New Zealand rugby pundits pick their favourites for Springboks vs France in World Cup | Breakdown
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- The Breakdown rugby show is back with Jeff Wilson, Kirstie Stanway, Mils Muliaina and John Kirwan as they look ahead to the Rugby World Cup quarter final between France and South Africa. #RWC2023
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I have so much respect and admiration for Mills. He's the only panelist that shows he's made the effort to study, understand and appreciate the rugby of the countries he is commenting on. Would love to have a beer and turn a steak with him.
Forcing Mills to sit on a panel with those other three is criminal.
Apparently Mills doesn’t eat steak anymore.
@@DanielTobinAyaka that's apparently too bad. Tofu it is then.
My husband and I have been fortunate enough to have dine with Mils, and yes you would really enjoy his company. He is a genuine guy, with so much knowledge and incredibly intelligent, well spoken and enthralling. We’ve been fortunate enough to meet a number of All Blacks over the years, and I would have to say Mils is my stand out by far.
Good luck this weekend, would love to see you in the final.
@@taniac1860 ah man, that's an amazing experience, you're so fortunate! Thanks for sharing 💙
We South Africans are not asking the All Blacks for advice on how to lose against France.
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Hahaha! Brilliant!
We already know how to do that.
Teach us how to win against Ireland
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Damn I have such respect for Mills, I love his honesty and unbiased approach to discussing the match-ups
I love listening to him he shows every team respect not just New Zealand like the other 2 at time . Come on Ireland uv got this .
Mills is intelligent … I bet he is embarrassed having to listen to his colleagues comments. 🤔
Mills is a real amazing proffesional rugby commentator. Enjoy his calm way of discussing every point
Lots of respect for Mills from South Africa
The other two is like the head in sand approach
Incredible. Every week JK proves he doesn’t watch the Springboks play.
Hmmmm he's watching, jus not seeing a whole lot without them specs😂
It's funny how they seem to think SA are the same as 2019. They have a far more expansive game now.
35-7 will break a guy 🤣
France all day
Yeah, he is something else...
Mills is somehow aware that the springsboks have something coming to France that Rassie has kept away from this tournament...Go Boks.
100% the boks took is easy going through pool without showing their hand
Which I think they are going to do now
Thank God for the calm nature of Mills. Always been a fan.
Mills is such a gentleman, big respect for the man, on and off the field
I am so thankful, every single day, I don't know JK personally.
I would spontaneously combust if I were to be in the presence of someone who genuinely knows everything about everything. I wonder if he was ever in a position where he didn't know exactly what to do, even as a newborn.
Us mere mortals are in awe.
He's actually a really nice guy ae. Met him in person in dunedin the day before the wallabies test. Great guy, made time to speak with anyone who wanted to speak to him.
agree with you, he is a biased rugby trollop. I am sure he is a great guy at a braai, but in this setting he is insufferable.
@@salemmurray711of course he made time … he is eager to talk to anybody and anything that is in front of him.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yep.... JK is sponsored by ENO Fruit Salts.......
'Cos ENO's this... ENO's that.... Eno's every f☆kkin' thing.....!!!
@@mikespencer4922 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
Mils Muliaina you are world class. I so appreciate your opinions when reviewing rugby teams and their strengths and weaknesses. One of the few pundits that is a legend of the game and gentleman on the screen. Good on you Sir !
Mills has always been a level-headed, great guy.
JK raising his eyebrows when Goldie said he measured the field and it was 4m short... 🤣 Clearly calling him out for bullshit 😂
"France so skilfull, South Africa so big".😂
Yeah, that's all the Springboks have, size. Hilarious. 😂 Surely this isn't the best that NZ rugby journalism can do?
And NZ wonder why their game isn't progressing... lazy commentary, lazy coaching ingenuity, lazy props who can't get around the park
Lost respect for this channel.. they still feeling the boks thrashing and yet when they went through a taff time the last fee years so many SA fans had positive outlooks knowing they'll be back and great again. lesson learned
Yoh that comment 🫤😂
God no. This is names. Aotearoa rugby pod is the one with actual analysis. This is just chumps who could play rugby with a lady who shouts.
From an All Blacks fan as I am sure with many other Kiwis and All Blacks fans, we'll be cheering hard for the Bokkes!!!👍👍
Don't think Jeff Wilson has ever predicted SA to win. 3 World Cups later
He is still butthurt about the 95 World Cup, he was supposed to be a World Champ and we robbed him of that. 😆😆😆😆He will never forgive us. I am sure he made some wild bet that stripped him of his dignity.
