Three-Horse Title Race & Arsenal Look Dangerous! | Fan Debate 2024

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  • The Fan Debate is back, sponsored by Sky Bet, with Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher alongside The Traitors star Harry Clark and some of the biggest fan channels in England.
    As the Premier League season comes into its final stretch the only place to start is the title race as league leaders Liverpool host treble-winners Manchester City on Sunday. Is it pivotal for the title race and could free-scoring Arsenal potentially capitalise on Saturday evening?
    4th and 5th place are still up for grabs, but who will miss out on Europe between Aston Villa, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur? And why are season ticket prices so high?
    It’s been a disappointing season for Chelsea, Newcastle United and Crystal Palace; why has it gone so wrong for the three clubs and what can they expect from now until the end of the campaign?
    Everton have had to deal with a points deduction as they battle avoid the drop, but could Luton Town define the odds and stay up in their first Premier League season?
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:10 Title Race chat
    00:28 City Xtra’s Big Steve
    03:41 The Anfield Wrap’s Abigail Rudkin
    09:56 Arsenal Vision Podcast’s Clive
    15:31 Tottenham’s The Fighting Cock producer Flav
    26:45 UTV’s Presenter Luke Robinson
    29:21 Baz from Toffee TV
    36:45 Stretford Paddock’s Adam McKola
    45:43 Traitors winner Harry Clark & Chelsea fan Matisse
    53:34 Newcastle United fan Kendall Rowan
    57:18 Crystal Palace’s Dan Cook (HLTCO)
    59:33 Luton Town’s Oak Road Hatter Jamie Castle
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  • @TheOverlap
    @TheOverlap  Před 2 měsíci +165

    Liverpool vs City Predictions... 👀

  • @miniman2132
    @miniman2132 Před 2 měsíci +3387

    FINALLY Arsenal are represented by knowledgable, reasonable Arsenal fans like Clive.

  • @MrBlonde2222
    @MrBlonde2222 Před 2 měsíci +2090

    That City fan talking as if he’s the one under pressure 😂 ‘almost as if I’m part of the set up’ hahahaha give it a rest you melt.

    • @barnaclefelching4079
      @barnaclefelching4079 Před 2 měsíci +68

      I'm worried about him, definitely not getting compensated adequately to be made to feel like that, made me anxious just listening to his nonsense

    • @riannixoll502
      @riannixoll502 Před 2 měsíci +302

      Well when you are their only fan, suppose all the pressure adds up 😂😂😂😂

    • @aaronleeclayton95
      @aaronleeclayton95 Před 2 měsíci +307

      His whole segment was absolutely cringe. "I've been pushed to the Frontlines of the Man City community and when we lose it's on me" get out lad 😂 he probably thinks he deserves a to be on the medal list if City win the Prem

    • @MrBlonde2222
      @MrBlonde2222 Před 2 měsíci +113

      @@aaronleeclayton95 haha exactly, I was cringing watching him. He thinks he’s the chosen one, pushed forward to represent all City fans 😂 what a melt

    • @AhmedKhan-hs5th
      @AhmedKhan-hs5th Před 2 měsíci +10

      😂😂😂😂 div

  • @jarnibruh8490
    @jarnibruh8490 Před 2 měsíci +357

    Heard Clive speak for 5 seconds and hes already a million times better than any of the usual aftv lot, please keep him on!

  • @rolitshindane5742
    @rolitshindane5742 Před 2 měsíci +1012

    Clive starts speaking and it's like a completely different show lol. So much more nuance than the rest speying narrative driven stuff

    • @avenellroad
      @avenellroad Před 2 měsíci +5

      Amen

    • @AM2K2
      @AM2K2 Před 2 měsíci +26

      nahh the glazing 💀

    • @anotheryoutubeuser
      @anotheryoutubeuser Před 2 měsíci +17

      Take a breath, mate.

    • @TheCurrykiev
      @TheCurrykiev Před 2 měsíci +20

      People that don't like Clive want a new manager every other loss.
      People that like Clive are usually......better.😂

    • @EthanCAviation
      @EthanCAviation Před 2 měsíci +9

      Come up for air

  • @gavinbinding
    @gavinbinding Před 2 měsíci +786

    Thanks for finally getting Clive on !! He’s a legend

    • @SAM-jc6ib
      @SAM-jc6ib Před 2 měsíci +2

      Half the fanbase fell asleep he's deluded

    • @ChevalNektosha
      @ChevalNektosha Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@SAM-jc6ibthe ability to delineate between a message and a medium is a sign of intelligence.

    • @neducationalmusic4738
      @neducationalmusic4738 Před měsícem +2

      ​​@@SAM-jc6ibif you think that then you aren't very bright

  • @johnstirzaker6832
    @johnstirzaker6832 Před 2 měsíci +2584

    That fkn City fella really thinks he's in the team lol

    • @couturecriminal8330
      @couturecriminal8330 Před 2 měsíci +80

      Most fans are like that though😂

    • @PatrickKelly-lz3pv
      @PatrickKelly-lz3pv Před 2 měsíci +26

      Is that a bad thing ?

    • @Guy_Fitzsimmons
      @Guy_Fitzsimmons Před 2 měsíci +287

      @@PatrickKelly-lz3pv Yes, because he isn't.

    • @taylo2079
      @taylo2079 Před 2 měsíci +127

      Big Steve is a city legend, plus he works with the club on a regular basis.

