Drawing from REFERENCE to IMAGINATION 😲
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Drawing from imagination is such a struggle 😅. Thanks Marc!
A true engineer can work even with wood. But a mechanic needs manuals, drawing board and the right materials.
Can you do a vid on how to make “organic” forms in perspective like this? Boxes and cylinders are second nature but I can’t for the life of me rotate something like a pear or make a torso look good
I think that boils down to, trying to break it down into those simple shapes. Try to break that down into a box and cylinder. A trick for the human body I've seen often is learning to draw the simple bean. It can simulate the shapes you need very well. Ultimately it does require you to slow down and work out how it can be broken down into simple geometric shapes.
It is as CyberV says, learn to draw a bean, simple organic shape. And learn to rotate that. Intact, can some blutac or play dough, and make an organic shape, and draw it in various angles. But don't learn that specific shape, learn to understand the volume of the shape in your imagination. I don't have a minds eye, I have aphantasia. But I can 'feel' volumes of liquid in my sixth sense so to speak, and put that on paper. After that, you realise the general shape of people is like hunks of organic shapes. The real skill is getting that on paper.
When rotating those forms, I think it's good to mention overlap and foreshortening. They are basically 2/4 concepts of what makes something 3D and they are a bit subjective too. but having those concepts in the back of your mind really helps. Especially if you practice these on simple sylinders first and then as the other people, break them down into simple volumes.. a Pear can essentially be one big sphere and one smaller sphere on top of each other.. so if you rotate that you can try to think of how those two spheres overlap. Does that help?
I remember watching Kim Jung Gi's stream and he was explaining the same thing.
He said 'if you don't understand this concept, I suggest you switch your interest to something else besides drawing'
Man terrified me into learning perspective in 3 months
Man I felt this
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I would love a video on how to go from boxes and cylinders to organic shapes and forms! ❤😊
First you go theory
And then just practice and practice
For example to draw hands - you learn about muscles (simplified) amd then draw like 100 arms
It's ALL shapes. When you see this, it's a beautiful feeling.
Check out Marco Bucci's "Draw better hands now" and "Draw great hand poses - tips and tricks"
His other videos are incredibly helpful too
Imagination IS ALL!
Getting there requires skill.
So you can draw anything from imagination only? If you wanted to draw a '63 Buick Skylark with your view point being the bottom of a ditch looking up at the rear passenger side could you do it from ALL imagination?
No imagination is not all. Observation is equally or even more important.
Loving the slowed down video format it feels more tutorial and calmer than previous tutorials thanks for the great content Marc
I know drawing from imagination is not necessarily as good as reference but the idea is still always so exciting. Especially with guys like Jung gi have mastered it so much.
Just to put things into perspective, i remember a video where Jung Gi basically says that he didn't draw anything from imagination. He did say he had a great memory, so he could easily build up a mental reference database, and draw most anything. Unfortunately i don't remember which video it was
People don't draw things from imagination, they draw from reference. Some people just have a better "reference library" than others. You use what you've seen, and even things from descriptions, get drawn from your internal reference in your brain.
Without that internal reference, things just don't match up. Muscles don't look like they'd be able to move something correctly, a face looks off because it doesn't have the correct general proportions (which can be a goal of course), a house looks off because it's just too narrow in things like a door's proportions etc.
Even Giger's art is not from imagination, but of certain ways things look in the animal worldm and primal human fears and nightmares.
I know it sounds good to just be able to think something up and draw it, you'll use your own references regardless and building up that reference is key (and why i suck at drawing. Well, that and not practicing enough xD).
Drawing from Imagination here means not relying on a visual reference before you to inform your work process, instead relying primarily on your own understanding and mental imaging of the object in question.
Everyone (except Aphantasic people) can create a mental image of objects they're familiar with.
But what happens when you need to visualise that object in position/angle you're not familiar with or have never seen before? For example, a human body from the view of a worm in the ground? Even though you already understand the basic form, shape and proportions of the parts of that human body?
Drawing from Imagination implies you can imagine seeing that body from the perspective of a worm, based on what you understand of what that imagery COULD be.
You'd imagine a worm is to a human, what you would be to a sky scraper. If you already have the basics of the shapes and proportions down, you can imagine putting that body and all it's shapes into this perspective, so long as you understand how this perspective works.
This is what I believe the first few minutes of this video was trying to explain.
It is impossible for any human mind to not draw from any reference at all, but our memories are building blocks from we can extrapolate larger or similar ideas. I see it as something akin to Projection drawing in Technical drawing and Engineering.
