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    Show Notes:
    We all have cards we think are awesome but that never seem to show up on the opponent's side of the table. Why is no one else playing this stuff? On today's episode, Josh and DJ make the case for some of their favorite underrated cards in Commander.
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  • @justinmichaeleuerle5203
    @justinmichaeleuerle5203 Před 6 lety +482

    Here's a thought...DJ stays on permanently and The Command Zone is now a three host show.
    Last few episodes have been super fun guys!

  • @DatBrasss
    @DatBrasss Před 6 lety +172

    Long time listener here, and I think DJ is a great addition to the podcast. He should stay when Jimmy comes back. Make it a three-man podcast, it will be great!

    • @jaickolm
      @jaickolm Před 5 lety +4

      Did they just put eternal witness in both underrated and overrated cards? What the actual fuck xD

    • @rorschach1
      @rorschach1 Před rokem

      Welcome to the world of multiple outcomes. We call it reality.

  • @coreyroberson4550
    @coreyroberson4550 Před 6 lety +84

    Funniest game I ever saw with Proteus Staff - one guy had a Blightsteel Colossus out when the Izzet player cloned it and then tucked the original with Proteus Staff - the Blightsteel player revealed three non-creatures before revealing Phage the Untouchable. RIP.

  • @aidennoir597
    @aidennoir597 Před 6 lety +61

    So I don't​ know if this would be overegging the pudding, but what are the chances of keeping DJ on even when Jimmy comes back? Or at least as a frequently recurring guest? He's just bringing a really fresh perspective to the show, not to mention great chemistry with the both of you. I dunno if that would work out logistically but I for one would love it

  • @Corran109
    @Corran109 Před 6 lety +24

    BTW Hall of Gemstone affects everyone at the same time. If I pick red on my turn, everyone else can only tap for red as well. The big consequence of this is that you can shut of the vast majority of counterspells on your turn by picking anything other than blue.

    • @ZakanaHachihaCBC
      @ZakanaHachihaCBC Před 6 lety +1

      Corran109 that’s why you play it with mana dorks or mana rocks.

  • @sergio8002
    @sergio8002 Před 6 lety +32

    One card I have always found to be underrated is Riftsweeper. Somebody exiled your wincon? Just shuffle it back in and tutor it later.

    • @Houtzyboy
      @Houtzyboy Před 6 lety +1

      I play Riftsweeper in my Varolz, the Scar Striped edh deck, and it's so good in there

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 Před 5 lety

      I like Mystic Retrieval for similar reasons. Just keep grabbing Turn to Frog with a pinger in play...

  • @TheCommanderDojo
    @TheCommanderDojo Před 6 lety +115

    Great underrated cards:
    - Traverse the Ulvenwald
    - Signal the Clans
    - Foil
    - Altar of the Brood
    - Mystic Remora (seen a lot in cEDH but not nearly enough outside of that)
    - Orcish Lumberjack
    - Dark Tutelage
    - Read the Bones
    - Monastery Siege
    - Argivian Find
    - Noxious Revival
    My boi Sek'Kuar Deathkeeper is pretty cool too but that's mostly because I'm biased 😂

    • @amphyess
      @amphyess Před 6 lety +3

      Deck Builder’s Society dude i love your videos i built a sekuar deck because of you and is my favorite deck thank you

    • @TheCommanderDojo
      @TheCommanderDojo Před 6 lety

      amphyess Thank you! Glad you like Sek too, he's way better than people think!

    • @peterhousen7974
      @peterhousen7974 Před 6 lety +4

      HOW THE HELL DO YOU FIND THE CARD "FOIL"

    • @TheCommanderDojo
      @TheCommanderDojo Před 6 lety +1

      Peter Housen Here ya go:
      www.cardkingdom.com/mtg/prophecy/foil

    • @brama9617
      @brama9617 Před 6 lety

      I usually see mystic remora in my playgroup especially in mudrolta , azami , actually most of blue player deck

  • @creature2711
    @creature2711 Před 6 lety +18

    Josh: I think I didn’t repeat any card
    Also Josh: First card is Rebuild... again 😂

  • @NaldoNidoking
    @NaldoNidoking Před 6 lety +26

    Praetor's Grasp is a great card. Use it to steal other people's win conditions or as ways to remove combo pieces. Super great.

    • @dennisbradford7216
      @dennisbradford7216 Před 6 lety +2

      It's just so much fun! I like to grab a counterspell when I can.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander Před 6 lety +3

      I also like Sadistic Sacrament for that but the added benefit of stealing a sweet artifact makes me happy.

    • @raedien
      @raedien Před rokem

      @@JumboCommander Nightmare Incursion too.

  • @d3nnis519
    @d3nnis519 Před 6 lety +12

    With Temur Sabertooth I enjoy playing Whisperwood Elemental. Bouncing non creatures that were manifested.

  • @ImSquiggs
    @ImSquiggs Před 5 lety +1

    I discovered this channel yesterday and I've already watched over 10 hours of content. I don't know what that says about me, but thank you for an awesome podcast that is teaching me about so many cool cards I've never seen before.