    • @dave93x
      @dave93x Před 2 měsíci +319

      Guys like that really are odd to me. Type of person to have a City themed wedding

  • @nameanteater4772
    @nameanteater4772 Před 2 měsíci +364

    “I’ve never seen a stadium pop up at the back post and head one in” 😂😂😂

    • @jakehowie442
      @jakehowie442 Před 2 měsíci +9

      You’ve never seen that from an Everton player either, only Origi when he scored against them

    • @TheGingerjogger
      @TheGingerjogger Před 2 měsíci +8

      Ferguson did it for years along with Tim Cahill ect

    • @sarabeeinKC
      @sarabeeinKC Před 2 měsíci +6

      such a scouse reply 😂

    • @danedwadd62
      @danedwadd62 Před 2 měsíci

      What minute is that

    • @nameanteater4772
      @nameanteater4772 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jackr54071:05:30

  • @Shozuki
    @Shozuki Před 2 měsíci +276

    Clive is an absolute class act. Need more fans like him and less AFTV nonsense.

    • @DarkKnight-np6nw
      @DarkKnight-np6nw Před 2 měsíci +9

      Amen. Clive did a fantastic job!

    • @MSAPC59
      @MSAPC59 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Clive is great but i do like Pippa in general and then I can deal with robbie in small doses

    • @numanunees2597
      @numanunees2597 Před 2 měsíci +1

      😴😴😴

    • @izzyssandpittv
      @izzyssandpittv Před měsícem +1

      Gotta agree AFTV is an embarrassment to your club!

  • @yisanimasa3050
    @yisanimasa3050 Před 2 měsíci +818

    That 1-6-3 formation behind Carra and Gary is getting to me

    • @buffywhatever1093
      @buffywhatever1093 Před 2 měsíci +6

      😂😂, I was totally thinking the same!

    • @anirudhmenon9099
      @anirudhmenon9099 Před 2 měsíci +44

      No joke that's ten hag's tactics in most games 😂

    • @daymo.youtube4936
      @daymo.youtube4936 Před 2 měsíci +7

      I hadn't even noticed that, until reading your comment.........now .... Well now it's boiling both my blood and my piss 😂😂😂

    • @finfog4590
      @finfog4590 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I’m now wondering does it work in practise…

    • @Zenfloyd94
      @Zenfloyd94 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They need to turn the settee round, not good to sit with your back to people, bad manners really

  • @bharatjain7706
    @bharatjain7706 Před 2 měsíci +188

    Finally Clive gets the platform he deserves. Best representation of Arsenal and Arsenal fans.

  • @craigbarnes5237
    @craigbarnes5237 Před 2 měsíci +54

    The Man City character thinking he’s literally part of city had me dying in embarrassment for him. Absolute ball bag.

  • @LoCoAde87
    @LoCoAde87 Před 2 měsíci +124

    Big up Abigail. Always reps the Reds well for us. ✊️

  • @raykwon7
    @raykwon7 Před 2 měsíci +547

    Thank god we’ve got Clive representing us Gooners!❤

    • @scottp4357
      @scottp4357 Před 2 měsíci +18

      Yeah it feels like they've actually invited a grown up to represent Arsenal for a change instead of Ty and that other bloke

    • @lotuseater7247
      @lotuseater7247 Před 2 měsíci +8

      yeah I fuckin hate Arsenal but Clive has a buttery voice and some nice hand signals

    • @mann953
      @mann953 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I really miss Ty. It would have been much more entertaining with Ty

  • @DoFi12
    @DoFi12 Před 2 měsíci +691

    Clive is exceptional.

    • @tombroadbent204
      @tombroadbent204 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Exceptionally boring for a show

    • @JoshAFC
      @JoshAFC Před 2 měsíci +65

      ​@@tombroadbent204I get it you want arsenal fans to be the laughing stock and when we are just normal and reasonable it's boring
      Some of us actually enjoy talking football on its actual merit not just reactionary entertainment nonsense

    • @user-jj3xn5ms2i
      @user-jj3xn5ms2i Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@JoshAFCspot on lad

    • @FIFA09King
      @FIFA09King Před 2 měsíci +3

      Fell asleep listening to him

    • @NJ-tg3gf
      @NJ-tg3gf Před 2 měsíci

      @@JoshAFC well said 🎯

  • @TDG_98
    @TDG_98 Před 2 měsíci +181

    Finally you guys get Clive on, been praying for this since the first overlap episode, no one better to represent us.

  • @francishughes3422
    @francishughes3422 Před 2 měsíci +118

    Baz is a credit to all evertonians he’s quality and very knowledgeable

    • @apachesurvival5440
      @apachesurvival5440 Před 2 měsíci +6

      great guy always look forward to hearing from him.

    • @Graeme726
      @Graeme726 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yer, he's great baz, talks so much sense for us

    • @gethinhughes8153
      @gethinhughes8153 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Guy's just in it for himself.

  • @raghavedrag1527
    @raghavedrag1527 Před 2 měsíci +607

    Clive,superb points made for Arsenal 🙌🏽

    • @sunnyb6202
      @sunnyb6202 Před 2 měsíci +2

      🤏

    • @ushmush4074
      @ushmush4074 Před 2 měsíci +3

      So much better than Robbie.

    • @wally847
      @wally847 Před 2 měsíci

      What's his full name?

