Will these players make the All Blacks team this summer? | The Breakdown
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- The Breakdown discusses who Scott Robertson will pick in midfield for the All Blacks this summer and if Richie Mo'unga should come back to New Zealand. #breakdown
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Havili should be anywhere near the jersey this year!
Wow. Imagine being DMac and hearing news that NZR want to get Richie back. Hopefully Richie says no, NZR needs to have faith in the future and double down on Dmac and Perofeta.
Honestly I think it'd be a waste of money and effort to bring Richie back... in Super Rugby Richie used a lot of short attacking kicks or runs from inside the 22 instead of clearing which worked for the Crusaders but when he came up against more defensively sound international teams it just resulted in losing possession in unfavourable positions not to mention his goal kicking which again was great for the crusaders but somehow 50/50 in the black jersey. I completely agree that NZR need to start focusing on Dmac and Perofeta because Richie was given basically free reign in that black jersey and it just never materialized and I'm done listening to Crusader fans claiming he's the best thing since sliced bread.
You would prefer DMac in a tight game against South Africa? Seriously now. We have seen Richie step up against the greatest foe but I wouldn’t trust any current NZ 1st five in the big games, they’re so far from world class it is clear why Razor wants some overseas players. Interesting how the best players and coaches, analysts say we need him back but the common tv watcher thinks we’re fine
@@andreweggeltonpresentingwe didn't even do that for Carter and Mounga is no Carter he had the chance to win the game in the final with a missed kick he would normally get that's the difference between Mounga and greatness great players perform when it really matters Mounga had ample time 2 world cups which we didn't win and only a handful of good games for the AB.s
@@Trajan2401 remind me again how many world cups it took Carter to win a final?
I would say Richie kept us in that final and he definitely was a key player getting us past the quarter final. The guy is the greatest super rugby player ever, without doubt the GOAT and I believe he could have taken that to elite level if he had of had a world class coach in the All Blacks. Foster had a rare ability to turn great players into average. As an example, look at what Penny has done to the great Crusader players.
@@andreweggeltonpresenting Step up? you mean the guy who always aimlessly kicks away possession or tries to attack from within the 10 instead of clearing it? You're getting his Crusaders form confused with his AB's because I don't remember any game he stepped up lol
You are the All Blacks jajjajaja you dont need anyone... in a few weeks you make a super player!!! love from ARG
you can win the world cup no matter the players...
good work in the sevens
@@MA-ik7ys tkank you nice to hear from a big borother in Rugby!!!
@@silviabonic5589q
You need versatile players for a World Cup campaign. You don’t need versatile players in the first camp of a 4 year cycle.
How Havili is even in these conversations baffles me to no end..he's been HORRENDOUS for years!! And this year he's gone up a level, in being a shite player. Nothing against him as person, I'm sure he's probably a stand up guy, but there's too many better options
Havili will probably play better under his old coach. I still agree though, he didn’t play well this season😂😂
Would love to see a guy like Rameka Poihipi get a call up
I suggest asking Rassie for his opinion 😂
Coke snorting cry baby Rassie? Never heard of her
Easy to talk big when your up. We will catch you. We will overtake you.
no way ge will tell them to kick goals abd vecome soccer players😂
@@RomanMauga don't forget to act like soccer players and pretend to be hurt just for a review, or take a knee every 5 minutes to catch a breath and slow down the game.
😂😂😂 We don't need others telling us KIWIS how to pick our own. We coming for you Bokkes 👊
Build the team around Dmac, big forwards game and that old school NZ point if difference with dmac leading the backs.
Razor will pick McLeod as he can play 12 ,13 or wing !
Rieko should be going back to wing where he belongs and can make the biggest impact
Why don't NZ just start picking overseas players like other countries do
Damn NZR main problem is player drain. They can't compete with the big boys with the big bucks (Europe & Japan).
Based on performance, could the NZRU save money by combining the two SI teams to help funding for the likes of Ritchie mouanga?
What’s the feeling in NZ surrounding the All Blacks this season?
Cos there gonna be some new faces in there, a little inexperience across the side
Tbh i think we will lose more games than people expect which is okay. Im not expecting razor to come out firing he will probably just be more focused on getting players up to international than winning games
The goal is the world cup. Gotta get the new guys experience to be ready in 3 years time. The losses will be great learning experience.
Richie Mounga surely partially left because Foster did not give him the keys and kept the Barretts involved and not letting him drive the ship
Its time NZ Rugby woke up to the commercial reality that top players can earn much more than NZ Rugby want to pay. Its simple economics; the NZ dollar is worth FA in the world market. Why wouldnt some one with an unknown fitness capacity be willing to accept two or three times less just to play in the ABs? It might be honourable but it makes no commercial sense.
you have to make your name before you have any worth overseas. A 2-3 season all black will make much much more overseas. You are actually cutting yourself short NOT playing for the all blacks.
