They want to use their lasguns but have to take out the Ornithopter first since its shield would cause a nuclear explosion if hit by a laser. Brilliant battle scene
@@emmanuellugoospina9662It’s common knowledge within the Dune universe that if a Lasgun beam makes contact with a shield it causes a Sub-Atomic explosion. Destroying both lasgun and shield. It’s also why swords are used so heavily, swords can penetrate the shield without causing a sub-atomic blast.
The book says they look like ticks, so some people were upset that the Atreides version wasn’t like it was depicted in the book. So Dennis says, “fools that’s because it was describing the Harkonnen version. Here ya go.”
@@roems6396 😯 since the spice is found only on one single planet, somehow i find it oddly specific that each House made they own harvesters... but ok, thanks for the hint.
@@Ysckemia i mean the imperium is thousands of years old and the planet changed hands a fair bit, Harkonnens only owned it for last 80 years so it would be fair to assume that any house could've owned it at some point
Can someone explain that in this scene fremen got heavy loss to destroy the heli, and once its destroyed the fremen used laser bazooka to destroy the harvester Yet on the nexr scene right after this they used the laser bazooka to destroy another heli and the harvester at the same time like why dont they just spam laser bazooka here as well to destroy the heli without sending suicide troops?
As the other guy mentioned, shields refract lasers to a degree that it’s basically a nuke going off. But shields attract the sand worms with their vibrations on the ground so if it touches the ground it’s safe to use the laser.
@@_martian101 what is explained in the books is that if a laser hits a shield there is a nuclear reaction on both sides of the of the exchange. So the shooter and the target go POOF!!
@@topherhaynie7358 are you saying there'd be two nuclear explosion? Doesn't matter, it's still a big deal when you just need one warrior to take down the whole empire
Uhm... shields anyone? Either those guys have shields, in which case you have living shields, or they don't in which case you can shoot them from very, very far away with guns instead of hiding in sand and stabbing them.
Another thing, the movie doesn't explain but the Fremen didn't always have lasers, they had to steal/capture them from the Harkonnen. You wouldn't want to put your limited supply of lasers at risk, so they only used them once it was safe . . .
Having the shields on will instantly attract the sand worms. It would sorta work like a thumper but annoy them alot more. They mention this detail in the first film. It would make them go crazy. So when the troops are on the ground they have them off. In the beginning of Dune part 2 when they get sniped they can turn on the shields because they are on a rock and not the sands.
Never realy explained in the films but if those lasers hit the Thopter with its shield on, it triggers a nuclear explosion.basically if a lasgun hits a shield, it goes 💥. So they're making sure its 100% down so they wouldn't accidentally hit the shield.
Because they wanted to take out the shielded air support first. If the Fremen immediately started shooting the lasguns at the harvester from out in the open, the Harkonnen gunship and ground troops would see it and use their ranged firepower to home in and kill them (a downside to warfare in mostly open desert.) The Fremen ambushed the Harkonnens up close and used the massive harvester as solid cover against the gunship. Once the gunship was taken out, the lasguns were free to safely fire on the harvester.
@@TheFruitcake1983 Like the other guy said, the gunship was shielded. Lasers hitting a shield have a chance of a reaction that leads to a nuclear detonation, either at the point of contact or it could feedback along the beam and detonate within the firing lasgun. It could even happen at both ends. Basically, this could kill everyone. It’s far too dangerous and unpredictable to try. As for the missile launcher, it seems like it’s difficult to get past the shield of a ornithopter. You have to time it just right and hope you get the missile through the shield as the thopter’s gun is firing (which means you need it to be shooting you or your fighters to get that opening.) Again, attempting this when you’re out in the open desert with little to no cover is probably not the smartest idea. It’s likely the Fremen already tried this in the past and took horrendous casualties.
it's told in the first movie that shield's a death sentence in the desert, it drives the worms into a killing frenzy, so i guess anything on ground can't be shielded else everybody will die on the scene
Spice harvesters already attract worms from the rhythms they make. They have ships that lift the harvester off the ground to avoid it being swallowed up.
@@FieryPterodactyl The book explains worms are extremely territorial, hence their aggression to humans but especially to other worms. Vibrations from the shields cause every worm in the region to ignore territorial aggression with other worms and to beeline straight for the source of the shield. Basically, the entire region around the crawler would be filled with worms for many miles. The Fremen would be just as dead as the harvester.
How did the bullets hurt them? The whole point of shield tech is that bullets don’t do anything. That’s why people fight hand to hand. And if they are not wearing shields then why fight them hand to hand, everyone should carry guns.