    • @alexbelotti1603
      @alexbelotti1603 Před 2 měsíci

      Good representation considering arsenal are hated by all them in the room. He spoke well but should have not turned up. Make a point

    • @ushmush4074
      @ushmush4074 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @alexbelotti1603 what are you on about? Arsenal are probably the least hated of the big clubs.

  • @Greg-rv5vm
    @Greg-rv5vm Před 2 měsíci +321

    I genuinely mean this... Thank you for not having Ty on this!!

    • @buffalosowljah373
      @buffalosowljah373 Před 2 měsíci +6

      OMG.. cant you imagineTY.. one thing bad about arsenal OMG,would give a spoilt kid a bad name LMAO 🤣🤣😂😂

    • @southlondonmonkey
      @southlondonmonkey Před 2 měsíci +14

      He was on it a couple of years ago and he was horrendous

    • @superspursjb
      @superspursjb Před 2 měsíci +4

      Or any other aftv or dr sports mongos apart from mattiese he's OK 👍

    • @red_reaper
      @red_reaper Před 2 měsíci

      I swear man, I was gonna say the same

    • @streetsiswatching9660
      @streetsiswatching9660 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@superspursjb I'm sure they're heartbroken 😂

  • @ToffeeTVEFC
    @ToffeeTVEFC Před 2 měsíci +293

    Thanks for having me on 👍 Great discussions with good people 💙

    • @herpsmaltwatta
      @herpsmaltwatta Před 2 měsíci +19

      Came across well as always Baz! 💙💙

    • @librarygary1618
      @librarygary1618 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Legend Baz, big love to you and Redmen

    • @jakehowie442
      @jakehowie442 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Heard far too much about Everton just saying. Your club is run very badly and spent too much on crappy players, face relegation battle every season. Cheers

    • @FoggyEFCfoy
      @FoggyEFCfoy Před 2 měsíci +11

      Spoke well again Baz, shame Carra didn’t let you full speak your points before being interrupted

    • @SheffKhalid
      @SheffKhalid Před 2 měsíci

      We need a powerful Sean dyche side at Everton new ground for the premier league

  • @user-wj1wl1nq4m
    @user-wj1wl1nq4m Před 2 měsíci +44

    Clive is brilliant. Eloquently put sir. 👏

  • @PhilBerry83
    @PhilBerry83 Před 2 měsíci +754

    “There’s a big blue shark in the water” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 absolute tool

    • @jpa_fasty3997
      @jpa_fasty3997 Před 2 měsíci +31

      Up there with getting mauled by the tigers that one. He was sound though haha, tool is harsh

    • @BigSteveMcfc
      @BigSteveMcfc Před 2 měsíci +51

      The games the game fella and it was on AFTV 😂 🦈 I agree tool is harsh 😂

    • @barbarohelm9697
      @barbarohelm9697 Před 2 měsíci +53

      Big blue cheating shark

    • @BigSteveMcfc
      @BigSteveMcfc Před 2 měsíci

      @@barbarohelm9697allegedly

    • @FuncleB
      @FuncleB Před 2 měsíci +71

      115 blue sharks.

  • @rossrobson1045
    @rossrobson1045 Před 2 měsíci +259

    Two overlap shows in s space of a few days what a treat 🍿

  • @gomeze8230
    @gomeze8230 Před 2 měsíci +50

    Honestly love how Baz is not bothered by em and treats em like any other donny

  • @lfc3176
    @lfc3176 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Don't understand why Carra was getting so wound up, Flav was making a good point.

  • @Gyokan7
    @Gyokan7 Před 2 měsíci +398

    The Everton fan is always the most level headed here

    • @kiriakoz
      @kiriakoz Před 2 měsíci +95

      Plus he seems like a good bloke to have a pint with.

    • @ToffeeTVEFC
      @ToffeeTVEFC Před 2 měsíci +102

      Thanks mate 😊

    • @gavinstrelitz1558
      @gavinstrelitz1558 Před 2 měsíci +26

      Yeah, he's incredibly knowledgeable and seems like a really good dude

    • @N.F.F.C
      @N.F.F.C Před 2 měsíci +22

      Sensible, sound bloke. Most of the other CZcamsrs running around with big egos

    • @ashleymccarthy6232
      @ashleymccarthy6232 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Thought the Chelsea fella was alright as well

  • @olivermorning4945
    @olivermorning4945 Před 2 měsíci +365

    Baz from Toffee TV is such a smart man, I always feel confident when he speaks about Everton, man knows his stuff

    • @MarkWestHam
      @MarkWestHam Před 2 měsíci +10

      Can't be that smart, he chose to support Neverton

    • @MarkWestHam
      @MarkWestHam Před 2 měsíci

      Can't be that Smart, he chose to support Neverton

    • @wEstEgg8899
      @wEstEgg8899 Před 2 měsíci +106

      ​@MarkWestHam you can't be that smart you wrote the same thing twice. And we don't choose we are chosen.

    • @MarkWestHam
      @MarkWestHam Před 2 měsíci +56

      @@wEstEgg8899 don't take the piss, I've got a stutter

    • @Heisenmoff
      @Heisenmoff Před 2 měsíci +4

      He's a bigger clown than Ty.

  • @najabdi7481
    @najabdi7481 Před 2 měsíci +24

    Baz and Jamie are like brothers the way they was arguing 😂😂😂

  • @saulziyech9710
    @saulziyech9710 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Matisse has to be one of the most sensible chelsea fans, you can tell he actually cares about the club and not just doing it for the views and money.

