording. I think they were fair and had a good discussion. Previously Jeff has been one-sided, but I still enjoy the show. I feel like there is a little tension in the studio between JK and Jeff
JK's Aussie accent is hilarious
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think the Boks are going all out on this game. They've already made it out of the pull stages and doesn't seem to matter who wins group A because those teams aren't looking as in form as Ireland and Boks. Rassie had everyone thinking Boks played a kicking game up until the final. I think this game is similar, that 7 - 1 split is too risky for a must win match, which is why I think they don't care much for the result. So in terms of Ireland being truly tested, I don't think so. If both make it to the final we'll see the real game.
Yes - I agree with you. They are basically in the QFs already and the difference between playing France and NZ is small. So the 7-1 thing is an experiment. If they lose they can say well the experiment didn't work but no harm done, and if they win they cause Ireland big psychological problems. However, i do think the 7-1 makes it more likely they will lose, as it is just too risky - you don't want players in the back-field playing out of position against Ireland and just one injury could make that happen.
Ireland still need to beat scotland for south africa to make it out of the pool
@@leandelport6194only if we lose to Ireland...when we beat them we're through regardless of what happens...presuming we beat Tonga...which is the most probable presumption on the planet!!
Nope we have NOT already made it through the POOL stages. We are only half way there.
It’s all about the wanting to either play NZ or France in the 1/4
Super rugby need SA teams back !!
Why:
the benefits of having the SA teams in SR is they offered a different physically up front that Australia and NZ just don’t have barring their expansive game styles .. sad to see them go as they were some the best fixtures ie Bulls vs Hurricanes , sharks vs crusaders etc
There was nothing better than heading down to the pub on a Saturday, having beers and pub lunches while watching super rugby. I hope they make a hybrid competition at some point.
great point .... on the flip side they have improved the urc and irish teams by playing in europe !
I've always liked and respected what Eddie has achieved. Unfortunately, he is delusional if he thinks this Wallaby team can win the World Cup. He made a grave error leaving out players like Hooper and Cooper...
The CZcams video caption only mentions South Africa. Actually only about to 2m30s is spent discussing the Boks ;-). But they do cover a lot in that time. Saturday's going to be huge. Anything could happen. No one really knows.
They should give Eddie a Netflix special
Why get offended at predictions ? Doesn't take anything away from our great rivalry with the All Blacks. The Irish went to NZ and beat them in a series last year and are ranked number 1. Looking forward to the game.
These guys have really changed their attitude about the Boks. Especially Sir John.
🤣 It's because of the backlash he got from his comments before, don't be fooled, he's still the same
He had to stop himself before saying what was truly on his mind, he probably just wants to call the Boks cheats 😂😂😂
@@Titanium351 They are lol
Boks play within the laws,
the Abs are just bitter that our daring idea put them away, LOL
😂Eddie my man 🎉with a bonus point 😅
These plebs making SA rugby magazine look tame last few weeks.
SARugbymag makes me sick as a South African.
I don’t understand why my fellow Bok supporters get so offended by other people’s comments or opinions. I mean that’s what they think and they are allowed to be infact I could agree with them that the All Blacks would rather play us because they know how to beat us and that’s a fact. I would rather play France than All Blacks in the Quarterfinals. Let’s just relax a little please…
At last a man that makes sense..respect to you sir.
I agree! I would rather play France in the QF. Def do not want to play France in the final in front of their home crowd. Hopefully Ireland can do us a favour and beat them, if it is Ireland that meets them in the QF that is.
Because they are the most arrogant fans on Earth. Any counter opinion is considered blasphemous to them lol
@@PaulOSullivan-iy6kt They try really hard to be the most arrogant but they get very stiff opposition from Oz and NZ fans in the arrogance stakes and often lose to the latter.
As a Kiwi, this is the best SA team I've seen - even better then 2019 and 2007. They will beat Ireland. They will win the WC. They will suffocate France as needed. ABs going home in QF. Still haven't learnt their lessons from getting smashed by England in 2019 WC in Japan.
Woah!!! ABs are still in it mate! 🙏🏾 Though I appreciate the love as a Boks fan! 😊 Good luck!
I tend to agree... Boks on a mission is a scary thing and they have the best WC record in the World....and currently a fabulously coached team in top form with 2 packs. It is going to take a momentus effort to get past them this WC.
Wow. Weeellll. Thanks for compliment. It is tight though. SA has evolved from 2019 where even SA public got tired of Faf's kicks all the time. Now its different but Ireland are really good. We will see.
They have not played Ireland yet
@@thomaspollock5709and now they have 🇮🇪
Absolute favourites 😅
Someone whose seriously under pressure is Ian Foster. Whereas for Eddie Jones, he messed up the moment he left australia when he left all the big names like Quade, Hooper etc.😮
Who have Ireland played? Well in the last 14 months they've beaten New Zealand twice, England twice, South Africa, France, Wales, Scotland etc Scored 20 tries in two games and one yellow card in a year...