  • @damndirtyape1363
    @damndirtyape1363 Před 6 lety +15

    Mindlessly trawling thru CZcams at 1am .... thank you for saving me 😁

  • @TheMusicMan1105
    @TheMusicMan1105 Před 6 lety +10

    I feel like I never see Mirri's Guile.. such a good card.. being able to spin the top every turn for free in green is awesome!

    • @levithompson1161
      @levithompson1161 Před 6 lety

      Zackery Cowan because Sylvan Library is a thing. For just one more colorless mana you get the opportunity to keep extra cards in exchange for life.

  • @Unforgiven11
    @Unforgiven11 Před 6 lety +3

    Spy Network
    1 blue, Instant
    "Look at target player's hand, the top card of that player's library, and any face-down creatures they control. Look at the top four cards of your library, then put them back in any order."
    This card can give you SO much information about an opponent and allow you to orchestrate your next 4 draws... I think people severely underestimate this card or just don't know it exists.

    • @Aigis31
      @Aigis31 Před 6 lety +1

      This card is absolute bonkers! Always loved playing it in any casual control deck I've built.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 Před 5 lety

      I have a commander deck that needs this now

  • @mrpandabites
    @mrpandabites Před 6 lety +13

    DJ is a great substitute teacher while Jimmy is away. My top underrated picks are:
    Aid from the Cowl
    Oversold Cemetery
    Crystal Shard

    • @dougfile6644
      @dougfile6644 Před 6 lety

      Mr. Pandabites - I've never heard of Aid from the Cowl; it looks awesome! Can't wait to try it out with some fetch lands/cheap sac outlets 🙂

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander Před 6 lety +2

      I love crystal shard! People underestimate the threat of activation that taxes your enemies. AND the ability to bounce your own stuff can be GREAT!

    • @ryanhansen9779
      @ryanhansen9779 Před 6 lety

      I also love Crystal Shard, solid sneak removal or saves my general.

  • @aidennoir597
    @aidennoir597 Před 6 lety +5

    Holy hell, Proteus Staff needs to be in my Inalla deck right now. Cashing in a token that's about to exile into a real creature with an ETB effect that will trigger Inalla again... Oh man. Gotta get this card.

  • @pedroriosbustamante6311
    @pedroriosbustamante6311 Před 6 lety +13

    I don't know if you guys did noticed, but it took me a while to. Hall of gemstone does affect your opponents lands, and that is super important for the instant speed plays, this card is awesome
    Edit: When I say opponents I mean the players other the one who chooses the effect in the upkeep

    • @ZakanaHachihaCBC
      @ZakanaHachihaCBC Před 6 lety

      I have it in my Ghalta deck.
      I brought it into my meta by having the Titania player add it to his deck

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander Před 6 lety +2

      Thank you for pointing that out. I should have mentioned that added benefit. I love that card.

    • @JB-sc3fr
      @JB-sc3fr Před 6 lety

      So what you are saying is:
      If it's my turn and I claim Green as the mana of choice, that means all opponents mana is also green that turn as well?

    • @pedroriosbustamante6311
      @pedroriosbustamante6311 Před 6 lety +1

      Joel B yes, exactly, they'll rely only on artifacts (like signets for example) or other mana fixing effects different then their lands.
      If they only have 7 islands untaped, for example, they won't be able to cyclonic rift at your endstep, or at your combat.

  • @05basTi
    @05basTi Před 6 lety +6

    Haha DJ's the best. Someone thats puts Nevermore and Null Chamber on a list of cards that should be played more often... XD
    My favorite card thats underrated:
    - Kami of False Hope --> WHITE Sporefrog. Its really strong. U can find it with Ranger of Eos and can easily recur it over and over again. Especially in white that has stuff like Reveillark, Sun Titan, Bishop of Rebirth and so on. Even better when ur playing black. I play it in my Ayli deck and im really advocating ppl to play this card more often.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander Před 6 lety

      I am a HUGE fan of ranger of eos! It's the white mulldrifer in a color that can't draw cards! Kami is super solid too.

  • @davevandewark
    @davevandewark Před 6 lety +1

    I love it last two episodes have been super good love having DJ on the show excellent addition. These episodes that aren’t like specific deck techs, or just look what wizard is making today, but like super insightful deck building theory. It reminds me of the early episodes that got me into the command zone in the first place. Keep up the good work guys!!

    • @davevandewark
      @davevandewark Před 6 lety

      Jesus even the book plugs!!! That just made my day :)

  • @DuncanEllis
    @DuncanEllis Před 6 lety +1

    I love the "turn your permanent into a non-useful thing" cards. Darksteel Mutation is fairly well known, and Deep Freeze is from DOM, but my favourite is Imprisoned in the Moon. Casting that on a commander is marvellous.

  • @AnyOmayonnaise
    @AnyOmayonnaise Před 4 lety +3

    Bolt bend is legitimately great, nearly always 2 for 1s, costs 1, and can eat counterspells if you need it to

  • @tyrant-thanatos
    @tyrant-thanatos Před 6 lety +4

    So happy to see Disrupt Decorum in this video. Legitimately one of my favorite cards in red right now. It's fun, it's crazy, and it's actually pretty good.