  • @U.S.Outpost31
    @U.S.Outpost31 Před 2 měsíci +41

    Not since Karl Pilkington have I seen such a perfectly round head.

  • @Pdirac9
    @Pdirac9 Před 2 měsíci +222

    I do find it a bit depressing how much of the discussion around football comes back to money these days. It can be a bit exhausting at times

    • @colloquialsoliloquy6391
      @colloquialsoliloquy6391 Před 2 měsíci +17

      Also seems like the cycles of football have been paused by Pep.
      At times ,I'm just crying out for a long pass ,or any air on the ball ,that's where most of the spontaneity comes from ,the volleys , bicycle kicks ,ball juggling ,all rare now thanks to him.

    • @dukethomas7217
      @dukethomas7217 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Unfortunately nowadays, if you have a very good manager and millions to spend, the league is a wrap. Only Liverpool have beaten City once Pep started winning and that was once.

    • @thatsthejobbb8587
      @thatsthejobbb8587 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@dukethomas7217shockingly, Ole had a great record against him with united!

    • @carnivore2023
      @carnivore2023 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@thatsthejobbb8587
      Ole was and still is a very underrated manager for United.
      He did in reality miracles at times with the dross players he had in the squad.
      I find it funny how so many fans that attacked Ole a lot, now defends ten Hag with the squad he has when he in reality has a better squad than what Ole had.

    • @shanebristow1955
      @shanebristow1955 Před 2 měsíci

      So your chelsea or city 😂😂😂😂

  • @Txran24
    @Txran24 Před 2 měsíci +87

    Big Up Mattise, made some great points regarding Chelseas current position and the future under there ownership

    • @broderickfall
      @broderickfall Před 2 měsíci

      Classic Matisse

    • @niallobr
      @niallobr Před 2 měsíci

      Went in two footed on the traitor, bit harsh 😅

    • @eza9071
      @eza9071 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@niallobr well the kid didn't know what he was talking about, he was there for vibes but matisse had to set the tone right. And he did with brilliance.

  • @oliverdobson3761
    @oliverdobson3761 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Baz vs Carra is everything I love about scousers, you’d think they’ve known each other all their lives 😂

  • @CK2008able
    @CK2008able Před 2 měsíci +153

    Matisse making some great points about Chelsea. The recruitment strategy is an utter shambles.

    • @snaggiz
      @snaggiz Před 2 měsíci +4

      The thing about Chelsea is that they look like they want to do what Arsenal did but they’re skipping steps massively. What Chelsea need to understand is that there is no shortcuts to a proper rebuild.
      It will take years. Money can buy you players. But money can’t buy you a structure, long term planning and vision. That has to be developed over time and unfortunately for Chelsea, that takes time.

    • @kiriakoz
      @kiriakoz Před 2 měsíci +3

      Stevie Wonder can see that for themselves.

    • @Adam-zp6td
      @Adam-zp6td Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@kiriakozthat bloke from the TV show couldn't

    • @kiriakoz
      @kiriakoz Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@Adam-zp6td the dude from the traitors? He’s not exactly known for his footballing insight, is he? He said himself how biased he is and how he would kiss Gallagher.

    • @AdamHenley-gu6ux
      @AdamHenley-gu6ux Před 2 měsíci +3

      He was absolutely spot on with everything he said. The inexperience of the boardroom is the single biggest issue at the club.

  • @avenellroad
    @avenellroad Před 2 měsíci +34

    Spurs guy knowing his own club and sitting next to United and Chelsea fans saying it's normal for Arteta to spend 600m and producing a good side and a proper culture.

    • @HerkulesNorsk
      @HerkulesNorsk Před 2 měsíci +2

      Net spend talk on transfers is also kinda stupid in this.
      The latest reports from Swiss Ramble shows how important the wage comes into hand also.

  • @ashh9666
    @ashh9666 Před 2 měsíci +23

    Getting Clive on instead of the usual was an incredible decision

  • @jackiemukolwe9122
    @jackiemukolwe9122 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Clive that was brilliant, you represented Arsenal very well. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @nishantverma9225
    @nishantverma9225 Před 2 měsíci +87

    CLIVE! ArsenalVision represent 💪💪

  • @rigsby1454
    @rigsby1454 Před 2 měsíci +142

    Good to see Clive with Arsenal. Great guy

  • @MichaelJWake95
    @MichaelJWake95 Před 2 měsíci +75

    Please don’t put ‘celebs’ on here. How can the winner of traitors be the representative for Chelsea. Provided no knowledge whatsoever.

    • @marlonblade007
      @marlonblade007 Před 2 měsíci +4

      🚨 PLUS SPOILER ALERT 🚨😂

    • @SwiftyLadCod
      @SwiftyLadCod Před 2 měsíci +18

      And still talks more sense than Rory Jennings lol

    • @KlinsmannsMullet
      @KlinsmannsMullet Před 2 měsíci +8

      Embarrassing team, embarrassing representation

    • @Zackla245
      @Zackla245 Před 2 měsíci +25

      I think Matisse spoke really well. Great points and knowledge. That kid however....

    • @otey7326
      @otey7326 Před měsícem +1

      He was obviously massively out of his depth. A childs take on a football club

  • @josephfinney9039
    @josephfinney9039 Před 2 měsíci +173

    Big blue shark is more like 115 piranhas.

    • @marcus-sky
      @marcus-sky Před 2 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂

    • @amfitness5598
      @amfitness5598 Před 2 měsíci

      I understood that reference 😂

    • @Abomination555
      @Abomination555 Před 2 měsíci

      Jealous much??