As the above says, the first film and the book both make it known that to use a shield in the desert is a death sentence as it drives the worms mad. Also, slow enough projectiles and those with their own propellants can get through a shield. Shields are also very expensive and not practical for everyone to use, Fremen can’t afford many in the first place and don’t use them because of the worms while the Harkonnen are just to cheap to outfit their troops with them even out of the desert. Also, look up what happens when one of those lasguns hits a shield.
great they have guns and yet they do not try to create smart bullets that can penetrate the shield. Oh yea smart bullets require computers and computers are banned. Dune is cool but the concept is dumb
Shields will permit slow moving things to penetrate but protect against fast moving objects. Paul and other fighters in Dune are trained to be fast on defense and slow on offense so that their strike will penetrate a shield. A shield and lasgun creates a feedback loop that is similar to a nuclear blast and obliterates both operators. Consequently, bladed weapons and training are the order of the day.
Freemen fighter's are the best their is, the fact the women play such key parts in battles tells u the males know and accept all capable fighting bodies, it's part of what makes em such capable fighter's too.
Well since you obviously have a problem with women let's figure out an answer that's nice and sexist for you. How about maybe she's too weak and stupid to fight so the bazooka is all she's good for? That make you happy? Or maybe, just maybe, it doesn't matter what gender a person is as anyone can have their own skills and strengths, and she was tasked with firing the bazooka.
Such a lame adaption. If they are using shields, they would have attracted a worm and that Gatling gun would not have been able to shoot w a shield around the thopter.
My guess is the shield turns off every time they shoot just like planes in WW1 Second shields only attract worms if the frequency touch the ground and they are clearly airborne
The shield turns off evertime they fire and worms are not a problem since they are in the air. Worm can't hear or feel the humming of the shields since they're in the air.
It's established Paul as a skilled fighter, and because of this success, he gets truly accepted in fremen society. It's absolutely the opposite of filler.
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- Paul "Muad'dib" Atreides, Lisan al Gaib, and Kwisatz Haderach.
as written
glory to he who controls his wife, as well as the spice
LISAN AL GAIB
Everytime these helis show up in the movie, the Freyman take heavy casualties
Goes to show how important Close Air Support is
With as good as they supposedly are I'm surprised they didn't take out the Thopter first. But I know the plot demanded it this way
@@benson4820 air superiority is no joke
Which mirrors real life soviet-afghan war, with only MANPADS to even the score
@@benson4820 You got that right.
Common tactic in Planetside 2.
How do you do it
@@GawdNawBruv One person decoys the enemy gunship while others pop out on other side with manpads or AA cannon.
I really wish ps2 was this cool still... please give us Planetside 3 soon ;__;
Rising from the sand like that was epic. Now that’s it’s on Prime I’ve rewatched it 3 times making 6 times I’ve seen the movie in total now lol
As Written!!
Same, hasn’t gotten old yet!
Read the book hombre!
@@user-zy2mt3cl1z I’ve read all the books multiple times throughout my life lol. Love Dune
the thumbnail of this clip looks like they're taking a selfie with an ancient polaroid and i wanna see what the photo looks like
Those were some very accommodating stuntmen.
Best scene ever
It did bother me thoigh that the sand breather tubes werent sand colored. Dark objects really contrast sharply, bad choice by Dennis there imho.
probably to let the audience see it
Soviet Afghan war.
Lil bit
1:01 their auto visors open up. Such cool detail
That explains the worm Riding with magical glasses
Great teamwork!
They want to use their lasguns but have to take out the Ornithopter first since its shield would cause a nuclear explosion if hit by a laser. Brilliant battle scene
From where u get that information about nuclear explosion?
@@emmanuellugoospina9662 I believe it's in the book.
@@emmanuellugoospina9662It’s common knowledge within the Dune universe that if a Lasgun beam makes contact with a shield it causes a Sub-Atomic explosion. Destroying both lasgun and shield. It’s also why swords are used so heavily, swords can penetrate the shield without causing a sub-atomic blast.
that harvester looks like a Garthim from Dark Crystal :o
The book says they look like ticks, so some people were upset that the Atreides version wasn’t like it was depicted in the book. So Dennis says, “fools that’s because it was describing the Harkonnen version. Here ya go.”
@@roems6396 😯 since the spice is found only on one single planet, somehow i find it oddly specific that each House made they own harvesters... but ok, thanks for the hint.
@@Ysckemia i mean the imperium is thousands of years old and the planet changed hands a fair bit, Harkonnens only owned it for last 80 years so it would be fair to assume that any house could've owned it at some point
For Real! 😂
@@XoJIJIoY yeah, fair enough. plus technologies evolving. or being more destructive on purpose, because harkonnen "tradition".
Can someone explain that in this scene fremen got heavy loss to destroy the heli, and once its destroyed the fremen used laser bazooka to destroy the harvester
Yet on the nexr scene right after this they used the laser bazooka to destroy another heli and the harvester at the same time like why dont they just spam laser bazooka here as well to destroy the heli without sending suicide troops?