  • @ctheos69
    @ctheos69 Před 6 lety +4

    Wheel of Sun and moon is one of my favourite cards, it isnt majorly game-changing most of the time, but it does elicit some sweet reactions when you play it

  • @thisSh1tHard
    @thisSh1tHard Před 6 lety +116

    6:30

  • @sazulo57
    @sazulo57 Před 6 lety +8

    I just love to show Norin to players who have never seen him. They just go « But he doesn't do anything ! », and then I answer « Let me teach you the way of Norin, as was told by Gaka »

  • @katien.1219
    @katien.1219 Před 6 lety +7

    So, my favorite deck in magic is an EDH lands deck, gitrog, omnath, Tatyova, child of alara, whatever. In each and every one with blue I play Trade Routs. Trade Routs is an absolutely awesome blue enchantment, it's is less then 700 decks on EDH rec, it's less then a dollar, and if you can play it is your turbo lands deck you must. Look it up.

    • @vinightshade6026
      @vinightshade6026 Před 6 lety +1

      Jude N. I thought of making my Gitrog Monster deck a Muldrotha deck just for this card. Or turn it into either Yidris or five color. But the mana base though! Xd

    • @katien.1219
      @katien.1219 Před 6 lety +2

      Ignacio Segura yeah, gitrog is already such a wonderfully busted card, and I would kill for it to have blue. We need a Sultai lands matter commander.

    • @zenbrown7144
      @zenbrown7144 Před 5 lety

      I'm salty I can't play it in Windgrace.

  • @TrilainaBloodwind
    @TrilainaBloodwind Před 6 lety +1

    Not sure if this has been mentioned on any episodes or not, but Lim Dul's Vault is one of my all time underrated favorite cards. It lets you set up your deck for a few good card-draws at best, or acts as a Slightly worst Vamp Tutor. I love the card so much, and since I've been playing epser and grixis decks as of late, I have been going on a mini spending spree getting at least 3 or 4 overall. GREAT card.

  • @georgeb9977
    @georgeb9977 Před 6 lety

    I love that you guys mentioned a Spellshaper (and that the whole type is underestimated). I literally put together a mono-black spellshaper/madness deck that slaughters huge money decks. When people see the ability and the creature power they always overlook it....until you use that ability and drop a savage madness spell at the same time.

  • @Matteo_the_Plague_Doctor
    @Matteo_the_Plague_Doctor Před 6 lety +5

    I really like the card Plasm Capture. It's a Mana Drain on steroids l. Sure it's two blue and two green to fire off, but in a simic deck, it's great. Using it to counter some fat giant spell and blow out my opponent, then to get that much mana on my main phase is pretty great.

    • @dawubber6676
      @dawubber6676 Před 6 lety +1

      Mana-Ramp-Matoran Gotta second that. Also helps that it's a good 99% cheaper to physically purchase.

  • @Twistedlittlesmile
    @Twistedlittlesmile Před 6 lety +104

    Do you want to spike a bunch of cards? Because that's how you spike a bunch of cards.

    • @LadyLunarSatine
      @LadyLunarSatine Před 6 lety +4

      gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spike%20cannibal

  • @EKTurduckin
    @EKTurduckin Před 6 lety +2

    Tragic Arrogance is an INCREDIBLY underrated boardwipe. You choice the things!

  • @kevinlam6997
    @kevinlam6997 Před 6 lety +2

    I'm happy Dj has networked with the commandzone to bring more exposure to himself as well as his channel. His channel has always provided excellent content throughout its lifespan. I've been a fan of both for sometime and I just wanted say thanks for the amazing content both channels make.

  • @shendelzaresilkwood
    @shendelzaresilkwood Před 6 lety +6

    First thing that comes to my mind when I see the card "Disrupt Decorum" is that church scene in Kingsman 1 :)

  • @fingerkoala
    @fingerkoala Před 5 lety +16

    Nevermore naming shadowborn apostle against me was the worst game of commander I've ever had

    • @mario6148
      @mario6148 Před 4 lety +1

      fingerkoala oh man that’s good

  • @lightsabermario
    @lightsabermario Před 5 lety

    I love that you guys brought up Hall of Gemstone! That's been in my mono-green deck since day one and it's so good at slowing or even locking down opponents, and most can't even play their commander. Also, I came up with an infinite combo with Temur Sabertooth for my friend's Zacama deck, and it's just that: Zacama plus Temur Sabertooth plus lands that tap for a total of 12, and you've got infinite mana!

  • @santuli_91
    @santuli_91 Před 6 lety +2

    I haven't really checked how popular these are, but...
    I have gotten really attached to Imprisoned in the Moon as a budget version of Song of the Dryads (and playable in nongreen blue decks). Can still hose a commander or an incredible tough to deal with creature (or land, if you don't use Strip Mine).
    I play UG a lot, and I don't know that Alchemist's Refuge sees much play. It's no Vedalken Orerry, but you can get a version of its effect on a land that's not 15 bucks (or however much Orerry costs).