I'm an SA supporter - One can't ever write Ireland off, this is arguably their best chance to win the World Cup and for once they haven't peaked before the tournament starts.
Luckily for the Boks, those stats mean less than f-all in a tournament. What does mean something is current form, and both teams are looking fantastic. Going to be a humdinger
Those are very impressive stats..and I salute Ireland for that..but on the day..anything can happen..
Good team is Ireland…very good indeed! But they will be tested on Saturday…of that you can be sure!
and then Kirwan goes on to say he would prefer NZ to play SA rather than Ireland in the 1/4 finals. How does that add up ?
I agree with Mils, Ireland will go into the quarters on the back of two hard games and that momentum and intensity should help them win the world cup.
or they could have key injuries and be coming off a loss....if SA beat them...does their confidence waver and they start feeling the favorites pressure....
@@2011hwalker No, success on the rugby field does not carry national consequences in Ireland. Rugby and national identity are not connected like they are in South Africa or New Zealand.
The Aus player next to Eddie was like “Okay, if you take responsibility then put your body on the line against Fiji you bloody baguette”
Kiwis and Mils are such nice people. Who are these guys ?
Mills represented the NZ All Blacks at Full Back. With distinction I might add.
Even as an Irishman I think that the ABs would fear the Boks more in a QF. They just can't handle their forwards at the moment.
Rubbish we'll beat them and you haha
@@philchris3854 35-7?
@@eamontdmas Handled them pretty easily the game before that with a full-strength pack. No game between NZ & SA is ever a forgone conclusion. Dont believe the hype, your team definitely wont be buying into it.
@@user-eq9jv5uf7d Did I say it was a foregone conclusion? Your last two matches against top tier teams have seen your forwards struggle. That's not hype. That's the way it is right now.
@@eamontdmas Just worry about your own team mate..I fear you are about to get a rude awakening.
Haha they got crucified by their fans for their views on South Africa's team to the point where they just wont say anything! look guys, you can be a little biased but there is no need to be anti Springbok. Just appreciate good quality when you see it. SA at this point are just good quality. you see it in their performances and their innovation in the game. Hats off where its due and u'll be fine :D
As a bok fan, I think everything they said in this panel was fair in hindsight.
At least John Kirwan has caught on. The Boks are not obsessed with winning silly little 4-nations competitions or once-off tests of no consequence (as Rassie has said on MANY occasions). Those matches have all been used to blood players, test combos, refine game plans and get ready for the next RWC. Remember how the Boks even made FIFTEEN changes to their team after smashing Wales in the first test last year? Since the advent of RWC and the professional era, the Webb Ellis Trophy is the most coveted and most desired rugby trophy of all, because RWC is where ALL the world's top teams compete with their BEST teams at the SAME TIME on a LEVEL playing field. However, despite the Oceanians (once known as the All Blacks) being so "wonderful" (with all their non-important silverware), the Boks STILL entered RWC ranked two spots higher than them. How come? 🤔
Zip it COVID spreader . The facists are one hit wonders with nothing to show for the past four years . quite pathetic really 🇿🇦😞
So, test matches in between WC's don't matter ?
@@davidmalgas5600 Unless the Boks win, then they matter. Dont mind old Walt he is not right in the head.
@@davidmalgas5600 It matters, it is just not the end all and be all. Winning the World Cup, now that is a huge prize. Same in football and cricket! All the teams want to win the world cup!
@@davidmalgas5600You just don't get it, do you? Everyone only remembers the World Champions. Who is miss Carolina 2022? Nobody knows! Mist know who miss World 2022 is. Whi is the current Eurocup Champions? We all know who the current Soccer Champion is. Who won the 2020 six Nations? Forgot. But we all know who won the 2019 World Cup. Do you get the picture?
Now, on top of that, all clubs are hunting World Champion players to play in their teams. That's why only a handful Springboks play for SA frachises. Do you get the picture?
What do Everyone call SA, for 4 years? WORLD CHAMPIONS". Do you get it?
I love that no one is giving the Springboks a chance. Rassie is a rugby genius. He will love that everyone is writing us off. Everyone also saying that Pollard is better than libbok. Libbok is an exciting flyhalf. Don't discount That Pollard moves to centre and libbok starts at flyhalf.
What are you on about, who do you think is not giving the Boks a chance??? They are the favourites, they are unreal, c’mon!! From an Irish fan 🇮🇪🇮🇪
Couch Eddie wasn't talking about young Australian side one week out of fijis match. One week out he was talking about Fiji team being a walk in the park
Eddie Jones is cracking me up🤣🤣🤣 This man doesn't know what humble pie is
JK must have excellent eyesight to see through those lenses
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Ireland will put on a masterclass this weekend
It's not a good idea to do that mate 🙏,cause you might get disappointed and commit sui#### mate
It's not a good idea to do that mate 🙏,cause you might get disappointed and commit sui#### mate
@@masiyaSthembiso-kx4xr Hope you still have electricity to call your hotline.