It isn't explained, but lasguns used against shields is an awful idea. It causes a feedback that ends in a nuclear level explosion.
As the other guy mentioned, shields refract lasers to a degree that it’s basically a nuke going off. But shields attract the sand worms with their vibrations on the ground so if it touches the ground it’s safe to use the laser.
Sorry this is edited out a bunch. Scene is much better.
Did you film this in the theater or what?
The movie never explains that laser causes a nuclear explosion if used against the shields.
There are so many things the director never explained. He dumbed down the movie a great deal.
@@topherhaynie7358it doesn't make sense anyway, why would they need anything more if they could nuke anyone with a laser
@@_martian101 what is explained in the books is that if a laser hits a shield there is a nuclear reaction on both sides of the of the exchange. So the shooter and the target go POOF!!
@@topherhaynie7358 are you saying there'd be two nuclear explosion? Doesn't matter, it's still a big deal when you just need one warrior to take down the whole empire
@@_martian101 yes, two nuclear explosions. I’m not sure what you mean by one warrior to take down the empire??
Harkonnen soldiers seem much better armed and equipped and yet they are massacred in close combat. How is it possible ?
Because their only redeeming quality is numbers. The Fremen warriors are able to beat the Emperor's personal army, the best soldiers in the Imperium.
harkonnen soldiers are, obviously, EXTREMELY slow & clumsy lol
Uhm... shields anyone? Either those guys have shields, in which case you have living shields, or they don't in which case you can shoot them from very, very far away with guns instead of hiding in sand and stabbing them.
- what a stupid design the machine has 6 legs
The 6 legs are vacuums form spice literally suck from the center and the other 6 legs
When Paul jumps ontoo of chani from pure instinct and love 🥹
Where are the lasers coming from? Guess I gotta watch it again, I'll be back in 3 hours, maybe I'll see the answer.
They came from other fremen soldiers who were hiding under the sand
@@Filmart255 y can't they just use the lasers on everything
@@ALV694lasgun + holtzman shield = annihilation. They won't risk it until they make sure that no shield is left on the battlefield.
@@ALV694because that creates a nuke
Another thing, the movie doesn't explain but the Fremen didn't always have lasers, they had to steal/capture them from the Harkonnen. You wouldn't want to put your limited supply of lasers at risk, so they only used them once it was safe . . .
Omg you really ruined it by this music? 😂🤦
lmao, they trimmed the hissy-fit
Why did the harkonen soldiers lose their shields?
Porque o se puede usar en arrakis
Having the shields on will instantly attract the sand worms. It would sorta work like a thumper but annoy them alot more. They mention this detail in the first film. It would make them go crazy. So when the troops are on the ground they have them off. In the beginning of Dune part 2 when they get sniped they can turn on the shields because they are on a rock and not the sands.
@@devin7tm woah I don't even remember this detail
@@spooneater9001 Dr. Liet Kynes delievers the line in Dune Part 1
Sooo.... They had guys with lazers hiding arlund the harvester ready to shoot it anytime.
Why not open with that and fight the guards?
Never realy explained in the films but if those lasers hit the Thopter with its shield on, it triggers a nuclear explosion.basically if a lasgun hits a shield, it goes 💥. So they're making sure its 100% down so they wouldn't accidentally hit the shield.
@@gudhaxer41343 Yeah, that's why everyone is fighting with swords in the first place.
@@mathisfun13 while being unshielded.... I know, it doesn't make sense.
@@user-sz8zi6gs7z que?
@@user-sz8zi6gs7z Shields attract the sand worms which is why only the flying vehicles have them, not the harvester or the infantry guarding it
They couldn't have fired a laser at the harvester right away? What was all that running around for?
Because they wanted to take out the shielded air support first.
If the Fremen immediately started shooting the lasguns at the harvester from out in the open, the Harkonnen gunship and ground troops would see it and use their ranged firepower to home in and kill them (a downside to warfare in mostly open desert.)
The Fremen ambushed the Harkonnens up close and used the massive harvester as solid cover against the gunship.
Once the gunship was taken out, the lasguns were free to safely fire on the harvester.
@@Gunnar001 what prevented them from just destroying the ornithopters?
@@TheFruitcake1983 The thopter has a shield. Shields protect against lasers. Firing a laser at a shield will kill you.
@@TheFruitcake1983 Like the other guy said, the gunship was shielded. Lasers hitting a shield have a chance of a reaction that leads to a nuclear detonation, either at the point of contact or it could feedback along the beam and detonate within the firing lasgun. It could even happen at both ends. Basically, this could kill everyone. It’s far too dangerous and unpredictable to try.