  • @The00Devils00Seraph
    @The00Devils00Seraph Před 6 lety +8

    best underrated card: Withering Boon, I play this in all my black decks, nobody sees it coming, creature counterspell in black is magnificent

    • @half-assedcraftswithbigmik4301
      @half-assedcraftswithbigmik4301 Před 6 lety

      Same! There is something so satisfying about countering "off-color".

    • @sothisis1962
      @sothisis1962 Před 4 lety

      Really though you expect counter in blue and against blue if you really know red but not at all in black

  • @stephensilverstein4855
    @stephensilverstein4855 Před 6 lety +4

    Proteus Staff is amazing when you have no creatures in you deck. Used it in a Baral deck for a long time and it allows you to stack your deck "In any order."

    • @Nr4747
      @Nr4747 Před 6 lety +1

      Also pretty good in creatureless Narset decks for obvious reasons.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander Před 6 lety +1

      I should have mentioned that secret mode as well; it's such a crazy card.

  • @roboticbychoice1081
    @roboticbychoice1081 Před 6 lety

    Great episode Josh and DJ! Along the same lines as Temur Sabertooth for the bounce effect, I love Stampeding Serow and Stampeding Wildebeests. There's always the option to just bounce themselves too :-)

  • @josephpenta5284
    @josephpenta5284 Před 6 lety +2

    I love nevermore! I run it in my Zur deck and it always comes in handy!

  • @Vininn126
    @Vininn126 Před 6 lety +4

    I like trading post because all of the abilities relate to the next one - even the last to the first.

    • @cutecommie
      @cutecommie Před 5 lety +1

      However, if you use it as a single-card engine, all you gain is life.

  • @shavedata5436
    @shavedata5436 Před 6 lety +6

    Trading post! That card is amazing!
    EDIT: I swear this was my selection before I got to the card lmao

  • @christopherhancock1723

    I love when you guys make this type of videos. It shows cards I never new about.

  • @jacfac9969
    @jacfac9969 Před 6 lety +2

    I love nightscape apprentice! It was my first card that I looked at and went “dang that’s cool” it’s just a 1/1 for a black but it has so much potential for value with its abilities

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega Před 6 lety +6

    "You're never going to look around the table in a commander game not not see at least four artifacts on the table."
    Obviously you've never been to my LGS.

    • @unbanrofellos5786
      @unbanrofellos5786 Před 4 lety

      *laughs in every player in my meta playing either bane of progress or vandalblast*

  • @Catequil
    @Catequil Před 6 lety +167

    Simple reason why i want jimmy back:
    Then we get the singing intro's back

    • @Catequil
      @Catequil Před 6 lety +10

      GIVE US THE SINGING INTRO'S BACK!

    • @malkavian6275
      @malkavian6275 Před 6 lety +29

      I hate the singing intros lol

    • @FestorFreak
      @FestorFreak Před 6 lety +9

      Ethan George Them being unproffesional singers is what makes it all the more amusing though

    • @pauldyson8098
      @pauldyson8098 Před 6 lety

      SAME!

    • @ByrMattlesphere
      @ByrMattlesphere Před 6 lety +1

      Love the singing intros. It just feels right at this point.

  • @lycanAbyss
    @lycanAbyss Před 6 lety +1

    Gift of immortality is one that I feel is underrated, the floor is your opponents have to kill something twice but it can bring the creature back before the death trigger resolves so Elenda becomes so much fun.

  • @Kaiserland111
    @Kaiserland111 Před 4 lety

    My dudes, almost every single card you mentioned is either in my Mogis or Kess deck! You did peak my interest in a couple cards as well, so thanks for the great video.

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 Před 6 lety +31

    Some stuff I find extremely underrated:
    Archfiend of depravity
    Assemble the legion
    Sek'kuar (as commander)
    Soul Warden (best etb life gain ever)
    it seems I like beating
    EDIT:
    More cards I forgot:
    Reaper from the Abbys (Repeatable removal ealmost each turn, on a huge flying beater).
    Soldier of the pantheon (this dude is so good and overlooked, both blocking and gaining you life).
    Weathered wayfarer
    Quest for ula's temple (so much potential for just 1 single mana)
    Kruphix, God of Horizons (mah boy has the mana to cast those juicy BIG eldrazi)
    Angelic accord (it is soooo easy to abuse this thing each turn)
    Celestial force (Nobody wants to waste removal on this. Meanwhile, you get a bazillion life)
    Minds dilation (chaos at its finest, this thing is incredibly ridiculous)
    Tuktuk scraper, Hagra diabolist, Halimar excavator (these guys look horrible on their own, but on a tribal ally deck, they can ABSOLUTELY kill an opponent or mill somone out. Completely overlooked)
    Endbringer
    And my pick for the most underrated card: Mirage mirror.

    • @TheCommanderDojo
      @TheCommanderDojo Před 6 lety +1

      OOM- 32 Sek'Kuar is a beast! People always ignore him until it's too late 😎

    • @emeraldsky1289
      @emeraldsky1289 Před 6 lety +2

      Definitely agree with archfiend of depravity

    • @williamjensen5683
      @williamjensen5683 Před 6 lety

      I love assemble the legion!