*EARLY GANG WE ATTEND CLASS EARLY*
I watched this less than an hour after getting up and now I’m going to eat breakfast and then work on a portrait that I was commissioned to paint last Monday. (I’m not procrastinating; it’s taking me several hours and I’ve been busy in between.)
I only draw traditionally before, and I dare to try digital because of you Marc!
Your guides are on-point always, and really comfortable to watch.
I record my drawing process now and I hope I can reach your level of proficiency someday!❤
Definitely share the same sentiment of wanting to draw anything from imagination, gotta start drawing more tbh.
Amazing banger video as always Teach~
Also happy easter!
Greatest art teacher ever🔥💯
😍😍😍 best teacher evarrrr
Wow thank you! You’re great! 🎉
His line quality has gotten even better
Thanks, Mark!
Helpful as always😮
Thank you for your guidance 😊😊😊 I am learn so much
thank u marc!
Using the imagination is always something fun and interesting
GANG THAT SLEPT IN WE HERE! Also happy Easter everyone
Thank you! Can you do a video on how to practice art? Perhaps a schedule or something because I feel overwhelmed learning everything all at once , been searching for a video about how to practice art all day and didn't find anything helpful , should I figure it out by myself? Nowadays I'm just doing gesture drawings , perspective and fundamentals / construction etc what to practice everything this week this month how to achieve my goal am I allowed to draw and practice at the same time?
Thank you ❤
I think it's really important you are using your imagination to create art since you can make your art with anything
Smth about this felt like one of your older videos lol. Maybe just your tone haha. Great vid and always love these back to basics videos ❤️
No I'm pretty sure you're right. I think I've seen it before too. Maybe had to reupload for some reason?
Still working on my perspective fundamentals❤️
that's the spirit 🎉🎉
The Before in thumbnail is literally my brain
PERFECT, literally perfect. Because I have the problem, I can imagine things I'd love to draw in very clear detail in my head. But I am not very good at all to transfer what I can imagine onto the (virtual) paper
I've been waiting for this!
hi marc, any chance youll make a video on drawing with aphantasia? would love to hear your thoughts
This was short but thank you
video idea: could you cover how you get your drawings to look so 3d? i aspire to have the amount of volume and physicness like you have in your art, i’ve got my basics and anatomy covered, but it still looks flat compared to stuff i see skilled artists like you draw
Level 3 dude has some seriously impressive mutton chops!
I been drawing from imagination since I was a child. IT was never hard or difficult now drawing it accurately is another question but that is where reference will help. Drawing people was always easier that drawing full scenes of anything from imagination.
But what you spend the most time will make it easier to draw.
Amazing
W TEACHER.
Happy birthday
Zero hero! Awesome guide.
Another quick and simple review of "How to Level Up", THANX Senpai! 🙇
[not as 'dashing' and with a bit more hair 😂, i think we have the same barber]
3d modelling still needs box out to make things. It means It also applies to drawing.
I hope I can get to this level of imagination 😢
Ik art path is ah hard path. I as an artist myself, wish you the best, not just you to all artists world wide, Japanese created anime, but art been around ages n ages. God bless you brother. 2024™
Professional artist: Use references!!!
😅Also professional artists:
"It would be impossible to maintain a career if I had to rely on reference." - David Finch.
CZcamsrs just say that because LEARNING requires reference and they don't want to start a debate that could damage their reputation.
It just means use references when you need to, likely when you're drawing from imagination you'll need a lot as you begin and a lot less when you're 10 years in. But in this very video he tells us to use them to xp so yeah
Sure. You draw from imagination and you've got a tutorial. But when I do it psychiatrists get involved and words like "disturbing" and "dear lord, what's wrong with you" get thrown around.
What I really appreciate is the free composition lesson that came with the video.
Thumbnail #1 rebel anime girl breaking the rules and starting outside the canvas
Thumbnail #2 diligent anime girl staring at the empty space
Hey man if you ever see this comment I have quick questions is level 3 meant to make you explore different types of faces to let’s say have more interesting shapes or proportions and is level 2 there to break down other references for level 3. Also how would this work for let’s say a gun will the recipe for it just be learning the functionality instead of a specific gun
I realized I have improved, but how? I didn't actually plan when to practice art but instead when I was bored in class I would feel my notebooks with bunch of art like characters and different poses
I beg for eye coloring tutorial
Hi Mark, I noticed that the lineart brush in your videos is a little different in practice. After doing some experiments, I realized that the problem is Opacity Jitter and the question is, what value do you usually set? And perhaps some settings are also different? Just for interest.