As for the missile launcher, it seems like it’s difficult to get past the shield of a ornithopter. You have to time it just right and hope you get the missile through the shield as the thopter’s gun is firing (which means you need it to be shooting you or your fighters to get that opening.)
Again, attempting this when you’re out in the open desert with little to no cover is probably not the smartest idea. It’s likely the Fremen already tried this in the past and took horrendous casualties.
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Space Gaza
Oof
Palestinian: Fremen
Israel: Harkonnen
USA: Emperor, Sardaukar
Is this where Paul and Chani's baby boy dies?
Lego, their first child, was omitted from the movie...
They don’t have child yet
Surely they could use shields against whatever the helicopter is firing
Shields attract worms
@@nicolashenstock3737 even better, attach the shield to the harvester
it's told in the first movie that shield's a death sentence in the desert, it drives the worms into a killing frenzy, so i guess anything on ground can't be shielded else everybody will die on the scene
Spice harvesters already attract worms from the rhythms they make. They have ships that lift the harvester off the ground to avoid it being swallowed up.
@@FieryPterodactyl The book explains worms are extremely territorial, hence their aggression to humans but especially to other worms.
Vibrations from the shields cause every worm in the region to ignore territorial aggression with other worms and to beeline straight for the source of the shield.
Basically, the entire region around the crawler would be filled with worms for many miles. The Fremen would be just as dead as the harvester.
Never was there any shortage of idle minds among the Harkonnens. The Fremens are fighting a gang of cretins. Poor script. Irritating.
How did the bullets hurt them? The whole point of shield tech is that bullets don’t do anything. That’s why people fight hand to hand. And if they are not wearing shields then why fight them hand to hand, everyone should carry guns.
Can't use shields in the desert. Drives the worms mad.
As the above says, the first film and the book both make it known that to use a shield in the desert is a death sentence as it drives the worms mad. Also, slow enough projectiles and those with their own propellants can get through a shield. Shields are also very expensive and not practical for everyone to use, Fremen can’t afford many in the first place and don’t use them because of the worms while the Harkonnen are just to cheap to outfit their troops with them even out of the desert.
Also, look up what happens when one of those lasguns hits a shield.
The helicopter had a shield because it was in the air, and thus wouldn't agitate the worms
If I remember correctly, gun is obsolete because of shield prevent fast moving object. I assume no one making gun anymore.
They don't have shields, it attracts worms and makes them go berserk.
This fight scene was ridiculous. All the hand-to-hand combat was pointless; they just destroy the crawler with lasguns at the end.
They had to destroy the Ornithopter guarding the rig and eliminate the troops around it as well so that they could use the lasguns.
great they have guns and yet they do not try to create smart bullets that can penetrate the shield. Oh yea smart bullets require computers and computers are banned. Dune is cool but the concept is dumb
Humans living on other planets is also unrealistic, the chances of pressure, atmosphere etc being suitable are very low
the concept is cool for that exact reason lol it requires creative solutions and not just "yeah the bullet is just smart"
Shields will permit slow moving things to penetrate but protect against fast moving objects. Paul and other fighters in Dune are trained to be fast on defense and slow on offense so that their strike will penetrate a shield.
A shield and lasgun creates a feedback loop that is similar to a nuclear blast and obliterates both operators. Consequently, bladed weapons and training are the order of the day.
Why is the girl carrying the bazooka? Gals must be stronger than guys 🤔
😅lol everyone plays his/her role according to their attacking plan,and the bazooka isn’t that heavy
Freemen fighter's are the best their is, the fact the women play such key parts in battles tells u the males know and accept all capable fighting bodies, it's part of what makes em such capable fighter's too.
Well since you obviously have a problem with women let's figure out an answer that's nice and sexist for you. How about maybe she's too weak and stupid to fight so the bazooka is all she's good for? That make you happy?
Or maybe, just maybe, it doesn't matter what gender a person is as anyone can have their own skills and strengths, and she was tasked with firing the bazooka.
try telling her that
Who gives a shit.
Such a lame adaption. If they are using shields, they would have attracted a worm and that Gatling gun would not have been able to shoot w a shield around the thopter.
My guess is the shield turns off every time they shoot just like planes in WW1
Second shields only attract worms if the frequency touch the ground and they are clearly airborne
The shield turns off evertime they fire and worms are not a problem since they are in the air. Worm can't hear or feel the humming of the shields since they're in the air.
This scene was pointless filler.
It's established Paul as a skilled fighter, and because of this success, he gets truly accepted in fremen society.
It's absolutely the opposite of filler.
So edgy, man.
Why dont we have these guns already??
Because cgi is not yet reality.
It's odd they have the lasers, do they really have to have troops on the ground??