    • @sujatasridhar6497
      @sujatasridhar6497 Před 6 lety +1

      OOM- 32 l

    • @hawkeye137137
      @hawkeye137137 Před 6 lety +1

      I love Archfiend of Depravity too. Good against any deck that has or creates a decent number of creatures which is almost all except maybe spellslinger and voltron decks, but they probably have more creatures than 2 most of the time too.

  • @brendanmahns4493
    @brendanmahns4493 Před 6 lety +4

    Okay so my underrated pick is bitter ordeal, it has the mechanic gravestorm. It's the only card in history that does. It's a surgical extraction per card that has entered the grave this turn. You can't lose if you take every card that can beat you out of the game.

    • @JackThrowerofPrinnys
      @JackThrowerofPrinnys Před 6 lety

      Brendan Mahns it like one of my pet cards sadistic sacrament. I have been able to play that kicked more than i should have lol.

    • @noahearle2584
      @noahearle2584 Před 6 lety

      I totally agree. I use bitter ordeal in my gitrog dredge deck. I will float 25 ish mana, sacrifice all of my lands to squandered resources, play bitter ordeal then I will play splendid reclamation to return my lands! Powerful Card!

  • @darkrexkigntstone8773
    @darkrexkigntstone8773 Před 6 lety

    My Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain deck use vehicle as it main theme, so I use deadeye quartermaster. The card is great mainly because it search for equipment or a vehicle. Also there is a card I only use in my Hallar, The Firefletcher deck. The card called Saproling Infestation. In a one cororless, one green enchanment, that states when a player a kicker cost; they make a one one green saproling token. The kicker has a lot cards you don't see much in EHD in general. Have a great week DJ and Josh.

  • @trollartist6664
    @trollartist6664 Před 6 lety

    Disrupt decorum is one of my favorites cards in the game. I use it in marchesa and bolas. Marchesa is one of my favorite uses because people already dont like attacking me but sometimes they like to try to focus me if im getting to advantagious.

  • @Cabbrickk
    @Cabbrickk Před 6 lety +3

    Isn't Rebuild an instant speed Upheaval with Mycosynth Lattice in play?

  • @infalliblepoet
    @infalliblepoet Před 6 lety +10

    Crystal Shard.

  • @CraigLoos
    @CraigLoos Před 6 lety +2

    Hall of Gemstone also affects your opponents lands during your turn. Choose green, and during your turn, your opponent's lands produce green mana, preventing counter spells.

  • @AhranMaoDante
    @AhranMaoDante Před 6 lety

    Polluted Bonds in Golgari decks, is a favorite of mine. The Ramp from Green helps it drop earlier; then you use it with cards like Veteran Explorer, or Collective Voyage. It's also fun to see how people react that situation. Do they get lands, take damage and help you gain life, or do they put themselves behind you and anyone who opts to get the lands.

  • @xSkye629x
    @xSkye629x Před 6 lety +30

    Storm Crow, it's not in enough decks. It's so strong that even cEDH players scoop when its cast
    It is an extremely degenerate play though, so I suppose that's why its not in every blue deck out there

    • @darbymckilkannoncaid3279
      @darbymckilkannoncaid3279 Před 6 lety +4

      A guy who used to be in my playgroup played storm crow, we kicked him out.

    • @Quiltfish
      @Quiltfish Před 6 lety

      I don't get this meme.

    • @CosmicErrata
      @CosmicErrata Před 6 lety

      Storm Crow is probably the only creature capable of Voltron without Aura or equipment, and maybe a ton of -1/-1 counters on it, and still win on first attack.

    • @cheesecake2449
      @cheesecake2449 Před 6 lety

      Quiltfish its probably because of it’s flavor text

    • @Quiltfish
      @Quiltfish Před 6 lety

      Nelis Nope, still don't get it. :/

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 Před 6 lety +3

    My favorite card to play and has ALWAYS been incredibly great whenever I get it onto the field is Vodalian Illusionist. The card is 2 and a blue for a 2/2 merfolk wizard with the activated abilitiy of 2 and a blue and tap it to phase out target creature.
    Thanks to Teferi's Protection I think a lot more people understand phasing which has made this creature a lot easier to use, but I've been able to use this for so many flexible effects. You can use it before your upkeep to phase out a Sheoldred so you don't have to sacrifice your creatures, you can use it in response to someone targeting one of your creatures to phase that creature out, or you can even phase out one of your creatures in response to someone targeting your equipment or auras, and you can use it's ability on itself if it's the target of removal, or even to save an important creature in response to a board wipe.
    I first started using it when I built my Kumena deck with the intent to protect my commander, but since seeing how amazing it was there, it's become a staple in any of my decks running blue.

  • @TraumaTrae
    @TraumaTrae Před 6 lety

    Faerie Artisans is a card I rarely ever saw, but once I introduced it into my meta it's become a staple blue card. It's really fun and lets you get all the ETB effects your opponents get when they play creatures.