    • @alex3760
      @alex3760 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Joseph is the most average & basic name there is, that's probably how your freidns & family look at you: Average

    • @jakerose7288
      @jakerose7288 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@alex3760. *Friends.

  • @astb01
    @astb01 Před 2 měsíci +31

    Any movement on the 115+ charges against City? Seems rich (no pun intended) to be harsh on Everton and Nottingham Forest and yet not even charge City for any of the 115+ up to now. Just gives City time to brush things under the carpet, burn accounts or send brown envelopes 🤔

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 Před 2 měsíci +3

      They have been charged already. The difference is city, as yet, haven't been found guilty of any of those 115.
      Everton admitted they were guilty!

    • @SGR166
      @SGR166 Před 2 měsíci +1

      115 charges takes a long time to go through

    • @Kingofthekop1
      @Kingofthekop1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@SGR166Yeah sure it does, The brown envelopes have already been handed out. This delay is just a smokescreen.

  • @msgg6887
    @msgg6887 Před 2 měsíci +145

    What a week. 1st Ole now this. Keep em coming best thing to watch on route to work❤

    • @123bwlch
      @123bwlch Před 2 měsíci +1

      I suspect lot of "accounts" here falsley hyping this forum. Without Roy Keane it's just less interesting.

    • @charlielad6124
      @charlielad6124 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​@@123bwlch Keane too expensive to have him twice in one week.

    • @YusufEbr
      @YusufEbr Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@123bwlchas a United supporter, Keanes an absolute gem but you need a break from them to appreciate them but this is a different forum to appreciate as well. It's quite nice to hear supporters speak out and being their narrative forward.

    • @16ozClawHammer
      @16ozClawHammer Před 2 měsíci

      I hope you're not employed as a teacher if you think 'on route' is a thing.

    • @msgg6887
      @msgg6887 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@16ozClawHammer, thanks for the support ❤

  • @CaniSports
    @CaniSports Před 2 měsíci +7

    Lads its a nice calm lovely listen each time until that loud into/transition music comes on with the graphic. Lets get that right please

  • @baberkhattak
    @baberkhattak Před 2 měsíci +16

    My god . Clive ..wow . Thank you for bringing proper arsenal fans on

  • @MrFooFighter13
    @MrFooFighter13 Před 2 měsíci +8

    The talk around United is always over the top. Sacking ETH would be ludicrous. Half of the players he signed aren't even available. Liverpool lost Van Dijk and finished 5th.

  • @jamiiiedee3196
    @jamiiiedee3196 Před 2 měsíci +129

    I thought that Man City fan died in season 8 of game of thrones

    • @adzm1987
      @adzm1987 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Hold the door 🚪 😂😂

    • @SteveAustin-zv1nn
      @SteveAustin-zv1nn Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@adzm1987He's on about Varys not Holdor.
      Also, there was no season 8.

    • @RedDevilDog1207
      @RedDevilDog1207 Před 2 měsíci

      😂

    • @grahamyoung2052
      @grahamyoung2052 Před 2 měsíci

      😂 that’s hilarious. There is a season 8 of Game of Thrones

    • @paulclarke4776
      @paulclarke4776 Před 2 měsíci

      Oi.... Don't talk bout our Phil or Grant be round to sort you out! 😂

  • @richardsowards6020
    @richardsowards6020 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Flav and other fans love to throw around how much Arsenal have spent under Mikel but never mention their own clubs. Since 20/21 according to Transfermarkt Chelsea are top with €1.44B, City 2nd with €726M, Arsenal 3rd w/€674M, United 4th €671, Spurs 5th €656, Newcastle 6th €507M, Liverpool 7th €485M, West Ham 8th €460M. Villa, Wolves and Leeds are the next in line. This isn’t net but still shows Spurs aren’t far behind Arsenal in loosing their purse strings.

    • @shettynischith77
      @shettynischith77 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Apparently for Flav everything resets after a new managers comes in

    • @chrismakesmusic2110
      @chrismakesmusic2110 Před 2 měsíci +3

      What he's pointing out is that Spurs' spending is actually in line with the rules to the point where they can still spend 600 million plus without being near the ffp threshold. Arsenal have made one of the biggest losses and been one of the biggest spenders over the past 3 seasons, so they should be winning titles. I wouldn't be surprised to see them have to make some big sales over the next couple years if they don't start winning things.

    • @shettynischith77
      @shettynischith77 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@chrismakesmusic2110 how can they spend 600 mil over their limit? Is there is source? Have they seriously cashflowed paying off the stadium so easily?

    • @losgalacticos9066
      @losgalacticos9066 Před 2 měsíci

      @@chrismakesmusic2110utter nonsense. Arsenal actually won a trophy under arteta and the they started to spend. Besides, the likes of Leicester and West Ham have won trophies while spurs have outspent them and finish 8th lol

    • @alawesy
      @alawesy Před 2 měsíci +1

      Transfer fees is one thing but look at the wage bills, you will see an absolute chasm between the Spurs figures and the rest of the top 6.

  • @Majoka_02
    @Majoka_02 Před 2 měsíci +23

    Watched this because I saw Clive there. COYG!