I think this panel needs a forward. Three backline players talking about forward play is always hilarious.
what a take icl
The problem I have with JK's comments about the Boks "not being expansive" is this...the ABs have been found wanting trying to run the ball from inside their 22. Teams have been able to shut them down (eg Ireland in NZ) and the ABs lost the series because they either didn't have a plan B, or they were just so arrogant to think they could run circles around every side they play. So the criticism levelled at the Boks for not "playing more, earlier" smacks of the pot calling the kettle black. The Boks play to their strengths and when they click, they smash teams - just like they did against the ABs at Twickers. In addition, the Boks have added layers to their game. May the criticism continue, because if the Boks fire on all cylinders, you will s**t your pants.
No one dares question JK. He is the smartest man in the world. He is right about everything, even when he is wrong. We revel in his intellect.
It's ironic given that he was part of a great Auckland side that only spread the ball after Fox had kicked them into a lead 😂
As a bok supporter, we know we don't play expensive rugby. Our strength is our forward power, AB rugby is a beautiful creation to be held, but the boks power is just as majestic
Mills is on the ball. Practical opinion and unbiased. Geoff and JK one eyed.
i love it........everytime Goldie opens his yap I just think of 95 and it brings me such joy.
Again, this show should be thankful for having Mills on the panel.
That non-expansive game beat the ABs 35-7 two months ago.
And we can thank Libbok for that, he creates so much space for the backs that they claim we only use when winning.
2 months ago...
@@pedenchristian3993 Have we not heard about the Mount Smart AB win over SA ad nauseum and how months back was that!
France's game is not expensive, he is priceless !
ALLEZ LES BLEUS 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
Ils sous-estiment le gameplan de Galthier XD son sourire à la conférence de presse en dit long ^^ ALLEZ LES BLEUS !!
This aged so well💚💚💚
It must be difficult for Mills to be a voice of reason and unbiased in his comments surrounded by the game's expects JF and JK. Brilliant Mills you are the man...
Cant wait for Siya and the boys to do their thing. This is where we take it a gear up, look at the last world cup, our tactics changed, game plan as well. Keep that in mind..
I don't know man, that first half was some of the most expansive play you'd see from both teams... There is still room for improvement in our game and I think that is what makes us so dangerous.
Proud of our beasts, ZA
Bokke! We taking this South Africa 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I think Kirwan might not have been watching the last year of Bok rugby
Got to agree. Out of France, Ireland, New Zealand and South Africa, SA actually kick the least. Our backline ran more against Ireland than Ireland's entire team ran against us!
I think Mills didn't see a single french match since 4 years
Mills the best out of the lot
Once again, Mils is teaching the oldies
As a kiwi I’m supporting the saffas against the French! I would rather lose a World Cup to our cousin the South Africans rather than any NH team! 🙌🏾
I thought I’d just quickly return to laugh at Jeff
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SUCK IT Goldie!!
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JK is very knowledgeable about the Springboks stereotype in his head.
"France so skillful, South Africa so big".
It's nice you let women voice their opinion on the game nowadays. 😂
Only Mills knows what he is talking about.
I can't get through this anymore since discovering SA Rugby Mags show with Keohane and Zels it's everything this isn't🇿🇦. I know you Kiwis are funny AF and have truckloads of amazing stories.
Keohane is just as terrible and a joke as this panel. Man is an embarrassment to SA rugby
@@matthewvanrensburg3824 We don't agree Mat, and I'm cool with that. Rugbypass, or anything with John Kirwin might appeal to you I think.
@@matthewvanrensburg3824 yea he is awful, just as blinkered as Wilson and kirean
@@kevinwillis6707 Indeed
My favourite rugby channels and they funny
I Just know that The Bokke will win the World Cup Again cause we are just the Best.
Mills is a Gentleman.
Totally agree. What a humble guy with awesome credentials.
Mills is like the brave band playing in the final moments of the titanic.
the expansive game really worked well for NZ against FRance in the WC opener, JK.
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Yeah, I saw.
Jk is trying to do the book report, but he hasn't read the book. 😂
Nobody is as blind as the one that does not want to see. If JK cannot see that SA has brought more variety to their attack, he will never see it. After all SA have beaten the AB at their own game at Twickenham. It was an expensive game.
100%
funny how everyone smiles when she mentions Fiji and England match
The one thing this conversation shows is that nobody is even remotely sure what South Africa is going to bring to and for this match. France has loads of x-factor and this game is going to be a humdinger.
Great admiration for mills,he knows hes rugby,thanx brother,
From a big springbok supporter,france will come up against the might of the springboks tonight.
Never underestimate the boks.
We going to beat franch tonight.
"I measured it" Hahaha, had a good cackle at that
I think the Springboks have been holding back on an expensive gameplan. Over the years i have watched many games against the French and if you want to rattle them you have to run at them and get behind the advantage line.
I hope the Boks win as well as Fiji and that the Boks meet up with the AB's for a spectacular showdown. Go Bokke!
as a springboks supporter I really hope we can get to play Fiji in the semi's they are playing an awesome game this year!