  • @Thaliathetree
    @Thaliathetree Před 6 lety

    Elixir of Immortality is a staple in like 8 of my 9 decks. Its best in my Breya deck, but when I started playing Commander everyone back home ran it. When I moved for college and I came here, everyone was surprised to see it. But they now are seeing the value and it’s fun.

  • @Ricardo-zo1ti
    @Ricardo-zo1ti Před 6 lety +6

    The best use for protean staff is to use it in your commander with no creatures to put your library in any order

  • @sc100ott
    @sc100ott Před 4 lety +3

    In the months after this show was posted, the price of polluted bonds more than doubled. Coincidence? I think not. 😪

  • @Omnivxrse
    @Omnivxrse Před 6 lety

    Another cool thing about hall of gemstone is that since you are most likely playing it in mono green, you don't have a lot of good instant speed interaction, other than pump spells, and you are very susceptible counter spells and removal, hall of gemstone can protect you from that stuff during your turn, because if you choose green, that affects all lands, so then your opponents can't play mana drain, swords to plowshares, cyclonic rift, etc. on your turn, and it really protects you a lot.

  • @josephg279
    @josephg279 Před 6 lety +1

    This is my favorite kind of episodes.
    My underrated list is on my tapped out user profile page.
    Green. Multani marro sorcerer
    Red. Vicious shadows
    Black. Praetors grasp
    White. Quarantine field
    Blue. That merfolk that removes cards from the library you did damage to. I forget the name.
    And my favorite land is sitting sheets. Because I have mono black decks that use snow-covered lands

  • @Enterblathnir
    @Enterblathnir Před 6 lety +7

    TEMPT WITH DISCOVERY

    • @graysonchristian2668
      @graysonchristian2668 Před 5 lety

      Supabait all the tempt cards are bad and they’ve all said they hate the tempt cards

  • @DrLemon-em1ix
    @DrLemon-em1ix Před 6 lety +3

    Maybe I didn't get it but why is Jimmy gone? I just want to know that. The new guy is also pretty cool even I don't know his name :)

  • @AzraelVM
    @AzraelVM Před 6 lety

    I really like 'Library of Leng'
    So usefull in any discard / wheel deck. You can filter you hand with any wheel effect. Perfect when you a to discard and put a miracle card on top for your next draw step.

  • @kylecarlson1159
    @kylecarlson1159 Před 6 lety

    One I haven't seen very often is Word of Seizing. Especially if you're a mono red deck, having a split second card to interrupt the stack is super useful and it's take control of ANY permanent!!!

  • @ignaciorios9011
    @ignaciorios9011 Před 6 lety +4

    I do not know how frequent it is, or even if it's "good", but I love the card beastmaster ascension

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 Před 5 lety

      Sans enchantment removal, Beastmaster Ascension takes over games. I'm not sure I've ever lost a game where I turned it on and kept it in play.
      Favorite combo: BMA + Cultivator of Blades + Rapacious One. Cultivator adds its P/T to other creatures when it attacks, Rapacious One is 5/4 trample and makes Eldrazi Spawn for each damage it deals to the player. BMA pumps Cultivator's pump to +8/+8 AND pumps Rapacious One +5/+5, so R1 is hitting as an 18/17 and all the trample damage that gets through makes 5/6 tokens that will be buffed to 13/14 on the next swing if cultivator survived.

    • @ignaciorios9011
      @ignaciorios9011 Před 5 lety

      @@sethb3090 Nice combo!

  • @DiploRadio
    @DiploRadio Před 6 lety +10

    GAME KNIGHTS! GAME KNIGHTS! GAME KNIGHTS!

  • @JB-sc3fr
    @JB-sc3fr Před 6 lety

    I enjoy videos like this.
    Cool cards for commander that I will use.
    Good job on showing the cards while they talk about them!

  • @rkbmcb
    @rkbmcb Před 6 lety

    There is a fun hidden mode on Proteus Staff, which is activating it targeting your own commander, a token, or a man-land that you control when you have a creatureless deck. Lets you stack it however you want.

  • @thecuetobrat7979
    @thecuetobrat7979 Před 6 lety +5

    RAKDOS THE DEFILER demon tribal deck!!!!

  • @roarkzachary9894
    @roarkzachary9894 Před 6 lety +7

    I would really like to meet you jimmy and josh and play against you

    • @solidraven6986
      @solidraven6986 Před 6 lety

      Roark Zachary unless your a big timer in the community and or donated a lot of money youre wasting your time my friend.

    • @sequoiaernst1666
      @sequoiaernst1666 Před 6 lety +2

      I bet you could play against them if you were all at the same gp.

    • @codelicious6590
      @codelicious6590 Před 6 lety

      Hit them up at a GP man.

    • @roarkzachary9894
      @roarkzachary9894 Před 6 lety

      Cody Watson sadly I live in nz

  • @johnpinkerton5901
    @johnpinkerton5901 Před 5 lety

    My favorite underrated card is Mystic Speculation from Future sight. One blue sorcery to scry three with a buy back of two generic mana. Great in the early game to filter the deck making sure you curve out and in the late game to filter out the lands when you get flooded or need to find answers.