  • @zane93mk88
    @zane93mk88 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Flav’s initial point was that because selling academy players is more lucrative than selling player that have been purchased it incentives clubs to play academy players. It’s a shame that academy products are tools in a profit vs loss statement but at least the current model encourages clubs to take a chance on them. COYG

    • @ZZZ77-
      @ZZZ77- Před 2 měsíci

      TBF he has said before that it would be a bad decision for Chelsea to sell Gallagher

  • @stretchystretch269
    @stretchystretch269 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I remember Torquay playing Luton look at them now love the style fight and Rob Edwards seems top coach

  • @nadz4627
    @nadz4627 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Don't bring those AFTV lot on again, Clive was brilliant!

  • @laclaude1234
    @laclaude1234 Před 2 měsíci +93

    Matisse is on point. Well spoken man.

    • @chrisbailey4719
      @chrisbailey4719 Před 2 měsíci

      uncertaincy isnt a word. Should have stayed in Uni lol

    • @daireoreilly2548
      @daireoreilly2548 Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@chrisbailey4719 I’m sure you’d never make that mistake if you ever get to appear on anything of substance but we’ll never know

    • @dwayneterence7456
      @dwayneterence7456 Před měsícem

      ​@@chrisbailey4719😂😅

  • @georgestone4544
    @georgestone4544 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Clive’s a class act. From a neutral

  • @alphomega2459
    @alphomega2459 Před 2 měsíci +47

    “I hate Arsenal as much as I love Tottenham” that’s kinda sad really 😂

    • @apachesurvival5440
      @apachesurvival5440 Před 2 měsíci +7

      not really I hate rangers as much as i love celtic.

    • @asherneyland8950
      @asherneyland8950 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@apachesurvival5440bit more exterior motive with Celtic rangers tbf, religion etc

    • @apachesurvival5440
      @apachesurvival5440 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @asherneyland8950 yeah I mean noones really religious in scotland these days the divides more political/ethnic. Scottish unionists rangers/descendants of Irish immigrants celtic. The sectarian divide isn't as potent as it used to be but the hatred is still real 😄

  • @user-ks5uq8wr8h
    @user-ks5uq8wr8h Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is a great thing to watch. I like JC and GN together, and the opinion of the fans. It's a great show. Nice job, thank you!

  • @3bladeninja21
    @3bladeninja21 Před 2 měsíci +63

    Never seen this Arsenal but he speaks well. Great rep

    • @lebowski6061
      @lebowski6061 Před 2 měsíci +15

      He’s one of the main guys on Arsenal Vision Podcast, which is a bloody great pod!

    • @jimfox1477
      @jimfox1477 Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@lebowski6061Yep Arsenal vision pod is fantastic, it put AFTV to shame

    • @ollie63m
      @ollie63m Před 2 měsíci +1

      AFTV is just full of clowns. Robbie the only likeable one 😂

  • @komoleeray687
    @komoleeray687 Před 2 měsíci +61

    Clive is an absolute podcast legend. Even in this environment with all the usual noisy muppets ( including the 2 big muppets hosting the show) , Clive has a way of drawing everyone into his softly spoken intelligent analysis , warm smile .,disarming the empty meat-headed pontificating we usually get from some of the fans on show here...A far better representative for Arsenal on this show , than the AFTV mob.... Arsenal Vision forever ♥💪

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 Před 2 měsíci

      And they call us arrogant!

    • @SonOfChelsea
      @SonOfChelsea Před 2 měsíci +1

      Really refreshing to see

    • @LoCoAde87
      @LoCoAde87 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@gillie-monger3394He is in the minority. Arsenal fans are largely arrogant AF. You lot are talking about Saliba being better than prime Van Dijk after 3 games last season. Artera being better than Klopp, when the former has nearly spent as much in half the time Klopp has.

    • @sidharthnair3641
      @sidharthnair3641 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@LoCoAde87 says the team which talks about Klopp being better than Pep and some fake "City Pool" narrative when they have absolutely won thrice your honours.

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sidharthnair3641 Er I'm a Liverpool supporter you plumb 😅

  • @NORTHATLANTICBOY
    @NORTHATLANTICBOY Před 2 měsíci +4

    Thank you Baz for fighting our corner, you're a great ambassador for us beleaguered Evertonians!

  • @jddrummy37
    @jddrummy37 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Can’t believe they got Nicholas Otamendi on and didn’t realise he was a Villa supporter 😮😂

  • @mwlumi3d
    @mwlumi3d Před 2 měsíci +64

    Flav spent most of his Spurs segment obsessing about Arsenal.. genuinely twisted human

    • @LumiCraft
      @LumiCraft Před 2 měsíci +16

      That is the majority of Tottenham fans tbh. Obssessed with us but we couldn't give the slightest about Spurs.

    • @alexwatson6946
      @alexwatson6946 Před 2 měsíci +10

      And yet you’re all talking about spurs?? Being hypocritical as usual 😂

    • @partypoppers1988
      @partypoppers1988 Před 2 měsíci +8

      ​@@alexwatson6946Talking about how embarrassing Spurs fans are with being so obsessed over Arsenal is slightly different to that...

    • @williamwallace1097
      @williamwallace1097 Před 2 měsíci +11

      He's a right knob to be fair

    • @cowboyorangesoda8408
      @cowboyorangesoda8408 Před 2 měsíci +8

      He seems so biased that you can't really take anything he says seriously

  • @ruarimcgeoch3630
    @ruarimcgeoch3630 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Carragher says he felt that, under the former regime, Man United managers can do what they want. Was this recorded before he spoke to Ole? Ole confirmed that he wanted Haaland on 3 separate occasions and was told no.