Knock out rugby is all about the small mistakes and errors. At this stage looking at them on paper and predicting how they all played previously doesn't mean near as much compared to on the day performances. Every game in the QF are so equally matched its wild
South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
JK just implied the Boks must play the same game plan the ABs played against France at the start of the RWC...And the ABs lost the RWC opener with that game plan? Then proceeded to criticise the Boks current game plan, the same game plan, that beat the ABs comprehensively at Twickenham???
04:19 "because I measured it" 😂😂 serious attention to detail
I told myself im backing the All Blacks this weekend because its Southern vs Northern Hemisphere, but this guys just changed my mind.
The opening game of the World Cup, my son already commented on the distance the kickers were getting. It has been obvious throughout this World Cup that the ball travels further.
The guy with the black hair knows his stuff the others not so much 😂😂😂
love your show so much. mike south africa
I had to rewind the pic of Wales v Argentina. My guide says Sat morning at 11 am not Sunday.
At this point if it isn't clear . The world cup is basically a Northern Hemisphere vs . the Southern Hemisphere . They using the media as a weapon against the Southern Hemisphere teams... Go Bokke
Dude with thick glasses enjoys being wrong 😂😂
How nice would be Fiji in the Semi Final
Mills made the best comment,on point.
He said the boks knows how to win
Rugby matches.
Franch must be carefull tonight.
We will see bok power tonight.
Go bokke ,go.
One thing about the Boks is that we are predictable in our game and in our WIN!
That may be the reason why you lost against Irelande?! ;-)
@@etienneherve396 You have to lose to win sometimes and also you don't want to show your full hand in the pool games. The loss to Ireland showed the frailty of the Bok's kicker and this was a blessing for the knock-out stages where Pollard achieved 100% success with kicking for posts.
One should also bear in mind that in certain circumstances (like the Boks having already beaten Scotland) that there is no requirement to put one's body on the line (and risk injury) as is the case in close knock-out games.
The good thing about opinions is everyone has one..but end of day opinions don’t win games. Can’t wait to see the Springboks giving it to the French.
Playing Your strenths is KEY
France playing home and technically as good as SA . Advantage to FR
Mills is the only one who talks rugby sense!
"No my hockey my"? Is that Maori?
Regarding the Bok v France match, the old dude with the VR goggles obviously has an issue with the Boks. The Boks are no longer a one-trick pony and haven't been for a while. They have a dominant, tough-as-nails pack but they also have x-factor outside backs. Yes, the do focus on out-muscling the opposition - rugby is a physical sport after all and the Boks pack a lot of beef. But they also have creative outside backs who can run you ragged and a good kicking game.
Anyway, one thing is for sure - we're in for a great weekend of rugby!
lol @Jeff measured the pitch. Does he measure every pitch? 🤔
As a Springbok fan I always support the AB if we not playing but man I would love to see a Boks vs Ireland final because the Irish need to be brought down a peg and the Boks have never lost a WC final
2:20 Boks are way more expansive lately than any other team except for NZ when Libbok plays.
JK... Boks did not change their tactics in RWC19, they simply had more pen advantages to play under early doors which gave that impression.
Great watching JK and (sadly) JW just choking on any compliment to the Springboks.
Would love to listen to JK uncensored. Say what's on his mind. We all know he wants to lay into South African rugby. There is a scar somewhere that has caused JK to be like this, would love to know what caused that scar 😆
"I genuinely think they can" (France) no they can't 😂 World cups: SA vs NZ 3-2, we didn't play in the first two world cups and NZ counts them, shame 😂
JK and JW surely see the writing against the wall, missing RSA teams and the quality of the Super rugby competition must be frustrating them. Should the Exodus start from this current NZL players too play in beter competition abroad Aus and NZL will feel it most when competing in the annual championship in Southern Hemisphere.
Hope Mills, the lady and other objective pundits will run the broadcasting show, as the two of them will be disgusted by the future results of those games.
France will take this. This French team is loaded and their quality is top-shelf.
And how did that work for you
Corrwct. France is a fantastic.. and yet
Aerial ping pong Mr SIR gave us two tries .
I love these 4. I could listen to you all the time
Not sure when exactly Pollard became a 9/10 kicker. Maybe I missed something
😂😂😂😂😂😂. It’s ridiculous bro… the propaganda machine behind Pollard
I think it's about kicking under pressure... Btw I'm a stormer supporter and love manie but when the pressure is on he tends to struggle
Bok fan here… we’re going to nail are kicks Sunday! Pollard or Libbock. Go boks!
He won South Africa a world cup.
@@jakedavidsons yeah, him alone, it’s not like there wasn’t 22 other guys out there. Propaganda
It seems as if we all need to sit and wait for the game because seemingly the commentators themselves dont know what will the Boks do! Either way, its goin to be an amazing game. As a S.African I cannot take the loss...