  • @jordanclemens5834
    @jordanclemens5834 Před 6 lety

    Oracle's Vault, Lapse of Certainty, Tamiyo's Journal, Mechanized Production, Wayward Swordtooth. Barely see these anywhere except my side of the table and they are just sneaky good, especially the first three

  • @liemsolow3697
    @liemsolow3697 Před 6 lety +4

    Underrated card #1: Plateau, for my Boros EDH deck

  • @Speetlebeetle
    @Speetlebeetle Před 6 lety +3

    "Evacuation sees a TON of play!"
    Honestly, it sees close to no play, come on!

  • @dennisbradford7216
    @dennisbradford7216 Před 6 lety +1

    Temur Sabertooth was also printed in a Commander Precon: the 2017 cat deck.

  • @EliyaSelhub
    @EliyaSelhub Před 6 lety

    My favorite little blue creature is Reef Shaman. For one blue it provides color fixing for yourself, but it's even better at denying your opponents a color or a utility land for their turn. In the early game it can easily set an opponent back a few turns, and politically it can be used to help allies. Even better when you can untap it.

  • @davesgoldenduck6066
    @davesgoldenduck6066 Před 6 lety +4

    No one has ever heard of my underrated kill spell: Killing Wave

    • @lowclasscrucifix4825
      @lowclasscrucifix4825 Před 5 lety

      I used killing wave in my rakdos, lord of riots deck. Very unassuming kill spell but can put in some work.

  • @SnapquesterMage
    @SnapquesterMage Před 6 lety +16

    Is Jimmy coming back? Nothing against Jumbo (he's a great addition), just curious if this is going to be the duo moving forward. The fun chemistry isn't quite there in these recent episodes.

    • @HarryBuddhaPalm
      @HarryBuddhaPalm Před 6 lety

      he said Jimmy was going to be gone for a couple of months

    • @omgoblins
      @omgoblins Před 6 lety +7

      do you even watch the video they mention what's going on in every single one

    • @SnapquesterMage
      @SnapquesterMage Před 6 lety +2

      Honestly, I usually watch/listen to these in the background and often don't pay attention to the first few minutes of ads/announcements.

    • @fractalsloth
      @fractalsloth Před 6 lety +1

      which one do they mention whats happening to jimmy? I dont watch every single episode

    • @oprah_winspree2195
      @oprah_winspree2195 Před 6 lety

      Harry BuddhaPalm on Twitter I’ve seen him post how he is doing some fitness training. Idk If there is another reason though. He looks swole, check out his Twitter.

  • @lagavulinmtg5120
    @lagavulinmtg5120 Před 6 lety +1

    You guys are low key the plug for easy RL speculations. Just off of you guys naming a card and mentioning its on the RL makes it go up significantly.

  • @terryanderson4289
    @terryanderson4289 Před 6 lety

    So I came across a land that I now put in every single deck I have now. It's Tower of the Magistrate. Taps for colorless but also can tap to give target creature protection from artifacts. Hitting a voltron commander with that in response to them equipping or to protect your creature from an opponent's ability. It's so good in this format filled with different artifacts!

  • @V3TJasper
    @V3TJasper Před 6 lety +42

    I don't like this weird "social contract" stuff. Land destruction is a logical response to a powerful strategy. I think it's very lame that people build lands decks and think their strategy deserves to be protected by arbitrary rules.

    • @Itryhardder
      @Itryhardder Před 6 lety

      I agree my playgroup plays land destruction cards, the only rule we have is to have a way to win on board first, also with all the blue its likely to not resolve. My buddy has an Olivia Voldaren deck that he packed every targeted land destruction spell into, he often cripples the blue players and then destroys all the lands with Olivia out and just wins on the spot. One thing I think is way douchier is targeted hand removal such as Mind Shatter or Mind Twist, hands are sacred lands are not!

    • @TheCommanderDojo
      @TheCommanderDojo Před 6 lety +8

      I agree, nothing is sacred in Commander. I'm not a fan of this "social contract"/ "spirit of the format" stuff. People can't ever learn to combat LD if they never face it. It helps make people better Magic players

    • @Eramiserasmus
      @Eramiserasmus Před 6 lety +7

      I'm the one who introduced LD into our Commander and Modern playgroups. Because of that, our Modern Tron player regularly beats Ponza, our overall mana curves in decks have dropped and people are less inclined to play mass removal in case its followed up with Armageddon and a haste creature. We've learned how to play through hard locks and create bizarre wins through sheer tenacity. That's why people need to be ready for it.

    • @zacharyklewin3603
      @zacharyklewin3603 Před 6 lety

      amen

    • @leovaeg
      @leovaeg Před 6 lety +12

      Land destruction says "you cant play magic"
      and that is NOT a fun or cool thing to say in a game of Magic
      its also why cards like Mindslaver, True-name Nemesis, and the one that stops spells of X Color are stupid anti-social cards that nobody should play

  • @ClexYoshi
    @ClexYoshi Před 6 lety

    also, to answer the "To The Listener" segment...
    My go-to is probably Planar Collapse in that it's a 2 mana board wipe. it's a delayed board wipe, but the lack of flexibility tends not to get you punched in the face as much like Nev's disk tends to cause. it DOES however get people to do stuff.