  • @watteffer
    @watteffer Před 2 měsíci +3

    The answer to selling academy players to abide by profit and sustainability rules is to require a number of academy players for the squad registration, not just homegrown in the nation but homegrown at that club. This balances the scales; clubs will be incentivised to put money into youth setup both for profit and for being apart of the 25 man squad.

  • @hnaku8748
    @hnaku8748 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Might as well have only had Matisse for the Chelsea bit. The other bloke offered nothing apart from maybe a bit of scent.

  • @JackoLid
    @JackoLid Před 2 měsíci +44

    Need a Carragher, neville and baz show!

  • @londonladxxx
    @londonladxxx Před 2 měsíci +5

    The United injury situation should have been mentioned people seem to ignore that the first team has only played about 3 times this season

  • @ggates2500
    @ggates2500 Před 2 měsíci

    Great stuff as always.
    Sheer idiocy to have the promo music screaming at us like that haha. Figure it out.

  • @Creative90467
    @Creative90467 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Honestly please bring clive back this guy represents most real Arsenal fans

  • @GezOfRez17
    @GezOfRez17 Před 2 měsíci +57

    Baz smashed it yet again 👏

  • @niallhoran4896
    @niallhoran4896 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Could listen to this kind of format for about 8 hours!
    Brilliant

  • @douglashunter6033
    @douglashunter6033 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I was paying $800 per ticket for Inter Miami for 2 years. Messi etc came and they almost drippled the prices. I did not renew my 2 season tickets.

  • @MegaMikey2006
    @MegaMikey2006 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Well done Clive 👍 - good to hear balanced opinions. Other Gunners sound far too emotional when talking about the team

  • @James-de2hp
    @James-de2hp Před 2 měsíci +81

    Glad Baz represents us. Puts himself across well

  • @thenadzman1
    @thenadzman1 Před 2 měsíci +6

    well said Adam, spot on

  • @KingJimO8
    @KingJimO8 Před 2 měsíci +1

    At 39:50 when Adam screamed to cut Gary off had me in tears laughing. I'm wearing headphones and just wasn't expecting it 🤣🤣🤣

  • @colinmichael520
    @colinmichael520 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Clive unreal.. as per. But hats off to the Spurs guy, honest and representing. Fair play

  • @humaylsafdar9435
    @humaylsafdar9435 Před 2 měsíci +76

    the everton guy knows his stuff

    • @willrea9
      @willrea9 Před 2 měsíci +3

      he really doesn't. The PL have been super super fair with the points deductions etc. and Everton fans are overly moaning with ridiculous arguments when the club have already admitted the charges

    • @walshy1234
      @walshy1234 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@willrea9think it’s you that doesn’t know your stuff mate

    • @txbill2512
      @txbill2512 Před 2 měsíci

      Behave and just admit you don't understand what's going on with Everton and their points deduction. @@willrea9

    • @JackAL1878
      @JackAL1878 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@willrea9I think you're a little confused there fella

  • @FootballMartin_
    @FootballMartin_ Před 2 měsíci +9

    I would love to see a championship Version of this, Get David Prutton to host it would be brilliant we have some unreal content creators in the championship too :)

    • @dohnjoe4516
      @dohnjoe4516 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Skybet could just work with NTT20 and put it on this channel for greater reach. Not gonna happen thoo

    • @FootballMartin_
      @FootballMartin_ Před 2 měsíci

      @@dohnjoe4516 that’s a great shout too

  • @Parrollo
    @Parrollo Před měsícem +2

    Clive from Arsenal is brilliant. Such well thought out and presented information.

  • @Joshua.M.S.
    @Joshua.M.S. Před 2 měsíci

    speaking on the purchase of players vs selling of academy players. I believe a better system would be forced to dissolve your largest contract/wages if you're in breach of FFP, and then a lock until you're below the FFP threshold. It would make clubs like Chelsea be very considerate of purchase of players or just lose the player and eat the cost, rather than telling an academy player they basically wont play at the club they're growing up in. it would stop single season splurging, where they have to see if an expensive player works for them. no points deduction just dissolution of players, if you risk losing your best player clubs will spend more responsibly. Also, they could force clubs to put total contract value in an escrow account up front.

  • @vCasualGamer
    @vCasualGamer Před 2 měsíci +20

    Clive always a pleasure to listen to. All the bait that was given by the person next him he just dismissed it.

  • @timbeyers58
    @timbeyers58 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Really good to see Dan on here. One of the best talking about football generally and a great rep of the Palace supporter base.

  • @hesperides12
    @hesperides12 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love it when fans, sit together, discuss objectively, let alone with players/ex-players, it really warms my heart

  • @treasuren
    @treasuren Před 2 měsíci +20

    The new ownership taking power away from Ten Hag isn't a bad thing. At Ajax, he had Van De Sar and Marc Overmars as CEO and Director of Football respectively which then allowed him to focus on being a coach rather than the mastermind behind everything at the club.

    • @avenellroad
      @avenellroad Před 2 měsíci

      That's his issue. Managers don't exist here.

    • @Youafool500
      @Youafool500 Před 2 měsíci +2

      What difference will it make ? Ten Haag had one break out season when he got his team to the semi final in Europe, it was 5 years ago. He ain’t going to cut it

    • @Stegibbon
      @Stegibbon Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@Youafool500fam he left and ajax turned to absolute shite after winning the league every year under him.