Australia played into Fiji's strength but I thought they would fail more up front even against Georgia with how much front row attrition they had coming into the tournament.
We will see each other on the quarters.....after the win over Ireland
The Boks are just on another level right now- reasons are:
1) Siya Kolisi- the God fearing man who is as humble as can be
2) the brains trust of Rassie and Nienaber is unmatched
3) Brute strength and fitnes,coupled with sheer pace in the backline
4) We just LOVE rugby World cups! Its asif our players all step up by 30% and they just dominate
Lol can’t wait to bring you lot back down to earth
@@LeMerch That would be great but humility & Bok fans have never been well acquainted. Im sure SA entering the URC has taught Irish fans that pretty quickly.
@@user-eq9jv5uf7d Definitely agree. I mean I still remember the Bok fans getting tattoos of the 2019 world cup on their calf muscles with South Africa as champions before the tournament even started. Then they lost to England in the semis. Lol it was so classic!!! Takes a special kind of fan to pull something like that off. But yeah.... humility....
The only thing I like is has Jesus on his arm. That I respect
@@LeMerchThey redefine cockiness.
Is rhat Trevor Brennans bar?.
I love listening to Eddie Jones 🤣
if i get his paycheck i would also just appologise
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Maybe if Australia stop canceling Chistians for quoting the Bible they might find more players wanting to play for them.
"I would rather play them (boks) than Ireland" let's see how well that ages SIR.
Either way, the Boks or Ireland beat the AB’s in the knockout stages. The Boks are better balanced and have the depth, Ireland live rent free in NZ head. I look forward to one of them sending the AB’s home with their tails between their legs.
I kinda agree with Eddie. Australian rugby needs new blood. Bringing young players is risky but...a good test for these players. World level truly is next level. Be interesting in the coming years.
These prejudiced pundits suffer from some massive memory loss, probably can't face the reality of the Boks sinking them with absolute ease.. They should know better not to downplay the Boks danger factor in world cups, but alas their own prejudice blinds them.
jealous, scared and struggling with their team's form
@@glen1482 Really you bokkies got over your teams 💩 form in the championship again
@@russellturner1909 They are such an overly sensitive bunch..constantly needing a pat on the back from NZ pundits. I dont get it, I could not care less what their pundits have to say about the AB's.
@@russellturner1909 It was a shortened competition and we lost one game with a team that had not played together in 10 months. Try not to get too ahead of yourself while you're coming off back to back losses little russ.
@@CalebsBikeLife All the excuses 😴😴😴 little caleb
In August, the Boks beat the All Blacks 35-7. Right now the Boks are best team in the world. It's as simple as that.
You're number 3
Ah yes the 3 punditeers, Muliaina, Wilson & Kirwan.
Indeed Marx gave nz hell almost everytime.
His absence was felt last evening with the loss against Ireland.
However I'm not so sure if RSA really wanted the win last evening, the coaches experimented a bit too much and I somehow get the feeling they just wanted to feel out Ireland and don't care too much about finishing first in their group. Even Rassie was saying that Ireland may be rsa's boogeyman but the rwc is Ireland's boogeyman ie Ireland might win the match but RSA will win the cup
Is that Trevor Brennan's pub??
Kirwan, you got your wish except you played both Ireland and the mighty Springboks. Amandla!
Razzle has decided that a sledgehammer is the optimum tool for every job on the pitch.
In SA's last three games they have conceded only 10 points one converted try (AllBlacks) and a solitary penalty (Scotland). They conceded 0 points against Romania whereas other top 10 nations have conceded at least a try to the lower tier nations. This needs mentioning. Someone needs to talk about our defence... But then again maybe we should just keep it a secret😂
Can see the chest pains when they say the word boks :D shem
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Eddie Jones was a rugby coach mate
Will see how all these pundits carry Ireland in such high praise but I think this Bok team is going to hit them hard.
So happy my Italy jersey arrived in time. NZ aren't ready for the schock that's coming... Can't wait to see these pundits after that match.. 😂😂😂😂😂
Thats Eddie Jones for you🙌🏾🤣
Maybe I should become television commentator, then I will be right all the time😱..dead!🤧
Eddie is clutching onto what ever? Not the best team or coach. Past his sell buy. Ireland is about to get a reality check. Booyah. Lets talk on Sunday morning!!
Being a kiwi fan these guys predicted our Ab's to beat France so wouldn't put much into these so called experts.
I can bet you anything - thats Trevor Brennan's bar in Toulouse
John Kirwan wants Boks in Quarters - challenge accepted bud!
Watching back at this, how are these people the best that NZ has to offer??
What was that that she said right at the beginning? "No my hockey my"?
Maori phrase 'Nau mai hoki mai' meaning welcome back. I think
Aussie's have Rugby League and Aussie Rules, seems that is the focus... Just my thoughts!
Doesnt matter, its a team for the following world cup. They've decided the big names they had were good but not good enough either, so moved on in the hope this team kicks on to be better.
loving the tension. Nothing wrong with opposing views
These pundits are as goods as eddie mills is fine humble