Hopefully the last week of JK and Goldie in France🙏🏻
De allende vs Danty will be interesting
As a saffer i agree with Kirwan. The bok forwards may not be able to dominate as they would like to. They will need to adapt quickly to this possibility.
I think what his saying about the Boks that we will see loads of kicking like its a bad thing well i think New Zealand v Ireland is gonna have a lot of kicking by the All- Blacks the last time the ABs beat the Boks they used a kicking game so its good enough for the ABs but no one else .
Wait and see
Color Jeff Wilson surprised, Pollard isn't starting.
Thank goodness we don’t have to rely on the “rugby smarts” of this lot…with the possible exception of Mills…JW just terrible and the rest not far behind…just so surprised that the NZ public continue to support these guys…Aotearoa Rugby just such a superior product!
All the best for Saturday’s game…sincerely hope the AB’s get the W.
Bok supporter
I doubt Jeff measured it - how did he measure it, pin finder 😂
I don't know what to expect. Marx is a big loss for the way the Springboks play. It definitely affects the use of the "bomb squad."
I do feel the Springboks held their cards close to their chests. It was especially noticeable against Ireland, where they used very strange tactics compared to the Twickenham test.
During the Twickenham test the Springboks used variations from the maul and during this World Cup, they haven't shown any of those variations. I think we might see some interesting new plays come the quarterfinals. If they do build a lead they won't show to much and keep some back for the semi's and finals should they make it.
If any of the two teams is predictable in what they are going to do it is France. Jk's assessment that the Springboks are predictable is strange. If it's true why are they so successful at world cups? If everybody know what they are going to do, preparing for them must be easy.
I agree that it is hard to predict how SA is going to play but I don't see why France would be more predictable... they have basically made a point of not showing anything on set piece for the past 10 months.
@matthieu5697 France is the team that kicks the most by far. Their set piece haven't changed much. They have shown very little variation. It is possible that they are hiding things, but I think it is unlikely.
The Springboks have used different combinations on their bench, 5/3, 6/2, 7/1 split. They have used 52 players in their last 23 test matches, and they have made 274 chances to their match day squad. They have only played the same starting xv in two consecutive games once. To predict what they are going to do is extremely difficult. France has been much more consistent in terms of team selection and game plan. The question is whether being consistent in your selection and game plan is going to be better than being unpredictable.
Heineken Meyer coached the Bulls in 2007. He won the Super Rugby title, and he had a policy of not changing his team or game plan. His attitude was that if his team could execute their game plan, they would win. He won the Super Rugby Championship, but he lost the Currie Cup to the Cheetahs, who was coached by Rassie.
Rassie used the lights and played around with team selection and game plans, just like he is doing now. It worked for him then, but only time will tell if it will work again.
One thing is for sure, it is going to be an awesome game. Ireland vs. New Zealand is going to be just as interesting, if not more so.
Really missing the father of communism
Samoa were throwing the ball about keeping it alive against us and England couldn’t handle the chaos. If Fiji do that I think they can win 😬
Just my 5 cents..........Jeff is always so sad when he talk about the Boks........Appreciate Mills as he at least give honest credit when do......Jeff is just sad af. As an South African we will always back the AB. I love the AB so I support them as an Southern Hemisphere team. Just need to show that the Boks can do it. It does not matter how much we kick as a South African team......the BIG boys will show up. Have the French forward been tested so far....well no. So the outcome I want the Boks to win, AB to win. But at the end its important that rugby wins. Good luck all.
Bokke !!!!! Well Done Manne :)
Well well well, now that was exceting from the AB's JK! Excellent win though!😂
He measured it. 😂
lol these guys hate the springboks especially JK lol... he hates having to talk positive about out boks😅
People forget that the Boks are the reigning champs and with the ABs have won three RWC titles. They know what it takes to win RWC and they take that into this game. France however, have yet to win and have all the support/pressure of a home tournament. The game will be close and it maybe discipline i.e., red/yellow cards, that determines the final result. The Boks by 5. If Fiji can get their best players on the field after a Covid scare (a big part of the loss to Portugal), they are a big chance against England.
Jeff Wilson just cannot stomach a SA win over France after they got trounced by France.
@JK This idea that the ABs style of play should be the only style of play in rugby is just getting tiring and boring now. If everyone plays the same style of rugby believe me it will get boring very quickly. Just look at other sports it's all well and good to play attractively but over time teams just wise up to the style take football for example Barcelona played the equivalent of attractive football for a while, now they are a shadow of theirselves. Let every team chose to play however they want if it's not illegal annd lets watch and see which clash of style is the most successful. We've all watched the ABs play the same style of rugby and it took them decades before they eventually won their second and third RWC's. So please enough with the lecturing, enjoy your teams style and let the rest of us enjoy what we want to see.
That woman's voice plus accent could strip wallpaper.
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