    • @carnivore2023
      @carnivore2023 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Stegibbon
      You are clearly missing a few VERY important facts there.
      And you are even wrong when you claim that Ajax won the Eredevisie every year under ten Hag.
      They always managed to get top 2, but they didn't always win it.
      Either you are hiding the facts or you need to educate yourself more on Ajax.
      The reality is that Overmars had to leave because of some sexual harassment he did.
      And most if not all quality players at Ajax got sold the year ten Hag came to United apart from one that got sold last summer.
      Ajax got totally stripped of quality players at the same time as they lost Overmars that was an extremely important part of the puzzle at Ajax.
      Ajax turning shite after ten Hag left has extremely little to do with ten Hag leaving.
      The reality is that every single aspects of running the club Ajax well was already in place before ten Hag started there.
      Including the play style and how they trained their academy players for that play style.
      All recruitments were done to fit that play style and there was in reality not much for ten Hag to do there to do well in the Eredevisie.
      With the squad they had at that time, almost any manager in the world would have managed to get 1st and 2nd in the Eredevisie.
      And Ajax had in reality only one great season in the Champions League with Ajax under ten Hag and that is something we have seen many not so good clubs with not so good managers have managed both before and after them.
      It is ALL about the facts and not rumours, myths and hearsays.
      I am so tired of United fans thinking ten Hag is a great manager when he in reality has done NOTHING that is great or proving he is capable of being great at all.
      Most United fans have not watched one single Eredevisie game and most have not watched a full Champions League game Ajax have played.
      At least 99% of all United fans are totally clueless about ten Hag's in game management at Ajax because they NEVER watched a game.
      And still they think they know everything about ten Hag as a manager.
      Most likely including you.
      I have watched almost every game Ajax have played for the last 20+ years, so I am confident I have much more knowledge about Ajax than most United fans.

    • @degeautdfanfirst
      @degeautdfanfirst Před 2 měsíci

      Had 9 other directors aswell

  • @tombrownbridge8160
    @tombrownbridge8160 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Matisse very good speaker. Very engaging. Well done great show. 👌

  • @rafaysiddiqi5192
    @rafaysiddiqi5192 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Big up MAHTISSE. Proud to see my boy here from the big 6 fam 👊

  • @moansy_efc1128
    @moansy_efc1128 Před 2 měsíci +19

    It would be nice if Jamie could let people speak and not shout over them

  • @markleonkabaale2154
    @markleonkabaale2154 Před měsícem +1

    Clive Palmer is a legend and has this aura that makes you want to glean wisdom from him when he speaks 👏

  • @lukedaniel8732
    @lukedaniel8732 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Great to see Clive on here, such a pro at talking about the game

  • @zino1516
    @zino1516 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Clive representing The Arsenal really well

  • @garybaker4722
    @garybaker4722 Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely brilliant conversation!Glad it's back!

  • @barryplace8425
    @barryplace8425 Před 2 měsíci +2

    FFP isn't the problem the prices for players is, its ridiculous that standard players are going for 40-50 million bring transfer fees down to reasonable amounts and the problems solved

  • @paullonghurst3424
    @paullonghurst3424 Před 2 měsíci +16

    My view is with all the financial constraints the PL in 10yrs will look nothing like it does now. Inflated player prices, an uneven playing field through VAR & Saudi investment is slowly killing the game. Add in commercial pressures, expensive tickets, limited availability & pressure to go to a PPV I would say enjoy the last few years of "competitive" football.

    • @ElBarcoGaming
      @ElBarcoGaming Před 2 měsíci +3

      without the financial constraints you'd get more states etc buying PL clubs making it even harder for clubs from the championship and lower half of the table to compete. It would cause even more inflation to a level we've never seen ( Imagine another 4/5 PSGs and what they did to market ). The ripple effect across Europe would make it even harder for clubs in other leagues to compete financially and only embolden the want for a super league. The only place that would be able to compete with PL fees and wages would be Saudi

    • @SirMonkeySuit
      @SirMonkeySuit Před 2 měsíci

      @@ElBarcoGaming But the inflation wasn't due to rule changes, In the space of a decade you've had an absurd increase to the amount a player is deemed "worth" by clubs like Chelsea, Man U and City bumping prices up to 100m. Think about it, if a club is only allowed to lose 105m only three years, you've spent that already on one player in hopes of trying to just be able to compete.
      You think this if totally fine the way it is?

  • @UTVPODCAST
    @UTVPODCAST Před 2 měsíci +25

    Thanks for having me UTV

  • @mohammedfaiisal
    @mohammedfaiisal Před 2 měsíci +2

    They need to have this at least 3 times a season. One before the start of the season or beginning of September and the second one, half way through in December or January and then one in April

  • @alexsmaxwell
    @alexsmaxwell Před 2 měsíci

    Does anyone know if these forum's are supposed to have a rep from each club. Just mindful that there are 19 people their and 2 were from Chelsea?

  • @Thai.Farang
    @Thai.Farang Před 2 měsíci +4

    Why is there a line of people just sitting there, as if they're waiting for a bus? Two in a Wigan shirt, one in an Inter shirt.

  • @malarkeyhere
    @malarkeyhere Před 2 měsíci +21

    these are so well produced!

  • @saifchowdhury3581
    @saifchowdhury3581 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I loved how Cara recognized his Palace source 😊

  • @kevinryan5077
    @kevinryan5077 Před 2 měsíci +2

    True the whole Everton debate couldn't take my eyes of George Best between Irish colours.