@@MA-ik7ys Thats why I made the point about the unknown fitness capacity. Those guys who are not sure if they can continue at that elite level would take more money for doing less.
Billy Procter is a MUST. Hes proven he can put on the A.B jersey 👍 Great player and ill pick him over David Havili. J.K is terrible at Coaching Italy and the Blues, better as a player, so thanks but NO THANKS J.K for your thoughts 😂
Why want players back that left for money. I have tremendous respect for Macaw who never left his country to play for any other country. As a die hard All Black fan give players that play domestic the chance to be selected. Remember that guys get older.
Team selection and chemistry has been poor to pathetic for a long time, if you consider the amazing standards of All Black rugby.
9 not sold (Roigard wouldve been nice)
10 DMac
11 Telea
12 Barrett
13 Ioane
14 Reece
15 Barrett (Jordan would be nice 😪)
21 Fakatava
22 Havilli
23 Proctor (be keen to see him and Reiko on the field together)
Finishers
B Barrett in to 10, Ioane to wing, Havilli and Proctor in to the centres, one of the wingers stay on and Jordy finishes at FB.
(10) B. Barrett
(11) Ioane
(12) Havilli
(13) Proctor
(14) Reece/Telea
(15) J. Barrett
If Beaudens not getting picked who's 15 then in your opinion?
P.s. I would pick same as you did
@@artetaDagoat its tough, theres alot to like with Love and Seturo, but still early days. Id prob go Jordie to the back and one of Havilli, Tupaea or Proctor (not likely just yet) in at 12.
@@JustNate365 Nice. I would throw caution to the wind and go for Stevenson because I like attacking specialist fullbacks. Would have Jordan at FB if everyone was fit, though. Def Roigard 9
What!! QT is far better than proctor
People have short memories
Why the hell would we keep picking Ioane at centre? He has been completely ineffective and does not play centre well. Ioane should be back on wing full stop. It’s worrying that all these centres they want to pick are wingers fullbacks who can’t break the line
He's the best centre in NZ by a mile. You're narrative is from a few years ago. Keep up
@@artetaDagoat lol the best centre by a mile? His stats are the worst almost for any centre in super rugby. I think you’ll find he won’t be picked at centre under Robinson. But you keep licking his bum buddy
It was just about getting the best players on the field.
Telea, Jordan, and Reece are all brilliant wingers so Rieko doesn't need to play wing.
At centre, ALB was very average coming off his injuries last year, and Proctor was inexperienced.
You'd rather drop ALB than Telea or Jordan, surely?
@@artetaDagoat your “best centre by a mile” just got owned by crusaders midfield sitting bottom of the table. Still hasn’t scored a point all season and barely any metres made 👍 try keep up buddy
@@Scrotomus I'm a Hurricanes fan. Blues can get stuffed champ. Plus, you're a casual. He's just come back from concussion and played half the game. You need to keep up. Frigging clown, lol
Afford him? What's up with that? Sponsorship etc? Dude. Sounds like NZRU is so back in the 90s.
Damien McKenzie
Brett Cameron
Beauden Barrett
We don’t “need” Richie. Nice to have, yes. Need to have, no.
Havilli aint no 10. Hes 13 at best. The way to win is to have the best player in every position first. Then look at cover.
And you need to select the form players. Not the status quo. That makes the other work harder to keep their spot.
Lets not make the mistakes of the past by playing players out of position. Sorry JK your not the best selector. Just look at JKs Blues. They were rubbish under JK.
Summer? The All Blacks play during the winter.
Northern hemisphere based channel
We need richie! Point blank.. Bring the king home👑
He'll be in a walking frame, come the next RWC! 😂😂
Overrated.
Pick overseas All Blacks.
Bunch of punishers this lot
Theres heaps of awesome players in New Zealand....Choose Kiwi players in New Zealand. Reward patriotisim.
Havili can't be a 10 for the ABs. He's a disaster for the Saders at 10.
Mils cannot articulate himself. Kirwan is an egomaniac.
Ioane, ALB, Jordie and Proctor is all we need. Havili is not it. He's just, not, it.
Bring back TJ
Caleb Clarke should play 12
Havili is trash. He shouldn't even be mentioned in the conversation. Hes good at super level he folds under pressure at All Black level.
9- Christie
10- Dmac
11 Telea
12-Quinn Tupaea
13-Anton LB
14-Sevu Reece
15- Jordie Barrett
Christie?😂