  • @TheProjectplayer
    @TheProjectplayer Před 4 lety

    Volcanic visions works great in my torbran deck because you can usually play a early cheap red spell and still be able to return that to your hand and deal high damage with the board wipe if torbran is on the field.

  • @solidraven6986
    @solidraven6986 Před 6 lety +9

    when are you guys going to have Jeremy on? I'd like to hear his perspective on some underrated commander cards.

    • @shawndiaz7528
      @shawndiaz7528 Před 6 lety +6

      Job Solis I think the show primarily hosts active magic players.

    • @solidraven6986
      @solidraven6986 Před 6 lety +1

      Shawn Diaz lol

    • @phatchrispratt5392
      @phatchrispratt5392 Před 6 lety +2

      Can we not

    • @solidraven6986
      @solidraven6986 Před 6 lety +2

      PhatChrisPratt well you can feel free to ignore it, but you didn't. I honestly do want to hear wat Jeremy has to say about magic. he's cool.

    • @zacharyspano23
      @zacharyspano23 Před 6 lety

      I have no opinion on this comment except it is bound to cause trouble

  • @alicetheferrothorn3677
    @alicetheferrothorn3677 Před 6 lety +33

    No jimmy for a few months :(

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 Před 6 lety +5

      Alice the Ferrothorn FEW MONTHS? NOOOOO! I'll still watch, and hopefully they've got at least a couple of Game Knights banked, so we get our fix. But how am I meant to go MONTHS without red-lovin', scruffy-haired Jimmy?!

    • @someguysfishing
      @someguysfishing Před 6 lety +4

      Where is jimmy

    • @TijmenDal
      @TijmenDal Před 6 lety

      I'd like to know this too

    • @eirikastokes9652
      @eirikastokes9652 Před 6 lety

      I believe Jimmy is working in a movie!

  • @nickvarga7676
    @nickvarga7676 Před 6 lety

    ... I cannot believe you guys mentioned Dream Halls.
    That has been my pet card in our meta for YEARS. I love you guys so much right now.. I've been abusing that tech for SOOOOOO long.. lol.

  • @rdbaron102
    @rdbaron102 Před 6 lety

    Dream Halls : in my Muldrotha deck.
    Nevermore : in my Zur deck.
    Volcanic Visions : in my Jodah deck.
    Kaervek the Merciless: in my Mogis deck.
    I would add Master Warcraft and Darkness to the under used list.
    Great show guys! Love it!

  • @ry7hym
    @ry7hym Před 6 lety +4

    JUMBO!!!!

  • @Itryhardder
    @Itryhardder Před 6 lety +25

    DJ > Jimmy imho

    • @sonickage
      @sonickage Před 6 lety

      Still, its Jimmys show

    • @jamamanoffortune6910
      @jamamanoffortune6910 Před 6 lety +1

      why be such a dick man?

    • @Itryhardder
      @Itryhardder Před 6 lety

      Wasn't being a dick or an asshole, was just stating my opinion. I don't like Jimmy because he is offstandish and doesn't add much to the conversation most of the time.

  • @Starfury117
    @Starfury117 Před 6 lety

    In terms of Polluted bonds. I have a question for you guys, in your optimized or competitive decks, do you have lifegain? Because strategy is so clear, my deck ends up not having lifegain, is that detrimental in the long game?

  • @omgitzducki
    @omgitzducki Před 6 lety

    39:30 I've never related more than to Dj's reaction. I got the happy jitters at that level of shutdown. Lol

  • @jarodgambino9252
    @jarodgambino9252 Před 6 lety

    my card that I use in a few decks is Eternity Vessel. I think it is a lot of mana but if it sticks around with decks like omnath or it even works with atraxa really well. sometimes i just have it keep me stable for a bit, or use tree of predition with toughness matters decks, because then there is no loss. i just is really interesting and works with a lot of cards

  • @RaginKavu
    @RaginKavu Před 6 lety

    Proteus Staff combos out perfectly with another yet underrated card: Tunnel Vision. 5U for a sorcery that has you naming a card, then, revealing through target library until the named card shows up. If it does, all the cards revealed up to it, go to the graveyard, and the named card goes to the top.

  • @matthewferrill1985
    @matthewferrill1985 Před 6 lety

    A good underrated card is Paradoxical Outcome. That spell can save your nonland/nontoken permanents and draw you a crap ton of cards. It’s also good in an ETB deck because you can bounce your creatures and recast them for their enter the battlefield effects.

  • @DarthTUK
    @DarthTUK Před 6 lety

    I'm playing a Queen Marchesa curses deck. It's filled with a lot of hatestuff that starts piling up over time and it chokes opponents that can't get over the pillowfort.
    Some of my favorites:
    - Painful Quandary
    - Tainted Remedy
    - Price of Knowledge
    - all the expensive curses (Overwhelming Splendor + Curse of Death's Hold COMBO)

  • @EliyaSelhub
    @EliyaSelhub Před 6 lety +1

    Temur Sabertooth was also in a precon (C17) so no excuses there!