P.S. The video is superb as usual, we are expecting new videos about copying styles.
I don't think u can teach being creative and imaginative, it's a gift when u were born 😆
hello marc ,I hope you can make a video about copy top artist (eo58) after mika and tell us his secrets. please 🙏
is your canvas endless, or it's just a really big resolution canvas that you zoomed in ?
Congratulations on 22,000 students, wow!
Now... How do you find time to mark all their homework?🤔
Hey teach, I'd like to ask you a question, I plan on starting your 1 year plan to become better at drawing, so, would it be ok if I use references from animated series and anime to draw my glorified stick figures? personally I like them better than real life people.
I wonder why as an adult it felt double hard to draw from imagination for me
How long will it take for me to be as good as you?
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Aphantasia gang, where are you 😎
Here!
hope you don't mind me explaining, but what is Aphantasia?
@@CreativeSteve69 In very simple terms, people with Aphantasia cannot vizualize anything in their mind. So for artists with aphantasia, references are even more useful than usual
right here, guess the title brought us together lol
Yes, i can draw from imagination
Level one bruh
But I'm below level zero because I can't draw in perspective, can't find good drawing references, don't know how to use drawing references, and everything I try to draw no matter what turns out kinda terrible.
Thanks bro
But i know how to draw perspectives but when I draw it its not get good
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I have a question for all artists. I’m at the point in art where I can copy pictures and other referances pretty darn well and understand light and shadow, what’s the next next step in art? I’d like to learn how to design creatures like from world of Warcraft, and draw and color them well! Thanks
The next step is assessing and enhancing your understanding of the the basic elements of art and design. Art and design have rules which, if you can understand at a fundamental level, will help improve your skills. These basics apply to every form of art, including figure drawing under which character design can be placed.
You can find videos on the fundamentals of art on the internet, and even articles and textbooks on them too.
You can watch videos on YT where character design is explained using the fundamentals of art and design ( I feel any good video on it would take this approach).
After understanding the basics you can choose real life references or references from artists you admire to study how these basics can be used to break down the reference you're using. You can watch or read on the work processes of artists designing their own characters and see how they do it.
For example, using two of the basics of design: Shape and Line.
You can't know character design if you don't understand human and/or animal anatomy (depending on what your character is exactly). And just like every other visual object, a human body can be broken down into shapes and lines, just like in this video.
Good gesture drawing (the art of depicting figure drawing poses) is done by using dynamic lines to depict the distribution of weight in a posing figure. Great for drawing characters mid action illustration or for depicting the type of body language of a character.
Good shape and line language means you're always able to depict your character in a unique or recognizable silhouette that conveys what the viewer is supposed to surmise of said character.
And that's just the little I know on two of the basics of design. Depending on the source, there are at least 5 to 8 other members.
isn't the Level 2 Head, a simplified version of the Frank Reily, head method?
and then theres artists like me who have aphantasia and have a blank minds eye and cant picture shit in my head 🙃 nor can i have a visual library in my brain since that doesnt work and all i see is black🤷♀.... i rely on really understanding structure, anatomy and using TONS of reference.... id LOVE to see a video for people like me who cant draw from imagination and different tips for us aphantasic artists especially since most of these videos are geared towards artist that dont have a broken ass imagination 🙃 srsly when i found out that the idea of mental imagery wasnt just metaphor and most ppl have that ability i felt so ripped off and broken especially being a artist... its like i started on hard mode with no tutorials 🙃
I'm sorry to hear that you struggle with that :( Honestly, since Marc doesn't have aphantasia, I don't think he would be able to make a tutorial for artists with it - he just can't know what it's like to think so differently, at least no more than a surface level. Maybe you can hunt down artists with aphantasia and ask them?
@@hannahdeards9652 the problem is no one really talks about it lol 🙈 even the other artists that have it will just talk about the struggles and that they feel ripped off after finding out lol i think because its something that people only recently started talking about its still a limbo area and no one really knows what to think about it cause unless you have it the idea of not being able to conceptualize is as wild to others and the ability to mentally conceptualize 😅
but how do i imagine something to draw in the first place...😭
yay
I can definety do this ill just need a little help
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I’m having a problem with your art school. I payed for it over a month ago, but upon downloading the videos, I was bored out of my mind, so I’ve only gotten through the first video and about 80% of the second one despite watching them on 2x speed and skipping chunks in between. I want to get to the point where I learn something, but at this point, it feels like a waste of time. I would skip week one entirely, but you specifically said not to, so I’ve been stuck on it for over a month because I have no motivation to continue. What should I do?
No idea how the course is structured since I didn't try it myself, but I'd say at this point, skipping part of it will always be a better choice than doing nothing, you paid for it anyway, might as well try.
Like I don't know, try skipping week one, and if you feel like you actually learn things then continue, if you feel like it's too much for you, simply go back a little bit until you're confortable enough?
@@sawarinyan Thanks for the advice!
Hey Marc please show us how to make sonic the hedgehog oc characters. Good references would be Sonic the hedgehog himself for boys and Blaze the cat for girl OC's pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease 😩😩😩😩🙏🏾🙏🏾
I'm 22 now. And I just beginner .Am I too late to be artist 😢
Not at all, you're in your prime! Keep watching videos from artists, study references, and practice with focus!
It's never too late
I didn't start to draw/paint until I was in my mid 30s. It took a few years but I'm legitimately comparable to professional designers (I actually work as a visual information specialist now).
This rumor that you have to learn when you're young exists is because adults are in a hurry to feel like they accomplished (finished) something. Ditch any notion of finishing/posting artwork for a few years. You can noodle an image until it looks passable but why waste your time/frustrate yourself.
Starting out requires filling sketchbooks with hundreds and hundreds of rough sketches. If you let your adult ego get in the way or slow you down, you'll fail then you'll quit. Right now, your goal is figure out how to enjoy drawing so much you feel uncomfortable leaving the house without your sketchbook. Make it a fidget habit by not drawing complex things. Draw primitives.
In my first two years I took Marc Brunet's art program which helped a ton. I would study Scott Robertson's How to Draw then Michael Hampton's Design and Invention before Marc's course if you want to go that route. My only problem with Marc's course is it glosses over perspective construction when you need a very strong foundation BEFORE even CONSIDERING anatomy but Marc knows his audience wants to learn character art so he wedged it in early and I disagree. You can learn faster than a child or teenager (I did and I'm not above average at anything) if you can put aside your ego and learn the way accomplished artists advise. This means months of learning primitive construction and rendering, not 'you tried it a few times but you want to do tutorials on eyes and hands'... Eyes and hands are last so don't even worry about it for a few years.
Remember when people say 'have fun', it's not just a nice thing to say. In order to stick with this you absolutely cannot start looking at drawing as work. Start when you're excited and stop when you're feeling you made progress. This means drawing less in the beginning in order to develop a habit. Don't keep going until you're frustrated or you'll develop a negative association and quit. Children love drawing the entire time because there's no expectations and people praise them regardless what they draw. That's why people say that even though it's just as ridiculous as saying a child learns calculus faster than a college student
Best of luck 😁
The advantage of an adult is that we know how to practice. Keep up the hard work.😊
Thank you for good motivation 🙏 ❤️❤️
I wake up from weird dreams at times and use whatever I saw there to base the scene on
Naturally, I'm not really good enough to convey the intention most of the time, but sometimes I succeed
That's my imagination rite
Dude, there is a 23 minute video in the sidebar with 5.8M views...
Please make longer videos, people will watch them!
"He kinda looks like me" which one? 😂
isnt it meta now to draw from AIgination
TL;DW; version: "git good" ;)
Can you draw fat character
Algorithm screwed ya
How to draw a Jojo face: the tutorial
Is this reupload? I swear I've seen this video(or similar) from Mark before🤔
Paid the class fee
Third😢
Am I crazy or is this a reupload?
WHERES THE WACKY INTROS GONE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
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Why did i comment
I'm pretty sure you made exactly the same video
First!!! ❤
Your energy felt abit off in this vid, are you ok marc teacher?
Drawing from imagination alone without relying on some references is a mistake that will hinder your art learning journey significantly.
I know that because I've made that mistake due to advice from the wrong person.
UwU
I have aphantasia so imagination doesnt work for me :,)
R u a bit sick?
0 views at 0 seconds? Dude fell off 💀
This brainless trend needs to stop
Dude this ain’t TikTok
It's all ai fault 😢
@@GriffinTwoit was funny at first, but became repetitive quickly
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lvl 1 here is a complete waste of time
$390 for art school? Idk bro, thats not too little